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In Kazakhstan, Shymkent, the memorial to the fallen on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War has been desecrated

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Unexpected news came from Kazakhstan that cannot but cause regret. Unknown vandals defiled a memorial in memory of those who fell during the Great Patriotic War, located in the city of Shymkent (Shymkent - kaz.). This is a memorial in honor of the 113 workers of the lead plant who died on WWII fronts. Vandals broke plates on the memorial and desecrated the Eternal Flame. The destruction of the memorial was discovered by relatives of the lead factory workers who fell on the fronts, who came to lay flowers.


The Russian Embassy in Kazakhstan urged local law enforcement to find and punish the perpetrators. From the message of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia:
The Russian Embassy in Astana sent a note to the Kazakh Foreign Ministry with a request to thoroughly investigate the incident and punish those responsible. The Consulate General of Russia in Almaty, in whose consular district is located Shymkent, was instructed to maintain close contact with local authorities in the investigation of this incident. We expect the authorities of Kazakhstan to identify and punish those responsible.


In Kazakhstan, Shymkent, the memorial to the fallen on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War has been desecrated


The situation with the desecration of the memorial to fallen soldiers looks like a clear provocation, the purpose of which may be an attempt to drive a wedge between the Russian and Kazakhstan peoples in modern geopolitical conditions.

For reference: about 400 employees of the Kazakhstan lead industry plant during the war years weapons in the hands of fought on the fronts. For the unprecedented work of those who worked at the plant at the most difficult time for the country, the lead plant in August 1942 won the Red Banner from the People's Commissariat of the Nonferrous Metallurgy and the trade union of workers of the polymetallic industry.
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  1. Elk
    Elk 17 May 2018 18: 13
    +22
    There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.
    1. Vend
      Vend 17 May 2018 18: 26
      +20
      Quote: Elk
      There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

      The first shoots of friendship with the United States.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 May 2018 18: 51
        +12
        Yeah, the dermocracy seeds in our former allied Central Asia striped sow abundantly! There will be seedlings, flowers and berries, if such poisonous flora is not caught in time! Together with seeders and pollinators from islands and from overseas!
        1. MPN
          MPN 17 May 2018 20: 07
          +11
          Quote: rocket757
          Together with seeders and pollinators from islands and from overseas!

          Our whole environment began to swing ..., Armenia, here the Uzbeks went to visit Trump ..., now it will be everywhere ... To the Kazakhs themselves, well, all this will never occur to you, but for money always please ...
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 20: 47
            +5
            Quote: MPN
            To the Kazakhs themselves, well, all this will never occur to you, but for money you are always welcome ...

            https://www.altyn-orda.kz
            read
            1. For example
              For example 17 May 2018 21: 42
              +11
              Quote: Elk
              There are everywhere. But...

              During the time of the USSR, Kazakhs called this city Chimkent. Now these same Kazakhs call this city Shymkent. Either they beat each other's teeth, or is it the ordinary nonsense that they smoke recklessly there.

              All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it. So we devour the fruits of many here praised Stalin. It was they, the Communists, who destroyed the Russian Empire.
              1. helmi8
                helmi8 17 May 2018 23: 08
                +11
                Quote: For example
                All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it.

                Do not distort ... There was a republic within the USSR, and the country was organized by Yeltsin with Shushkevich and Kravchuk in 1991.
              2. I am Russian
                I am Russian 18 May 2018 12: 16
                +4
                All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it. So we devour the fruits of many here praised Stalin. It was they, the Communists, who destroyed the Russian Empire.

                Victim of the exam ?!
            2. Pushkar
              Pushkar 17 May 2018 23: 01
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

              https://www.altyn-orda.kz

              Add something and nothing. Really. Russia has allies - the army and the navy. Vile.
            3. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 17 May 2018 23: 47
              +1
              So yes, the Kazakhs, like others, drift towards nationalism, do not hide it, but why are we drifting, putting a monument to the wrangel in the Crimea?
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 17 May 2018 21: 51
            +2
            Shaw does not occur, you can download there! And here it’s for sure, the local elite should put a paw or something else ... and apply, as we see!
    2. mr.Vain
      mr.Vain 17 May 2018 18: 42
      +7
      Kazakhstan is turning into Ukraine-2, the process has begun,
      1. Polkanov
        Polkanov 17 May 2018 19: 00
        +17
        ... served in SAVO, I know Kazakhstan. There have always been a lot of freaks. Even in Soviet times. Dumb and non-negotiable. The hardest region of our underbelly ...
        1. Fox
          Fox 18 May 2018 07: 45
          +1
          Quote: Polkanov
          Dumb and non-negotiable.

          the farther south, the duller.
    3. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 17 May 2018 19: 00
      +3
      Quote: Elk
      But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

      You said so, as if we were talking about a bad tooth. To treat means or remove the inflamed element.
      1. Elk
        Elk 17 May 2018 20: 02
        +5
        Yes, it seems like an enema is not enough
    4. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 17 May 2018 19: 26
      +4
      There are everywhere.

      in Shymkent there are more of them in percentage terms, more in Kazakhstan, probably only in Kzyl-Orda
    5. Proud.
      Proud. 17 May 2018 19: 30
      +5
      I don’t want to believe. It doesn’t fit my mind ... But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut-off chunk (private opinion).
      1. igor1981
        igor1981 18 May 2018 11: 50
        +1
        Quote: Be proud.
        I don’t want to believe. It doesn’t fit my mind ... But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut-off chunk (private opinion).


        If this is so, then you need to think about returning to Russia (home), some of the northern territories of Kazakhstan, territories - which for some reason were included (given) to the newly created KSSR,
        1. pap
          pap 18 May 2018 21: 53
          +1
          let's try it back
  2. solzh
    solzh 17 May 2018 18: 13
    +2
    I hope the law enforcement agencies find and punish the vandals.
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 17 May 2018 18: 26
      +5
      You, Sergey, are hoping for nothing .... There have already been hundreds of examples of this. I also do not understand why it is impossible to take harsh political and economic measures in this regard. The grimaces of what has come now. And we, the older generation, are completely guilty of what is happening now.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 17 May 2018 21: 12
        +11
        Quote: moskowit
        You, Sergey, are hoping for nothing .... There have already been hundreds of examples of this. I also do not understand why it is impossible to take harsh political and economic measures in this regard. The grimaces of what has come now. And we, the older generation, are completely guilty of what is happening now.

