In Kazakhstan, Shymkent, the memorial to the fallen on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War has been desecrated

Unexpected news came from Kazakhstan that cannot but cause regret. Unknown vandals defiled a memorial in memory of those who fell during the Great Patriotic War, located in the city of Shymkent (Shymkent - kaz.). This is a memorial in honor of the 113 workers of the lead plant who died on WWII fronts. Vandals broke plates on the memorial and desecrated the Eternal Flame. The destruction of the memorial was discovered by relatives of the lead factory workers who fell on the fronts, who came to lay flowers.

The Russian Embassy in Kazakhstan urged local law enforcement to find and punish the perpetrators. From the message of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia:

The Russian Embassy in Astana sent a note to the Kazakh Foreign Ministry with a request to thoroughly investigate the incident and punish those responsible. The Consulate General of Russia in Almaty, in whose consular district is located Shymkent, was instructed to maintain close contact with local authorities in the investigation of this incident. We expect the authorities of Kazakhstan to identify and punish those responsible.

The situation with the desecration of the memorial to fallen soldiers looks like a clear provocation, the purpose of which may be an attempt to drive a wedge between the Russian and Kazakhstan peoples in modern geopolitical conditions.

For reference: about 400 employees of the Kazakhstan lead industry plant during the war years weapons in the hands of fought on the fronts. For the unprecedented work of those who worked at the plant at the most difficult time for the country, the lead plant in August 1942 won the Red Banner from the People's Commissariat of the Nonferrous Metallurgy and the trade union of workers of the polymetallic industry.

Comments

[Elk]

There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

[Vend]

Quote: Elk

There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

The first shoots of friendship with the United States.

[rocket757]

Yeah, the dermocracy seeds in our former allied Central Asia striped sow abundantly! There will be seedlings, flowers and berries, if such poisonous flora is not caught in time! Together with seeders and pollinators from islands and from overseas!

[MPN]

Quote: rocket757

Together with seeders and pollinators from islands and from overseas!

Our whole environment began to swing ..., Armenia, here the Uzbeks went to visit Trump ..., now it will be everywhere ... To the Kazakhs themselves, well, all this will never occur to you, but for money always please ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: MPN

To the Kazakhs themselves, well, all this will never occur to you, but for money you are always welcome ...

https://www.altyn-orda.kz
read

[For example]

Quote: Elk

There are everywhere. But...

During the time of the USSR, Kazakhs called this city Chimkent. Now these same Kazakhs call this city Shymkent. Either they beat each other's teeth, or is it the ordinary nonsense that they smoke recklessly there.

All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it. So we devour the fruits of many here praised Stalin. It was they, the Communists, who destroyed the Russian Empire.

[helmi8]

Quote: For example

All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it.

Do not distort ... There was a republic within the USSR, and the country was organized by Yeltsin with Shushkevich and Kravchuk in 1991.

[I am Russian]

All from the fact that there has never been such a Kazakhstan in the history of the country. Stalin and his communist codle invented it. So we devour the fruits of many here praised Stalin. It was they, the Communists, who destroyed the Russian Empire.

Victim of the exam ?!

[Pushkar]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

https://www.altyn-orda.kz

Add something and nothing. Really. Russia has allies - the army and the navy. Vile.

[Ivan Ivanov]

So yes, the Kazakhs, like others, drift towards nationalism, do not hide it, but why are we drifting, putting a monument to the wrangel in the Crimea?

[rocket757]

Shaw does not occur, you can download there! And here it’s for sure, the local elite should put a paw or something else ... and apply, as we see!

[mr.Vain]

Kazakhstan is turning into Ukraine-2, the process has begun,

[Polkanov]

... served in SAVO, I know Kazakhstan. There have always been a lot of freaks. Even in Soviet times. Dumb and non-negotiable. The hardest region of our underbelly ...

[Fox]

Quote: Polkanov

Dumb and non-negotiable.

the farther south, the duller.

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Elk

But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

You said so, as if we were talking about a bad tooth. To treat means or remove the inflamed element.

[Elk]

Yes, it seems like an enema is not enough

[Bulrumeb]

There are everywhere.

in Shymkent there are more of them in percentage terms, more in Kazakhstan, probably only in Kzyl-Orda

[Proud.]

I don’t want to believe. It doesn’t fit my mind ... But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut-off chunk (private opinion).

[igor1981]

Quote: Be proud.

I don’t want to believe. It doesn’t fit my mind ... But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut-off chunk (private opinion).

If this is so, then you need to think about returning to Russia (home), some of the northern territories of Kazakhstan, territories - which for some reason were included (given) to the newly created KSSR,

[dad]

let's try it back

[solzh]

I hope the law enforcement agencies find and punish the vandals.

[moskowit]

You, Sergey, are hoping for nothing .... There have already been hundreds of examples of this. I also do not understand why it is impossible to take harsh political and economic measures in this regard. The grimaces of what has come now. And we, the older generation, are completely guilty of what is happening now.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: moskowit

You, Sergey, are hoping for nothing .... There have already been hundreds of examples of this. I also do not understand why it is impossible to take harsh political and economic measures in this regard. The grimaces of what has come now. And we, the older generation, are completely guilty of what is happening now.

