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Prospective Russian submarine "Husky" will take the price

An important advantage of the promising fifth-generation Russian nuclear submarines of the fifth generation of the Husky may be a relatively low cost, experts say. At the same time, the price of boats can compete with the technical characteristics of submarines for the title of the main advantage. Already, it has been suggested that new submarines will be significantly cheaper in cost than the Yasen-M project boats currently under construction. For the Navy, this is especially true, given the fact that in the composition fleet new submarines will have to replace all third-generation multipurpose boats, including project 949 Antei submarines (a “city” series of boats, namely the tragically lost submarine K-141 Kursk) and project 971 Schuka-B, which are quite numerous.

Information about the boats of the Husky project is currently extremely limited. It is known that the draft multipurpose nuclear submarine with cruise missiles (PLARK) 5-generation engaged in SPMBM "Malachite", information about it first appeared in the Russian media in December 2014 years. At the same time, it was reported that the development of a new submarine is being carried out on its own initiative, without a technical task from the Russian Defense Ministry. July 17 2015, the Russian media was told that the new boat designed by designers of "Malachite" on the same base platform, but in two versions: a multi-purpose submarines, focused on the fight against the enemy submarines and PLARK focused on the fight against enemy aircraft carriers.

8 August 2016, there was information that between the Ministry of Defense of Russia and SPMBM "Malachite" was contracted to develop a promising submarine. Apparently, we are talking about research work to develop the appearance of a future nuclear submarine, and the technical design of the submarine will begin only after 2020 year. Experts believe that the anti-version of "Husky" were armed with "Caliber" anti-submarine missiles, this boat in the first place, will be intended for the destruction of strategic submarines potential enemy (submarines "Ohio" and "Vanguard"). The second option will receive anti-submarine hypersonic cruise missiles "Zircon" and is designed to destroy large enemy surface ships (aircraft carriers, UDC, landing craft, missile cruisers, destroyers, and others.).

Multipurpose submarine project 885 "Ash"

The lack of information about the boats of the Husky project is currently not surprising, given the fact that research on the project is still underway and even the appearance of the future submarine has not been fully determined. The boat exists only in the form of sketches and renders, but some of its features are already little known. For example, it has already been reported that the Husky submarines will receive a double-hulled structure, the submarine displacement will be about 12 thousand tons (Yenya has 13 800 tons). In size, the promising boat will be smaller than the Yasen-M generation submarines of the 4 generation being built today.

Submarine 5-th generation will have even less noise than fourth-generation boats, which include multi-purpose submarines "Ash" and "Ash-M." The hull of the boats will be built using modern composite materials. Multi-layered boat designs will have to reduce reflections of enemy sonar signals and help reduce the weight of the submarine. Most likely, all boats will receive new means of communication, they can be integrated into a single network. Along with the Yasen / Yasen-M submarines, the new Huskies will become the main means of the Russian fleet in countering the American Airborne Assault Groups (AUG).

It is expected that research and development work on the project can be completed by the end of 2018. By this time, a preliminary design will be completed, after which the boat developers will be able to proceed to the technical design. Previously RIA News referring to the deputy commander-in-chief of the Navy for armaments, Vice Admiral Viktor Barsuk, reported that the laying of the first multi-purpose submarines of the new generation (the Husky project) could take place in the final part of the adopted State Armaments Program for the 2018-2025 period. Viktor Barsuk called the indicative date for laying a promising submarine - 2023-2024 years. He made the corresponding statement in Severodvinsk at the end of July 2017, where he flew to the groundbreaking ceremony of the new Ulyanovsk nuclear-powered icebreaker.

The main factor in increasing the combat effectiveness of the Husky submarines is that they are equipped with a new missile system with a hypersonic Zircon cruise missile 3М22. This complex was successfully tested in the 2017 year, during which the rocket reached speeds up to 8 Mach. Missiles that move at a speed that is very difficult to monitor and intercept, respectively, as it has time to come to the target since its radar detection. At the same time, it is three times faster than the previous generation anti-ship missiles. For example, the P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles or the Onyx P-800 anti-ship missiles could reach speed in Mach 2,5. It is also reported that the submarines of the project "Huskies" will be able to carry cruise missiles "Caliber", the effectiveness and combat capabilities of which were tested and confirmed in an armed conflict in Syria.

