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Poroshenko forced to attack on the eve of World Cup 2018 football?

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A recent attempt by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to carry out reconnaissance in the Gorlovka area, as well as to strengthen intelligence activities from both the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the ground and from US reconnaissance UAVs in the air, suggests that Washington may well carry out a plan of another provocation in the Donbas. The main goal of the provocation is an attempt to inflate the Ukrainian conflict with a new force in order to enable the Maidan authorities seated in their chairs to “survive” the coming elections.


When large-scale provocation can take place? Russian political analyst Oleg Matveychev believes that this could happen on the eve of the start of the World Cup. The opening of the tournament will take place in Moscow in exactly one month - June 14. At the same time, Oleg Matveychev believes that this provocation can be arranged by the United States, so that ultimately remove Poroshenko.

Портал PolitNavigator quotes a political scientist:
Nearby our borders allegedly deployed NATO exercises. Some action Poroshenko will try to take. It resembles a recent one. historywhen Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait with permission from the United States. When he did this, he immediately made staged shots of the type of "white helmets", and the whole world declared war against Hussein. The same story can happen with Poroshenko. He will be promised support for aggression in the Donbas on the eve of the championship.


Poroshenko forced to attack on the eve of World Cup 2018 football?


From the interview:
Poroshenko will get a tough fight. Ukraine will split, there will be a crisis. But the USA doesn’t particularly care, because the problem of the World Cup will be solved. Everyone will dump on Russia, will remove the uncomfortable for Trapma Poroshenko, who has just gotten the president of the United States. And then they will think who in Ukraine will bring to power. After all, Trump is now the only thing that deals with, which resets its obligations. He can say that Russia is now responsible for Ukraine, dropping this suitcase without a handle on us.


The opinion is interesting, but only to remove Poroshenko from the presidency, the United States would have had to wait for the elections in Ukraine, given that Poroshenko’s presidential rating had already dropped below 9%. Therefore, if a provocation takes place, it is unlikely with the aim of changing the Ukrainian government. This russophobic pocket power in Ukraine Washington is quite satisfied.

And provocations by the United States before major sporting events have ceased to be a rarity - to recall at least the 2008 Olympiad and the then actions of Saakashvili, who later told the media that "the United States promised support."
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  1. Proton
    Proton 14 May 2018 08: 06
    0
    Will not force laughing foreign comrades from the evil west will come to us and here ... laughing
    1. Leeds
      Leeds 14 May 2018 08: 30
      +2
      Deja vu. Waited for the provocation in Syria, with a probability close to obvious, waited. Now we are waiting in ukrogabon.
      Israel, however, has long been setting a precedent for the use of aircraft from its territory.
      But we will still be set up as demons
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 14 May 2018 08: 45
        +4
        Quote: Leeds
        Israel, however, has long been setting a precedent for the use of aircraft from its territory.

        And not only. They also operate from Lebanese airspace, in spite of any "international law" ...

        In general, there is an impression that Russia (the assignee of the USSR), standing at the origins of the creation of the UN, wrote its Charter and laws, only for itself, so that they could be guided.

        And the rest, who were choking on them, and in the person of the same Israelites, act as they wander ...
      2. URAL72
        URAL72 14 May 2018 10: 27
        +6
        In Makeevka, a very intensive movement of military equipment has recently been observed. Maybe it’s connected with the parade, maybe it’s also rotation, but it’s getting ready ... Moscow knows much more than it leaks into the press, and there are still quite a few officers in the Ukrainian headquarters who do not dream of a geyrop and lace shorts ... And you and I can tell fortunes on coffee grounds, at least some kind of training is for the mind.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 May 2018 10: 39
          0
          But Moscow doesn’t care anymore - the time will come and Minsk 2 will be covered, one damn thing this doesn’t work, and they all wanted to spit on him.
        2. vasya.pupkin
          vasya.pupkin 14 May 2018 12: 26
          +2
          Quote: URAL72
          In Makeevka, a very intensive movement of military equipment has recently been observed. Maybe it’s connected with the parade, maybe it’s also rotation, but it’s getting ready ... Moscow knows much more than it leaks into the press, and there are still quite a few officers in the Ukrainian headquarters who do not dream of a geyrop and lace shorts ... And you and I can tell fortunes on coffee grounds, at least some kind of training is for the mind.

