There will be a lot of problems. US Ambassador to Germany criticized Nord Stream-2

The US ambassador to Berlin, Richard Grenell, criticized the Nord Stream 2 project, in the implementation of which Germany closely cooperates with Russia, reports RIA News.

In particular, Grennell noted that after the construction of the gas pipeline is completed, Russia will be able to exert "too much influence" on Germany.

According to the diplomat, “the strategy of building a gas pipeline is fraught with a large number of problems.”

He also said that the project was a concern not only for the United States, but also for their European allies.

As previously reported, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are speaking out against the new gas pipeline in Europe. But the most active "fighter" with the project is Ukraine, which is afraid of losing revenues from the transit of Russian fuel. The reasons for dissatisfaction with the United States are also known - Nord Stream-2 may substantially correct their ambitious intentions to export liquefied gas to Europe.

Recall, the project involves the construction of two lines with a total capacity of 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year. The pipes will be laid from the coast of Russia through the Baltic Sea to Germany near the current Nord Stream. The building permit has already been issued by Berlin and Helsinki.

Comments

[NEXUS]

Of course ... after all, shale gas from the USA is much better. On all fronts, war is for markets, for profits, for regimes, for people. And black PR is already in full swing became with the light hand of mattresses.

[Proxima]

Quote: NEXUS

And black PR is already in full swing became with the light hand of mattresses.

... right up to the direct taming of their puppets.

[The black]

Merkel should not be pulled at the veche and not ordered her to stop helping the achressor to build a joint venture 2

[vovanpain]

In particular, Grennel noted that after the completion of the gas pipeline, Russia will be able to exert “too much influence” on Germany

Let’s stop considering the first Germans to be fools. With Russian pipeline gas, German industry is profitable, with more expensive LNG, profitability also drops a lot. And the second at the opening of Nord Stream 2, Germany becomes the largest gas hub and can itself deliver to Europe

"Too much influence"

Like Turkey in the south.

[Lelek]

Quote: vovanpain

Let's stop considering the first Germans fools.

Well, why only Germans, the rest of “Europe” are not fools either, they just counted in vain on the decency of their overseas “partner”, which turned out to be a simple tat with a brush. Insight comes in view of the threat to prosperity and these "Europeans" cease to obey the dictates of the gendarme.

[210ox]

Of course, there will be many problems ... From fart gas from Ukraine, Poland and the like ..

Quote: NEXUS

Of course ... after all, shale gas from the USA is much better. On all fronts, war is for markets, for profits, for regimes, for people. And black PR is already in full swing became with the light hand of mattresses.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: 210ox

Of course, there will be many problems ... From fart gas from Ukraine, Poland and the like ..

For some reason, the United States is always concerned about the concerns of the same geopolitical losers - Poland, the three Baltic nanosuper powers and the Ukrain. As if in Europe there are no others.

[Lelek]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Nyrobsky

The United States treats its vassals as a rancher to a slave. When it is beneficial to Washington, they declare concern about Poland and the Baltic states, and the next day they will mercilessly cut them and skin them with a roll. For example, the Jewish lobby claims to Poland for $ 300 billion:

[Sands Careers General]

Shale gas has almost died in the United States.

And these statements:

US Ambassador to Berlin Richard Grenell criticized Nord Stream 2 project

Nothing at all. Dumb yapping, from impotence and political impotence.

[kipod]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Shale gas has almost died in the United States.

can you somehow confirm this?

[Sands Careers General]

Am I obligated to do this?

So he took it and galloped on a horse in front of every applicant.
Horseradish! Look for information yourself and refute, if you know how.

