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Two megatons. The media revealed the characteristics of the underwater drone

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The Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicle created in Russia will be able to carry a nuclear warhead with a capacity of up to two megatons to destroy enemy naval bases, reports TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex.


Two megatons. The media revealed the characteristics of the underwater drone


On the “torpedo” of the multi-purpose marine system “Poseidon”, it will be possible to install various nuclear charges, the maximum power will have a monoblock thermonuclear warhead similar to the “Avagard” charge - up to two megatons in TNT equivalent
- source said

According to him, in nuclear equipment, the device will be “designed primarily to destroy the fortified naval bases of a potential enemy” and will be able to reach the target at an intercontinental distance at a depth of more than one kilometer at speeds up to 130 km / h.

As previously reported, the Poseidon will enter the Navy’s combat strength under the current weapons program for the 2018-2027 years, its carrier will be a new specialized submarine being built at Sevmash.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 18
    +3
    The Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicle being created in Russia will be able to carry a nuclear warhead with a capacity of up to two megatons to destroy enemy naval bases,

    2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small.
    its carrier will be a new specialized submarine under construction at Sevmash.

    And here I think the carrier can be, with some refinement, almost any submarine or surface ship.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 May 2018 13: 20
      +7
      Quote: NEXUS
      And here I think the carrier can be, with some refinement, almost any submarine or surface ship.

      Any submarine will not work. A specialized nuclear submarine Khabarovsk is being built for these purposes.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 21
        +2
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Any submarine will not work. A specialized nuclear submarine Khabarovsk is being built for these purposes.

        And Belgorod ... I said, with some alteration. And with surface carriers even easier.
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 May 2018 13: 31
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          And Belgorod ...

          Belgorod is an old project, all the same at the heart of 949A. It is rather a carrier of deep-sea atomic stations (AGS) ala Losharik and others like them. It will be completed to replace the BS-136 "Orenburg", which is high time to cut into needles.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 32
            0
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            Belgorod is an old project, everything is at the heart of 949A. It is rather a carrier of deep-sea atomic stations (AGS) ala Losharik and others like them.

            Not at all a fact. In addition, subsequent Ash-M can adapt to the use of such a torpedo. After all, on PIKE-B there were Grenades with YABCH.
            1. maxim947
              maxim947 17 May 2018 13: 40
              +9
              2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small.

              According to the classification, everything that is larger than 1Mt goes like an extra-large power, so this is quite a lot to itself. There, only the diameter of the fireball is more than 2000 m., The diameter of the cloud is more than 22 km. This is a ground explosion, underwater (surface) its "charms".
              And interestingly, the option of launching from the shore is being considered? In terms of reliability and security, it would not be bad.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 17 May 2018 14: 12
                +6
                Quote: NEXUS
                2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small.


                In the current reality - it doesn’t matter


                It is important to conduct exercises with this thing more often, as follows:

                - Seattle, San Diego, New Port, Philadelphia, New York ...


                The US destroyer entered the Black Sea - a boat surfaced near the US coast, said it’s armed with Poseidon,

                did something else bad - surfaced again, at Florida


                And it’s always so that, like Pavlov’s dog, a reflex is worked out - a low-key ... ..

                Also declare that these toys can be hung under a cargo ship


                The British do not want to show us the Skripals - surfaced side by side to hide their tongue


                Still, something incomprehensible but similar to let go nearby, such as drowned during trials or teachings, so as to quiet down

                1. krot
                  krot 17 May 2018 16: 52
                  0
                  For me, to make a couple of such torpedoes with a capacity of up to 50 Mg. For east and west coast. (for every fireman) Although it certainly will be)
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 17 May 2018 16: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: krot
                    For me, to make a couple of such torpedoes with a capacity of up to 50 Mg. For east and west coast. (for every fireman))


                    You can carry without megatons at all, the main thing is to show what you have and are ready
              2. bulvas
                bulvas 17 May 2018 14: 27
                +5
                It turns out that we have more factors causing them unacceptable damage.

                Without coasts and ports, neither the United States nor Britain can survive in this world
                Yes, and others ... ... if they get confused in politics, they also cannot live without the ocean.

