Kazakhstan participates in the development of new small arms

Kazakhstani specialists together with foreign colleagues are developing a promising sample of small weapons 12,7 caliber mm, transmits Interfax the message of the Minister of Defense Industry of the country Beibut Atamkulov.

Work is underway on small arms. Together with foreign partners, work is underway to develop a promising model of small arms of caliber 12,7 mm,

said the minister at the "government hour" in parliament.

In addition, at present, "the possibility of organizing the production of small arms and the modernization of automatic weapons on the basis of one of the enterprises of Kazakhstan Engineering," he added, is being determined.

Atamkulov also reminded the deputies that “helicopter and tank "Utes" machine guns, manufactured at one of the Kazakhstan Engineering enterprises, are among the five best world-class shooting products. ”

According to the report, “National Company Kazakhstan Engineering JSC is a holding structure providing a unified financial, industrial and technological policy at the largest military enterprises of the republic.” The company unites 27 plants. Its only shareholder is Samruk-Kazyna National Welfare Fund ". Today, Kazakhstan Engineering is under the trust management of the Ministry of Defense Industry.

Comments

[ANCIENT]

God help, if only they hinted with which countries and why they need it.

[AUL]

Podshamanite little cliff - here is a new, independent development.

[Shurik70]

Near Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are close by. And that means drug caravans from Afghanistan.
So he needs BMPs and helicopters.
Kazakhstan is a peaceful country. Russia will not fight with him, prepare from China - do not prepare, in case of conflict it will not help. The army, of course, is needed, but with the volume of the military budget of Kazakhstan at 1% of GDP (this is from 1,4 to 2 billion US dollars in recent years) they will not receive an acceptable combination of Quality + Price. It is safer to buy from Russia.

[NF68]

Kazakhstan is a peaceful country.

Looking at the Minister of Defense of Kazakhstan, this cannot be said:



Apparently he is somewhere with someone, maybe at night, but he is fighting. It is necessary to receive so many awards for military works.

[Shurik70]

Quote: NF68

:))))))) I remember the unforgettable Leonid Ilyich

[NF68]

Quote: kerulen

Quote: NF68

Looking at the Minister of Defense of Kazakhstan, this cannot be said.

Hello pashist Sobibor watched already? The deeds of your "glorious" ancestors ?!]

Would you go out. My glorious ancestors, on the one hand, have lived in Russia since the second half of the 18 century. And from another time immemorial on the Volga.

[NF68]

Quote: kerulen

Quote: NF68

Would you go

So you're already there

Quote: NF68

My glorious ancestors, on the one hand, have lived in Russia since the second half of the 18 century.

And what are you doing in Nemechin betrayed mother Russia for the German buns ..
And Saken Adilkhanovich Zhasuzakov, whom you vilely embarrassed by your fascist nature - a combat officer who received the Order of the Red Star (1982) from 1981 to 1983 for a year - served as part of the Limited Contingent of Soviet Forces in Afghanistan - the intelligence chief of the 177 special unit (also known as the 2-th "Muslim battalion", created on the basis of the 22-th special forces brigade of the Central Asian military district).
PS. Although to whom I explain ...

Fools. I did not live in Russia and therefore, even theoretically, I could not betray her.

PS. Although to whom I explain ...

Find some local national and explain to him. Maybe sniffing with him.

[NF68]

Quote: kerulen

Ok, a patriot has been taken. Chegozh didn’t go to Russia, but immediately to Alemania for Bavarian sausages

And why did you fly overseas, the steppe eagle with chicken feathers, and what the hell are you wiping on the Russian site for? I would ride to my own if Russia didn’t please you like that.

Is there a German ?! So my acquaintances Germans are all adequate ..

I'm talking about the semi-wild steppe eagles who are always not happy with either Russia or something else. And judging by your claims, you'll be one of them. There are very few Germans in Central Asia, and it is unlikely that they will communicate with you.

Here you explain to me why you made gloves from human skin ?!

Has someone tore off your skin, too, or has you just walked on sheep’s brains?

[Kasym]

Alexander, 5,7bn. MO budget. Now, with the new Ministry of Defense and Aerospace Industry, they will increase the cost of defense industry.

