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The International Space Station (ISS) can be equipped with a laser system for the destruction of small space debris, reports RIA News a message from the chairman of the expert group of the Council on Space Threats, Corresponding Member of the RAS Boris Shustov.




Now, to protect the ISS from space debris, evasive maneuvers are carried out using the engines of the station itself or cargo ships docked to it.

At the celebration of the 60 anniversary of the first satellite at the Space Research Institute a meeting of the working group was held, at which scientists from Italy, France, Japan and Russia agreed that international cooperation would be formed. All of them will think about using orbital lasers placed on the ISS in order to avoid collision with small, several centimeters, but the most numerous and therefore most dangerous fragments of space debris,
Shustov said at a meeting of the RAS Council on Space.

In turn, President of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Sergeev noted that the issue of using lasers to clean the debris from space debris has been discussed for a long time.

Recently, it has been very popular to discuss the use of lasers operating from space to reject debris elements into orbits of their information into the atmosphere. Now in Japan and Europe, projects for creating such installations are being seriously discussed. The parameters of lasers, which are now available, both in terms of average power and peak power, are sufficient for solving the problem of changing the orbit of small space debris elements of 10 centimeters or less in size,
told Sergeev.

It is noted that the development of Russian scientists will reduce the size and technological complexity of the orbital laser.

According to Oleg Palashov, head of the department at the Institute of Applied Physics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the idea was owned by specialists from Japan who submitted their project as early as 2015: “They proposed using three ready-made and currently developed solutions: for high-power accelerators of the next generation Xcan and a telescope for studying the effects of JEM-EUSO cosmic rays on the atmosphere with a mirror with a diameter of 2,5 meter. " In the original design, the laser was supposed to concentrate energy from 10 of thousands of optical fiber channels.

We suggested to colleagues to reduce the number of channels from 10 thousands to 100 by using instead of fiber so-called thin rods, which are being developed at our Institute. By itself, this project is new. Only the possibility of creating such a laser and the potential of placing it on a spacecraft are considered, and the interface, how to control this kind of radiation, is the next question
noted Palashov.

He also said that the work of the designed laser at full power would require as much electricity as the entire ISS generates.

Realizing that it is impossible to de-energize the station, the specialists are working on a project that will consume only 5% of the available energy. This will limit the duration of a shot of 10 seconds, and 200 seconds will go to recharge. The firing range will be up to 10 kilometers. The weight of the equipment will be about 500 kilograms, and the volume - 1-2 cubic meters,
said the scientist.

It is assumed that as a result of exposure of the laser to space debris, it will evaporate, turning into a cloud of metal particles, but "their size will not pose a threat to the ISS shell and spacecraft equipment."
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont 16 May 2018 10: 47
    +4
    Space debris laser
    American Spy and Ballistic Space Debris
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 May 2018 10: 50
      +2
      Quote: Dormidont
      Space debris laser

      got ahead .. yes, that would be nice. in case of force majeure.
      1. MPN
        MPN 16 May 2018 11: 04
        +11
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        got ahead .. yes, that would be nice. in case of force majeure.

        First, astronauts will need to be neutralized by the ISS, astronauts will need regular weapons ...
        But on the topic it’s not entirely clear. Speed "dangerous" the convergence of garbage is large enough
        This will limit the possibility of a shot duration of 10 seconds, and 200 seconds will be spent on reloading. Firing range up to 10 kilometers.
        here 10c is obviously a bit too much to neutralize .. But just shoot all the associated debris from the ISS ... Isn't it easier to launch a satellite with a normal laser and sharpened energy and let it shoot "at all" that it gets ...
        Well, of course you can put garbage cans well and consider the option of guest workers ... smile a joke of course ... wink
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 16 May 2018 12: 31
        +2
        So, under the guise of garbage collection, military lasers are being dragged into space ... The case is small.
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 16 May 2018 10: 57
      +4
      Such super secret developments, on International The cop. so just do not pass. Our PR, or striped scare
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 16 May 2018 11: 04
        +4
        Quote: Chertt
        This will limit the possibility of a shot duration of 10 seconds, and 200 seconds will be spent on reloading. Firing range up to 10 kilometers.

