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Cossacks: protect the state or violate civil rights and freedoms?

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When 5 in May 2018 in Moscow and a number of other cities in Russia passed anti-government rallies against President Vladimir Putin, people in Cossack uniforms took part in dispersing the protesters. Russian media outfitted photographs and video footage, in which the Cossacks are fighting with the protesters. The very participation of people in the Cossack form in the dispersal of rallies caused an extremely ambiguous reaction in Russian society.

The indignation of representatives of the liberal political spectrum is understandable, but many public and political figures of other views were categorically opposed to the participation of Cossacks in this form in the political life of the country. For example, the famous journalist Maksim Shevchenko, in protest, pointedly left the Human Rights Council. He made this decision after the HRC refused to meet at his proposal for an emergency meeting on the participation of the Cossacks in dispersing the rallies. Although the HRO did not refuse to investigate these events, its head, Mikhail Fedotov, stated that he would certainly send a request to the law enforcement agencies.



The perplexity of the public about the participation of the Cossacks in the dispersal of rallies is understandable. In a legal state, which the Russian Federation, of course, is, a monopoly on the use of violence should have only the relevant state bodies vested with the necessary powers for this: the police, the National Guard, and other law enforcement agencies. If we draw a parallel with the Russian Empire, then there was a completely different situation. Cossack troops in pre-revolutionary Russia had official status.

Cossack administration was finally centralized in the 19th century. As a military-service class, the Cossacks were actively involved in the protection of order within the Russian Empire, in border and customs services. In 1905-1907 The Cossacks of the second stage were mobilized by the tsarist government for serving in the public order, which consisted in the dispersal of political demonstrations and strikes, the protection of public institutions, enterprises, landlord estates and other objects. It was during this period that a negative attitude towards the Cossacks as a “satrap” of the tsarist regime began to form among a part of the population of the Russian Empire. Subsequently, this negative attitude resulted in the tragedy of the Cossacks during the Civil War and the first decades of Soviet power.

Cossacks: protect the state or violate civil rights and freedoms?


The centuries-old Cossack service of the Russian Empire ended with the February 1917 revolution of the year and the abdication of Nicholas II. AT stories Russian Cossacks began a new stage - the most dramatic, during which the Cossacks - “white” and “red” - fought each other. Despite the fact that a significant part of the Cossacks supported the Soviet government, this did not become an argument against the policy of storytelling, which the Bolsheviks resorted to already in 1919 year. For seven decades of Soviet power, the organizational structure, economy, traditions and way of life of the Cossacks in all regions of Russia were dealt a crushing blow. The Cossacks began to recover from it only at the turn of the 1980-1990-s, but the revival of the Cossacks took on completely different forms. Firstly, not all people who were Cossacks by origin took part in the revival of the Cossacks.

On the other hand, among modern Cossacks, not everyone is of Cossack origin, for many people participation in Cossacks is akin to expressing their political and social views. Secondly, the post-Soviet Cossack troops, deprived of the economic base and status recognized by the state, are only public organizations with all the ensuing consequences. For two and a half post-Soviet decades, the activities of many Cossack organizations managed to set up a significant part of Russian society against the modern heirs of the Cossacks. What feelings can be caused by adequate people "burdened" generals and colonels, awarded with imaginable and inconceivable awards and assigning ranks and positions to themselves?



However, as early as in 1995, the State Register of Cossack Societies was created. In an effort to streamline the situation, the Russian authorities in 2005 ensured the adoption of the Federal Law 154-FZ “On the Public Service of the Russian Cossacks”. The law contains the concept of the state register of Cossack societies in the Russian Federation as an information resource containing information about Cossack societies. The law provides for the Russian Cossacks to assist the state in performing a number of functions, among which are listed: assistance in military registration and military-patriotic training of draftees, participation in disaster relief and emergency situations, in the protection of public order, and in the protection of the State Border. Of the Russian Federation, ensuring environmental and fire safety. Thus, the law allows for the participation of Cossacks in the performance of a number of functions of state bodies.

State interest in the Cossacks increased significantly after 2014, and was associated with events in Ukraine and with the active participation of the Cossacks, primarily the Don and Kuban Cossacks, in the reunification of Crimea with Russia and in the fighting in the Donbas. The authorities began to consider the Cossacks as a reliable and efficient ally, acting in defense of the national interests of the Russian state.

Naturally, the authorities are also impressed by the support of domestic policy on the part of the registered Cossacks. Currently, the most serious and active is the Kuban Cossack army, which really makes a very significant contribution to the protection of public order in the Kuban and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, the protection of state borders, and the fight against emergency situations. It was the Kuban registry Cossacks that played an important role in ensuring the reunification of the Crimea with Russia. Don non-Cossacks under the command of ataman Nikolai Kozitsyn, in turn, fought in the Donbas. Many Cossacks died heroically, fighting against the Ukrainian army and the “dobrobat”.



From about the same time, individual Cossack formations actively participated in the suppression of opposition speeches. Naturally, such activities of the Cossacks are carried out by them exclusively with the support of the state, but here the country's leadership made a certain mistake. The participation of the Cossacks, who, despite the existence of a relevant law, still have an incompletely regulated and regulated legal status, raises many questions in the protection or dispersal of political events and allows the Russian opposition to attack the authorities for “using illegitimate militias”. When an unauthorized rally is dispersed by the police or parts of the internal troops (now the National Guard), it is difficult to argue with that, since they are endowed with the appropriate powers in law, but the Cossacks do not have such powers.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with the participation of Cossack formations in the protection of order, borders, in the fight against terrorism, the protection of state facilities. The police, national guard and army help the Cossacks never hurt. But now in Russia there are actually no legal basis, and conditions that would allow to legitimize the participation of the Cossacks in the protection of public order as an independent structure, and not the militia members of the police.

At the same time, a number of experts believe that it’s premature to talk about the unequivocal fault of the Cossacks in the attack on 5 protesters in May. Thus, Professor Oleg Matveychev, in an interview with Business Online, stressed that the government allowed a rally of supporters of politician Alexei Navalny elsewhere, but the Navalists themselves came to Pushkin Square, where they actually ran into the Cossacks present there. Knowing the behavior of modern Russian liberals, it is difficult to disagree with Matveychev. Sometimes they undertake purposeful provocations to create situations in which they can expose themselves as “victims” or “police brutality”, or attacks of Cossacks (paratroopers, nationalists, etc.). For example, eyewitnesses to the ill-fated rally of 5 in May say that aggressively-minded young people from among the protesters, seeing the Cossacks present in the square, began to bully them, chanting “Mature! Dressed up! ”Among the Cossacks, there are people with combat experience who have passed through“ hot spots ”, participants in wars in Transnistria and Chechnya, Yugoslavia and the Donbas. Naturally, such offensive behavior of the protesters could not please them. And it seems that the protesters on the negative reaction of the Cossacks and counted. One of the eyewitnesses to those events generally claims that the fight began after one of the Cossacks was thrown sand in the face, and his comrades responded.

Another thing is that the Cossacks would not have to succumb to such provocations, since they only create the image of the martyrs of the liberal opposition. Actually, it is precisely such incidents that are beneficial to the top of the liberals, since they allow to further blacken the existing power, ask for financial and informational assistance in the West.

The opposition Cossacks have already used their own purposes. Thus, a special channel appeared in the Telegras, on which they find out the identities of people in Cossack uniforms who participated in the rally at a rally. The creators of the channel claim that they have calculated more than a dozen Cossacks, including teachers from St. Petersburg and Moscow universities and participants in the hostilities in the Donbas. The sources of financing of the Cossack formations are also actively discussed, emphasizing that the Cossacks give money to the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation and the Moscow Mayor's Office. In a number of media outlets, information appeared that only from 2016 onwards did the Cossack formations of Moscow receive funding from the state totaling 37,6 million rubles, and these funds were also spent on preparing the Cossacks for action under the protection of public events.



But if we turn to the text of the Federal Law 154-FZ “On the State Service of the Russian Cossacks”, we see that it provides for the possibility of financing the Cossack societies from the state budget. And there is nothing wrong with that. For example, in the Kuban Cossacks really protect public order in crowded places, at railway stations and near the station territory. If you ask around the locals, they will easily confirm that with the advent of Cossack patrols, the streets really became calmer. In this regard, the Krasnodar Territory is even envied by residents of another neighboring Cossack region, Rostov, where it has not yet been possible to achieve such a scale of cooperation between the Cossacks and law enforcement agencies (although on the Don the Cossacks are increasingly being attracted to policing, patrolling territories, etc.)

Interestingly, representatives of the registered Cossacks are now virtually dissociating themselves from the participation of their Cossacks in dispersing the rallies. So, in the media there was information that the Central Cossack army, which is the main Cossack association of the capital and the capital region, did not send its Cossacks to this mass event. In the Department of Regional Security of Moscow from the Cossacks who participated in the fight at the rally, they also hurried to disassociate themselves. According to representatives of the Moscow mayor's office, neither the authorities of the capital, nor the metropolitan police did not attract any Cossacks to protect public order at mass events, although the mayor's office actively supports Cossack formations, including those engaged in security activities.

However, the atamans of the registered Cossacks do not deny that the Cossacks, “social activists”, that is, representatives of the Cossacks of the non-registrant and uncontrolled by the state, could take part in the action. On the other hand, if the Cossacks serve as police assistants and become witnesses of a mass event whose participants do not obey the police and do not want to disperse, what should the Cossacks do? If they do not have the authority to use force to disperse unauthorized rallies, what is the use of the state of such Cossack formations for the state and why really finance them? In any case, now the last word must be said by representatives of the government. It is time to put an end to the issue of settling the official legal status of the Cossacks, their powers in policing and cooperating with the police.
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  1. apro
    apro 16 May 2018 05: 46
    +63
    Mummers are a convenient tool for the authorities. They are outlawed, as it were, acting as if on their own initiative. But to the advantage of the authorities.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 16 May 2018 06: 09
      +19
      Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state. The titles that go to them are those who were in the army. Then yes, it is possible to increase as in any power structure.
      Quote: apro
      Mummers are a convenient tool for the authorities. They are outlawed, as it were, acting as if on their own initiative. But to the advantage of the authorities.
      1. spirit
        spirit 16 May 2018 06: 45
        +46
        And they didn’t throw these people “in the service” to suppress garbage riots?) But they somehow recall the police from other regions to suppress them, then they will recall it with their own. And as an option, they don’t care who they coddle Navalny or grandmothers with. so more orders will be thrown hi
        1. dSK
          dSK 16 May 2018 09: 04
          +3
          Quote: spirit
          anyway whom to tamper with Navalny or grandmothers

          Schwarzeneggers bully , they are.
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 16 May 2018 19: 45
            +6
            Do not underestimate the Cossacks and their governing bodies. Substituting ourselves is not in their interests. Provocations against them are a fact.
            ... the abusive behavior of the protesters ... it seems that the protesters counted on the negative reaction of the Cossacks. One of the eyewitnesses of those events generally claims that the fight began after one of the Cossacks was thrown sand in the face, which his comrades reacted to.

            Cossacks are not police, they will not tolerate.
            1. AnpeL
              AnpeL 19 May 2018 20: 37
              +1
              Cossacks are not the police. This sounds like another mockery of the helplessness or harmlessness of our police. The guys who serve there (in the police) say that they are really afraid to use not only weapons once again, special equipment will not be available without special need. Then, for six months, unsubscribe from the prosecutor and your own superiors for the only application and, as a rule, will still be punished. But in general, on the agenda, I side with the Cossacks. They threw a little frostbitten and finished lyuley, so of course now we need to be indignant. The question is, who does not like the actions of the Cossacks, those on the side of those who suffered?
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 16 May 2018 10: 07
          +26
          Well, crush any riots - the right thing and necessary. Prancing downs have already destroyed our country more than once; I prefer the Chinese method of communicating with individuals jumping in squares. am
          But with the Cossacks really a serious question. First, the Duma introduced an absolutely stupid law on the Cossacks, where the Cossacks are called a separate people. This is a sure step towards separatism. Secondly, people who are not in the civil service should not be beaten. There are corresponding structures for this. What is happening is wrong. And if someone kills or cripples someone? How will this be qualified? request
          In my opinion, you need to compile a register of Cossacks. For example, to do this as a reserve for the Moscow Region and the Russian Guard. Attach them to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, register the rights and obligations. Fasten the service weapon. Introduce a single Cossack uniform and introduce responsibility for wearing this uniform without a right. That is, to do something between the combatants and reservists. Involve them, if necessary, in the elimination of emergencies or riots. In general, all this should be done legally with clearly defined rights and obligations. But he did not put on his hat and went to beat his muzzle. This is just a hooligan, and therefore wrong. hi
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 04
            +14
            Quote: g1v2
            Attach them to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, register the rights and obligations.

            when will they work?
            Quote: g1v2
            Fix service weapon

            events in Kushchevskaya showed- not in horse feed. They shoot each other, God be with them, but here is another class koknut- trouble.
            Quote: g1v2
            That is, to do something between the combatants and reservists.

            either-or fail. One ... sit on two chairs. In Russia, the number of police officers is higher than the roof. Why else super cops?
          2. Berber
            Berber 16 May 2018 15: 11
            +9
            I agree with you - in the Cossacks mess. I don’t really like the current ones. Yes, more mummers than ideological ones. In general, the role of the Cossacks is underestimated. The Urals, Siberia and the Far East are the smallest merit of the Cossacks. History is contradictory, there are shameful spots, which I do not deny. But I think Russia without Cossacks, in its current form, would not exist.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 16 May 2018 19: 25
              +11
              Quote: BerBer
              The Urals, Siberia and the Far East are the smallest merit of the Cossacks.

              those Cossacks were completely different.
              The current are born and they are all the same, that Cossack and Mercedes. They didn’t stand nearby, clowns
              1. Berber
                Berber 17 May 2018 08: 19
                +2
                Those generations of Cossacks are neither better nor worse than us, just different. Sholokhov re-read there are characters.
                And as for the mummers, the Cossacks have a passion for military uniforms and military service. And if he became an officer, then in general ... Therefore, I partially understand. The bad news is that they turned into a farce what really can serve Russia.
            2. SASHA OLD
              SASHA OLD 16 May 2018 22: 25
              +4
              So it might be better to leave just a good memory about them than to try now to give official clowns to Cossacks who have a very indirect relationship
          3. Babalaykin
            Babalaykin 16 May 2018 23: 44
            0
            Then you need to feed them, MVDshnikam share the budget, as well as small costs.

