Roy "Gremlins". American aircraft-controlled UAV program

The American Corporation "Sierra Nevada" (Sierra Nevada Corporation - SNC) issued a press release, which refers to the work on the creation dronescapable of performing combat missions as part of a "swarm". It is reported that one of the tasks being solved at the moment is the management of the "swarm" drones from the aircraft, which will be outside the zone of detection and destruction by the enemy. So far, drones have been created that can hardly be called miniature.

According to the latest data, drones can be fired over a specific terrain using the C-130 Hercules transport aircraft. After completing the mission, the drones will have to assemble at the appointed place and prepare for the new mission within 24 hours. Drones are rated for 20 uses.

It is stated that at the moment the company Dynetics is developing a device to “capture” UAVs. This device should provide docking and undocking of the UAV from (from) the C-130 during the flight.

This entire program in the US is called Gremlins and is intended for various military needs. In particular, we are talking about misleading the enemy's air defense and anti-missile defense systems, which should react to the “swarm” of drones as the “main target”. At the same time, drones can provide direct electronic and physical protection of transport workers and bombers, as well as conduct reconnaissance or carry a certain type of ammunition. The creation of several variants of drones in the Gremlins program is under consideration.

The interface and control system of a group of UAVs is being developed at Kutta Technology. The main problem is to create equipment that could synchronize and unsynchronize the work of several UAVs via communication channels when they are in the air and when they perform a specific task.

Gremlins is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2019. It is stated that testing of UAVs in flight mode as part of a group has already been carried out.

Comments

[evil partisan]

In the process, drones flew out of Pandora's box ...

[vkl.47]

They can only cope with such EMRs. If they really are a swarm

[alexmach]

There is an old solution, from Soviet times - SAM with special warheads.

[Vladimir16]

We are already ready to counter-the UAV "Fly Swatter".

I think the "swarm of UAVs" is a banal cut. Fashionable technical solution multiplied by American greed.

[alexmach]

We are already ready to counter-the UAV "Fly Swatter". wassat

Which no one has ever seen anywhere.

I think "swarm of UAVs" is a banal cut

I doubt it very much. In general, it seems counterproductive to any new product that we don’t have to react to as "another cut."

[MPN]

Quote: alexmach

I doubt very much.

The cost of the "swarm" + infrastructure maintenance management system should correspond to the significance of the goal ... If there is one, then the goal justifies the means ..., well, there will be opposition, well, so that it would be disgraceful ... Who knows what the program is for .. a swarm of anti-ship missiles flies us ... the principle is the same ... perhaps these studies will find application much wider than the author of the article presents ... The word "swarm" is simply very associative and brings something to everyone who has honey in the apiary and who something else ...

[alexmach]

The cost of the "swarm" + infrastructure management service management system should correspond to the significance of the goal ...

So it may be the role of these Gremlins carrying weapons and flying at speeds close to supersonic, or maybe a swarm of small "Chinese crafts."
Moreover, most drones try to cheapen them as much as possible, especially those that should be consumables for discharging air defense systems, and, most importantly, drones, by definition, they do not carry the most valuable thing in an aircraft - a pilot.

And the service infrastructure - it can also be reusable .. so to speak, a catalytic investment.

[cast iron]

In general, the idea is strange. Against the Bedouins, point strikes from single drones and aircraft are quite enough. And against Russia, a swarm is useless. because A nuclear missile will be launched towards the carrier aircraft. His will not suffer, because The carrier aircraft will be outside the borders of the Russian Federation. If we are considering the initial phase of the war.

[alexmach]

And swarm against Russia is useless

Well, in the sense of useless? Arrived, defused the air defense system in front of fixed assets. And that’s all. A hundred years at lunch. But the nuclear missile must still have, now they are not on duty. But the uterus doesn’t enter the air defense zone at all, it’s not a fact that anyone will even find it.

Again, in a swarm of these gremlins, you can also use special warheads, but for kids with a wingspan of a meter and a half, it is, as it were, disproportionate.

[MPN]

Quote: alexmach

And the service infrastructure - it can also be reusable .. so to speak, a catalytic investment.

Absolutely agree. As far as I understand, this is a general research program for working out, even most likely just one of the links in the control system or using AI for control, and where in the end these operating time will be applied, well, alas, guessing ...