Yes, actually, our guilt is not here. It must be understood that the same Kazakh people suffered their losses in that war. Of the called Kazakhs, one in three died and the total losses amounted to more than 150 thousand people, which for the people of 6 million was a significant loss. But today, the situation is that, destroying monuments around the world, everyone is fighting targeted with Russia. It is somehow strange that there are no notes of protest from the Foreign Ministry of those republics that were part of the USSR whose soldiers also died on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War. Indeed, on the destroyed graves in Poland or Lithuania there are names not only of the Ivanovs and Petrovs, but also of the same Magomedovs, Bektemirovs, Gakhokidze, Shnipersonov, Petruskausov, etc. Young people fulfilling an order to defile the monument to those killed in the Second World War essentially spit on their dead compatriots. It’s hard for me to understand why the leaders of the former republics of the USSR are loyal to such acts on their territory and how do we influence them politically if they themselves have degraded ethically and morally and encourage vandals? Among the total number of Russians killed on the WWII fronts, 60%, the remaining 40% are representatives of those republics on whose territory monuments are being destroyed.

[LiSiCyn]

You wrote it right ... But don't you think the news is bloated? Understand me correctly, I am for what would be to punish such scum. But the monument to the workers of the plant, vryat is the main thing in the city. Shymkent, even in Soviet times, were without a tower. Natsik, still those. But, here and there, here and there on the periphery of the youngster they mock at the monuments ..
Therefore, phrases like

Quote: Be proud.

But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut chunk (private opinion).

I consider it inappropriate

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: LiSiCyn

You wrote correctly ... But will it not seem to you that the news is bloated? Understand me correctly, I am for what would be to punish such scum. But the monument to the workers of the plant, vryat is the main thing in the city. Shymkent, even in Soviet times, were without a tower. Natsik, still those. But, here and there, here and there on the periphery of the youngster they mock at the monuments ..
Therefore, phrases such as Quote: Gordey. But most likely, Kazakhstan is a cut chunk (private opinion). I consider it inappropriate

Something like this. Russia will not be able to respond to all such steps in the neighboring republics, since there are tens of thousands of monuments. They mock primarily at their memory. It seems to me that the louder we react, the more actively they use this topic. When establishing such facts, one simply has to limit their trading opportunities. And to the question, why ?. It’s stupid to beat on a cunning erysipelas with the facts that over the past year you have decreased by 5-10-20 monuments, which affects the reduction of quotas in the same percentage ratios. I assure you, all the monuments will be taken under round-the-clock protection. In the meantime, we are shaking the air and trying to inform the former brothers of the union without material and economic losses for them, there will be no sense. By the way, over 25 years, more than 50 thousand settlements disappeared from the register where local monuments with the names and surnames of those who left and did not return, which today are destroyed simply due to lack of proper care, have remained.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

In Kazakhstan Shymkent

it seems like the site is not allowed to write in a foreign language, so why are toponyms not written in Russian? !!!!

[Polkanov]

... I agree. Shimkent. Moldova. Belarus. Yakutia, etc ...

[Zaurbek]

Kazakhs themselves should be more outrageous than us. It is their ancestors who died and they are worth a monument. Unlike the Ukrainians, they did not fight on the other side.

[Borders]

"... Unlike the Ukrainians, they did not fight on the other side." I am amazed, by the way, once again (alas, ah!) Of your ignorance .. Have you read anything AT ALL about the so-called Turkestan Legion of the Wehrmacht? Are you not tired of “thrusting” Ukrainians into all the topics?

[Zaurbek]

Turkestan is a very loose concept .. Kazakhstan is far from a mononational state and the republic of the USSR ... And this unit did not have such traditions as "Galitchina", nor its descendants (since Nazi culture was not practiced in Central Asia and not practice).

[Zaurbek]

On November 15, 1941, Quartermaster-General OKH E. Wagner issued an order “On the Creation of Guard Hundreds of Prisoners of War of Turkestan and Caucasian Nationalities,” according to which, under the 444th Security Division of the Wehrmacht (operating in the Zaporozhye region and protecting the rear area of ​​the army group "South") was created Turkestan Regiment (Turkestanisches Regiment) under the command of Lieutenant Taube, consisting of four infantry companies under the command of German officers and sergeants (in German service documents held under the name 444th Turk battalion - "Turk-Bataillon 444" ) In the winter of 1941/42, the "Turkestan regiment" carried out security service in Northern Tavria, on the section between the mouth of the Dnieper and Perekop [5] [7].

[Hunter 2]

I think in Kazakhstan Vandals - they will find quickly and punish revealingly !!! These are not skakuasy and not limitrophy!
Ushlapok, unfortunately, is in all Nations.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hunter 2

I think in Kazakhstan Vandals - they will find quickly and punish revealingly !!!

think so in vain

[Terenin]

In any case, our embassy in Kazakhstan needs to begin to work actively. Stop to sit back.

