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Two "Syrian" "Varshavyanki" can get docked in a friendly country

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Two submarines of the Black Sea fleet Project 636.3 Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino, located in the Mediterranean for a long time, may soon be repaired in one of the friendly countries of the region, Interfax reports citing a military-diplomatic source.


Two "Syrian" "Varshavyanki" can get docked in a friendly country


There are three ways to solve the problem - either returning the boats to the manufacturing plant (Admiralty Shipyards, St. Petersburg), or sending to the logistics point of the Russian Navy in the Syrian Tartus floating dock, or docking in one of the friendly countries The mediterranean
- he explained.

According to him, "the third option is considered preferable in terms of cost savings and resource boats and is in the works, especially since the Navy of a number of countries in the region are armed with submarines of this and similar projects."

Earlier it was reported that the carriers of the Calibr-PL cruise missiles of the Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino submarines remained on a permanent basis as part of the Permanent Operational Connection of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea. According to the available information, thanks to the capabilities of the PMTO in Tartus, their ammunition was reloaded, and in March-April the first rotation of the crews took place.
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  1. Hire
    Hire 17 May 2018 12: 39
    +5
    A "friendly" is not Egypt? Who, besides France, has docks there?
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 17 May 2018 12: 44
      +8
      especially since the Navy of several countries of the region is armed with submarines of this and similar projects. "

      There are no Russian submarines in Egypt; they ordered German ones. Most likely Algeria is meant. They have two "Halibut 877" and two "Warsaw 636"
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 17 May 2018 12: 55
      +6
      in the near future they can get up for repairs in one of the friendly countries of the region, Interfax reports citing a military-diplomatic source.

      Colleagues! I am "far from the sea", explain what to repair there, they are new. EMNIP, put into operation a year ago. hi
      1. sir_obs
        sir_obs 17 May 2018 13: 17
        +6
        Colleagues! I am "far from the sea", explain what to repair there, they are new. EMNIP, put into operation a year ago.


        Depending on what repair is supposed.

        Emergency repair
        Emergency repair is an unscheduled repair of a vessel that is performed to eliminate the causes and consequences of damage caused by an accident. The volume and complexity of the work depends on whether it can be carried out by repair shops, a repair enterprise or the personnel of the ship.

        Warranty repair
        Warranty repairs are carried out by the forces and means of the builder or repair contractor during the warranty period to restore the properties of the ship to the values ​​specified in the regulatory and technical documentation for construction or repair.

        Dock repair
        Dock repair - repair of the underwater part of the ship (at the boat the whole part is underwater), occurring in the dock or on a slip. During the dock repair, the hull protection against corrosion and fouling is restored, the necessary examinations and examinations are carried out, and the identified defects of the underwater hull, propulsion and steering complex, bottom-side equipment and other parts of the underwater hull are not repaired, repair of which is not afloat can be produced. It is carried out by the forces and means of shipyards, workshops with the involvement of ship personnel.

        Cross passage repair
        The ship’s inter-passage repair is carried out between long trips in order to restore the ship’s combat readiness, eliminate malfunctions identified during the campaign, as well as to carry out routine maintenance. This type of repair, as a rule, is carried out by the ship workshops of the connection and the personnel of the ship with the involvement of shipyards and repair facilities of the fleet for the most complex work.

        Navigation repair
        Navigational repair is carried out by conducting timely routine inspections and works and repairing or replacing worn or resource-exhausted parts and components of weapons and technical equipment. It is carried out by the personnel of the ship and workshops with the involvement of ship repair enterprises, if necessary.

        Preventive maintenance
        Preventive maintenance is carried out in order to prevent wear and timely detection of malfunctions of weapons and technical equipment, and to carry out preventive maintenance provided for by the operating instructions. This type of repair is carried out by personnel with the involvement of ship repair workshops for the performance of individual works.