          Oleg, you can "guess on the coffee grounds" as much as you like, but why do you "blurt out" about the "intensive movement of military equipment"? Who do you work for? Forgot holy - "Do not talk!"
          1. URAL72
            URAL72 14 May 2018 15: 40
            +1
            Vasya! The technique walks during the day, along the main highway, only the blind do not see it, but they hear it. There really is no need to talk, - in Kiev they know everything that they know in the Donetsk headquarters, military commissariats and even hospitals ...
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 08: 07
    +4
    meaning? just as Russia loses in football, so Ukraine loses in Novorossia. (well, not given ....)
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 14 May 2018 08: 12
      +6
      Yes, so many times already "forced" !!! .... there are not so many frank dddd-insane there, Schaub to change the military feeding trough to an honorable place two per meter!
      They will scrape together a provocation, nothing more.
    2. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 14 May 2018 08: 16
      +10
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      meaning? just as Russia loses in football, so Ukraine loses in Novorossia. (well, not given ....)

      But the Russian team (football) will not destroy the stadiums, they will not trample the lawns, and they will not stomp people to death ...

      But the other Russian team, in the current situation in the Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR, will have to hold a “away match”, if real, dill decide to move on us with the whole armada.

      For: They taught us, underestimated. They have equipped us, have not equipped them ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 08: 18
        +1
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        meaning? just as Russia loses in football, so Ukraine loses in Novorossia. (well, not given ....)

        But the Russian team (football) will not destroy the stadiums, they will not trample the lawns, and they will not stomp people to death ...

        that yes. here I agree, we do not have such "orcs". hi
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 09: 03
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          , we don’t have such "orcs."

          but there is the Army of Russia — I believe in that. and I think at "hour X" (I hope) you will meet our army, with flowers and with everything that is supposed to. wink
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 14 May 2018 09: 10
            +2
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            but there is the Army of Russia — I believe in that. and I think at "hour X" (I hope) you will meet our army, with flowers and with everything that is supposed to.

            Someone, of course, will meet, and someone in the trench, dug by dill artillery, wallow ...

            Too large and sufficiently equipped forces against us are gathered, a terrible blow can be dealt to us ...

            Music will play but too many do not hear it.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 12: 07
              +3
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Music will play, but too many will not hear it

              I would be glad to say something optimistic, but this is to Putin ... we ourselves are in prostration, he alone knows what to do. request most of this World Cup didn’t give up, the money could be used more wisely.
              1. Normal
                Normal 14 May 2018 12: 18
                +3
                The World Cup surrendered if only because millions of people who came to us in Russia, learn the truth about the Russian people, how we live, learn our culture, see that there are no bears carrying balalaika down the street. Wider need to think.
                1. Visa Witness
                  Visa Witness 14 May 2018 15: 20
                  +1
                  Well, then what will he see? The whole government decides anyway, and it has always been against Russia. In Sochi, many foreigners saw Russia, and why?
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          2. Senior manager
            Senior manager 15 May 2018 09: 36
            0
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            You will meet our army, with flowers and with everything that is supposed to. wink

            Flowers are optional, and “jobs” should be in order.
      2. A good one
        A good one 14 May 2018 08: 24
        +6
        Ten days before the opening, if they begin, then the failure of the championship is guaranteed.
        1. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 14 May 2018 10: 03
          +1
          Quote: Not bad
          Ten days before the opening, if they begin, then the failure of the championship is guaranteed.

          Here the forks have mattresses (Vukrainsky). If they go further than a shallow provocation, the World Cup will be partially foiled, but in return they will receive in their nose a repetition of the South Ossetian scenario, which is even worse for them than the failure of the World Cup. And minor provocations will not affect the World Cup.
      3. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 14 May 2018 14: 53
        +1
        Is it really so bad with the north wind? Well, yes, Syria is more important :( And where did the flowers go?
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 14 May 2018 08: 08
    +1
    Everything goes according to the worked out scenario, without any frills. Therefore, you can expect anything you want. At the championship or on the day of Russia.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 May 2018 10: 41
      0
      Well, at the World Cup in Russia, the beginning of intense hostilities in the Donbass will not be affected.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 12: 08
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Well, at the World Cup in Russia, the beginning of intense hostilities in the Donbass will not be affected.

        Well, how to say, some people will refuse to go ... and this is a loss in money. I am silent about the image already.
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 May 2018 08: 10
    +1
    Washington is generous with promises! But the matter does not go further, or even blame all sins!
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 May 2018 08: 52
      +2
      He will do everything with the wrong hands and observe from the side ..., will blame the one whom he will benefit.
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 14 May 2018 09: 02
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        will blame the one whom he will benefit.

        Greetings, Victor!