            In fact, at the pasture, I think that the money that is allocated is only enough for org. structure + form.
        3. raw174
          raw174 16 May 2018 13: 38
          +7
          I’m not of the best opinion about the current Cossacks, an unclear structure, with incomprehensible goals, but yours
          Quote: spirit
          they don’t care whom to taunt Navalny or grandmothers.

          I personally outraged! You insult people out of the blue. The justification of the prosecution is required ... And tell me, when there were riots in Russia, the police from other regions took to suppress them, I just don’t know ...
          1. Alber
            Alber 16 May 2018 14: 46
            +2
            Quote: raw174
            I’m not of the best opinion about the current Cossacks, an unclear structure, with incomprehensible goals, but yours

            The real Cossacks were destroyed according to the "Directive on the extermination of the Cossacks" signed by the executioner of the Russian people, Zionofascist Sverdlov Yakov Mikhaylych (or rather, Yankel Moishevich)
          2. Sergei3
            Sergei3 16 May 2018 14: 53
            +9
            In Vladivostok, there were rallies after the introduction of new customs duties on cars.
            Judging by the majority of media publications, the Moscow riot police was brought there, as the locals refused to disperse the unauthorized meetings of their citizens. But all the same, the riot police, who are in the service, although from a different region, and people in military uniforms if they bought it for themselves, have appropriated ranks and orders to themselves, this is already an "illegal formation" and he should only give him weapons and now .. It’s that with the connivance of Yeltsin arose in Chechnya in the 90s. Basayev also said at first some sort of “tasks” helped the government to solve.
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        4. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 23 May 2018 18: 48
          0
          for this there is the Rosguard
      2. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 16 May 2018 07: 13
        +34
        Quote: 210ox
        Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state

        Do they have official status, have the right to use force, weapons against other citizens of the Russian Federation?
        But most importantly, what is their service of sovereign? If also like 100 years ago, in this:
        In 1905-1907 Cossacks of the second stage were mobilized by the tsarist government to carry out public order policing, which consisted in the dispersal of the period political manifestations and strikes, the protection of state institutions, enterprises, landowners' estates and other objects
        .
        - then, we can confidently say that what follows will be something like this:
        formed a negative attitude towards the Cossacks as "satraps" of the tsarist regime. Subsequently, this negative attitude resulted in the tragedy of the Cossacks
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 05
          +8
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          we can confidently say that what follows will be something like this:
          formed a negative attitude towards the Cossacks as "satraps" of the tsarist regime. Subsequently, this negative attitude resulted in the tragedy of the Cossacks

          driving through the Krasnodar Territory for some reason I think so
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 11: 53
          +9
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          But most importantly, what is their service of sovereign? If also like 100 years ago, in this

          The fact of the matter is that Cossacks are always on the outskirts and recently annexed lands. And before, Cossacks were always at the forefront of the movement for the rights of the people, the same peasant war of Stepan Razin, but when they began to speak out against ordinary people, here the "tragedy of the Cossacks" happened. And the Cossacks of Moscow, and even more so of St. Petersburg, is generally a delirium of some kind, even for Tsarist Russia
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 46
            +6
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            And the Cossacks of Moscow, and even more so of St. Petersburg, is generally a delirium of some kind, even for Tsarist Russia

            My former classmate, not very smart, served in the police under Ukraine. And after 2014, he sharply became a Cossack and immediately put on colonel epaulettes. True, I never stopped thumping
      3. Per se.
        Per se. 16 May 2018 07: 39
        +35
        Quote: 210ox
        They are called those who were in the army. Then yes, an increase is possible as in any power structure.
        This is where they deserve such titles, and that for the "awards", for what "feats"?
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          1. Vladivostok1969
            Vladivostok1969 16 May 2018 09: 10
            +5
            Thanks. To the point. laughing
        2. rkkasa xnumx
          rkkasa xnumx 16 May 2018 08: 19
          +15
          Quote: Per se.
          This is where they deserve such titles, and that for the "awards", for what "feats"?

          Evil tongues claim that in the "saints" of the 90s, Kozitsyn, for example, was spotted in collaboration with Dudaev:

          www.panorama.ru/works/patr/kdoc/K1.html
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 11: 54
            +10
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Evil tongues claim that in the "saints" of the 90s, Kozitsyn, for example, was spotted in collaboration with Dudaev:

            Strelkov Kozitsyna, always watered, said that the Cossacks fought in the rear, with vodka and chickens, and were closer to the advanced unit
            1. AleBors
              AleBors 16 May 2018 12: 52
              +10
              The Kozitsinsky were hired by the oligarchs. They acted as PMCs. They covered the drug business and robbed the peaceful. I’m talking about what I know.
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 06
          +14
          Quote: Per se.
          This is where they deserve such titles, and that for the "awards", for what "feats"?

          bought a machine tool and riveting orders. Previously, they were punished for the illegal carrying of orders, but now they rivet and hang on the chest, and you can .....
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 16 May 2018 14: 57
            +5
            Quote: Silvestr
            bought a machine tool and riveting orders. Previously, they were punished for the illegal carrying of orders

            These are not orders, they are badges similar to orders. I, here, something did not meet the law on illegal carrying badges.
            In general, the situation is complicated, I know both the registry and the "mummers", and I treat the clowns calmly, well, I did not play enough in the "war game" in childhood, what can I do. Everyone has their weaknesses. But to declare with aplomb that the Cossacks are all over; just because some kind of over-aged, or even elderly, child put on a hat and hung with "medals" - wrong!
            1. Berber
              Berber 16 May 2018 17: 02
              +4
              The problem is that there is no state policy on Cossacks. Why raise problems for yourself in the form of a new political force. Therefore, the topic at the level of folklore suits the authorities.
        4. Captain45
          Captain45 16 May 2018 16: 49
          +4
          Quote: Per se.
          This is where they deserve such titles, and that for the "awards", for what "feats"?

          I know, I know .... I saw a kiosk at the Kazan railway station in Moscow, so you can buy not such orders there laughing
        5. avt
          avt 18 May 2018 17: 07
          +2
          Quote: Per se.
          This is where they deserve such titles, and that for the "awards", for what "feats"?
          Cossack walked off into the distance.
          On the chest was a medal:

          "For courage", "For the victory",
          "For a pleasant chat,"
          "For the scientific works"
          "For the protection of the whole environment",
          two astronaut medals,
          Warcraft player order,
          putting the TRP symbol,
          "Passage THAT",
          Pregnancy Club "Crane",
          Wardrobe DK "Hydraulics",
          "Altavista dot com",
          "Society of fungus patients",
          The captain of the game "Zarnitsa"
          "Gomel mental hospital",
          snuffbox, and flint,
          eight caps from beer,
          "Gypsy Dance Festival"
          "Crane operator, work in a helmet!"
          "Beware of the bike,"
          "Thirty-eight Years of Victory"
          Order of the RSFSR,
          secret order "Templar"
          gum liner "Lyolik-Bolik"
          "Anonymous alcoholic",
          "Club of wine connoisseurs",
          Symbol of shit punk,
          SUSE-Linux, Business Tim,
          “Tynda is a twin city”
          "The most experienced driver"
          "The best boar-maker",
          sign "Honorary diver",
          sticker "Putin-"
          Oktyabryatskaya star,
          "The heroine mother of labor"
          blood type, and Ay-Pi,
          and the pacific on the chain.

          Suddenly a Cossack slipped ...
          And medals - herak!
          And now medals are all
          rolled on the highway.

          Kids! Uncles, aunts!
          If you find anywhere:

          Order of Glory, Order of Peace,
          a button with the coat of arms of Algeria,
          bauble, can opener,
          malachite brooch,
          Red Cross, Peter's Cross
          "City of Prague", "City of Brest",
          "Regimental Nurse",
          "Childhood is a wonderful time,"
          Esperanto, CSKA,
          Forester’s personal number
          cufflinks to military uniform
          "The best turner", "Exhaust is normal",
          "Lose weight in five minutes"
          Youth club "Sohnud",
          "KGB", "Honorary Donor",
          “Elena Bonner Private Foundation”,
          "Chechen Fashion Festival",
          ticker fidoshnoj nody -

          even a medal, even a badge
          Share with the Cossack!

      4. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 16 May 2018 08: 59
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state.

        So the author calls to figure out where the mummers are and where not. And what are their rights and obligations.
      5. your1970
        your1970 16 May 2018 09: 56
        +26
        Quote: 210ox
        Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state. The titles that go to them are those who were in the army. Then yes, it is possible to increase as in any power structure.
        - These people have no legal relation to the state. Therefore, any of their actions to disperse rallies is illegal !!
        about the ranks, there’s a little lower image of the man with the ranks and awards. I just don’t understand one thing — he’s modest;
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 07
          +11
          Quote: your1970
          these people have no legal relation to the state. Therefore, any of their actions to disperse rallies is illegal !!

          to point
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 16 May 2018 19: 29
          +5
          these people have no legal relation to the state. Therefore, any of their actions to disperse rallies is illegal !!

          But they did not disperse. They stood themselves, peacefully smoked fighting comrades. Suddenly some kind of shushera begins to insult. They got the whip and put on the cradles. Paratroopers, border guards, and any normal guys with or without uniform would do the same.
          But those who wipe the spit in such a situation and begin to call the police, become "patience", which we see not only in the vastness of our homeland, but also in Europe.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 02
            +11
            Quote: glory1974
            But those who wipe the spit in such a situation and begin to call the police, become "patient"

            and even better to get from the legs of Kalashnikov and the Cossacks, the entire store. How? Will it fit? Without police, amicably talked.
            1. EwgenyZ
              EwgenyZ 17 May 2018 13: 02
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              and even better to get from the legs of Kalashnikov and the Cossacks, the entire store. How? Will it fit? Without police, amicably talked.

              There are a lot of such heroes of “Kalashnikov from pants”, and how so that and pants wet. You would have blurted out there at the rally, it would be interesting. Here are all the heroes.
            2. Glory1974
              Glory1974 17 May 2018 19: 56
              +2
              and even better to get from the legs of Kalashnikov and the Cossacks, the entire store. How? Will it fit?

              Not. Not suitable. Any good idea can be brought to senility.
              Give "on the neck", and kill completely different things.
          2. telobezumnoe
            telobezumnoe 16 May 2018 23: 36
            +8
            at least one Cossack cops went overboard? otherwise I’ll go out with a chain, start lashing people, well, like they looked at me askew, and law enforcement officers will look from the side, like for a moment, they ran into themselves.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 May 2018 23: 45
              0
              Quote: telobezumnoe
              at least one Cossack cops went overboard?

              Those who waved with a whip, other Cossacks then unfastened. More precisely, everyone who was there. Type punished.
      6. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 16 May 2018 11: 29
        +17
        Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state

        Yah? Can you tell me what normative act regulates the use of these clowns by nagayki and since when has the nudity become a special tool? From the point of view of the law, this is the most natural crime
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 16 May 2018 19: 32
          +4
          Can you tell me what normative act regulates the use of these clowns by nagayki and since when has the nudity become a special tool?

          In the Stavropol Territory, Cossacks guard not only schools, discos, holidays with whips, but also with smoothbore weapons. It is regulated by common sense and the desire of local residents to protect themselves from the lawlessness of “snub-nosed” guys.
          1. your1970
            your1970 16 May 2018 23: 28
            +9
            Quote: glory1974
            In the Stavropol Territory, Cossacks guard not only schools, discos, holidays with whips, but also with smoothbore weapons. It is regulated by common sense and the desire of local residents to protect themselves from the lawlessness of “snub-nosed” guys.
            -those. just illegally being with weapons in places of public events? local authorities can not direct the work of the police into the mainstream of law, but are engaged in lawlessness?
            Fun however ....
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 17 May 2018 00: 01
              +1
              Quote: your1970
              -those. are simply illegally in arms at public venues?

              They may have such a right. Kuban definitely have, for example. That is, they are given the right to establish a private security organization.
              1. your1970
                your1970 17 May 2018 09: 01
                +2
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Can have that right. Kuban definitely have, for example. That is, they are given the right to establish private security organization.
                -
                the second part is more important than the first. If there is legal entity with the appropriate license and access to arms(and this is not regulated "common sense and desire of the locals "-a by the relevant legislation) - then as much as you like. And this PSC can be called at least the "Third Cossack detachment in the campaign for the freedom of Mexico from Tegucigalpa" or "Stepan-Gulima Day-procession through taverns" - PSC, he is also in Africa PSC.

                But not incomprehensible chatter with weapon in discotheques and schools it is not clear who ....
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 17 May 2018 09: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: your1970
                  And not an incomprehensible march with weapons at discotheques and schools, it is not clear who ...

                  In general, Google, at the Terek Cossack Army Society (Stavropol), also has a private security company. But, in general, by law, all Cossack societies included in the register can create these private security companies. Probably all 11 have reluctance to look.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 17 May 2018 11: 24
                    +2
                    here I am about the same thing - absolutely legal Private security companies (well, with their attributes may be), otherwise
                    Quote: glory1974
                    glory1974 (glory)
                    it turns out that almost citizens with double-barreled shotguns run around discos neglected ...
                    By the way, the Cossacks themselves recognize ILLEGALITY the actions of their eagles at the rally-reporting that they supposedly flogged them as punishment.
            2. Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 14: 13
              +1
              according to the law on weapons, persons involved in organizing security events (private security guards, military teams, Cossacks) have the right to carry firearms if they are legally owning them. The use of weapons is also regulated by this law, that is, for self-defense and protection of citizens.
          2. varangian
            varangian 22 May 2018 15: 44
            0
            In the course that later their Cossacks publicly pulled these Cossacks for the action described above?
      7. Semen1972
        Semen1972 16 May 2018 13: 33
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state

        Like "vacationers"?))) Does the state lack its own funds ???? It is very interesting ... And why does the state deny them .. or is it so customary for the state .. it’s "nastamnet"?
      8. Volodya Nigmetov
        Volodya Nigmetov 16 May 2018 15: 13
        +4
        I have nothing against the Cossacks. But any law enforcement organization should be given the exact status of law of form and, most importantly, responsibilities of the Cossacks. All this is still quite vague if the state and the Duma do not pay due attention to this, this masquerade with form and independence can end badly. the Cossacks it is already who wants it or not) there are always willing to use for their own purposes And who said that the goals will always be good? The history of Russia shows that there were different things with the Cossacks. So let's give this essentially noble popular movement basically those forms and directions that (the Russians) will not disappoint us in the future. And when Cossacks meet law-abiding citizens somewhere, they will not raise questions about their status, but only positive ones. emotions
      9. ARES623
        ARES623 16 May 2018 19: 15
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        as in any power structure.