        Yes, actually, our guilt is not here. It must be understood that the same Kazakh people suffered their losses in that war. Of the called Kazakhs, one in three died and the total losses amounted to more than 150 thousand people, which for the people of 6 million was a significant loss. But today, the situation is that, destroying monuments around the world, everyone is fighting targeted with Russia. It is somehow strange that there are no notes of protest from the Foreign Ministry of those republics that were part of the USSR whose soldiers also died on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War. Indeed, on the destroyed graves in Poland or Lithuania there are names not only of the Ivanovs and Petrovs, but also of the same Magomedovs, Bektemirovs, Gakhokidze, Shnipersonov, Petruskausov, etc. Young people fulfilling an order to defile the monument to those killed in the Second World War essentially spit on their dead compatriots. It’s hard for me to understand why the leaders of the former republics of the USSR are loyal to such acts on their territory and how do we influence them politically if they themselves have degraded ethically and morally and encourage vandals? Among the total number of Russians killed on the WWII fronts, 60%, the remaining 40% are representatives of those republics on whose territory monuments are being destroyed.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 17 May 2018 22: 18
          +6
          You wrote it right ... But don't you think the news is bloated? Understand me correctly, I am for what would be to punish such scum. But the monument to the workers of the plant, vryat is the main thing in the city. Shymkent, even in Soviet times, were without a tower. Natsik, still those. But, here and there, here and there on the periphery of the youngster they mock at the monuments ..
          Therefore, phrases like
          Quote: Be proud.
          But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut chunk (private opinion).

          I consider it inappropriate hi
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 17 May 2018 22: 38
            +2
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            You wrote correctly ... But will it not seem to you that the news is bloated? Understand me correctly, I am for what would be to punish such scum. But the monument to the workers of the plant, vryat is the main thing in the city. Shymkent, even in Soviet times, were without a tower. Natsik, still those. But, here and there, here and there on the periphery of the youngster they mock at the monuments ..
            Therefore, phrases such as Quote: Gordey. But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut chunk (private opinion). I consider it inappropriate
            Something like this. Russia will not be able to respond to all such steps in the neighboring republics, since there are tens of thousands of monuments. They mock primarily at their memory. It seems to me that the louder we react, the more actively they use this topic. When establishing such facts, one simply has to limit their trading opportunities. And to the question, why ?. It’s stupid to beat on a cunning erysipelas with the facts that over the past year you have decreased by 5-10-20 monuments, which affects the reduction of quotas in the same percentage ratios. I assure you, all the monuments will be taken under round-the-clock protection. In the meantime, we are shaking the air and trying to inform the former brothers of the union without material and economic losses for them, there will be no sense. By the way, over 25 years, more than 50 thousand settlements disappeared from the register where local monuments with the names and surnames of those who left and did not return, which today are destroyed simply due to lack of proper care, have remained.
  3. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 18: 14
    +8
    In Kazakhstan Shymkent
    it seems like the site is not allowed to write in a foreign language, so why are toponyms not written in Russian? !!!!
    1. Polkanov
      Polkanov 17 May 2018 19: 05
      +5
      ... I agree. Shimkent. Moldova. Belarus. Yakutia, etc ...
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 May 2018 18: 14
    +13
    Kazakhs themselves should be more outrageous than us. It is their ancestors who died and they are worth a monument. Unlike the Ukrainians, they did not fight on the other side.
    1. Borders
      Borders 17 May 2018 23: 49
      0
      "... Unlike the Ukrainians, they did not fight on the other side." I am amazed, by the way, once again (alas, ah!) Of your ignorance .. Have you read anything AT ALL about the so-called Turkestan Legion of the Wehrmacht? Are you not tired of “thrusting” Ukrainians into all the topics?
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 18 May 2018 12: 40
        +1
        Turkestan is a very loose concept .. Kazakhstan is far from a mononational state and the republic of the USSR ... And this unit did not have such traditions as "Galitchina", nor its descendants (since Nazi culture was not practiced in Central Asia and not practice).
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 18 May 2018 13: 48
        +1
        On November 15, 1941, Quartermaster-General OKH E. Wagner issued an order “On the Creation of Guard Hundreds of Prisoners of War of Turkestan and Caucasian Nationalities,” according to which, under the 444th Security Division of the Wehrmacht (operating in the Zaporozhye region and protecting the rear area of ​​the army group "South") was created Turkestan Regiment (Turkestanisches Regiment) under the command of Lieutenant Taube, consisting of four infantry companies under the command of German officers and sergeants (in German service documents held under the name 444th Turk battalion - "Turk-Bataillon 444" ) In the winter of 1941/42, the "Turkestan regiment" carried out security service in Northern Tavria, on the section between the mouth of the Dnieper and Perekop [5] [7].
  5. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 17 May 2018 18: 14
    +9
    I think in Kazakhstan Vandals - they will find quickly and punish revealingly !!! These are not skakuasy and not limitrophy! hi
    Ushlapok, unfortunately, is in all Nations.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 18: 17
      +5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      I think in Kazakhstan Vandals - they will find quickly and punish revealingly !!!

      think so in vain
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 17 May 2018 18: 23
        +12
        In any case, our embassy in Kazakhstan needs to begin to work actively. Stop to sit back.
      2. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 17 May 2018 18: 26
        +11
        Vladimir, Tyumen region - it borders with Kazakhstan, not so rarely - I go there (in Northern Kazakhstan), I know the mood of the people! Believe me, they will find and severely punish !!!
        The Siberian divisions that defended Moscow, including on the territory of Kazakhstan, were formed, the same Panfilovs! hi
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 19: 01
          +2
          Quote: Hunter 2
          people's moods - I know!

