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The President instructed to accelerate the preparation for serial production of the C-500

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Vladimir Putin set a task for the Russian defense industrial complex to actively develop and increase the technological reserve in the field of air defense and missile defense, reports Interfax.




One of the important tasks is the improvement of the means to combat high-precision weapons and its carriers
said the president at a meeting on military construction.

It is necessary to actively develop and increase the technological reserve in the field of air defense. Continue upgrading the Pantsir complex and complete the development and preparation for mass production of the latest C-500 system capable of operating at high altitudes, including near space,
he declared.

Recall that in October last year, the commander of the air defense and anti-missile defense forces, Victor Gumenny, reported that the new C-500 Prometheus system would go to the troops “closer to the 2020 year.”

C-500 will allow you to perform tasks in near space.

Such promising developments as the fifth generation C-500 Prometheus ZRS will solve strategic tasks not only in the airspace of Russia, but also in near space, reliably guard our national interests, safeguard the peaceful life of people, said Dmitry in a telegram of congratulations Medvedev in connection with the 15 anniversary of "Concern EKR" Almaz-Antey "."

As the newspaper of the Ministry of Defense “Krasnaya Zvezda” wrote, the C-500 will become “the basis of a unified national air defense and anti-ballistic missile defense system (PVO-PRO), which is being created in Russia.”
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  1. Guillon
    Guillon 16 May 2018 09: 15
    +3
    Yes, Comrade Commander-in-Chief !!! soldier
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 16 May 2018 09: 24
      +16
      Soon, only fairy tales affect and not soon things are done. Everything must be done through a stick. And behind everyone’s eyes and eyes. We know how they decree the May decrees
      1. cedar
        cedar 16 May 2018 09: 53
        +8
        The US State Department has 32 “our” oligarchs in the list, factories and factories, which are mainly registered in the English jurisdiction, i.e. these gentlemen on a healthy hook in London and Washington, and they use them to the fullest.
        They will not stick Russia, Putin, the economy and people with sticks in gears and wheels, their loved ones and children will be poor. They can easily arrange a “our” newly-made oligarchs somersaults from “riches in the mud”, because they are all in debt from bankers, like in silk.
        So the oligarchs can still bring their hard workers and clerks to the streets of Moscow in other cities and pay them strikes and actions. So it was already in 1917. English bankers have vast experience in this matter ...
        We see at the root of "our" oligarchy, dear ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 16 May 2018 10: 06
          +19
          Quote: cedar
          We see at the root of "our" oligarchy, dear ...

          Old record laughing
          1. Antivirus2k
            Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 28
            +14
            That is, any Northern Fleet lieutenant can start a nuclear war if he wants to? And you have cool ideas about how a nuclear strike is delivered.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 16 May 2018 10: 56
              +5
              Quote: Antivirus2k
              That is, any Northern Fleet lieutenant can start a nuclear war if he wants to?

              Oh these lieutenants, such entertainers repeat ! One word, worms !!!! bully
            2. hrych
              hrych 16 May 2018 13: 45
              +1
              Quote: Antivirus2k
              And you have cool ideas about how a nuclear strike is delivered.

              No, no, every oligarch has his own suitcase wassat Vekselberg has his own yellowish wassat
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 16 May 2018 10: 52
          +3
          Quote: cedar
          The US State Department on the list of 32 000 "our" oligarchs

          32000 even not enough !!! I have only 6 oligarchs in my village, and here I have 32000 for the whole Rosuya! wassat
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 16 May 2018 11: 04
          +3
          "So the oligarchs can still bring their hard workers and clerks to the streets of Moscow in other cities and pay them strikes and actions." They are not so stupid that their production would stand idle, lose money and production itself.
        4. Zpi
          Zpi 16 May 2018 15: 42
          +1
          It is high time to take away the nationwide from them. Russian property and make it state again. For these "riches" got out of the filthiest mud. Moreover, they are followers and descendants of those who, in 1917 and after, organized the Red Terror. That is, their grandfathers destroyed and dispossessed after 1917 of true Russian, honest capitalists (in comparison with the current ones). Those who created capital much more honestly before 1917 than those who became oligarchs after 1991 were destroyed under the guise of the ideas of Communism, so that later their granddaughters and Zionist last ones would take it all for themselves! (destroying them experimentally bloody Communism) These revolutionaries of 1917 and the current invaders are ONE FIELD OF BERRY. (which it’s long been time to root and throw it to the west with bare backsides)
      2. Abu Dawood
        Abu Dawood 16 May 2018 11: 24
        0
        Shev, everything is lost, everything is lost ... the Russians are making the S-500 ...
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 16 May 2018 11: 58
          +4
          Is "Shev" such a Hebrew name? laughing