[Hunter 2]

Vladimir, Tyumen region - it borders with Kazakhstan, not so rarely - I go there (in Northern Kazakhstan), I know the mood of the people! Believe me, they will find and severely punish !!!
The Siberian divisions that defended Moscow, including on the territory of Kazakhstan, were formed, the same Panfilovs!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hunter 2

people's moods - I know!

and when the people’s world Cup is here, it’s not people who will search, but cops, but they will be told how to say it

[Bulrumeb]

Believe me, they will find and severely punish !!!

do not confuse the south of Kazakhstan and the north, in the south everything is decided not by the law but by a wallet. For example, there are no traffic rules there, they go by seniority, who is older is right and well, or who is cooler

[Kasym]

Oh, how wrong you are. Chimkent and Aktyubinsk are cities that will be pulled up to Astana and Alma-Ata in terms of comfort and standard of living.
And scum will be found and punished. This year, a record number of people went to the Immortal Regiment rally. NAS in Alma-Ata, in the park, pushed 28 panfilov heroes speech, where was the end point of the action. In Almaty last year there were 70 thousand, this year up to 120 thousand ..
From the Kazakh SSR, 1,2 mil went to the front. Half of them did not return.
About traffic rules smiled. Times have changed, friend. Everywhere video, etc. - letters of "happiness" quickly lead to feelings. Moreover, the fines were draconian.

[Bulrumeb]

Oh, how wrong you are. Chimkent and Aktyubinsk - cities that are in terms of comfort and standard of living

Kasym, and where does the standard of living? it's about savages. I don’t argue, they are everywhere in Russia too. But wasn’t it such that the lamb's heads burned at the Eternal Flame? Have you ever punished someone for this? Yes, and as requested "for luck," they still ask, or rather require

[Kasym]

Eugene, you write "in the south, everything is decided not by the law, but by the wallet" ...
KZ - the police state and the wallet sometimes does not solve anything. If there was a note with the Russian Foreign Ministry, then I assure you that ... they will dig the earth with their nose. And first of all they will ask the owner of the abandoned factory and the security - so I have already indicated the first victims to you.
But actually, our search engines still go to the excavations every year. Sinyavinsky Heights and Nevsky Piglet - ours often work there. This year there were reports from near Stalingrad. You do not have this in the media, but it's a pity. Ours work with yours.
Up to 120 thousand people went to the share of the Immortal Regiment in Alma-Ata. - for 1,5-2 mil. it is very solid. NAS pushed the speech at the final point of the action, arrived special. from Astana. Last year it was 70 thousand ... In Astana, a monument to General Panfilov was unveiled a year or two ago - his daughter was at the opening. In fact, the Kazakh people have a careful attitude to military monuments. Half of those who went to the front did not return. Fortunately, my two grandfathers returned home, at least one of them remained crippled, but lived until almost 100 years old.

[Bulrumeb]

Dauren, if I didn’t know, I wouldn’t write. I myself was born there, lived, visit almost every year and my wife is from Shymyrs. I know this system from and to. A wallet does not solve only when they get a good kick from a large bassek or when a really big hi-wai, as in this case, when you can’t hush it up. In all other cases, as he decided, decides and will decide. Why and dumped in due time. Nothing in the south is done without money and connections. No offense, honestly, I have never seen anything like this before, so that any place in the public sector, even a simple teacher at school, is for sale.

[Kasym]

Eugene, you better tell us how your cop with billions in the house was taken. Allegedly a sister who works in a bank. Well, what have you not seen there ??? . Honestly, it’s funny - you don’t see logs in your eye, but you notice a mote in someone else’s.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kasym

Eugene, you better tell how your cop with billions in the house took

by Kazakhstan standards, these are mere trifles, given the scandals with the Nazarbayev family

[Bulrumeb]

That's just about the log does not need a respected, what is happening in southern Kazakhstan to the local cops and never dreamed of, for this I am responsible. General Kulibayev nicknamed tomato as an example. The difference is that they took Zakharchenko by the ass, but there isn’t one, and the dough will be much more like that. So you can rub about a log to those who don’t know, but I know and in a way is much better than you.

[Kasym]

2200 criminal cases of corruption at the moment. Sat or sit the prime minister, ministers and governors. You know only Minister Ulyukaev and several governors.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kasym

KZ - police state

RK is not a police state and the police will not hit a finger if there is no shout from above
and they will dig only if NAS wants

[Bulrumeb]

he is trying to make a good face, with a bad game.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

think so in vain

Why so? Have 100% Old ?? I would like arguments ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

let's wait and see, but I think I'm right
By the way, in the year 7, a monument to pilots was defeated in Chimkent, but there is no information that there were no culprits

[LiSiCyn]

I suggest you go down a branch ..

Quote: Andrey KZ

what is the territory of the plant now. These are ruins, ruins and a huge mountain of slag. There, people who earn color, die under the collapsed walls, they are searched for for weeks. Absolutely abandoned territory.

All zilch

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

All zilch

what zilch?

