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No his - put the Israeli. US plans to establish active protection for Abrams and Bradley

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The U.S. Army Command intends to equip the main combat Tanks M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles with active defense systems. According to Breaking Defense, the armored vehicles of four tank brigades designed for military deployment abroad will receive new systems.


No his - put the Israeli. US plans to establish active protection for Abrams and Bradley


For installation on M1 Abrams tanks, the US military chose the Israeli Trophy active defense system; It is she who is serially put on Merkava. The US Army conducted tests of this system on M1A1 tanks and Stryker wheeled combat armored vehicles from the 2015 of the year. At the same time tested the system planned to hold the US Marine Corps. Tests conducted by army experts were recognized as successful; Based on their results, the military decided to install the Trophy on the tanks.

At the same time, the Trophy system was declared unsuitable for installation on the relatively light Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. These armored vehicles should get a lighter and more compact Iron Fist Light active protection system, also an Israeli design. This system has been tested by Americans since 2016. The Israelis themselves were planning to put the Iron Fist on heavy Namer armored personnel carriers, but ultimately decided to adapt the Trophy tank system for these vehicles.

Currently, the US Army has organized nine active tank brigades, the number of which is planned to be increased to ten in the near future. In addition, five more brigades operate as part of the National Guard. Each brigade has 4,7 thousands of people, as well as 87 tanks M1 and 144 Bradley armored vehicles. In addition, the tank brigades include 18 self-propelled howitzers M109, 18 self-propelled mortars, 84 calculations with anti-tank missiles FGM-148 Javelin, 450 tracked vehicles and 900 wheeled vehicles.
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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 16 May 2018 17: 46
    +5
    About four brigades, something you Messrs. Swung. As far as we know, we are talking about one tank brigade.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 16 May 2018 18: 24
      +4
      Finance will be allocated to four teams. Equip one. The rest is premium. Normal situation for lobbyists.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 16 May 2018 21: 31
        +3
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Finance will be allocated to four teams. Equip one. The rest is premium. Normal situation for lobbyists.

        in common people this is called general corruption !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
    2. Merold
      Merold 16 May 2018 18: 36
      +2
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      About four brigades, something you Messrs. Swung. As far as we know, we are talking about one tank brigade.

      No, about four.
      The US Army is already buying the Israeli Trophy APS for every M1 heavy tank in four armored brigades slated for early deployment to a crisis. (Three brigades are in the 2019 budget, one in 2018). But those brigades also include hundreds of M2 Bradleys, medium-weight troop carriers with significant armament and armor but little spare capacity to handle further upgrades. Instead of Trophy, which was built for tanks, the Army is testing an APS called Iron Fist Light, also Israeli, on the Bradleys.

      https://breakingdefense.com/2018/05/all-armored-b
      rigades-to-get-active-protection-systems-gen-mill
      ey /
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 16 May 2018 19: 09
        +4
        Do not argue with Aron, he receives information first hand.
        1. Merold
          Merold 16 May 2018 19: 43
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Do not argue with Aron, he receives information first hand.

          He has already corrected the comment, but I saw it too late and now I can’t delete my irrelevant one.
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    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 May 2018 17: 54
      +5
      Quote: Elk
      But the Negro loader in Abrams are not going to change the Jew?

      Not yet.
      I apologize to the administration. Really four.
      https://breakingdefense.com/2018/05/all-armored-b
      rigades-to-get-active-protection-systems-gen-mill
      ey /

      This is the trick. good wink
      1. Elk
        Elk 16 May 2018 18: 00
        +2
        There, in the photo, the iron dome on the striker turns it into something from the world of crazy Max
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 16 May 2018 18: 25
          +1
          In the photo - "Bradley", which hung on the blocks of dynamic defense and Trophy.
          Probably a test. It is not surprising that they were recognized as unsuccessful. This is how much weight.
      2. Maz
        Maz 16 May 2018 18: 33
        0
        A good machine for a defensive war in the desert
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 16 May 2018 18: 33
      +1
      How to motivate him?
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 16 May 2018 19: 39
        +1
        Quote: gladcu2
        How to motivate him?