[Kasym]

Enough of the fact, General, that during the frosts this winter, the States bought LNG produced in the Russian Federation.
Zhora, it will be fun to see how Westerners impose sanctions on each other. Let it be better to engage in trade wars with ourselves, and we will observe from the side. Maybe Europeans will throw off the American "yoke", otherwise they will remain extreme with state LNG. Russia will turn east and end the competitiveness of the EU. Few of them are torn from Iranian resources, so now it’s also from Russia - it’s time for the Europeans to “butt” for their interests ... They shouted that Putin should leave - in the end, only old Merkel remained, who is now the “Russian threat” and globalism is across the throat got up. So mooing "not yours and not ours," do not understand what.
Disagreements on Iran and EuroNATO are still interesting. Splinter into the Atlantic unity are still those.

[Sands Careers General]

I completely agree, Dauren

[Grits]

As I understand it, shale gas is a very expensive item to produce. Therefore, its profitability (and, accordingly, production) very much depends on the price of gas / oil. Since prices are high now, the possibilities for shale gas production are increasing significantly.

[K-50]

Quote: Gritsa

As I understand it, shale gas is a very expensive item to produce.

If the companies involved in shale production are threatened with an environmental violation and forced to restore it, then shale gas will cost gold.
In theory, they should do so, well, if the "shale" lawyers are argued in court.
Another minus SG, it is less calorific.

[rocket757]

Shale hemorrhage may not have died, but remains as it wrote. So far, oil shale gas does not directly compete with pipe gas from Russia. Let's just say that the Germans know how to count the Evriks from the peyts ..... they will certainly not ask for elected councils, since the Yankees have sent!
Problems we can and will be, but we can not, TIME WILL SHOW.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Shale gas has almost died in the United States.

1. The price of gas is tied to the price of oil. States are swinging BV and Iran to boost gas prices. At a price of 75-80 $ per barrel, shale gas becomes cost-effective for the Yankees.
2. The Yankees built 20 terminals for receiving GSS in Europe. Poland, having settled comfortably under Uncle Sam, is already receiving regular gas carriers with SSG. The country of 404 was led to this. Therefore, they are both smacked against the Russian SP-2.
3. The springboard decided to crush Europe economically so that no one would rock the boat and buy an Amer product. And this despite the fact that all the gas fields in Ukraine were bought by the Yankees ...
4. We should take the natural gas pricing policy very seriously so as not to give the Yankees a chance to get into Europe with their GCC. Well, at the same time, buy up on the vine all supplies from Uzbekistan and others like them.
5. It becomes crowded in the market: Azerbaijan and Iran decided to unite and crawl out onto the energy market for South-East Europe. Thus competing with us on the Turkish stream. As they say, also NOT ICE!
IMHO.

[LMN]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Shale gas has almost died in the United States.

1. The price of gas is tied to the price of oil. States are swinging BV and Iran to boost gas prices. At a price of 75-80 $ per barrel, shale gas becomes cost-effective for the Yankees.
2. The Yankees built 20 terminals for receiving GSS in Europe. Poland, having settled comfortably under Uncle Sam, is already receiving regular gas carriers with SSG. The country of 404 was led to this. Therefore, they are both smacked against the Russian SP-2.
3. The springboard decided to crush Europe economically so that no one would rock the boat and buy an Amer product. And this despite the fact that all the gas fields in Ukraine were bought by the Yankees ...
4. We should take the natural gas pricing policy very seriously so as not to give the Yankees a chance to get into Europe with their GCC. Well, at the same time, buy up on the vine all supplies from Uzbekistan and others like them.
5. It becomes crowded in the market: Azerbaijan and Iran decided to unite and crawl out onto the energy market for South-East Europe. Thus competing with us on the Turkish stream. As they say, also NOT ICE!
IMHO.

And under what conditions, in your opinion, will it be more profitable to buy liquefied gas from the USA than Russian pipe?
In addition, if I understand correctly, shale gas is inferior in quality.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: LMN

And under what conditions, in your opinion, will it be more profitable to buy liquefied gas from the USA than Russian pipe?

A priori - not at all! For pipeline transport is the cheapest, cheaper than sea.
Second, the shoulder of delivery of our gas and Amer’s is incomparable! And all this is included in the price for 1m cube.
And thirdly, the quality (you are absolutely right here) of our gas after purification is higher than the Amersky SSG. It can be fed into the oven, but sulfur-containing CCG - no.
Fourth, American businessmen who count dollars do not hesitate to buy LNG from us, apparently cheaper and higher quality.