[Dam]

As in the old joke: so far no one is going anywhere. Pinds have a lot of plans and have had them. Here with the implementation is not very

[SHURUM -BURUM]

evil partisans (Half-Act) Today, 08: 11 New
In the process, drones flew out of Pandora's box ...

And speaking in plain language, we see a systematic progressive, not chaotic, but systematic movement of Americans towards the creation of weapons on new components.

[ded100]

I recalled the eponymous old movie similar to Trump and his gang!

[Mountain shooter]

The development of unmanned systems in this direction is obvious. As well as the introduction of elements of "artificial intelligence" - to increase autonomy. It remains only to check these systems for immunity to "EMP", and the communication systems of these "swarms" for immunity to interference from electronic warfare equipment.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

and the communication systems of these "swarms" for resistance to interference from electronic warfare.

These swarms will fly to these means, first of all, like a fly on honey.

[cast iron]

Do not reach. They’re hitting the area where the uterus flies with a nuclear charge and it’s the end.

[Corsair0304]

Well, the adversary is getting ready, getting ready. Using his concept of remote shooting "shot - forgot." The weakness of this design is only in that it is possible to intercept control of these drones. But this is more a question for our scientists with bright heads.

[alexmach]

Management takeover is more of a fairy tale nowadays. Much more realistic is just a break in communication.

[100500]

And this swarm can unsettle some simple EW jammer?

[milling machine]

Quote: 100500

And this swarm can unsettle some simple EW jammer?

Конечно.
As everyone knows - Americans are nutuupy. Therefore, these gremlins can be suppressed special. cap - EW straight from the couch.

[100500]

Dumb are not dumb, but recently in terms of new products do not shine. And the new tomahawks are not so smart and the latest ships don’t want to sail.

[Romario_Argo]

for our promising radars like ROFAR - these UAVs are not a problem (!)
ROFAR can determine the presence of weapons, its quantity and type on board a UAV, aircraft, and its absence
* opener becomes useless

[alexmach]

for our promising ROFAR radars

... which we do not have yet ....

[Romario_Argo]

I wouldn’t say so, but would go on a “tour” to Tomilino in a helicopter plant near Moscow. I travel by train and constantly listen to the disputes of engineers from this enterprise, by the way, about ROFAR, whose radar is actively undergoing trial operation in order to reveal its full potential.
* Hello (!) to Estonia - from the Ka-52 and Mi-28 helicopter brigades

[alexmach]

I work in a sense of a secret organization, and I know very few secrets, but I also have instructions on what can and cannot be discussed in public places, especially where they can recognize and compare me with my work. So your engineers have a reprimand, you can do it right in the train ... well, and there, do not forget to ask about the details :)
Helicopter brigade is also a shelter

[Volkof]

In technical terms, counteraction will be difficult ... If the operation is planned in advance, then the coordinates can be scored during preparation, and in the future, fly autonomously, using correction if possible and one-time commands if necessary. So counteraction can be minimized ....

[ZVO]

Quote: 100500

And this swarm can unsettle some simple EW jammer?

Yes. Just like Murphy’s law.
Our 100-dollar kinescope will save you a 1-cent fuse - burning first.

The electronic warfare system will destroy the heels of drones - taking them on themselves.

It’s only bad that we will destroy the electronic warfare system, and they only have five drones.

[Abram]

These drones struck me even at the opening of the 2018 Olympics. I immediately thought what would happen if hundreds of similar military analogs were set against air defense systems. Wash this future, showing the backwardness of all these s-400, Shell, Bukov and other things, from the realities of the late 20th century

[Volodin]

Quote: Abram

Wash this future, showing the backwardness of all these c-400, Pantsirey, Bukov and others, from the reality of the end of 20 century

Yes ... And "Kalash" is also outdated, it doesn’t use demand at all, for the future is behind a plasma bazooka!)))

[bulvas]

Quote: Abram

These drones struck me even at the opening of the 2018 Olympics. I immediately thought what would happen if hundreds of similar military analogs were set against air defense systems. Wash this future, showing the backwardness of all these s-400, Shell, Bukov and other things, from the realities of the late 20th century

What an advanced Abram!

those. today there are no longer ordinary manned aircraft, cruise missiles, other guided missiles, and "all these s-400s, beeches, armor" are no longer needed - you can write off.


