No his - put the Israeli. US plans to establish active protection for Abrams and Bradley

The U.S. Army Command intends to equip the main combat Tanks M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles with active defense systems. According to Breaking Defense, the armored vehicles of four tank brigades designed for military deployment abroad will receive new systems.

For installation on M1 Abrams tanks, the US military chose the Israeli Trophy active defense system; It is she who is serially put on Merkava. The US Army conducted tests of this system on M1A1 tanks and Stryker wheeled combat armored vehicles from the 2015 of the year. At the same time tested the system planned to hold the US Marine Corps. Tests conducted by army experts were recognized as successful; Based on their results, the military decided to install the Trophy on the tanks.

At the same time, the Trophy system was declared unsuitable for installation on the relatively light Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. These armored vehicles should get a lighter and more compact Iron Fist Light active protection system, also an Israeli design. This system has been tested by Americans since 2016. The Israelis themselves were planning to put the Iron Fist on heavy Namer armored personnel carriers, but ultimately decided to adapt the Trophy tank system for these vehicles.

Currently, the US Army has organized nine active tank brigades, the number of which is planned to be increased to ten in the near future. In addition, five more brigades operate as part of the National Guard. Each brigade has 4,7 thousands of people, as well as 87 tanks M1 and 144 Bradley armored vehicles. In addition, the tank brigades include 18 self-propelled howitzers M109, 18 self-propelled mortars, 84 calculations with anti-tank missiles FGM-148 Javelin, 450 tracked vehicles and 900 wheeled vehicles.

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

About four brigades, something you Messrs. Swung. As far as we know, we are talking about one tank brigade.

[oleg-gr]

Finance will be allocated to four teams. Equip one. The rest is premium. Normal situation for lobbyists.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: oleg-gr

Finance will be allocated to four teams. Equip one. The rest is premium. Normal situation for lobbyists.

in common people this is called general corruption !!!

[Merold]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

About four brigades, something you Messrs. Swung. As far as we know, we are talking about one tank brigade.

No, about four.

The US Army is already buying the Israeli Trophy APS for every M1 heavy tank in four armored brigades slated for early deployment to a crisis. (Three brigades are in the 2019 budget, one in 2018). But those brigades also include hundreds of M2 Bradleys, medium-weight troop carriers with significant armament and armor but little spare capacity to handle further upgrades. Instead of Trophy, which was built for tanks, the Army is testing an APS called Iron Fist Light, also Israeli, on the Bradleys.

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[sabakina]

Do not argue with Aron, he receives information first hand.

[Merold]

Quote: sabakina

Do not argue with Aron, he receives information first hand.

He has already corrected the comment, but I saw it too late and now I can’t delete my irrelevant one.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Elk

But the Negro loader in Abrams are not going to change the Jew?

Not yet.
I apologize to the administration. Really four.
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This is the trick.

[Elk]

There, in the photo, the iron dome on the striker turns it into something from the world of crazy Max

[Shurik70]

In the photo - "Bradley", which hung on the blocks of dynamic defense and Trophy.
Probably a test. It is not surprising that they were recognized as unsuccessful. This is how much weight.

[Maz]

A good machine for a defensive war in the desert

[gladcu2]

How to motivate him?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: gladcu2

How to motivate him?

Remove and take out the tracks. If you want - defend yourself, if you don’t want - the head will be cut off ...

[voyaka uh]

The trophy on Abrams looks like this:

[Merold]

Quote: voyaka uh

The trophy on Abrams looks like this:

And they are testing their own. The Iron Curtain on Stryker.

[voyaka uh]

And on Merkava-4 for comparison, like this:

[Maz]

They simply could not develop their own.

[gladcu2]

Cooperation.

There is no point in developing if I already do everything.

There have been serious problems with article titles in recent times. Too much national egoism.

[Des10]

Quote: gladcu2

There have been serious problems with article titles in recent times. Too much national egoism.

mind and rationalism would - add, all used to win.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: gladcu2

Cooperation.
There is no point in developing if I already do everything.

in a strange way in relation to Russia, it is immediately called a failure in industry, the economy, etc., etc. !!! and here it’s like - cooperation and there is no point in developing !!!

[cats]

Quote: Des10

they just took the best.)

C'mon .. In your ancient trash, there’s nothing to even hang ..
Have to put what the Jews in the union stole ..

[Des10]

Quote: Kotovsky

Have to put what the Jews in the union stole ..

pzhlsta, confirm your words - especially with such a double smile.

[cats]

I give a tooth .. I will not see a century of will ..
Will go?

[Des10]

Quote: Kotovsky

I give a tooth .. I will not see a century of will .. Will it?

so your teeth

[Razvedka_Boem]

Recently I watched a feature film about BMD Bradley - "The Pentagon Wars."
It is shown how they took it into service - 17 years and $ 14 billion for development and testing.
And the Air Force Colonel involved in the tests is not allowed to conduct normal tests of its security. There is ammunition with sand inside instead of gunpowder and water in fuel tanks instead of fuel, etc., etc.