          They do, well do, the "Western partners" are shaking with fear, nothing new.
          Jackals are howling, the caravan is coming.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 May 2018 09: 46
      +5
      I remember that they promised to deliver it to the troops in 2015 in the year ... Well .. Such is the Russian Tradition winked
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 16 May 2018 10: 04
        +9
        The S-500 will cover Moscow, and only that is the Headquarters. in large quantities, not even S-300-400 is on duty anywhere. only key objects. the country (territory) is huge, to hell with what you "close" everything. therefore, exhale and calm down, we hope that a vigorous war does not happen, and the other does not.
        1. Antivirus2k
          Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 30
          0
          I remember stories on Kremlin TV that one S-400 complex covers an area equal to roughly that of France. Well, it turns out that not many complexes are needed to cover everything, if you believe the "cartoons."
          1. Charik
            Charik 16 May 2018 16: 42
            0
            the French are smaller than the Voronezh region and areas we have lope? yes what, so do not believe the animators
      2. vkl.47
        vkl.47 16 May 2018 10: 04
        +2
        Nobody ever promised this. You don’t have to fly here Russian traditions
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 16 May 2018 09: 16
    +12
    Well, at least kill me, I just want to write in a childish way: "Send C-500 to Syria, for running-in, closer to the border of Israel!" And preferably in a Spark with C-400, with C-300B4, and C-350 Knight and Thor-M2, like a cherry on a cake fellow
    And then in Pantsir-S1 shoot, which stood in the stowed position and without a crew, a lot of mind is not necessary.
    1. dorz
      dorz 16 May 2018 09: 23
      +5
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Well, at least kill, and I want to write childishly: "Send the S-500 to Syria, for a run-in, closer to the Israeli border!"

      Probably, everyone already understood that Russia would not go against Israel. No air defense can save from aggression, for example, Kim Jong-un doesn’t have it at all.
      1. MPN
        MPN 16 May 2018 09: 45
        +8
        Quote: dorz
        Kim Jong-un doesn't have one at all.

        There is only it exclusively imprisoned on media ...
      2. Foxmara
        Foxmara 18 May 2018 09: 34
        0
        Quote: dorz
        Probably, everyone already understood that Russia would not go against Israel.

        What for? Why go against anyone at all? There are interests and the question of their observance in a bundle with the interests of other countries. Israel is neither better nor worse than the rest.
        Quote: dorz
        No air defense can save you from aggression

        Yezrail planes were already shot down. It's just that someone has a meek memory. Within 1-2 weeks.
        And they shot down the F-35s, just who admits it? It’s just that the bird flew in, so much so that the question is whether it will be exploited, although according to the technical characteristics they must withstand the ingress of the bird.
    2. agribkov79
      agribkov79 16 May 2018 09: 26
      +2
      this is because their nettles were killed. therefore, the shell and broke. belay
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 16 May 2018 09: 35
        +10
        Go to the stable, the troll is miserable.
    3. cats
      cats 16 May 2018 09: 37
      +4
      And it came to mind .. Somehow traitors and pests try poorly
      such as Medvedev, Serdyukov, etc. Destroy, loot, and missiles
      everything is cooler .. request
      Or maybe they are not ... It’s probably Putin’s fault. Again, why did he need this,
      because he is so bad .. recourse
      Herods completely confused ..
      1. Antivirus2k
        Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 25
        +4
        "Destroyed, plundered, and rockets are cooler .."
        And how do you determine that "rockets are cooler"? By cartoon? Or do you have any examples of combat use where "the new missiles defeated everyone"? I now know that the Syrians shot down American "smart" missiles with old Soviet complexes. But where does the “new rocket", which is becoming "steeper"? And I did not doubt the coolness of the Soviet complexes, like many of those sitting here.
        1. cats
          cats 16 May 2018 10: 32
          +1
          Quote: Antivirus2k
          And how do you determine that "rockets are cooler"?

