On a new medium. Russian Navy will receive Poseidon vehicles until 2027

Unmanned aerial devices "Poseidon" with a nuclear power plant will go to the Russian Navy under the existing state weapons program for 2018-2027 years, their carrier will be a new nuclear submarine being built at Sevmash, reports TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

The Poseidon system is included in the state armament program until 2027, and should be included in the Navy's combat strength until the end of the program. It consists of several high-speed deep-water torpedoes with a small-sized nuclear power plant. Their carrier will be an atomic submarine built on Sevmash.

- Said the source agency.

The source did not specify the type of submarine carrier, but noted that "it will not be the fifth-generation submarine Husky."

At least two special purpose nuclear submarines are built on Sevmash. In particular, according to data from open sources, the unfinished submarine of the 949 project "Belgorod" was recalculated in December by 2012 on the special project 09852, it will become the carrier of uninhabited and inhabited deep-sea research vehicles. Another special purpose nuclear submarine Khabarovsk was laid in July 2014. According to unconfirmed data, the submarine is built according to the 09851 project and can act as a carrier of both various deep-sea apparatuses and a new weapon system.

Comments

[ul_vitalii]

By that time, the adversaries would get used to the idea of ​​having this weapon.

[BZTM]

Quote: ul_vitalii

By that time

By that time-

[Greg Miller]

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

[Russia]

Slowly but surely we are doing what we need. And do not compare the incomparable, otherwise you’ll get your comment with a darling friend

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

[LMN]

Quote: Rusland

Slowly but surely we are doing what we need. And do not compare the incomparable, otherwise you’ll get your comment with a darling friend

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

So he is .. "with a darling"
Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: LMN

Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

apparently tired of removing noodles from the ears - this applies to everything that they promise and never do - hundreds of examples!

[LMN]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: LMN

Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

apparently tired of removing noodles from the ears - this applies to everything that they promise and never do - hundreds of examples!

Well, Putin has announced to the whole world about our new weapons. Give me at least one example where he deceived
"Apparently tired of removing noodles from the ears."
And you see the news in Germany or the USA
Are you ready to believe them? They don’t lie! Only in Russia ..

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: LMN

Well, Putin has announced to the whole world about our new weapons. Give me at least one example where he deceived

promised 6 frigates for the Black Sea Fleet - where are they? no? - this is a lie

Quote: LMN

Are you ready to believe them? They don’t lie!

they lie to me on the drum or not, it is important for me that they build a fleet as we bake pies!

[LMN]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: LMN

Well, Putin has announced to the whole world about our new weapons. Give me at least one example where he deceived

promised 6 frigates for the Black Sea Fleet - where are they? no? - this is a lie

Quote: LMN

Are you ready to believe them? They don’t lie!

they lie to me on the drum or not, it is important for me that they build a fleet as we bake pies!

It is unfortunate that you were so cynically deceived.
Apparently Putin and the Russian Federation did not take this moment into account .. what frustrates you, the lack of 6 new frigates at the World Cup. After all, we all really need these 6 frigates at the World Cup ..
That Trump would be our president, well, or Navalny .. then there will be for you "6 frigates", and "Poseidon" and much more

[Seaflame]

Well, three out of six are already in operation!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: LMN

That Trump would be our president, well, or Navalny .. then there will be for you "6 frigates", and "Poseidon" and much more

As for the "Poseidons" and many other things, there is no absolute certainty, but for the "slavery in the galleys" and "swallowing dust" for some, the situation could be resolved faster than they "tried to hide in the well-known western direction on the banks of the Thames ..."

[Muvka]

Yeah. Bake like pies. Recall a recent story with the latest German frigates, sort of? Or how could the French not be able to shoot from these pies in Syria?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Muvka

Recall a recent story

remind only in details

[LMN]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: Muvka

Recall a recent story

remind only in details

https://www.google.de/amp/s/topwar.ru/amp:140151-
avtomatika-podvela-stalo-izvestno-o-problemah-fra
ncuzskogo-fregata-pri-udare-po-sirii.html

[igorka357]

Well, so they gave you details that shut up then? Asked, received, answer !!!

[vovanpain]

Quote: Tiksi-3

promised 6 frigates for the Black Sea Fleet - where are they? no? - this is a lie

Give Dmitry GTU for frigates and there will be frigates for you

Quote: Tiksi-3

that they build a fleet as we bake pies!

Here you can agree on well-established technologies and equipment without sanctions, you can’t compare with our pace and yes the fleet is unfortunately not a priority for us except the SSBN but this is a nuclear triad and the stump is clear and there are money and deadlines.

Quote: Svarog

Inside, Russia is undermined by the ruling elite, which does nothing significant in order for Russia to flourish, engage in self-enrichment and PR, fostering patriotic feelings among the people, eating oysters on yachts.