        Remove and take out the tracks. If you want - defend yourself, if you don’t want - the head will be cut off ...
  3. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 May 2018 18: 04
    +9
    The trophy on Abrams looks like this:
    1. Merold
      Merold 16 May 2018 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The trophy on Abrams looks like this:

      And they are testing their own. The Iron Curtain on Stryker.

  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 May 2018 18: 09
    +9
    And on Merkava-4 for comparison, like this:
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    1. Maz
      Maz 16 May 2018 18: 34
      +2
      They simply could not develop their own.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 16 May 2018 18: 36
      +11
      Cooperation.

      There is no point in developing if I already do everything.

      There have been serious problems with article titles in recent times. Too much national egoism.
      1. Des10
        Des10 16 May 2018 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: gladcu2
        There have been serious problems with article titles in recent times. Too much national egoism.

        mind and rationalism would - add, all used to win.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 16 May 2018 21: 34
        +4
        Quote: gladcu2
        Cooperation.
        There is no point in developing if I already do everything.

        in a strange way in relation to Russia, it is immediately called a failure in industry, the economy, etc., etc. !!! what what and here it’s like - cooperation and there is no point in developing !!! wassat wassat lol lol
    3. cats
      cats 16 May 2018 21: 55
      +2
      Quote: Des10
      they just took the best.)

      C'mon .. In your ancient trash, there’s nothing to even hang .. lol
      Have to put what the Jews in the union stole .. tongue
      1. Des10
        Des10 17 May 2018 06: 15
        +1
        Quote: Kotovsky
        Have to put what the Jews in the union stole .. tongue

        pzhlsta, confirm your words - especially with such a double smile.
        1. cats
          cats 17 May 2018 09: 42
          0
          I give a tooth .. I will not see a century of will .. lol
          Will go?
          1. Des10
            Des10 17 May 2018 19: 18
            0
            Quote: Kotovsky
            I give a tooth .. I will not see a century of will .. Will it?

            so your teeth laughing
  6. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 16 May 2018 18: 36
    +1
    Recently I watched a feature film about BMD Bradley - "The Pentagon Wars."
    It is shown how they took it into service - 17 years and $ 14 billion for development and testing.
    And the Air Force Colonel involved in the tests is not allowed to conduct normal tests of its security. There is ammunition with sand inside instead of gunpowder and water in fuel tanks instead of fuel, etc., etc.

  7. nikoliski
    nikoliski 16 May 2018 18: 40
    +3
    I saw a report where Putin swore at the generals saying why don’t you put Arena E on equipment? they only slam their eyes and are silent (and the money allocated for it) to see the fat-beloved generals more important than the pace of building personal mansions than the safety of our tanks (for so many years after Chechnya, when they successfully tested the Arena on the tank (survived 18 shots from RPGs and the tank left safely move) could at least a thousand tanks be equipped with this complex? so far, except for the curtain, which is useless against uncontrolled RPG grenades (it only interferes with laser-guided missiles), they don’t put anything on the tanks at all ... By the way, about the Curtain the Greeks tested it on their T80 by irradiating it doesn’t work like that with a Leopard range finder! it only works from a range finder of the same T80 and from some ATGMs (those that launch a missile of a different type, for example, Javellyn Shtore absolutely to the point of failure until the destruction of the tank)
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 May 2018 18: 58
      +4
      Quote: nikoliski
      Putin swore at the generals saying why don’t you put Arena E on equipment? they only slam eyes and silently

      What is such an arena?
      1. nikoliski
        nikoliski 16 May 2018 21: 41
        0
        Arena E last modification of the KAZ Arena removed the shortcomings of option 1 (although I am crucified, google to help)
        1. cats
          cats 16 May 2018 21: 59
          0
          Quote: nikoliski
          could at least a thousand tanks be equipped with this complex?

