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The problem of migrants. Soldiers for Russia

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We graduate from high school and in deaf villages
Scatter to distant lands.

You will go to the reindeer,
I'll leave for hot Turkestan.

I will see the blue river
And, yielding to the requirement of years,
I will love a beautiful Uzbek,
And you will love Samoyed.
A. Berman, “Spring on Zarechnaya street”


What caused the mighty Roman Empire? Only from the fact that Roman women have ceased to give birth in abundance of children of both sexes. And this attack happened to them? Yes, because the Romans liked the taste of wine, which was stored in lead vessels, the hair of "metallic color" (and they dyed them, combing them with lead combs), and the water came to their houses through lead pipes. As a result, a massive reduction in the population, since lead poisoning affects primarily the copulative sphere of the body ... That is, there are no men, no more soldiers, and slaves and mercenaries are not an army!



Why Japanese samurai could not reflect the expansion of European powers and the United States? Yes, simply because in the 250 years of their domination, they simply degenerated. And why? Yes, because the Japanese - the wives and concubines of the samurai whitened the face and chest with whitewash based on mercury. And babies licked mercury along with mother's milk. And again, the reproductive sphere was damaged ... It was necessary for the samurai to support their kin, to adopt the children of peasants and merchants en masse. Here are just those still held. Of course, individuals among them met. But in general, they could not already properly respond to the challenges of time. That changed their shopkeepers and traders, women whose etiquette did not order whitewash.

Well, what processes took place in our country? I was born, for example, in the 1954 year and lived in Penza on Proletarskaya street. And so, if we consider only “this” side of the street (the opposite “side” was unfriendly with us), then from one end “of this side to the other, including our end of Mirskaya Street, with the guys of which we knew, The following picture: 19 houses, in which many families lived, but there were only 11 children - boys of about the same age and 1 (!) girl. And only in one family was 2 child-boy. And now think again: 19 houses and 12 children, and only 2 child in the same family! So the decline in the population of the USSR began not at all under Gorbachev, but practically shortly after the war. Moreover, one must think that something similar was happening in other places. And the growth that took place in our country in those years was carried out at the expense of ... well, of course, at the expense of the peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia.

Now let's see how many of these 11 people dropped the children. For all I will not say, but those whom I know, also had only one child. I have one child, my child has one child ... Meanwhile, how well known is that in order to reproduce the population, it is necessary for the family to have three children!

After completing my studies at the institute, my wife and daughter went to work in the village to “work out” free education. In principle, we could have stayed there forever, but this would not change the demographics in any way. But the lonely “sentry”, of course, “yielding to the demand of years,” wanted to multiply, and for this it was necessary to get married. In the three years we have worked in this village, two young female teachers on 4 have entered into such marriages. Two worked only for one year and left, but the two remaining married their own students! One worked as a cattleman and had the nickname “Shamok”, and his wife immediately became “Shamkova Baba”. It was fun to watch him drive her to work in his dung cart in the morning ... standing up! Because she was dressed "in a city", with a briefcase, and could not sit down. So she was balancing in her like in a circus, yes, it was actually for all the village people that there was a circus! What they had in common, except perhaps of peasant origin and a bed, I still cannot understand. But the result is important - one child. With the second teacher everything was the same, but her chosen one at least finished the technical school and worked as a mechanic. And also everything was limited to one child, although later, when we lost sight of each other, well, maybe the second one appeared. But no more!



During the same three-year term, two teachers committed suicide, one of our students, who became pregnant by a “summer” chauffeur, and a former student who was ousted for drinking from an agricultural technical school. That is two people of reproductive age.

And now let's look at the current migration situation in the country. Let's start with our Penza University ... Today, representatives of 47 countries of the world study in it, starting with Turkmenistan and ending with Gabon. In the evening, on the second shift, when 50% light bulbs were extinguished in the corridors, or even everything, happened to be frightened: a white shirt and pants were going to meet, and there were simply no hands and faces. Most study in a targeted direction and must, must, return to their homeland. But those who study for their money, when asked about future plans, usually answer this way: “I want to go to Moscow, St. Petersburg”. By the way, a lot of girls study here, including girls from Turkey, Bangladesh, India, and one can not even talk about sunny Central Asia. And this, by the way, is good. Because with respect to other migrants the picture is completely reversed.

As a rule, men go to work for us. They in no way want to adopt our culture, to fit into a way of life, but only to “raise the dough” a little more and go back. Others, on the contrary, bring their women and children, and somehow fit into our lives. Slowly, with difficulty, however their children will go to our schools and will gradually become other people. However, among migrants it is still not prestigious to “become Russian”. Not prestigious!



Meanwhile, the demographic situation in Russia is very specific. We have an abundance of women of retirement age with a shortage of women of the most reproductive age - 18 - 27 years. That is, according to statistics, everything is not so scary: there are many women. But from the gender and age point of view, they are sorely lacking.

That is ... you need to implement a well-considered migration policy in the country! And to invite to work not men, but women of childbearing age! Do you care who painted your apartment? Turkish man or Uzbek woman? It is important that it is well painted. And so almost everything. It is not at all difficult to compile a list of works to which, of the same sunny republics, it is possible to invite not men, but women of quite definite ages. Next, you need to provide them with the “conditions” of reproduction ... That is, that it would be beneficial for them to marry with the Russians, and for the Russians to marry the “women of the East”. For example, to issue a one-time allowance for arrangement, since “she has no roots”. A child born to her in Russia should automatically receive Russian citizenship, but if she wants to take him back, “home,” then for depriving Russia of her minor citizen, let him pay, say, 10 thousands of dollars. She thinks of such money, of course. And we - an extra citizen or citizen!

How to provide this? And this is how: in every country - “a potential human resource investor”, open the “Russian house” and let local Russians working there, show that we eat, drink, what they wear, what books they read, how much they earn ... So that the local aborigines could see that being Russian is prestigious! So that already from childhood, the idea to go to Russia and arrange their lives there was born in their hearts. Naturally, the “prize money” for educated migrant women should be greater than for simple “workers”, which will also encourage the educated part of their population to come to us, well, let the shepherds stay with themselves. That is, there must be an incentive for A to come to us - women of childbearing age, and B - so that among them were not just women, but also a sufficient number of women with education.



It is important to keep in mind one more circumstance. Crime! Among migrants, it is there, but ... again, it is important what its structure is. As a rule, in addition to purely immigration offenses, to the share of which gives the main number of illegal actions, the “people from the East” who come to us for work commit them twice. The first time you cross the border. That is, "they are driving." What is being transported is well known! And for what they drive it is known too - to create for the first time a “safety cushion”. Then they sit quieter than water below the grass. Families need to be fed at home! But here before them the departure is looming, and the 1-2 of the day before it is the most criminal. He went to the park, took a couple of mobile phones from the boys ... and to the homeland "with things." No one will catch up and catch, and then everything will be in a new way.

With women will not be so. And they will carry less ... and, most importantly, upon departure, the level of offenses will decrease by several times. But in the end ... as a result, we will have more people and children, but also workers and soldiers, and the tax base will grow!
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  1. urman
    urman 18 May 2018 05: 13
    +26
    I had to visit the wholesale market in Moscow,
    while my friend was running, he decided to go to a cafe,
    buy cigarettes for tea.
    I’ll tell you the picture was when I went there,
    like in the movie Brother 2.
    As soon as I went there and turned to the seller in Russian, the buzz verse and everyone stared at me
    like what is this Russian doing here,
    The desire to drink tea was gone, I bought cigarettes and left, I didn’t feel very comfortable.
    This is despite the fact that I am a fairly tolerant person and have spent enough time in Kyrgyzstan and have not experienced any problems ..
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 May 2018 07: 21
      +32
      The author is somewhat right, but basically still wrong. Moreover, the author goes aside - interchanges social causes and effects. And so even in some ways utopian.

      At present - the time of late capitalism - the relationship "labor - capital" по всему мируand not only in Russia, they are becoming more and more racial, “two-color” (white - “non-white”): the desire of “capital” to maximize profits due to the lower wages of the “non-white” segment of the working people. It is clear that such carriers of “labor” find themselves outside the trade unions, without social and political rights. The situation when the "labor - capital" relations acquire a racial-ethnic character is fraught with the dismantling of many democratic political institutions and values ​​that the working class has gained over the past 150 years in the world history of the development of capitalism.

      At the present time - we are witnessing the ousting of the exploited local population by the "capital" from the labor market. And if the locals have no work and no subsidies, then a person and family, and therefore no children, can have it. Fertility among the local population will naturally fall, and in the country there will be a replacement of the indigenous population for racial migration.
      1. dauria
        dauria 18 May 2018 08: 30
        +12
        And if the locals have no work and no subsidies, then a person and family, and therefore no children, can have it.


        Controversial statement. It turns out it seems the opposite - the better they live, the less they give birth. Here you can’t whip up capitalism and exploitation — in the USSR and the Swedes there is one picture. What for give birth, if you can not give birth. And the author’s fabrications about the collapse of Rome and the samurai because of lead pipes and white laughing And Napoleon with Hitler because of what? Or the British Empire and the USSR?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 18 May 2018 09: 04
          +10
          Quote: dauria
          And if the locals have no work and no subsidies, then a person and family, and therefore no children, can have it.
          Controversial statement. It turns out, it seems, on the contrary - the better they live, the less they give birth. Here you can’t whip up capitalism and exploitation — in the USSR and the Swedes there is one picture. What for give birth, if you can not give birth.
          Demography in the country should not be approached from home-grown reasoning, but still from a scientifically sound position.
          Here, for example, the statistics of the birth rate and mortality of the population of the RSFSR / RF by year at different time periods by year.

          T.N. The "Russian Cross", when the birth rate equaled mortality, arose in the 1991 -1992 year.

          In general, the graph clearly shows how fertility depends on the well-being of the population and social stability or instability in society.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 May 2018 09: 15
            +9
            But the demographic chart for a longer period of time, covering the period under Stalin and Khrushchev, as well as taking into account the war years and national politics in the country.


            NOTE.
            In the 1936 year, due to the difficult demographic situation, operations on artificial termination of pregnancy were again banned under penalty of criminal liability (Decree of the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of 27 on June 1936)

            The law on the prohibition of abortion was in force in the USSR until 1955. On November 23 1955 of the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR “On the abolition of the prohibition of abortion”, all women were allowed to perform an artificial termination of pregnancy in the absence of medical contraindications.

            See RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/spravka/20100803/261197627.html
            1. gaura
              gaura 21 May 2018 13: 18
              +1
              With the "Russian Cross" it is clear. Millions of people who did not fit into the market, etc. achievements of liberals and democrats. But even the author of the article says that far from Gorbachev it became unfashionable / inconvenient to give birth. When to give birth, there is a need to work. I do not agree with the village children only, there were usually a lot of them. Now the standard of living has increased significantly, and requests have risen. Now how can you give birth if there is no car, for example. And most importantly, why give birth, if you can travel, enjoy life the way it would not work out before. But just the traditional cultures of the Caucasus do not think about this, therefore they multiply, although their life is clearly not richer than ours. And quite the opposite
        2. naidas
          naidas 18 May 2018 11: 50
          +3
          Quote: dauria
          Or the British Empire and the USSR?

          I won’t say British, and in the USSR there was no sex.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 May 2018 12: 29
            +17
            Quote: naidas
            Quote: dauria
            Or the British Empire and the USSR?
            I won’t say British, and in the USSR there was no sex.
            This phrase of the Soviet woman in the discussion on the fact is taken out of the context of the discussion, in my opinion, from the telecast of the USSR-USA teleconference! Namely. By "sex" it was understood prostitution and liberal debauchery, legalized in the West, which the capitalist Western world was already famous for then! In the USSR this really was not. And she was 1000 times right, if her words were understood correctly!
            As a result, we now have that the West, in the decomposition of its own morality, has moved even further than it was then. Namely, in the West, not only prostitution, as such, is already legalized, but homosexuality, lesbianism (even in Christianity bisexual marriages are registered in churches), pedophilia, bestiality, etc.
            It was in this regard that the Soviet woman uttered her phrase as a negative assessment of the moral licentiousness of Western society compared to Soviet. By the way, at the time when, she said so, Soviet girls were married for the first time to virgins !!! The moral state of Soviet society at that time can be judged even by the film "And if this is love?"
            If someone does not believe in this, then compared with fascist Germany, fascist doctors drew attention to this circumstance when examining Soviet girls who were driven to work in Germany from occupied Soviet territories. According to their data, 90% of them were virgins, while among German unmarried girls of the same age, only 20% were virgins. Hitler himself was especially informed personally about the chastity of Soviet youth as a moral characteristic of an adversary of fascist Germany!
          2. beeper
            beeper 18 May 2018 22: 22
            +6
            This phrase (which has already been so “commonly accepted" by all kinds of liberoids, poked by it for everyone), apparently for the sake of "mass media effect (it turned out that way)", was corrupted by the "direct broadcast" of one of the first Posner TV bridges USSR-USA "a Soviet woman said that in the USSR there is no sex WITHOUT LOVE ... request
            But journalism is, by and large, the "art of sensation" yes !
            And what is the most primitive and most popular of the "sensations"? Of course, the scandal, whether real or artificial (or, as they like to say today, "fake"!) yes !
            The poor woman then got tired of making excuses to acquaintances and strangers for these words taken out of context!
            And you, Naidas, there too wink ?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 18 May 2018 22: 25
              +2
              Quote: pishchak
              The poor woman then got tired of making excuses to acquaintances and strangers for these words taken out of context!

