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"Topol" will be out of work

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According to the plans of the military, in 2018-2019, only three launches of the RS-12М Topol intercontinental ballistic missiles (topol 7 launches in previous years) will take place, according to News.


"Topol" will be out of work


It is reported that in recent years a significant number of launches have been associated with the program to create new controlled units for this ICBM. But as a result, the competing Avangard system on the basis of the Sarmat carrier won in the competition of projects.

As the military department explained, in the coming years only single launches will be performed, the task of which is “training the personnel of the Strategic Missile Forces and confirming the stability of the characteristics of missiles with an extended service life”.

The reduction of the Topol launches is likely due to the decision to stop further work on the creation of new guided warheads. The reasons are clear. They are associated with the start of mass production of invulnerable for missile defense hypersonic military units "Avangard". About this 1 March, Russian President Vladimir Putin told in a message to the Federal Assembly. Avangard is a competing system for blocks that were developed for Topol,
Dmitry Kornev, editor of the MilitaryRussia Internet project, told the newspaper.

According to the newspaper, "the Avangard system warheads are capable of flying in dense layers of the atmosphere in more than 20 times faster than the speed of sound." It is assumed that the carrier for the hypersonic units will be the newest ICBM RS-28 "Sarmat".
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 15 May 2018 12: 11
    +4
    Since 11 years, the Poplar has not been purchasing the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I think it’s time to develop a program similar to the Dnepr program for Topol, for the Voivode.
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 15 May 2018 12: 23
      +25
      Some nonsense is written in a news article. It seems that the author has no idea what he is broadcasting about. fool How can one compare an anti-tank gun and a howitzer ?! These are rockets of completely different classes and each rocket has its own niche and tasks.. "Poplar" is a 45-ton, solid-fuel ICBM mainly mobile-based. Sarmat - 200-ton (the exact mass of the missile is still controversial), liquid-fuel (heptyl) silo-based ICBMs. request
      For some reason, in the USSR, a 200-ton Voevoda, got along well with a 100-ton Stiletto and, accordingly, with Topol. And then, the sparrow suddenly became a competitor to the ostrich? belay
      1. Topotun
        Topotun 15 May 2018 13: 20
        +4
        Rather, they decided to save the carriers, you never know what. There is a warhead for Topol, let them lie in the nest egg. Why scatter with a resource?
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 15 May 2018 13: 35
          +6
          Quote: Topotun
          Rather, they decided to save the carriers, you never know what. There is a warhead for Topol, let them lie in the nest egg. Why scatter with a resource?

          Everything is simple here. They decided to curtail the program of creating new managed blocks for Topol, as unpromising. And vice versa, they decided to concentrate on “Vanguard” for “Sarmat”. Accordingly, the number of Topol launches was reduced. And it’s reasonable, why throw money (a rocket) down the drain if you know that it functions perfectly with the old block and will serve as a guard of our state for a long time to come. hi
          1. misti1973
            misti1973 15 May 2018 21: 35
            0
            It would be better if they were not in a hurry, but the Yarses were put in all parts.
      2. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 15 May 2018 20: 11
        +1
        Not only is the article nonsense, the author also confused the RT-2PM “Topol” (under the START-RS-12M agreement), which was produced from 1984 to 1994. and is gradually withdrawn from service and the RT-2PM2 Topol-M (under the START treaty - RS-12M2). The main thing that the word "Poplar" remembered.
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 15 May 2018 15: 07
      +1
      I think it’s time to develop a program similar to the Dnepr program for Topol, for the Voivode.

      What's the point? These missile systems have completely different throwing weights. The "Poplar" only 1200 kg. And this is for falling to the ground. And in order to leave the satellite in orbit, the weight will drop to 200-300 kg. It is not worth it. Mini and nano satellites. So they are already bombarded with passing weight during launches of larger launch vehicles.
      The "Voivode" weight of the abandoned part is up to 5825 kg. The satellite weighs a couple of tons. This is for comparison.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 15 May 2018 16: 09
        0
        Quote: Berkut24
        These missile systems have completely different throwing weights. At "Poplar" only 1200 kg

        And after removing some combat systems from Poplar, which for a peaceful launch is useless, what will be the weight to be thrown?
        1. Berkut24
          Berkut24 15 May 2018 18: 50
          0
          There is nothing there that could be removed. Only change the flight task to the starting one. It may even be necessary to add a booster block to fix the satellite in the desired orbit. Then there will be nothing to run at all by weight.
          The Voivode has a warhead breeding unit, and there it can be changed to a booster block without any special losses in the payload.
    3. KCA
      KCA 15 May 2018 16: 03
      0
      Already “Topol-M” has been discontinued, I don’t remember the date, haven’t they been bought by Poplar since 2011?
    4. Reader 2013
      Reader 2013 15 May 2018 21: 31
      +1
      Not tired, the first in every article, something blurt out, it’s ridiculous already, almost like a mihan, it's me a nexus
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 15 May 2018 21: 41
        0
        Quote: 2013 Reader
        Not tired, the first in every article, something blurt out, it’s ridiculous already, almost like a mihan, it's me a nexus