        I know who will be blamed yes Everything is destined.
        1. cniza
          cniza 14 May 2018 09: 04
          +2
          Greetings Sergey! hi
          They know everything in advance, they are "exceptional".
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 May 2018 08: 13
    +2
    Well, Poroshenko needs to do something ... Loses power - loses everything. All dogs will be hanged on him ... And the business will be taken away. Yes, only to drive VSUshnikov to war is unlikely to succeed. They understand - a large-scale offensive in the Donbass - will turn into a rout, in comparison with which the Ilovaisky Cauldron and Debaltseve seem like a childish prank ... For Russia, the Donbass is more important than any World Cup there.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 14 May 2018 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      For Russia, Donbass is more important than any World Cup there.

      Yes?
      1. Senior manager
        Senior manager 15 May 2018 09: 41
        0
        Quote: BecmepH
        Yes?

        And you never thought, but actually why Donetsk and Lugansk have not yet been defeated? Do not get carried away by fairy tales from the Means of Mass Disinformation, and even these means cannot know EVERYTHING.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 15 May 2018 10: 11
          0
          Quote: St. Propulsion
          Quote: BecmepH
          Yes?

          And you never thought, but actually why Donetsk and Lugansk have not yet been defeated? Do not get carried away by fairy tales from the Means of Mass Disinformation, and even these means cannot know EVERYTHING.

          I wrote it sarcastically. For our government, any such events are more important. It is thought to replenish its own moshny. And this is more expensive than the motherland
    2. t-4
      t-4 14 May 2018 08: 35
      +1
      And who will actually ask Ukraine? What they want there and what they don’t want. The main goal is Russia.
      An order will come from nada - and forward, to the attack. And if Putin will respond harshly, then here is the collective West and cards in hand. And you are the aggressor of Russia, and the boycott of the 2018 World Cup, and the sanctions in full, and the expulsion from the UN (probably).
      I wonder why this order to mop up the Donbass has not yet arrived.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 May 2018 10: 43
      0
      “For Russia, Donbass is more important than any World Cup there” - They didn’t guess.
      1. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 14 May 2018 14: 55
        +1
        As they said before, what do you prove? But seriously, I do not believe it since 2014.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 14 May 2018 08: 16
    +3
    uncomfortable for Tramp Poroshenko, who just got the US president, will be removed

    that's what he got the trump from? sitting thumps, the main thing does not interfere ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 08: 20
      +1
      Quote: Masya Masya
      that's what he got the trump from? sitting thumps, the main thing does not interfere.

      maybe Trump, got sick of sending him a "viskar"? what
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 14 May 2018 08: 32
        +4
        love
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        maybe Trump, got sick of sending him a "viskar"?

        your vodka is not enough?
      2. evil partisan
        evil partisan 14 May 2018 08: 36
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        maybe Trump, got sick of sending him a "viskar"?

        Well then, let's help our agent! Will we send parashenko a couple of jars of boarded Rezhevsky cognac? You’re the foundation, chocolates from me ... smile
        Hi, bootlegger of the Rezhevsky spill! drinks
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 09: 06
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Well then, let's help our agent! Will we send parashenko a couple of jars of boarded Rezhevsky cognac? You’re the foundation, chocolates from me ...
          Hi, bootlegger of the Rezhevsky spill!

          burned the office ... to hell with you, no commission! (everything is lost, the client leaves "(c) tongue hi
  7. svp67
    svp67 14 May 2018 08: 21
    +4
    And provocations by the United States before major sporting events have ceased to be a rarity - to recall at least the 2008 Olympiad and the then actions of Saakashvili, who later told the media that "the United States promised support."
    You might think that before the Olympics in Sochi, how was it different?
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 May 2018 08: 54
      +2
      They will not philosophize, the script has been tested and for any outcome in the win.
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 14 May 2018 08: 34
    +3
    The fact that they will prepare some muck for the World Cup - I have no doubt. Only now - which one?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 09: 10
      +2
      Quote: wicked partisan
      The fact that they will prepare some muck for the World Cup - I have no doubt. Only now - which one?

      maybe our protyp ... they’re robbing? what wassat
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 14 May 2018 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        proip ..

        Sit down "2"! There is a mistake in the word! yes This word is spelled "b" !! fool
        You stay on additional exercises until you learn our second Russian!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 May 2018 10: 44
      0
      And what will happen to Russia from this?
  9. sagitch
    sagitch 14 May 2018 08: 51
    +2
    What rulers! Such a holiday for everyone, but they need to ruin everything!
    The peoples of the world! Aw ....! Who do you choose?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 09: 25
      0
      Quote: sagitch
      What rulers! Such a holiday for everyone, but they need to ruin everything!
      The peoples of the world! Aw ....! Who do you choose?