Moscow, January 28. The second tanker with Russian liquefied gas went to the United States. According to Bloomberg with reference to the cargo tracking company Kpler SAS, the vessel will take gas from the Yamal LNG plant from the French Dunker and will arrive in the United States on February 15. The first tanker with Russian gas is awaiting discharge at the port of Boston. It was acquired by Britain and overbought by France, but then the United States sharply raised fuel prices due to frosts and the inability of major suppliers to provide the country with the necessary volumes of gas, reports Ura.ru. Recall that at the end of last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin took part in loading the first tanker of the Yamal LNG project. Liquefied gas production began on December 5. The project will build three lines for liquefying 5,5 million tons of gas annually.

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[sabakina]

Sasha, it seems they wrote that mattresses are selling our gas from Yamal under the guise of their own? .....

[Boa kaa]

Quote: sabakina

like they wrote that mattresses are selling our gas from Yamal under the guise of their own? ....

Glory, hello. Here is a slightly different scheme, bypassing sanctions, invented by our managers.
If briefly:
1. On the Yamal Peninsula at the end of 2017. The giant Novatek liquefied natural gas plant was opened, the second gas producer in Russia after Gazprom. The project cost of $ 27 billion. French Total and Chinese CNPC acted as co-investors, which allowed to build and launch the plant.
2. From the terminal on the Yamal Peninsula, Russian gas will be supplied not only to Europe, but also to Asia, in particular to China, and, as recent experience has shown, to Western Europe and the USA.
3. Further, ice-class tankers LNG (the first tanker with Russian liquefied gas went from Yamal to the British island of Grain), where it was safely unloaded in the storage facilities located there.
Together with Russian, they turned out to have gas from Algeria, from Trinidad and Tobago, and Qatar. Therefore, Russian gas "lost its identity," but not the price !!!
4. There the French tanker Gaselys was loaded with gas, not of the ice class, but of the usual class, which turned out to be off the coast of the USA near Boston. Before reaching the Everett terminal in Massachusetts, a tanker with “Russian” gas was well covered by documents: formally, the United States bought gas from the French (!)
Along the way, the question arose of a violation by the supplier company, which was made by the French Engie, of US sanctions legislation.
However, the firm's lawyers proved that there were no violations in gas supplies to Boston. The fact is that (1) Engie bought this gas from the Malaysian company Petroliam Nasional Bhd (it was the Malays who bought this gas from Novatek), and (2) the physical molecules of the gas that went to the USA were no longer Russian, but a mixture of liquefied gas from different countries. Representatives of Engie claim that they informed the US authorities about the nature of the cargo, and no objection was raised from them.
Thus, it turns out that such operations can circumvent sanctions, and therefore open the way for the export of Russian LNG unhindered around the world.
So, somehow ...

[Sands Careers General]

Alexander

Personally, I believe that the price of gas is tied to the price of gas itself, and a barrel of black gold is very indirect.

The United States, by the way, does not hesitate to buy gas from Russia.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Personally, I believe that the price of gas is tied to the price of gas itself, and a barrel of black gold is very indirect.

Zhora, we all believe in your genius!
However:

What is the formula for calculating the European gas price? Answer: this is the so-called Rotterdam formula. Recall that it determines the price of gas in conjunction with the price of the so-called basket of the price of petroleum products on the Rotterdam exchange. For the gas formula, it is also customary to take into account the time lag compared to the oil price in 9 months. The choice of this particular exchange is due to the fact that Rotterdam is the largest oil refining center and the place where all the main trade in oil products is concentrated. BUT The price of gas is directly related to the cost of oil. According to various estimates, the contracts on 200 of million tons of oil products per year are concluded on the Rotterdam Exchange.
As for calculating the price of a particular transaction, there is a nuance. It lies in the fact that although the formula is common to all countries, the coefficients for different states are different. It is not known which coefficients were taken into account when calculating, for example, the Ukrainian price, since this part of the contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz was not widely disclosed.