Recently rented by the Malachite design office renders allow judging how these solutions will be implemented in the design of the new submarine. The presented photographic materials show launchers located in the middle and fore part of the boat. In particular, 8 visible open covers in the middle part of the submarine hull. According to experts, the 40-48 missiles will be located here, since the analogous design of launch containers on the Yasen multi-purpose submarines accommodates 4 to 5 missiles depending on their type.

Another shock opportunity for new submarines can be the use of various unmanned submersibles. Some sources even reported that the Husky submarines would carry the 6 Status torpedo. And Oleg Vlasov, who is the head of the Malachite robotics department, said that the new boats will be integrated with systems operating in the airspace, that is, the submarines will be able to launch UAVs for reconnaissance and search for targets. It is also believed that the torpedo tubes on the forward-looking boat will be located in the middle part of the body, as it has done on submarines project 885 «Ash", while in the bow will be located various sonar equipment and launchers for cruise missiles.

Possible appearance of promising multi-purpose submarines of the Husky project

Also in the Russian media is widely noted incredibly low acoustic visibility of future boats, the design of which will be widely used composite materials. In addition to this, it is assumed that the newest technologies will be introduced on the “Husky” boats, aimed at reducing acoustic visibility and noise. According to Viktor Barsuk, the new submarines are expected to be twice as quiet as the boats of the previous generation.

For some, the appearance of the new submarines of the Husky project may seem superfluous, since the construction of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the Ash project has been launched in the country, but the progress and development of technologies are not standing still. The addition of hypersonic cruise missiles to the arsenal of submarines, the integration of robotics, an increased level of automation of work, a significant reduction in noise (if the stated values ​​are achieved) significantly increase the combat effectiveness of the new project boats.

Earlier it became known that when working on a multi-purpose submarine 5-generation "Huskies" used a huge experience gained in the development of boats projects 671, 971, 885 and their various modifications. And in March 2018, the Malachit St. Petersburg Marine Engineering Bureau completed work on creating an advance project for the HUSKI 5 generation submarine, after which the process of discussing the project with representatives of the Russian Navy began. As noted by the General Director of “Malachite” Vladimir Dorofeev, in addition to the technical characteristics, the new project should be different and the economic component. “Our ships should become not only more powerful, but also cheaper” - the general director of the company developing the promising boat emphasized.

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  1. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 May 2018 05: 52
    Submarines using the latest technology, with widespread use of composites, drones and hypersonic weapons, by definition, cannot be cheap. And if their characteristics are higher than "Ashen" and even more so.
    1. Bar1
      Bar1 15 May 2018 06: 30
      while with these husky masks there is only talk, if only, yes.
      1. vkl.47
        vkl.47 15 May 2018 09: 23
        The most important thing is to start whining how the chicks like to do it. About rockets, such whiners also whined. Yes, when this hypersound appears ... if yes koby. Wipe off the women
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 15 May 2018 10: 26
          live in a fictitious reality, another 18 years old and you will have husky manila.
          1. Lock36
            Lock36 15 May 2018 14: 43
            And you cry, cry, do not keep in yourself, share your pain with everyone here - you are a man! Maybe someone will regret ...
            1. AUL
              AUL 15 May 2018 21: 14
              Now Husky is at the Wishlist stage. So far, there is not even a design specification from MO. But it is already being advertised as something phenomenal and, most importantly, cheaper than existing boats. Somehow it’s not serious!
              1. Lock36
                Lock36 16 May 2018 21: 12
                Well this is marketing, you look at the Americans - we are far from PR in them.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 16 May 2018 18: 23
        Quote: Bar1
        while with these husky masks there is only talk, if only, yes.

        And what do classics say about this?
        A Russian person should be thanked at least for his intentions ...
        N.V. Gogol
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 15 May 2018 07: 09
      Quote: Wedmak
      Submarines using the latest technology, with widespread use of composites, drones and hypersonic weapons, by definition, cannot be cheap.

      Duc .... and you do not offer "husky" with "drones and zircon"! And if ... "without" ...? It will be cheaper! Will you take
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 May 2018 07: 57
        And if ... "without" ...?

        And why then fence the garden? Do atomic Warsawyanka? What's the point?
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 15 May 2018 10: 06
          Quote: Wedmak
          What's the point?