[Shurik70]

Op-pa ... At once increased the budget three times?
Not weak. Then it’s clear why they are doing this BMP. MO simply does not know where to put such a breakthrough of money. Nothing, a couple of years - and again will be missed. There is always little money.

[Kasym]

No, not at a time. It began with Ukraine, from 14g. And then, we have programs for the development of the army. Up to 15g. was to repair and modernize military equipment. She walked for about 10 years. For example, the MiG-29 was repaired in Ukraine, the Su-27 in Belarus, the Mi-24 in Rostov, etc. Then they began to restore the country's military-industrial complex. Restored Semipal. BTT repair plant - there were only bare buildings left (without a roof, some walls) - equipment and technical support. T-72 took in Kharkov - so there is little left for T-72. Then they accepted the program from 15g. to upgrade weapons. The NAS promised from 70% to 100% new weapons for the combat arms. That's when they started buying new Su-30SM, Mi-35.
Some of the new industry has emerged. Optics, armored personnel carriers, radar and radio stations, repair and assembly capacities.

[Shurik70]

Interested, looked for information on the Internet on the military budget of Kazakhstan

https://regnum.ru/news/2313004.html

2012 - $ 2,18 billion
2013 - $ 2,55 billion
2014 - $ 2,31 billion
2015 - $ 2,05 billion
2016 - $ 1,20 billion

https://informburo.kz/stati/vooruzhyonnye-sily-ka
zahstana-itogi-2017-goda.html

2017 - 382 billion tenge ~ $ 1,16 billion

https://informburo.kz/stati/byudzhet-2018-2020-na
-chto-budet-tratit-gosudarstvo-i-skolko-deneg-voz
mut-iz-nacfonda.html

2018 - 473,3 billion tenge ~ $ 1,43 billion

[Kasym]

In a personal unsubscribe. A simple example. In 2012 - 2,18bn., But new weapons were not purchased. Now 2018 is 1,43 billion, and we are waiting for the Su-30SM, Mi-35, new boat-boats in the Caspian, air defense systems, etc.
In addition to the budget of the Moscow Region, there are other financing programs.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote from AUL

Podshamanite little cliff - here is a new, independent development.

Yes ? Shaw you say! And I thought that! : ... Development of a new small arms! And then there’s talk that in the development of small arms, stagnation! So I decided that the Kazakhs “made a coup”! We took it and created an arquebus with a polygonal barrel, with LM charges, a homing sight! And then ....... "they will play a little prank" .....

[Berber]

As a result, it’s all the same, without the Russians, they will ride horses, because national policy leads to this.

[Kasym]