And then you can fantasize until you drop! Yeah.

[Sands Careers General]

Hello, however, Alexander

The choice of this particular exchange is due to the fact that Rotterdam is the largest oil refining center and the place where all the main trade in oil products is concentrated. And the price of gas is directly related to the cost of oil.

As for calculating the price of a particular transaction, there is a nuance. It lies in the fact that although the formula is common to all countries, the coefficients for different states are different

So is it a nuance, or is it rigidly attached?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

So is it a nuance, or is it rigidly attached?

Georges! Basic calculations are based on the Rotterdam formula. And then - the art of negotiators, political addictions, lures for the storming of the domestic consumer market, etc. Remember how we Mistral ordered the support of French President Francois Hollande ... So it is here. And everywhere there are their own coefficients, but as a rule - they lower the cost of 1m cube. raw gas.
Somehow, however.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

5. It becomes crowded in the market: Azerbaijan and Iran decided to unite and crawl out onto the energy market for South-East Europe. Thus competing with us on the Turkish stream. As they say, also NOT ICE!

Good evening, Alexander!
There is not so simple. There is a big suspicion that the gas in the TANP pipe will be not only Azerbaijani. Out of 16 billion, Turkey will suck out about half of its needs, i.e. up to 8 billion cubic meters. T.O. on all other suckers there are no more than the same 8 billion cubes. These are just crumbs, they took into account the needs of Italy (at least ...). Now let’s imagine that after Turkey the same 16 billion will remain in TANAP. Question: where do the firewood come from? Yes, from there, from TP-1,2! And everyone is happy, and all by the rules!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Good evening, Alexander!

And you health and prosperity, friend Poluect !!!

[Simple]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Poland, having settled comfortably under Uncle Sam, is already receiving regular gas carriers with SSG. The country of 404 was led to this. Therefore, they are both smacked against the Russian SP-2.

Fools law is not written.

[Kent0001]

You compare volumes. So for starters. And not only sworn friends inserted sticks into our wheels, but friends just like that. Break through ... probably .. with Dimon .... really hope.

[svp67]

Quote: NEXUS

On all fronts, war is for markets, for profits, for regimes, for people.

But Trump has something to respect, he is not bad at fighting for AMERICAN interests. You just analyze what and how it does. He roughly displaces competitors from the markets and he doesn’t care who it is, the main thing is that American companies would come to this place. You see, and the story with Iran will be the same, all the hype will end as soon as American companies get access to that market, having squeezed out or even driven out Russians, Chinese and Europeans from it.

[Mih1974]

And can you, with facts and figures, what, where, why were American companies able to push through? For it is possible to force the authorities of the countries to buy American weapons, but it is impossible to force the Citizens to buy American hamburgers instead of natural German schnitzels, French foie gras or Belgian cheese
A perfect example is the last iPhone - people are full and there is no and no previous excitement . Further more - what can the USA offer such a competitive one? Seriously, can anyone give a "list" of the best (than competitors) American goods. I am a "primitive simple man" and an acre of specialized systems and "Hollywood shit" that's something nothing is remembered. Also, in order to “defeat a competitor” one must be either Better or Cheaper: cheaper is the “opposite” for American goods, but better — they themselves, through production in China, just weaned everyone from the “better” in favor of “cheaper” . Well, all the "dances have ended", the people got used to the "cheaper" and there are no more fools to pay two to five times more for the "Made Amets" label.

[Sands Careers General]

Those same iPhones are now cheaper than half of android backgrounds. I recently bought myself for fun.

And anyway, it has long been produced in China for a long time, even in the United States, Chinese, Indians and Russian R&D are involved.
America is producing little now.

[Kent0001]

Well, yes, Iran will buy Amer’s equipment, which the Americans can remotely block. Not so stupid. There were precedents.