          and when the people’s world Cup is here, it’s not people who will search, but cops, but they will be told how to say it
        2. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 17 May 2018 19: 29
          +4
          Believe me, they will find and severely punish !!!

          do not confuse the south of Kazakhstan and the north, in the south everything is decided not by the law but by a wallet. For example, there are no traffic rules there, they go by seniority, who is older is right and well, or who is cooler
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 17 May 2018 21: 52
            +5
            Oh, how wrong you are. Chimkent and Aktyubinsk are cities that will be pulled up to Astana and Alma-Ata in terms of comfort and standard of living.
            And scum will be found and punished. This year, a record number of people went to the Immortal Regiment rally. NAS in Alma-Ata, in the park, pushed 28 panfilov heroes speech, where was the end point of the action. In Almaty last year there were 70 thousand, this year up to 120 thousand ..
            From the Kazakh SSR, 1,2 mil went to the front. Half of them did not return.
            About traffic rules smiled. Times have changed, friend. Everywhere video, etc. - letters of "happiness" quickly lead to feelings. Moreover, the fines were draconian. hi
            1. Bulrumeb
              Bulrumeb 17 May 2018 22: 43
              +1
              Oh, how wrong you are. Chimkent and Aktyubinsk - cities that are in terms of comfort and standard of living

              Kasym, and where does the standard of living? it's about savages. I don’t argue, they are everywhere in Russia too. But wasn’t it such that the lamb's heads burned at the Eternal Flame? Have you ever punished someone for this? Yes, and as requested "for luck," they still ask, or rather require
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 17 May 2018 23: 14
                +5
                Eugene, you write "in the south, everything is decided not by the law, but by the wallet" ...
                KZ - the police state and the wallet sometimes does not solve anything. If there was a note with the Russian Foreign Ministry, then I assure you that ... they will dig the earth with their nose. And first of all they will ask the owner of the abandoned factory and the security - so I have already indicated the first victims to you.
                But actually, our search engines still go to the excavations every year. Sinyavinsky Heights and Nevsky Piglet - ours often work there. This year there were reports from near Stalingrad. You do not have this in the media, but it's a pity. Ours work with yours. hi
                Up to 120 thousand people went to the share of the Immortal Regiment in Alma-Ata. - for 1,5-2 mil. it is very solid. NAS pushed the speech at the final point of the action, arrived special. from Astana. Last year it was 70 thousand ... In Astana, a monument to General Panfilov was unveiled a year or two ago - his daughter was at the opening. In fact, the Kazakh people have a careful attitude to military monuments. Half of those who went to the front did not return. Fortunately, my two grandfathers returned home, at least one of them remained crippled, but lived until almost 100 years old. hi
                1. Bulrumeb
                  Bulrumeb 18 May 2018 06: 51
                  0
                  Dauren, if I didn’t know, I wouldn’t write. I myself was born there, lived, visit almost every year and my wife is from Shymyrs. I know this system from and to. A wallet does not solve only when they get a good kick from a large bassek or when a really big hi-wai, as in this case, when you can’t hush it up. In all other cases, as he decided, decides and will decide. Why and dumped in due time. Nothing in the south is done without money and connections. No offense, honestly, I have never seen anything like this before, so that any place in the public sector, even a simple teacher at school, is for sale.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 18 May 2018 13: 22
                    0
                    Eugene, you better tell us how your cop with billions in the house was taken. Allegedly a sister who works in a bank. Well, what have you not seen there ??? laughing . Honestly, it’s funny - you don’t see logs in your eye, but you notice a mote in someone else’s. hi
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 14: 36
                      0
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Eugene, you better tell how your cop with billions in the house took

                      by Kazakhstan standards, these are mere trifles, given the scandals with the Nazarbayev family
                    2. Bulrumeb
                      Bulrumeb 18 May 2018 16: 04
                      +1
                      That's just about the log does not need a respected, what is happening in southern Kazakhstan to the local cops and never dreamed of, for this I am responsible. General Kulibayev nicknamed tomato as an example. The difference is that they took Zakharchenko by the ass, but there isn’t one, and the dough will be much more like that. So you can rub about a log to those who don’t know, but I know and in a way is much better than you.
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 18 May 2018 18: 58
                        +1
                        2200 criminal cases of corruption at the moment. Sat or sit the prime minister, ministers and governors. You know only Minister Ulyukaev and several governors. hi
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 07: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Kasym
                  KZ - police state

                  RK is not a police state and the police will not hit a finger if there is no shout from above
                  and they will dig only if NAS wants
                  1. Bulrumeb
                    Bulrumeb 18 May 2018 16: 06
                    0
                    he is trying to make a good face, with a bad game.
      3. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 17 May 2018 22: 22
        +4
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        think so in vain

        Why so? Have 100% Old ?? I would like arguments ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 22: 46
          +2
          let's wait and see, but I think I'm right
          By the way, in the year 7, a monument to pilots was defeated in Chimkent, but there is no information that there were no culprits
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 17 May 2018 23: 46
            +3
            I suggest you go down a branch ..
            Quote: Andrey KZ
            what is the territory of the plant now. These are ruins, ruins and a huge mountain of slag. There, people who earn color, die under the collapsed walls, they are searched for for weeks. Absolutely abandoned territory.

            All zilch tongue
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 07: 46
              +1
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              All zilch
              what zilch?
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 10
                +3
                Vladimir hi You are not a stupid person? News zilch ... Blown away wink We ourselves are full of such cases.
                So do not escalate. wink
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 11: 19
                  0
                  Quote: LiSiCyn
                  So do not escalate.

                  what not to escalate?
                  in RK have long been exaggerating that they say the Great Patriotic War to the Kazakhs is by no means
                  By the way, when it blazes, it will be too late to pump, a banderostan to you as an example
                2. Kasym
                  Kasym 18 May 2018 13: 28
                  +1
                  Stas, Hi! Do not argue with this shot - I do not advise. He already excelled here. He is one of our former, but as he himself admitted, there are not even any friends left here. Well, there he was carrying all kinds of nonsense, such as during the events of 86g. children were taken from schools to armored personnel carriers. The nationalist is still one. When there was a crowd of Kazakhstanis - he did not stick his nose out, now he is bold again. We sent him to complete “ignore” - no respect. hi
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 14: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: Kasym
                    Well, there he was carrying all kinds of nonsense, such as during the events of 86g. children were taken from schools to armored personnel carriers

                    but let's not lie, I never wrote this, I wrote that schools guarded armored personnel carriers in 86 from "peaceful" youth
                    Quote: Kasym
                    The nationalist is still one.

                    can you give at least one of my nationalist statements?
                    Quote: Kasym
                    When there was a crowd of Kazakhstanis - he did not stick his nose out, now he is bold again.