          Somehow you took it finely, a thousand of everything .. Then some without pants are ready to walk,
          but they say give the aircraft carrier, yes quickly .. And if you listen to every specialist .. request
  8. farcop
    farcop 16 May 2018 19: 19
    +2
    If we don’t have ours, we’ll put an Israeli one.
    What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?
    1. cats
      cats 17 May 2018 09: 48
      0
      Quote: farcop
      What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

      He buys, but on his new tanks .. At the same time, some grumble, others quail.
      Do not strain, now it's our turn .. laughing
      1. farcop
        farcop 17 May 2018 10: 15
        0
        Quote: Kotovsky
        Quote: farcop
        What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

        He buys, but on his new tanks .. At the same time, some grumble, others quail.
        Do not strain, now it's our turn .. laughing
        Especially UAV bully bully bully
        1. cats
          cats 17 May 2018 10: 35
          0
          Quote: farcop
          Especially UAV

          The professor below answered this ..
          Toys and all sorts of rides, let those who do serious things
          mind is not enough .. hi
          1. farcop
            farcop 17 May 2018 10: 53
            0
            Quote: Kotovsky
            The professor below answered this.
            Duck then you pay for them in full !!! Yes, and you are trying to copy, and pay for this too. For beads and sparkles. laughing laughing
            1. cats
              cats 17 May 2018 11: 03
              0
              Quote: farcop
              Duck you pay for them in full

              Well, we’re not some kind of charlatans, technologies to steal,
              honestly paying. That's what you will do when
              what the stolen alliance will end .. Striped already all
              Soviet developments used, now crumbs for allies
              collect. lol
              You need to think with your own head. tongue
              1. farcop
                farcop 17 May 2018 11: 14
                0
                Quote: Kotovsky
                Technology
                What technology? In your opinion, these are pieces of plassmass, beads and sparkles. And you are a clean guy for that. How was paid for Manhattan? Who and to whom? Yeah, don’t shine. Kotovsky, don’t shine at all.
                1. cats
                  cats 17 May 2018 11: 17
                  0
                  Quote: farcop
                  What technology?

                  That is, you agree that bullshit is a toy ..
                  Quote: farcop
                  And you are a clean guy for that.

                  Jews only think about money ..
                  And we bought a lot of this stuff?
                  1. farcop
                    farcop 17 May 2018 11: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Kotovsky
                    Quote: farcop
                    What technology?
                    That is, you agree that bullshit is a toy ..
                    Quote: farcop
                    And you are a clean guy for that.

                    Jews only think about money .. And we bought a lot of this stuff?

                    Duc to whom and the mare bride. Which of the pieces of plastic UAV makes, and others of the pieces of plastic organize a public house. To, as they say, that.
                    Quote: Kotovsky
                    Jews only think about money ..
                    Gee Gee Gee, then you are one of the most non-donating countries in need, and Israel is one of the first. You have oil and natural resources and they have sand, but they feed you and not vice versa.
                    Quote: Kotovsky
                    And we bought a lot of this stuff?
                    This is just an example. And the reason, for sure, is such creative and productive people like you.
                    1. cats
                      cats 17 May 2018 11: 44
                      0
                      Quote: farcop
                      and they

                      So you are not God's chosen? request
                      Why is your butt burning like that?
                      Yes, and you have no arguments left, drooling alone.
                      Pokedova, hitch. hi
                    2. farcop
                      farcop 17 May 2018 11: 49
                      0
                      Quote: Kotovsky
                      So you are not God's chosen?
                      Well, those who care? I am against animal anti-Semites, I believe that they are the whole world to themselves, to the animal pulled.
                      Quote: Kotovsky
                      Yes, and you have no arguments left, drooling alone.
                      Slilsi? Naturally. Well adieu Kotovsky but not brilliant ..
                    3. brigadir
                      brigadir 17 May 2018 18: 39
                      0
                      For the sake of fairness, I note that Israel purchases a very decent amount of wheat in Russia. I watched about this broadcast on Israeli TV.
                      1. cats
                        cats 17 May 2018 19: 28
                        0
                        Quote: brigadir
                        For the sake of fairness, I note