              Posner kind of apologized later to her, but not to the camera.
      2. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 18 May 2018 09: 32
        +5
        Serbian Kosovo forgot ... ????
        And the capitalist -... there is nothing new ..

        “Capital is afraid of lack of profit or profit too small, just as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once there is enough profit available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20 percent it becomes lively, with 50 percent positively ready to break his head, at 100 percent he violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that he would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows. "" "
        ((Dunning. Dunning TJ, Trade's Unions and Strikes: Their Philosophy and Intention. - London: Published by the author, and Sold by M. Harley, No 5, Raquet court, Fleet street, EC 1860. - P. 35-36 . - 52 p. From the collection of K. Marx and F. Engels. Works. Edition 2-e. T. 23, S. 770. And Dunning, in turn, argues with the anonymous author of the review from the Quarterly Review ... Thomas Joseph Dunning (English Thomas Joseph Dunning) - British leader of the trade union movement, publicist ...))
      3. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
        Vladimir Ter-Odiyants 18 May 2018 20: 44
        +6
        Quote: Tatiana
        The author is somewhat right

        It’s a very controversial statement. For example, Turkic migrants coming to the Russian Federation will not integrate. Most likely they will settle in groups, it’s more convenient and safer from their point of view. Among the above, clannishness, mutual responsibility are highly developed. And do not forget religious factor!
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 18 May 2018 22: 51
        +3
        Tatyana hi :
        The author is somewhat correct ...
        I support you, at least 110%hi
      5. Slavik Ivanov
        Slavik Ivanov 20 May 2018 01: 58
        +1
        The author is right to defend and solve his problems more pragmatically and firmly !! And do not forget to throw off a couple of cops from the budget of the country by sending them to court and who roofed the drug trade because of which there were not a lot of people in Russia. And now because of them, now we have to invent cunning methods of replenishing the population of Russia !!!!
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 18 May 2018 09: 14
      +9
      I often go to the Food City wholesale market for work, regularly have a snack in the Uzbek cafe “Taste of the East” (excellent and inexpensive cuisine), there are not many Russians there, but nobody looks askance, on the contrary, the staff is friendly and always finds us the best table.
      1. Meshcheryak
        Meshcheryak 18 May 2018 17: 33
        +6
        Try another meal there in Once Upon a Time in Tashkent. They cook wonderfully!
        1. Slavik Ivanov
          Slavik Ivanov 20 May 2018 02: 04
          +1
          The topic is topical and these Stomachs have moved on to the topic of food, so who are you after that!?
    3. Blue fox
      Blue fox 18 May 2018 09: 59
      +16
      Familiar situation. I work in St. Petersburg next to the "famous" Aprazhka-Apraksin yard. There is one “cafe” where the Pakistani family works and they cook wonderful Pakistani rice with good mutton and beef in different forms. So, my colleagues are afraid to go there without me, because the views and behavior of visitors are unfriendly. They only understand strength and power, therefore, thanks to normal and polite relations with hospitable hosts (I really didn’t tell them where I was addicted to Pakistani rice and where I got it), using the appropriate verbal turns and observing the rules of communication, well, the corresponding “face” person ", developed during the period of service in the North Caucasus Military District, manages to extinguish in the bud the discontent of the" guests of the city "who for some reason decided that they were the owners. Moreover, the contingent is just from the Asian republics.
    4. odometer
      odometer 20 May 2018 15: 55
      +1
      That's it, and against this background, I am surprised by some comments about allegedly discrimination on language in Kazakhstan.
      1. megavolt823
        megavolt823 22 May 2018 15: 17
        0
        Kazakhstan is becoming more and more a nationalist country. it is a fact . but there is a certain markup in the views. I’m talking about directing, which can be more clearly understood when talking with young people from 17 to 25. this is not an outbreak of dope, as in Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Chechnya in the period from 1990 to 1993. this work, starting with textbooks ending with the statements of politicians and their steps. as once in the Baltic states, Ukraine. hi
        1. odometer
          odometer 22 May 2018 15: 36
          0
          Do you live in Kazakhstan?
    5. Pollux
      Pollux 24 May 2018 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: urman
      As soon as I went there and turned to the seller in Russian, the buzz verse and everyone stared at me
      like what is this Russian doing here

      This is your personal phobia.
  2. urman
    urman 18 May 2018 05: 24
    +31
    And how do you like this situation (I wrote already) in my howling city I stopped in front of a remote barbecue, without breaking anything.
    Two middle Asians told me that I’m blocking their point and that I’ve left, saying that it’s their land, I understand that they wanted to say the point of sale, Well, in my eyes it got dark for some reason and I had to explain to them where their land is
    1. 24rus
      24rus 18 May 2018 11: 44
      +8
      Hucksters have no nationality .. This is a class of ghouls such
      1. akunin
        akunin 18 May 2018 16: 40
        +7
        Yes, there is nationality, if that they love “their own”, but “they will not send their own” (moreover, in Russian).
        1. your1970
          your1970 19 May 2018 17: 31
          0
          oh, how are they then inside Of their are you engaged in trade? There are practically no Russians there! Who is being weighed, cheated on, to whom are rotten?
          Hucksters - they are out of nationality ...
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 19 May 2018 19: 11
        +4
        Quote: 24rus
        Hucksters have no nationality .. This is a class of ghouls such

        I’m probably also a huckster in your concept, all my life in trading, where would you go without us? And yes the hucksters plow all their life without days off and walk-throughs. Life decreed that with my technical and military education I had to engage in trade. Now is not the best of times, but my priority is the salary of employees, and then everything else. Where do you find a ghoul here? And yes I am Russian!
        1. Slavik Ivanov
          Slavik Ivanov 20 May 2018 02: 07
          0
          So you are a good example of how everything should be in Russia, not someone and from somewhere, but they should do their own if they want this or that type of trade for one reason or another !!!!
  3. YELLOWSTONE
    YELLOWSTONE 18 May 2018 05: 28
    +8
    you give them another weapon lol
  4. tasha
    tasha 18 May 2018 05: 29
    +19
    you can invite not men, but women of quite certain ages


    You have a poor idea of ​​the role and attitude towards women in Islam ... For example, in one of the republics of the USSR in Soviet times - men sit on the second floor, eat. The owner of the house knocks twice with his foot on the floor - the woman brings another dish ...
  5. FC Rostov
    FC Rostov 18 May 2018 05: 35
    +8
    Once our grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against the enemy, and now we are migrants ... pah ...
    1. urman
      urman 18 May 2018 06: 17
      +47
      Quote: FK Rostov
      When our grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder

      Just do not speculate on this.
      In Soviet times, there were no migrants, they came to study in Russia, I have a lot of acquaintances and friends from Central Asia and men and women living in mixed marriages. Well, these are Soviet people, with Soviet education
      And now young people who do not know Russian are arriving, imposing their charters, such as conquerors.
      Quote: FK Rostov
      and now we are migrants ... pah ...

      It’s not for you to reproach Russia with a bad attitude, because in principle it doesn’t exist.
      Remember how in your republics Russians and Russian speakers survived, by what methods.
      Oh yes it was your awakening of nat consciousness,
      and if in Russia you just hear dissatisfaction then you are already raising a cry, nationalism.
      Wanted supposedly independence, get and sign.
      But why did you rush after you expelled to Russia, and where is your national consciousness and pride?
      What without Russia or what? So China will help you.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 08
        +10
        Do not not China, they are afraid to use lol , there is one problem with the Chinese - they are mono-ethnic and guess "HOW did you get it." The answer is obvious - EVERYONE who was not the "titular nation" was exterminated))
        1. tasha
          tasha 18 May 2018 11: 00
          +9
          mono-ethnic

          But what about the Uighurs, Tibetans, the Mongols internal?
          1. urman
            urman 19 May 2018 04: 29
            0
            Quote: tasha
            But what about the Uighurs, Tibetans, the Mongols internal?

            Well, let's die
            1. tasha
              tasha 19 May 2018 04: 37
              +2
              We will be. I think that while the leaders of the PRC are headed for turning the country into a powerful, modern state, no ethnic cleansing (approximately 70-80 million people) is not expected there. Life in China is improving, and separatism (especially religious) is being fought very hard ...
        2. urman
          urman 18 May 2018 11: 47
          +7
          Quote: Mih1974
          exterminated ALL who were not the "titular nation"))

          I don’t know, probably not.
          Not exterminated, but assimilated to themselves.
          The point is not the Slavs, but the Russian speakers.
          When I write Russian, I mean those Kirghiz who studied with me in the same class, and both Uzbeks and Tatars, Germans and general. and even the Poles were
          You do not represent, but no represent what it was COUNTRY
          And now .......... that's just we are old and stayed.
          How do I feel sorry for my Grandson, he did not find
      2. Pissarro
        Pissarro 19 May 2018 07: 59
        +2
        Wanted supposedly independence, get and sign.]


        In Central Asia they did not want independence, they imposed it on them
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 May 2018 06: 17
      +30
      No problem - join the Russian Federation as a subject of the federation. and we will live together. And then you want to live in my apartment, while having your own apartment.
      It’s somehow wrong, isn’t it? wink
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 May 2018 06: 38
        +5
        You write everything correctly, Ingvar and Urman ...
        I have something to drive the Russians who behave on our common land with them as conquerors ... wink
        It is necessary to live in such a way that it is not our color that is not the color of the skin, not the size of the eyes, but the behavior and attitude towards other people ... It's better to make your own people. This will be the right nationalism. And ask your own stricter than with visitors ...

        Otherwise, it will be stupid and primitive Nazism, no matter what words it covers itself ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 18 May 2018 07: 05
          +11
          Quote: tasha
          Otherwise, it will be stupid and primitive Nazism, no matter what words it covers itself ...

          No. There is no Nazism in Kuwait and the UAE; migrants can easily live and work there. But they will never get citizenship. And it is right. I have not in vain cited the analogy with apartments as an example.
          Regarding the cut of the eyes, each nation has its own mentality and its own national characteristics, which go against the mentality of another nation. This is called cultural differences. And yet no government of multinational states has succeeded in resolving this problem completely. request
          1. tasha
            tasha 18 May 2018 07: 21
            +4
            And rightly so.

            May be. Those. we want to build life in Russia like on a cruise ship. On the upper decks are top-class citizens, and somewhere in the darkness of the holds there is a service team that will work for us. It's not bad too... wink
            If anyone comes from Ukraine, where is he going? In the hold? Deny obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation will have to all. Including, as delicately they say "compatriots abroad." I think you understand why ...

            And not a single government of multinational states

            I don’t know about others. I can only judge about the USSR and about Russia. It all depends on the state-forming people. And with him we have big, big problems .. I’ll tell you a secret-his mentality, according to my personal long-term observations, is something like that ... request What to do, how to be .. It is not clear ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 18 May 2018 07: 35
              +12
              Quote: tasha
              and somewhere in the darkness of the holds - a service team that will work for us. Good too...

              Do not want to live in the darkness of the hold - it’s not a question, you have your own liner (state). And if you really want to go to our ship - please, follow the ship's charter of our ship. wink
              Quote: tasha
              "compatriots abroad."

              It is possible to make an exception in the legislation. request
              Quote: tasha
              according to my personal long-term observations, he has some kind of mentality ...

              Normal mentality.
              1. tasha
                tasha 18 May 2018 07: 41
                +6
                follow the ship charter of our ship

                If we ourselves do not honor our charter, then what is required of visitors from the people? And they have religion in reserve, but what do we have? Pasta monsters? wink
                You can make an exception in the law

                Yeah. And how to decide who is worthy and who is not? Need a compass?
                The most important thing is no Nazism wink

                Normal mentality.

                Normal, normal .. lol We will not continue. I shared, you heard ...
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 18 May 2018 07: 46
                  +5
                  Quote: tasha
                  If we ourselves do not honor our charter, then what is required of visitors from the people? And they have religion in reserve, but what do we have? Pasta monsters?

                  Solvable, would be a desire. but with the desire of "our" government problems ....
                  Quote: tasha
                  Yeah. And how to decide who is worthy and who is not? Need a compass?

                  No, not a compass. Birth certificate.
                  1. tasha
                    tasha 18 May 2018 08: 09
                    +3
                    Solvable, would be a desire. but with the desire of "our" government problems ....

                    Our government comes, put things in order ..
                    The government is not ours, the country is not ours, why be surprised? wink
                    Birth certificate.

                    And what should be written there? If dad is Russian, mom is not. Let’s go? Or Mom - Ukrainian, and Dad Bashkirs? Where to drive? wink
                    1. Ermak
                      Ermak 18 May 2018 14: 57
                      +6
                      Quote: tasha
                      Solvable, would be a desire. but with the desire of "our" government problems ....

                      Our government comes, put things in order ..
                      The government is not ours, the country is not ours, why be surprised? wink
                      Birth certificate.

                      And what should be written there? If dad is Russian, mom is not. Let’s go? Or Mom - Ukrainian, and Dad Bashkirs? Where to drive? wink

                      There is a good Russian proverb: where I was born there and came in handy
                      It all depends on the state-forming people. And with him we have big, big problems .. I’ll tell you a secret-his mentality, according to my personal long-term observations, is something like that ... request What to do, how to be .. It's unclear ...

                      Study better than your mentality. And then, probably, he sees in someone else's mote, but in his logs he does not notice
                      If anyone comes from Ukraine, where is he going? In the hold? Deny obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation will have to all.