                    ? !!!!!
                    What are you and when was this ?!
                  2. LiSiCyn
                    LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 16: 11
                    +4
                    Dauren, salaam alaikum !! hi
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    I wrote that schools guarded armored personnel carriers in 86 from "peaceful" youth

                    What ??? belay
                    Which schools? Numbers, if possible .. Himself at this time, studied wink
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 17: 14
                      +1
                      54 Alma-Ata
                      1. LiSiCyn
                        LiSiCyn 19 May 2018 00: 30
                        +3
                        84th N. Five-Year Plan ...
                        From schools, everyone was driven home. Quiet, smooth surface ... Everything, at the level of rumors and stories of elders.
                        Although, there was an episode ... Let's go with a friend to the boutiques. N. The five-year-old, the private sector, and a birdie comes across to us at a meeting, near a railway school (dorm). He turned, on us unexpectedly. We looked at each other, each other ... I didn’t see such “lights” at that time, half my face ... belay
                        He fled from us ... Faster than we from him laughing
                    2. Kasym
                      Kasym 18 May 2018 19: 12
                      +2
                      Stas, excuse me, went away for a while. You can imagine how to protect the school with armored personnel carriers from the crowd. 54 the school means guarded, and standing next to 120, 56, 21, etc. not.
                      They are more likely to crowd out the crowd with the area than to organize security. He was on the Immortal regiment in Alma-Ata. This is only seen in demonstrations in Soviet times. There were up to 120 thousand people. Just the human sea. NAS in the park 28 panfil. the speech was pushing. The action went from the Old Square to the park. I hope that soon there will be an adequate article - I made a bunch of photos there. Last year it was 70 thousand - so the action is gaining momentum in the Republic of Kazakhstan. hi
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 20: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Kasym
                        54 the school means guarded, and standing next to 120, 56, 21, etc. not.

                        I understand that you personally were near all these schools laughing
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 17 May 2018 18: 18
    +4
    And the virus of sodomism has arrived there am ! Only the Kazakhs themselves must find and feed lead those who made this meanness! In their throats, beat lead plates! !!
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 17 May 2018 18: 24
      +3
      How is it? The massacre of Russians at the beginning of the 20th century became their public holiday.
      1. Polkanov
        Polkanov 17 May 2018 19: 06
        0
        ... the forerunner of the future confrontation ...
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 17 May 2018 20: 59
        +1
        Quote: Dormidont
        The massacre of Russians at the beginning of the 20th century became their public holiday.

        Like Kazakhs? What holiday? Do not confuse anything?
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2018 19: 01
      +1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      And the virus of sodomism has arrived there

      he has been there for a long time
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 17 May 2018 18: 21
    +7
    Eh Kazakhs, Kazakhs, along the foul path follow the horses. After all, an “example” is right before your eyes. wassat
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 17 May 2018 18: 26
      +2
      Sasha, salute! hi
      Quote: Egorovich
      After all, an “example” is right before your eyes.

      That's it. negative
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 17 May 2018 18: 35
        +3
        Pasha, salute hi ! And everywhere, always there is homegrown mra zota.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 17 May 2018 18: 38
          +2
          Where mattresses are marked - do not look for honey ...
          1. Egorovich
            Egorovich 17 May 2018 18: 42
            +3
            Are you right, Pash. Where this vile country is chaos and bedlam.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 17 May 2018 18: 44
              +2
              Quote: Egorovich
              Where this vile country is chaos and bedlam.