[LiSiCyn]

Vladimir You are not a stupid person? News zilch ... Blown away We ourselves are full of such cases.
So do not escalate.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

So do not escalate.

what not to escalate?
in RK have long been exaggerating that they say the Great Patriotic War to the Kazakhs is by no means
By the way, when it blazes, it will be too late to pump, a banderostan to you as an example

[Kasym]

Stas, Hi! Do not argue with this shot - I do not advise. He already excelled here. He is one of our former, but as he himself admitted, there are not even any friends left here. Well, there he was carrying all kinds of nonsense, such as during the events of 86g. children were taken from schools to armored personnel carriers. The nationalist is still one. When there was a crowd of Kazakhstanis - he did not stick his nose out, now he is bold again. We sent him to complete “ignore” - no respect.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kasym

Well, there he was carrying all kinds of nonsense, such as during the events of 86g. children were taken from schools to armored personnel carriers

but let's not lie, I never wrote this, I wrote that schools guarded armored personnel carriers in 86 from "peaceful" youth

Quote: Kasym

The nationalist is still one.

can you give at least one of my nationalist statements?

Quote: Kasym

When there was a crowd of Kazakhstanis - he did not stick his nose out, now he is bold again.

? !!!!!
What are you and when was this ?!

[LiSiCyn]

Dauren, salaam alaikum !!

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I wrote that schools guarded armored personnel carriers in 86 from "peaceful" youth

What ???
Which schools? Numbers, if possible .. Himself at this time, studied

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

54 Alma-Ata

[LiSiCyn]

84th N. Five-Year Plan ...
From schools, everyone was driven home. Quiet, smooth surface ... Everything, at the level of rumors and stories of elders.
Although, there was an episode ... Let's go with a friend to the boutiques. N. The five-year-old, the private sector, and a birdie comes across to us at a meeting, near a railway school (dorm). He turned, on us unexpectedly. We looked at each other, each other ... I didn’t see such “lights” at that time, half my face ...
He fled from us ... Faster than we from him

[Kasym]

Stas, excuse me, went away for a while. You can imagine how to protect the school with armored personnel carriers from the crowd. 54 the school means guarded, and standing next to 120, 56, 21, etc. not.
They are more likely to crowd out the crowd with the area than to organize security. He was on the Immortal regiment in Alma-Ata. This is only seen in demonstrations in Soviet times. There were up to 120 thousand people. Just the human sea. NAS in the park 28 panfil. the speech was pushing. The action went from the Old Square to the park. I hope that soon there will be an adequate article - I made a bunch of photos there. Last year it was 70 thousand - so the action is gaining momentum in the Republic of Kazakhstan.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kasym

54 the school means guarded, and standing next to 120, 56, 21, etc. not.

I understand that you personally were near all these schools

[ANCIENT]

And the virus of sodomism has arrived there ! Only the Kazakhs themselves must find and feed lead those who made this meanness! In their throats, beat lead plates! !!

[Dormidont]

How is it? The massacre of Russians at the beginning of the 20th century became their public holiday.

[Polkanov]

... the forerunner of the future confrontation ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Dormidont

The massacre of Russians at the beginning of the 20th century became their public holiday.

Like Kazakhs? What holiday? Do not confuse anything?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ANCIENT

And the virus of sodomism has arrived there

he has been there for a long time

[Egorovich]

Eh Kazakhs, Kazakhs, along the foul path follow the horses. After all, an “example” is right before your eyes.

[bouncyhunter]

Sasha, salute!

Quote: Egorovich

After all, an “example” is right before your eyes.

That's it.

[Egorovich]

Pasha, salute ! And everywhere, always there is homegrown mra zota.

[bouncyhunter]

Where mattresses are marked - do not look for honey ...

[Egorovich]

Are you right, Pash. Where this vile country is chaos and bedlam.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Egorovich

Where this vile country is chaos and bedlam.

But these tricks are trumpeting about "crap and justice." Ugh, moody hoopoes ...

[Egorovich]

In vain we are talking about them, they went ......., you know where.

[bouncyhunter]

We will not swear and give pretext for predators to hunt us. He who thinks will understand what we are talking about. And we - we understand each other!

[Chicha squad]

The virus walks throughout the post-Soviet space.

[Vadim237]

What is this virus and how to deal with it?

[Chicha squad]

Which affects the brain, that memory is lost. Fight only with education, strengthen memory, so to speak.

[Dormidont]

Latin was only the beginning

[bald]

In our time, they didn’t give peace to the living, therefore, many of them started off to Russia from there. Now they have taken up the memory. If the head is rotten, then the rest of the organism of decay cannot be avoided.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Kazakhstan has 2 ways - either with Russia, or being in the sixes of China ... the United States will only be watched and abandoned here ...

[Greg Miller]

No one will ask anything from Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not the SUBJECT of world politics in order to have the right to choose its development, but the OBJECT - others will decide for it ...

[Kasym]

Interestingly, people do not live here, have never been and give out such "pearls".
Ah, today in Astana, documents on the EAEU free trade zone with Iran and China have been signed. At the forum, and not at some summit of the heads of state. This is the level of trust of the first persons of the EAEU countries to the National Academy of Sciences and KZ.
Tomahawks of Americans will not reach here, before KZ. And without this they do not come together. So dream, "friends," next.
You tell about the OBJECT Sechin or the heads of Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Rosneft was given all the capacities of our oil pipeline to China (10 million tons a year - without it, Rosneft would not be able to fulfill obligations with Beijing), and two capacities were given all the capacities through our gas pipelines to China (55 billion cubic meters a year - no more in Gazprom’s pipes gas from Central Asia, by the way there is one place on the board of directors of Gazprom zv KZ - in the know or what?).
Or tell us for the cooperation between Rosatom and Kazatomprom - you do not have the required amount of uranium, and KZ - 1 place in the world in uranium mining and third in reserves.
Honestly, I didn’t even want to comment, but your arrogance just cuts down. Zero knowledge, and at least be overwhelmed.