                      Everything in this life must be earned, especially the right to citizenship.
                      Come to the military unit or to the police station and shake the rights there, place them at work or demand a salary .....
                      No, settle down, earn the title, and then feel like on the upper deck.
                      1. tasha
                        tasha 18 May 2018 15: 35
                        +2
                        Not very serious and no offense. - Adjusted for Friday evening, I will not write down your comment on stupid ones, but I will answer too .. Somehow later, okay? Something I'm tired. And tomorrow to work :)
                2. Alber
                  Alber 18 May 2018 12: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: tasha
                  who is worthy and who is not? Need a compass?

                  That's about the compass, usually the Jews for some reason cry! Well, they don’t like the compass for some reason
            2. Alber
              Alber 18 May 2018 11: 57
              +10
              Quote: tasha
              May be. Those. we want to build life in Russia like on a cruise ship. On the upper decks are top-class citizens, and somewhere in the darkness of the holds there is a service team that will work for us. T


              But are you really blind and don’t see that the Upper Decks in Russia have long been captured by a pity of the “busy” God-chosen Jewish people, and the indigenous Russian people (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars, Mordvinians, etc.) are interrupted as times in the holds, in cramped conditions and without fresh air?
              Is this not visible?
              Is this fair?
              1. tasha
                tasha 18 May 2018 15: 40
                +4
                Shirley-myrli, Shirley-manirli ... Everywhere they are ... Masons .. winked
                My ancestors vowed "to serve the great sovereign faithfully, in the collection of a yasak gladiator", and he gave us "God chosen" to tear to pieces ... How? How now to relate to the Russian people ?! wink
              2. your1970
                your1970 19 May 2018 17: 38
                0
                yes, yes, yes, everything is completely Jewish ...
                True, Jews believe that there are only 20 to 30 million of them on Earth. But the bulk are only with us, exclusively with us, and at once in all positions starting from the supply manager ....
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 11
            +2
            Mm repeat the Chinese "decided" lol , only no one wants to have the same "decide" with them, "Comrade Hitler" was far from a pioneer in the "issue of final decision."
          3. your1970
            your1970 19 May 2018 17: 35
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            There is no Nazism in Kuwait and the UAE; migrants can easily live and work there. But they will never get citizenship.
            I’m embarrassed to remind you that Kuwait is half the size of the Saratov Region. Therefore, if they give birth to 2 children, they will not die out and the population density will not decrease. And we would like at least 3-4 ..
      2. urman
        urman 18 May 2018 14: 26
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        while having your own apartment.

        YES, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 18 May 2018 09: 10
      +20
      Quote: FC Rostov
      Once our grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against the enemy, and now we are migrants ... pah ...

      So to your grandfathers and great-grandfathers no complaints. But you and your fathers were screaming: “Ruske, remove our land”, you no longer have the right to appeal to their bright image.
      1. Sam_gosling
        Sam_gosling 18 May 2018 11: 36
        +3
        So Nazism was born.
      2. Meshcheryak
        Meshcheryak 18 May 2018 16: 04
        +11
        Yes! and Wahhabism among modern migrants is booming! with any mess, we have thousands of potential enemies in the rear. Even personally, I was faced with one situation when in Moscow a taxi driver recruits igil, I think there are many similar cases.
    4. Mih1974
      Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 06
      +17
      Uh, why do you put the cart in front of the horse, ah? :)
      We recall the year 1991, the collapse of the USSR, and WHAT began in the republics - stupidity from "freedom", no longer tyranny of evil Russians, you can reintroduce slavery, bais, and of course "urgently kill or expel all Russians." It is said - done, which of the Russians did not run away - those were killed and the "happiness" occurred in the countries of Central Asia. He wants - shepherd sheep of the bai, do not want to - go to the wild Russians to work, "freedom", what did you like?
      While the RUSSIANS “hit with a stick on the head” and forced you to be People - in Central Asia there were industry and agriculture and universities, and anyone, ANY Tatzhik, Uzbek, Kazakh could go to Kolyma to wash gold in an artel in his car, he could in Moscow or Peter will study at the best art schools, return to himself and act in national films that will then be seen by all 200 million citizens of the USSR, could go to university and do science, any one he can do. good And no one would ever poke him into the fact that he came from a mountainous small village or "not a prestigious family." And yes, during the Second World War we all together in the same trenches, shoulder to shoulder defeated the evil of world level ..
      Answer me - who made you kill and expel the Russians after the collapse of the USSR? And I have to rub here “it's not me”, just “ordinary people” were doing this, neither the Heads of your countries, nor the Ministers personally (probably) killed and drove out a single Russian, it was all “on the ground”.
      As soon as the "Russian tyrant" left you unattended - the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks began to kill and tear each other to pieces so that probably the Middle Ages would "puke." negative
      Okay, there you all do not like the "evil Russian invaders" all together, but among your neighbors why are you so atrocious?
      You can consider the following Russian chauvinism, but "only the Russian Governor-General is able to put an end to lawlessness and restore order to these regions." bully good
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 May 2018 10: 57
        +6
        And no one would ever poke him into the fact that he is from a mountain small village or "not a prestigious family"

        Eh, fairy tales, fairy tales .. sad
        You didn’t have a chance to live with a non-Russian muzzle among the Russian muzzles and not in the city, but in the village ... I will tell you, the experience is unforgettable ... And not only teenage children, but also adults .. We had, for example, a teacher car dealers, a rare bastard, I’ll tell you .. I liked to ask at the lesson: "Well, tell me, what do you think, a wrench ...". And after all, there is no one to complain, because we have such a Soviet upbringing ...
        Now I’m thinking about that time. But if our Nazis were among our people, if I had washed my brains a bit, put the armature in my hands, I would have gone nowhere ... It is clear that I would not have touched my friends and their parents, but the list would be rather big .. . belay
        1. Rakti-kali
          Rakti-kali 19 May 2018 08: 36
          +4
          Quote: tasha
          You didn’t have a chance to live with a non-Russian muzzle among Russian muzzles and not in the city, but in the village ... I will tell you, the experience is unforgettable ...

          Gaps more! Azerbaijanis still take my father, Russian (well, quite a bit of a Pole) for their own, but never (well, except for the mid-90s in Moscow) in the territory from the Dnieper to the Urals and from the sources of the Volga to Araks with a "non-Russian face" problems with Russians did not have. But with the “Russian face” in Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, Chechnya in the late 80s and early 90s there were at least a big deal of food.
          1. tasha
            tasha 20 May 2018 05: 45
            +2
            More gaps

            You are ridiculous .. Talk with your father about this topic. Yes, and just talk while you have the opportunity ...

            Here's a topic for you to think about. There was the Soviet Union. For almost 70 years, young people were brought up in the traditions of Soviet internationalism. Do you remember our textbooks? We also studied from them? Those. For several generations of Soviet children, brothers and sisters should have already been each other .. And suddenly, overnight, bloody clashes began on ethnic grounds ... Right now, from scratch, did it start? Had you served in the Soviet army?
        2. urman
          urman 19 May 2018 09: 18
          +3
          Something seems to me, you're lying a nice man very much!
          Especially about the Soviet time,
          then after all, as it was, there are brains, go ahead.
          And your nationality is not important.
          Well, if, oak like a tree, you will be born Baobab.
          And nothing personal.
          By the way, nationalism was then present.
          With the same possibilities
          Kyrgyzstan was more likely to be appointed.
          So do not drive you, look at yourself in the mirror
          1. tasha
            tasha 20 May 2018 05: 12
            +1
            To convince you of something and argue, I consider it an exercise worthless and unnecessary ... In real life, I’m inadequate enough, and leave it to the masochists to voluntarily contact them on the Internet. wink
            Live in captivity of myths about a country with jelly banks and rivers of milk, in which "everything was" further .. Only you won’t be able to understand what was - everything ....
    5. Slavik Ivanov
      Slavik Ivanov 20 May 2018 02: 11
      0
      So do not become vermin and scum !!
      And who is to blame for you, that you, as the last suckers, are following ISIS, believe in the exclusivity of Islam, call others infidels, you are being bred and you are leading the price to rubbish, and hatred and distrust are growing towards you.
    6. major147
      major147 22 May 2018 20: 44
      +3
      You fought hard for your "independence" and drove the Russian "occupier" from your land! What do you want now?
  6. tasha
    tasha 18 May 2018 05: 36
    +8
    How many young and strong men of Russia are sitting in offices, transferring pieces of paper from place to place .. Or by security guards ... I have a small bank branch next door. Seven!
    And again, the North Koreans arrived at the construction site ..
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 18 May 2018 05: 54
      +3
      Excuse me, what do you work with?
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 May 2018 05: 57
        +15
        It’s hard to do business alone.
        The accountant is you.
        The janitor is you.
        The seller is you.
        A loader who swelled and did not go to work, substituting the whole company - you.

        Like that. I’m also a driver, an electrician, a little welder and builder, and even sometimes a boss .. wink
        1. Yura
          Yura 18 May 2018 07: 37
          +6
          Quote: tasha
          I’m also a driver, an electrician, a little welder and builder, and even sometimes a boss ..

          Who doesn’t want to give you a vacation. laughing
          1. tasha
            tasha 18 May 2018 07: 43
            +6
            And don’t say .. Finally, the huckster got bogged down and throws it with a salary ... laughing
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 13
          +19
          If you see a lonely man thumping in smoke in a restaurant - do not rush to condemn, perhaps this is a corporate individual entrepreneur. laughing
          1. Yura
            Yura 18 May 2018 10: 33
            +2
            Quote: Mih1974
            maybe it's an individual entrepreneur corporate party

            good This is something, imagined and thought them not to the Canary Islands.
    2. vindigo
      vindigo 19 May 2018 22: 48
      +2
      Excuse me. Do you have 7 men working in your bank branch? What kind of bank do you have? Now banks are a female kingdom. Of the men, it is usually a driver, an automator (if any), a security guard, and sometimes a male manager. And the guard does not belong to the banking structure, a third-party organization.
      1. tasha
        tasha 20 May 2018 05: 24
        0
        The usual branch of the bank is an additional office. Seven! I don’t know what they are doing there. There is definitely a head, some credit inspectors .. One - works with legal entities, one - deals with credit cards. And the rest, too, with important matters, probably ... laughing And there are still about a dozen women there, cashiers, consultants and some other ...

        Did I write somewhere that these are the guards? Guards to other places. And you know what? They do not want to dig and sweep and will not ... Once again I will give an example with the factory of my friend. They don’t want to go to the conveyor, where they pay more - but to the watchman it’s the turn ...
  7. bald
    bald 18 May 2018 06: 08
    +9
    Sorry - well, complete nonsense. I’m not about life examples, but about actions at the expense of getting out of the situation. And birth rate by nationality has each specific side. And specifically about our country - so these are the problems that arise at the birth of a child, it was so (not at all times and not in all places of residence). And if you dig deeper - then this is already a subconscious level. Need people? - so stimulate the birth of the child, and not abortion (not a ban), and take the unnecessary child for full support. The state cannot control the existing children - that’s why we are dead. And invite from the outside - so they already change the face of the state without it.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 May 2018 06: 20
      +1
      Quote: bald
      not a ban

      This is the same. For each abortion irreparably affects the reproductive function of women.
      1. bald
        bald 18 May 2018 06: 47
        +3
        Maybe so, only the prohibitions are tired. The question is, in what state is the normality of parents conceived (health). And the factor of secrecy of abortion also affects. There would be conditions for reproduction. And the south, rough may be an example, but fish and tosses a huge number of eggs due to natural selection.
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 20 May 2018 00: 22
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: bald
        not a ban
        This is the same. For each abortion irreparably affects the reproductive function of women.

        Ha! Igor! So what's up? Live, men, with a woman so that she does not become pregnant again because of you and therefore does not run for an abortion! And then many of you during sex only selfishly about your male pleasure and think and at the same time they didn’t care about your partner!
        Men lack a gender culture!
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 May 2018 08: 26
          +8
          Madame, you already decide either you:
          Quote: Tatiana
          Men lack a gender culture!

          or
          Quote: Tatiana
          As a result, we now have that the West, in the decomposition of its own morality, has moved even further than it was then. Namely, in the West, not only prostitution, as such, is already legalized, but homosexuality, lesbianism (even in Christianity bisexual marriages are registered in churches), pedophilia, bestiality, etc.

          There can be no “Gender Culture” without the legalization of prostitution (no one can succeed in banning it anyway. It’s better to manage it), homosexuality, lesbianism, (of course you got excited about pedophilia and bestiality - this is their criminality).

          The article is minus both for inaccurate numbers and for a false promise. negative Give them the bab and then the demography will be restored. How simple it all turns out. English-language advertisements with "Russian wives" flooded the Internet, and they were going to take other women’s. In your opinion, a lady from Muslim Central Asia will assimilate and become Russian? Offer to open the Chinese border as well.

          The collapse of the Roman Empire in connection with lead pipes was simply amusing.

          Family demographics and the state can only slightly help in this. And money is not the most important thing. There’s a social network in Scandinavia, but they don’t breed. For no money. Family values ​​need to be restored.

          Those who are interested in demography who are able to read many letters here:
          https://hazazello.livejournal.com/2409.html
          https://hazazello.livejournal.com/2620.html
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 20 May 2018 14: 32
            0
            Quote: Professor
            There can be no “Gender Culture” without the legalization of prostitution (no one can succeed in banning it anyway. It’s better to manage it), homosexuality, lesbianism, (of course you got excited about pedophilia and bestiality - this is their criminality).

            Oleg! Well, you compared the characteristics of the physiological intercourse of gender spouses during normal sexual intercourse, about which I spoke separately about demography, with the general sexual decomposition of the Western liberal-totalitarian society.