                So you need to use this to the fullest, push the psyche to the maximum.
                They are trying to put pressure on us with their fleet, and we will be ours ... even if without aircraft carriers

                The ocean for the USA is now not the friend behind whom they were hiding, but the enemy, that is, our friend

                1. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 17 May 2018 19: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: bulvas

                  Without coasts and ports, neither the United States nor Britain can survive in this world
                  The ocean for the USA is now not the friend behind whom they were hiding, but the enemy, that is, our friend

                  In the United States, most large cities are located on the ocean coast and they are very vulnerable to Poseidons. But it is necessary without delay to establish their mass production and the production of their carriers, and put on combat duty.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 17 May 2018 13: 33
        +3
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Any submarine will not work. A specialized nuclear submarine Khabarovsk is being built for these purposes.

        And the suburbs?
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 May 2018 13: 46
          0
          "Moscow Region" is also an old project, based on 667BDRM. He is noisy. And Khabarovsk will not be a submarine converted to the needs of the GUGI, but a new project of a different generation.
          1. hrych
            hrych 17 May 2018 21: 41
            0
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            He is noisy.

            They do not need to enter the active won PLO. Therefore, it’s quite enough to go into a certain square under the cover of our PLO means, stand on guard and shoot back if that. laughing
    2. Hire
      Hire 17 May 2018 13: 23
      +6
      "Intended primarily for the destruction of the fortified naval bases of a potential enemy"

      I have a very indirect relationship to the sea. Apparently, therefore, I don’t understand what the destruction of the Navy pair will bring, when the entire fleet of adversaries will already be at sea near our shores. This is if at face value take the stated goals. I think that their task is to "wash off" the western coast of the United States.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 29
        +8
        Quote: Hire
        Apparently, therefore, I don’t understand what the destruction of the Navy pair will bring, when the entire fleet of adversaries will already be at sea near our shores.

        Most of the US industrial infrastructure is located off the coast. This is the idea of ​​the same Status-6. Destroyed all coastal infrastructure and the United States suffers unacceptable losses.
        The beauty of the Status is that it is effective not only against the United States but also against the EU, China, Canada, etc. ... and against us it is ineffective, since our industry is mostly in the depths of the mainland.
        I think Poseidon will also carry different warheads ... maybe a non-nuclear warhead, but with a good warhead. If it is necessary to sink the ship. Or with a super powerful nuclear warhead at 50 megatons, in case the United States cut through at the end.
        2 megatons is quite a good torpedo for itself, capable of not only washing off the base, but also sowing the AUG in bulk.
        1. Yaro Polk
          Yaro Polk 17 May 2018 13: 43
          0
          Megatonna (abbreviated as Mt), depending on the context, can mean: A unit of mass equal to 106 tons or 109 kg. A unit of energy equal to 4,184 × 1015 J. It is defined as the amount of energy released during the detonation of 1 million tons of trinitrotoluene (TNT)
          https://youtu.be/kTb4OgCVF-M
      2. MPN
        MPN 17 May 2018 13: 42
        +8
        Quote: Hire
        when the entire fleet of adversaries will already be at sea near our shores.

        Well, ours will remain, repaint ... The concept of "a couple of bases" is, strangely enough, very broad ... smile
      3. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 17 May 2018 16: 39
        +2
        Quote: Hire
        which will result in the destruction of a navy pair when the entire fleet of adversaries is already at sea near our shores.

        There is nowhere to recharge, refuel, repair the adversary. There is no place to trade either. Plus, no fleet can leave the base as part of 100% - some ships are always under repair, maintenance, and these ships will also never be able to go to sea never.
      4. Fedor egoist
        Fedor egoist 17 May 2018 17: 13
        0
        You can’t wash off the coast with a couple of megatons, perhaps the city. So, if power is not being cunning in a smaller direction, then only the cobalt version.
        For Americans and especially those living nearby, an option with 50-100Mt, but without a cobalt shell, would be preferable. And so - both coasts will glow for hundreds of years. Perhaps part of the cobalt with the Gulf Stream will sail to Europe.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 17 May 2018 17: 23
          0
          Quote: Fedor Egoist
          So, if power is not being cunning in a smaller direction, then only the cobalt version.