In the 2018 year, Kazakhstan will begin to assemble Mi-8 / 17 helicopters. This was announced by the Minister of Defense and Aerospace Industry Beibut Atamkulov, reports LS.
During the government hour in the Majilis, the head of the department explained that there are already agreements on the organization of a large-site assembly of helicopters on the basis of the Almaty Aircraft Repair Plant No.405.
Atamkulov noted that according to statistics, the volume of production of the defense industry grew by 14% to 80 billion tenge to the level of 2016 of the year. Export doubled to 16 billion tenge.
Returning to aviation, the head of the Ministry of Defense said that on the basis of the KAI Aviation Technical Center for assembly, repair and maintenance of aviation equipment launched in December 2016 this year, overhauls of 10 front-line and 4 military transport aircraft are planned, 30% of the volume of work which will be carried out directly by the center.
"These measures allow us to further increase the Kazakhstani content by localizing the processes of repair and maintenance of aircraft and leave a significant part of the funds allocated annually abroad in Kazakhstan, create jobs, and develop the domestic aviation industry," the minister said.
Atamkulov also drew attention to the fact that Eurocopter Kazakhstan Engineering entered the export of services (maintenance of EU-145 helicopters, training of flight technical personnel) and is actively working with helicopters in Kazakhstan and neighboring countries. According to him, today about 50% of revenue is made up of export of services, and the company is reaching the level of a regional service center.
In addition, the Tynys plant has mastered the production of 48 aircraft for attack aircraft and is exporting and has a steady positive growth dynamics.
In addition to aviation, Atamkulov allocated a center for the production of electron-optical devices, Kazakhstan Aselsan Engineering.
"The company, launched in 2014, produced and delivered over 12 thousand units worth over 25 billion tenge to various law enforcement agencies of Kazakhstan and made it possible to achieve almost full equipping of the readiness units with night vision devices. Last year, the company made its first export deliveries," - the minister noted.
The speaker also highlighted the armored vehicles industry, where Kazakhstan Paramount Engineering manufactures the Arlan armored wheeled vehicle with the 4x4 wheel formula. Its localization has today been brought to 70%.
"It should be noted that the production of vehicles that are protected from undermining and attacks from ambushes is carried out only in a few technologically developed countries, and Kazakhstan is one of them. Last year, the assembly of armored vehicles" ALAN "was organized. The first batch was delivered to law enforcement agencies," he declared.
In addition, a cluster for repair, modernization and technical support of armored vehicles (T-72, BMP, BTR) is being created on the basis of Semey Engineering.
Today, 830 of 2800 spare parts and components for the maintenance and modernization of heavy armored vehicles are localized at Semey Engineering.
Turning to the air defense (air defense), the minister noted that at the moment the needs are practically covered by the production capacities of the domestic enterprise (SKTB Granit).
Last year, a service center was launched to repair all air defense systems (December 2017 of the year) at this enterprise.
"This year we plan to provide a full cycle of overhaul of anti-aircraft missile equipment. The production of modern three-coordinate radars (radars - LS) has been mastered, which in their capabilities replace the old-style analog radars and surpass in tactical, technical and ergonomic characteristics," said about the plans of the minister.
Atamkulov also touched on the production of small arms. According to him, together with foreign partners, work is underway to develop a promising model of 12,7 mm small arms (anti-sniper rifle). The possibility of organizing the production of light small arms and the modernization of automatic weapons based on one of the enterprises of Kazakhstan Engineering is being determined.
“At the moment, in the field of military shipbuilding, Kazakhstan almost completely covers its needs at the expense of domestic enterprises (Zenit Ural Plant and Gidropribor Research Institute). Over the past 20 years, the naval forces and the coast guard of the border service have received 47 various vessels (of which: 9 ships of 2 rank, 8 ships of 3 rank and 9 sea and 18 river boats, 3 units of military auxiliary ships and 2 floating points). As a result, it has been formed and continues to improve a structure for ensuring defense and security in the Caspian Sea, including the tasks of countering terrorism, "Atamkulov said about the capabilities.
The Minister added that at the moment, two projects for the joint construction of a shipyard directly on the Caspian Sea with the participation of foreign companies are under development.
Speaking about the development prospects, he said that one of the issues is setting priorities for the production of weapons and military equipment. According to his assumption, the priorities should be the means of radio-technical air defense forces, precision weapons, automotive and armored vehicles, communications and automated control systems, hardware and cybersecurity software, personal protective equipment for military personnel, unmanned aerial vehicles, certain types of ammunition.
“It seems expedient to introduce such technologies as 3D-printing, composite materials, information technologies into domestic production,” said the head of the Ministry of Defense.
Atamkulov noted that in the coming years it will be necessary to carry out technological modernization at nine enterprises with a focus on the production of promising types of products with export potential.
In the coming year, it is planned to modernize two enterprises: PZTM and the plant named after Kirov.
"The main risk is the lack of long and cheap loans and financial instruments. No development institute or second-tier bank lends to the defense industry sector due to certain restrictions. Therefore, on behalf of the president, the defense industry development fund is created, which should earn money as an effective mechanism to support defense industry enterprises "- suggested Atamkulov.
He also drew attention to the fact that Kazakhstan has a significant amount of unused military equipment, potentially possible for use as objects of modernization.
"Last year, the Ministry of Science and Technology established a council. On it we consider and select promising breakthrough projects. Today we have a list of 50 promising scientific projects worth 5,9 billion tenge. Of these, six projects this year worth about 2 billion tenge approved by the National Scientific Council and after consideration of the scientific and technical commission from 2019 of the year, their implementation will begin, "said the Minister of Defense.
One of the projects involves the creation of proprietary components of Grad-type multiple launch rocket systems, which make it possible to create proprietary rocket fuel and increase the range and accuracy of missiles (up to 40 km and deviation up to 10 meters).
In the field of cybersecurity, the National Security Committee is planning to develop a new generation biometric information recognition system (persons and speech).
"An analysis of foreign experience shows that R&D expenditures in the field of national security and defense in the total share of government spending on science are about 50% (in Russia up to 48%, in the USA - 54, Israel - 60% and China 50%). This approach poses a risk of losing the country's existing scientific and technical potential in the field of defense, which may ultimately lead to the country's constant dependence on foreign technologies. Therefore, the Ministry, within the framework of the draft Law on the Defense Industry and State Defense Order, A separate procedure has been developed for financing research in the framework of the defense order. We believe that all law enforcement agencies should ensure R&D orders in the amount of at least 1% of the defense order, "Atamkulov said.
Help
Today, the military-industrial complex of Kazakhstan is a system of 40 enterprises, which provides more than 9 thousand jobs.