            And bestiality in the West still exists under the guise of extreme "zoo" -tourism in some zoo farms in some European countries.
            For example. European bestial zoophiles rushed to visit the loyal Danes.
            The public is thrilled: Denmark is at the center of international zoosexturism.

            European bestial zoophiles rushed to visit the loyal Danes. Published: 14 Oct. 2014
            1. Professor
              Professor 20 May 2018 17: 07
              +5
              Quote: Tatiana
              Oleg! Well, you compared the characteristics of the physiological intercourse of gender spouses during normal sexual intercourse, about which I spoke separately about demography, with the general sexual decomposition of the Western liberal-totalitarian society.

              Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner. Sexual orientation in Europe and in Russia are exactly the same. It’s just that they do it openly, but you have it secretly.
              Do you want your birth rate to increase? Do not limit others to sexual orientation if this is done:
              a) by mutual agreement
              b) between adults

              The rest is none of your business.

              Quote: Tatiana
              And bestiality in the West still exists under the guise of extreme "zoo" -tourism in some zoo farms in some European countries.

              Is it only in the West? We have goats Arabs fuck (sorry for the intimate details). However, your statement "Namely, in the West is now legalized ... pedophilia, bestiality, etc." falsely. There is no such LEGALIZATIONS. You will laugh, but bestiality is not prohibited in Russia either. There is no such article of the Criminal Code. And in most countries of Europe, bestiality is prohibited. There for this article. Gap template. fellow
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 20 May 2018 22: 10
                0
                Yes, Oleg!
                A man like you, with his "masculinity" will never understand a woman - especially in Israel! This is the first.
                Second.
                Quote: Professor
                However, your statement "Namely, in the West is now legalized ... pedophilia, bestiality, etc." falsely. There is no such LEGALIZATION.

                But, for example, in the UK there is a persistent corruption connivance to pedophids of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in particular when May herself headed it. And this says a lot that practice in the West will be perfect in the West departing from the Criminal Code and the punishment provided for it.
                scandal, which is now intensely hidden from the eyes of ordinary Englishmen. In the British city of Telford, a network of pedophiles was discovered, the victims of which were more than a thousand children. She committed crimes for decades, from the end of the 80 of the last century, but she was systematically ignored by both local authorities and the British police. Given the fact that the organizers of the crimes, according to preliminary information, come from the "South Asian countries" and migrants in the first, second or third generation, the scandal immediately acquired an appropriate political connotation, especially since this is the second pedophile network of this kind disclosed for last years. Western media have actively hinted that the Telford pedophiles have been able to go unpunished for decades simply because officials and law enforcement officials were afraid to investigate the case because of possible charges of "racism" and "xenophobia."
                See - https://ria.ru/analytics/20180314/1516309854.html
                ? utm_source = smi2obmen & utm_medium = banner & u
                tm_campaign = rian_partners

                Professor (Oleg Sokolov)
                You will laugh, but bestiality is not prohibited in Russia either. There is no such article of the Criminal Code.
                Something I have not heard about the abuse of bestiality in Russia. They write about everything, but not about bestiality. These things - with pathological sexual deviations - are treated by sexopathologists in the appropriate medical institutions. By the way, I note that children from bestiality also do not happen if you are in favor of raising the birth rate.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 21 May 2018 08: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  A man like you, with his "masculinity" will never understand a woman - especially in Israel! This is the first.

                  Wife, daughters and boss do not complain much about my misunderstanding. In general, you are right. Who will understand you, beloved women? love

                  Quote: Tatiana
                  But, for example, in the UK there is a persistent corruption connivance to pedophids of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in particular when May herself headed it. And this says a lot that practice in the West will be perfect in the West departing from the Criminal Code and the punishment provided for it.

                  Why are you going into the jungle?
                  1. There is no legalization of bestiality and pedophilia in the West.
                  2. And you have powerful pedophiles, not everyone is in prison. I hope you do not try to announce the list. You read about them yourself.

                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Something I have not heard about the abuse of bestiality in Russia. They write about everything, but not about bestiality.

                  If you have not heard this does not mean that this is not. The number of perverts in the world is approximately the same in percentage terms in all countries of the world. By the way, if you google it and about bestiality you will find articles in your newspapers. Hello to Alexei Panin and his dog.

                  However, we were distracted.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 21 May 2018 14: 58
                    0
                    Hello to Alexei Panin and his dog.
                    I have not heard, but I admit. But why talk about Panin, if he is not in power and a drunken drunk who has repeatedly been under investigation and in a psychiatric hospital ?!
                    And if we talk about artists, then Jean Marais, too, from a young age and for life, with his great director was a “blue” couple.
                    And in Soviet times, many so-called "human rights activists" were sitting in psychiatric facilities for such cases and were under the control of the KGB. Read Grigory Klimov.
                2. Hottabych
                  Hottabych 21 May 2018 23: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  A man like you, with his "masculinity" will never understand a woman - especially in Israel!

                  Why are you so, Tatyana! Professors are vulnerable individuals ...
                  And given
                  what our professor has wink
                  Quote: Professor
                  the boss does not complain much about my misunderstanding. In general, you are right

                  Head - Professor lol., then much becomes clear.
                  She screams, apparently, great ... recourse
                  But, I think, the Professor is doing science and listening with his mouth open, so that the pressure on the eardrum on both sides is the same! wassat
              2. Pollux
                Pollux 24 May 2018 17: 36
                0
                Quote: Professor
                You will laugh, but bestiality is not prohibited in Russia either. There is no such article of the Criminal Code. And in most countries of Europe, bestiality is prohibited.

                First of all, those crimes that are widespread prohibit the fact that in Russia there is no article against bestiality means that we simply do not have such a problem.
        2. Oleko
          Oleko 26 May 2018 22: 10
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          Ha! Igor! So what's up? Live, men, with a woman so that she does not become pregnant again because of you and therefore does not run for an abortion! And then many of you during sex only selfishly about your male pleasure and think, and at the same time you didn’t care about your partner! Men don’t have enough gender culture

          This is Tantrism, Tatyana, of the "purest water." Ejaculation management is a complex art. It has been mastered for decades. I’m telling you how the former “quick-shot”, which the unsatisfied first wife was tearing with her nails. He mastered one "simple" exercise, after which women became satisfied as much as they wanted in time. Stopped being a little sparrow.
  8. apro
    apro 18 May 2018 06: 35
    +11
    The article is nonsense. Why are migrants in Russia? The answer is one so that there are no Russians. Various tricks and demogogy. If they do not want to establish life for the local. Migrants will establish their own. And it will not necessarily be called Russia.
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 18 May 2018 08: 36
      +12
      Migrants fill only the vacuum that has formed. And he was formed in the wake of that licentiousness, the “sexual revolution”, “Coca-Cola and rock and roll”, which went to 90 and still drowns the population of Russia. Look what young people are listening to, what they are watching, what they are dreaming of. The upbringing of young people is spoiled, which can be discussed as a solution to the demographic crisis, when young people think only about cool cars, dough, chicks in the sauna, parties in nightclubs, chump and party.
      I share my opinion, the basis for which I consider the fact of childbearing in the countries of Central Asia:
      1. In Russia, a strong love for the homeland. But also need to be strong love for the Family (seven I). And the family should also mean older parents, for the rest of their lives, i.e. you don’t need to immediately tear off the young ones from yourself: buy an apartment yourself, bring up the children yourself, learn how to live yourself, you are now a separate family. And then suffer alone. In Central Asia, parents always remain the main members of the family. If there are several sons, then after the wedding, more often before the birth of the 2 child, they live with their parents, and the youngest lives with their parents until the end of their lives. Those. parents are a cement that unites the concept of family, they share their experience, reconcile at moments of quarrel, nurse grandchildren and help in education. This helps to not be afraid of responsibility among the newlyweds.
      2. In Central Asia, young people are instilled from birth that they need to take care and love their parents and take care of them in old age. This is a taboo and the truth is hidden here: if you care about your parents, then your children will care about you in old age. We have a saying: "the bird does what it saw in the nest of its parents." And then it turns out that children are the best contribution to life, more expensive than any check in the bank.
      3. Selfishness destroys everything - I want to live for myself, for my pleasure. Guys - I’ll get married, I will have to be faithful, I won’t be able to walk on “heifers”, my mother-in-law will get a bitch, my wife will cut all the time and so on. For girls, I’ll marry, socks, plates, my mother-in-law is harmful, I will turn into ugly face, everything will hang down and so on and so forth. Here is such a program is laid in advance, often playing out of place with various gum shows, KVN, dumplings, clips, etc. And thank God that nature takes up and yet somehow falls in love and creates families. But then what? Therefore, at first point 1, and then love, carrots.
      1. apro
        apro 18 May 2018 09: 17
        +15
        Migrants go to Russia because the authorities allow them. They solve their problems to the detriment of the Russians. You are respected and described everything in such a colorful way. But the question arises: why is such an allah-loving and law-abiding hard-working people in their homeland not building a bright future? And why didn’t these territories bloom after the expulsion of the godless bolsheviks?
        1. Azim77
          Azim77 18 May 2018 10: 07
          +9
          Well, imagine a ban on entry. There were no more hands, no one to build, clean up the garbage, sweep the streets. Do you think then everyone will suddenly deliberately give birth to children? In the meantime, these working hands will grow up. How to live? And again, who now appreciates the work of a simple worker, i.e. who is ready to give birth not to ministers, not oligarchs, not bankers, but simple workers? The pursuit of a career, the lack of equality between professions (where are all professions important now, are all needed?), Hence the black envy and lack of prospects, or rather a false absence, can make a worker completely drunk and disappear as a class. And while you can’t bring up new Zhurbins, you have to invite strangers.
          Quote: apro
          doesn’t law-abiding hardworking people build a bright future in their homeland?

          Well, why, builds. Not everyone went to work in the Russian Federation. And by the way, in the USA, in Turkey, in Dubai, in Korea and in other countries where Yes need, also go to work. These are mainly young people. To get on their feet, help parents and then return to their homeland. There is nothing shameful in work. Mostly coming from villages (villages) and small towns. And that’s better than getting drunk or becoming a drug addict.
          Quote: apro
          and why didn’t these territories flourish after the expulsion of the godless, liquid Bolsheviks?

          Firstly, the countries of Central Asia did not vote for the collapse of the USSR (this is also a family), and secondly, the collapse of the USSR hit all of us from the former and not all countries of Central Asia have oil and gas reserves to heal. There are in Turkmenistan, therefore there are few Turkmen migrants, in Uzbekistan there are cotton, gold, gas, uranium, but the population is large, the broken connections have left many people without destiny. In Kazakhstan, a little better with this, because the population is not very large. There are few natural resources in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, the main wealth is hard work and land. And everything has its time, as they say, "there will be a peaceful sky, the rest will also be."
          1. apro
            apro 18 May 2018 10: 32
            +8
            For me personally, an example is Belarus. Russia is also the same problem, but it’s solved. And you don’t need to invite anyone.
            And as they say you are not welcome here.
            I just remember 90 00. many from Kazakhstan and to the south moved to Russia reviews are not flattering ...
            1. Alber
              Alber 18 May 2018 12: 14
              +2
              Quote: apro
              For me personally, an example is Belarus. Russia is also the same problem, but it’s solved. And you don’t need to invite anyone.
              And as they say you are not welcome here.

              In Belarus, the head of a decent, Soviet hardening. Slav, and cunning Jews does not allow to plunder the country. Preserved industry in which there are enough jobs. Therefore, migrants are useless there.
              And Zionism has taken over everything from us! From the word at all. Industry destroyed and plundered. The Russian people are pushed away from the controls, unfairly slandered, robbed to the skin. The people have nothing, from the word at all. Resources from usurers.
              1. Departure
                Departure 18 May 2018 16: 20
                +7
                It was not Zionism that seized power, but thieves. This is a multinational Codla, everyone is represented there.
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 22
        +6
        I’m looking at “youth” (I’m a dozen younger) - this is my third child, an apartment in a mortgage, because of “I was short of it due to the crisis and a decrease in social programs,” I decided to open a small business good
        Someone has two, the old (like me repeat ) the same second for 3 dozen "molested" laughing good .
        And there are those who just drank themselves up or fussed, excuse me, but really everyone decides for himself. And you know the money is NOT the main thing, don’t believe it — Prokhorov, Mikhail Dmitrievich (who trampled from the courchevel) 2013 billion dollars worth of money in 13, children - 0, NOOOL !!! belay So, dough for the division of descendants, and at will - not one, and not young tea in 1965. So - who wants to give birth and provides, and who does not want to - something prevents it.
        1. tasha
          tasha 18 May 2018 11: 14
          +3
          and whoever doesn’t want something to interfere.

          Your truth. About ten years ago, my friends thought, thought, not to give birth to the second. I tell them: “Your first one will ask why I don’t have a brother-in-law, what do you tell him - we thought it would be difficult ... There is housing, there are grandparents ...”. Born, raised ... laughing
        2. Pollux
          Pollux 24 May 2018 17: 41
          0
          Quote: Mih1974
          So - who wants to give birth and provides, and who does not want to - something prevents it.

          The only way out is to tie the pension to the number of children. No children - no pensions!
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 18 May 2018 06: 36
    +17
    In the Empire at the beginning of the twentieth century, there were 128 million and the state was much larger. Now 146 million, Russia - "dried up" by the territory. There are no big problems with the population. There is a problem of people with a salary level, legality, health. The solution is simple - completely CLOSE the border for migrant workers and merchants. And then in the textbooks of “free and independent” they will write that the “evil” Russia for centuries pumped out human resources and did not allow the “republics” to develop ... The problem of “underpopulation” is from “business”, which benefits from a faceless, multinational, submissive labor mass with cheap pay. When s / pl will be, as in half of Belgium, women of "reproductive age and desire" will also appear.
    1. tasha
      tasha 18 May 2018 06: 48
      +3
      The problem of "underpopulation" is from "business"

      The more consumers, the greater the profit actually ... Such is the law of capitalism ... wink
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 May 2018 07: 04
        +3
        When s / pl will be, as in half of Belgium, women of "reproductive age and desire" will also appear.