        And what is this "power structure"? Which ministry (department) is subordinate and structurally included? Some kind of partisanism. Around this “power structure” there is more disorder than good. She is superfluous in the law enforcement system. The props are problematic, and nothing more.
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 14: 15
          0
          the Cossack registers are the power structure of the state and are subordinate to the state power of the region, or to local authorities, state institutions that have concluded an agreement with them to perform certain functions in the order that these functions are performed
          1. ARES623
            ARES623 17 May 2018 16: 32
            +2
            Quote: vladimir1155
            the Cossack registers are the power structure of the state and are subordinate to the state power of the region, or to local authorities, state institutions that have concluded an agreement with them

            Sorry, you have no idea what a "power structure" is. These mummers can participate in the protection of public order as a combatant, i.e. walk, watch and be understood. Even threatening with a finger is beyond his authority, and, as a rule, his educational level. The only privilege is to serve in the RA in units with the name "Cossack". Power structures can be subordinated only to the state, to no regional or municipal (local) bodies. So far, in our state, thank God, a monopoly on the use of force in the hands of the state. That is to create a private security company, in accordance with the Federal Law, they can, like any other company that has a license for this. They can conclude agreements with state institutions in accordance with the legislation on public procurement (44FZ) if they win the contract at the auction, and then only for the types of activities prescribed in the license, and after appropriate training.
    2. renics
      renics 16 May 2018 06: 45
      +21
      What tool are you talking about, all that you wrote is from the point of view of a street crowd. And here you need to look from the point of view of the law that exists, otherwise such lawlessness can lead to the same events as in Ukraine, where all sorts of formations, as well as a separate handful of people, including from the criminal environment, take over the functions of state bodies. For all public groups, no laws provide for such actions, as no one has endowed them with the functions of bodies for the protection of public order. And those officials who, in this way, even if they attract one of them, act in excess of their power official duties, and this is also a criminal liability. But only from such a position such events should be considered, and not from the position of a street crowd.
      1. Chaos
        Chaos 16 May 2018 08: 09
        +30
        Public order protection is the police. This is spelled out in the police law. Neither PSCs nor Cossacks have the authority to do so. Cossacks do not know the laws, for example, the use of special. funds against people, administrative code, criminal. So what kind of lyad throws them to disperse the crowd. Cossacks must have a certificate issued by the Russian Guard after passing the exam on knowledge of the laws. Following the example of a private guard certificate. And so it’s just mummers.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 08
          +6
          Quote: Chaos
          Cossacks must have a certificate issued by the Russian Guard after passing the knowledge of the law

          and what certificate to hard workers in this case? From the union of sexual minorities? We must work, parasites, work.
        2. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 14: 22
          +1
          you are wrong, law enforcement officers can be engaged in law enforcement within their powers (under the law on DND), and Cossacks can be soldiers if they have concluded an agreement on this with the local authorities. Under the law on DND, exams are not provided, the nosing is not special means and the forces are not used special means, a piece of a national uniform, like a checker, a dagger, and it can be worn anywhere. A Cossack has the right to purchase a long-barrel firearm, but it cannot be brought to events, but injuries can occur if he is involved in guarding this particular event. If the Cossack simply came to the rally, then he has no right to have an injury with him, but if he walked past the rally on his own business, he had it.
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 16 May 2018 08: 02
      +13
      Citizens outraged by the violation of order and their right to rest spoke out against unauthorized pdnk. In this case, the citizens turned out to be Cossacks .. Those. the public reacted.
      Peskohrustov makes a mess, but normal people, no.
      And well done Cossacks! hi
      1. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 16 May 2018 09: 08
        +31
        As the Dagestanis raped the Cossacks, so they fled to the police. As the schoolchildren decided to rebel at the monument - so their whips. Cossacks, of course, well done. Cope with the children.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 16 May 2018 11: 41
          +8
          Quote: forty-eighth
          As the Dagestanis raped the Cossacks, so they fled to the police. As the schoolchildren decided to rebel at the monument - so their whips. Cossacks, of course, well done. Cope with the children.

          Of course, well done: you must admonish half-witted horses.
          Cossacks are the only non-military who fought for their rights in Chechnya .. All the remaining forty-eight gave themselves to be raped, killed, robbed and expelled.
          1. forty-eighth
            forty-eighth 16 May 2018 12: 29
            +10
            God bless you so that your children will not fall under the arms of these mummers. And then you know for yourself - at first they beat children with whips, and then they take rifles against the current government. The bad blood of Krasnov, Shkuro and the rest of the memorable.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 16 May 2018 12: 58
              +7
              Quote: forty-eighth
              God bless you so that your children will not fall under the arms of these mummers.

              God grant that when they beat you with impunity, rob, etc. -near the Cossacks were.
              Quote: forty-eighth
              And then you know for yourself - at first they beat children with whips, and then they take rifles against the current government. The bad blood of Krasnov, Shkuro and the rest of the memorable.

              The wonderful blood of the Cossacks forced them to take rifles and destroy your apfelbaum, zalkinda and letterhead and other memorable, which overthrew the legitimate Russian government. hi
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 16 May 2018 15: 34
                +10
                Quote: Olgovich
                The wonderful blood of the Cossacks forced them to take rifles and destroy your apfelbaum, zalkinda and letterhead and other memorable, which overthrew the legitimate Russian government.

                Yeah, yeah ... but at the same time to divide Russia into all kinds of Don Troops Territories there. And to write to the head of state with whom Russia was formally at war with a request to recognize the neutrality of the Don Army and help expand its borders to Tsaritsyn - in exchange for neutrality, the provision of the most favored nation treatment for German industrialists and the supply of food to Germany (in violation of the Entente’s blockade of Germany ) wink
                By the way, in Yugoslavia in WWII, Cossacks also apfelbaum, zalkinda and forms destroyed?
                1. your1970
                  your1970 16 May 2018 23: 34
                  +5
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Yeah, yeah ... but at the same time to divide Russia into all kinds of Don Troops Territories there.
                  -And before that, on the 3rd day of the February Revolution they came to swear allegiance to the new government. And the king was the godfather of all the children of the military personnel of this same Cossack convoy of his own. They betrayed them at the expense of one or two ...
                2. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 17 May 2018 09: 19
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Yeah, yeah ... but at the same time to divide Russia into all kinds of Don Troops Territories there. And to write to the head of state with whom Russia was formally at war with a request to recognize the neutrality of the Don Army and help expand its borders to Tsaritsyn - in exchange for neutrality, the provision of the most favored nation treatment for German industrialists and the supply of food to Germany (in violation of the Entente’s blockade of Germany )

                  What kind of, excuse me, bullshit?
                  The Don Army area existed before the Thief, as did the Terek Region (see the territorial division of the Republic of Ingushetia).
                  What is the state of war after ... Brest peace?
                3. Alber
                  Alber 17 May 2018 11: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  The wonderful blood of the Cossacks forced them to take rifles and destroy your apfelbaum, zalkinda and letterhead and other memorable, which overthrew the legitimate Russian government.

                  Yeah, yeah ... but at the same time to divide Russia into all kinds of Don Troops Territories there. And to write to the head of state with whom Russia was formally at war with a request to recognize the neutrality of the Don Army and help expand its borders to Tsaritsyn - in exchange for neutrality, the provision of the most favored nation treatment for German industrialists and the supply of food to Germany (in violation of the Entente’s blockade of Germany ) wink
                  By the way, in Yugoslavia in WWII, Cossacks also apfelbaum, zalkinda and forms destroyed?

                  I wonder why your brothers and Jews hate the Cossacks so much.
                  Whistling whip and stroking it in a soft place of rest does not give?
                4. EwgenyZ
                  EwgenyZ 17 May 2018 13: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Yeah, yeah ... but at the same time to divide Russia into all kinds of Don Troops Territories there.

                  Those. it’s possible to divide Tatarstan or Boskortostan into all kinds of places, but the Don Army is "mule with poppy seeds". Yeah, the Bolshevik morality triumphs - there can be no Russian nationals!
              2. Korax71
                Korax71 16 May 2018 15: 38
                +5
                And yet, at one time, in our city on an area of ​​about a hundred people, the Cossacks chopped up both the supporters and opponents of the tsar, not really understanding. Yes, and let's be honest, the Cossacks are strong, while the state with representatives loyal to him is behind him law. youngsters with a whack to hammer a crowd, they can. try to spud an adult, healthy man, the gut is thin.
            2. Alber
              Alber 16 May 2018 14: 59
              +5
              Quote: forty-eighth
              against the current government take rifles in their hands. The bad blood of Krasnov, Shkuro and the rest of the memorable.

              But the "blue blood" of Trotsky-Bronstein, the Yankels of the Sverdlovs, Shai Goloshekins, the Vaibards, the Yankels of the Yurovsky, the Blumkins and other abominations spilled rivers and seas of blood of the Russian people, destroying tens of millions of people
          2. albert
            albert 16 May 2018 21: 15
            +7
            Quote: Olgovich
            Cossacks are the only non-military who fought for their rights in Chechnya ..

            Bu-ha-ha, monarchist. They made fun. All the fate of the dunks in both Chechen wars. It was limited to logging on the Chechen side of the Terek. The mummers could not do anything else.
      2. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 16 May 2018 10: 03
        +22
        Citizens outraged by the violation of order and their right to rest spoke out against unauthorized pdnk. In this case, the citizens turned out to be Cossacks .. Those. the public reacted.
        Peskohrustov makes a mess, but normal people, no.
        And well done Cossacks! hi

        Well, you safely get a whip between the shoulder blades from such fellows.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 16 May 2018 11: 19
          +4
          Quote: Vladivostok1969
          Well, and you safely lash between the shoulder blades get from such fellows.

          Well, to you, in this case, in general everywhere hi
        2. raw174
          raw174 16 May 2018 13: 51
          +10
          Quote: Vladivostok1969
          Well, you safely get a whip between the shoulder blades from such fellows.

          And you don’t need to hang around at unauthorized rallies, people will show a joke, all the more they have allocated a place for jumping!
          1. Vladivostok1969
            Vladivostok1969 16 May 2018 15: 11
            +3
            Do you know statistics how often our authorities prohibit social events? We do not consider permits for LGBT demonstrations.
            1. raw174
              raw174 17 May 2018 06: 37
              +3
              Quote: Vladivostok1969
              Do you know statistics how often our authorities prohibit social events?

              No, I was not interested. But specifically, navalists are allowed and allocated places ...
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 10
        +16
        Quote: Olgovich
        And well done Cossacks!

        of course well done! They don’t work, they hang on the neck of the budget. Why the hell are they hanging around in Moscow? Maybe it's time to go home, to the earth?
        1. raw174
          raw174 17 May 2018 06: 40
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          Maybe it's time to go home, to the earth?

          At one time in our town of Magnitogorsk, Cossacks began to demand land in order to resume their work on the land, they say they even gave it to someone in the suburbs, but they quickly built it up and sold the cottages. I know from the words, because I can not vouch, but why not ...
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    4. manne mann
      manne mann 16 May 2018 15: 45
      +6
      You yourself are a mummer! The suits are liberal, it’s just that you need to deal with the people, I’ve been asking ten people for a long time and to show you, bulk six, how they put in place! And you’re used to being offended by life that the cops don’t touch you, but here the Cossacks turned up, but believe me, you will fall into the hands of the people, you will cry for the Cossacks!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 01
        +11
        Quote: manne mann
        and then the Cossacks turned up

        straight from the Crimea turned up, flashed past, saw, decided to help
        Quote: manne mann
        fall into the hands of the people, you will cry for the Cossacks!

        remember how the Cossacks proletariat chopped sabers.
        If the police aren’t working, then down with this police. What prevents a collective farmer from getting into a tractor and crushing your mummers? For every power there is another power. It is necessary for parasites to work, and not to replace the police.
        Quote: manne mann
        to you, the sixes of bulk show how to put in place!

        wrinkle your mind sir! Bulk gets his salary in the Kremlin, so that people like you keep in a state of excitement. When there is an enemy, then you can even blame yourself on it
        1. dSK
          dSK 16 May 2018 19: 45
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          When there is an enemy, then you can even blame yourself on it
          Are you talking about yourself?
          We found enemies "out of the blue."
          Quote: Silvestr
          It is necessary for parasites to work
          Where does Navalny “work”? There are allowed places for rallies. And provocateurs must be put in place. During the war they were "put up against the wall."
          1. dSK
            dSK 16 May 2018 20: 05
            +3
            The Cossacks, who applied whips to protesters on Alexei Navalny’s shares on May 5, were punished with flogging. This was stated by RBC ancestral Cossack and the author of the blog for the Cossacks "Chronicles of the Box" Vasily Yashchikov.
            “We have our own traditions that unite us. We gathered as Cossacks of the “Crimean Regiment” and “The First Combined Officer Plastun Hundred” made conclusions, analyzed what had happened. We really punished those two Cossacks who used the nipples on Pushkin Square, there were only two whips for 35 Cossacks", - the interlocutor explained RBC. He added that the Cossacks were punished for restraint. According to Yashchikov, the same as usual, punished for drunkenness and for improper treatment of his wife. “First, the offender is baptized in front of the icon, lies on the bench, then they must unfasten it. Then he gets up and says: “Thank you, brothers, for science,” he is baptized again and gets back into the ranks - these are our centuries-old traditions, ”said Yashchikov.
            “Cossacks are warriors, but they should not constantly fight. When we choose our chieftain, we will also kill him with whips, ”he added.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 08
              +9
              Quote: dsk
              When we choose our chieftain, we will also kill him with whips. ”

              GARDEN and MASOCHISTS, however.
              Quote: dsk
              Cossacks are warriors

              yeah, especially in Kushchevskaya!
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 05
            +5
            Quote: dsk
            Are you talking about yourself?
            We found enemies "out of the blue."

            so do you think: fellow citizens are enemies
            Quote: dsk
            Where does Navalny “work”? There are allowed places for rallies. And provocateurs must be put in place. During the war they were "put up against the wall."

            so it turns out that the parasite is beaten. And along the way, everyone standing nearby. And in the war of such Cossacks to the wall, first of all, for arbitrariness. There is power, and who are your mummers? Lobotryas. Who pays money to them? Either a bandit or a budget. These mummers fatten on my taxes
            1. dSK
              dSK 16 May 2018 22: 48
              +4
              Quote: Silvestr
              And in the war of such Cossacks to the wall in the first place

              1. New Year day
                New Year day 16 May 2018 23: 18
                +7
                you do not align those Cossacks with the current. From your mummers Cossacks as from a feces bullet. They fought and worked, created the power of the country, and the mummers thump, they do not work anywhere and try to swing rights.
                1. dSK
                  dSK 17 May 2018 01: 46
                  +2
                  35 "mummers" successfully stood against three hundred mercenary provocateurs and this is only "first swallow". In London alone, but in Moscow three "Hyde Park", where you can at least round the clock to express their ideas. There, and gather the "right to download", there is nothing to "get under the feet" of adequate residents of the capital.
              2. Freeman
                Freeman 17 May 2018 12: 31
                +4
                Quote: dsk
                Quote: Silvestr
                And in the war of such Cossacks to the wall in the first place


                Sorry, but you inserted the wrong photo.
                Here is the correct photo of those who are "to the wall"

                Threat. Since you did not leave any of your comments under the photo, it is unclear how to understand you.
        2. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 17 May 2018 13: 25
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          remember how the Cossacks proletariat chopped sabers.