[impostor]

Here, comrades, not so long ago, pounded their heels on the chest, that switching to the Latin alphabet, transferring the Caspian ports to Amers is nonsense and everything is good there. I would like to hear their comment.

[Greg Miller]

It would be possible to reproach the Kazakhs for this, if not for the NATO base in Ulyanovsk ....

[alekc75]

drunk in the morning ?? - no bases in Ulyanovsk !!!

[impostor]

Yes, there is something to blame, but in 2015 the Ulyanovsk transit is closed

[Non liberoid Russian]

you remind me of one misery from the portal of films .... also so persecuted, likes a lot of accounts and constantly pretends to be a woman ... likes to lie the same way, and drove his gender there

[already a Muscovite]

It is useless ... Everywhere in the comments under this news, the Kazakhs are cast out and "swear by their mother" that the Russian Natsik chauvinists did it ... So the guilty parties have already been identified ...

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Elk

There are everywhere. But something Kazakhstan has recently begun to bother.

The "independent" generation has grown .... It will be worse even further - it will soon become the majority ....

[gorenina91]

- In vain the site optimists hope in Kazakhstan’s law enforcement agencies ... Indeed, only ethnic Kazakhs (99,9%) work (serve) in these law enforcement agencies ... -And they are unlikely to catch and punish "their Kazakhs". .. -and the act of vandalism, most likely ... -the "locals" committed the same local residents ... -Well, not the "dill" came to Kazakhstan for this desecration ...
-With Kazakhstan, everything is very, very complicated ... -and rainbow optimism is not appropriate here ... -Let's come to the point ...- if there is any opposition in Kazakhstan ...- then again ... -It consists only of Kazakhs ... -But after all, there are still quite a lot of ethnic Russians there ... -but they are even afraid to utter a laugh there ...
- By the way ... -Because even in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia ethnic Russians organize some kind of protest movements, marches, publicly speak out for their rights ...- before TV, before correspondents, in the press ...
-And in Kazakhstan ...- everything is dull ... like in a tank ... -the Russians are simply silent there ... -they really really fear for their lives and the lives of their children ... -that's the thing ...

[Kasym]

But in Kazakhstan there is the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan and the Russian community of Kazakhstan, which is part of it. Go to the site and everything will become clear if you know how to read.
There is no strong opposition here ....
Irina, well, your knowledge of the Republic of Kazakhstan is simply zero, why comment at all - ask at least our Russians on the site.
I wish you success in this field.

[gorenina91]

-And you already "succeeded" in everything ...

[Andrey KZ]

The Shimkent Akimat commented on the incident with the memorial to the participants of the Second World War, who was defeated by vandals, Tengrinews.kz reports. Unknown people damaged the memorial, erected in memory of the front-line soldiers - employees of the lead plant. "The situation that happened with the monument to the lead soldiers who fought in the Great Patriotic War cannot leave anyone indifferent. Once this monument was erected on the initiative of the company's employees. At that time it was the only monument on which the names of those who left the factory were carved and didn’t return. However, over time, the territory in which it is located was transferred to a private trader, and afterwards it was mortgaged into a bank, "the city akimat explained. “At one time, the akimat suggested that the initiative group move the monument to the territory of the fifth school, but this idea did not find support. Now, the akimat has no right to restore or transfer property belonging to third parties,” the local executive body concluded. It is noted that the names of all 400 lead people who went to the front are not forgotten and can be found on the slabs of the Glory Memorial, which is located in the city park of Abay.
I’ll add on my own, the situation with the monument also depresses me, but for the sake of justice I must explain what the territory of the plant is now. These are ruins, ruins and a huge mountain of slag. There, people who earn color, perish under the collapsed walls, they have been looking for them for weeks. Absolutely abandoned territory.

[Slon_on]

It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned, attempts by local authorities to change the situation are futile. The blame lies not only with the vandals, but also with those who allowed this

[Andrey KZ]

It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned.

Not certainly in that way . The monument is located on the territory of the plant, and the plant is privately owned. Yes, and this can not be called a plant anymore, it’s a pity, I worked at that plant for a while.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Andrey KZ

It turns out that the monument is abandoned, launched and is privately owned,

Everything, the end of the sensation
And in the tape, “beat the Kazakhs” is already rushing ... They, also go to the Latin alphabet
And the fact that most of you and the Cyrillic alphabet did not understand them , so it doesn’t matter ... Around are only enemies and traitors.
People wake up ... There is a roll, someone deliberately inflates the topic.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Everything, the end of the sensation

what does the sensation have to do with it?
in tm that you did not even bother to study the topic?
the monument is not privately owned, but on land which is private property

"In response to the atrocities of unknown intruders, local authorities reported that the memorial is in private territory and may be dismantled."