        Medium Repair
        The average repair of the ship is carried out in order to restore the properties of the ship to the specified values ​​with the replacement and (or) restoration of weapons, equipment and hull structures. It is produced by ship repair enterprises with the involvement of the personnel of the ship for the performance of individual works.

        Maintenance
        The purpose of the current repair is to maintain the properties of the ship within the specified limits with the replacement and (or) restoration of individual wearing equipment and hull structures. Repair is carried out by ship repair enterprises; ship personnel may be involved in certain operations.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 17 May 2018 18: 54
          0
          Quote: sir_obs
          sir_obs (Boris) Today, 13:17 ↑ New
          Colleagues! I am "far from the sea", explain what to repair there, they are new. EMNIP, put into operation a year ago.
          Depending on what repair is supposed.

          It turns out that in the Black Sea there is no base for repair of submarines? And how are they going to exploit them? Drive to St. Petersburg or Algeria? It is time to restore competence in Sevastopol.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 17 May 2018 20: 02
            +4
            There is a base for repair at the World Cup. But there is a Montreux convention. According to it, if the submarines enter the World Cup, then they can get out of them only for repair. That is, unlike the frigates, our deaths cannot just go to the Mediterranean on combat duty from the Black Sea. Therefore, the last two of our Varshavyanki do not leave for Sevastopol. If they enter the World Cup, they will not quit. However, they have been on the campaign for almost a year now. Plus participation in the database. Submarines need at least that. Crews need a break. But for now, we need a dap in Middle-earth. That’s why they’re looking for where to go somewhere in the middle-earth. Most likely we are talking about Egypt or Algeria. request
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 17 May 2018 19: 46
          +4
          Quote: sir_obs
          Dock repair
          Dock repair - repair of the underwater part of the ship (at the boat the whole part is underwater), occurring in the dock or on a slip. During the dock repair, the hull protection against corrosion and fouling is restored, the necessary examinations and examinations are carried out, and the identified defects of the underwater hull, propulsion and steering complex, bottom-side equipment and other parts of the underwater hull are not repaired, repair of which is not afloat can be produced. It is carried out by the forces and means of shipyards, workshops with the involvement of ship personnel.

          Boris, hi . Download and I can. There are regulations and terms for repairs with docking. This is a serious thing. So factory problems ?! The boats are new.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 18 May 2018 02: 51
            +2
            Quote: kapitan92
            Quote: sir_obs
            Dock repair
            Dock repair - repair of the underwater part of the ship (at the boat the whole part is underwater), occurring in the dock or on a slip. During the dock repair, the hull protection against corrosion and fouling is restored, the necessary examinations and examinations are carried out, and the identified defects of the underwater hull, propulsion and steering complex, bottom-side equipment and other parts of the underwater hull are not repaired, repair of which is not afloat can be produced. It is carried out by the forces and means of shipyards, workshops with the involvement of ship personnel.

            Boris, hi . Download and I can. There are regulations and terms for repairs with docking. This is a serious thing. So factory problems ?! The boats are new.

            right above you is a comment that does not need to be supplemented ... everything is clear and to the point ... the whole problem is in the convention !!! request request soldier soldier soldier
  2. Professor
    Professor 17 May 2018 12: 45
    +7
    You are welcome to repair in Haifa. Beer at my expense. drinks
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 17 May 2018 12: 49
      +5
      Then, you are bankrupt!))
    2. Hire
      Hire 17 May 2018 12: 55
      +6
      Quote: Professor
      You are welcome to repair in Haifa. Beer at my expense. drinks

      Fig you. Then you will not pay.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 May 2018 12: 55
      +5
      Quote: Professor
      You are welcome to repair in Haifa.

      Oleg! When you order our boats, and not German, then we will be docked with you. And then the crate dial in the dock do not get it!
      Quote: Professor
      Beer at my expense.
      For beer only deutschers are conducted ... Russians are usually lured with vodka. laughing
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 May 2018 12: 59
        +7
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Oleg! When you order our boats, and not German, then we will be docked with you. And then the crate dial in the dock do not get it!