          Yes Yes. The proletariat is allowed to destroy only the Soviet army, we also remember.
          Quote: Silvestr
          What prevents a collective farmer from getting into a tractor and crushing your mummers?

          Well, if you put the collective farmer on a par with the liberal provocateurs, then the "collective farmer on a tractor" will drive through you sooner than by order.
          Quote: Silvestr
          Bulk gets his salary in the Kremlin, so that people like you keep in a state of excitement.

          Can you document your words? Or otherwise, you are banal n ..., well, in general, a person telling lies!
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 17 May 2018 10: 10
        +2
        Quote: manne mann
        You yourself are a mummer!

        Cossacks also lit up in the LPR, robbed and raped until they drove them away with a broom)) Gopngiks are ordinary, they will run into time, mark them out for a sweet soul, and no "roof" will help "
    5. Ragoz
      Ragoz 17 May 2018 02: 24
      +1
      apro:
      The mummers of the Cossacks are personal unlawful formations of the Kremlin.
    6. shark
      shark 18 May 2018 11: 26
      +3
      More to such mummers. Their methods are correct. Execution is lame. Too soft. With our snickering people, there is no other way. But mummers or not, it doesn’t matter. Glory to God also does the work. And who cares who they beat. Children, not children. Whoever does not agree will either change the point of view or receive. If 91 eltsinoids had been thoroughly flogged, then maybe the USSR would have been intact. And you see, they wanted freedom ...
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 21 May 2018 11: 02
        0
        Quote: shark
        More to such mummers.

        Then they will have to be shot) "Anti-Cossacks") And you expect this, blood in Russia. You won’t wait, we will spit out people like you)
    7. Meshcheryak
      Meshcheryak 18 May 2018 12: 21
      +5
      I have a strong feeling that a critical number of liberal hamsters have settled on my beloved VO, otherwise I can not explain what is happening.
      1. shark
        shark 18 May 2018 12: 36
        +3
        Many hamsters got divorced. Also noticed.
      2. Cyan
        Cyan April 14 2020 03: 48
        0
        For every liberal hamster, there are five pseudo-patriotic experienced hamsters.
  2. samarin1969
    samarin1969 16 May 2018 06: 02
    +19
    The “mummers” here are Gapon-Navalny with his youngsters, and Cossacks with their ethnographic attributes ... If the “RF” really allowed the formation of the Don and Kuban Cossacks, then resonant bandiuks like Tsapok would be the first to feel this, and the whips would moderate their appetites agricultural holdings.
    The creation of the mass Cossacks is the way out in our society. And do not count "by blood", "by clothes." Militarized patriotic hardworking communities are a way out of many problems for Russia.
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 16 May 2018 06: 54
      +35
      You are absolutely right. They can disperse the rally. And they greet hand in hand with the local "hoes."
      1. Warrior Hamilton
        Warrior Hamilton 16 May 2018 09: 57
        +10
        With hoes and bulkers, power should be, i.e. its representatives, to understand. Once again, they set up people and made them a bogeyman. Again, someone is to blame: mummers, cyclists, etc ...... if only they would not interfere with stealing. A lot of screamers and dumplings for the background, more spectacles. .... some strange patriots went: "Bulk - byaka ..... They beat Navalny - mummers, clowns .... We need to figure out who is all the mummers and the clown, and who is a decent person. Who initiates the construction of Yeltsin -centers hanging boards Maringheim? Kolya Urengoy probably has mom-dad Urengoi. Along the perimeter of the border there are only enemies. They kill ambassadors, there is no diplomacy. They steal people, take them to other countries and bring them to trial on some charges ..... And ... silence ... the teeth on the hook ... They rule family clans, rule for decades ... Who generates this? P.indo.sy are to blame! Everything to fight with P.indo.sami .... SchA we are there in in Syria ... complexes ..... The Qatari Igilov pipe will not pass ....... Give: "Urengoy-Pomary-Berlin .... Well, buy, buy our gas, huh? Yes, here's another sadness - we sing badly at Eurovision, just a shame on the jungle ......
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 12
        +9
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        They can disperse the rally. And they greet the hand with the local "hoes."

        as pindalya in the ass will receive, they bow their heads. And with the children are "heroes"! If there are such "defenders" - why do we need the police? Disperse them and leave the mummers with whips
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 11: 56
        +9
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        You are absolutely right. They can disperse the rally. And they greet hand in hand with the local "hoes."

        So about the “hoe” they cried themselves, they say there were few of us, only two hundred, where there are against a dozen “hoe” armed. They can only be seen by the crowd on unarmed
        1. Warrior Hamilton
          Warrior Hamilton 16 May 2018 12: 48
          +5
          For hoes one law, and for two hundred another. Somehow I was not interested in whether there are still such countries where there is a native law, such sayings: "The law is what draws, where it turned and it turned out" or: "The law is taiga, the bear is the master"
          1. your1970
            your1970 18 May 2018 09: 33
            +1
            USA: "if you are rich - the loer will wrap you around, if you are poor - the loyer will surely wrap you around"
            Loyer (lawyer-lawyer-notary - all in one person) take an hourly fee regardless from the results. About US laws - which can be interpreted over the years and turn to the benefit of either side, it’s long been known. The cost of services is taken into account in calculating US GDP, so this is crazy money)
            1. Warrior Hamilton
              Warrior Hamilton 20 May 2018 19: 14
              0
              Yes, you won’t run to the regional trade union and party committees, netuti ..... bully
  3. 210ox
    210ox 16 May 2018 06: 06
    +14
    Yes, do not care about the opposition .. Why are so worried about fate fate. They gave the snot and did it right. It does not matter who.
    1. Monetniy
      Monetniy 16 May 2018 06: 15
      +6
      For centuries, the law has not been the same for all of us, let’s consolidate and will not strive for equality, we have traditionally spit and trample on rights and freedoms, and traditions need to be honored !!!
      1. renics
        renics 16 May 2018 06: 51
        +7
        If everything, like you will spit on the law, then why all this is your indignation. It turns out that you spit on the law and at the same time are also outraged by this state of affairs, this is already a plot for a joke.
        1. Monetniy
          Monetniy 16 May 2018 08: 58
          +4
          It was sarcasm, I agree with you that in such cases it is necessary to act according to the law. Like many sensible people, I want to live in a fair and just state, and such events are a rollback.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 16 May 2018 06: 29
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      .... Why are so worried about fate fate. Given the snot and correctly.
      In the pictures --- provoked, provoked! What is the problem?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 29
        +7
        Quote: Reptiloid
        In the pictures --- provoked, provoked! What is the problem?

        the problem is that only the state should have the right to violence. And then the mummers and the state? So we will reach personal armies. How do bandits differ from mummers? The same gangsters, but with a whip. And someone will take a screw cutter for a screw. What's next?
    3. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 16 May 2018 06: 55
      +30
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, do not care about the opposition .. Why are so worried about fate fate. They gave a snot and did the right thing. It does not matter who

      Today, "no matter who" gave a snot of bulk. And tomorrow, “it doesn’t matter who” will give the snot to hard workers who want to live a little better.
      In this case, will you justify the actions of such formations?
      1. manne mann
        manne mann 16 May 2018 15: 52
        +3
        You heard a ringing and make yourself a wise guy! Understand, first, what happened, and I wish you to turn up once for you and your family during a walk, the rusted bulk! There we will see how you will talk!
        1. Deck
          Deck 16 May 2018 18: 14
          +6
          And if the overgrown Cossacks turn up? He may endure in bulk, but the Cossack people will drive them to their villages with kicks. Like in the twenties.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 59
            +7
            Quote: Deck
            and the Cossack people will drive to their villages with kicks

            maybe Comrade Lenin was right on the question of the Cossacks?
            1. albert
              albert 16 May 2018 21: 20
              +3
              Quote: Silvestr
              maybe Comrade Lenin was right on the question of the Cossacks?

              Absolutely right. It is not in vain that the Americans in their plans for the collapse of Russia pay special attention to Cossack separatism. They want to create the state "Cossack" in the south of Russia, Dulles spoke about this. It is a pity that Sverdlov did not tell them much.
              1. dSK
                dSK 17 May 2018 01: 12
                +3
                Quote: albert
                Sverdlov few of them "talked"

                Are you his granddaughter?
                1. Deck
                  Deck 17 May 2018 06: 02
                  +2
                  No, we are his followers laughing
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 30
        +5
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        In this case, will you justify the actions of such formations?

        I want to clarify, gang formations
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 58
        +3
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        And tomorrow, “it doesn’t matter who” will give the snot to hard workers who want to live a little better.

        and the hard workers will pick up a file or mounts and regret the civil war!
    4. Fox
      Fox 16 May 2018 07: 07
      +16
      Quote: 210ox
      No matter who.

      so yes ... and tomorrow, these legalized unknowingly wrinkle you, because you don’t look like that, or just don’t like it ... laws are not written. Or only for bydlyakov?
    5. New Year day
      New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 15
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, do not care about the opposition .. Why are so worried about fate fate. They gave the snot and did it right. It does not matter who.

      the right of violence should only be with the state. Why then are Caucasians driven around Moscow? They also establish orders, only their own. What is the difference whose order is Caucasian, Sharia, the main thing is that there is order. So?
      Why did the gangsters calm down? Was the order also, sometimes fairer than the militia?
    6. Freeman
      Freeman 16 May 2018 13: 15
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, do not care about the opposition ..Why are you so worried about fate

      Some teach history

      They gave a snot and did it right.No matter who.

      Very important.
      So you can justify the Ukrainian "Natsik" attacking WWII veterans.
      After all, they also "protect the state, law and order."
    7. Korax71
      Korax71 16 May 2018 15: 48
      0
      And you personally asked each party’s affiliation at a rally. In neta vidos, there’s more than enough where dressed-up boys and young girls are babbling, and without special analysis. Now imagine a situation that someone will use the right of the strong and beat you in the wings only because do you have different views with him? I think it will not be pleasant. hi
    8. would
      would 16 May 2018 17: 14
      +2
      Journalist of the Komsomol beaten by whips "bulk"? belay
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  5. Vard
    Vard 16 May 2018 07: 02
    +13
    We have a tendency to deepen feudal relations in society .. The Cossacks are costly business .. And the form .. And transport .. And so on ... This is all money, and among others, like the police from our pocket ...
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 16 May 2018 07: 03
    +12
    If people want to stop riots, then can riot police not cope? Is he trained and works professionally? Why give a sub-structure a license for violence? Today, he whips around the protesters, and tomorrow ... what will happen tomorrow, Kremlin political strategists it’s as if they don’t fully understand where these lashes can go.
    The state should not be shy to use force, work within the law quickly and clearly. It has all the tools for this. Everything else is a manifestation of incomprehensible craftiness and looks like a slack of the state machine.
  7. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 16 May 2018 07: 06
    +11
    At the beginning of the 90s I saw how lovers of freebies flowed into the Cossacks who were seduced by the promises of EBN. Free land, interest-free loans. I even had to take part in this event to prepare a draft of the village. And it was not even Orenburg, but the middle Urals. They never touched the village, did not hit finger on finger, and our work was empty. Somehow I ask, and where are your horses and sabers .... make at least wooden and checkers in the children's world, buy. As I imagine a squadron on wooden horses and a plastic "cold weapon" in my hands, I immediately feel the "strength of tradition." Well this is so, by the way. Generally Cossack formations in traditional places; The Don, the Kuban Urals, in the Far East, this is undoubtedly the support of the state, and it is very serious. This is a class of war, by definition, which will bring many more benefits to Russia and must be treated with respect, without excesses. Well, they beat the liberal public, I see nothing wrong with that. Already very often with us under the call for freedom and democracy we mean permissiveness. But the Telegram slipped out of bans. Had a sneaky lawsuit dash off
    1. Alber
      Alber 16 May 2018 15: 06
      +2
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Generally Cossack formations in traditional places; The Don, the Kuban Urals, in the Far East, this is undoubtedly the support of the state, and it is very serious. This is a class of war, by definition, which will bring many more benefits to Russia and must be treated with respect, without excesses. Well, they beat the liberal public, I see nothing wrong with that. Already very often with us under the call for freedom and democracy we mean permissiveness.

      They are Zionists, Cossacks across the throat. Interfere with stealing and destroying the country
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 18: 42
        +5
        Quote: Alber
        They are Zionists, Cossacks across the throat. Interfere with stealing and destroying the country

        yeah, they protect the country's assets in such a way that 1 trillion S were taken out, and 10% of the population control 90% of the country's assets. Do not tell me, the Cossacks are fighting Alekperov or Usmanov! So tell me, they want to break off a piece.
        1. Alber
          Alber 17 May 2018 12: 01
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          yeah, so protect the country's heritage that 1 trillion S were taken out, and 10% of the population control 90% of the country's property


          What, the Cossacks exported this trillion?
          Or all the same, your Zionist brothers ...
          Quote: Silvestr
          Cossacks are fighting Alekperov or Usmanov! So tell me, they want to break off a piece of themselves.


          Do not judge by yourself! Everyone knows that capitalist thieves and grabbers oligarchs are 95% Jewish.
          The fact that you take the names of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles, Germans or any other indigenous peoples where you settle down, with the aim of disguising Jewish origin, does not save. Thieves habits, appearance, face structure, good leadership positions, they give out
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 16 May 2018 19: 01
      +4
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Well, they beat the liberal public, I see nothing wrong with that.