[Berber]

Where Kazakhstan comes - time will tell. I know one thing for sure, without Russia and Russians, nowhere. There are already examples.
I do not gloat. I would be glad if wrong.

[Kasym]

Eugene, so we are not going to "run away" anywhere. This "Slavic troika" has "wiped us out".
It should be noted that all the "strike weapons" in the KZ have Soviet-Russian roots. This year we are waiting for the Su-30SM and Mi-35. They took seriously the military-industrial complex - almost everything was restored (a couple of factories remained - the head of them. Kirov and PZTM), but new capacities appeared (optics, armored personnel carriers, radar, etc.). There are new agreements with UVZ and MiG, for example. An ammunition plant is being built.

[NordUral]

I agree with you! It is a pity that in the 80s we were so stupid and naive that we allowed ourselves to be so deceived. And some still believe in liberal tales. Together we would be strong, only one thing, it was impossible and henceforth impossible, it would be, if we were able to grow to a new Union, to do it at the expense of the people of Russia. This was one of the reasons that the citizens of the Russian Federation did not resist the collapse of the country.

[brr1]

How are the examples? Enlighten

[Yeraz]

Quote: Kasym

Today, the military-industrial complex of Kazakhstan is a system of 40 enterprises, which provides more than 9 thousand jobs.

In addition to the warring Oguzes (Turkey and Azerbaijan), the rest of the Turkic countries live in peace and tranquility and have a unique opportunity to develop in stability and security. Use this factor to the maximum.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