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

what does the sensation have to do with it?
in tm that you did not even bother to study the topic?

Vladimir, you start to disappoint me
Theme, sucked out of a finger ... Abandoned factory, abandoned monument. It is necessary here, in Russia, to restore everything the same, and then indicate to the neighbors. You about dancing, etc. at the Eternal Flame, to remind ??

[dad]

You still forgot to indicate about American bases in the Caspian and about transit. Which by the way and through the territory of Russia passes.

[NF68]

The territory of the plant where this monument is abandoned. Witnesses may not be found. the hope is that someone will blab out somewhere and still find the culprits.

[Kasym]

In the offices for the delivery of recycled goods and color. metals.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

In the offices for the delivery of recycled goods and color. metals.

And that could also be.

[dvv1951]

Apparently a dream does not come to someone.
-
In our city, the tread is heard at night -
Apparently a dream does not come to someone.
I did not believe until I saw everything myself
On a dawn gloomy morning.

A concrete soldier was walking, returning,
To climb the square of the pedestal.
Through his tears he cast his lost glance
On the realities of the new world.

To the fascist signs of hanging banners
To the crosses along the big fence
To the familiar symbols of our times
And he cried, bent over from grief.

[APASUS]

I know one oil worker from Kazakhstan. He lived in Kazakhstan for a long time and knows the language very well. So the bus rides through the city and drives past the construction of a hefty shopping complex, the Chinese are building it as it should. The whole bus instantly starts to whisper, they say, they give work, although not one of those sitting on the bus will go to work at a construction site.
This is such a small touch to the mentality .........................

[Kasym]

Well, I built two houses with my own hands, I don’t remember how many repairs I did. He even repaired the entrance of his house with his own hands. Although I have a completely different specialty. Why write this nonsense - you have so little at the construction sites of Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Tajiks ?!

[APASUS]

Quote: Kasym

Well, I built two houses with my own hands, I don’t remember how many repairs I did. He even repaired the entrance of his house with his own hands. Although I have a completely different specialty. Why write this nonsense - you have so little at the construction sites of Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Tajiks ?!

Have you seen many Kazakhs at a construction site in Russia? And I have a sister after a guy from Semipalatinsk, they rushed to Murmansk, I can share

[garnik]

In every nation there are ub.lyudki. About 3 to 4 years ago, at one of the cemeteries in Krasnodar, about 70 (Russian, according to neighbors who have buried there.) Monuments were littered or desecrated.

In general, Kazakhstan will be on the side on which Turkey is located. Nazarbayev does not hide his dream of uniting the Turks, and if we are together with the Turks, then everything is through.

[Heterocapsa]

In cemeteries, mainly teenage Satanic sects are mainly engaged in this. We used to catch these, and ambushed them at night.

[garnik]

So in Kazakhstan, unusual youth scoffed at the monument. Just articles often appear on VO provocative. At least the allies were not convicted loudly in misunderstandings, but it can be quietly and effectively.

[Kasym]

Or maybe the Turks will be on the side where NAS points. He has already reconciled Turks and Russians ... By the way, in Turkey, the ANAS has "frantic" support among the local population.

[Borders]

he did not reconcile, but bred (deceived) Russia, because, as it turned out, Perdogash did not bring any apology. And the text itself was translated by this NAS ... Yeah

[Prisoner]

Do we have vandals? Part of the people oskotinivaetsya part of the beasts, regardless of geography.

[Grandfather Makar]

Kazakhstan has long been alarming ..... Toli still awaits us all!

[Navy7981]

When the strength of the strong passes, the strength of the weak comes, and then just hold on that they will "be strange."

[tracer]

Began...

[Greg Miller]

Quote: alekc75

drunk in the morning ?? - no bases in Ulyanovsk !!!

Well, the Caspian is not NATO bases!

[Dedall]

Oh, and there was also a good brewery once.
And the country was huge, and now only fragments remained from it and they strive to prick at the heel.

[Kasym]

The level of GDP of the Kazakh SSR was overcome in the past decade.

[Heterocapsa]

Ordinary fascism.

[brr1]

Sheshenamynsky scum

[LiSiCyn]

Ah ha ... cunning

Quote: brr1

sheshenaminsky

Totally agree

[The leader of the Redskins]

Something I do not read the cries that usually accompany news of this nature from Ukraine. Let's start "... Kazakh Bandera, brown plague, Chekmen junta ... Where is the usual vocabulary ?!

[brr1]

In fact, if you count the number of such cases in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan, I think the Russian Federation has gone far ahead, even in percentage terms. For example, in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika. So it’s better not to tear the farts, otherwise in return they will throw links to such cases in the Russian Federation unmeasured.

[LiSiCyn]

At last
There are people in their right mind on the site

Quote: brr1

Today, 22: 52
In fact, if you count the number of such cases in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan, I think the Russian Federation has gone far ahead even in a percentage ratio

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Something I do not read the screams that usually accompany news of this nature from Ukraine.

This, upstream, there are a lot of them

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: brr1

in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika.