        At our shipyard in Haifa, Russian is the official language. We will fix the boats, they will be better than new ones.

        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        For beer only deutschers are conducted ... Russians are usually lured with vodka.

        I have a brewery. I’m not making vodka yet. I’m sorry. hi
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 17 May 2018 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          At our shipyard in Haifa, Russian is the official language. We fix the boats will be better than new

          Allies will not understand us. You first with the Syrians and Iranians somehow "settle down"
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 17 May 2018 13: 08
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          We will fix the boats, they will be better than new ones.

          Oleg! The main thing is that extra details do not appear after repair ... yes And then at the appointed time and you won’t know why it fell into the depths.
          By the way, remember how long you looked for your "suddenly" missing boat ... recourse
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 May 2018 13: 14
            +3
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            By the way, remember how long you looked for your "suddenly" missing boat ...

            In those days when she disappeared, finding a boat was not easy. Yes, and you do not have all the boats found. It is important that they are found and perpetuated.


            And about the “superfluous”, we don’t put anything superfluous in the drones. We have a reputation as a reliable partner.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 17 May 2018 13: 19
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              we don’t put anything extra in drones.

              So there simply was not enough space .... And here - in tanks, partitions, under rubber, etc. - unmeasured !!!
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 May 2018 13: 36
                +1
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                So there simply was not enough space .... And here - in tanks, partitions, under rubber, etc. - unmeasured !!!

                We do not need to quarrel with Vova.

                Quote: Vadivak
                We’ll grab vodka, so where do you say to get laid?

                Here
        3. Vadivak
          Vadivak 17 May 2018 13: 21
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          I have a brewery. I’m not making vodka yet. I’m sorry.

          We’ll grab vodka, so where do you say to get laid?
        4. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 17 May 2018 16: 40
          0
          On an industrial scale or at home?
  3. alexmach
    alexmach 17 May 2018 12: 51
    0
    I don’t quite understand, but in Sevastopol or Balpklava there is no suitable dock?
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 17 May 2018 12: 59
      0
      The distance to Algeria is almost the same, respectively, there is already a military-political moment.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 17 May 2018 13: 10
        0
        What is the moment? Show that we can go to someone's port for docking? Well, okay, too.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 18 May 2018 02: 53
      +2
      Quote: alexmach
      I don’t quite understand, but in Sevastopol or Balpklava there is no suitable dock?

      g1v2 (Vitaliy) Yesterday, 20:02 ↑
      There is a base for repair at the World Cup. But there is a Montreux convention. According to it, if the submarines enter the World Cup, then they can get out of them only for repair. That is, unlike the frigates, our deaths cannot just go to the Mediterranean on combat duty from the Black Sea. Therefore, the last two of our Varshavyanki do not leave for Sevastopol. If they enter the World Cup, they will not quit. However, they have been on the campaign for almost a year now. Plus participation in the database. Submarines need at least that. Crews need a break. But for now, we need a dap in Middle-earth. That’s why they’re looking for where to go somewhere in the middle-earth. Most likely we are talking about Egypt or Algeria. request
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 18 May 2018 09: 43
        0
        A cursory analysis of the Wikipedia article about the convention did not find anything similar, but after looking at the history of the service of the submarines - indeed, those that entered the Black Sea did not leave it anymore. The explanation is a bit strange but logical.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 18 May 2018 21: 43
          +2
          Quote: alexmach
          A cursory analysis of the Wikipedia article about the convention did not find anything similar, but after looking at the history of the service of the submarines - indeed, those that entered the Black Sea did not leave it anymore. The explanation is a bit strange but logical.