In the 2018 year, Kazakhstan will begin to assemble Mi-8 / 17 helicopters. This was announced by the Minister of Defense and Aerospace Industry Beibut Atamkulov, reports LS.
During the government hour in the Majilis, the head of the department explained that there are already agreements on the organization of a large-site assembly of helicopters on the basis of the Almaty Aircraft Repair Plant No.405.
Atamkulov noted that according to statistics, the volume of production of the defense industry grew by 14% to 80 billion tenge to the level of 2016 of the year. Export doubled to 16 billion tenge.
Returning to aviation, the head of the Ministry of Defense said that on the basis of the KAI Aviation Technical Center for assembly, repair and maintenance of aviation equipment launched in December 2016 this year, overhauls of 10 front-line and 4 military transport aircraft are planned, 30% of the volume of work which will be carried out directly by the center.
"These measures allow us to further increase the Kazakhstani content by localizing the processes of repair and maintenance of aircraft and leave a significant part of the funds allocated annually abroad in Kazakhstan, create jobs, and develop the domestic aviation industry," the minister said.
Atamkulov also drew attention to the fact that Eurocopter Kazakhstan Engineering entered the export of services (maintenance of EU-145 helicopters, training of flight technical personnel) and is actively working with helicopters in Kazakhstan and neighboring countries. According to him, today about 50% of revenue is made up of export of services, and the company is reaching the level of a regional service center.
In addition, the Tynys plant has mastered the production of 48 aircraft for attack aircraft and is exporting and has a steady positive growth dynamics.
In addition to aviation, Atamkulov allocated a center for the production of electron-optical devices, Kazakhstan Aselsan Engineering.
"The company, launched in 2014, produced and delivered over 12 thousand units worth over 25 billion tenge to various law enforcement agencies of Kazakhstan and made it possible to achieve almost full equipping of the readiness units with night vision devices. Last year, the company made its first export deliveries," - the minister noted.
The speaker also highlighted the armored vehicles industry, where Kazakhstan Paramount Engineering manufactures the Arlan armored wheeled vehicle with the 4x4 wheel formula. Its localization has today been brought to 70%.
"It should be noted that the production of vehicles that are protected from undermining and attacks from ambushes is carried out only in a few technologically developed countries, and Kazakhstan is one of them. Last year, the assembly of armored vehicles" ALAN "was organized. The first batch was delivered to law enforcement agencies," he declared.
In addition, a cluster for repair, modernization and technical support of armored vehicles (T-72, BMP, BTR) is being created on the basis of Semey Engineering.
Today, 830 of 2800 spare parts and components for the maintenance and modernization of heavy armored vehicles are localized at Semey Engineering.
Turning to the air defense (air defense), the minister noted that at the moment the needs are practically covered by the production capacities of the domestic enterprise (SKTB Granit).
Last year, a service center was launched to repair all air defense systems (December 2017 of the year) at this enterprise.
"This year we plan to provide a full cycle of overhaul of anti-aircraft missile equipment. The production of modern three-coordinate radars (radars - LS) has been mastered, which in their capabilities replace the old-style analog radars and surpass in tactical, technical and ergonomic characteristics," said about the plans of the minister.
Atamkulov also touched on the production of small arms. According to him, together with foreign partners, work is underway to develop a promising model of 12,7 mm small arms (anti-sniper rifle). The possibility of organizing the production of light small arms and the modernization of automatic weapons based on one of the enterprises of Kazakhstan Engineering is being determined.
“At the moment, in the field of military shipbuilding, Kazakhstan almost completely covers its needs at the expense of domestic enterprises (Zenit Ural Plant and Gidropribor Research Institute). Over the past 20 years, the naval forces and the coast guard of the border service have received 47 various vessels (of which: 9 ships of 2 rank, 8 ships of 3 rank and 9 sea and 18 river boats, 3 units of military auxiliary ships and 2 floating points). As a result, it has been formed and continues to improve a structure for ensuring defense and security in the Caspian Sea, including the tasks of countering terrorism, "Atamkulov said about the capabilities.
The Minister added that at the moment, two projects for the joint construction of a shipyard directly on the Caspian Sea with the participation of foreign companies are under development.
Speaking about the development prospects, he said that one of the issues is setting priorities for the production of weapons and military equipment. According to his assumption, the priorities should be the means of radio-technical air defense forces, precision weapons, automotive and armored vehicles, communications and automated control systems, hardware and cybersecurity software, personal protective equipment for military personnel, unmanned aerial vehicles, certain types of ammunition.
“It seems expedient to introduce such technologies as 3D-printing, composite materials, information technologies into domestic production,” said the head of the Ministry of Defense.
Atamkulov noted that in the coming years it will be necessary to carry out technological modernization at nine enterprises with a focus on the production of promising types of products with export potential.
In the coming year, it is planned to modernize two enterprises: PZTM and the plant named after Kirov.
"The main risk is the lack of long and cheap loans and financial instruments. No development institute or second-tier bank lends to the defense industry sector due to certain restrictions. Therefore, on behalf of the president, the defense industry development fund is created, which should earn money as an effective mechanism to support defense industry enterprises "- suggested Atamkulov.
He also drew attention to the fact that Kazakhstan has a significant amount of unused military equipment, potentially possible for use as objects of modernization.
"Last year, the Ministry of Science and Technology established a council. On it we consider and select promising breakthrough projects. Today we have a list of 50 promising scientific projects worth 5,9 billion tenge. Of these, six projects this year worth about 2 billion tenge approved by the National Scientific Council and after consideration of the scientific and technical commission from 2019 of the year, their implementation will begin, "said the Minister of Defense.
One of the projects involves the creation of proprietary components of Grad-type multiple launch rocket systems, which make it possible to create proprietary rocket fuel and increase the range and accuracy of missiles (up to 40 km and deviation up to 10 meters).
In the field of cybersecurity, the National Security Committee is planning to develop a new generation biometric information recognition system (persons and speech).
"An analysis of foreign experience shows that R&D expenditures in the field of national security and defense in the total share of government spending on science are about 50% (in Russia up to 48%, in the USA - 54, Israel - 60% and China 50%). This approach poses a risk of losing the country's existing scientific and technical potential in the field of defense, which may ultimately lead to the country's constant dependence on foreign technologies. Therefore, the Ministry, within the framework of the draft Law on the Defense Industry and State Defense Order, A separate procedure has been developed for financing research in the framework of the defense order. We believe that all law enforcement agencies should ensure R&D orders in the amount of at least 1% of the defense order, "Atamkulov said.
Help
Today, the military-industrial complex of Kazakhstan is a system of 40 enterprises, which provides more than 9 thousand jobs.