          Read, read below, war fighter and answers .. lol
          Well, the fact is that we would not have lasted so many cartoons in Syria. request
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 16 May 2018 11: 23
          +1
          Quote: Antivirus2k
          I know that Syrians shot down American smart missiles by old Soviet complexes.

          And where did you learn this from?
        3. Foxmara
          Foxmara 18 May 2018 09: 38
          0
          Quote: Antivirus2k
          And how do you determine that "rockets are cooler"?

          You can hysterical "partners" for example. You will not be provided with other data anyway. Only indirect.
          One has only to start talking about the S-300 in Iran and Syria and immediately begins to burn something in the neighboring kosher state. Or Iskander in Kaliningrad and the reaction of Europeans.
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2018 09: 50
      +3
      "And preferably in conjunction with the S-400, with the S-300B4, and the S-350 Vityaz and Tor-M2, like a cherry on a cake" ////

      This would be beneficial for Israel. good After a week of “dry trials” (without firing), the dead zones of radars, real distances when radars capture targets for tracking, would become clear
      real effective distances for shooting at various targets. It would become clear how the air defense echelons "talk to each other," transmit goals.
      If such a “bundle” were transferred to Syria’s air defense, there would be no price decision! fellow
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 16 May 2018 10: 06
        +6
        Quote: voyaka uh
        This would be beneficial for Israel.

        You splashed all your thighs there, when there was a rumor about the delivery of the S-300 to Syria, and here in front of us you “bhagaviruyut” your capabilities ... Who are you scaring? And what? With your scraps? We!!! Great God-chosen people !!! negative Without the support of the United States, as an independent state formation, you will exist for a couple of months.
        Do not worry too much, we also:

        Renounce the old world
        Shake it off our feet
        We are hostile to the golden idols ...
        ... And will rise for the bloody dawn
        The sun of truth and brotherhood of people.
        We will buy the world we last fight
        We buy with blood the happiness of children.
        And the year of freedom will come
        Fade away, fade away forever
        And they will merge into one people
        In the free realm of holy labor ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 16 May 2018 10: 11
          +1
          "And they will merge into one people
          In the free realm of holy labor ... "////

          Well said. good Well, successes "merge into one":
          "in the free realm of holy labor" fellow
    5. Grandfather
      Grandfather 16 May 2018 10: 00
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      The President instructed to accelerate the preparation for serial production of the C-500

      in what "horseradish" there their S-500 bullet? on "axes" it does not work, in general, a useless thing in Syria.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 16 May 2018 09: 17
    +1
    Wanting is not harmful, it is harmful neither wanting. And how it will turn out in our conditions only time will tell.
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 May 2018 09: 18
    +6
    In Russia, the production of a new generation anti-aircraft missile system began. On February 26, 2018, the TASS news agency reported that the Nizhny Novgorod Engineering Plant had begun production of S-500 Prometheus missile systems.

    Concern East Kazakhstan Almaz-Antey has built two plants - in Kirov and Nizhny Novgorod. At the Kirov Machine-Building Enterprise, the design capacity for the production of promising anti-aircraft missile systems alone is thousands of missiles per year. And the Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant has already begun production of final systems of the S-500 and S-400 type on an automobile chassis and wheeled semitrailers. ”

    http://army-news.ru/2018/02/zrk-c-500-prometej-po
    shyol-v-seriyu /
  5. agribkov79
    agribkov79 16 May 2018 09: 23
    +6
    Urgently accelerate preparations for receiving kickbacks and cuts based on the S-500.
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 16 May 2018 09: 35
      +1
      Quote: agribkov79
      Urgently accelerate preparations for receiving kickbacks and cuts based on the S-500.