          And the point is that "money in the morning, chairs in the evening ..... chairs in the evening, a closet in the morning ... Slavic ... with a bedside table .... for dinner! what
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 15 May 2018 14: 12
      The most important thing. that the project is also not nearly ready. Accordingly, what prices will be by the beginning of the construction of the head submarine, even the wang will not predict. And then someone already knows that the Husky will be very cheap? belay Design work on a new generation of Apple, together with the development of systems for it, in principle, is not cheap. Create a head submarine, experience. Then fix all the jambs. which on the new project will definitely be a carriage and a small cart, then try again. Then deploy pr-in this new project, even with some kind of unification with the previous ones, this is a lot of money. So the title of the article can be perceived only with a smile. A nuclear fleet is a serious expense, albeit a necessary one. But it’s definitely not necessary to talk about cheapness. hi
    4. Yarhann
      Yarhann 21 May 2018 00: 25
      the high cost of nuclear submarines is determined not so much by weapons and complexes as the size of the boat and crew itself - it is the size of the crew and the set of means to ensure its vital functions that increase both the size and cost of the boat. reducing the crew as much as possible increasing the automation and robotization of processes - the boat will become smaller and cheaper. In modern conditions of designing and prototyping on computers, making a boat better and cheaper than ash is not a problem. Still, do not forget that ash is built according to the old Soviet school of underwater shipbuilding - but in the courtyard of the 21st century there are now many other technical solutions and materials. Modern electronic base, modern calculators are all many times smaller and cheaper.
      As for me, only one thing is slowing down the start of work on the boat now - this weapon - that is, Zircon-type missiles and an over-the-target targeting system - is either a space group or reconnaissance UAV based on nuclear submarines.
      The fact that the boat should be smaller and cheaper than Ashen is, as it were, understandable - but again, the problem is mainly weapons - without it, it makes no sense to fence a garden.
      Just as it makes no sense PAK YES so far there is no promising hypersonic weapons - there is no point in developing its TK. After all, both the boat and the bomber are carriers of weapons - and a new carrier of weapons should have new weapons, but without it there is no sense in it.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 21 May 2018 08: 31
        Still, do not forget that ash is built according to the old Soviet school of underwater shipbuilding

        Hello, we arrived ... And why they say differently at all corners - Ash was made using the latest technologies and therefore it is expensive. And this is believed more because the layout of this submarine is fundamentally different from the layout of Soviet submarines.
        1. Yarhann
          Yarhann 21 May 2018 19: 46
          Hello, we arrived .1977 the year the design began - this is a Soviet boat. The only boat that was put into operation in 1993, launched in 2010 - it’s understandable that both the specialists and the technologies were lost - because it is obvious that the boat went gold - but it was still built according to the same Soviet developments. But the 885M, laid down in 2009 and launched in 2017, is already a modernization - for current types of weapons and a modern electronic base - but all in the same project - in the same building, etc. Nothing there has changed dramatically since the late 80s. The boat was built according to the design and construction technologies of the mid 80s, only the equipment is new and that is not all.
          Therefore, under the new equipment it is necessary to create a new boat, and not shove it into the old project. And when a new weapon comes out - a new hypersonic missile, perhaps new torpedoes then the boat will be completely different - but given the modern development of automation and robotization, the boat will be much smaller and smaller crew - this will make it possible to make the boat easier and cheaper - this is the introduction of modern technology . And pushing modern equipment into the old building (and the project itself in the mid-80s) is a deep modernization.
          So excuse me, but ash is a purely Soviet boat - both the one in service and the one that is being prepared for commissioning (although of course it has already been modernized).
          You know how to compare the T 90 and Abrams tanks - one tank is as automated as possible and has a small storage space, while the second one is still manually operated, as a result, a large storage space, more material consumption, more means of ensuring the crew’s livelihoods etc. - and as a result, with comparable one tank is cheaper than another.
          Reducing the crew is a modern trend - this is the very first way to save money and obtain other higher technical characteristics.
  2. Dimka75
    Dimka75 15 May 2018 08: 04
    Sorry for my syllable, but this would be a cut from the text
    may become
    can compete
    suggestions are made
    will have to replace
    will begin only after 2020
    will receive
    will be intended
    Project research is still underway
    even the appearance is not fully defined
    exists only in the form of sketches
    will receive a two-hull design
    there will be less submarines
    will have even less noise
    Boat hull will be built
    will have to reduce
    help reduce weight
    they can be integrated
    will become the main means
    Expected to be completed already
    will be completed
    boat developers will be able to go
    bookmark may take place
    indicative bookmark date
    get the opportunity
    will be implemented
    According to experts
    Another opportunity could be
    will carry on
    boats will be integrated
    boats will have the opportunity
    It is also believed that there will be
    while there will be
    future boats
    will be widely used
    In addition to this, it is assumed that
    latest technology will be introduced
    According to Badger, it is expected to be doubled
    increase combat effectiveness
    The project discussion process has begun
    new project should be different
    ships should become not only more powerful, but also cheaper
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 15 May 2018 08: 25
      Quote: Dimka75
      but this is a cut from the text