[nikoliski]

I saw a report where Putin swore at the generals saying why don’t you put Arena E on equipment? they only slam their eyes and are silent (and the money allocated for it) to see the fat-beloved generals more important than the pace of building personal mansions than the safety of our tanks (for so many years after Chechnya, when they successfully tested the Arena on the tank (survived 18 shots from RPGs and the tank left safely move) could at least a thousand tanks be equipped with this complex? so far, except for the curtain, which is useless against uncontrolled RPG grenades (it only interferes with laser-guided missiles), they don’t put anything on the tanks at all ... By the way, about the Curtain the Greeks tested it on their T80 by irradiating it doesn’t work like that with a Leopard range finder! it only works from a range finder of the same T80 and from some ATGMs (those that launch a missile of a different type, for example, Javellyn Shtore absolutely to the point of failure until the destruction of the tank)

[Vadivak]

Quote: nikoliski

Putin swore at the generals saying why don’t you put Arena E on equipment? they only slam eyes and silently

What is such an arena?

[nikoliski]

Arena E last modification of the KAZ Arena removed the shortcomings of option 1 (although I am crucified, google to help)

[cats]

Quote: nikoliski

could at least a thousand tanks be equipped with this complex?

Somehow you took it finely, a thousand of everything .. Then some without pants are ready to walk,
but they say give the aircraft carrier, yes quickly .. And if you listen to every specialist ..

[farcop]

If we don’t have ours, we’ll put an Israeli one.

What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

[cats]

Quote: farcop

What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

He buys, but on his new tanks .. At the same time, some grumble, others quail.
Do not strain, now it's our turn ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Quote: farcop

What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

He buys, but on his new tanks .. At the same time, some grumble, others quail.
Do not strain, now it's our turn ..

Especially UAV

[cats]

Quote: farcop

Especially UAV

The professor below answered this ..
Toys and all sorts of rides, let those who do serious things
mind is not enough ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

The professor below answered this.

Duck then you pay for them in full !!! Yes, and you are trying to copy, and pay for this too. For beads and sparkles.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

Duck you pay for them in full

Well, we’re not some kind of charlatans, technologies to steal,
honestly paying. That's what you will do when
what the stolen alliance will end .. Striped already all
Soviet developments used, now crumbs for allies
collect.
You need to think with your own head.

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Technology

What technology? In your opinion, these are pieces of plassmass, beads and sparkles. And you are a clean guy for that. How was paid for Manhattan? Who and to whom? Yeah, don’t shine. Kotovsky, don’t shine at all.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

What technology?

That is, you agree that bullshit is a toy ..

Quote: farcop

And you are a clean guy for that.

Jews only think about money ..
And we bought a lot of this stuff?

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Quote: farcop

What technology?

That is, you agree that bullshit is a toy ..

Quote: farcop

And you are a clean guy for that.

Jews only think about money .. And we bought a lot of this stuff?

Duc to whom and the mare bride. Which of the pieces of plastic UAV makes, and others of the pieces of plastic organize a public house. To, as they say, that.

Quote: Kotovsky

Jews only think about money ..

Gee Gee Gee, then you are one of the most non-donating countries in need, and Israel is one of the first. You have oil and natural resources and they have sand, but they feed you and not vice versa.

Quote: Kotovsky

And we bought a lot of this stuff?

This is just an example. And the reason, for sure, is such creative and productive people like you.

[cats]

Quote: farcop

and they

So you are not God's chosen?
Why is your butt burning like that?
Yes, and you have no arguments left, drooling alone.
Pokedova, hitch.

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

So you are not God's chosen?

Well, those who care? I am against animal anti-Semites, I believe that they are the whole world to themselves, to the animal pulled.

Quote: Kotovsky

Yes, and you have no arguments left, drooling alone.

Slilsi? Naturally. Well adieu Kotovsky but not brilliant ..

[brigadier]

For the sake of fairness, I note that Israel purchases a very decent amount of wheat in Russia. I watched about this broadcast on Israeli TV.

[cats]

Quote: brigadir

For the sake of fairness, I note

Well, why are you so, dear Mashak ..
Like a tub of cold water ..
Just think, but do we argue with the Jews ..

[lopvlad]

Israeli Trophy Active Defense System; it is it that is mass-produced on Merkava

so the Cornet complex makes a hole in Merkava without Vaseline.

[voyaka uh]

Not 100%, but breaks through in 30-50% of cases, approximately.
This was checked in a famous ambush on the column Merkava-4
in Lebanon in 2006. Merkava stood sideways on a narrow road near the gorge.
They shot through the gorge. Almost all the hits were on board the hull, where they aimed.
Breaks were in 1/3 of cases. Some tanks hit 2-4 missiles.
Mounted metal-ceramic. the rocket holds the plates, but they themselves are smashed to smithereens.
As a result of this disastrous battle, it was decided to equip all the Trophy tanks.
As they say, misfortune helped.

[Professor]

That is why I respect the Americans because it is for pragmatism and the lack of inferiority complexes. We need a good grenade launcher, bought by Carl Gustav. It should KAZ-bought Trfi. And most importantly, none of them shouts that the Superpower cannot itself create and buys from countries whose countries it is difficult to see a map.