[siberalt]

It is understandable that only the States should influence Germany. Otherwise, Germany may get away from their dependence.

[Mountain shooter]

Ha, so that the burghers abandoned such a "yummy"? Who is this to be? They then, on the spot market of Europe, will inflict considerable money! Merkel does not intend to give in to the United States. Bent over? Maybe they can, but there Italy is catching up ...

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Ha, so that the burghers abandoned such a "yummy"? Who is this to be? They then, on the spot market of Europe, will inflict considerable money! Merkel does not intend to give in to the United States. Bent over? Maybe they can, but there Italy is catching up ...

So the Germans have already given permission, but the Swedes still do not give

The fact is that the application for laying the Nord Stream 2 IHL in the Swedish economic zone Nord Stream 2 AG filed back in September 2016.

The issue of permission for the construction of IHL Nord Stream-2 is considered in Sweden by 69 authorities.
https://neftegaz.ru/news/view/163014-A-kak-zhe-de
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Nord Stream 2 AG expects to receive a response from the Swedish government on the construction of IHL; Nord Stream-2 in the Swedish economic zone in the 4th quarter of 2017.

[LMN]

The Little Humpbacked Horse

So the Germans have already given permission, but the Swedes still do not give

Not only Germans, but also Finns and this was done at the time of the hysteria about the "poisoning of the Skripals."
As for Sweden and Denmark, they still have time to make a decision. It was planned. In addition, in case of refusal, the flow will go through an alternative route, which will be a little more expensive. (This means that they will then pay for this difference, which will be included in the price)

[solzh]

after the completion of the gas pipeline, Russia will be able to exert “too much influence” on Germany.

Russia, even in 2014, could not influence Germany. Whatever happens, whatever sanctions are imposed against Russia, the authorities will not refuse to supply gas. And all the statements of US representatives can be said in one phrase: buy our expensive gas.

[Vasyan1971]

"He also stated that the project is a concern not only for the United States, but also for its European allies."
Oh, these "allies" ...

[Masya masya]

which you won’t blurt out for the sake of promoting your interests ... even Latvia, Lithuania and Poland and the most active “fighter” with the project will produce krains from vassals to “allies” ...

[moskowit]

Remember, my friends, the story about the exchange played by the brilliant artist Arkady Raikin from the film "People and Mannequins". And his famous phrase "I will change out of principle !!" So Russia "out of principle" must implement this project !!!

[Giants]

SP-2 does not pass through the United States. I would like to ask this diplomat: what right does the country that he represents constantly creeps into where it is not necessary. The Russian Federation and Germany asked the US opinion on this issue?

[The Siberian barber]

How what ??)) They appropriated, to themselves, this right, for as long as 30 years, almost))
During this time, they are accustomed to sincerely believe that their opinion is the opinion of a "higher authority") Even, at UN resolutions, they do not really pay attention
Audacity second happiness..

[Ron]

All those who are against are wanderers losers, mongrels and sixes, who are not able to live without handouts ...., Ukria is worthless in the first place

[LMN]

In particular, Grennell noted that after the construction of the gas pipeline is completed, Russia will be able to exert "too much influence" on Germany.

I would say more ... and Germany will have "too much influence" on Europe
What in the long term means the end of "pro-American" Europe.

[Bok tubres]

"The dogs are barking, the caravan is coming ..."
The gas pipeline - to be!

[svp67]

US Ambassador to Berlin Richard Grenell criticized the Nord Stream 2 project, in which Germany works closely with Russia

But is this not a FACT OF DIRECT INTERVENTION in the internal affairs of another state?

[LMN]

Quote: svp67

US Ambassador to Berlin Richard Grenell criticized the Nord Stream 2 project, in which Germany works closely with Russia

But is this not a FACT OF DIRECT INTERVENTION in the internal affairs of another state?

One gets the impression that both Russia and Germany do not care about the opinion of the United States and its attempts to intervene in something

[Russia]

Russia doesn’t give a damn, it acts without looking back at the states, and only encourages the rest as it can.