Anyway, almost all of this is somehow the early Soviet or Russian developments. The same repair is mainly the use of ready-made blocks. Something in Kazakhstan will be able to produce themselves, but as it was, dependence on supplies from outside was not going anywhere. Now, even in the process of refining, Russia is forced to restore a lot with no small difficulty, while the scientific and production potential of Russia is at least an order of magnitude more developed than in Kazakhstan.

[Kasym]

It makes no sense to localize all production in Kazakhstan - too costly. The Germans also do not independently develop such aircraft. Or for Leo ammunition, which in the United States produces the entire "line". A bunch of examples at least in Germany, at least in France.
For example, that APC was localized to 70%. If it makes sense in Kazakhstan to produce motors, for example? I think that because of this armored personnel carrier (which 120 units are collected per year), it makes no sense to expand such production. In the end, there are plans for KAMAZ in this regard. Hodovka, engine and transmission from KAMAZ can be adapted - what they are doing now.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

It makes no sense to localize all production in Kazakhstan - too costly. The Germans also do not independently develop such aircraft. Or for Leo ammunition, which in the United States produces the entire "line". A bunch of examples at least in Germany, at least in France.
For example, that APC was localized to 70%. If it makes sense in Kazakhstan to produce motors, for example? I think that because of this armored personnel carrier (which 120 units are collected per year), it makes no sense to expand such production. In the end, there are plans for KAMAZ in this regard. Hodovka, engine and transmission from KAMAZ can be adapted - what they are doing now.

It is the Germans who are developing the shells themselves for the Leopards-2. Only unlike the Americans, the Germans do not use depleted uranium.

As for the mass production of any modern engines, even for civilian vehicles, it is too difficult for Kazakhstan to solve which, due to a lack of specialists, Kazakhstan is simply not capable.

For see what engines are made only by MTU:

http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/produkte/motorenpro
gramm / index.de.html

For example, for heavy military equipment:

http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/produkte/motorenpro
gramm / dieselmotoren-fuer-militaerische-rad-und-ke
ttenfahrzeuge / motoren-fuer-schwere-fahrzeuge / inde
x.de.html

For light and medium:

http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/produkte/motorenpro
gramm / dieselmotoren-fuer-militaerische-rad-und-ke
ttenfahrzeuge / motoren-fuer-leichte-und-mittelschw
ere-fahrzeuge / index.de.html

Germany can afford such a luxury as it can use the groundwork for military equipment for civilian production and for turnover.

And Germany can also produce aircraft itself:

Germany
Dornier Do.228 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.228-100 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.228-212 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.328 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.328-100 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.328-120 Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.328JET Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.428JET Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.528JET Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Dornier Do.728JET Mid-Range Passenger Aircraft
Grob G.160 RANGER Administrative Aircraft
Grob G.180 SPn Administrative Aircraft

http://airwar.ru/smalnow.html

But as for the Airbus, then with such a volume of development it is better to deal with this matter together with other leading EU countries. Otherwise, competing with the United States will be too difficult.