[Mentat]

Quote: farcop

If we don’t have ours, we’ll put an Israeli one.

What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

Military technology? Does not buy. It exports finished products that are in high demand. Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.

[Professor]

Quote: Mentat

Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.

[cats]

Right professor, we buy toys and cars from those
who lacks the mind for serious things ..

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

Right professor, we buy toys and cars from those
who lacks the mind for serious things ..

Take the beads give the money. And who does this resemble?

[cats]

Quote: farcop

beads

So you agree that these are plastic toys ..
Open the professor’s eyes.

[farcop]

Quote: Kotovsky

plastic toys.

Duck then you pay for them in full !!! Yes, and you are trying to copy, and pay for this too. For beads and sparkles.

[lopvlad]

yes, it’s exclusively intelligence g bought from Israel "to see", then assembled from Israeli kits and now we completely sculpt from our parts, though we decided not to change the appearance of the case.
But now, Forpost in Russia is made entirely of Russian parts.
Russia now has a whole range of its drones, there are not only heavy impact drones like the American MQ-1 Predator but the problem is being solved.
The importance of drones, of course, should not be underestimated, but it should not be overestimated, so far no conflict can do without real manned aircraft, not a single drone can yet provide the combat load and speed of a manned aircraft.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

As one friend of mine says, if your son-in-law is Jewish, then the interests of Israel become your interests))) ...

[Professor]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

As one friend of mine says, if your son-in-law is Jewish, then the interests of Israel become your interests))) ...

He speaks correctly. Grandchildren are now Jews and anti-Semites do not care about halacha. Who will take care of these Jewish grandchildren, if not Israel?

[farcop]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

if you have a son-in-law jew

And daughter ...

[Serg78]

It’s interesting, how much heavier will these cars become? Will the engines and chassis withstand extra weight?

[svp67]

Quote: valcat

It has long been known that cooperation is high quality and cheaper production. Although the Russian Federation does not understand this, she has her own way ...

Of course. Especially "smart" Ukraine, in this matter. In which EVERY enterprise of the military-industrial complex worked for cooperation with the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, and she tore it all up, and when she didn’t have money, she blamed Russia ... “Smart” ... But “smart” further.

[cordon332]

Quote: Des10

pzhlsta, confirm your words - especially with such a double smile.

90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry

[farcop]

Quote: kordon332

90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry

Where are the statistics from?

[Totah155]

Quote: kordon332

90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry

Wrong

[cordon332]

Quote: voyaka uh

And on Merkava-4 for comparison, like this:

Reply Quote Complaint

These are sensors, and where are the mortars. It seems that this is an optoelectronic suppression system, not a SAZ

[Mentat]

Quote: professor

Quote: Mentat

Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.

Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture? Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts? This is what our pioneers in circles did. The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.
"Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.

[Professor]

Quote: Mentat

Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture?

Everywhere. The Russian Federation acquired not only samples of drones, but also the technology for their manufacture. We handed over blueprints, diagrams and the whole process.

Quote: Mentat

Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts?

Yeah. Only how to glue and how to make parts is called TECHNOLOGY.

Quote: Mentat

This is what our pioneers in circles did.

Is that why you paid us hundreds of millions of dollars?

Quote: Mentat

The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.

Do you understand what you wrote? Russia never bothered with copyrights and copied no worse than China. For example, Kalashnikov drones are a copy of the Orbiter. Kalashnikov is a master at copying. The license was acquired not at all because of the old design, but precisely because of the technology. Even your superiors openly declare this.

Quote: Mentat

"Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.

In your dreams, dear.

[Mentat]

Quote: professor

Quote: Mentat

Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture?

Everywhere. The Russian Federation acquired not only samples of drones, but also the technology for their manufacture. We handed over blueprints, diagrams and the whole process.

Quote: Mentat

Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts?

Yeah. Only how to glue and how to make parts is called TECHNOLOGY.

You can call it that. From this point of view, cutting a watermelon into slices is a technology for cutting a watermelon. But it was a little bit about something else, I’ll remind you, otherwise your memory in certain uncomfortable places immediately disappears: military technology, and in the context of the transfer of fairly complex systems.

Quote: Mentat

This is what our pioneers in circles did.

Is that why you paid us hundreds of millions of dollars?

They have already explained to you why this was done. Why your exclamation about hundreds of millions, do you think that we overpay, and your product does not correspond to the cost? I think if you will actively promote this idea, perhaps Russia will revise the terms of the deal.

Quote: Mentat

The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.

Do you understand what you wrote? Russia never bothered with copyrights and copied no worse than China. For example, Kalashnikov drones are a copy of the Orbiter. Kalashnikov is a master at copying. The license was acquired not at all because of the old design, but precisely because of the technology. Even your superiors openly declare this.

Where and what do they state? I'm afraid you intentionally mislead readers. It’s accepted to quote such things.
If you are outraged by some egregious fact of copying, and you can prove it, file a lawsuit.

Quote: Mentat

"Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.

In your dreams, dear.

About five times already. I still remember your unforgettable “antennas up”)