[sabakina]

There is Sergei, there is, but since August 1945 they believe that only they have sovereignty.

[Lelek]

Quote: svp67

But is this not a FACT OF DIRECT INTERVENTION in the internal affairs of another state?

And Washington insolent laid on all international canons. They wave their sanctioned baton without understanding who is in front of them - the enemy or the vassal, or the cash cow.

[ANCIENT]

They put their mug in every hole! If even in every hole in this American hare were beaten hard! !! Weaned from this filthy manner! !!

[Altona]

American ambassador? Or an American looker? If you are an ambassador, then it’s not your business to interfere in the internal affairs of your country of residence and violate the Vienna Convention.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

violate the Vienna Convention

Which one, please specify?

You, as always, however ... are somewhat slurred

[sabakina]

Roman, let their head hurt, which one! Or do you feel sorry for their heads?

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Which one, please specify?

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Well you give! About diplomatic relations of 1961. What else? Or did you decide to show "wit" by a screenshot picture?

Responsibility and functions of diplomats.

All persons enjoying privileges and immunities are required to respect the laws and regulations of the host state.
The premises of the representative office shall not be used in any way incompatible with the functions of the representative office. They are also obligated not to interfere in the internal affairs of the host state.
All official affairs with the receiving state assigned to the mission by the sending state must be carried out with the responsibility of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the receiving state, as well as other ministries with which their coordination is required.
A diplomatic agent should not engage in any professional activity for personal gain.

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You, as always, however ... are somewhat slurred

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Increase your intellectual level and horizons, and you will be happy. Your comments with the thesis “everything is somewhat more complicated”, you know, also do not shine with informational content. However, forum users are already seeing who you are and what you are.

[Dormidont]

This village is mooing a lot

[Wolka]

Yankees are not yours, smoke peacefully on the sidelines ...

[cniza]

He also said that the project was a concern not only for the United States, but also for their European allies.
As previously reported, in Europe against the new gas pipeline are Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

So build a coalition with them.

[Terenin]

However, the United States against SP-2, not only because of fears alone about the fate of American liquefied gas exporters, LNG producers can sell their fuel in Asian markets, if they wish, give more money for this product. All the same, they need to support the Ukrainian economy, which so far is a key transit country for Russian gas to the EU. Kiev will lose $ 2 billion a year. For a country whose economy rests only on international loans, the amount of losses is unthinkable. The same applies to Poland, Slovakia, Croatia and other EU members.

[NF68]

As previously reported, in Europe, against the new gas pipeline are Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. But the most active “fighter” with the project is Ukraine, which is afraid of losing revenue from the transit of Russian fuel.

Some of the “coolest” and most “influential” countries in Europe that a reasonable person would prefer to circumvent as heaps of a known substance.

[Prisoner]

Pin dos will have problems, but we and Europe will have chocolate. Unless, of course, the Europeans do not surrender their power to the amers.

[datur]

Germans of course scum - !!! but not Ukrainians , and others like them !!!

[NordUral]

The dominant stratum of the States has always been gangster, just very skillfully hiding it from the whole world. And now this is not at all embarrassed.

[Karayakupovo]

At "Nord Stream-2" only one problem - the freebie presented by councils ended. Follow the beads to the Americans!

[Zomanus]

In short, everything, as in the last century, the Anglo-Saxons do everything against the union of Russia and Germany.
Refinement-Anglo-Saxons and their European litter.

[net0103net]

Interestingly, foreign diplomats are still the same foul-mouthed) Our Lavrov seems to be nothing, normal, nice to watch him. And this ... some kind of freak.

[Shurale]

He most likely knows the names of the people who will create these problems ...

[K-50]

"The gas pipeline construction strategy is fraught with a lot of problems."

Well, if only for pin to this.

He also said that the project was a concern not only for the United States, but also for their European allies.

It is not necessary by all to mean only the lords and their slaves. All the rest look at SP-2 “favorably”, since the unpredictable factor in the person of these two “human formations” disappears.