      Congratulations, you have a credible feeling of optimism! belay
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 May 2018 09: 49
      +8
      Quote: agribkov79
      Urgently accelerate preparations for receiving kickbacks and cuts based on the S-500.

      fool fool Quietly rustling with slate, the roof slides slowly, urgently to Navalnyanu navalnenok.
      Quote: agribkov79
      this is because their nettles were killed. therefore, the shell and broke. belay

      For this, it is possible and necessary to clean the scoreboard. negative
    3. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 13: 02
      0
      I think and so everything is in order, as in Russian space wassat
  6. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 16 May 2018 09: 24
    +4
    The author of the article runs in front of the train, so Putin said
    to complete development and preparation for serial production of the latest S-500 system

    The development has not yet been completed, the complex has not even passed the test, and some are already thinking of seeing it in Syria. But the end of development has not yet been observed.
    1. Charik
      Charik 16 May 2018 09: 44
      +1
      will be the end of development- in Rusnano
  7. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 16 May 2018 09: 28
    0
    Where in the article about acceleration request In 2020, the defense workers pledged, so we are waiting, but about the shell it’s interesting what needs to be modernized. Seeing not everything in it is so good.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 16 May 2018 09: 36
      +3
      Everything is never good. The fascists also modernized the Tiger, modernized it, but did not modernize it. As a result, he stopped driving altogether, giving birth to a "mouse" - Maus. Sometimes you just need to reduce the cost and rivet more. Like a T-34.
      And the loss of one car is bullshit and ordinary PR. It doesn’t mean anything at all.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 16 May 2018 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      but about the shell it’s interesting that it needs to be modernized. Seeing not everything in it is so good.

      Already undergoing the test, Shell SM, with a double range from 20 km (for Shell C1), up to 40 km for Shell SM. Target detection up to 75 km.
      As for the article, in addition to the S-500, we should have already accelerated with the delivery of weapons and the S-350.
      1. Charik
        Charik 16 May 2018 09: 46
        +1
        floor that rockets from beech into the shell cram and ship mount instead of r
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 16 May 2018 09: 54
          0
          Quote: Charik
          floor that rockets from beech into the shell cram and ship mount instead of r

          No, the missile will be different. At the same time, it will be suitable for use on the Shell C1. Its distinctive feature is that it will be able to work on ballistic goals.
          So, "Shell-SM" should receive a new high-speed missile, and the range of detection and destruction of targets will increase by about half. It is expected that the Shell-SM will be able to "see" the target at a distance of 75 km and destroy it at a distance of 40 km. At "Shell-C1" these figures are respectively 40 and 20 km.
      2. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 16 May 2018 10: 56
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        it would be necessary to accelerate with the delivery of weapons and the S-350

        Systems that have not passed tests are usually not accepted for service.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2018 09: 31
    +2
    As for weapons, we usually do it. Both in range and in height ...
    So ... We will really strengthen air defense - to the limit ...
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 May 2018 09: 50
      0
      A long time ago flashed information about the ultimate ranges of interceptions from missiles from the S-500 "up to 1000 km in height and up to 3500 km in inclined". These numbers make me happy. Well, we'll see hi
    2. Antivirus2k
      Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 21
      0
      “It turned out,” to be precise. And it turned out so cool that it is still possible to upgrade. But ad infinitum, this will not continue.
      1. cats
        cats 16 May 2018 10: 49
        0
        Quote: Antivirus2k
        It turned out "to be more precise.

        Quote: Antivirus2k
        I now know that the Syrians shot down American "smart" missiles with old Soviet complexes. But where does the "new rocket"