[Kasym]

You want to say that you produce the entire line of weapons? Except the Russian Federation and the USA, no one can.
So I am writing to you that it makes no sense to invest in engines for the sake of 120 armored personnel carriers per year. But there is an assembly of KAMAZ trucks and the entire army is now on it (they have made a reserve). But at the same time, we are making products for the MiG-31, we have resumed production of the Cliff, we are repairing BTT and those Mi-8 \ 17 for ourselves and the Central Asian countries ...
In short, ... "to buy new weapons in third countries only that which is not produced in the CSTO countries" "to develop the military-industrial complex in those areas that are not in the CSTO" ... S-295 transporters from this series - there is no analogue in the series yet in the CSTO. And there is nothing more especially imported. Gifted Hugh and Humvee in parades and exercises roll out. The Russian Federation did not want to assemble helicopters in the KZ, these Eurocopters began to assemble in Astana - now Mi has moved, Ka is ready (but there is no engine on the Ka-226) ... So he is building an optics factory with Turks, ammunition from Canada, BTT from South Africa (they started before the new growths. developments with the Turks - they didn’t let them be localized), locators from Thales, something with Israel (radio stations in my opinion, but I don’t remember exactly), and so on. That's the whole policy of KZ.
Here I am about the same. If you cannot modify your joint aircraft (Eurofighter) in the EU, then why the hell should you create your own “airplane or tank” that will become obsolete before birth? We will be enough to modernize the T-72 for 20 years (they will still be in reserve from thousands) - although there are agreements with UVZ on modernity. to the level of T-90 and "alteration" in the Terminator at our factory. Something like this.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

It makes no sense to localize all production in Kazakhstan - too costly. The Germans also do not independently develop such aircraft. Or for Leo ammunition, which in the United States produces the entire "line". A bunch of examples at least in Germany, at least in France.
For example, that APC was localized to 70%. If it makes sense in Kazakhstan to produce motors, for example? I think that because of this armored personnel carrier (which 120 units are collected per year), it makes no sense to expand such production. In the end, there are plans for KAMAZ in this regard. Hodovka, engine and transmission from KAMAZ can be adapted - what they are doing now.

The Germans produce some shells for their 120 mm. American options and not only 120 mm. tank guns:

In July, 2017, the German Defense Procurement Agency BAAINBw and Rheinmetall signed a framework agreement with a potential value of hundreds of millions of euros to supply 120-mm combat and practical ammunition. The company received an initial contract worth about 45 million euros for the supply of 5000 shells DM11 in 2017-2018 years.

The DM11 three-mode high-explosive fragmentation projectile is designed to combat dismounted infantry, lightly armored targets, helicopters and the destruction of fortified positions. It can operate in the following modes: shock, delayed, and air detonation. Ammunition can be fired from any 120-mm smooth-bore gun provided that the tank is equipped with a modern fire control system. The German Army’s Leopard 2 battalions took over DM11 projectiles in 2014, it was also exported to other tank operators Leopard 2, as well as the USMC Mn 234.

http://integral-russia.ru/2017/11/01/tankovye-sna
ryady-armij-stran-nato-chto-gotovyat-dlya-partner
ov /

[odometer]

The national policy pursued by the state is quite reasonable and adequate. For now, at least ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ANCIENT

at least hinted with which countries

South Africa assembled its armored vehicles in the Republic of Kazakhstan, most likely for ease of penetration into the Central Asian market, the Republic of Kazakhstan acts only as the territory on which assembly shops were built

[Alexey-74]

again, some sort of piece copy will be made at the exhibition .......

[Kasym]

BTRs went for export (Uzbeks and Turkmen). Guess who is buying night optics from a new factory from us?

[anjey]

Semey engineering is not like the former Semipalatinsk Engineering Plant? Once they all-terrain vehicle "cayman" for the north released ....

[Kasym]

Now on defense order. We bought equipment and technical support. repair T-72 in Kharkov. Restored the factory in the past decade. There, the entire BTT is being repaired.

[odometer]

Former BT repair plant.

[FLOOD]

Good luck to the Kazakh brothers! Let not the most-most .., but his

[senima56]

It is interesting: who included "Utes" helicopter and tank machine guns produced at one of the Kazakhstan Engineering enterprises in the top five world-class rifle products?