          But do you take into account a mini-nuclear reactor in addition to YaBZ?
          1. Fedor egoist
            Fedor egoist 18 May 2018 11: 33
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            But do you take into account a mini-nuclear reactor in addition to YaBZ?

            No, I don’t take it. And it is necessary?
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 May 2018 13: 29
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      almost any submarine can be a carrier

      Apparently, at the same time, it will lose its original purpose as a carrier of the Kyrgyz Republic or ICBMs.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 34
        0
        Quote: Piramidon
        Apparently, at the same time, it will lose its original purpose as a carrier of the Kyrgyz Republic or ICBMs.

        And Pike-B lost the status of a multi-purpose submarine when they received the KR Grenade? M
    4. MPN
      MPN 17 May 2018 13: 40
      +7
      Quote: NEXUS
      2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small.

      According to Hiroshima, less than 20 Kt worked here 100 times more, while you can explode both underwater and on water ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 43
        +5
        Quote: MPN
        According to Hiroshima, less than 20 Kt worked here 100 times more, while you can explode both underwater and on water ...

        I’m thinking, if you make a torpedo half the size of a caliber 533 mm, and with a nuclear warhead in a megaton, with the same characteristics (a mini nuclear reactor), then such a torpedo can be used by all carriers with standard SLTs.
        1. MPN
          MPN 17 May 2018 13: 48
          +6
          Quote: NEXUS
          I’m thinking, if you make a torpedo two times smaller in size for a caliber 533 mm

          I believe that this pepelats is not limited only to these tasks ..., and the SS seems to have dimensions, perhaps it was built around it ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 57
            +1
            Quote: MPN
            and SU, apparently, has dimensions, maybe it was built around it ...

            In the 50s, we developed the T-5 torpedo. Under caliber 533 mm. I think these developments did not remain to gather dust in a box.
            1. MPN
              MPN 17 May 2018 14: 01
              +6
              I’m talking about the dimensions of a nuclear engine ... maybe 533mm doesn’t fit and the dimensions were rather chosen from this ...
    5. P0LYM
      P0LYM 17 May 2018 14: 16
      +1
      2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small.

      In other words: this is enough ....
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 14: 23
        0
        Quote: P0LYM
        In other words: this is enough ....

      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 17 May 2018 14: 28
        0
        It is felt that the Americans need to plant more explosives for the crash test of their old aircraft carrier ... some 5-6 discharges.
    6. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 17 May 2018 15: 16
      0
      2 megatons is somehow not very much, but not very small

      Enough for any naval base.
    7. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 May 2018 17: 03
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      2 megatons is somehow not very much,

      It's like a hundred bombs dropped on Hiroshima. sad
    8. Labrador
      Labrador 17 May 2018 22: 34
      +1
      A lot or a little, but I would not like to be a sailor on an AUG ship, when such a thing comes up. hi
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 May 2018 23: 20
        0
        Quote: Labrador
        A lot or a little, but I would not like to be a sailor on an AUG ship, when such a thing comes up. hi

        It will be like this ...
  2. AUL
    AUL 17 May 2018 13: 21
    +3
    At a speed of 130 km / h (almost 90 knots) it will roar throughout the ocean. But intercepting it will be very problematic.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: AUL
      At a speed of 130 km / h (almost 90 knots) it will roar throughout the ocean.

      At a depth of a kilometer, it doesn’t matter at all, since there is no means of intercepting such a torpedo at such a depth, going at such a speed. Moreover, where did you get the idea that it would roar?
    2. MPN
      MPN 17 May 2018 14: 02
      +6
      Quote: AUL
      At a speed of 130 km / h (almost 90 knots) it will roar throughout the ocean. But intercepting it will be very problematic.

      This is if rowing with brass ... smile , but if the crawl then it will be quieter .... laughing
    3. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 17 May 2018 15: 21
      +1
      Approximately 70 knots, not 90.
  3. Nikolay Kuznetsov
    Nikolay Kuznetsov 17 May 2018 13: 41
    0
    Why only naval bases? Probably can destroy any coastal city .. Came up, blew up and ... hello !!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 May 2018 13: 45
      +5
      Quote: Nikolai Kuznetsov
      Why only naval bases? Probably can destroy any coastal city .. Came up, blew up and ... hello !!!