Do you see a gopher?
by the way, a shaved head is not the only sign of the Nazis

[LiSiCyn]

Vladimir, honestly, have offended you, Kazakhs ?? You, Th "horn" rested ?? Everyone has already chewed ... But you, your 5 cents, how not to stick
So what do you have negative connected with Kazakhstan ??? Share ...

[LiSiCyn]

Vladimir, so are you a ?? Koenig ?? To the region from Kazakhstan ?? Where from?
Me, the lack of a flag confused ...

[LiSiCyn]

I see that they read ... But there is no answer Encrypted ??? Do not be afraid, I will not come without an invitation

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

what did you read? !!!
but as for encryption, I’ve already uploaded twenty times the full home address
Pravdinsky district, Hasty farm
when I read it and answered

[dad]

In his childhood, Kazakh children took away toys-offended

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Think a smart thing they said?
deeply mistaken
in childhood, by the way, this didn’t occur to anyone to say that you are not Kazakh, therefore, do not blather

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

So what do you have negative connected with Kazakhstan ??? Share ...

I'm sorry you yourself come from, where were you born?
but about the negative, they tell you that you are no one just because it’s not the title is it negative or not?

[LiSiCyn]

Vladimir
From Alma-Ata. N. The Five-Year Plan, Dr. Shugla, Sairan. In the area since the 98th.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

about the negative, they tell you that you are no one just because it’s not the title is it negative or not?

I agree, this is negative
But at the same time, when the aul people speak to your friend ("titular"), step aside, and we’ll talk to this Russian. To which, he replies negatively and says that "this" Russian, his brother ... But, they are hell Mambetan ... This is positive

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

To which, he replies in the negative and says that “this” Russian is his brother.

I don’t argue, they fought back to back, but the problem is that now mamba is in power and they are becoming more and more left Almaty in the year 9
By the way, Abay-Sofy had been almost neighbors for the last 18 years, and before that, Gogol-Furmanov was in Moscow

[Shooting]

All these are excuses from the local administration about the private owner, on whose territory the monument is now, and the inability to influence this. This situation indicates the lack of power in this city in the correct sense of the concept of city administration. If the administration of what she wants through "corpses goes", but gets her way. So bad wants. This is all sad.

[Sarcasm]

Vandalism is a crime. On relations between the states of Russia 370 euros average salary Kazakhstan 441 euros what can we teach them? How to live poorer?

[Visa Witness]

In Kazakhstan, almost 40% are Russians. So what needs to be more careful there

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

has long been closer to 20

[seacap]

Well, they waited, and it did not begin today. Russians were smoked there from the very beginning, quietly and persistently, just like the non-brothers. Schools also took up the language. Again we will be surprised and shrug, and diplomats and specialists mumble and justify their inaction and failure to broadcast something about non-intervention and sovereignty. It’s better to tell our overseas partners about this, it seems they don’t know anything about it, and we are all enlightened many times over. Again, the army will puff, and if everyone serves, then who will work and support the army, political strategists and effective managers, or maybe Oxford graduates, or maybe our so-called artistic rainbow garbage-beau monde, I doubt something. This is to what extent inactivity and disregard for their country, how to despise and hate it in order to abandon their territories and people without a fight and protection, just like that, give to the enemy. And after that they, these political pygmies still dare to talk about kings and councils, about Stalin, to compare the results of everyone’s rule and everything falls into place, shows who is great and loved, and who is unworthy and despised by his people.

[brr1]

And what is the connection between all this?

[LiSiCyn]

The person has accumulated, decided to throw out. The beginning of the topic, the rest is about their own.

[Ksr82]

Success in foreign policy, say?) Well, well)

[odometer]

The insanity of most “commentators” and how few sound judgments are simply amazing. The act of vandalism, committed trivially for the purpose of profit, is presented in the article strictly as "an obvious provocation" and "an attempt to drive a wedge." Well, open your eyes and ears ... An attempt to drive a wedge - these are articles like this and which appear with enviable regularity, and these attempts are successful, judging by the comments.

[brr1]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: brr1

in Kazakhstan, I have never seen shaved cockerels with a swastika.

Do you see a gopher?
by the way, a shaved head is not the only sign of the Nazis

A very superficial perception of my words, although in general it’s hard to expect another from people brought up on films like DMB. The attitude of people to this problem in different countries leads to the outward manifestation of these problems. And in Russia, they hate more of their own citizens from the Caucasus than the Nazis, for example. And so they rejoice when some fascists slaughter somewhere in a crowd of a pale person. And if the opposite happens, everyone howls that the black-asses are beating our pale-faced (and not a fascist at all, but a Russian patriot)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: brr1

And so they rejoice when some fascists beat somewhere in a crowd of non-pale

are you happy
I do not, therefore leave, by the way, is not for you to judge what I was brought up

[seacap]

Quote: curvimeter

The act of vandalism, committed trivially for the purpose of profit, is presented in the article strictly as "an obvious provocation" and "an attempt to drive a wedge."