                        Well, why are you so, dear Mashak ..
                        Like a tub of cold water ..
                        Just think, but do we argue with the Jews .. hi
  9. lopvlad
    lopvlad 16 May 2018 19: 55
    +1
    Israeli Trophy Active Defense System; it is it that is mass-produced on Merkava


    so the Cornet complex makes a hole in Merkava without Vaseline.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 May 2018 09: 58
      +3
      Not 100%, but breaks through in 30-50% of cases, approximately.
      This was checked in a famous ambush on the column Merkava-4
      in Lebanon in 2006. Merkava stood sideways on a narrow road near the gorge.
      They shot through the gorge. Almost all the hits were on board the hull, where they aimed.
      Breaks were in 1/3 of cases. Some tanks hit 2-4 missiles.
      Mounted metal-ceramic. the rocket holds the plates, but they themselves are smashed to smithereens.
      As a result of this disastrous battle, it was decided to equip all the Trophy tanks.
      As they say, misfortune helped.
  10. Professor
    Professor 16 May 2018 20: 02
    +7
    That is why I respect the Americans because it is for pragmatism and the lack of inferiority complexes. We need a good grenade launcher, bought by Carl Gustav. It should KAZ-bought Trfi. And most importantly, none of them shouts that the Superpower cannot itself create and buys from countries whose countries it is difficult to see a map.
  11. Mentat
    Mentat 16 May 2018 22: 46
    +1
    Quote: farcop
    If we don’t have ours, we’ll put an Israeli one.
    What's the problem? Russia does not buy any miscellaneous which is missing?

    Military technology? Does not buy. It exports finished products that are in high demand. Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.
    1. Professor
      Professor 17 May 2018 06: 57
      +2
      Quote: Mentat
      Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.

      1. cats
        cats 17 May 2018 09: 51
        0
        Right professor, we buy toys and cars from those
        who lacks the mind for serious things .. wink
        1. farcop
          farcop 17 May 2018 10: 18
          +3
          Quote: Kotovsky
          Right professor, we buy toys and cars from those
          who lacks the mind for serious things .. wink
          Take the beads give the money. And who does this resemble? bully laughing bully
          1. cats
            cats 17 May 2018 10: 37
            0
            Quote: farcop
            beads

            So you agree that these are plastic toys .. laughing
            Open the professor’s eyes.
            1. farcop
              farcop 17 May 2018 10: 51
              +1
              Quote: Kotovsky
              plastic toys.
              Duck then you pay for them in full !!! Yes, and you are trying to copy, and pay for this too. For beads and sparkles. laughing laughing laughing
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 17 May 2018 20: 29
        0
        yes, it’s exclusively intelligence g bought from Israel "to see", then assembled from Israeli kits and now we completely sculpt from our parts, though we decided not to change the appearance of the case.
        But now, Forpost in Russia is made entirely of Russian parts.
        Russia now has a whole range of its drones, there are not only heavy impact drones like the American MQ-1 Predator but the problem is being solved.
        The importance of drones, of course, should not be underestimated, but it should not be overestimated, so far no conflict can do without real manned aircraft, not a single drone can yet provide the combat load and speed of a manned aircraft.
  12. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 16 May 2018 22: 53
    +2
    As one friend of mine says, if your son-in-law is Jewish, then the interests of Israel become your interests))) ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 17 May 2018 06: 59
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      As one friend of mine says, if your son-in-law is Jewish, then the interests of Israel become your interests))) ...

      He speaks correctly. Grandchildren are now Jews and anti-Semites do not care about halacha. Who will take care of these Jewish grandchildren, if not Israel? wink
    2. farcop
      farcop 17 May 2018 10: 18
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      if you have a son-in-law jew
      And daughter ...
  13. Serg78
    Serg78 16 May 2018 23: 07
    +1
    It’s interesting, how much heavier will these cars become? Will the engines and chassis withstand extra weight?
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    1. svp67
      svp67 17 May 2018 04: 23
      +2
      Quote: valcat
      It has long been known that cooperation is high quality and cheaper production. Although the Russian Federation does not understand this, she has her own way ...