        I wonder if you have children? They are certainly worse than you, because they are not old yeast ..
        Like spring, where did you get such sad thoughts, where did you get so much pessimism from?
        If you are a resident of Russia, cheer up, not everything is so bad. yes
  9. Victor Osipov
    Victor Osipov 16 May 2018 09: 36
    0
    Especially since there is where to experience in combat conditions! They put the "carapace" in vain on the chassis of the KAMAZ invention - this is the "activity" of the "five-column", the situation was exactly the same with the new weapons in 37-38 and also closed the Katyusha and the 57-mm anti-aircraft gun with good intentions, which again they revived only to the Battle of Kursk (?), the new T-34 and KV tanks also went with a “creak”! Today they refused the goods of the Union of Belarus country with us - the products of the Soviet plant MZKT, tested even in the Soviet Army!
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 16 May 2018 10: 02
      +1
      Victor .. what for again you mixed people of horses in a heap? Why didn’t the chassis suit you? Mobile, maneuverable ..
      57mm were tested before the war .. recognized excessive penetration and insufficient high-explosive effect. In the battle of Moscow participated T-34 with these guns .. Trunks used produced before the war. On the Kursk Bulge, the main TCP were not 57mm guns, for the Tigers they were already missing. There were thousands of T-34s and Kv-1s at the beginning of the war .., but there were dozens of trained crews, there were no tactics at all.
  10. Dagestan
    Dagestan 16 May 2018 09: 41
    0
    And to what generation belongs? To the second?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 May 2018 09: 51
      0
      Patriot is not from this barrel at all. Another system, other tasks. Small caliber, so to speak
  11. Cellulitis
    Cellulitis 16 May 2018 09: 41
    +4
    Something promises your VV and decrees, somewhere in the annals of history, remained unfulfilled ..)))) It would even be funny if it were not for the growth of gasoline, communal services, theft at all levels and the reforms that led to the Bologna system in schools, the horror in clinics, the collapse of the remnants of state factories and the total impoverishment of the people of Russia ...
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 May 2018 09: 53
      +4
      Quote: Cellulite
      Something promises your VV and decrees, somewhere in the annals of history, remained unfulfilled ..)))) It would even be funny if it were not for the growth of gasoline, communal services, theft at all levels and the reforms that led to the Bologna system in schools, the horror in clinics, the collapse of the remnants of state factories and the total impoverishment of the people of Russia ...

      Change your profile picture, here the five comrades have this, they’ll still get the innocent, I forgot to mention pensioners yet, a flaw in the training manual. laughing
      1. Antivirus2k
        Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 19
        +4
        Interestingly, why is the manual “all very bad” worse than the manual “all very good”? And how to convince those who work for 15 rubles that "everything is very good"?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 16 May 2018 11: 07
          +1
          15000 is official, not official, we do not know.
          1. Cellulitis
            Cellulitis 16 May 2018 17: 23
            +1
            My advice to you, so that you wouldn’t look stupid anymore)), Come to the Altai Territory, Krasnoyarsk Territory, or another region or region of Siberia, drop into a small town, and your dreamy eyes will open in “pink” glasses ..... How people really live, and what their official zp is, and also the opportunities for unofficial earnings !!! Or brochures do not give the truth in the eye to look?
            1. Sergey ippon
              Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 13: 08
              +1
              not even that, there is a Vladimir, Ivanovo region nearby - in the center of many cities instead of pavement asphalt, factories are covered and work of 15 thousand rubles is considered normal.
              from Kovrov to Shui, the road is such that it’s stupid to shoot for it — like enemies of the people.
        2. Mestny
          Mestny 16 May 2018 11: 17
          0
          Not all. Those who work for 15000 know about this, that not everything is good.
          But they still know this - if your masterminds break through to power it will be even worse, much worse.
          Putin is not good for many. But this is really the best that is today.
          70% of the population understands this.
          1. Cellulitis
            Cellulitis 16 May 2018 17: 25
            +1
            Being patient is personal, and campaigning for it, in my opinion, is a crime!
          2. Sergey ippon
            Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 13: 10
            +1
            they understand filling gasoline at 45 re and thinking how it would be like to get to your old people in the village once a month and it remains to pay for the apartment ...
        3. dvina71
          dvina71 16 May 2018 11: 34
          +1
          Quote: Antivirus2k
          And how to convince those