        And by the way, pay attention to the demographics of wealthy Europe ..
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 23
        +2
        Nigeria and Niger Local tell)) laughing
    2. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 18 May 2018 09: 19
      +10
      Quote: samarin1969
      The solution is simple - completely CLOSE the border for migrant workers and merchants.

      Can be made even simpler, as in Japan, - the employer must pay a foreign worker about a third more than a Japanese worker. So there it is simply not profitable to hire foreigners to replace local workers.
      1. Antares
        Antares 19 May 2018 12: 09
        0
        Quote: Rakti-Kali
        in Japan, the employer must pay a foreign worker

        Yes, they have huge problems with the aging of the nation (albeit there is a mono-98%) Now there is a relaxation of the IT people and other "locomotives" of industry. But still they go less (just because of cultural and legislative difficulties) \
        Japan just "imported" fertile women of Korea and China (though by force)
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 May 2018 06: 49
    +15
    that being Russian is prestigious!
    Perfectly. But only a person from the same Central Asia will not become Russian, but only a citizen of Russia. I am the same age as the author and will give my example about the soldiers. He began his service as a young lieutenant in Guards. Motorized Rifle Regiment. In those days, recruitment into the infantry was carried out on a residual basis, because the first selection went to the missile troops, air defense, navy, airborne forces. Therefore, up to 50% of the fighters were called up from the republics of Central Asia. The executives rarely violated discipline, but what he had "in the bosom" even then did not quite understand, and this was the time of the USSR. Today, when they were born in another country, brought up in a completely different spirit, and as a rule they consider themselves true Muslims to figure out how the experiment on
    And in the end ... in the end, we will have more people and children, as well as workers, and soldier,
    not difficult.
  11. Alex66
    Alex66 18 May 2018 07: 46
    +14
    Whatever a woman gives birth to, she should not work, build a career, for a maximum of 4 hours a day, otherwise she cannot keep track of children and the household. Yes, and you need to educate you to prepare for the role of a mother from childhood, at school to teach all the necessary skills how to monitor their health, children to and husband (men do not tolerate hospitals). And the husband should work in and the state should provide him with a high salary on which his family lives. And migrants do not allow them to grow, creating unemployment, and it allows you to pay a penny for work, for migrants it’s normal money, and we can’t support a family for them, so our women are forced to work.
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  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 May 2018 07: 50
    +19
    The author is ten years behind. Now, not only wipers. Police officers, doctors, office workers, these are also residents from the south. And if in the Union, people just moved from place to place. now they are temporary, they will not study our habits, our holidays, our traditions. And when there will be a lot of them, there will be an activist who will bring a match. and then again, as in the late 80s, they will begin to kill, to rob, to force Russians, only on our land.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 18 May 2018 10: 30
      +8
      Believe me - there is nothing worse than the Russian taken out of "peace of mind" !! belay We can bury it “figuratively” with our bare hands below the fascist’s ground level with a tank. And umm, precedents when "the Russians lost their temper put in place the presumptuous non-Russians" or became jokes (if there were no mountains of corpses) or in horror stories. I want to remind only the public Kondopoga - when the "immortal Chechens" instantly "evaporated" from the city when the people RISED! And the more there are “those who are proud that he is not Russian”, the more terrible and bloody there will be “putting things in order,” just believe me — they very very correctly compare Russians with a Bear, like a “harmless bear” and suddenly, “God, where to hide from this the monster that we lured out of the den, ".
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 20 May 2018 04: 15
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      The author is ten years behind. Now, not only wipers. Police officers, doctors, office workers, these are also residents from the south. .......
      I agree, about the fact that the author is behind. Well, let's say it considers only its city and thinks that it is everywhere. I’m not talking about markets and which national cafes. There are a lot of migrant women in our city. In the grocery stores there are --- cleaners and often at the checkout. In a cafe like Tiny-POTATO ---- usually all the employees. In the cafe ---- more expensive, they are behind the scenes, Russians are in front of visitors. I doubt very much that these women will directly marry and remain here. Maybe if for their own ..... Maybe they go for a walk, but they won’t give birth. .... Maybe the families have arrived and want to gain a foothold, but this is not easy. Of course, it is easier if you purchased a property in the property. In fact, in the suburbs it is easier.
      There are also non-Russian babysitters in hospitals and they are happy and try for the sick. And the patients presenting with it are also fed by the staff in the hospital. Less commonly, nurses.
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 18 May 2018 08: 00
    +15
    What kind of migrants ... if according to official data of the same Tajikistan, the majority of children born ... to put it mildly stupid people ... and these are only those who were born there, and how much they gave Russia ... then what kind of gene pool we can talk about. Most drug addicts from elementary school, upon arrival in Russia ... leather becomes their second home. Studying with their children ... Russians are simply degrading, programs are beginning to adjust to newcomers.
  14. Witness
    Witness 18 May 2018 08: 28
    +16
    Or maybe it's time to give an opportunity to return to their historical homeland to all Russians remaining in the republics of the former Union? For example, I have 4 children ... I can still try)))). But the trouble is, Mother Russia does not want to accept me. Citizenship is not that .. You can’t officially get a job without this, you won’t get insurance, so you have to arrange your life away from your homeland, unfortunately ...
    1. Alecsandr
      Alecsandr 18 May 2018 09: 20
      +9
      That's it! You grasped the very essence of the problem. And all this is done on purpose. Russians abroad are not the same Russians. They already have a slightly different mentality and look like the first immigrants in America. They also mastered the territories from scratch and are used to be economically active. Therefore, they will not be at home in Russia, or they will begin to redo everything and disturb the local, hardened bosses. Here and obstacles are created so that they do not hurt to move. Moreover, it seems that they are not welcome in their historical homeland. Zhirinovsky is not once he spoke in his own right. It’s certainly easier to manage migrants and you need to pay less, and so on, but only one god knows what this policy will lead to.
      1. Witness
        Witness 18 May 2018 09: 28
        +12
        Believe me, I don’t need any help; I’ll organize everything myself, just give citizenship ... Thank God, hands grow from the right place!
        1. Alecsandr
          Alecsandr 18 May 2018 10: 34
          +3
          Let's hope that someday everything will fall into place. But it certainly won’t happen to the current government. They are far from the aspirations of the people and remember them only before promising what they promised. The elections are over, they forget about everything immediately the next day and the state cart continues roll along the same path bouncing on potholes and bumps. Probably the coachman is not the right one.
        2. Alber
          Alber 28 May 2018 13: 27
          +1
          Quote: Witness
          Believe me, I don’t need any help; I’ll organize everything myself, just give citizenship


          What Su ... is it slowing down? Write directly to Putin
          1. Witness
            Witness 29 May 2018 13: 28
            0
            Yeah ..))) and he will decide everything right away! )))))))))
    2. Alber
      Alber 18 May 2018 12: 28
      +7
      Quote: Witness
      . But the trouble is, Mother Russia does not want to accept me. Citizenship is not that .. You can’t officially get a job without this, you won’t get insurance, so you have to arrange your life away from your homeland, unfortunately ...

      But for this it is necessary to tear the mouth of bears, matvienki and other guarantors!
      The indigenous people should have the right to return home without any conditions !!
      1. Witness
        Witness 18 May 2018 12: 34
        +9
        You can’t imagine how many ordeals our friends (Russians) had to go from Azerbaijan to move to Russia! Up to the "customs clearance" of the container, with their frail belongings. The owner of the family, when he heard the amount from the customs officer, simply waved his hand and said: on ... I need it, take it for yourself, for this amount I will buy all the new furniture for myself. 5 years waiting for citizenship!
  15. slavaseven
    slavaseven 18 May 2018 08: 32
    +11
    Conceive a child is not difficult. The problem is to educate him and provide at least the necessary. And if the average family can “raise” one child, then two are more difficult, three - they don’t even think about it. Of course, alcoholics and drug addicts breed, but this is a completely different gene pool and social layer. Children, now, are very dear in every sense of the word.
    1. Pollux
      Pollux 24 May 2018 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: slavaseven
      Children, now, are very dear in every sense of the word.

      It’s not so, it’s not expensive to provide children, Especially from the first there are all kinds of strollers, cribs, child seats and so on. Children do not allow egoists to live "for themselves." Do not give birth? Your right! Your nation will die out - your choice. To deprive all childless of pensions.
      1. Alber
        Alber 28 May 2018 13: 30
        +1
        Quote: Pollux
        Quote: slavaseven
        Children, now, are very dear in every sense of the word.

        It’s not so, it’s not expensive to provide children, Especially from the first there are all kinds of strollers, cribs, child seats and so on. Children do not allow egoists to live "for themselves." Do not give birth? Your right! Your nation will die out - your choice. To deprive all childless of pensions.

        For children you can always find the most necessary. ..
        Children must be a priority.
  16. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 09: 13
    +7
    In the article, let the author excuse me, rainbow dreams and pink snot. And the reality is that our "people's" Government insists on raising the retirement age.
  17. Altona
    Altona 18 May 2018 09: 14
    +4
    Quote: slavaseven
    Conceive a child is not difficult. The problem is to educate him and provide at least the necessary. And if the average family can “raise” one child, then two are more difficult, three - they don’t even think about it.

    ---------------------------
    The government does not give a damn about it, despite at least some social programs.
    1. slavaseven
      slavaseven 18 May 2018 11: 13
      +3
      I agree with you, not 100%. For example, maternity capital - yes, small, but at least some help. In the mid 90s, even this was not. Many twisted around the temple, seeing pregnant. Like where, by yourself there is nothing to eat, the country's economy is seams, but they breed? (this is a real conversation of the time) And now this is the generation, which are few, you must force to give birth, help. So ... everything is relative. More substantial solutions are needed to increase demographics.
    2. free
      free 18 May 2018 11: 53
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: slavaseven
      Conceive a child is not difficult. The problem is to educate him and provide at least the necessary. And if the average family can “raise” one child, then two are more difficult, three - they don’t even think about it.

      ---------------------------
      The government does not give a damn about it, despite at least some social programs.

      The state / power goes out of its way to pretend to be the Motherland. That's just bad at it.
      1. slavaseven
        slavaseven 18 May 2018 13: 05
        +2
        Bitter truth!
        1. free
          free 18 May 2018 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: slavaseven
          Bitter truth!

          Nobody except us!
  18. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 18 May 2018 11: 23
    +4
    All empires roll up which the British, Russian or Austrian broke up
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 19 May 2018 08: 22
      0
      Not empires roll up too, this is not an argument
    2. Pollux
      Pollux 24 May 2018 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: Yodzakura
      All empires roll up which the British, Russian or Austrian broke up

      Yes, where do you get this crap? The British Empire was "rolled up" against its will. As well as the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish and any other empire! Themselves "rolled" only the mythical, invented empires of the ancient world.
    3. Alber
      Alber 28 May 2018 13: 34
      0
      Quote: Yodzakura
      All empires roll up which the British, Russian or Austrian broke up


      And your tribe has zealously succeeded in this. You are very actively balamuil people, arranged conflicts and provocations, made a fire!
      And after the “fire”, they helpfully added fuel to the gasoline ...
  19. Sam_gosling
    Sam_gosling 18 May 2018 11: 47
    +4
    I do not see anything wrong with migration from Central Asia. At the beginning of the 00s, Tajik men came to earn extra money on a large construction site in an ordinary soviet sleeping bag near the large industrial zone of the county town N. When the project was completed, many remained in the same place, married Russian ladies, bred children and settled in the city. But the funniest thing happened later. Tajiks first hit small businesses, and then they did not go into religion, and they opened a mosque where they held sermons for the local population and at the same time distributed food to the poor. By 2018, from a depressive area with bursts of droppers and bouts of bruises every evening, the area is turning into a quiet, relaxing sleeping bag. This is what life-giving Islam does. Unfortunately in Russia, the attitude towards Islam is more than skeptical.
  20. naidas
    naidas 18 May 2018 11: 57
    0
    At the entrance to the 70-80s, we had 7 children, 5 floors, I gathered decently from 3 porches, and made excursions to neighboring areas with neighboring houses, and sometimes we received guests from other areas.
    In 2006, on a playground between two houses (5 and 9 floors), he counted -51 teenagers. Now there is emptiness -I will assume all the houses are on a mouse
  21. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 18 May 2018 12: 45
    +7
    Quote: urman
    When I write Russian, I mean those Kirghiz who studied with me