      All data on the characteristics of a combat ship are made available only after it has been decommissioned from the armed forces. And then after some time (but it happens that not when). Therefore, it is natural that the author (to the extent of his competence) supplements the information on the latest projects with his own assumptions
      1. mvg
        mvg 15 May 2018 11: 47
        Not when and never - these are different things.
      2. MPN
        MPN 15 May 2018 18: 49
        Alexey hi
        Quote: Chertt
        Therefore, it is natural that the author (to the extent of his competence)
        here for sure ... although maybe I'm wrong about something?
        will get into service anti-submarine missiles "Caliber"
        Do we have such? Probably a little one ... recourse
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 15 May 2018 19: 25
          Good evening hi
          will be armed with anti-submarine caliber missiles

          It seems to be. The 91RE1 anti-submarine missile is part of the Caliber-PLE integrated missile system for arming submarines
          1. MPN
            MPN 15 May 2018 19: 30
            I'm sorry ... I apologize to the author .. hi
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 May 2018 08: 45
    Cheap? Go around the tree?
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 15 May 2018 11: 33
      Quote: sergo1914
      Cheap? Go around the tree?

      Nanografenom in half with nanofoam. Chubais is already working.
    2. Visa Witness
      Visa Witness 16 May 2018 00: 16
      But the tree is not visible on the radar
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 16 May 2018 18: 48
        Quote: Visa-free witness
        But the tree is not visible on the radar

        But the "log" on the GAS monitor - can be seen perfectly !!! And if the log is also with a "motor" - then the ShPS recorder writes it with great pleasure!
        AHA. bully
  4. Old26
    Old26 15 May 2018 10: 10
    To be honest, I still don’t understand why this article appeared, based solely on assumptions and rumors? The author, like the immortal Ostap Bender, "suffered". that's all, even IMHO the most ridiculous rumors.
    and assumptions.

    What is the phrase that combines the realities and inventions of the author?

    Missiles that move at such a speed are very difficult to track and accordingly intercept, since it manages to approach the target from the moment it is detected by the radar.

    Yes, such goals are now most likely difficult to intercept. And most likely there are still no missiles designed to intercept them. But the author’s statement that it’s difficult to track them, because high speed is also a little true

    Or sayings that
    Some sources even reported that the Husky project boats would carry the Status 6 nuclear torpedo on board.

    Are these sources one-grandma said? Why quote the deliberate delirium of our journalists who have mania all that is new - be sure to "insert" into some ship or submarine.

    Talking about price, when there is no project yet, just talk. Any shift to the right during construction is a price increase. And how much this price can increase compared with the originally planned is unknown
    I don’t put a plus for the article, alas, there are no minuses ...
  5. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter 15 May 2018 10: 35
    Good things can't be cheap request Something like this
    1. usovo1
      usovo1 15 May 2018 12: 05
      Great comment! request Something like this
  6. san4es
    san4es 15 May 2018 11: 02
    hi The current trend in the development of Russian weapons is modularity, unification and interchangeability. They plan to create new submarines with unified bow and stern parts, with the possibility of using them both to create strategic and strike submarines, changing the design of the weapon compartment depending on the task.
    First of all, the latest Russian nuclear submarines will be armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles.
    Hypersonic rocket test table:
    TTX missiles:
    Length - estimated from 8 to 10.5 m (more likely a large figure)
    - 300-400 km (Spanish in usa)
    - 800-1000 km (forecast)
    - not less than 4.5 M (source)
    - presumably 5-6 M (source)
    - 6 M (source, 2016)
    - up to 8 M (source, 15.04.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    Combat equipment:
    The warhead of the rocket is designed and manufactured by GosNIImash as of 2014 (source - GosNIImash annual report for 2014).
    - Submarine K-560 "Severodvinsk" pr.885 / GRANEY - in the winter of 2016-2017. The submarine was converted for testing RCC Zircon from the UKSK 3S-14 launcher.
    - Submarine pr.885M Yasen-M - probably, the submarines will be equipped with an improved 3C-14 complex with the possibility of using Zircon missiles.
    - PLARK pr.949AM - they will probably get the opportunity to use the Zircon anti-ship missiles after modernization (instead of the P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles).
    - heavy nuclear missile cruiser pr.11442 "Peter the Great" - after the modernization, which is planned for 2019-2022. as part of 3C-14 launchers (source).
    - heavy nuclear missile cruiser pr.11442M "Admiral Nakhimov" - after modernization, which is underway as of 2016, it is planned to use 3C-14-11442M launchers (source).
    - promising 5th generation PLACR "Husky" soldier
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 15 May 2018 14: 08
      Quote: san4es
      Hypersonic Missile Test Chart