              But these tricks are trumpeting about "crap and justice." Ugh, moody hoopoes ... am
              1. Egorovich
                Egorovich 17 May 2018 18: 48
                +2
                In vain we are talking about them, they went ......., you know where. repeat
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 17 May 2018 19: 01
                  +2
                  We will not swear and give pretext for predators to hunt us. wink He who thinks will understand what we are talking about. And we - we understand each other! soldier
  8. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 17 May 2018 18: 22
    +1
    The virus walks throughout the post-Soviet space.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 May 2018 18: 28
      +2
      What is this virus and how to deal with it?
      1. Chicha squad
        Chicha squad 17 May 2018 18: 53
        +1
        Which affects the brain, that memory is lost. Fight only with education, strengthen memory, so to speak.
  9. Dormidont
    Dormidont 17 May 2018 18: 23
    +2
    Latin was only the beginning
  10. bald
    bald 17 May 2018 18: 28
    +2
    In our time, they didn’t give peace to the living, therefore, many of them started off to Russia from there. Now they have taken up the memory. If the head is rotten, then the rest of the organism of decay cannot be avoided.
  11. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 17 May 2018 18: 40
    0
    Kazakhstan has 2 ways - either with Russia, or being in the sixes of China ... the United States will only be watched and abandoned here ...
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 17 May 2018 19: 02
      +1
      No one will ask anything from Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not the SUBJECT of world politics in order to have the right to choose its development, but the OBJECT - others will decide for it ...
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 05
        +4
        Interestingly, people do not live here, have never been and give out such "pearls".
        Ah, today in Astana, documents on the EAEU free trade zone with Iran and China have been signed. At the forum, and not at some summit of the heads of state. This is the level of trust of the first persons of the EAEU countries to the National Academy of Sciences and KZ.
        Tomahawks of Americans will not reach here, before KZ. And without this they do not come together. So dream, "friends," next.
        You tell about the OBJECT Sechin or the heads of Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Rosneft was given all the capacities of our oil pipeline to China (10 million tons a year - without it, Rosneft would not be able to fulfill obligations with Beijing), and two capacities were given all the capacities through our gas pipelines to China (55 billion cubic meters a year - no more in Gazprom’s pipes gas from Central Asia, by the way there is one place on the board of directors of Gazprom zv KZ - in the know or what?).
        Or tell us for the cooperation between Rosatom and Kazatomprom - you do not have the required amount of uranium, and KZ - 1 place in the world in uranium mining and third in reserves.
        Honestly, I didn’t even want to comment, but your arrogance just cuts down. Zero knowledge, and at least be overwhelmed.
  12. impostor
    impostor 17 May 2018 18: 44
    +4
    Here, comrades, not so long ago, pounded their heels on the chest, that switching to the Latin alphabet, transferring the Caspian ports to Amers is nonsense and everything is good there. I would like to hear their comment.
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 17 May 2018 18: 59
      +3
      It would be possible to reproach the Kazakhs for this, if not for the NATO base in Ulyanovsk ....
      1. alekc75
        alekc75 17 May 2018 19: 09
        +2
        drunk in the morning ?? - no bases in Ulyanovsk !!!
      2. impostor
        impostor 17 May 2018 19: 11
        +3
        Yes, there is something to blame, but in 2015 the Ulyanovsk transit is closed
      3. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 17 May 2018 19: 30
        +2
        you remind me of one misery from the portal of films .... also so persecuted, likes a lot of accounts and constantly pretends to be a woman ... likes to lie the same way, and drove his gender there
  13. already a Muscovite
    already a Muscovite 17 May 2018 18: 53
    +2
    It is useless ... Everywhere in the comments under this news, the Kazakhs are cast out and "swear by their mother" that the Russian Natsik chauvinists did it ... So the guilty parties have already been identified ...
  14. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 17 May 2018 18: 58
    +1
    Quote: Elk
    There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

    The "independent" generation has grown .... It will be worse even further - it will soon become the majority ....
  15. gorenina91
    gorenina91 17 May 2018 19: 12
    +6
    - In vain the site optimists hope in Kazakhstan’s law enforcement agencies ... Indeed, only ethnic Kazakhs (99,9%) work (serve) in these law enforcement agencies ... -And they are unlikely to catch and punish "their Kazakhs". .. -and the act of vandalism, most likely ... -the "locals" committed the same local residents ... -Well, not the "dill" came to Kazakhstan for this desecration ...
    -With Kazakhstan, everything is very, very complicated ... -and rainbow optimism is not appropriate here ... -Let's come to the point ...- if there is any opposition in Kazakhstan ...- then again ... -It consists only of Kazakhs ... -But after all, there are still quite a lot of ethnic Russians there ... -but they are even afraid to utter a laugh there ...
    - By the way ... -Because even in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia ethnic Russians organize some kind of protest movements, marches, publicly speak out for their rights ...- before TV, before correspondents, in the press ...
    -And in Kazakhstan ...- everything is dull ... like in a tank ... -the Russians are simply silent there ... -they really really fear for their lives and the lives of their children ... -that's the thing ...
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 10
      +2
      But in Kazakhstan there is the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan and the Russian community of Kazakhstan, which is part of it. Go to the site and everything will become clear if you know how to read.
      There is no strong opposition here ....
      Irina, well, your knowledge of the Republic of Kazakhstan is simply zero, why comment at all - ask at least our Russians on the site.
      I wish you success in this field. hi
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 18 May 2018 03: 23
        0
        -And you already "succeeded" in everything ...
  16. Andrey KZ
    Andrey KZ 17 May 2018 19: 43
    +8
    The Shimkent Akimat commented on the incident with the memorial to the participants of the Second World War, who was defeated by vandals, Tengrinews.kz reports. Unknown people damaged the memorial, erected in memory of the front-line soldiers - employees of the lead plant. "The situation that happened with the monument to the lead soldiers who fought in the Great Patriotic War cannot leave anyone indifferent. Once this monument was erected on the initiative of the company's employees. At that time it was the only monument on which the names of those who left the factory were carved and didn’t return. However, over time, the territory in which it is located was transferred to a private trader, and afterwards it was mortgaged into a bank, "the city akimat explained. “At one time, the akimat suggested that the initiative group move the monument to the territory of the fifth school, but this idea did not find support. Now, the akimat has no right to restore or transfer property belonging to third parties,” the local executive body concluded. It is noted that the names of all 400 lead people who went to the front are not forgotten and can be found on the slabs of the Glory Memorial, which is located in the city park of Abay.
    I’ll add on my own, the situation with the monument also depresses me, but for the sake of justice I must explain what the territory of the plant is now. These are ruins, ruins and a huge mountain of slag. There, people who earn color, perish under the collapsed walls, they have been looking for them for weeks. Absolutely abandoned territory.
    1. Slon_on
      Slon_on 17 May 2018 20: 01
      +1
      It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned, attempts by local authorities to change the situation are futile. The blame lies not only with the vandals, but also with those who allowed this
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 17 May 2018 20: 08
        +5
        It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned.
        Not certainly in that way . The monument is located on the territory of the plant, and the plant is privately owned. Yes, and this can not be called a plant anymore, it’s a pity, I worked at that plant for a while.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 17 May 2018 22: 39
          +7
          Quote: Andrey KZ
          It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned,

          Everything, the end of the sensation belay
          And in the tape, “beat the Kazakhs” is already rushing ... They, also go to the Latin alphabet am
          And the fact that most of you and the Cyrillic alphabet did not understand them lol , so it doesn’t matter ... Around are only enemies and traitors.
          People wake up ... There is a roll, someone deliberately inflates the topic. stop
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 07: 59
            +1
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Everything, the end of the sensation

            what does the sensation have to do with it?
            in tm that you did not even bother to study the topic?
            the monument is not privately owned, but on land which is private property

            "In response to the atrocities of unknown intruders, local authorities reported that the memorial is in private territory and may be dismantled."
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 25
              +4
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              what does the sensation have to do with it?
              in tm that you did not even bother to study the topic?