    naivety itself ... My dear man, I’ll tell you a story bitterly told by my classmate back in the 80s:
    He studied in Moscow at the university for one course ... I will call him Tolik. In fact, his name was Talgatbek. Which republic? Naturally from the south ... isn't it visible by the notch?
    So this Tolik - spoke Russian m ... m .. it doesn’t matter, he studied ... barely .. if you didn’t say that he didn’t have any difficulty in learning, but he acted according to the quota from the southern republic, so they simply did not dare to expel him , probably. In addition, I suspect that he was not of a worker-peasant origin. In short, the dunce was still one! Although in relations we were all equal - all Soviet people, all young and ardent friends.
    So, a year after graduation, I accidentally meet one of my classmates from Moscow. He worked in a design organization and traveled throughout the Union. Glad to each other, hugged .. questions: how are you? and how are you?
    And he told how recently he traveled to a southern republic to a large enterprise and saw our Tolik there ... to speak - Talgatbek. Our Muscovite was delighted, spread his arms - Tolik ... friend!
    In response, a former friend of Tolik besieged him: You do not compromise me! I'm a big man here ... Who are you?
    Our friendly Muscovite, almost with tears, told me: and we with this Tolik almost ate from one bowl ...
    So, dear man, not all RUSSIAN who study with you ... And that was in the distant Soviet times, and now .... now it is all the more wrong.
    1. kunstkammer
      kunstkammer 18 May 2018 13: 01
      +17
      And I also want to enlighten you, dear man ...
      When you eat with him from the same bowl and consider him also RUSSIAN .. he assentes you and, like a cat, purrs: correctly say, right ...
      But he himself believes that he eats from YOUR bowl ... Vanya, you are a fool ... And God forbid you look at his bowl! Then you are the aggressor, the occupier and humiliate national pride! Suitcase - Station - Russia!
      1. tasha
        tasha 18 May 2018 13: 42
        +3
        Directly on Astafyev, you did it.
        "There is alcohol - your friend and brother. No alcohol - the enemy!" wink
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 18 May 2018 14: 53
    0
    just nonsense ...
  23. akunin
    akunin 18 May 2018 16: 12
    +2
    have our women forgotten how to give birth? Matirinsky capital raised the birth rate - a fact. maybe it's time to forget about Syria, and remember about your people? to raise well-being, improve the quality of life? to solve medical problems in our children (otherwise we are collecting the whole world for surgery)? and introduce the death penalty for drug trafficking, do not use GMOs.
    the government needs a people, and what people it will be - do not care.
    1. free
      free 18 May 2018 17: 55
      +4
      Quote: akunin
      have our women forgotten how to give birth? Matirinsky capital raised the birth rate - a fact. maybe it's time to forget about Syria, and remember about your people? to raise well-being, improve the quality of life? to solve medical problems in our children (otherwise we are collecting the whole world for surgery)? and introduce the death penalty for drug trafficking, do not use GMOs.
      the government needs a people, and what kind of people it will be.

      Never will the bourgeoisie agree to an improvement in the standard of living of the workers, never! Because if you began to get more from you more opportunities appeared studying (not everyone will, but very many) along with everything else will cause an increase in the consciousness of the population! And the population realizes that the bourgeois they are robbed and live off due to this, that they (the workers) are the source of wealth, bourgeois, which means bourgeois death in their hands. The growth of consciousness of the population is inevitable when time and money appear even under capitalism. The bourgeois know this very well and try not to to allow the growth of consciousness and the unification of workers. It is from here the instigation of clericalism and mysticism, the collapse of education, pornography and other perversions in all media, clashes on ethnic and religious grounds, and so on.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 19 May 2018 08: 37
        +1
        I recall the late USSR. What was the consciousness of the masses there? They dumped the country, charged water, believed that foreign countries would help us, pulled Yeltsin's degenerate. I’m not talking about the elite, they have been blunting selfish interest. I'm talking about a simple layman. My purely personal opinion: the USSR formed an infantile idealist, easily manipulated. At the same time with a broad outlook.
        1. free
          free 19 May 2018 14: 25
          0
          Quote: Pissarro
          I recall the late USSR. What was the consciousness of the masses there? They dumped the country, charged water, believed that foreign countries would help us, pulled Yeltsin's degenerate. I’m not talking about the elite, they have been blunting selfish interest. I'm talking about a simple layman. My purely personal opinion: the USSR formed an infantile idealist, easily manipulated. At the same time with a broad outlook.

          It’s rightly noticed, but it wouldn’t have done such a thing in the Stalinist USSR, and why? And because consciousness always encourages the need for education, but not always technical education generates consciousness! We need to learn dialectical materialism, as a way of thinking and cognition .. In the late USSR people They moved away from the only true way of knowing reality / way of thinking, from dialectical materialism. All science is built on dialectical materialism. And in the late USSR slogans flourished, propaganda (often not corresponding to reality) is pure idealism. The campaign of modern Russia is also idealism only in form fideism. So yes, the easily manipulated idealist was formed, but at that time the USSR was already not the same.
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 19 May 2018 08: 33
      0
      Well-being negatively affects fertility. In poor countries there are a lot of children, in prosperous crisis.
      1. Antares
        Antares 19 May 2018 12: 15
        0
        Quote: Pissarro
        Well-being negatively affects fertility. In poor countries there are a lot of children, in prosperous crisis.

        not always. My country is not rich, but a negative growth. Aging of the nation (and migration) as typical of the richer. Moreover, the income is very small.
      2. akunin
        akunin 21 May 2018 07: 59
        0
        dear, simplify. where did I have children to work if I worked for 12 hours and my salary was delayed for six months? But there are plenty of people like me on the periphery. There are mechanisms for raising the birth rate, only Uzbeks and Tajiks are better - they multiply and are free.
  24. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 18 May 2018 16: 17
    +6
    Why were Japanese samurai unable to repel the expansion of European powers and the United States? Yes, simply because in the 250 years of their rule they simply degenerated.

    That is, the fact that the decline in the social status of the samurai began in the 18 century passed by the author of the article. Annoyingly.
    Т
    so that the reduction of the population of the USSR did not begin under Gorbachev, but almost shortly after the war. Moreover, one must think that something similar happened in other places. And the growth that took place in our country in those years was carried out at the expense of ... well, of course, at the expense of the peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia.

    Nonsense. They really were ahead of us in birth rates, but at the same time in the USSR the number of the “non-Asian” population was still growing, although not at the same pace as in Asia
    Then they sit quieter than water below the grass.

    The author, you are ... we already have half a country under ethnic groups, if that
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 May 2018 07: 31
      0
      There is a network in the network. It’s kind of like LIBERAL REPRESSION IN RUSSIA by academician Gundarov, doctor of medical sciences, professor. About demography, starting from perestroika. Like in the Russian Federation and in neighboring countries. Sad statistics.
  25. kalibr
    18 May 2018 16: 29
    +3
    Quote: Alecsandr
    Probably the coachman is not the right one.

    And who goes to choose them? People!
  26. AleBors
    AleBors 18 May 2018 16: 35
    +5
    "Russian houses" must be opened at home. So that they know their traditions, history. And then talk about the traditional large families of Russians. And to make sure that it was prestigious to have many children.
    And stupidly inviting women, alas, will lead to a change in the gene pool and external signs of the authenticity of the nation. What for?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 May 2018 02: 45
      0
      Quote: AleBors
      And to make sure that it was prestigious to have many children.
      And how to do it? lol
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 22 May 2018 10: 28
        0
        There is such a propaganda thing. I’m not a professional in it, but I suspect that such a task was not posed to them. That's why we live.
        1. would
          would 22 May 2018 14: 40
          +1
          Will this propaganda feed the children? Gather in school? Numerous tutors critical in the conditions of the destruction of our educational system will pay? Maybe he’ll buy an apartment?

          So, there is propaganda. I have heard more than once or twice how graduates of schools and lyceums are treated specifically on the topic of “being prestigious with many children,” but as soon as schoolchildren ask the question “What will we feed these children if we have nothing to do?” and "And where will we live with these children if I live with my parents and sister in Khrushchev’s kopeck piece, and a new apartment is incredibly expensive?" the propagandists somehow begin to carry a nonsense which boils down to "Once God sent the child, then he will send both money and an apartment." And you know ... "for some reason" this propaganda does not work.
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 22 May 2018 15: 01
            +1
            I don’t know where you heard about the processing of school graduates ... I. For some reason, I only hear and see the reverse processing. Some family planning centers are worth something.
            Further. What tutors are we talking about? Regarding the reflections, "where to live and what is" is utter nonsense. Now there is support for large families, and quite serious. And they are also going to school. I get 10000-13000 per student. This is in Moscow, really.
            I know what I'm talking about, at the very four, and all my friends are large. One thing is bad, support for this is carried out by soulless and incorrectly oriented people (about propaganda, by the way).
            I live with my parents and sister in Khrushchev kopeck piece, and a new apartment is incredibly expensive?

            Mat.capital to help you.

            Quote: rait
            feed children if they have nothing to eat

            Have you tried to work? Helps a lot. Just do not tryndet about the size of the salary, you will not die of hunger for sure.
            And besides this, there are free circles and sections.
            And if you follow your statements, then you don’t want to live.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 22 May 2018 15: 08
              +1
              Quote: AleBors
              Now there is support for large families, and quite serious. And they are also going to school. I get 10000-13000 per student. This is in Moscow, really.
              You would often leave from Moscow to Russia. There, you know, everything is slightly different. And city budgets are not rubbery, as in Moscow.
              Quote: AleBors
              Have you tried to work? Helps a lot. Just do not tryndet about the size of the salary, you will not die of hunger for sure.
              Well, yes, I agree. Perhaps you can’t die of starvation on average 30-40k. Itself. But you can’t feed the children anymore.
              Quote: AleBors
              Have you tried to work?
              Do you yourself work with whom? What is your monthly income for 4 children? Does your spouse work?
              1. AleBors
                AleBors 22 May 2018 15: 23
                0
                I am leaving, you can rest assured, and I am aware of what is happening in the country. But I do not think this is a decisive problem for not giving birth to children. If the state does not support much, then people simply help each other. This is a common practice in church parishes.
                .
                Quote: Greenwood
                Perhaps you can’t die of starvation on average 30-40k. Itself. But you can’t feed the children anymore.

                However, you have requests ... For my salary of 80000, we live for a month, do not starve. And the spouse at home does not work. We receive benefits and subsidies. And I will say more, we still go on vacation. The truth is not in Dominican Republic, but in Crimea or Karelia.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 23 May 2018 07: 41
                  0
                  Quote: AleBors
                  I'm leaving, you can have no doubt
                  Apparently to the country and back. lol
                  Quote: AleBors
                  On my salary of 80000, we live for a month, do not starve.
                  Cool. RFP 80k is extremely rare in the regions, while prices for utilities and products, for example, in our Far East are an order of magnitude higher than in Moscow.
                  Quote: AleBors
                  If the state does not support much, then people simply help each other.
                  What people? Who is helping? What are you talking about? In our country, wild capitalism, man to man is a wolf. Here, relatives sometimes get dogged, what kind of people are you talking about?
                  Quote: AleBors
                  This is a common practice in church parishes.
                  We have a secular secular state. What does the church have to do with it?
                  Quote: AleBors
                  However, you have requests ...
                  I live in the Far East. At sn below 30k you can not live here. I don’t speak about having children.
                  Quote: AleBors
                  We receive benefits and subsidies. And I will say more, we still go on vacation.
                  Please move from Moscow with all your big family to a thread in the Pskov or Ivanovo regions. Try to get a job in the specialty. Then you will rant about how you yourself have achieved everything and how well you live.

                  PS And yes, I never saw the answer to my question about the nature of your activity.
                  1. AleBors
                    AleBors 23 May 2018 09: 00
                    0
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    We have a secular secular state. What does the church have to do with it?

                    I don’t know. And we are uniting around the Church. Especially not hoping for a state. And we feel good, I don’t know about you.
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    Apparently to the country and back

                    There is a summer residence, from the aunt remained. By the way, also a good help. And where do I go, read above.
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    What people? Who is helping? What are you talking about? In our country, wild capitalism, man to man is a wolf. Here, relatives sometimes get dogged, what kind of people are you talking about?

                    About good people. I assure you, most of them, if they do not help you, maybe something is wrong with you? Especially in relation to people, "Man to man is a wolf"? This is the difference between us, you live in a secular state, I am in the Orthodox community of the parish.
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    I live in the Far East. At sn below 30k you can not live here. I don’t speak about having children.

                    And do not lead. In no case should you breed. crying
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    Please move from Moscow with all your big family to a thread in the Pskov or Ivanovo regions. Try to get a job in the specialty

                    I have many specialties. And I’m not lost anywhere. By the way, you will laugh, but in the Pskov region my relatives have settled for 2 years. And I often visit them. We develop ethnic tourism. A very promising direction. And do not live in poverty, I assure you. There are chic conditions for the development of poultry and meat and dairy farming. And we will develop this line, with God's help.
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    And yes, I never saw the answer to my question about the nature of your activity

                    Well, why do you need this? Ecclesiastes says: "Many knowledge, many sorrows."
                    Have a nice day! hi
                    1. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 23 May 2018 11: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: AleBors
                      And we are uniting around the Church.
                      Who are we"?
                      Quote: AleBors
                      Especially not hoping for a state.
                      Those. You acknowledge that you should not wait for help from the state and it does not fulfill its social obligations. Th and was required to prove
                      Quote: AleBors
                      There is a summer residence, from the aunt remained.
                      What other aunt? You have to buy your own. Ish, exploit the Soviet legacy.
                      Quote: AleBors
                      I am in the Orthodox community of the parish.

                      Quote: AleBors
                      And do not lead. In no case should you breed.
                      Rude is ugly. Especially a person from the Orthodox community. Strange moral standards there.
                      Quote: AleBors
                      I have many specialties.
                      ЗП too for many specialties you receive or all the same for one ?! laughing
                      Quote: AleBors
                      We develop ethnic tourism. A very promising direction.
                      Ah, I get it. "Want to make money, go to business" (c) No comment.
                      1. AleBors
                        AleBors 23 May 2018 12: 13
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                        1.We are Orthodox Christians. In his ward.
                        2. What have you proven and to whom? I don’t particularly expect anything from the state. They help, well, no, we will live by ourselves. The level of my claims to power is not too high. We will live and so. good
                        3. And what is bad about the inheritance? Do not envy. The plot is not at Rublevka at all. .And you have no relatives? Or do not communicate?
                        4. Where is rudeness? And where does the moral? What are you talking about? request
                        5. Already talked about a lot of knowledge. Count yours.
                        6. Want to live well-live (c) The rest is in the Commandments.
                        I assure you, money is not happiness. Although without them it’s more difficult ...
            2. would
              would 22 May 2018 15: 28
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              I don’t know where you heard about the treatment of school graduates ...