      Well then, it’s time to thrash such fighters for “justice”, there’s nothing to be ashamed of. In the country, everyone is equal! Want to get taller than someone? And what if a bulging firebrand and hatchet? What?
  8. renics
    renics 16 May 2018 07: 11
    +7
    All kinds of articles are written with all sorts of tricks, but no one at the same time pays attention or parses this protest rally itself. Although video filming from this rally is enough. Here is one of the many instigators of instigators calling for unrest and coordinating this protest and all similar people seen in this protest in white T-shirts with the same ENGLAND inscriptions with a red cross and an emblem on their sleeves. A buggie around which a moronic small-fry is heaped.
    1. dSK
      dSK 16 May 2018 08: 56
      0
      Criminals all stripes are activated. No wonder they are called so - they act from "around the corner."
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 May 2018 10: 52
      +3
      So I say that you need to flog more. And not the rights of liberals to observe. And the freedom to spoil our lives is excluded from the freedoms of Russian citizens.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 11: 17
        +11
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        So I say that you need to flog more.

        “mummers” - for parasitism
      2. Freeman
        Freeman 16 May 2018 13: 36
        +6
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        So I say that you need to flog more.

        In 1905 they tried. That then the “Cossacks” and “came around” in the Civil ...

        And the freedom to spoil our lives is excluded from the freedoms of Russian citizens.

        Who is this "us"? Whose will you be? Of these?

        1. Comrade Kim
          Comrade Kim 20 May 2018 17: 33
          0
          Quote: Freeman

          In 1905 they tried. What then "Cossacks" and "came around" in the Civil.

          In 1905, the people themselves surrendered rebels near-wing, and the revolution failed largely due to the fact that the majority of agitators sent to raise the people merged with this half-hearted people. Agitators settled in the villages, they wanted to help the people with their labor and knowledge (became teachers, paramedics).
          But the cunning Jewish Bolsheviks took this into account. Realizing that the Russian would not go against the Russian, they began to send agitators of Jewish nationality from the towns. Not burdened with love for Russia, led by the most severe kagalny mode, these agitators have achieved their goal. Brother went to brother.
          Some time ago, reading a book by Stuart Kogan (Kaganovich’s nephew), he was struck with how stubborn and fanatical energy Kaganovich destroyed Orthodoxy and the Cossacks.
          In justification of his bloody uncle, the author of the book mentioned the pogrom, in which several Jews were beaten. The author deliberately distorts the true goal of Kaganovich, the destruction of the soul of the Russian people.
          "In the 30th volume TSB it is written: "Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich was born in the village of Kabany (now Kaganovich) of the Kiev province in a poor Jewish family"
          Meanwhile, in all the pre-revolutionary reference books “All Kiev”, his father Moisey Kaganovich is listed as a wholesale forest merchant, and people did not forget him as a landowner, who in the former village of Kabany owned almost all the lands and the largest shinok in the district. They also remember his stutter-clerk Margolin, who overnight became the master of many ships on the Dnieper. As I. Dizhur, “Jews in the Economic Life of Russia”, published in the “Book on Russian Jewry” published in New York, states in his essay, Moses Kaganovich designed 70% of the total tonnage of the Dnieper shipping in the name of his steward. Understandably, to avoid excessive taxation ... and possible forfeiture. "

          '' After all, as it turned out during the investigation of the “case” of the murder of P.A. Stolypin in Kiev in 1911, it was Moses Kaganovich who secretly held controlling stakes in many restaurants and tolerance houses in Kiev, Kharkov, Elisavetgrad, Yekaterinoslav, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa.

          The killer was Mordka Bogrov, allegedly bought with the money of the St. Petersburg millionaire Mitka Rubinstein, as Grigory Aranson later told in the emigrant newspaper New Russian Word. But Stolypin’s death was wanted not only “in Petersburg”. The fact is that shortly before that, a trial was held in Odessa of a gang of Jewish "merchants" who sold 5 Ukrainian girls to the harems of Turkey (by the way, according to many indications, the "son of a Turkish citizen" Nathan Frenkel was also involved - "father of the GLUGA "). Then, in order not to cause pogroms, Stolypin instructed censorship not to let a single line go by in the press about this court.
          That's exactly when the “poor” Moses Kaganovich got in big trouble with the Kiev gendarmerie and the tax department. So, in order to take revenge on the “bloody tsarist regime” in the same 1911, his son and heir to the dignity of the Khazar Kagan in the 13th tribe Lazar “joined the party in the Kiev organization of the Bolsheviks” (TSB). ''
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 20 May 2018 18: 55
            0
            Comrade Kim (Comrade Kim) Today, 17:33
            "In the 30th volume of TSB it is written: "Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich was born in the village of Kabany (now Kaganovich) of the Kiev province in a poor Jewish family"

            Strange, I have written about it in volume 19 of TSB p. 282.
            "Confused in testimony, dear." So is it worth trusting the rest of your "infe" if you distort easily verifiable facts?
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 11: 59
      0
      Quote: renics
      A buggie around which a moronic small-fry is heaped.

      Yes, what a bull. The usual beer tummy, the pens are thin
  9. Nix1986
    Nix1986 16 May 2018 07: 15
    +23
    He lived 12 years in the Kuban and 10 in Volgograd. I know many Cossacks, only 70% of them are mummers, the rest of the mummies simply don’t have time to go beat the girls with naked boobs. His own business, economy, patronage of orphanages, humanitarian Donbas, classes with schoolchildren, participation through all sorts of common. Organizations in the preservation and development of the Cossacks - museums, exhibitions. Well, the rest will smell like 0,5 Baltics 9 and go in uniform and with a saber and with such an iconostasis of medals that the North Korean general will envy.
    1. andranick
      andranick 16 May 2018 08: 54
      +11
      I can say for myself (as a resident of the Kuban) and my friends. The negative comes from the realization that most of the "mummers" go to the Cossacks for benefits (most, but not all!). In addition, the population is rightly perplexed by the abundance of medals and badges of various forms on the form. Came up here to one, with George. I say where from? Eyes averts, grandfather's, answers. What, grandfather? But what kind of female dog do you have the right to wear awards that you did not deserve personally !? I would cling to him if he did not look away. Well, I was in a "good" mood after the Victory Parade, there the Cossacks screwed up specifically. For me, this is what causes an extremely negative reaction to the “social activists” in the Cossack form, for this is an indicator of their moral and ethical level. And this is the main reason why I am not in the Cossacks, although they offered to join more than once. Benefits - figs with them, even if in the real world it is sometimes a means of survival.
      But I urge the readers of the site to remember the positive side of the Cossacks. Yes, the Kuban took an active part in the annexation of Crimea to Russia. This is a well-known, but not very advertised fact. You can’t say that they went there in a single impulse, but nonetheless. But what everybody absolutely doesn’t remember, or maybe don’t know, is about working with the younger generation. The Kuban Cossack army pays great attention to this issue. There are a lot of Cossack cadet corps that provide excellent education (yeah, try to go there again, the contest - be healthy!), Cossack schools, classes. These are the institutes for the education of patriots. Once again, please keep this in mind. And when they talk about finances poured into the Cossacks - do not forget that the maintenance of this infrastructure is not a very cheap thing, making up a rather large piece of Cossack "financial pie".
      In addition, indeed, there are a huge number of hereditary Cossacks, which for various reasons are not part of the registry. They just live like their grandfathers lived, honor traditions and bring up their children in the same traditions. They do not care for titles, medals, uniforms, etc., they perform their feat of life.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 09: 36
        +10
        I agree with you. Those who work and do their job, they have no time to be clowns. And dressing other people's orders and medals is the last thing. These people clinging to the feats of others defame their ancestors. Therefore, you need to bring everything to the legal track. It is necessary to WORK, but not to hang out on the streets with a whip. And then the hard worker will go out onto the street with a mount, and the surgeon with a scalpel
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 12: 01
      +4
      Quote: Nix1986
      He lived 12 years in the Kuban and 10 in Volgograd. I know many Cossacks, only 70% of them are mummers, the rest of the mummies just don’t have time to go beat the girls with naked boobs.
      I have one friend from Kurgan who has nothing to do with the Cossacks, told how he went to such an organization as a "Cossack", so he was issued a centurion certificate there fellow
  10. Clueless
    Clueless 16 May 2018 07: 57
    +17
    What respect can there be for the Cossacks? Since the 90s, they have been associated with people with mummers clowns who guarded summer cottages, etc.

    And now the police allow these clowns to beat people with whips, moreover, including teenagers, and turn a blind eye to this. What the authorities are seeking, I personally do not understand. Well, ok, will these Cossacks be the sixes of power, and? This current embitter the people once again.

    And when the people become very embittered, they will sweep away the Cossacks, the police, and officials. It is time to stop and live in a state based on conscience and honor, and this should apply to all regions, including Chechnya and Dagestan.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 16 May 2018 09: 32
      +7
      Quote: Bad
      these Cossacks will be the sixes of power

      Yes, they have always been sixes of any power. Who are they in the chieftains? FSB generals. Those. they do the dirty work of organs
  11. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 16 May 2018 08: 32
    +2
    There is only one conclusion ... Cossacks, ALL-in the service of the Sovereign .... there is nothing to vainly lose talents ...
    1. akunin
      akunin 16 May 2018 09: 43
      +1
      at a cost? the sovereign was overthrown in 1917. you do not know?
      1. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 16 May 2018 23: 55
        +1
        Dear ... and the sovereign in Russia was a success, independent of the political system, if not in the courses ... another thing what he was ....
        1. akunin
          akunin 17 May 2018 15: 21
          +1
          don't be nice ...
          and the sovereign in Russia was a success
          not always
          if not in courses
          , and the times of the great turmoil, and the displacement of the "sovereign" who introduced corn to the masses?
    2. Pushkar
      Pushkar 19 May 2018 23: 06
      +1
      Quote: Shiva83483
      There is only one conclusion ... Cossacks, ALL-in the service of the Sovereign .... there is nothing to vainly lose talents ...

      And who should work?
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 May 2018 08: 46
    +10
    To begin with, there are no Cossacks in the country. Absolutely! And this is a parody of football fans, like power has nothing to do with it again.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 16 May 2018 12: 02
      +3
      fans and bikers yet
      1. Warrior Hamilton
        Warrior Hamilton 16 May 2018 13: 08
        0
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        To begin with, there are no Cossacks in the country. Absolutely!
        -
        One of the most important achievements !!!!!!!!! But there is a CHANSON!
        Criminals in the Kremlin Palace of Congresses gather the public: "Vladimir Central is evil nemeryan .... Shalalalala .... bully
  13. New Year day
    New Year day 16 May 2018 09: 22
    +14
    Cossacks must WORK, and not hang around the streets. What are the Cossacks, remember Kushchevskaya. In addition to laughter and discontent, they cause nothing. But these mummers are an instrument in the hands of the authorities. Self-defense still exists in Crimea. From whom? The army and police are ramparting here. What are these clowns for now? But they get a salary - an ordinary mummer of about 20 thousand per month. At whose expense is the banquet? Imitate activity or Aksenov’s pocket army? At the exit from the terminal, those arriving, besides policemen with dogs, are also standing. Healthy, well-fed with crosses on the chest. But they don’t want to work. It's better to hang out, and they get money.
    1. Warrior Hamilton
      Warrior Hamilton 16 May 2018 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: Silvestr
      Cossacks must work, and not hang around the streets

      Sorry, Sylvester, no offense and insults ....... You’re just like the new Andropov ... in pubs, clinics, cinemas and bathhouses, people for ears and for work ..... And where can I find so much work, if Tajiks work work ...? And it’s better to say that the people are drinking, that’s why it doesn’t work and announce a new prohibition so that they can put the next drunkard on the throne ..... Maybe you still appoint the wrong ones? Capitalism, her mother .... where there is money, there are people ... bully
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 20
        +1
        I agree completely with you. Unemployment is not a reason for such tricks. After all, they don’t fight against the Kremlin wall? I have a suspicion that these gentlemen are not even looking for work. What for? when they get paid anyway. And whoever works and supports the family, there simply is no time. I live in Moscow, but I don’t get tired of going to the theaters like a dog, I want peace and quiet. Especially at rallies and May Day celebrations
        1. Warrior Hamilton
          Warrior Hamilton 16 May 2018 22: 38
          +1
          Unfortunately, Moscow is a reserve of political fashion. Meetings, May Day, sitting on rails. helmets pounding on the asphalt, the White House tankodrome, general fighters with alcohol and undeserved drunk conductors - all of it, darling ... bully True reserve, there is someone to take an example from. Why can they, but not us? In short ... Stalin worked and everyone worked, and whoever did not want to work, he worked the most, by the fact that it was cold ... Apparently the people could inspire bully
  14. akunin
    akunin 16 May 2018 09: 41
    +1
    at the expense of provocation: “mummers” are not even curses, they won’t even banned him for “military review”, and there they beat muzzles. Well, mummers, they are like that (the theater of a young spectator). the festivities are over.
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 10: 19
      +1
      Announce the entire list of words for which you can beat the face.
    2. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 10: 21
      +2
      Brezhnev Leonid Ilyich is a veteran of World War II, and not a mummer. Do not be ashamed of you to be rude to a veteran who shed blood for you.
      1. akunin
        akunin 16 May 2018 10: 53
        0
        where did you spill for me?
        1. hhhhhhh
          hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 11: 19
          +2
          In the Great Patriotic War. Or are you one of these ....
          1. akunin
            akunin 16 May 2018 11: 45
            +2
            I didn’t understand, but what place did you spill, and what does Brezhnev have to do with it?
            I read the "small land" where Colonel Brezhnev fought know. man, we say about the "Cossacks" - wake up.
            1. hhhhhhh
              hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 13: 00
              +2
              Have you seen your icon? On Small Earth did not fight?
              So for what words can Cossacks beat their faces? You did not answer.
              1. akunin
                akunin 17 May 2018 15: 37
                0
                I have one icon, because it is pro-Orthodox, but I know which avatar (I set it myself). In Russia and the USSR there were 3 worthy leaders - Alexander 3, Stalin (with some exceptions) and Brezhnev (in my opinion). If you are a Cossack, don’t go around the bush, say: "I am a Cossack and I am offended," or you wind around like a Markitan boat. I expressed my opinion - I do not consider the current Cossacks to be the heirs of Kornilov. If you have something else to say, rather than get personal.
                http://sibkazak.ru/nastoyashhie-kazaki-yetim-ne-z
                animayutsya / for you
                1. hhhhhhh
                  hhhhhhh 17 May 2018 15: 56
                  +2
                  I am not a Cossack.
                  My opinion is that we should go out. Ordinary people dressed up in jeans and T-shirts, in short, who walks in what. And silently, so that the Soros and Co. would not use our slogans, peacefully, in quantity, shut up supporters who do not know what they want. Among the silent 100 thousand, several hundred heaps would not be noticeable.
                  1. akunin
                    akunin 17 May 2018 19: 01
                    +1
                    here I agree to everything100. the will of the people is one thing, but it is not clear who is the other. Violence is the monopoly of the state, the rest is from the evil one. If you can be calmer, my great-grandfather was a combatant Cossack.
                    1. hhhhhhh
                      hhhhhhh 18 May 2018 08: 19
                      +2
                      I have no disagreements with those for whom Victory Day is May 9, 1945.
  15. brom
    brom 16 May 2018 10: 17
    +2
    Something like this ...
  16. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 10: 18
    +5
    Why are the Cossacks blowing up for us? Why didn’t we go there and silently didn’t stand aside. No need to shout slogans. We may disagree on many polls. Only Bulk clear enemy.
    The silent "March of the Fathers" with a belt in his hands)))
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 16 May 2018 13: 00
      +4
      For starters, can I understand why and why are young people unhappy? Remove Navalny, another will appear ..
      Build a fair state, you see, and youth will be in the right direction
      1. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 15: 27
        +1
        Young people need a future. To know. What will happen tomorrow. No one knows. I personally do not like capitalism, nor Russian, nor even American or Esovsky.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 16 May 2018 20: 06
        +1
        Quote: KERMET
        For starters, can I understand why and why are young people unhappy?