      Putin ... 146% ...
      1. sagitch
        sagitch 14 May 2018 13: 48
        0
        I voted for Churaikin, although I knew that Putin would win (an extra vote would not hurt, young), my wife, not for Putin (she said so). And for the GDP? You are right, a little less than 146%!
  10. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 14 May 2018 09: 03
    +2
    The assumption is interesting, but there are questions. Firstly, how does Mr. Matveychev know that Poroshenko is tired of Trump? That Trump shared his longing with Mr. Matveychev. Secondly, if Poroshenko really bothered the owner. then why arrange such a whistle. Removing Poroshenko can occur at the click of a finger. Thirdly, I am more and more convinced of that. that Trump does not like to engage in complex intrigues. He is rather just an old tyrant. He acts rudely, but efficiently, without paying attention to talkers and lovers of human rights, which, however, is one and the same.
  11. Altona
    Altona 14 May 2018 09: 04
    +2

    Hmm, Petro Alekseevich for such a turn of events may not be enough brandy. laughing
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 May 2018 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: Altona

      Hmm, Petro Alekseevich for such a turn of events may not be enough brandy. laughing

      Evgen laughs at the neighbors tired of his "laugh" enough ... look, so they have no more funny than ours.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 14 May 2018 09: 22
        +3
        I quote Andrey Yuryevich. "Eugene laugh at the neighbors tired of his" laugh "enough ... "That's for sure - the people and I personally voted for Putin to have economic growth. But he cheated - instead of economic growth, he slipped the people of Medvedev. Putin's statement that there is economic growth, but the little one reminded me of a long-standing incident from student life. We were taught to use a physical device where it was necessary to look through the eyepiece. I look and I don’t see anything. I called the teacher, she looked and said, “Weak, but I see.” The laboratory assistant came up and turned on the plug.
  12. Guru
    Guru 14 May 2018 09: 11
    +1
    More recently, they expected that the provocation would be before the presidential election, now for the championship. Ukrainians are of course crazy, but not complete fool .
  13. Topotun
    Topotun 14 May 2018 09: 27
    +1
    "Therefore, if the provocation takes place, it is unlikely to change the Ukrainian government. Washington is quite happy with this Russophobian pocket power in Ukraine."
    If the provocation takes place - and this is quite realistic, then most likely in order to maintain Poroshenko’s power. Under this war, all the dissatisfied can be attributed. And again, drive the wave to Russia in all the media. Championship is possibly at stake. Although, by and large, the constant escalation of tension around Russia with a high degree of probability leads to a war in Europe or the Third World War. That's how lucky. Well, it is not possible to constantly create tension around our country, without the risk of an accidental breakdown. Someone’s nerves were not sore and raced ....
  14. Cananecat
    Cananecat 14 May 2018 09: 27
    +1
    What provocations can we talk about if the shellings are not silent. A massive offensive on the entire front? So recent boilers are still fresh in the memory of ukrokhunta. And massive losses in the Armed Forces will not be in vain for the ruling regime. An attempt to shell Rostov? Our grouping of troops in this direction will watch like never before the start of the championship. The NATO members will not succeed in catching us at the next “peace enforcement”. As if it were not trite, but I believe in the fighting efficiency of Donbass.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 May 2018 09: 31
    +2
    It is clear that Poroshenko will not run to implement the Minsk agreements, not for this it was conceived by the West in Ukraine. But when it starts - the question. According to the logic and worked out on other tracing paper, according to which Americans are accustomed to work, it is possible that the championship.
  16. sgr291158
    sgr291158 14 May 2018 09: 34
    0
    When they start there is not yet known. But what they’ll start for sure is how the Americans will conceive.
  17. Kibl
    Kibl 14 May 2018 09: 41
    +1
    No need to hang dogs on Poroshenko! Himself must be lifted up at the very first lamppost!
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 14 May 2018 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: KIBL
      No need to hang dogs on Poroshenko! Himself must be lifted up at the very first lamppost!

      So do it personally, and the people will come to you to help ..
  18. Altona
    Altona 14 May 2018 10: 47
    +2
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    I quote Andrey Yuryevich. "Eugene laugh at the neighbors tired of his" laugh "enough ..." That's for sure - the people and I personally voted for Putin to have economic growth. But he deceived - instead of economic growth, he slipped the people of Medvedev.