              Not "where," but "from whom." I heard this personally from students of those schools and lyceums. They specifically did a lesson specifically for this matter, in at least one case an official from United Russia came and tried to propagandize. It turned out understandably badly, schoolchildren can already do mathematics and social studies, especially in lyceums.

              Further. What tutors are we talking about? Regarding the reflections, "where to live and what is" is utter nonsense. Now there is support for large families, and quite serious. And they are also going to school. I get 10000-13000 per student. It's in Moscow, really.


              About those very tutors without whom it is often impossible to prepare for at least a normal university. And often the level of teaching in schools is such that without these tutors it is impossible to even master the subject at the school level. This, again, I know what I'm not talking about from third or second lips, but directly. Accordingly, if you want the children to receive a good specialty, do not enter any where and generally arrange their future, then be prepared to pay for tutors. Well, or be prepared for the fact that your children will join the ranks of "Tajiks", that is, low-skilled and low-paid workforce without a sustainable future after 35 years.

              All the same, you should sometimes go to Russia from Moscow.

              Mat.capital to help you.


              The size of the mat.capital for 2018 is 453. What kind of apartment are you offering to buy for the money, and where? Even with three children.

              Have you tried to work? Helps a lot. Just do not tryndet about the size of the salary, you will not die of hunger for sure.
              And besides this, there are free circles and sections.
              And if you follow your statements, then you don’t want to live.


              It's pretty funny to see a visionary like you. Let's calculate, the real average salary is about 20 thousand. Let it be 25. For these 25 you need to eat, dress, put aside for an apartment (well, you have to live somewhere), and this provided that you live with your parents. If you get married, then it will be necessary to rent an apartment. And How? How do you imagine that? Or will you continue to live with your parents, but with your wife? Because if you follow your fantasies, you can either really starve to death, or you won’t be able to buy an apartment without which there will be no large families.

              If you personally receive 300 or more thousand rubles a month in your Moscow, then you should still pay a visit to Russia and find out that this is a phenomenon here.

              Moreover, circles and sections are not clear. What will they feed the children? Will you dress? Will they give an apartment?

              And if you follow my statements, then unlike yours you can live yourself. Because if you listen to it, you will soon have to hang yourself from hopelessness and hopelessness where you took not only yourself and your wife, but also your newborn children.
              1. AleBors
                AleBors 22 May 2018 15: 38
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                Quote: rait
                will have to hang oneself from hopelessness and hopelessness

                Inform the place and time I will come to see.
                Quote: rait
                If you get married, then it will be necessary to rent an apartment.

                What for?
                Quote: rait
                What kind of apartment are you offering to buy for the money, and where?

                This is the size of the down payment.
                About the children and admission to the university. First, the university did not meet in a wedge light. The country needs skilled workers, and not just managers and lawyers with accountants. Secondly, my eldest daughter is studying at the Russian State Humanitarian University at the journal faculty and at the budget department, receiving an increased scholarship. And she entered there without tutors and blat.
                Quote: rait
                not anyhow where and generally arranged your future,
                What does this mean? Decrypt ...
                Quote: rait
                Because if you follow your fantasies, you can either really starve to death,

                This is not a fantasy, dear, I live that way. And I'm not starving. But I have a question, but do you have children? It does not seem to be, since the judgments you have strongly give away enemy propaganda.
                Something like this ...
                1. would
                  would 22 May 2018 15: 46
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                  What for?


                  And what do you suggest in a two-room Khrushchevka living with parents and a wife? Well, let's say ... let's say. Where are the children? Maybe you’ll now propose to live with the same children with three children, a wife and parents in the same Khrushchev?

                  This is the size of the down payment.
                  About the children and admission to the university. First, the university did not meet in a wedge light. The country needs skilled workers, and not just managers and lawyers with accountants. Secondly, my eldest daughter is studying at the Russian State Humanitarian University at the journal faculty and at the budget department, receiving an increased scholarship. And she entered there without tutors and blat.


                  What is the first installment if, with a salary of 25 thousand rubles, you won’t even get a mortgage in the regional center? At this time, you will still need to live with your wife and at least two children. That is, either parents or rent an apartment. Again the question: What money?

                  In order to become a skilled worker, again you need not only to finish 9th grade of the school with any certificate, but to graduate well in specialized subjects, and then be able to do the same according to these results ... well, let’s not go to a university (they’ll prepare on working specialties!), but in a good CPS. How will this be done by children who, through the efforts of our state, have not mastered the school curriculum? The answer is very simple - no way.

                  And here again I know what I'm talking about.

                  This is not a fantasy, dear, I live that way. And I'm not starving. But I have a question, but do you have children? It does not seem to be, since the judgments you have strongly give away enemy propaganda.


                  Let’s write it down: “Mathematics and economics of the school level are given away by enemy propaganda.” But it’s just that you almost certainly have neither children nor a wife, and you live with your parents and do not work anywhere because you do not understand the most basic foundations of independent life, which our dialogue and not only demonstrated. Especially epic phrase

                  But I do not think this is a decisive problem for not giving birth to children.


                  There’s nothing to comment on.
                  1. AleBors
                    AleBors 22 May 2018 15: 58
                    +1
                    The phrase is epic, I do not argue here. Write yourself somewhere, so as not to forget ... I do not consider it reasonable to continue the argument with you. Unproductive. I can only sympathize with you, as deprived of the joy of fatherhood. However, people like you should not multiply — this will only increase the number of idle talkers and loafers who do not want to do anything.
                    I wish you a speedy insight. Although ... People like you are also needed, against the background of you, people like me become brighter.
                    Good luck in the further nagging! I have the honor!
                    1. would
                      would 22 May 2018 16: 18
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                      I consider your message as revealing and symptomatic, not a single argument (as before) and an indicative transition to individuals with illogical insults and narcissism. This speaks for itself, and the rest will appreciate.
                      1. Pollux
                        Pollux 24 May 2018 18: 12
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                        Quote: rait
                        I consider your message as revealing and symptomatic, not a single argument (as before) and an indicative transition to individuals with illogical insults and narcissism. This speaks for itself, and the rest will appreciate.

                        The rest is on the side of Alexei.
                        How does our pension system work? She takes money from workers and gives them to pensioners. That is, you support your parents (generalized and average) and you will already be supported by your children. So why on earth did my children whom I raised put their souls into them, so why on earth should they contain extraneous uncles who did nothing for them? In fairness, there are no children - no pensions. If you do not have children, then you have done nothing for the country in your life.
  27. Yak28
    Yak28 18 May 2018 17: 45
    +8
    It’s enough to watch the Moscow crime news week to understand that migrants commit 80% of crimes in the city. Further, migrants reduce their salaries and are ready to work for relatively little money, which is good for an employer who, for lack of migrants, would have to pay normal amounts to the local population, migrants you don’t need a social package, you can dismiss them and recruit new ones. Migrants occupy places in hospitals, kindergartens, schools, and this is not good. And the worst thing is that if you lead the hordes of migrants, you can do quite a few things. their backward culture. Over the years, their number will increase, and they will want the same rights as the local population of a city. France and other European countries are a vivid example of the fact that you should not let different rabble into your home.
  28. Master
    Master 18 May 2018 17: 50
    +2
    Question to the author. How many migrants in Russia? I think so. about 10 million typed. And most of them are laborers. What will happen if there are none? Have you thought about this?) The demographic situation cannot be corrected by changing the policy regarding migrants. no benefits or fines will save. We must give birth to ourselves)
    1. Yak28
      Yak28 18 May 2018 18: 09
      +8
      Most of them are speculators-traders. And what happens if they don’t exist? Well, they weren’t in Moscow in the USSR, one woman was a janitor, where 10 Uzbeks are working now, in the winter they squeeze a square meter of ice together. Migrants are not irreplaceable or necessary, they are just convenient for the bosses and the employer.
      1. Master
        Master 18 May 2018 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: Yak28
        Most of them are speculators-traders. And what happens if they don’t exist? Well, they weren’t in Moscow in the USSR, one woman was a janitor, where 10 Uzbeks are working now, in the winter they squeeze a square meter of ice together. Migrants are not irreplaceable or necessary, they are just convenient for the bosses and the employer.

        Speculators? Well, let the indigenous people offer cheaper. Will they be able to? I don’t think so. That's it they are beneficial to the authorities. But you don’t think so. what prices will go up without migrants? You have a one-sided look.
    2. kalibr
      18 May 2018 19: 22
      0
      Do you care who paints your new building? Woman or man? Or trade in a stall?
    3. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 19 May 2018 08: 51
      +4
      Quote: Master
      Question to the author. How many migrants in Russia? I think so. about 10 million typed. And most of them are laborers. What will happen if there are none?

      If they are not there, salaries will increase and 10 million Russian people will finally get the opportunity to work.
      1. Master
        Master 20 May 2018 11: 55
        +1
        Quote: Rakti-Kali
        If they are not there, salaries will increase and 10 million Russian people will finally get the opportunity to work.

        Yeah, and prices will double. You as well as the author did not think about this? Do not be lazy to write an article. but sitting and thinking about it is too lazy.
        1. Rakti-kali
          Rakti-kali 20 May 2018 15: 29
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          Quote: Master
          Yeah, and prices will double. You as well as the author did not think about this?

          Prices over 10 years and so on 3-4 times increased. In Russia, prices are always rising, regardless of the income of the population, so your “ko-ko-ko” is past the cash register. But the fact that migrants bring down the level of salaries is a fact.
  29. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 18 May 2018 18: 36
    +8
    Uv.Avtor, I understood what you wanted to say, ideally this is good, but the realities are different. In the USA, they wanted the same thing you wrote about, but it turned out differently, blacks separately, white separately, Chinese, Italians, meks, Russians, all in their diasporas, the American boiler is not cooking, and it will not boil with us. With exotic arrivals can not boil, only Ukrainians, Belarusians, Moldavians, the rest will remain strangers, even those born here in the second generation.
  30. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 18 May 2018 19: 51
    +4
    I'm already used to the Uzbeks - hardworking, polite. Most Uzbek farmers are like us. It is more difficult to get along with nomads or residents of mountain villages. During the Great Patriotic War, many refugees of the USSR came to Uzbekistan. Now the Uzbeks have problems, and they come to us.
    I talked on the train with the Crimean Tatar, who had recently arrived from Uzbekistan. He explained to me that it was not the kishlak Uzbeks who went to work in Russia, but the inhabitants of large cities - Tashkent, Samarkand, Navai. Many of them have higher education.
    1. rinkur
      rinkur 20 May 2018 16: 33
      0
      And in Uzbekistan there are Russian-speaking youth who do not have secondary, special professional education, not through their own fault and initiative!
    2. rinkur
      rinkur 20 May 2018 16: 35
      0
      And Uzbeks in Russia receive school, secondary, and higher (bachelor's and master's degrees) and even defend their candidates, and their children go to Russian kindergartens!
  31. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 18 May 2018 20: 09
    +3
    The trend in the world is such that soon people will be replaced by robots. So, in the long run it is necessary not to increase, but to reduce the population. We just need male soldiers to confront NATO.
    A modern woman agrees to live only with the right men, who are a minority. Drunkards, rowdy, rapists they do not need. A woman herself will raise a child if there is a roof over her head and work. In the USSR, housing was first given to a single mother, and then to a valuable specialist.
    Women themselves decide from whom they should have children. Some create families with migrants, others just give birth from them. The Russian woman will stop the galloping horse, enter the burning hut. And he will be able to give birth and raise a child. It is better if the state helps her in this.
    1. rinkur
      rinkur 20 May 2018 18: 39
      +1
      (Some create families with migrants) Anecdote: ,, Dad, but the headquarters of Ransha Rasiya Ruski ZhyLa, Net Sinok Ete Skazke, ,, (Tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, good fellow lesson). Let Russian women create families with compatriots who are not given Russian citizenship!
      1. Pollux
        Pollux 24 May 2018 18: 17
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        Quote: rinkur
        Let Russian women create families with compatriots who are not given Russian citizenship!