      This is not rumored, but implied. hi
      1. Nikolay Kuznetsov
        Nikolay Kuznetsov 18 May 2018 18: 36
        +1
        Clear..!
  4. RainTNT
    RainTNT 17 May 2018 13: 42
    0
    It is a pity that Putin did not say that in 2050 everyone will have blasters.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 17 May 2018 14: 32
      +2
      Why didn’t you speak? He spoke and even much earlier. "Weapons on new physical principles" is called. But only shhhh .... they did not fall The death star which is parked behind the moon.
  5. loki565
    loki565 17 May 2018 13: 44
    0
    And why not launch it from the shore ??? It is clear that the number of carriers will be limited and they will be very vulnerable, primary goals ...
    1. P0LYM
      P0LYM 17 May 2018 14: 30
      0
      Coastal infrastructure is our primary goal
  6. Lerych
    Lerych 17 May 2018 13: 50
    0
    Still, at the final stage, they will teach 100 meters to jump out of the water ... So, 2 km to the target ...
  7. Abram
    Abram 17 May 2018 13: 53
    0
    it seems that the US missile defense is extremely dangerous, including for the newfangled Vanguards and other things, flying. Otherwise, why waste resources and duplicate the total destruction destruction function assigned to ICBMs with this “torpedo”
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 17 May 2018 14: 04
      +2
      Quote: Abram
      one gets the impression

      Yes, everything does not work out ... recourse laughing
    2. Lerych
      Lerych 17 May 2018 14: 07
      +1
      So she is not obliged to carry the JBCh. Maybe from a depth of 1000 meters, an abdomen can have an abortion, or a cesarean ... Whoever you like best.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 17 May 2018 14: 35
        0
        Or in a tectonic fault, to smell near the adversary, as an option.
      2. Abram
        Abram 17 May 2018 14: 51
        +1
        the article deals specifically with the carrier of high-power thermonuclear weapons for the destruction of naval bases. Based on this, I concluded that either this function is redundant, or missile defense is a much more serious opponent. And you can fantasize about other uses for a long time.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 17 May 2018 15: 20
          0
          Quote: Abram
          either missile defense is a much more serious opponent.

          For missile defense there is Petrel and Vanguard with Sarmatian.
        2. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 17 May 2018 15: 27
          +2
          Hmm, but no one, except some here, suffers from hatred. The US is supposed to be a serious adversary. And how can circumstances arise in the event of a conflict, no one is 100% able to predict. So the guaranteed defeat of one or another type of weapon is laid.
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 17 May 2018 22: 59
          +1
          In general, you were not mistaken. These "mega" projects are a kind of indirect self-recognition of Russia in self-doubt. Acknowledgment of the increasing lag in technology from a group of developed countries and a recognition of the inability to bridge this gap in the future.
          Unlike China, which found the strength to make a national effort - a common technological breakthrough, Russia hopes for super-weapons that compensate for the technical backlog. And this is sad, because it will lead to reciprocal (and more technological) “anti-Poseidons,” which will further widen the gap.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 May 2018 13: 54
    +2
    Two megatons is New York nafig. In an explosion underwater - in the state of New Jersey, the wave will ride ...
  9. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 17 May 2018 14: 10
    +2
    The intercontinental range means that it can be launched from the coast.
  10. Lerych
    Lerych 17 May 2018 14: 23
    0
    I don’t think that Poseidon’s attack on the coast is the primary task. There are other means. You can’t just shoot from the Pacific, Arctic, Atlantic Ocean, from the Black and Mediterranean Sea in Russia. BLL for the global destruction of the fleet of the restless "partner".
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 May 2018 15: 22
      0
      Quote: Lerych
      I don’t think that Poseidon’s attack on the coast is the primary task.