[Tank hard]

Like who? Judging by the article - Atamkulov ...

[nikoliski]

I would have already thought in their place how they will live in the PRC

[NF68]

Quote: nikoliski

I would have already thought in their place how they will live in the PRC

As if all of Central Asia did not have to think about it.

[Kasym]

Uighurs are the key to good relations between Central Asia and China.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

Uighurs are the key to good relations between Central Asia and China.

What about the Uyghurs?

[Kasym]

Nicholas, Central Asia borders China through the XUAR (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Republic). Indigenous people: Uyghurs and Kazakhs (about 30 million and 1 million, respectively). Uighurs really want sovereignty. Those Uyghur fighters from Afghanistan to the North. Africa.
Well, how can Beijing not be friends with us, let alone climb here? We will begin to arm the Uyghurs, who are now rushing at the police with knives in the XUAR - all the more so since no one knows these mountains better than our shepherds (the mountains separate us). XUAR, Tibet, Inner Mongolia - a headache for China. They are forced to be friends with their northern neighbors so that they do not fuel separatism at the borders. Imagine those Uighurs in China with machine guns - this is the worst nightmare for Beijing. That is the whole reason. Rush here and there is a risk of being cut off here from China. And subsequently lose the XUAR. By the way, judging by the history, this happened in the 18th century, when the Chinese reached the Ferghana Valley. For two years they were kicked out of here, cutting off all the supply and communications. Ours, headed by Bogenbai Batyr (he was made military leader by our khans), were in Urumqi.
Through our mountains there are only two places where BTT can go - and there, with the USSR, there is everything that is needed.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

Well, how can Beijing not be friends with us, let alone climb here? We will begin to arm the Uyghurs, who are now rushing at the police with knives in the XUAR - all the more so since no one knows these mountains better than our shepherds (the mountains separate us). XUAR, Tibet, Inner Mongolia - a headache for China.

China and Kazakhstan are now in different weight categories and only very distant people in all of Central Asia will quarrel with China. Yes, and if the fire nevertheless breaks out in the west of China, it will not seem enough to all neighbors of China in this region or neighboring countries — when a neighbor’s house really burns, it’s better to help a neighbor extinguish his house as the flame can spread to neighboring houses .

[Babur_Imperat]

China was and is afraid of central Asia here 70 million people live all of their tens of billions of investments in this region are aimed at improving the quality of life and preventing terror in a large region

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Quote: Babur_Imperatorlugu

China was and is afraid of central Asia here 70 million people live all of their tens of billions of investments in this region are aimed at improving the quality of life and preventing terror in a large region

This is Central Asia must be afraid of China. The Chinese are hardworking and they already have enough money, but a lot.

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Quote: kerulen

Quote: NF68

And then you pulled this ocean, a steppe eagle with chicken feathers

"Go to sleep, you are drunk" (c). I’m at home, unlike you - erratic ...

Quote: NF68

and why the hell on a Russian site you are wagging?

Ok why the hell are you hanging out on the american internet ?! Use Arabic numbers, and so on. etc.

Quote: NF68

I'm talking about the semi-wild steppe eagles that are always not happy with Russia, then with something else

These "semi-wild steppe eagles" in difficult years welcomed repressed Germans :.

Then the “repressed” Germans who previously lived in Kazakhstan for a million, for no reason, began to leave for Germany since the end of the 1980's, only under the influence of memories of the reception he received. What would happen to Kazakhstan if those about whom you write as "patriots of the wild" did not build schools, hospitals, roads, industrial enterprises and other things in Kazakhstan? Those like you still basically shove their pockets for what these same "patriots of races", as well as of Ukraine, Belarus and the same Russian Germans did for Kazakhstan. If you and your family really built all this yourself, then they could It’s real to understand what all this was worth. Breaking it is much easier. Or did you, like, from Genghisides and for centuries lived in a big way, was born with a silver or even a golden spoon in your mouth?

[Camry30]

Quote: nikoliski

I would have already thought in their place how they will live in the PRC

Maybe it's time to change the record already. As in the article Kazakhstan, so is your predictable comment about the Chinese aggression

By chance, not from the Far East, why are you so afraid of them?