      Of course. Especially "smart" Ukraine, in this matter. In which EVERY enterprise of the military-industrial complex worked for cooperation with the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, and she tore it all up, and when she didn’t have money, she blamed Russia ... “Smart” ... But “smart” further.
  15. kordon332
    kordon332 17 May 2018 10: 26
    +1
    Quote: Des10
    pzhlsta, confirm your words - especially with such a double smile.

    90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry
    1. farcop
      farcop 17 May 2018 12: 05
      0
      Quote: kordon332
      90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry
      Where are the statistics from?
    2. Totah155
      Totah155 17 May 2018 18: 43
      0
      Quote: kordon332
      90% come from Russia in Israeli tank industry

      Wrong
  16. kordon332
    kordon332 17 May 2018 10: 37
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    And on Merkava-4 for comparison, like this:

    Reply Quote Complaint

    These are sensors, and where are the mortars. It seems that this is an optoelectronic suppression system, not a SAZ
  17. Mentat
    Mentat 17 May 2018 17: 31
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Mentat
    Russia is a developing country, all weapons systems are developed domestically.


    Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture? Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts? This is what our pioneers in circles did. The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.
    "Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.
    1. Professor
      Professor 18 May 2018 08: 48
      +2
      Quote: Mentat
      Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture?

      Everywhere. The Russian Federation acquired not only samples of drones, but also the technology for their manufacture. We handed over blueprints, diagrams and the whole process.

      Quote: Mentat
      Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts?

      Yeah. Only how to glue and how to make parts is called TECHNOLOGY.

      Quote: Mentat
      This is what our pioneers in circles did.

      Is that why you paid us hundreds of millions of dollars? request

      Quote: Mentat
      The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.

      Do you understand what you wrote? Russia never bothered with copyrights and copied no worse than China. For example, Kalashnikov drones are a copy of the Orbiter. Kalashnikov is a master at copying. The license was acquired not at all because of the old design, but precisely because of the technology. Even your superiors openly declare this.

      Quote: Mentat
      "Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.

      In your dreams, dear. laughing
  18. Mentat
    Mentat 18 May 2018 20: 09
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Mentat
    Excuse me, where is the military technology mentioned in your picture?

    Everywhere. The Russian Federation acquired not only samples of drones, but also the technology for their manufacture. We handed over blueprints, diagrams and the whole process.

    Quote: Mentat
    Bonding the fuselage from plastic parts?

    Yeah. Only how to glue and how to make parts is called TECHNOLOGY.

    You can call it that. From this point of view, cutting a watermelon into slices is a technology for cutting a watermelon. But it was a little bit about something else, I’ll remind you, otherwise your memory in certain uncomfortable places immediately disappears: military technology, and in the context of the transfer of fairly complex systems.

    Quote: Mentat
    This is what our pioneers in circles did.

    Is that why you paid us hundreds of millions of dollars? request

    They have already explained to you why this was done. Why your exclamation about hundreds of millions, do you think that we overpay, and your product does not correspond to the cost? I think if you will actively promote this idea, perhaps Russia will revise the terms of the deal.

    Quote: Mentat
    The reason for acquiring the license is not the transfer of certain military technologies unknown to Russia by Israel, as was the case in the United States, but pure pragmatics in the sense of saving time on a specific model that is already flying.

    Do you understand what you wrote? Russia never bothered with copyrights and copied no worse than China. For example, Kalashnikov drones are a copy of the Orbiter. Kalashnikov is a master at copying. The license was acquired not at all because of the old design, but precisely because of the technology. Even your superiors openly declare this.

    Where and what do they state? I'm afraid you intentionally mislead readers. It’s accepted to quote such things.
    If you are outraged by some egregious fact of copying, and you can prove it, file a lawsuit.

    Quote: Mentat
    "Professor", you have already repeatedly puddled in a forum, you probably like the process itself.

    In your dreams, dear. laughing

    About five times already. I still remember your unforgettable “antennas up”)