        If the duration of the shot is 10 seconds, and the laser will hit no further than 10 km, then what will he manage to do at a garbage speed of at least 7 km per second?
        1. Chukcha
          Chukcha 16 May 2018 11: 33
          +3
          Depends on the course of the facilities.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 16 May 2018 11: 40
            +1
            Quote: Chukcha
            Depends on the course of the facilities.

            The main danger comes from oncoming garbage and sideways. It is much easier to deal with those in passing.
            1. Chukcha
              Chukcha 16 May 2018 20: 56
              0
              Counter course? Where from?
        2. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 16 May 2018 11: 58
          0
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: Chertt
          This will limit the possibility of a shot duration of 10 seconds, and 200 seconds will be spent on reloading. Firing range up to 10 kilometers.

          If the duration of the shot is 10 seconds, and the laser will hit no further than 10 km, then what will he manage to do at a garbage speed of at least 7 km per second?

          And such things, about using a laser with such characteristics, come to politicians like MuDko. They need to know physics at least at school. So you should not have such a high opinion of them.
        3. Cube123
          Cube123 16 May 2018 12: 27
          +2
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: Chertt
          This will limit the possibility of a shot duration of 10 seconds, and 200 seconds will be spent on reloading. Firing range up to 10 kilometers.

          If the duration of the shot is 10 seconds, and the laser will hit no further than 10 km, then what will he manage to do at a garbage speed of at least 7 km per second?

          You do not understand the idea. Remember the physics. We are talking about space debris, i.e. rejection of objects at intersecting courses. And only objects with close speeds can move in one orbit. It is really impossible to do something with the object on the opposite course. But the probability of getting to such an object is low. But it is quite possible to work with objects in catch-up courses. There the speed difference is much less than km / s. And to predict their movement can be long before the alleged collision.
      2. just exp
        just exp 16 May 2018 11: 04
        0
        but here are the described rods if it’s really breakthroughs it’s better not to transmit to the ISS.
      3. My doctor
        My doctor 16 May 2018 11: 56
        +4
        Quote: Chertt
        Such super secret developments, at the International COP. so just do not pass. Our PR, or striped scare

        Our scientists scare only their own. What was worth only the "gravitsap" launched in past years. This is such a magical engine.
        If you look through Russian scientific journals published by research institutes, the level of science will immediately become clear. This was especially impressed by the articles on the relocation of Chrisin souls authored by the head of the institute, or for example, when the honored academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences publishes articles on homeopathy promoting ideas about the therapeutic effects of CDs and DVDs with the recording of healing waves.
        Such trash is observed in all branches of Russian science. USE has nothing to do with it.
      4. Cube123
        Cube123 16 May 2018 12: 17
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        Such super secret developments, on International The cop. so just do not pass. Our PR, or striped scare

        In fact, this is not over secret development. And the idea did not belong to the Japanese. Here is an article that refers to the ideas of Soviet academicians F.V. Bunkina, A.M. Prokhorova, voiced back in 1976.
        http://trudymai.ru/upload/iblock/e6e/vozmozhnosti
        -ispolzovaniya-aviatsionnoy-lazernoy-sistemy-dlya
        -borby-s-kosmicheskim-musorom-i-podderzhaniya-orb
        it-kosmicheskogo-apparata.pdf "Possibilities of using an aviation laser system to combat space debris and maintain spacecraft orbits." Although the idea of ​​an aircraft complex is considered there, the idea is the same.

        And the link goes to [2] F.V. Bunkin, A.M. Prokhorov. Using a laser energy source to create jet propulsion. Advances in Physical Sciences, vol. 119, no. 3, pp. 425-446, 1976.
    3. Dam
      Dam 16 May 2018 11: 15
      +2
      Somehow, the ISS power supply and a powerful laser do not add up in my head. Energy will not be enough
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 16 May 2018 12: 40
        +1
        Quote: Damm
        Somehow, the ISS power supply and a powerful laser do not add up in my head. Energy will not be enough