        Because she is young people and she wants adventure.
        1. your1970
          your1970 18 May 2018 09: 51
          0
          in the 60-70s in Paris, students came off (and this was without the participation of Zaluzhi !!) ...
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 18 May 2018 18: 02
            0
            Quote: your1970
            in the 60-70s in Paris, students came off (and this was without the participation of Zaluzhi !!)

            Sure? As a result of the “separation”, de Gaulle was forced to leave, and he does not look like someone who would have succumbed to some kind of jerks, and at the same time he was very cursing with the United States.
            1. your1970
              your1970 19 May 2018 11: 18
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: your1970
              in the 60-70s in Paris, students came off (and this was without the participation of Zaluzhi !!)

              Sure? As a result of the “separation”, de Gaulle was forced to leave, and he does not look like someone who would have succumbed to some kind of jerks, and at the same time he was very cursing with the United States.
              de Gaulle died 09.11.1970.Students began to rally under leftist and anarchist slogans
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 19 May 2018 14: 51
                0
                Quote: your1970
                de Gaulle died 09.11.1970/XNUMX/XNUMX

                The first student unrest began in 1968, when he was the head of France
                1. your1970
                  your1970 19 May 2018 17: 56
                  0
                  Naturally, but the slogans were leftist and anarchist. Too difficult for the United States to fulfill .. you usually come up with something simpler ...
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 19 May 2018 18: 48
                    0
                    Quote: your1970
                    they usually come up with something simpler

                    Well, I think that depends on the scene. It is clear that in the Arab countries they would be different, in the USSR this would not have worked either.
  17. Alex_59
    Alex_59 16 May 2018 10: 19
    +8
    In a country where a fair legal society is established, both the Cossacks and those who rallied would thunder in the bullpen. But this is fantastic. But in reality, I see again some obscurantism. Cossacks with whips .... 21 century in the yard, good morning! Survived. At stake will they start to plant or not? On the rack?
    Here I never feel sympathy for Navalny and the rabble who rallies there. Have you broken something? Riot police and bullpen! But not Cossacks with whips. It seems that this is again some kind of ordering. Whose just is not clear. It can be said for sure that abroad they will now still remember Russia as a country where peaceful protesters are beaten with whips. Bravo! Well, are we really so frail special services that they can’t calculate all these Navalny and Cossacks with their actions? I will not believe even once. Basmachey in the mountains seek out, but not here? I think everyone knows everything, but they staged a performance on purpose. It’s not clear just what. Perhaps the authorities in order to sit evenly need to maintain balance and prevent the strengthening of any alternative group. And it’s so beautiful - they compromised the Cossacks and dispersed the bulk. And formally, power has nothing to do with either one or the other. Cossacks as a symbol of the conservative-monarchist idea are clearly framed. Modern sane people (not liberals!) Will be shocked by this and in the near future will not even think about supporting ideas that are associated with Cossacks.
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 10: 31
      +3
      In a country where a fair legal society is established
      This is where it is? On Mars?
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 16 May 2018 11: 47
        +2
        Quote: hhhhhhh
        This is where it is? On Mars?

        There are no countries on Mars, this planet is not populated by living organisms (but this is not accurate).
      2. sa-ag
        sa-ag 16 May 2018 11: 58
        +3
        Quote: hhhhhhh
        This is where it is?

        There is, for example, South Korea, there (it’s hard to imagine) the president is being brought to justice for corruption :-)
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 16 May 2018 12: 24
          0
          Quote: sa-ag
          There is, for example, South Korea, there (it’s hard to imagine) the president is being brought to justice for corruption :-)

          And in the DPRK, corruption is generally eradicated as a phenomenon)))
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 16 May 2018 13: 09
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            And in the DPRK, corruption is generally eradicated as a phenomenon)))

            Seriously, there can be nowhere such a “just legal society”. Even in these vegetarian Norway with Sweden. So be it. But in theory this should be sought. Why not Russia become the first such country in the world? That would be a breakthrough. You never know what they have there. We have to think how everything is arranged here, and not how it is there. And with us this is all bad, since hooligans like Navalny arrange provocations as a result of which Cossacks appear with whips. Freaks freaking with freaks. This is more like a Maidan of some kind, and not like Norway and Sweden.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 16 May 2018 20: 07
              0
              Quote: Alex_59
              Why not Russia become the first such country in the world?

              Because it is impossible. This is our biology.
          2. Korax71
            Korax71 16 May 2018 16: 02
            -2
            And for doubting the correctness of the policies of the ruling party, they are planting.
        2. hhhhhhh
          hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 15: 31
          +2
          In South Korea, all presidents for corruption are being removed. The removal of the president in Korea does not solve the problem of corruption. Today’s Korean president is also involved in corruption.
      3. KERMET
        KERMET 16 May 2018 13: 32
        +1
        Yes, also Sweden in social justice will be a good example for us
        1. hhhhhhh
          hhhhhhh 16 May 2018 15: 32
          +3
          In Sweden, social justice is only for a migrant. For the Swedes, only taxes and rape.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 16 May 2018 15: 12
      +2
      Well, where is such a "fair" society arranged? Where is this fabulous country? Is it not Geyropa’s hour where girls are raped on holidays? A nation that is not ready to defend itself will not be saved by any "organs", no authorities, no laws printed on paper. I personally bow to the Cossacks, I was not afraid of responsibility, including criminal responsibility. And they didn’t “serve the authorities”, but defend their own, so don’t need la-la about ordering.
    3. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 16 May 2018 15: 39
      +3
      Quote: Alex_59
      But in reality I see again some obscurantism. Cossacks with whips .... 21st century in the yard, good morning! Survived.

      What didn’t suit you in the 21st century? And, let’s say, some kind of juvenile dirty trickster should be “set on the right path”? Before, this was usually done by belts, but this is anachranism, what will we use? In the spirit of the times, a stun gun? laughing
      Quote: Alex_59
      Have you broken something? Riot police and bullpen! But not Cossacks with whips.

      It is quite possible that the “Cossacks with whips” were “in half” to this shobla, until these began to bully. In general, this is more like a banal fight than dispersal of a demonstration.
      1. your1970
        your1970 18 May 2018 09: 59
        +1
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        What didn’t suit you in the 21st century?
        - and what would not suit you crowbar / assembly / reinforcement in the hands of the enemy of the Cossacks - in bulk. Would they split the head of the landowner - like a watermelon and? Would this help to calm the society and social justice?
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 18 May 2018 12: 49
          0
          Quote: your1970
          - and what would not suit you crowbar / assembly / reinforcement in the hands of the enemy of the Cossacks - in bulk.

          Do you yourself understand what you are writing? Come to the rally this kodla with crowbars / instalations / reinforcing bars it would not be a rally, but something else.
          Quote: your1970
          Would this contribute to calm in society and social justice?

          When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are raving
          1. your1970
            your1970 18 May 2018 16: 38
            +2
            Quote: EwgenyZ
            Quote: your1970
            - and what would not suit you crowbar / assembly / reinforcement in the hands of the enemy of the Cossacks - in bulk.

            Do you yourself understand what you are writing? Come to the rally this kodla with crowbars / instalations / reinforcing bars it would not be a rally, but something else.
            Quote: your1970
            Would this contribute to calm in society and social justice?

            When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are raving

            - on fingers: a dagger / Nagayka are permissible in a folk / national costume - here on a person a regular camouflage belonging to which a Nagayka NOT is an.
            If a person with
            Quote: your1970
            crowbar / assembly / reinforcement
            - Well, you don’t want this - with the usual soldier belt of the times of the USSR. And with this belt would he split the head of the Cossack - would it contribute to reconciliation in society or would cause bloodshed ??
            The second -
            Quote: EwgenyZ
            young dirty trickster must be "set on the right path"
            - This is the prerogative of the father or the police, but not the first eagle to come across with a whip.

            I repeat - I do not like that not raked all - both the type of instigators and the Cossacks. So it wasn’t one thing to throw sand and to flog people with the other ..
            1. EwgenyZ
              EwgenyZ 19 May 2018 13: 50
              0
              Quote: your1970
              - on fingers: a dagger / Nagayka are permissible in a folk / national costume - here on a person a regular camouflage belonging to which a Nagayka

              I explain to you on fingers: a Cossack is everywhere with a whip, for that matter, and we are talking about Cossacks, maybe mummers. This is part of their, so to speak, uniforms. And here you dragged crowbars / installers / fittings, is this part of the uniform? Whose uniforms? Do you even understand what you are writing and what is at stake?
              Quote: your1970
              - This is the prerogative of the father or the police, but not the first eagle to come across with a whip.

              It was a joke about a belt and a stun gun, if, suddenly, it didn’t reach you! What the hell did you get here?
              1. your1970
                your1970 19 May 2018 17: 54
                +1
                1) again - the nut is an accessory national and / or national suit. Camouflage does not apply to those ...
                Where is it written that he has the right to walk with a whip?
                and flog her people?
                2) just think, why the Cossacks were so disliked in the Republic of Ingushetia that, on the first go-ahead of the center, they began to destroy them? Not visiting Cossacks destroyed their own, local, neighbors .... And they destroyed it very fiercely ...
                1. EwgenyZ
                  EwgenyZ 21 May 2018 10: 39
                  0
                  Quote: your1970
                  1) again - the nut is an accessory national and / or national suit. Camouflage does not apply to those ...
                  Where is it written that he has the right to walk with a whip?

                  For the dull
                  According to tradition, a nagayka for a Cossack is a symbol of power and dignity, a sign of Esaulets and Bailiffs on the Circle. In general, everyone should have it, from an ordinary Cossack to a general. They wore a cuff on the shoulder strap, with the checker on the waist belt on the right, without a checker, also on the belt, but on the left. In addition, the whip was considered a mandatory military decoration of the Cossack's parade uniform. In battles, as a rule, it was used due to the breakdown of the main weapon. However, the Cossack, who is well versed in the whipping, could not only throw the enemy off the horse, but also inflict a number of serious injuries on him or, for example, knock the blade out of his hands. (http://kazakirossii.ru/index.php?option=com_cont
                  ent & view = article & id = 271: zasapozhnyj-simvo
                  l-vlasti & catid = 15: amunicziya-i-snaryazhenie & a
                  mp; Itemid = 11)

                  Quote: your1970
                  2) just think, why the Cossacks were not so loved in RI

                  Who did not like?
                  Quote: your1970
                  1) that on the first go-ahead of the center, they began to destroy them? It was not the visiting Cossacks who destroyed them — their own, local, neighbors .... And they destroyed it very fiercely ...

                  Soviet power successfully pitted various sectors of society. Wealthy peasants, as well as those who are richer and more successful, were also destroyed. This is not an indicator.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 May 2018 10: 43
    +3
    For example, the famous journalist Maxim Shevchenko defiantly left the Human Rights Council in protest
    Well, he did not come out for this reason, but simply decided to get ahead of the events of his expulsion from the council. The chameleon man did not take root even in such a council, where most liberals and Westerners.
  19. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 16 May 2018 10: 44
    +3
    Cossacks: protect the state or violate civil rights and freedoms?

    The answer is yes. But the author has blunted. These questions are essentially one. For to defend the state, this is to violate freedoms and rights.
    Although you need to flog more and break more. Then there will be more order.
  20. Old26
    Old26 16 May 2018 10: 58
    +5
    Quote: 210ox
    Yes, do not care about the opposition .. Why are so worried about fate fate. They gave the snot and did it right. It does not matter who.

    Important, Dmitry, important. It turns out that if they dispersed "bulk" - it is definitely good. But young people have informal associations, such as "ready" and others. Yes, they look unusual, but it is precisely this unusualness that causes unprovoked aggression from some Cossack groups.
    Okay, today they didn’t like the clothes and hairstyles ready, tomorrow the length of the girls' skirts or excessive “openness”, the day after tomorrow they will start looking at your appearance, are you Russian or “from the Caucasus”?
    Quite rightly said. The law is not finalized. I understand the traditions of wearing Cossack uniforms, but when a young guy of 25 years old sees the epaulettes of a military foreman, this causes exactly this kind of reaction - disguised. Or when on his chest St. George's crosses, sometimes real, family, left over from grandfathers and great-grandfathers, and sometimes remake. And again there is a reaction - "mummers". It’s the same as if I’ll put on my father’s officer uniform for some holiday or on my civilian suit I’ll hang my father’s medals “For Victory over Germany”, “For the capture of Koenigsberg” or the Order of the Patriotic War.