          here chikipedia will not help .... you need to take the whole convention and read !!! request request
  4. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 May 2018 12: 52
    +2
    By the way, in Russia, a dock is not always needed to repair the underwater part of a ship. I just watched a documentary on YouTube about the freezing of ships in Yakutia, about the profession of a frostbite, a very interesting film and very ... how to say it ... a very specific, atmospheric film.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 18 May 2018 03: 20
      +2
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      By the way, in Russia, a dock is not always needed to repair the underwater part of a ship. I just watched a documentary on YouTube about the freezing of ships in Yakutia, about the profession of a frostbite, a very interesting film and very ... how to say it ... a very specific, atmospheric film.

      belay belay fascinating vidos ... not a single second spent watching is not a pity !!! good good good and the profession is finally amazing !!! wassat good good good
  5. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 17 May 2018 12: 52
    0
    Most likely, this is Egypt or Algeria. Algeria, more likely.
  6. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 17 May 2018 12: 57
    +1
    Quote: alexmach
    I don’t quite understand, but in Sevastopol or Balpklava there is no suitable dock?

    It's written
    According to him, "the third option is considered preferable from the point of view of saving money and the resource of boats and is being worked out
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 17 May 2018 13: 12
      +1
      Well, here Algeria is mentioned - here, to Algeria, from Syria is definitely no closer than to Sevastopol. And obviously it will not be cheaper. To drive to the Admeralt shipyards is certainly a bust.
  7. saveall
    saveall 17 May 2018 13: 05
    +1
    Is this a scheduled repair or what? I mean, just service ... Brand new boats what
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 May 2018 13: 23
      +2
      Quote: saveall
      Is this a scheduled repair or what? I mean, just service ... Brand new boats what

      Do new cars need scheduled maintenance? Regular work is also carried out on planes (I know about heavy ones) every 100 hours of flight, regardless of their condition.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 18 May 2018 03: 21
      +2
      Quote: saveall
      Is this a scheduled repair or what? I mean, just service ... Brand new boats what

      g1v2 (Vitaliy) Yesterday, 20:02 ↑
      There is a base for repair at the World Cup. But there is a Montreux convention. According to it, if the submarines enter the World Cup, then they can get out of them only for repair. That is, unlike the frigates, our deaths cannot just go to the Mediterranean on combat duty from the Black Sea. Therefore, the last two of our Varshavyanki do not leave for Sevastopol. If they enter the World Cup, they will not quit. However, they have been on the campaign for almost a year now. Plus participation in the database. Submarines need at least that. Crews need a break. But for now, we need a dap in Middle-earth. That’s why they’re looking for where to go somewhere in the middle-earth. Most likely we are talking about Egypt or Algeria. request
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  9. PSN10
    PSN10 17 May 2018 14: 13
    0
    I doubt very much about Algeria. Now Ramadan has begun, and in Oran (where there is a floating dock) they do not work very well for the Feast. And again, why do boats shine before the French.
  10. 22 dmdc
    22 dmdc 17 May 2018 14: 58
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    We have a reputation as a reliable partner.

    Your reputation is known throughout the galaxy.
  11. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 17 May 2018 15: 45
    0
    Is something broken?
  12. Old26
    Old26 18 May 2018 11: 52
    +2
    Quote: g1v2
    There is a base for repair at the World Cup. But there is a Montreux convention. According to it, if the submarines enter the World Cup, then they can get out of them only for repair.

    Vitaliy! do not come up with. Boats of the countries of the Black Sea basin can enter and leave the Black Sea when they need it. The only condition is the passage through the straits above the surface and for a certain period of time (day, EMNIP, or two)
    But the boats of the countries of the non-Black Sea basin generally have no right to enter the Black Sea except for the only condition. When they go for repairs to the country that delivered them these boats. That is, if Romania, for example, or Ukraine sells submarines to someone, then they can go to the ports of these countries for repairs in the Black Sea. In other cases, no

    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
    right above you is a comment that does not need to be supplemented ... everything is clear and to the point ... the whole problem is in the convention !!!

    True, the author seems to have only heard about this convention, but did not read it, otherwise he would not have written such nonsense
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 18 May 2018 23: 34
      0
      some kind of strange news, strange.