      Poseidon is just a more guaranteed argument, because you can’t build a missile defense system at a depth of 1000 meters.
  11. Imobile
    Imobile 17 May 2018 14: 25
    0
    It is very cool. It can go at low speed, and if you replace the iron with metal and plastic, it will be invisible. In addition, it will go along the magnetic fields of the earth and fall approximately, with a small error. The question is the price of 1000 pieces and we are not victorious (against the USA) This is really a real weapon against which it is almost impossible to defend itself, and not fairy tales about electronic warfare (they are also needed) that turn off ships.
    1. Lerych
      Lerych 17 May 2018 14: 45
      0
      Why with a "small margin of error"? From a depth of one km at this speed, you can very accurately get to the desired point of the doomed aircraft carrier. What will he stop her with depth bombs?
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 17 May 2018 14: 52
        0
        It is necessary to put sensors to determine that it is an aircraft carrier. It is expensive and ineffective. I'm talking about the passive regime for destroying the coastline, without support the aircraft carrier will somehow collapse.
        1. Lerych
          Lerych 17 May 2018 15: 26
          0
          I do not think that sensors and other are not provided for in Poseidon. It makes no sense to smash the bank with such a thing. That is the Strategic Missile Forces. If you run from Vladik to California, how much will it creep? The war will end. All this is done to suppress the advantage in AUG. There, most likely, everything is imprisoned for this.
  12. Cympak
    Cympak 17 May 2018 14: 39
    0
    2 Megatons is for work on the areas, i.e. with low accuracy
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 May 2018 15: 23
      0
      Quote: Cympak
      2 Megatons is for work on the areas, i.e. with low accuracy

      Just with accuracy, Poseidon should have everything good and a CW, I think it will be in a radius of 50 meters, if not less.
  13. Kerensky
    Kerensky 17 May 2018 14: 42
    0
    Good tidings. But to me, for some reason, the North does not give rest - something is up there ... That's the submarine as a carrier. And the adversary's icebreakers are based on a couple of bases. If Poseidons catch them at the bases, goodbye to the operation!
    1. Lerych
      Lerych 17 May 2018 15: 34
      +1
      Don’t worry about the North.:) In Norilsk, such exercises last year passed, what a shock! Landing - marines, multiple launch rocket systems, tanks. The sailors of the North Sea - well done, all under two meters, discipline - iron. We walked around the city. They promised to do the same this year .. The information is not secret. Everything was shown on TV.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 17 May 2018 15: 56
        0
        Do not worry about the North.

        For our North, I am calm. Something begins north of our coast. The partners ran in .... we do strange things.
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 May 2018 17: 17
        +4
        "We walked around the city." laughing
        The truth has been hidden from you - usually they move by dashes between bumps laughing drinks
  14. Cympak
    Cympak 17 May 2018 14: 42
    0
    And no one asked such a question what would happen if Kim dropped a container with a nuclear bomb from a cargo ship at sea near an American port or in its water area and blew it up. What then will be blamed?
  15. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 17 May 2018 15: 19
    0
    Extra call for the US and the UK ........
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 May 2018 16: 43
      +1
      What is there to trifle 2 Megatons - let's immediately 200, so that warheads are not wasted.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 18 May 2018 10: 57
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        let's immediately 200, so that no warheads are wasted
        Precisely, cheaper than 2 for 100Mt than 100 for 2Mt, because the main cost of the warheads is in the plutonium initiator, and in a three-stage 100Mt scheme they need only 3.
  16. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 17 May 2018 15: 42
    0
    will be able to go to the target at an intercontinental range at a depth of more than one kilometer at a speed of up to 130 km / h
    the hunch bent, it’s on what engine can he do that? 70 knots under water and even at an intercontinental range, and a depth of more than a kilometer, it somehow sounds fantastic
    1. Lerych
      Lerych 17 May 2018 16: 45
      +1
      Well, the engine is a compact nuclear installation. This is already voiced. Speed ​​- Flurry moves much faster. So they crossed. Depths added. Brains added. It turned out Poseidon. Our World - 1 and World - 2 for Cameron Titanic drowned shot. There is technology. Why not doubt it?
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 17 May 2018 16: 57
        +1
        A flurry in a cloud of gas flies rather than floats; this is impossible at the intercontinental range. And with an ordinary screw of 70 knots, it should be in the form of an ordinary torpedo - long and thin.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 May 2018 16: 46
      +1
      On ordinary screw travel, to reduce resistance - the nose will be pointed.
    3. Clueless
      Clueless 17 May 2018 17: 14
      0
      and what is fiction then? Power to one place :)) The main thing is that this power does not go into the pipe
  17. Clueless
    Clueless 17 May 2018 17: 14
    +1
    Who has acquaintances in the ministry, I throw an idea;)
    Let this thing tow nuclear explosive bombs, and discard them where necessary, before use. Such a train, current under water - it will be more economical than detonating a torpedo with a nuclear installation
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 18 May 2018 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Bad
      Let this thing tow nuclear explosive bombs, and dump them where necessary, before use
      And on towed land mines, position the rudders along the pitch and yaw - so that the train does not catch on the snags when passing near the bottom. Management of towed landmines - along the Kevlar cable with fiber optic lines.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 21 May 2018 13: 52
        0