        Be worthy - and the woman will choose you, what is the problem?
        1. rinkur
          rinkur 25 May 2018 00: 49
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          Where does dignity come from if Russian-speaking people in Uzbekistan do not even receive secondary vocational education?
  32. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 18 May 2018 21: 50
    +2
    Migrants should be divided into two categories:
    1. Highly educated specialists, prosperous and healthy people with an impeccable biography, mainly from culturally and ethnically close Russia, preferably Slavic and other European countries. Those whose joining the nation is desired.
    2. Others - hands that will do dangerous, dirty and prestigious work. Nobody wants to delve into the manure and does not want this for their children, so such classes should be left to representatives of this category.
    1. kipod
      kipod 20 May 2018 10: 10
      +1
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Migrants should be divided into two categories:
      1. Highly educated specialists, prosperous and healthy people with an impeccable biography, mainly from culturally and ethnically close Russia, preferably Slavic and other European countries. Those whose joining the nation is desired.
      2. Others - hands that will do dangerous, dirty and prestigious work. Nobody wants to delve into the manure and does not want this for their children, so such classes should be left to representatives of this category.


      py.sy wondering whether moderators will remove this frankly xenophobic post.
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 20 May 2018 19: 08
        +2
        But haven't the Jews created a xenophobic state, mainly for one nationality? Did the Jews consider the Arabs their equal?
  33. APASUS
    APASUS 19 May 2018 00: 50
    +3
    I never read to the end, I write what I think.
    I know those who work in Russia and their children don’t know their native language, maybe they know, but communication takes place in Russian. What is the problem? They are ready to be part of this society. But I know those
    anyone on the drum, we are only here for a while and what do we want to expect from these comrades?
    And when nationalities begin to integrate into society - we will get a real impetus. The Russian language is the basis of international exchange and we should never prohibit national culture, cuisine, traditions. There is only one disturbing fact. The state should not promote the development of districts on a national fact, as soon as the diaspora works for itself - that means the state has lost !!!
  34. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 19 May 2018 03: 29
    +12
    Yes, exactly! Migrants do not adopt and do not want (!) Our culture, way of life! They often behave arrogantly; a little something is “pumped up by rights” .. And despite the fact that Russians in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan often find themselves in the position of second-class citizens, their rights are violated, they are insulted ... I remember how in the beginning of the 90’s the “Turks” were yelling: "Russians, get out in your Raska!" (In Tajikistan, anti-Russian pogroms were carried out, even with the killings ....). The Russians .... left (who could), who died. The dream of the "Turks" (!) Came true: Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, without Russians (!). ... almost ... But then "suddenly" it turned out (!) that without the Russian "Turks" there was nothing to eat !!! And so, they rushed into the “damned” Russia, in case of “shaking rights” without a twinge of conscience!
  35. would
    would 19 May 2018 09: 15
    +3
    Why were Japanese samurai unable to repel the expansion of European powers and the United States? Yes, simply because in the 250 years of their rule they simply degenerated. And why? Yes, because Japanese women - wives and concubines of the samurai whitened the face and chest with white based on mercury. And babies licked mercury along with mother’s milk.


    You can not read further. Japanese samurai could not reflect the expansion of European powers due to self-isolationism and conservatism which led to a very strong lag in technology. When the samurai had only bows, yari, katana, nodati, etc. Europeans were already in full swing with arquebuses and artillery. Subsequently, for example, during the Bosin war, everything came to the conclusion that when the Europeans had linear infantry, there were already breech-loading rifles, Gatling machine guns, and so on. the samurai still had nodati, katanas, yari, and bows. And a little outdated teppo. The fact is incredibly famous and the later period is perfectly reflected in the famous film "The Last Samurai". At the same time, the Japanese army was defeated, albeit created by the Europeans, and not some European one.

    But the author is ignorant and does not even know such basics, but in all seriousness writes articles.
  36. rinkur
    rinkur 19 May 2018 09: 24
    +6
    Migrants will never become “Russians”, not their children, not their grandchildren even born of Russians. Let Russia give Citizenship to 6,2 Million Compatriots their children, their grandchildren. They really will be for Russia. This must be done urgently before it's too late!
    1. Shrekk
      Shrekk 19 May 2018 16: 49
      +3
      Is it really necessary to become "Russian"?
      My opinion is that it’s enough to become a Russian. The children of these same migrants speak Russian fluently, without accent, and write in Russian. Living in our society, they are assimilated under the Russian mentality. Their children will already think in Russian ... so, not everything is so scary.
      And compatriots, I completely agree with you, it is urgent to give citizenship of the Russian Federation.
      1. rinkur
        rinkur 19 May 2018 17: 09
        +2
        Regarding the Uzbek mentality, you are deeply mistaken, they have so many relatives, they will never forget their historic homeland
  37. Antares
    Antares 19 May 2018 11: 33
    +3
    And this misfortune with what happened to them? Yes, because the Romans liked the taste of wine, which was stored in lead vessels, the hair was of “metallic color” (and they dyed it, combing it with lead combs), and the water came into their houses through lead pipes.

    Well, yes ... All the Romans were noble and allowed themselves exclusively at home with expensive lead pipes and vessels? This version-that Rome ruined the lead (there is still an epidemic, prosperity / luxury, etc.) has long been refuted.
    All residents of the republic could not use quite expensive things. In addition, noble Romans were often traveling around the country, and there were no pipes made of lead, etc.
    Rome ruined the economy. And he died like an ordinary village empire. And then after more than 1000 years. So no one could start as a republic, die like an empire for such a long time. Civilization!
    It's all about the place of women in society, education, the economy! As soon as a woman gets all the opportunities that a man (education, law, a place in the economy) they play the role of "men" and "men do not give birth." No time and no desire. They are full consumers, they shape the modern economy with their fact of consumption and accordingly affect all processes. And at the moment they already have more rights than white men.
    Have and give birth to many children? This is hard work, a lot of time. A modern woman rarely does this. She has an education, career, personal life. She does not want, and does not want, and has all the rights to it. She is a free woman.
    The number of children in a family is always the prerogative of women. (I'm talking about whites)
    And the "barbarization" of Russia ... And the method is how to stop and lead .. If you do not have time to digest the barbarians in the smelter, then you risk losing the country. The country needs working hands (these are men's most often, women are advised to work in other places) for a variety of work, including skilled ones.
    And the author suggests importing women of childbearing age from Central Asia .... The idea itself can and does make sense (they have a more traditional view of the family and, therefore, can give birth more), but as a donor of the Russian Federation this will help little. Have all Slavs been imported at fertile age?
    In the USA, with a society of women’s consumption and employment, growth (and also migration) is still possible — they succeed! But this is in the USA ... they are crazy about work (they work the most and are proud of it)
  38. Volos
    Volos 19 May 2018 23: 06
    0
    even in the international army of the USSR, the majority of Asians served in the construction battalion, even then, with compulsory universal secondary education, it was an illiterate, poorly organized mass.
    Now it is necessary to recreate the shelves of the construction battalion for the construction of engineering infrastructure at both military and civilian facilities, to equip them from migrant workers and as a prerequisite to obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation, must be served for at least 5 years. Those who abandoned the service or ran away immediately deported.
    At least some benefit for the country will be from the multimillion-dollar crowd of migrants who settled down semi-legally in Russia. Most of the work that does not require high qualifications at the facilities of the Moscow Region should be carried out by the construction battles, which will significantly reduce their cost, during the construction and reconstruction of facilities this may amount to 50-70% of the total estimate.
    The use of such building bats is also necessary for the elimination of natural disasters, industrial accidents, the construction of federal roads and other infrastructure facilities.
  39. doka
    doka 19 May 2018 23: 31
    +2
    Under the USSR, the state took care of children since the crèche was free, Whoever wanted to have many children didn’t bother, I don’t understand why getting RUSSIAN citizenship is more difficult than any post-Soviet one, Germans are not shy about giving citizenship to Germans, Jews to all Jews, And Russian-speaking Slavs to their own within the Russian world no, no words, no mats,
  40. Towarish
    Towarish 20 May 2018 09: 42
    +1
    Hello. Tatars, Bashkirs, Chechens, Ingush, Jews, Nanai, Chukchi; the list is very long. These and other peoples did not become Russian in the entire history of the Russian state. They are Russians. Maybe it's time to accept other nations as they are?
    Endless shows, jokes about the stupidity of other nations are a sign of a complex of "exclusivity."
    Wake up, open your eyes. Drop the illusions. Even a Russian who came from neighboring countries is not easy to enter society. He remains chock for locals.
    What to say about the Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz.
    Racism is everywhere. On television, in newspapers, about the Internet I am generally silent.
  41. Towarish
    Towarish 20 May 2018 10: 04
    0
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    Migrants should be divided into two categories:
    1. Highly educated specialists, prosperous and healthy people with an impeccable biography, mainly from culturally and ethnically close Russia, preferably Slavic and other European countries. Those whose joining the nation is desired.
    2. Others - hands that will do dangerous, dirty and prestigious work. Nobody wants to delve into the manure and does not want this for their children, so such classes should be left to representatives of this category.

    Words of a true Aryan.
  42. Alex boyko
    Alex boyko 20 May 2018 18: 03
    +1
    the author has primitive thinking, he does not really understand anything. The second sad fate of the University of Penza, Like the city itself, as well as many so-called universities, may be because the correct name for such institutions is: Sharashkin office for issuing fake diplomas?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 May 2018 07: 20
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      I don’t know whether it’s worth saddening both about the fate of Penza University and the city itself. TOTALLY unexpectedly sent a tablet to the Penza newspaper to me. Until I read it, I just looked over. But, in my opinion, everything is right there. I’ll read it later.
  43. Des10
    Des10 20 May 2018 21: 06
    +1
    Yes, no one is against the so-called. "migrant workers" from the SA or Vietnam ... only the policy of the State is not clear and whether there is control, otherwise people are not being filled with Slavic appearance and - even now not with Russia - our cities and weights, but the government doesn’t care.
  44. kalibr
    21 May 2018 06: 11
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    Quote: Towarish
    Racism is everywhere. On television, in newspapers, about the Internet I am generally silent.

    This is the lot of the poor!
  45. kalibr
    21 May 2018 06: 13
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    Quote: Antares
    have long been denied.

    And who exactly, could you clarify?
  46. kalibr
    21 May 2018 06: 18
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    Quote: rait
    But the author is ignorant and does not even know such basics, but in all seriousness writes articles.

    You know, if something is not known to you, this does not mean that it is not, right? You, I see, are interested in the history of Japan ... Read the book "Samurai. The First Complete Encyclopedia" (received a grant from the Russian Humanitarian Science Foundation). There are a lot of interesting things written.
  47. kalibr
    21 May 2018 06: 22
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    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

    That is, the fact that the decline in the social status of the samurai began in the 18 century passed by the author of the article. Annoyingly.
    The book "Samurai. The first complete encyclopedia" read ...
  48. kalibr
    21 May 2018 06: 27
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    Quote: Reptiloid
    I agree, about the fact that the author is behind. Well, let's say it considers only its city and thinks that everywhere

    Dmitry, do not judge by yourself. This material is an extract from a number of articles from magazines that you have never read and will not read. You have no idea about the nature of the work of a professional journalist, and not just a journalist, right? I already wrote somewhere why my colleagues do not write here. But you read this, and you think, but are ... those who read your work worth it?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 May 2018 07: 02
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      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I agree, about the fact that the author is behind. Well, let's say it considers only its city and thinks that everywhere

      Dmitry, do not judge by yourself. Is this material an extract from a number of magazine articles that you have never read?
      Why should I judge by myself? I’m not an emigrant. I’m talking about what I see around, I forgot to say that in EURASIA and in expensive oriental restaurants, of course, girls of Asian appearance are probably more successful in life.
      I dare to hope that I am not the worst representative of readers whom you laughed at repeatedly. In any case, I am polite and do not use dissonant words. And after all, there are comments to all authors, and not just you ... As everyone knows, journalists get a good salary, and do not do charity work. Sincerely, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
  49. major147
    major147 22 May 2018 20: 52
    +1
    Here are the stages of the replacement of the indigenous population by migrants in the territory they seized:

    1. Penetration;

    2. Assimilation on the contrary;

    3. Contributions;

    4. Chaos;

    5. Bifurcation.

    At the first stage, the border opens - and under various good humanistic pretexts, a large number of completely disempowered foreign cultural migrants enter the country. The process looks spontaneous, but it is not. Migrants are encouraged to increase corporate profits, to undermine the labor market and social base of the indigenous population. No labor rights and trade unions are possible where, instead of a local worker with his social burden, you can take a disenfranchised Tajik, completely dependent on the will of the employer.

    At the second stage, the migration mass settles, under it legislation and pseudo-legal procedures are formed. Protesters against migrants are declared witches of the time of the Holy Inquisition. Migrant flows receive internal and external lobbyists, vertical and horizontal organizations. The development of territories and the delivery of families and children begins. The first public structures appear.

    The third stage. When a critical mass of settled migrants accumulate, organized and integrated into business and corruption processes, they are declared a desirable political or ethnic minority, requiring guardianship and support. Laws are adopted to accelerate their naturalization. Migrants are actively integrated into government agencies and law enforcement agencies. The hardworking, oppressed minority demands the indemnity of the defeated majority for their suffering and deprivation. Contributions in the form of money and political rights are issued at the expense of the local population.

    At the fourth stage, stronger minorities require the majority to reorganize state and cultural principles. Descendants of migrants form ethnic nuclei in the criminal, power and political environment. Massive and private clashes over minority power are taking place. They get their preferences and immunity. Most begin to break down in front of minorities and mimic them. The general cultural level, the level of science and the social environment are falling sharply. Migrants begin to dictate the principles of dormitory in the state.

    At the fifth stage, the state and society are completely reborn. Most are losing their cultural foundation, ethnically eroded. Migrants penetrate power, establish new orders. Indigenous people leave settled lands, change regions or country of residence. The state is completely degrading and is changing its civilizational model to what has been introduced from outside. The dictatorship of political radicals, fundamentalists and ethnic corporations is being established.

    Seems incredible? But to which of the stages indicated here?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 23 May 2018 18: 47
      +1
      Good informative commentary in good serious language. In Europe, this process is in full swing. Type ~~~~ indemnity ~~~~ chaos. Signs of both. But, I’ll re-read it. And about our country .... Everything seems to be normal in our city, but there were other messages from other places
  50. would
    would 24 May 2018 18: 18
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    Pollux,

    The rest of which are not? An interesting assumption. Of particular interest is the reference to the "authority of the crowd." If the crowd will repeat 2 + 2 = 5, then it turns out this is so? People are on the side! Well, then you show that you do not know how the pension system works and nothing more.