        Just look at the idea from the other side. Do not attempt to imagine the destruction of an object. It is enough if you heat one side of the object before the evaporation of its material. Evaporation will create lateral thrust, which can lead an object off course.
        1. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM 16 May 2018 20: 44
          0
          If the chip does not rotate. Otherwise, you can get the likeness of a cracker
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 17 May 2018 07: 23
            +1
            Cracker will turn out if you shine constantly. And if you act with a short, precisely calculated impulse, there will be no cracker.
    4. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 16 May 2018 19: 15
      0
      Push debris out of orbit with light pressure! Finally. Long walked to this ...
  2. Vard
    Vard 16 May 2018 10: 55
    +1
    Everything is in a vacuum ... So it’s quite real ... It’s not to scare the birds in the atmosphere ...
  3. Guru
    Guru 16 May 2018 10: 58
    +2
    Again, the consortium, we will lay out our ideas to them, and then they will begin to bring down our spy trash.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 May 2018 12: 31
      0
      Quote: Guru
      Again, the consortium, we will lay out our ideas to them, and then they will begin to bring down our spy trash.


      Your spy trash is not repairable ... so skies)
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 May 2018 10: 58
    0
    If the laser kills space debris, then it’s not missed by enemy spyware satellites. good
    1. just exp
      just exp 16 May 2018 11: 05
      0
      and the ISS will shoot at them?
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 16 May 2018 11: 17
        0
        just explo (just explo) Today, 11: 05 International Space Station (ISS) can be equipped with a laser system for the destruction of small space debris, reports RIA Novosti

        ... so we are talking about her .... request
    2. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 16 May 2018 11: 25
      +3
      Space weapons that could hit the enemy spy-satellites even under the Soviet Union, China also has))
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 16 May 2018 11: 49
        +1
        Sand Quarry General (Zhora) Today, 11: 25

        hi ! Yes it was, but along the way it is something newer ...
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 16 May 2018 12: 14
          +4
          Sheriff hi

          So for sure, the evolution of such weapons does not stand still))
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 16 May 2018 12: 45
            +1
            Sand Quarry General (Zhora) Today, 12: 14 ↑
            Sheriff hi
            Yes sir, the evolution of such weapons is not in place))

            And this should please us, and the enemies fight in hysterics, and it is better to head against the wall!
  5. Ren
    Ren 16 May 2018 11: 00
    +1
    Could simply upgrade the Soviet invention "Laser gun with a pyrotechnic flash lamp (laser weapon of individual self-defense of astronauts)" to a laser gun wink
  6. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 16 May 2018 11: 00
    +1
    Placing weapons in space is so forbidden ...
    1. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 16 May 2018 11: 02
      +1
      About that and the speech that would make a joint decision on the placement of such in space. But our "partners" will not go for it. Since this is the start of a star warrior in essence. Where there is one laser, others will appear immediately. To protect their satellites from space "debris."
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 16 May 2018 11: 03
      0
      Allowed, prohibited to place WMD.
  7. sabakina
    sabakina 16 May 2018 11: 09
    +2
    Then you still have to radar the radar. Not visually they will seek out and aim.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 16 May 2018 11: 56
      +1
      All space debris is tracked from the Earth, which means they can give target designation from Earth
    2. Sobol
      Sobol 16 May 2018 12: 09
      0
      Quote: sabakina
      Then you still have to radar the radar. Not visually they will seek out and aim.

      So a long time ago (in a distant galaxy, true) they shot and it was normal:
    3. kvarfax
      kvarfax 17 May 2018 09: 36
      0
      if they manage to evade it, then there is no problem with detection)
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 May 2018 11: 33
    +1
    First you need to develop, create in the hardware, test, and then you can talk about it. In the 60s they sang: "And apple trees will bloom on Mars ...". Today is 2018 - where are we and where is Mars?
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 16 May 2018 11: 36
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In the 60s they sang: "And apple trees will bloom on Mars ...". Today is 2018 - where are we and where is Mars?

      There in the songs it was not indicated who planted these same apple trees :-)
    2. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 12: 51
      0
      if the USSR had not collapsed and the whole planet was the USSR, now other galaxies have already been investigated.
      And the loot is not on yachts and palaces, but on research and development.
  9. Capiton
    Capiton 16 May 2018 13: 25
    0
    In America, the laser must be fooled. Tired already.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 May 2018 16: 06
      0
      I think NASA will soon also give out money and open a program - for orbiting laser guns.
  10. datura23
    datura23 17 May 2018 07: 50
    0
    and adjust the orbit after each "shot"?