          They must not be convinced .. but taught. To teach to work, to give an explanatory profession. Although I know a lot of people who get 20-25 and they are fine .., schedule .. no responsibility ..
          So for reference .. The loader in the Ivanovo RIO receives 30tr .., though he is responsible for loading the goods ..
          https://ru.jooble.org/%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1
          %82%D0%B0-%D1%88%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%8F-%D0%BC%D0%BE%D
          1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0/%D
          0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE
          And here you can see the vacancies of a motorcyclist in Ivanovo .., and there are not enough seamstresses.
          1. Zpi
            Zpi 16 May 2018 16: 30
            +2
            We’ll tear everything in Ivanovo from Kamchatka to Rostov and the Caucasus and turn everything into seamstresses ?? Maybe this is Putin’s plan - all from southern Siberia to the north and to large megacities ... so that people do not multiply and liberate the best lands with all this ?? (for China, Jews, or arrogant Saxons ??) The only conclusion from his entire politics is this. - ousting of the Russian people into point megapolar enclaves (ghettos for the Russian people) with its subsequent reduction. Even the gastro-byte-fed-clumsy policy (of gastro-byte-workers from the middle of Asia and China) - ALL THIS SPECIFICALLY INDICATES !!
            1. Cellulitis
              Cellulitis 16 May 2018 17: 20
              0
              They in Ivanovo do not understand the longing of the Siberian patriot! They are doing well for 30 rubles. can VV kiss on the heels ....
            2. dvina71
              dvina71 16 May 2018 21: 46
              0
              Quote: ZPI
              We’ll tear everything in Ivanovo from Kamchatka to Rostov and the Caucasus and turn everything into seamstresses ??

              Why did I start talking about Ivanovo .. I was there in 2009 .. There are almost no roads .. I’m listening to the radio .. there they tied some kind of official for delivering gas coal instead of anthracite to the boiler room .. the village freezes .. There is no work .. It’s gone nothing .. 8 years .. The city does not recognize .. To us in Severodvinsk on the NSR go to work from all over the country .., move with their families .. the main thing that would be a master of his craft.
              The simplest thing is ... sit and whine .. about a little money .... After 1998, I had nothing left .. except hands and head and debts .. Only I didn’t go to the square with a placard to wave .. what kind of power is bad and how little I of money .. I learned how to weld, paint brushes .. what prevents a person with a small zp from raising his ass and getting a more paid profession?
              1. Cellulitis
                Cellulitis 17 May 2018 06: 15
                +1
                Well, listen to Gennady, we don’t sit on the same point, but work, for example, I am a former policeman, now in business, I, so to speak, are outraged, first of all, by the fact that nothing is being done by the state! !! The people want and know how to work (otherwise they would have died already) - they need jobs, they need production, they need self-employment, and what kind of self-employment will there be if consumer demand = 0.fuck tenths, people in small towns don't have it at all !!! I’m talking about this! And on TV, it is only audible - it is NECESSARY, yes it is NECESSARY! Yes, it’s necessary, who argues that, only I’ve heard “Yes,” for 18 years, and during this time nothing really happens inside the country. Previously, at least there was an opportunity to drive cars, outbid, generally spin, now it’s not there, but communal apartments and gasoline are growing and growing. I have an apartment for rent, I rent it for 16 tr, I can not rent it for more, 8 of them are communal !!! The outflow of citizens from NOVOSIBIRSK this year is officially almost 3 people !!! And this is from NOVOSIBIRSK - almost 000 million, but what can we say about the small Siberian cities that are dying out ?! Who cares about the people there ?! Where did the northern “Poles” and other allowances of the northerners go ?! And after that I just hear - work better, but bl ... I work, it remains only to grow a hump so that I can completely turn into a pack animal !!!!
              2. Sergey ippon
                Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 13: 17
                +1
                and I’ve been there every week to work — a number of the city of Shuya — so it’s not expensive from there, in general.
                when from the office they want to hire a gazelle to hit the road in Ivanovo.
                Do you think this is normal?
          2. Sergey ippon
            Sergey ippon 20 May 2018 13: 16
            0
            can you even imagine how they work? in 1.5 shifts and the penalties are the same if the employer doesn’t like it — and they always don’t like it.
            Familiar with Kokhma (near Ivanov), he receives 8 thousand rubles with the promised -40, and says so everywhere.
            movers? 30? oh well, a storehouse + loader is possible, but it’s kind of completely different.
            Shipped in Ivanovo -1 thousand rubles per shift is a good saying.
  12. Abram
    Abram 16 May 2018 09: 50
    +4
    Yes, even tomorrow. A couple of cosmetic changes, repaint, change the index and go prove that it is not s-500 but s-400, and that, in turn, is not s-300. The Admissions Committee was unfastened from bounty, it confirmed the declared characteristics, and everyone is happy - the Tsar is broadcasting about a new, unparalleled world, the rest, who are in business, share money and assent. Ordinary citizens are fed articles like "US trembling with fear"
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 16 May 2018 10: 14
      0
      Quote: Abram
      Ordinary citizens are fed articles like "The US is trembling with fear ..."