        Dear, you blurt out, I write what I consider necessary. I repeat to the second in the tank’s carriage, I don’t look, the first I, the second or tenth wrote a post. It’s you who are confused on the likes and on the ranks ... I don’t care. So moderate your stupidity to a gurgle and do not hit your heel in the chest.
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  3. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 May 2018 12: 20
    0
    Well, in general, it’s logical if “Vanguard” is satisfied with the performance characteristics,
    Yes, and you can upgrade it.
    Interestingly, “Barguzin” will resume?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 15 May 2018 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      Interestingly, “Barguzin” will resume?

      What interests me more is the question at what stage is the ICBM Rubezh (Vanguard) project, which was promised to be put on duty as early as 16.
      1. vkl.47
        vkl.47 15 May 2018 12: 46
        +2
        At the final stage of development
      2. Cha ban
        Cha ban 16 May 2018 05: 59
        0
        Officially stated that the work has been discontinued, again in favor of the Vanguard. And what is really there - who will tell us the truth in such a non-public question?
  4. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 15 May 2018 12: 23
    +4
    Nothing, all the rules, as needed, there will be so many launches, otherwise the usual news has been turned into harassment.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 May 2018 12: 30
    +2
    associated with the start of serial production of the Vanguard hypersonic warheads invulnerable to missile defense
    The tests are over, the need for launches is reduced. There are no problems and this is the main thing.
  6. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 15 May 2018 12: 33
    +2
    The main thing is standing on the database? And glorious!
    1. impostor
      impostor 16 May 2018 18: 56
      0
      Right! On Vlasikha know better. And warranty periods are extended.
  7. gurzuf
    gurzuf 15 May 2018 12: 43
    +2
    Works for the Topol - not an edge! If not in the RF Armed Forces, then on lease, well, say in Iran or the DPRK laughing
    1. A good one
      A good one 15 May 2018 13: 07
      +5
      Americans immediately sit back in a puddle. smile
    2. raw174
      raw174 15 May 2018 13: 47
      0
      Quote: gurzuf
      or DPRK

      They curtail their program, did the Yankees find an approach ...
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 15 May 2018 15: 01
        +2
        Quote: raw174
        They curtail their program,

        Where to turn? request The program is completed, strategic nuclear forces have been created.
        Quote: raw174
        did the Yankees find an approach ...
        Well, in principle, they (mattresses) think so ... We will not dissuade them. laughing
        1. raw174
          raw174 15 May 2018 15: 03
          +1
          Quote: Paranoid50
          The program is completed, strategic nuclear forces have been created.

          The polygon is being dismantled, the Yankees are talking about the denuclearization of the peninsula and they will squeeze this topic, I have no doubt.
  8. misti1973
    misti1973 15 May 2018 21: 32
    +1
    As for these Vanguards: no bodies can move 20 mach in dense layers of the atmosphere. They simply burn! Even ballistic missile warheads slow down to supersonic speeds. These are the "experts" in our government.
  9. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 15 May 2018 21: 51
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    I write what I think is necessary

    Write, write, do not be discouraged, what you consider necessary is bad, is at the level of grade 5
  10. Old26
    Old26 16 May 2018 00: 35
    0
    Quote: KCA
    Already “Topol-M” has been discontinued, I don’t remember the date, haven’t they been bought by Poplar since 2011?

    Of course, "Topol-M". "The last" Topol "was put on the database back in 1994. EMNIP. The launches that are conducted on the" Topol "have nothing to do with the new controlled units. This is either a combat training as part of the exercises, or launches under the PSE program (extension of the operating life ). No one in their right mind will throw billions to create such blocks for a rocket that is being withdrawn from service

    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Berkut24
    These missile systems have completely different throwing weights. At "Poplar" only 1200 kg

    And after removing some combat systems from Poplar, which for a peaceful launch is useless, what will be the weight to be thrown?

    In fact, the “Poplar” cast weight is 1 ton (1,2 tons - “Poplar-M”). When using combat missiles as carriers, the payload put into orbit is about 1,5-2 times less than in the combat version. If the R-36M2 missiles are thrown at 8,8 tons, then the combat equipment itself is about 5 tons. Dnepr has this indicator (launch into orbit) of the EMNIP of the order of 3,5 tons with an air pollutant equal to almost 8

    Quote: misti1973
    As for these Vanguards: no bodies can move 20 mach in dense layers of the atmosphere. They simply burn! Even ballistic missile warheads slow down to supersonic speeds. These are the "experts" in our government.

    Well, why are you lowering the hat-takers so much. The president himself told them on TV that the “Vanguard” flies at a speed of 20M in dense layers, and the “Dagger” at a speed of 10M. And you give them physics ...