              Vladimir, you start to disappoint me negative
              Theme, sucked out of a finger ... Abandoned factory, abandoned monument. It is necessary here, in Russia, to restore everything the same, and then indicate to the neighbors. You about dancing, etc. at the Eternal Flame, to remind ??
          2. pap
            pap 18 May 2018 22: 21
            +1
            You still forgot to indicate about American bases in the Caspian and about transit. Which by the way and through the territory of Russia passes.
  17. NF68
    NF68 17 May 2018 20: 10
    +1
    The territory of the plant where this monument is abandoned. Witnesses may not be found. the hope is that someone will blab out somewhere and still find the culprits.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 13
      +2
      hi In the offices for the delivery of recycled goods and color. metals. hi
      1. NF68
        NF68 19 May 2018 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: Kasym
        hi In the offices for the delivery of recycled goods and color. metals. hi


        And that could also be.
  18. dvv1951
    dvv1951 17 May 2018 20: 15
    +5
    Apparently a dream does not come to someone.
    -
    In our city, the tread is heard at night -
    Apparently a dream does not come to someone.
    I did not believe until I saw everything myself
    On a dawn gloomy morning.

    A concrete soldier was walking, returning,
    To climb the square of the pedestal.
    Through his tears he cast his lost glance
    On the realities of the new world.

    To the fascist signs of hanging banners
    To the crosses along the big fence
    To the familiar symbols of our times
    And he cried, bent over from grief.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 17 May 2018 20: 24
    +2
    I know one oil worker from Kazakhstan. He lived in Kazakhstan for a long time and knows the language very well. So the bus rides through the city and drives past the construction of a hefty shopping complex, the Chinese are building it as it should. The whole bus instantly starts to whisper, they say, they give work, although not one of those sitting on the bus will go to work at a construction site.
    This is such a small touch to the mentality .........................
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 15
      +3
      Well, I built two houses with my own hands, I don’t remember how many repairs I did. He even repaired the entrance of his house with his own hands. Although I have a completely different specialty. Why write this nonsense - you have so little at the construction sites of Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Tajiks ?!
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 18 May 2018 23: 04
        0
        Quote: Kasym
        Well, I built two houses with my own hands, I don’t remember how many repairs I did. He even repaired the entrance of his house with his own hands. Although I have a completely different specialty. Why write this nonsense - you have so little at the construction sites of Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Tajiks ?!

        Have you seen many Kazakhs at a construction site in Russia? And I have a sister after a guy from Semipalatinsk, they rushed to Murmansk, I can share
  20. garnik
    garnik 17 May 2018 20: 33
    +4
    In every nation there are ub.lyudki. About 3 to 4 years ago, at one of the cemeteries in Krasnodar, about 70 (Russian, according to neighbors who have buried there.) Monuments were littered or desecrated.

    In general, Kazakhstan will be on the side on which Turkey is located. Nazarbayev does not hide his dream of uniting the Turks, and if we are together with the Turks, then everything is through.
    1. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa 17 May 2018 21: 45
      +2
      In cemeteries, mainly teenage Satanic sects are mainly engaged in this. We used to catch these, and ambushed them at night.
      1. garnik
        garnik 17 May 2018 22: 01
        +4
        So in Kazakhstan, unusual youth scoffed at the monument. Just articles often appear on VO provocative. At least the allies were not convicted loudly in misunderstandings, but it can be quietly and effectively.
    2. Kasym
      Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 20
      +2
      Or maybe the Turks will be on the side where NAS points. He has already reconciled Turks and Russians ... By the way, in Turkey, the ANAS has "frantic" support among the local population. hi
      1. Borders
        Borders 17 May 2018 23: 51
        +2
        he did not reconcile, but bred (deceived) Russia, because, as it turned out, Perdogash did not bring any apology. And the text itself was translated by this NAS ... Yeah
  21. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 May 2018 20: 36
    +3
    Do we have vandals? Part of the people oskotinivaetsya part of the beasts, regardless of geography.
  22. Grandfather Makar
    Grandfather Makar 17 May 2018 20: 47
    +4
    Kazakhstan has long been alarming ..... Toli still awaits us all!
  23. Navy7981
    Navy7981 17 May 2018 21: 06
    0
    When the strength of the strong passes, the strength of the weak comes, and then just hold on that they will "be strange."
  24. tracer
    tracer 17 May 2018 21: 12
    0
    Began...
  25. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 17 May 2018 21: 28
    +1
    Quote: alekc75
    drunk in the morning ?? - no bases in Ulyanovsk !!!

    Well, the Caspian is not NATO bases! wink
  26. Dedall
    Dedall 17 May 2018 21: 28
    +1
    Oh, and there was also a good brewery once.
    And the country was huge, and now only fragments remained from it and they strive to prick at the heel.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 17 May 2018 22: 16
      +2
      The level of GDP of the Kazakh SSR was overcome in the past decade. hi
  27. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 17 May 2018 21: 43
    +1
    Ordinary fascism.
  28. brr1
    brr1 17 May 2018 22: 24
    +2
    Sheshenamynsky scum
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 48
      +3
      Ah ha ... cunning wink
      Quote: brr1
      sheshenaminsky

      Totally agree good
  29. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 May 2018 22: 24
    +3
    Something I do not read the cries that usually accompany news of this nature from Ukraine. Let's start "... Kazakh Bandera, brown plague, Chekmen junta ... Where is the usual vocabulary ?!
    1. brr1
      brr1 17 May 2018 22: 52
      +8
      In fact, if you count the number of such cases in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan, I think the Russian Federation has gone far ahead, even in percentage terms. For example, in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika. So it’s better not to tear the farts, otherwise in return they will throw links to such cases in the Russian Federation unmeasured.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 00: 09
        +6
        At last good
        There are people in their right mind on the site hi
        Quote: brr1
        Today, 22: 52
        In fact, if you count the number of such cases in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan, I think the Russian Federation has gone far ahead even in a percentage ratio

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Something I do not read the screams that usually accompany news of this nature from Ukraine.