    Although among them there are a lot of worthy people who deserve to have shed blood for the Fatherland, some of these individuals make many think of the Cossacks as really “mummers”. Although I repeat again, you should not measure all with one arshin. For example, my former director. Then he went on promotion, to the regional government, was engaged in the affairs of the Cossacks, then he was invited to the Cossack administration. A couple of times I saw him in uniform of Yesaul, but there at least the position sounds like that. But no "rewards". And still she tries to put on her uniform as little as possible ...
  21. Salomet
    Salomet 16 May 2018 11: 34
    +2
    Somehow the article was written in pieces, and pieces only against the Cossacks. Excuse me and the comments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on this matter? Why do you suddenly have beaten children and write that there is no office work? Why in the comments in the bullpen did everyone decide in the "rule of law"? Cossacks committed a felony? Such things are the level of precinct. In fact, street fight.
    I recall after the rally left the venue, he became a group of people !!! And the fact that 2 groups of people have now fought a reason to drench the Cossacks?
    Let's ban football fans. After each match, they arrange a warm-up for each other. I’ll recover some, but it’s not necessary to ban everyone. Together with football !!! hi
  22. Clueless
    Clueless 16 May 2018 11: 38
    +3
    Gentlemen, about who needs this (well, why did the Cossacks beat, beat and will beat)?
    I have told you more than once and not 2a:
    - Any government is interested in the people having internal and external enemies, but not from among the authorities. External are the USA, Europe, gays. Internal - bulk, liberals, and again gay :)
    - Totalitarian authorities are interested in seeing other states see him as a savage, etc. It doesn’t strangely limit the freedoms of their own citizens, because savages are not needed beyond the hill, and it does not interfere with obtaining useful resources, and they are sold over the hill (they survived, we are selling the forest to the Chinese for 49 years !!! moreover, the meeting was dispersed, news I hope we read it).

    Not yet that will be;) Soon, obviously, white and fluffy will get to me, they will draw an article of some sort, I will turn out to be a feisty pedophile and a drug user :))
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 16 May 2018 12: 02
      0
      Quote: Bad
      External are the USA, Europe, gays. Internal - bulk, liberals, and again gay

      Yes, to be honest, only gays are enemies. Well, really. Because the rest are also gay, but with the letter P.))))
  23. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 12: 42
    +6
    Guys, let's call a spade a spade. Abstracting from the rally of the liberal public and those who gathered there, along with instigators, skirmishers and provocateurs. The so-called "Cossacks" no one gave the right to violence. If they themselves took the right to violence, then they are fascists, albeit Cossacks. By the way, Cossacks served in the Wehrmacht, and for some reason no one remembered this about me, without detracting from the exploits of the Red Cossacks, of course. The police and the Russian Guard were to deal with the rally, that is, to promote public law and order. And if such actions take place, then we are present at the fascization of our society.
    “Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialistic elements of financial capital ... Fascism is not the supra-class power and the power of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen proletariat over financial capital. Fascism is the power of financial capital itself. It is an organization. "of terrorist reprisals against the working class and the revolutionary part of the peasantry and intelligentsia. Fascism in foreign policy is chauvinism in its most rude form, cultivating zoological hatred of other nations." George Dimitrov is a Bulgarian communist.
    1. Old warrior
      Old warrior 16 May 2018 13: 08
      +2
      In! An excellent term is lumpen cossacks. lol
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 16 May 2018 15: 07
      +2
      During the collapse of the USSR, they also waited for "the police will figure it out," "the committee will figure it out." Wait, ruff your copper.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 26
        +1
        but now ROSGUARD is there! And policemen per capita more than in the USSR.
    3. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 16 May 2018 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      The so-called "Cossacks" no one gave the right to violence.

      The article talks about provocation, and in this regard, "dispersal" was a simple brawl of two groups of people.
      And if there was a rally of "Labor Russia" or some kind of "Avant-garde of the Red Youth" in place of the Cossacks, and not whips, but posters with photographs of Lenin and Stalin, would be used, would you put this nonsense about fascism by Dimitrov? Most likely they would have “crumbled” in praise, and would have found something approving in the works of the “classics” of Marxism.
      1. your1970
        your1970 18 May 2018 10: 08
        +1
        the only thing to me not I liked it - that the riot police did not rake everyone together: they didn’t dump the Cossacks either; ALL (!!!) participants in a mass brawl under the Code of Administrative Offenses and the Criminal Code ...
  24. Old warrior
    Old warrior 16 May 2018 13: 05
    +2
    Well, why are you surprised? Why did they "revive"? Nothing has changed since imperial times. Although everything was right on May 5th, only something tells me that they would have managed without these mummers.
  25. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 13: 21
    +5
    Quote: Old Warrior
    In! An excellent term is lumpen cossacks.

    ------------------------------
    If all sorts of "fighters Ram", "Right Sector", "Black Hundred", skinheads and others take the right to violence, then this is pure fascism. But the oligarchic bourgeoisie is profitable. Of course, there is no mass and hard fascism as in the 1930s, and it’s not necessary, it’s troublesome and not too beautiful, but in a soft form it will manifest itself with might and main.
  26. V. Demon
    V. Demon 16 May 2018 13: 24
    +10
    I am a military professional. I will not use my knowledge and ability against my people when and under any circumstances. There is no excuse for people without lawfully beating their fellow citizens. Especially "dressed up" Cossacks. This article is primarily intended to protect the illegal actions of these "mummers." People at the rally did not violate the requirements of the Constitution of the Russian Federation !!!!
    1. cost
      cost 29 May 2018 00: 59
      +1
      I am a military professional. I will not use my knowledge and ability against my people when and under any circumstances.

      It depends on who you consider your people
  27. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 13: 42
    +1
    Quote: Old Warrior
    In! An excellent term is lumpen cossacks.

    ----------------------
    I would slightly transform your term as "Cossack lumpen."
  28. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 14: 34
    +4
    Quote: V.Demon
    I am a military professional. I will not use my knowledge and ability against my people when and under any circumstances. There is no excuse for people without lawfully beating their fellow citizens. Especially "dressed up" Cossacks. This article is primarily intended to protect the illegal actions of these "mummers." People at the rally did not violate the requirements of the Constitution of the Russian Federation !!!!

    -----------------------------
    When the real opposition is not listened to and frankly ignored, especially by the new-old appointments of the new-old prime minister and his new-old Government with castling, it will be so. Any opposition movement will spill over into such ugly forms. The left fascists of Navalny are now confronted with the right fascists of the “Cossacks”.
  29. Traktorbekov Urulu
    Traktorbekov Urulu 16 May 2018 14: 47
    +6
    What I want to say. During the construction of the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, he witnessed a situation where three or four Armenians (and there are a lot of them in Sochi) infringed on a man of a completely Russian appearance. To someone there he drove a stroller from a hypermarket there, or pushed it by accident ... Naturally, noise, screams ... A Cossack outfit ten meters diligently pretended to be "truncated in order", there was no reason for interference. Ironically, the case happened exactly under the banner, where the Kuban Cossack Choir was depicted in all its glory. And how, I feel ashamed to ask, should I relate to them after that?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 16 May 2018 21: 27
      +1
      what are we talking about!
  30. andrew42
    andrew42 16 May 2018 14: 51
    +3
    Any knife has 2 extremes - you can cut bread, you can take a life. The Cossacks, as one of the instruments of self-defense of the Russian (and not Russian) world, as well as the main state-forming nation, it is arch-needed and archived. Another issue is that the current government, with its 282 art. The Criminal Code and law enforcement thereof, no Cossack organizations with real capabilities are needed. And the mummers are more profitable than anyone else, and they let off patriotic steam, and stop national identity. Beauty! And in particular, I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that there were Cossacks who marked those who consciously or not walked in the stream of destroyers of the Russian State. A low bow to them for this, that they were not afraid of responsibility. No one killed, robbed. Shulers need to be beaten in place, not a sheriff. It is better to let the Cossacks whisk away the “general people” now, than then these “reformers” who have seized power will condemn hundreds of thousands of my people, my children and grandchildren to extinction. And as for the "dispersal of grandmothers," no matter how fidgety, no matter how you cut out the form, the content and the "quality of these guys" will always decide whether or not to suppress popular protests. I return to the beginning, to the image of the knife, the bread granter, and the executing knife.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 16 May 2018 19: 52
      +3
      Quote: andrew42
      And in particular, I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that there were Cossacks who marked those who consciously or not walked in the stream of destroyers of the Russian State.

      Is it possible to conspire
      Cossacks here?
      Your Excellency, General Kornilov
      With Don
      with a little ribbon
      Kindly sniff!
      V.V. Mayakovsky
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 16 May 2018 20: 15
        +2
        Well, what is Mayakovsky doing here? Also a great humanist? Who is walking right .. And yes, he, Mayakovsky, was "authorized", for the time being ... He ended badly, really. And then say, in fact, quotes from the singer of the revolution, it is clear that the “Cossacks” are used, and not the Cossacks themselves indulge. Whips? Is it better to checkers? Or like red Latvians with the Chinese?
  31. Uralean
    Uralean 16 May 2018 15: 29
    +4
    Article - Crap !! Engaged, and based on the needs of today .. here the Cossacks are disassembled, their actions themselves are NOT COSSACKS, but they do NOT know anything about the Cossack life of both the past and the present .. And from here any belebird wrapped in an ideological wrapper. This is not the case with K. Rodovy Cossacks; they reject everything. what is said here .. The main thing is to whom the article is addressed to an ordinary reader of different nationalities (but not Cossacks), in order to obscure the role of the Cossacks both in the creation and formation of the Russian and Russian states. So it is for the modern Cossacks .. the desire at all costs to bring down interest in modern Cossacks, as defenders of our Motherland and slandered to paint them like bandyugs, drunkards, worthless people, who have nothing to do and they went to sign up for Cossacks to play around .. That's what they want imagine Cossacks such scribblers .. Cossacks (tribal) do not care about your views on us .. They are only yours .. We (our ancestors at all times of the existence of the Cossacks people) lived in the worst periods of their persecution and destruction of the Cossacks, and now we will not live looking at your liberalistic cries, and moaning ..))
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 16 May 2018 20: 19
      +1
      The article is still nothing, it just raises dull. But the comments about the "authorization" and the mixing of the mummers with those who really carry traditions - this is scary. Woe from the mind, in a word. Now the mummers will be discussed, and under this business the rest of the Cossacks will be deceived, with the whole thousand-year history. It’s easier to cut off the left hand than to leave Russian traditions without the Cossacks. Ahn, unbeknownst to the intellectuals. Give them sanction, you see, a monopoly on violence ...
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 16 May 2018 22: 02
        +3
        Quote: andrew42
        Give them sanction, you see, a monopoly on violence ...

        Well then, go for Ukraine. Each region has its own “Cossacks”. Now Zaporizhzhya are fighting with Donetsk. Like? If the state does not have a monopoly on violence, then such a state will not live long. There is no vacuum of power.
    2. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 17 May 2018 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: Ural
      paint them like a bandyug, drunkards, worthless people who have nothing to do and they went to enroll in Cossacks to play

      So mummers are loafers and alcohol.
      Quote: Ural
      lived in the worst periods of their own persecution and destruction of the Cossacks, and now we will live in spite of your liberalistic cries, and moaning ..))

      If you did not forget how the Soviet government reduced the number of mummers, then why again behave so greyhound and talk?
  32. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 15: 33
    +1
    Quote: Traktorbekov Urulyu
    What I want to say. During the construction of the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, he witnessed a situation where three or four Armenians (and there are a lot of them in Sochi) infringed on a man of a completely Russian appearance. To someone there he drove a stroller from a hypermarket there, or pushed it by accident ... Naturally, noise, screams ... A Cossack outfit ten meters diligently pretended to be "truncated in order", there was no reason for interference.

    -----------------------------------------
    Lashing down on an unauthorized procession that law enforcement agencies must deal with and simply protecting a citizen from excessively annoying citizens without assault is probably all different things. Unauthorized rallies could well be detained for violating public order. And to prevent the arrival of a group of young men in the spirit of a “three on one” group or along with the Cossacks, it was quite possible without any tolerance.
  33. Captain45
    Captain45 16 May 2018 17: 21
    +4
    I read the comments and remembered from Vysotsky: “But then what a passion of passion ooh-ho what ..” Here I read the comments and am surprised at you. When this action under discussion happened, eh? Already 5 on May, and today we are discussing 16. 11 days there was silence and no one was interested in this dispersal in the spirit of 1905 of the year. And why, I ask you, those present in the hall? And because the article was not posted. But they posted an article and a reason to scratch their tongues appeared. And why, because all have long been living in virtual space, and not in reality. There was an informational occasion and an indignant mind began to boil, the lid of the boiler with feces boomed. Is it usual to hear such a thing about yourself? But there would not be this article to do, huh? Probably Medvedev would be discussed again. Ehehe, revolutionaries, directly sucked democrats. And they are also going to rebuild Russia. They gave eccentrics the opportunity to let off steam, earlier in the kitchens whispering under port 777 or Kavkaz, they scolded the Soviet government, now they have moved to the Internet, and the government has stood still. And neither bulk nor bloggers-heroes of the Internet can even move it. Although in order to create the appearance of stirring in a week, they will still throw some other topic and boil, the Internet pot will boil.
  34. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 May 2018 17: 21
    +3
    If the members of a certain hypothetical society, "Pasta Lovers" begin to blow the skimmers with passers-by, is it going to be a big difference from the fact that the Cossacks indulge in a riotous folk? Macaronnikov must be tied at once. winked I think all this Cossack fuss is not legal. Although, when the bullets are bulk it is nice. But where is the guarantee that they will only be limited to them and will not take on everyone, having come to taste? laughing
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 16 May 2018 20: 24
      +1
      But there is no guarantee. Honestly, she, Madame Warranties, is not at all. And in the Swiss bank either.
  35. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 17: 42
    +2
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    And if there was a rally of "Labor Russia" or some kind of "Avant-garde of the Red Youth" in place of the Cossacks, and not whips, but posters with photographs of Lenin and Stalin, would be used, would you put this nonsense about fascism by Dimitrov? Most likely they would have “crumbled” in praise, and would have found something approving in the works of the “classics” of Marxism.