      ... and with fear they shoot Tomahawks across the territory where the Russian air forces are located ... belay
      What is the use of serial production of the S-500? Have you seen the combat use of the S-400? Any adversary F-22, F-35 collapsed, completely shot down and unconditionally "Syrian" calculation of S-400, 300? belay
      What is the use of the gun that hangs on the wall in the first act of the play? Does the viewer have to wait for the finale and the scene when it shoots? So before this you can not live ... request
      1. Abram
        Abram 16 May 2018 10: 32
        +2
        Yes. And this is just the case when the King may not be very bad, but the boyars are definitely rubbish. Surely remember the case when Putin slipped a video with Apache? Why can't it be the same here? - Putin arrives at the training ground, watches as the rocket leaves the container and is carried away into unknown distances. And then he is forced to trust, perhaps the same ones that Apache slipped him, what will they tell him? - "Vladimir Vladimirovich! A rocket hit 3 satellites in the near space! And 4 shell-shock! The complex with a rocket such and such is over 9000% better than the previous one! Hurray!" beautifully wrapped, Putin will leave satisfied. And all
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 16 May 2018 11: 19
          -2
          Yes Yes.
          The main thing is do not stop, Abram. Everything is painted on Mosfilm.
  13. net0103net
    net0103net 16 May 2018 09: 55
    +1
    But this is the right decision. Good decision.
  14. Antivirus2k
    Antivirus2k 16 May 2018 10: 06
    0
    With such salaries for scientists, acceleration is inevitable.
  15. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 16 May 2018 10: 20
    0
    Missiles for the S-400 are expensive, it would be good to develop tools for the destruction of precision planning bombs like the one that destroyed the "Shell" in Syria.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 16 May 2018 11: 00
      0
      Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
      bombs

      The carapace was not attacked by a bomb. Even 100kg of high-performance explosives is enough to tear to pieces, something like a shell. Judging by the damage, it was attacked by an Israeli anti-tank ATGM of a cumulative effect. Only the command cabin was destroyed.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 May 2018 11: 14
        +1
        The shell was killed by a guided missile.
        But planning bombs are now being made quite miniature. And the trend
        to even greater miniaturization.
        10 kg of explosives delivered to the desired point of equipment is enough to
        disable it. But the cost reduction does not work. To get to the point, you need a wound GOS.
        The shell cannot work without a fighting compartment. To mount a new fighting compartment to the surviving launchers, it is easier to build a new machine at the factory.
        1. Charik
          Charik 16 May 2018 16: 52
          0
          killed?, so judged by the photo
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 16 May 2018 11: 21
        -2
        And most importantly - it did not work.
        But of course Putin is to blame - for our failure to invent weapons that even work when turned off.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 16 May 2018 13: 47
          0
          Air defense complexes are first "discharged" by various false
          goals or flying at extreme distances, then destroy,
          when he shot back or recharged.
          This has always been done and is being done. Therefore, the Syrians and sat drinking coffee
          at a safe distance from the car. They have rich life experience.
  16. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 May 2018 11: 04
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "And they will merge into one people
    In the free realm of holy labor ... "////

    Well said. good Well, successes "merge into one":
    "in the free realm of holy labor" fellow