        This, upstream, there are a lot of them wink
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 08: 03
        +1
        Quote: brr1
        in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika.

        Do you see a gopher?
        by the way, a shaved head is not the only sign of the Nazis
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 40
          +5
          Vladimir, honestly, have offended you, Kazakhs ?? You, Th "horn" rested ?? Everyone has already chewed ... But you, your 5 cents, how not to stick wink
          So what do you have negative connected with Kazakhstan ??? Share ... laughing
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 46
            +3
            Vladimir, so are you a ?? Koenig ?? To the region from Kazakhstan ?? Where from?
            Me, the lack of a flag confused ...
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 16: 18
              +3
              I see that they read ... But there is no answer request Encrypted ??? Do not be afraid, I will not come without an invitation wink
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 17: 17
                0
                what did you read? !!!
                but as for encryption, I’ve already uploaded twenty times the full home address
                Pravdinsky district, Hasty farm
                when I read it and answered
              2. pap
                pap 18 May 2018 22: 28
                +1
                In his childhood, Kazakh children took away toys-offended
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 23: 40
                  0
                  Think a smart thing they said?
                  deeply mistaken
                  in childhood, by the way, this didn’t occur to anyone to say that you are not Kazakh, therefore, do not blather
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 17: 16
            +1
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            So what do you have negative connected with Kazakhstan ??? Share ...

            I'm sorry you yourself come from, where were you born?
            but about the negative, they tell you that you are no one just because it’s not the title is it negative or not?
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 21: 36
              +3
              Vladimir hi
              From Alma-Ata. N. The Five-Year Plan, Dr. Shugla, Sairan. In the area since the 98th.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              about the negative, they tell you that you are no one just because it’s not the title is it negative or not?

              I agree, this is negative yes
              But at the same time, when the aul people speak to your friend ("titular"), step aside, and we’ll talk to this Russian. To which, he replies negatively and says that "this" Russian, his brother ... But, they are hell Mambetan ... This is positive good
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 21: 57
                +2
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                To which, he replies in the negative and says that “this” Russian is his brother.

                I don’t argue, they fought back to back, but the problem is that now mamba is in power and they are becoming more and more left Almaty in the year 9
                By the way, Abay-Sofy had been almost neighbors for the last 18 years, and before that, Gogol-Furmanov was in Moscow
  30. Shooting
    Shooting 17 May 2018 22: 25
    +1
    All these are excuses from the local administration about the private owner, on whose territory the monument is now, and the inability to influence this. This situation indicates the lack of power in this city in the correct sense of the concept of city administration. If the administration of what she wants through "corpses goes", but gets her way. So bad wants. This is all sad.
  31. Sarcasm
    Sarcasm 17 May 2018 22: 31
    +1
    Vandalism is a crime. On relations between the states of Russia 370 euros average salary Kazakhstan 441 euros what can we teach them? How to live poorer?
  32. Visa Witness
    Visa Witness 18 May 2018 00: 17
    0
    In Kazakhstan, almost 40% are Russians. So what needs to be more careful there
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 08: 04
      0
      has long been closer to 20
  33. seacap
    seacap 18 May 2018 00: 37
    +3
    Well, they waited, and it did not begin today. Russians were smoked there from the very beginning, quietly and persistently, just like the non-brothers. Schools also took up the language. Again we will be surprised and shrug, and diplomats and specialists mumble and justify their inaction and failure to broadcast something about non-intervention and sovereignty. It’s better to tell our overseas partners about this, it seems they don’t know anything about it, and we are all enlightened many times over. Again, the army will puff, and if everyone serves, then who will work and support the army, political strategists and effective managers, or maybe Oxford graduates, or maybe our so-called artistic rainbow garbage-beau monde, I doubt something. This is to what extent inactivity and disregard for their country, how to despise and hate it in order to abandon their territories and people without a fight and protection, just like that, give to the enemy. And after that they, these political pygmies still dare to talk about kings and councils, about Stalin, to compare the results of everyone’s rule and everything falls into place, shows who is great and loved, and who is unworthy and despised by his people.
    1. brr1
      brr1 18 May 2018 07: 46
      +2
      And what is the connection between all this?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 11: 52
        +3
        The person has accumulated, decided to throw out. The beginning of the topic, the rest is about their own.
  34. Ksr82
    Ksr82 18 May 2018 01: 53
    0
    Success in foreign policy, say?) Well, well)
  35. odometer
    odometer 18 May 2018 03: 57
    +5
    The insanity of most “commentators” and how few sound judgments are simply amazing. The act of vandalism, committed trivially for the purpose of profit, is presented in the article strictly as "an obvious provocation" and "an attempt to drive a wedge." Well, open your eyes and ears ... An attempt to drive a wedge - these are articles like this and which appear with enviable regularity, and these attempts are successful, judging by the comments.
  36. brr1
    brr1 18 May 2018 08: 22
    +2
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Quote: brr1
    in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika.

    Do you see a gopher?
    by the way, a shaved head is not the only sign of the Nazis

    A very superficial perception of my words, although in general it’s hard to expect another from people brought up on films like DMB. The attitude of people to this problem in different countries leads to the outward manifestation of these problems. And in Russia, they hate more of their own citizens from the Caucasus than the Nazis, for example. And so they rejoice when some fascists slaughter somewhere in a crowd of a pale person. And if the opposite happens, everyone howls that the black-asses are beating our pale-faced (and not a fascist at all, but a Russian patriot)
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 May 2018 11: 20
      0
      Quote: brr1
      And so they rejoice when some fascists beat somewhere in a crowd of non-pale

      are you happy
      I do not, therefore leave, by the way, is not for you to judge what I was brought up
  37. seacap
    seacap 18 May 2018 10: 32
    +2
    Quote: curvimeter
    The act of vandalism, committed trivially for the purpose of profit, is presented in the article strictly as "an obvious provocation" and "an attempt to drive a wedge."