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    “Labor Russia” has long ceased to exist, you were apparently stuck in the 1990s, so your Black-Hundred attack is about nothing. And in general, a revolutionary situation must mature if you know anything about Marxism. Lenin took power peacefully, the tsar was overthrown by the liberals. Both the current Communist Party and other Marxists assume the seizure of power in a different way than terror or violence. Or is your historical knowledge absent as such and only class hatred present? However, to justify modern fascism, all means are good.
    PS There was no "brawl between two persons", no need to lie, there are photos of this action. There is a "group of persons" in camouflage, as they say. And do not justify arbitrariness pseudo-patriotism.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 17 May 2018 12: 54
      0
      Quote: Altona
      “Labor Russia” has long ceased to exist, you were apparently stuck in the 1990s, so your Black-Hundred attack is about nothing.

      You are there for them, on the site - http://trudros.ru, write that they are not there, let's see who then they will write in the Black Hundreds wassat
      Quote: Altona
      And in general, a revolutionary situation must mature if you know anything about Marxism. Lenin took power peacefully, the tsar was overthrown by the liberals.

      Why did you write me this? What does Lenin have to do with taking power and a fight between Cossacks and liberals?
      Quote: Altona
      PS There was no "brawl between two persons", no need to lie, there are photos of this action. There is a "group of persons" in camouflage, as they say. And do not justify arbitrariness pseudo-patriotism.

      And if they were in the form of conductors, would you accuse Russian Railways of arbitrariness and pseudo-patriotism?
  36. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 17: 45
    +2
    Quote: Captive
    I think all this Cossack fuss is not legal. Although, when the bullets are bulk it is nice. But where is the guarantee that they will only be limited to them and will not take on everyone, having come to taste?

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    In principle, you quote the well-known thesis about fascism - "when they came for the Jews, I was silent, when they came for the Communists, I was silent, when they came for the priests, I was silent, today they came for me." There is hardly anything funny. Well, it’s extremely unreasonable to beat up the idiots waiting for bonuses for their “rallies”, and even more so the Cossacks get involved in this matter.
  37. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 17: 46
    0
    Quote: Captain45
    Already on May 5, and we are discussing today on the 16th. 11 days there was silence and no one was interested in this dispersal in the spirit of 1905.

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    I casually mentioned this event in early comments.
  38. Altona
    Altona 16 May 2018 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: Ural
    Engaged, and based on the needs of today .. here the Cossacks are being disassembled, their actions themselves are NOT COSSACKS, but they do NOT know anything about the Cossack life of both the past and the present ..

    ----------------------------------
    This is not about the Cossacks, but about people who have arrogated to themselves the right to violence and impose arbitrariness.
  39. fa2998
    fa2998 16 May 2018 18: 44
    +4
    Quote: 210ox
    Not "mummers" but people in the service of the state.

    The state was not in their service for service! Whoever wants to - let him go to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Cossacks have the same rights as the rest of the citizens of Russia. Moreover, I write from the Cossack region, and many of my ancestors were Cossacks. The quality is the economic system and service to the state. And then, all sorts of benefits and autonomous rule on the lands of the Cossacks. EVERYTHING is DESTROYED, instead of living on the outskirts, the Cossacks live in the center of the country. They take on a lot too. Owners of the legs need to be kept in the monkey for a night and a fine will be written!
  40. Freeman
    Freeman 16 May 2018 19: 29
    +2
    More related news
    The Tverskoy District Court of Moscow on May 15 fined 1 thousand rubles. for disrespect for society and obscene abuse of Yevgeny Fedorchenko, who beat the Cossacks with the rally participants in Moscow on May 5. He stated in court that he is a Cossack and is a member of the Cossack organization.
    RBC 15:57

    He will have to pay a thousand rubles only for foul language. Not for a fight, not for using a whip, but for a mat.
    And more
    The people in Cossack uniforms who beat the protesters with whispers on Pushkin Square were flogged with whips by other Cossacks. As Business FM told Cossack blogger Vasily Yashchikov, at a special gathering, Cossacks conducted an internal investigation and punished those who reacted too provocatively to provocations.
    BFM.ru
    05:51
    Vasily Yashchikov
    blogger
    “Yes, we had a meeting. They gathered, drew conclusions, figured out how it could happen that they brought it to that. It is clear that there were provocateurs. Nevertheless, we punished those who rebuffed with whips. Punished according to their own, Cossack customs and traditions. Flogged. Nagayka and got to know the next time. "

    Threat. Traditions are traditions, but there is also a constitution.
    Article 21 paragraph 2
    No one shall be subjected to torture, violence, other cruel or degrading treatment or punishment.

    By the way, on the basis of this, in accordance with Federal Law 154-ФЗ “On the Civil Service of the Russian Cossacks”, the public organization “Central Cossack Army” can be dissolved.
    But who will do this?
  41. Tomato
    Tomato 16 May 2018 20: 03
    +4
    As lawyers like to say: the law is like pregnancy, or is it or not.
    These clowns do not have the slightest legal basis to attack, beat anyone.
    But what if all public organizations take on such functions.
    Sadly different. Power went along the Latin American path. There, too, there was experience of using paramilitares to fight political opponents. Bad experience.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 16 May 2018 21: 35
      +1
      Quote: Tomatoes
      These clowns do not have the slightest legal basis to attack, beat anyone

      In fact, the article explicitly states that they did not attack
      For example, eyewitnesses to the ill-fated rally on May 5 claim that aggressively-minded young people from among the protesters, having seen the Cossacks present in the square, began to lift them up themselves, chanting “The mummers! Mummers! ” Among the Cossacks there are people with the experience of military operations who have passed through the "hot spots", participants in the wars in Transnistria and Chechnya, Yugoslavia and the Donbass. Naturally, they could not like such abusive behavior of the protesters. Moreover, it seems that the protesters counted on the negative reaction of the Cossacks. One of the eyewitnesses of those events generally claims that the fight began after one of the Cossacks was thrown sand in the face, to which his comrades reacted.
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 17 May 2018 09: 29
      +2
      Quote: Tomatoes
      As lawyers like to say: the law is like pregnancy, or is it or not.
      These clowns do not have the slightest legal basis to attack, beat anyone.
      But what if all public organizations take on such functions.

      And it all started with a seemingly harmless movement against smoking in unidentified places and the Stop Ham movement, when instead of immediately sharply and rudely yanking presumptuous activists, they flirted and lisped with them, so they say, a public initiative, here is a civil society. You can recall all sorts of tsarebozhnikov under the leadership of a mad prosecutor-deputy. So there is nothing surprising in the fact that the Cossacks waved their whips, but at least they didn’t start shooting. I will not be surprised at the pace of development of civil society in this direction if we reach the Maidan. First, they will provoke clashes between those navalnitsy and Cossacks, then the Russian Guard will intervene to disperse and calm them down and went to write the province .... Well, if we get off with the next sanctions, but if not ... They don’t sit there and don’t eat bread for nothing .
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 17 May 2018 15: 28
        0
        + and there is nothing to add.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 19 May 2018 21: 19
      +1
      What power - such and the way, the curves.
  42. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 16 May 2018 20: 09
    +1
    It’s better not to mess with Cossacks!
  43. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 16 May 2018 20: 25
    +2
    Great day! He was a registered Cossack, more than 20 years old, was part of the "polite", because of disagreement with the policy of "non-interference" with respect to the Donbass carried out by the ataman of the East Kazakhstan Region "VVD" Goncharov, along with thousands of other Cossacks, came under the jurisdiction of the Union of Cossacks of the Warriors of Russia and Abroad General Vodolatsky V.P. I always thought and will believe that the Cossacks were, are and will be the defenders of Russia, our Fatherland! We stand for a strong, independent Mother Russia in all respects! As for the dispersal of all kinds of liberals, I think such actions are right! It will be necessary and will again drive the pro-Westerners and other shit, respect the GDP and support its foreign policy. Honestly, I was surprised at the appearance of a new, old prime minister, without authority. I hope that there are a lot of people like me, and we will do our utmost to help the GDP build a new, strong, self-sufficient country that will be for all Russians a beloved mother, and not a stepmother, as I often see now. God grant all that is said will come true!
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 16 May 2018 21: 44
      +3
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      Great day! Consisted in the registered Cossacks , more than 20 years old, was composed of “polite”, due to disagreement with the policy of "non-interference" regarding Donbass conducted by the ataman of East Kazakhstan Oblast Goncharov, along with thousands of other Cossacks came under the jurisdiction of the Union of Cossacks Warriors of Russia and Abroad General V.P. Vodolatsky I always thought and will believe that the Cossacks were, are and will be the defenders of Russia, our Fatherland! We stand for a strong, independent Mother Russia in all respects! As for the dispersal of all kinds of liberals, I think such actions are right! It will be necessary and from a new time we will drive pro-Westerners and other shit, I respect GDP and support his foreign policy. Honestly, I was surprised at the appearance of a new, old prime minister, without authority. I hope that there are many like me and We we will help GDP in every possible way to build a new, strong, self-sufficient country , which will be for all Russians a beloved mother, not a stepmother, as I often see now. God grant all that is said will come true!

      Yeah. Faith in the "good king" among our people is indestructible.
      And the famous saying, in Cossack fashion, apparently sounds like this
      - The king is good, these are atamans are bad.
      Threat. You live great! hi
  44. Uralean
    Uralean 16 May 2018 21: 14
    +3
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: Ural
    Engaged, and based on the needs of today .. here the Cossacks are being disassembled, their actions themselves are NOT COSSACKS, but they do NOT know anything about the Cossack life of both the past and the present ..

    ----------------------------------
    This is not about the Cossacks, but about people who have arrogated to themselves the right to violence and impose arbitrariness.

    It seems so to you .. Read the article carefully, and the comments, and you will see that at first they started talking about some people dressed in Cossack uniforms (right). that they beat liberals with whips, and then went on a lump of lies and propaganda, to gain momentum, and so it goes, they’re registered, or they began to speak disguised, and then generally the Cossacks shit and they all need to be brought to the nail .. Well, just like when the Cossacks dispossessed s1922- year to the 28th year. Then from the 34th year to the 38th year .. Cut out, shot exiled Cossacks to the root with the children and the elderly. out of the seven millionth Cossack people, several hundred thousand remained .., And that one was forbidden to be called Cossacks, and they wrote down all who were Russians, some Ukrainians, some Belarusians .. Spending terrible agitation about the Cossacks, ghouls, persecutors of the people .. Now seeing the revival of the remnants Cossack people, the identity of the Cossacks, to see someone was given a command to begin so far in all the media and the Internet to begin persecution of the Cossacks., distortions of their real image, and development goals together with Russia, began to frighten some sort of independent Cossacks who supposedly want a separate separation from Russia .. Nonsense is utter, but passes among PEOPLE. Looks like they again want to finish off the Cossack people, who survived the decades of communist hard times ..)))
    1. your1970
      your1970 18 May 2018 10: 20
      0
      ask yourself, “WHAT did the Cossacks get for? And for the fact that they TRIED the tsar for a start, took the side of Germany to the Civil (yes, Krasnov corresponded with the Kaiser), etc. etc.
  45. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 16 May 2018 22: 19
    +2
    The mummers let thumps in the taverns, I served on the border, Cossacks sent their “raiders” to us for “help”, for re-education, if you see him at the outpost, he pulls firewood for a bathhouse, feeds pigs on a subheading ... There were those who show-off tried to beat - fluff from such quickly knocked down. For all the time I’ve seen a few normal guys, mostly kosyachnikiki alone
  46. nikoliski
    nikoliski 17 May 2018 00: 09
    +1
    From the point of view of the Criminal Code, these are illegal armed groups that freely carry cold steel on the street for some reason, by the way, in our city of impudent kachazia it has diminished since 2014 (obviously we went to fight in the Donbass)
  47. parma
    parma 17 May 2018 14: 27
    +1
    I, too, am not a supporter of the Cossacks in the form in which it is now ...
    For if it’s a public organization, they don’t have rights to beat, otherwise they must be detained together with the rest of the participants of the fight until clarification) ... They don’t even have the right to beat the rights of a combatant, the usual rules of self-defense apply ... If it’s still part of the power structures , then the conversation is different - according to law enforcement officials still do not have the right to beat people for political reasons ...
    And now it turns out - the Cossacks beat and disperse (and it doesn’t matter how good or good heaped up) with the connivance of the police .. And why are we better than the neighbors with their lawyers? it all started there too ..
  48. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 14: 40
    +1
    the question of the Cossacks rests on the slackness of our government, and the weakness of legislation. For the Cossacks to function normally, a real thing is needed. The tasks of the Cossacks 100% overlap with the tasks of the Chop and dnd, you need to make a single law on the protection of activities, and write down all the Chopov and warriors as Cossacks. Then a single powerful network structure will appear, where each chop is independent legally and financially, but it is controlled by the Russian Guard, mobilized under clearly defined conditions, helps the state in case of natural disasters, terrorist attacks, and emergency situations. It is necessary to allow the Cossacks to carry a short-shot lead gun, in any case, in rural and forest areas, making amendments to the law on weapons and providing for the procedure for allowing registration, use of storage, etc.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 19 May 2018 21: 14
      +1
      Our, in quotation marks, power is not at all slack. This is a tightly organized criminal group that uses all legal and illegal means to keep itself in power. Cossacks are beneficial to them, as an instrument of suppression, supposedly from the people. Although, I think that not all Cossacks are ready for this.
  49. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 18 May 2018 10: 53
    +4
    Only two questions:
    1. Where were all these “mummers” in Kushchevka, why didn’t they whip with the whips of the local bandits, the very ones from Tsapki?
    2. Does this mean that from now on, any public organization, despite, so to speak, the Constitution of the Russian Federation and its laws, can be whipped with whips, shafts, a picket fence, and then with daggers and sabers can curse all those who disagree with curves?
    1. Meshcheryak
      Meshcheryak 18 May 2018 12: 13
      +3
      I answer, Dear Sashko:
      1. I won’t tell you for the Kushchevskaya village, I haven’t been there, and in other places we’ll come well.
      2. The lads on the cannon were not on behalf of public organizations, but on their own initiative and did the right thing, it is a pity that we did not know about this movement, it was possible to make a good rustle) Thank you lads!
  50. 1536
    1536 18 May 2018 11: 27
    +2
    It is necessary to officially revive the Cossack troops at the legislative level, and to attract them to protect public order and suppress illegal actions in Russian cities. Enough of condoning those who take hostages in cities by carrying out their unauthorized actions. Their actions border on the actions of terrorists, because they are dangerous for the mass of people. Instead of organized protests (there are really many reasons for this), people are involved in confrontation with the police, in futile walks in the streets or fights. Such actions of the so-called “opposition” are really beneficial to the authorities, because distract people, but lead to chaos. Cossacks will be a deterrent.