    You will be surprised.
    But something like that is written in the constitution for which people did not scratch their turnips and voted.
    Instead of the right to work, it was formulated approximately as follows.
    The right of free expression of the ability to work.
    However, the situation does not fundamentally change.
    And the Russian air defense system will be on high alert.
    Well
    "And if the enemy dares to test our strength.
    We will forever wean him. "
    Do not doubt. hi
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 16 May 2018 11: 24
      -2
      It is always interesting to watch people of known nationality. While they are not touched - a sea of ​​bragging in half with contempt for everyone.
      But as soon as the whip rose, a universal howl begins and a cry for the poor and defenseless, whom everyone offends. They haven’t hit yet, no - but crying, drooling and moaning are already cosmic.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2018 13: 55
      +2
      "And the Russian air defense system will be on high alert." ///

      Russian air defense in relative safety, since it is not
      no one dares to "test" the functionality.
      The Americans will not dare to launch a target rocket to
      check the reaction of the complexes. But with Syrian air defense it is done
      regularly. Therefore, I wrote that the complex layered
      Air defense in Syria (transferred to the Syrians) will only help Israel
      (and the States) to check the performance characteristics of complexes in a real situation and without much
      risk to us.
  17. Dagestan
    Dagestan 16 May 2018 12: 14
    0
    What American generation patriot? Second?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 16 May 2018 12: 27
      0
      Quote: Dagestan
      Second?

      Nothing. The role of air defense in them is assigned to the Air Force .. and then until the artillery and the same air force burn out the territory of the enemy.
      Recently I read an article where the American general complains about the backlog in artillery systems .. And he recalls the sho ... in France at 44m .. they both gave out hundreds of guns for the Natsiks ... and I really wanted to send him to the German trenches during the artillery preparation of the Korsun offensive -Shevchenko operation of the Red Army.
      1. 1536
        1536 17 May 2018 11: 01
        0
        And I saw in the movie “Team A” that the US borders are guarded throughout their entire length (especially from Mexico) by automatic drones that constantly barrage in the airspace, and if unidentified objects enter it, they attack these objects until they are completely destroyed. The ingenious decision.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2018 13: 58
      0
      Patriot 2, and 3 are roughly equivalent to the S-300
      according to possibilities.
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  19. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 May 2018 14: 51
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "And the Russian air defense system will be on high alert." ///

    Russian air defense in relative safety, since it is not
    no one dares to "test" the functionality.
    The Americans will not dare to launch a target rocket to
    check the reaction of the complexes. But with Syrian air defense it is done
    regularly. Therefore, I wrote that the complex layered
    Air defense in Syria (transferred to the Syrians) will only help Israel
    (and the States) to check the performance characteristics of complexes in a real situation and without much
    risk to us.

    So it will be interesting for us to find out.
    When I tell us I mean Russia.
    If we are talking about a hypothetical creation of a truly layered air defense of Syria according to standards that are somewhat close to the Russian air defense standards.
    In the case of establishing real effectiveness, Russia will have a lot of positive aspects.
    As in the case of a lack of effectiveness.
    In fact, the Russian military and defense industry specialists in Syria are largely engaged in this.
    The question of building a serious deeply echeloned air defense of Syria lies only in the political / diplomatic spheres.
  20. Zpi
    Zpi 16 May 2018 16: 44
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Air defense complexes are first "discharged" by various false
    goals or flying at extreme distances, then destroy,
    when he shot back or recharged.
    This has always been done and is being done. Therefore, the Syrians and sat drinking coffee
    at a safe distance from the car. They have rich life experience.

    If he were rich, they would not have shot ammunition for false and unattainable goals.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2018 22: 44
      0
      Missile defense - passive defense. It’s hard for them. A false target may turn out to be real.
      Do not shoot - accused of "doing nothing." So it is with extreme distances: if you don’t let the rocket go by yourself, the enemy’s plane will let it into you. Reflections - fractions of a second.
  21. 1970mk
    1970mk 16 May 2018 23: 45
    +1
    Off topic ... cursing is already a pleasure. The president is ... the president is .... The president said "the task is to improve the standard of living" .... Gasoline has already risen in price by 15% and is growing every day. prices are rising .. no work ... no one is going to create jobs. Violet to me on c500!
  22. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx 17 May 2018 21: 11
    0
    It is perfectly. We need in-depth air defense and missile defense, taking into account the impending threats on the country.