        Options for power supply for towed thermonuclear explosive bombs:
        - from Poseidon via flexible conductive cable,
        - hydroturbines - electric generators and rechargeable rechargeable uninterruptible power supplies (UPS) located on towed land mines.
        - through a rigid automatic coupler by means of hermetic docking units, fixed to the HE mines with pyro bolts.
        A towed train is assembled, alternately hooking up nuclear mines with rear propellers to the automatic coupling unit.
        After delivering landmines to specified points on the sea, Poseidon can return to the base for the next portion of landmines.
  18. aKtoR
    aKtoR 17 May 2018 18: 18
    +2
    I would like to note that the submarine "Khabarovsk" (as noted in the booklet long ago - the carrier 6 SPA (self-propelled underwater vehicles)), most likely, will not be included in the GU GU (Main Directorate of Deep-Water Research), since there were no representatives on its tab this control (earlier on the tab of their boats were present).

    In a report to the President of the Russian Federation, the head of Sevmash called this submarine strategic, although it, like the submarine "Ash" belong to the multi-purpose. Consequently, the submarine "Khabarovsk" can solve strategic problems of destruction of enemy targets, like SSBNs with SLBMs. Only her spa is not included in the overall offset for START-3.

    Above was the message that such systems can be put on any submarine. Unfortunately, this is not the case. To install a spa equipped with a special warhead, a global rework of existing submarines is required, which is not economically viable. It is easier to build new specialized boats, with an increased depth of immersion (up to 1200м), on which the submarine can detect aircraft carriers at a distance of 1000-2000 km. To detect large AUG ships at such distances, large volumes will be required for the installation of fundamentally new equipment. Of course, a significant number of spas must be equipped with conventional warheads. And to hit naval bases and industrial centers is not necessarily precisely with AUG. This can be done in the event of the start of World War 3, launching strategic SPAs from bases near our territory
  19. -ш-
    -ш- 17 May 2018 19: 47
    0
    oh sorry not 200
  20. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 17 May 2018 20: 30
    0
    Carry and dispose in shipping containers as needed.
  21. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 May 2018 22: 38
    0
    The idea of ​​Poseidon is completely crazy. In the style of the prodigy “Weapon of Retribution”.
    Why not dream about bacteriological weapons? Or make earthquakes?
    Blow up a large volcano so that the whole planet is covered in ash? Deprive Earth of the atmosphere? Poison the oceans?
    "Poseidon" - finely somehow. Slightly mischief the adversary.
    1. Cook
      Cook 18 May 2018 10: 42
      +2
      You somehow lose sight of the fact that Poseidon is a deterrent, not an attack. The adversary should clearly be aware that in the case of sudden movements, no one will have a chance. Americans regularly assess the potential damage from a mutual attack while it is deemed unacceptable. As for small, not small, so port-to-port strife. Imagine the effect, for example, of the fact that the naval base in Norfolk will be destroyed, with the command of the fleet, shipyards, etc. So there is nothing delusional in this idea, given the fact that the factor of surprise. And let them come up with countermeasures, losing time and money on this.
  22. Old26
    Old26 18 May 2018 13: 55
    +1
    Everything in this world is passing ....
    So our "superdivays" began to gradually dry out. It all started with the infamous “Status-6”. There were 100 megatons and 100 knots of stroke, a dyne of 20 with a penny meters and a diameter of 1,6 meters
    Now Poseidon has already shrunk to 2 Mt and 70 knots. I won’t be surprised that by the time he is put on duty it will become clear that he has a speed of 50 angles, an immersion depth of 300-500 meters, and a nuclear warhead of 5 kilotons, not more. The dimensions and diameter will dry out, most likely to standard torpedo sizes ......