    Sorry, but I can tell you on what basis I draw my conclusions, of course, not having all the information, I could be wrong, but the facts are as follows. In my city there are already whole areas of former residents from Kazakhstan, many acquaintances and neighbors, all of them already have Russian citizenship and have full-fledged work in various fields. Moreover, they have been leaving and leaving since the 90s, they all held leading and profitable positions requiring high vocational training and education, all were dismissed in the early 90s under various pretexts, but for one reason that they are not representatives of the titular nation. Unbearable conditions were created in everyday life, and everyday Russophobia was cultivated and encouraged by the authorities, and Russian schools were closed, and the use of the Russian language was limited, etc. etc. And all this in the northern regions, which had never belonged to Kazakhstan before, where there were 10-15% of Kazakhs. He even moved the capital to the north to areas that were not suitable for life, only because he "staked out" these ancient and primordially Russian areas, and these are cosmodromes, training grounds, spacecraft landing sites and so on, much more. Indulgence of khans and bahas will not lead to good and will not lead, history has more than once already taught a lesson on this subject, like serfs-farm laborers from the outskirts, and khans have already been sold and betrayed, not in vain the kings and emperors, and they kept advice they were on a short leash and did not stand on ceremony to restore order and explain who is who. And all these blah blah blah of our politicians, covering up their helplessness and bankruptcy, have led and will lead to sad consequences like those with the non-brothers and the Caucasus. You cannot learn from the enemy yourself, you cannot and do not want to learn, you cannot defend your original interests and territories by wiping your snot with a broken nosyrbum and cheekbones further, there’s something about international law and a similar heresy about which our overseas partners do not even suspect, it means that your number 2 is at home, your relatives will use your distant neighbor, and it’s your business to remain silent and pay for their whole holiday of life. It’s rude, but the reality is today.
  38. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 18 May 2018 11: 47
    0
    Nazarbayev workers practice yards of the main dictator of Central Asia, thawed out in the USA.
    More will be more fun.
    Apparently again, as after the collapse of the USSR, pogroms began, Nazarbayev scumbags would drive the Russians out of their apartments, wring out business. Again, as blood spills in the 90s.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 18 May 2018 12: 40
      +4
      What are you talking about? stop What pogroms? Come on facts?
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      Again, as blood spills in the 90s.

      Personally shed blood?
  39. odometer
    odometer 18 May 2018 11: 50
    +5
    Quote: seacap
    Unbearable conditions were created in everyday life, and everyday Russophobia was cultivated and encouraged by the authorities, and Russian schools were closed, and the use of the Russian language was limited, etc. and so on

    I don’t know for what purpose your many acquaintances and neighbors are spreading such misinformation, I can only speculate ... Domestic nationalism has always existed everywhere - “in a family is not without a freak.” Regarding restrictions on the use of the language: Russian, to one degree or another , is owned by most residents of Kazakhstan, when broadcasting programs, programs or films in the Kazakh language, they include Russian subtitles and vice versa, I mean national television channels, in everyday life there are no problems with the language, state structures (Kazakh) are required to be used in government institutions and Russian, as the language of interethnic communication, the slightest distortions in language policy, which are trying to initiate excessively zealous fools, are being cut short.
    Quote: seacap
    these are ancient and primordially Russian regions, and these are cosmodromes, landfills, landing sites for spacecraft, etc.

    Look at the map, where are all the listed objects? It’s difficult to call genuine Russian, and even more so since ancient times. I’m not a fan of hymns or swearing ... I’m for objectivity in information, being on the Web, I think you can get more or less believable by filtering from “husks”. The working methods of the media have long been known, and when will a handful of voiced coin be dumped for this ... But does someone order this "music"?
  40. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 18 May 2018 16: 41
    +1
    Quote: Polkanov
    I know Kazakhstan. There have always been a lot of freaks. Even in Soviet times.

    Not true. Normal people.
  41. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 18 May 2018 19: 05
    +1
    Here, even without a note from our embassy, ​​Kazakhstanis can and must certainly tear their heads off to provocateurs. Otherwise, their law enforcement bodies and the words of various akims are worthless (right up to the brightest !!!).
  42. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 18 May 2018 20: 44
    +1
    Kasym,
    and what does it prove? once again I say the place of a teacher in a secondary school is sold to you, and not to us, extorted everywhere and everywhere from you, starting with crossing the border and going-and-go, they press everyone who can and where it can and there is no need to prove that it is not So.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 18 May 2018 21: 28
      0
      Quote: Bulrumeb
      extort everywhere and everywhere

      This is an old Central Asian tradition. yes
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 19 May 2018 10: 54
        0
        and then, just do not want to recognize the obvious)))
  43. brr1
    brr1 19 May 2018 00: 50
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    what did you read? !!!
    but as for encryption, I’ve already uploaded twenty times the full home address
    Pravdinsky district, Hasty farm
    when I read it and answered

    Elusive joe
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 May 2018 08: 00
      0
      Quote: brr1
      Elusive joe
      what is this for?
      1. brr1
        brr1 19 May 2018 15: 35
        0
        I remembered a joke
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 May 2018 15: 36
          0
          Apparently you are all off topic
          1. brr1
            brr1 19 May 2018 15: 50
            0
            Generally not the topic. Just remembered
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 May 2018 16: 38
              0
              in the garden of buina
  44. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 19 May 2018 08: 05
    0
    Quote: LiSiCyn
    84th N. Five-Year Plan ...
    From schools, everyone was driven home. Quiet, smooth surface ... Everything, at the level of rumors and stories of elders.
    Although, there was an episode ... Let's go with a friend to the boutiques. N. The five-year-old, the private sector, and a birdie comes across to us at a meeting, near a railway school (dorm). He turned, on us unexpectedly. We looked at each other, each other ... I didn’t see such “lights” at that time, half my face ...
    He fled from us ... Faster than we from him

    our lessons were not canceled, when the crowd approached the director closed all the doors and 10-15 minutes later the armored personnel carrier drove up, stood on the western part of the Gorky-Furman intersection, the crowd smashed all the stained-glass windows in the station wagon, turned over the trays and went up the wagon
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