      And what do the "alleged test results" confirm? What to assume - not tossing bags?
      1. san4es
        san4es 15 May 2018 14: 36
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        ... And what do the "alleged test results" confirm?
        ...To be or not to be? bully
  7. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 15 May 2018 11: 34
    Maybe, perhaps, approximately, in general, or nothing specifically. This submarine is only on paper and even then under the heading is secret, so build ash !!!
  8. Curious
    Curious 15 May 2018 13: 35
    Why and what is this article about? The fact that the submarine, which is also not on paper, will be cheap, but "without any analogs?". Well, someone can explain to these clickers that such publications about anything are only harmful. Or did the author not read himself? Here, on the Shpakovsky site about "Poisoned Feather" he writes, tells what stupid propaganda was in the USSR. But in the USSR no one ever tried that in twenty years we will build something like that, we ourselves don’t know what else, but it’s terrible. They built it first, then showed it and scared them. And then the designers didn’t sharpen the pencils - panfares are already buzzing, timpani are rattling ... What pen is this? Goose?
  9. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 15 May 2018 14: 21
    While development is underway, one can only guess. And when they start production, then we'll see!
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 15 May 2018 15: 24
    Quote: usovo1
    Great comment! request Something like this

    Arranged part of the second phrase of your post, respectively, in Russian and English.
    It turned
    "request Something like this"
    I still do not understand.
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 13: 45
      mixed up with respect
  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 15 May 2018 18: 54
    The main thing is that there is financing! And everything will work out. I believe in our designers.
  12. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 15 May 2018 20: 33
    Why take a steam bath? The recipe for bending under water is as simple as two fingers:
    1. We build submarines on the technology of the 40s.
    2. By order of the fleet, we declare the film "Remove the periscope" compulsory for study.
    3 BINGO!
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 15 May 2018 22: 12
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      Why take a steam bath? The recipe for bending under water is as simple as two fingers:
      1. We build submarines on the technology of the 40s.
      2. By order of the fleet, we declare the film "Remove the periscope" compulsory for study.
      3 BINGO!

      And what? Now you no longer need a hetman dacha saiga. Then not only bingo, but also profit from the scrap metal delivered. tongue
    2. Horse, people and soul
      Horse, people and soul 29 August 2018 17: 39
      Missile cruiser "Ukraine" is not considered completed if it is not painted in zhovtoblakitnoye.

      Paint the hull - and you can no longer finish building, and naval parades can be held on foot on the parade ground next to the flagship in the dock forever.

  13. Tomato
    Tomato 15 May 2018 21: 31
    In a way, the article is unique.
    "It is expected that research and development work on the project may be completed by the end of 2018." If nothing has changed, the economic part of the project follows at the very end. That is, they have not yet embarked on it, but the "low cost" is already known.
  14. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 17 May 2018 13: 44
    here’s an effective and modern weapon, you need to build more submarines of all kinds, this is the basis of the fleet and security on the planet
  15. Orkraider
    Orkraider 19 May 2018 23: 36
    While I'm waiting for Ashen. And then, when they will be part of the fleet, it will be possible for Husky to dream :)
  16. leon1204id
    leon1204id 22 June 2018 19: 33
    It’s the same as PAK YES to discuss. While the project is ripe, it must already be changed. The Americans lowered the boat with the AI, which tirelessly, day and night looking for our diesel-electric submarines and nuclear submarines. By the way Varshavyanka already has a noise level at the middle speed within the natural background. Why is it quieter? fool No. hi