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    Quote: AUL
    At a speed of 130 km / h (almost 90 knots) it will roar throughout the ocean.

    At a depth of a kilometer, it doesn’t matter at all, since there is no means of intercepting such a torpedo at such a depth, going at such a speed. Moreover, where did you get the idea that it would roar?

    Have the laws of physics been canceled? At a certain speed, there will be a certain noise. In addition, the type of mover is still unknown and is it free to work at depths of 1 km

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    Quote: Cympak
    2 Megatons is for work on the areas, i.e. with low accuracy

    Just with accuracy, Poseidon should have everything good and a CW, I think it will be in a radius of 50 meters, if not less.

    Why would this product have a KVO of 50 meters ??? Any ANN has an accumulation of errors per hour. If an airplane or a CR is capable of compensating for an ANN error by other means, in particular a GPS or using the satellites of a navigation system, then how will a “torpedo” going at a depth of 1 km, and even at that speed, do it?

    Quote: Lerych
    Well, the engine is a compact nuclear installation. This is already voiced. Speed ​​- Flurry moves much faster. So they crossed. Depths added. Brains added. It turned out Poseidon. Our World - 1 and World - 2 for Cameron Titanic drowned shot. There is technology. Why not doubt it?

    This is the engine. And what is the mover that will allow her to develop such a speed ???

    Quote: Cympak
    And no one asked such a question what would happen if Kim dropped a container with a nuclear bomb from a cargo ship at sea near an American port or in its water area and blew it up. What then will be blamed?

    And no one wondered how, under the conditions of the sea blockade and the inspection of suspicious ships, such a container would pass through the cordon of the blockade ships? And who will let a ship of such a country enter the port?
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      NEXUS 18 May 2018 19: 18
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      Quote: Old26
      In addition, the type of mover is still unknown.

      VOOT. This is about dviguna.
      Quote: Old26
      and is he free to work at depths of 1 km

      I think I can. And otherwise, what the hell is this development?
      Quote: Old26
      it’s how, in what way the “torpedo” going at a depth of 1 km, and even at such a speed, will do it.

      I have thoughts on this ... hmm ... the harpsichord drone is able to monitor and examine the bottom. According to this intelligence, you can draw up a bottom map, and plot a route for Poseidon (flight mission, so to speak) based on the data received. I see it this way. Maybe I'm wrong.
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 18 May 2018 22: 33
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      compensate for ANN error
      It is possible, for example, to compensate for the ANN error by placing autonomous beacons powered by RTGs along the trajectory of the seabed at the bottom of the sea. These beacons are able to respond with sounds only to a given code sequence of sonar impulses located on Poseidon. Taking the response from these underwater lighthouses, Poseidon will compensate for the error of its ANN. It is assumed that the coordinates of the locations of the underwater lighthouses are known to Poseidon.
  23. Old26
    Old26 18 May 2018 22: 03
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    Quote: NEXUS
    I think I can. And otherwise, what the hell is this development?

    Only now we do not know how much what is being broadcast is true. From movers, a similar speed of 65-70 knots can be developed by a water cannon. But can he work at an external pressure of 100 atmospheres. There are so many questions to these superdevices that reluctance to voice

    Quote: NEXUS
    I have thoughts on this ... hmm ... the harpsichord drone is able to monitor and examine the bottom. According to this intelligence, you can draw up a bottom map, and plot a route for Poseidon (flight mission, so to speak) based on the data received. I see it this way. Maybe I'm wrong.

    Andrei! the idea is certainly interesting, but not feasible from a technical point of view.
    A bottom map can be made up, digital. But the bottom is not something frozen like a stone. Bottom changes will go on and on. This is the first.
    The second rests against the Harpsichord itself. The speed of this unit is about 5 km / h. The area of ​​the seas and oceans far exceeds the area of ​​land. I do not think that there is a digital map of the entire surface of the Earth. Otherwise, what for would need correction zones. Obtaining such a card is not technically possible. Imagine how many thousands, if not millions of square kilometers, you will have to shoot without a guarantee that in a week or six months the bottom topography will not change and the map will turn out to be obsolete