    --------------------------------
    Michael, this is all clear. About this, I also wrote that we will not have changes, despite loud statements. Some point things will be, some sluggish process will be. But the “breakthrough” in which we are called will turn out to be complete “muddy” as before with the Portuguese GDP, 25 million jobs and others. The authorities will not allow anyone to their circle. Moreover, there are already elements of fascization. The rally of adepts of Navalny was dispersed by whispers of "patriotic and conscious" citizens, in Cossack uniforms. We abstract from the rally and those who gathered there. Who gave “conscious" citizens the right to violence? Do we already have our own "Right Sector"? Or following the example of tsarist Russia, "Black Hundred"?
    1. Topotun
      Topotun 14 May 2018 11: 21
      +1
      The president is made by a team. Can you name someone to replace Medvedev surrounded by the president? Medvedev is an ideal performer, has no complaints. He pursues the policy that GDP is needed .... He doesn’t make any decisions himself .... At least I don’t know any of his decisions that would go against the decisions of GDP ..... In general, in a hurry with conclusions we will not. We will wait at least 5 months. Then it will be seen - in vain they chose the GDP or did it right.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 14 May 2018 12: 01
        0
        So it’s a shame that we do not have a prime minister, but a talking doll. If the supply manager is the perfect performer, then the roof will definitely flow. The owner will not follow the roof, he already has his mouth full of worries. The second question is whose policy will be executed by the supply manager. If Kudrin’s policy, then money from expensive oil will again go overseas. And there on the farm sits an old tyrant who will take, but take away. What again to listen to our experts, who will shake their heads, oh, how ugly Trump did. IMHO GDP is not very strong in the economy - not that taught. Judging by the statements, he hesitates in the economy "along with the party line" - that is, he listens to the choir of specialists, and they say different things. I would see in the post of prime minister just a competent person. who knows what to do (such as Erhard or Deng Xiaoping. Who will listen to us?
  19. 23424636
    23424636 14 May 2018 11: 40
    0
    Poroshenko will not go to war, he is smart enough and competent to go mad. I watched the layouts of his astrologers, there is a negative for the whole year. If he sits quietly and does not jerk, he can reach the end of his presidential term. The fact is that Benya Kolomoisky wants to remove him most of all from whom he simply squeezed out business in favor of the state - a feat that neither Yushchenko nor Yanukovych could take, but the clever former owner of Privatbank managed to withdraw a couple of billion dollars abroad under fake contracts and now these he uses money to hire clowns like Tipo Miho Saakashvili or to finance the party of Tymoshenko. One should heed the words of the patriarch of Russian politics Zhirinovsky - he sent greetings to Valtsman (Poroshenko) and wished him health, but it just doesn’t happen.
  20. Livonetc
    Livonetc 14 May 2018 12: 07
    0
    Olympiad - Crimea.
    World Cup - Donbass.
    More events are good and different!
  21. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 14 May 2018 14: 51
    +1
    Maybe enough of these forecasts?
    Every day the war goes on and it goes on for the fourth year, with that attitude towards the Donbass there will go on as much.
  22. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 14 May 2018 15: 01
    -1
    eve of the start of the World Cup

    Whatooooooooo? Our guarantor wants to spoil all raspberries?
    To get a knife in the back? Let’s put up with it ... let our enemies end their backs!
    Citizens do not succumb to provocations!
    Be patient Donbass ... do not answer the Ukrainian bandits, do not break the buzz of our guarantors.
    Football ... is something! This is our everything! Until the next mundial ...
  23. Visa Witness
    Visa Witness 14 May 2018 15: 22
    0
    Poroshenko perfectly understands that if he breaks the World Cup, then he will be from Putin
  24. Imobile
    Imobile 14 May 2018 16: 09
    0
    Poroshenko must be attacked strategically now, at the height of the championship it is too late. It is strategically beneficial for us not to help New Russia, or not to help much.
  25. Cheshire
    Cheshire 14 May 2018 22: 08
    0
    It’s quite possible ... they waited before May 9 ... maybe before the World Cup ... or maybe tomorrow ... before the opening of the bridge to the Crimea ... êàî ... how America would write to them.
  26. Nikolay Kuznetsov
    Nikolay Kuznetsov 14 May 2018 23: 07
    0
    An interesting idea ... Maybe Americans can "increase the pressure" of Russia on the eve of the World Cup in football. Not in the first ... For a long time I’ve been tormented by a thought .. But are the USA the main parasite and provocateur in the World, flowing from one to the other .. ., along the way, spitting on everything and everyone ... We can time to click them on the nose already ... I ask you to determine the place and time for your dear "residents" of the site ...
  27. LeonidL
    LeonidL 15 May 2018 07: 59
    +1
    The last convenient opportunity - while Russia is busy with the championship - is to spoil “with impunity” in the Donbass in the hope. that Putin will not decide to intervene again.