Sorry, but I can tell you on what basis I draw my conclusions, of course, not having all the information, I could be wrong, but the facts are as follows. In my city there are already whole areas of former residents from Kazakhstan, many acquaintances and neighbors, all of them already have Russian citizenship and have full-fledged work in various fields. Moreover, they have been leaving and leaving since the 90s, they all held leading and profitable positions requiring high vocational training and education, all were dismissed in the early 90s under various pretexts, but for one reason that they are not representatives of the titular nation. Unbearable conditions were created in everyday life, and everyday Russophobia was cultivated and encouraged by the authorities, and Russian schools were closed, and the use of the Russian language was limited, etc. etc. And all this in the northern regions, which had never belonged to Kazakhstan before, where there were 10-15% of Kazakhs. He even moved the capital to the north to areas that were not suitable for life, only because he "staked out" these ancient and primordially Russian areas, and these are cosmodromes, training grounds, spacecraft landing sites and so on, much more. Indulgence of khans and bahas will not lead to good and will not lead, history has more than once already taught a lesson on this subject, like serfs-farm laborers from the outskirts, and khans have already been sold and betrayed, not in vain the kings and emperors, and they kept advice they were on a short leash and did not stand on ceremony to restore order and explain who is who. And all these blah blah blah of our politicians, covering up their helplessness and bankruptcy, have led and will lead to sad consequences like those with the non-brothers and the Caucasus. You cannot learn from the enemy yourself, you cannot and do not want to learn, you cannot defend your original interests and territories by wiping your snot with a broken nosyrbum and cheekbones further, there’s something about international law and a similar heresy about which our overseas partners do not even suspect, it means that your number 2 is at home, your relatives will use your distant neighbor, and it’s your business to remain silent and pay for their whole holiday of life. It’s rude, but the reality is today.

[Comrade Kim]

Nazarbayev workers practice yards of the main dictator of Central Asia, thawed out in the USA.
More will be more fun.
Apparently again, as after the collapse of the USSR, pogroms began, Nazarbayev scumbags would drive the Russians out of their apartments, wring out business. Again, as blood spills in the 90s.

[LiSiCyn]

What are you talking about? What pogroms? Come on facts?

Quote: Comrade Kim

Again, as blood spills in the 90s.

Personally shed blood?

[odometer]

Quote: seacap

Unbearable conditions were created in everyday life, and everyday Russophobia was cultivated and encouraged by the authorities, and Russian schools were closed, and the use of the Russian language was limited, etc. and so on

I don’t know for what purpose your many acquaintances and neighbors are spreading such misinformation, I can only speculate ... Domestic nationalism has always existed everywhere - “in a family is not without a freak.” Regarding restrictions on the use of the language: Russian, to one degree or another , is owned by most residents of Kazakhstan, when broadcasting programs, programs or films in the Kazakh language, they include Russian subtitles and vice versa, I mean national television channels, in everyday life there are no problems with the language, state structures (Kazakh) are required to be used in government institutions and Russian, as the language of interethnic communication, the slightest distortions in language policy, which are trying to initiate excessively zealous fools, are being cut short.

Quote: seacap

these are ancient and primordially Russian regions, and these are cosmodromes, landfills, landing sites for spacecraft, etc.

Look at the map, where are all the listed objects? It’s difficult to call genuine Russian, and even more so since ancient times. I’m not a fan of hymns or swearing ... I’m for objectivity in information, being on the Web, I think you can get more or less believable by filtering from “husks”. The working methods of the media have long been known, and when will a handful of voiced coin be dumped for this ... But does someone order this "music"?

[Alex Justice]

Quote: Polkanov

I know Kazakhstan. There have always been a lot of freaks. Even in Soviet times.

Not true. Normal people.

[Sergey-8848]

Here, even without a note from our embassy, ​​Kazakhstanis can and must certainly tear their heads off to provocateurs. Otherwise, their law enforcement bodies and the words of various akims are worthless (right up to the brightest !!!).

[Bulrumeb]

Kasym,
and what does it prove? once again I say the place of a teacher in a secondary school is sold to you, and not to us, extorted everywhere and everywhere from you, starting with crossing the border and going-and-go, they press everyone who can and where it can and there is no need to prove that it is not So.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Bulrumeb

extort everywhere and everywhere

This is an old Central Asian tradition.

[Bulrumeb]

and then, just do not want to recognize the obvious)))

[brr1]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

what did you read? !!!
but as for encryption, I’ve already uploaded twenty times the full home address
Pravdinsky district, Hasty farm
when I read it and answered

Elusive joe

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: brr1

Elusive joe

what is this for?

[brr1]

I remembered a joke

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Apparently you are all off topic

[brr1]

Generally not the topic. Just remembered

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in the garden of buina

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: LiSiCyn

84th N. Five-Year Plan ...
From schools, everyone was driven home. Quiet, smooth surface ... Everything, at the level of rumors and stories of elders.
Although, there was an episode ... Let's go with a friend to the boutiques. N. The five-year-old, the private sector, and a birdie comes across to us at a meeting, near a railway school (dorm). He turned, on us unexpectedly. We looked at each other, each other ... I didn’t see such “lights” at that time, half my face ...
He fled from us ... Faster than we from him

our lessons were not canceled, when the crowd approached the director closed all the doors and 10-15 minutes later the armored personnel carrier drove up, stood on the western part of the Gorky-Furman intersection, the crowd smashed all the stained-glass windows in the station wagon, turned over the trays and went up the wagon