Do not scamper when necessary, other weapons will appear on “these drones” and others (they are already appearing and improving) - lasers, electromagnetic radiation and more

[Abram]

Someone may be improving, but it does not seem that the Russian Federation. According to some reports, the toys bought on aliexpress have already successfully attacked the videoconferencing base in Syria

[bulvas]

Quote: Abram

Someone may be improving, but it does not seem that the Russian Federation. According to some reports, the toys bought on aliexpress have already successfully attacked the videoconferencing base in Syria

Does Abram have a late ignition?

Or, like Zhvanetsky’s
- "I read the news with a delay of 3 days"

Reread the news in recent months, there have been other attacks that the Shells have all repelled.

Something Abram slows down, do not discredit yourself so

[sabakina]

Yes, I understood long ago that Abram was mishandled, everything Russian about him is rusty and morally tired. But the Amer - ahead of the rest!

[dragy52rus]

according to some reports, someone M.V. Lomonosov went with a convoy from Kholmogor to Moscow. )))

[zulusuluz]

Someone may be improving, but it does not seem that the Russian Federation. According to some reports, the toys bought on aliexpress have already successfully attacked the videoconferencing base in Syria

Can you compare the effectiveness with the American Patriot ???

[Vard]

What is the difference between such a swarm from a massive launch, let's say the same axes ... Here is an attempt to reduce the cost of the carrier and give it greater autonomy and secrecy ... But the remote control has an inherent defect ... It can either be cut off into a blunt ... Or intercepted. ...

[alexmach]

If their task is to defuse themselves with air defense systems, and if possible attack even in the mode of barrage of ammunition. That can be done without communication with the operator. Follow the given route if you find on it that you are being irradiated with a radar - you dive onto the radar, if you didn’t find anything - get together at the end of the route at point X. There is no need for communication with the operator.

[Guru]

We tell them about Daggers and Poseidons, and they tell us about the Grimlins. We can say that this is a standard exchange of courtesies in the spirit of the Cold War. Bored Girls

[rocket757]

The topic is not boring, quite relevant to itself, then it will be too late to wave a saber.
In principle, it is necessary to develop close defense, but certainly what is required is an effective means of counteraction. et as there are means of destruction of carriers, control points and starting positions of everything and everything!
Those. we come to something long-range, super powerful with increased potential to overcome all countermeasures!
"Kuzkin mother", for example, something like that!

[Engineer]

News a hundred years in the afternoon and was already discussed here ... well, it’s clear that not everything was expressed)

[askort154]

Perhaps the most effective will be the destruction of the "queens." Although they are not going to enter the air defense zone, they can be tracked at their home locations. With well-established modern intelligence, this is easier and more effective than chasing after each PSU.

[voyaka uh]

This topic is very promising. They argue what size should
be drones in a swarm, what radius of action, with what speed
must fly. But in principle it’s clear: such a swarm can disarm
modern missile defense systems, if they reach them.
Any systems: both Russian, and American, and Israeli.
There are no weapons from them yet.

[Nehist]

Yah!!! There is a good old ZSU 23x4 Shilka! If the radar is finalized, then 3-4 cars will paint this swarm in cabbage for the density of fire

[farcop]

Yes, and that’s fine, the weapon of the future. It was necessary, one by one, they hunted individual representatives of the personnel, but it was necessary - they got together and something big was fucked up.

[cats]

How do these gremlins differ from tamahawks?
Also brains outside.
They say the Syrian soldiers are crooked-handed, but how much they inflicted on this evil with our complexes ..
Another expensive toy.

[g1washntwn]

Swarm tactics for reloading air defense zones are operational only in large numbers, which means cheap disposable drones. Immediately another "reusability" with a return to the medium. What the hell?
Drones should have enough autonomy to first approach the air defense zone, hold out for a while in a swarm depicting false targets and putting electronic warfare in the air, manage to survive, and then return to the same distance. And this is hundreds of kilometers in our case, that is, such drones certainly will not be cheap. But one-time drones have such difficulties with returning and docking to anything, but this is an existing version with Harpy / Harop.

[Vard]

Shilka is ideal for fighting drones ... Cheap and cheerful ...