In addition to the slogans on the topic, say something.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: vovanpain

Give Dmitry GTU for frigates and there will be frigates for you

Yes, the fact of the matter is that they promised to release GTU in a series this year - but in fact we should wait at least another 2-3 years, for me it's just a hoax

[igorka357]

You were given a link with details about the fucking French frigate, answer .. or don’t get any more!

[poquello]

Quote: vovanpain

do not compare with our pace

ett not yet compare, you need to look a couple of years

[Russia]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: LMN

Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

apparently tired of removing noodles from the ears - this applies to everything that they promise and never do - hundreds of examples!

Well, you can’t worry like that, buddy It will not help health, just plague yourself.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Rusland

Well, you can’t worry like that, buddy

is there reason to worry about me so?

[igorka357]

So will you answer about the quality of the Western Navy, so beloved by you? Or did you put shit on the bushes as well?

[Don]

how restless you are! why did you stick to a person? Everyone has enough problems, both with us and with them.

[Svarog]

Quote: LMN

Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

Inside, Russia is undermined by the ruling elite, which does nothing significant in order for Russia to flourish, engage in self-enrichment and PR, fostering patriotic feelings among the people, eating oysters on yachts.

[Don]

Quote: Svarog

they are engaged in self-enrichment and PR, heating up patriotic feelings among the people, eating oysters on yachts.

This is enough for a large number of our people. For those who watch the house-2 or other shows on Russia-1 and the first channel are not able to think. It will reach them only after retirement, but it will be too late.

[Serge Gorely]

Quote: Rusland

Slowly but surely we are doing what we need. And do not compare the incomparable, otherwise you’ll get your comment with a darling friend

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

What kind of buddy is that? Typical Belarusian ZMAGAR. In Ukraine, these creatures are called EVIDUALS.

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

Here are your comments are not inferior to Ukrainian, even though you succeeded in this!

[Observer2014]

BZTM

By that time......

-

[Tersky]

Quote: ul_vitalii

By that time, the adversaries would get used to the idea of ​​having this weapon.

Get used to course

[Arberes]

And I thought, death in line does not languish? I would like to know who the three of them are already expecting ?????????
Greetings, dear Tersky

[Tersky]

Quote: Arberes

Welcome

Have a nice one you too, !

Quote: Arberes

I would like to know who the three of them are already expecting ?????????

The order depends on who starts first and who answers. But they are waiting on both sides

[evil partisan]

Quote: Arberes

to know who the three of them are already expecting?

Elementary, Vova: Poroshenko and his two beavers.
Hello to pen and ink workers!

[Tersky]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Poroshenko and his two beavers.

, Wow, squirrels have already faded from Petya, he has drunk to beavers. Hello amateur networker

[evil partisan]

Quote: Tersky

from Petya the squirrels had already faded, he drank himself to beavers.

Evolution...

Quote: Tersky

amateur networker

Do not fall to the office! And then I'll start about poaching trunks ...
Hi, schukolyub!

[Arberes]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Poroshenko and his two beavers.

And I thought our national football team!
Hello OLD!

[NEXUS]

Quote: ul_vitalii

By that time, the adversaries would get used to the idea of ​​having this weapon.

By what time? The program from 2018 to 2027. And why did you decide that Poseidon enters the army in the year 27, given that he passed state tests? It can be 19 and 20, or 21.
The grain of the statement is that Poseidon is INCLUDED in the rearmament program. That is, if someone had doubts about whether Poseidon or this fake is finally dispersed. At the same time, I think there will be no official statement on the adoption of this drone. Quietly and silently they will be put on duty, and to whom it will be addressed, everyone will find out without headlines in the media.

[KERMET]

I remember we were armed with the Ka-50 ... It was so loud, still tinnitus

[NEXUS]

Quote: KERMET

I remember we were armed with the Ka-50 ..

He stood ... only in the amount of 50 pieces, with special units.

[Vadivak]

Quote: NEXUS

He stood.

And worth it. In service with the Torzhok Aviation Center. Like they said 20 pieces. And the troops had to go KA-52

[Orkraider]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: KERMET

I remember we were armed with the Ka-50 ..

He stood ... only in the amount of 50 pieces, with special units.

50 pieces were not. There were 12 sharks, of which about 6 remained.

[KERMET]

Where do you get such grass?
(I'm talking about 50 pieces)

[NEXUS]

Quote: KERMET

Where do you get such grass?
(I'm talking about 50 pieces)

Wrong ... but your ...

Quote: KERMET

I remember we were armed with the Ka-50 ... It was so loud, there is still tinnitus

It stood. Checked the data. It was 12, there were 6 cars left.

[KERMET]

Can I ask a question? What about the other 6?
As far as I know, at the beginning of production, the Ka-52 used a reserve of 9 "Sharks" that were only fuselages with a carrier system, gearboxes and engines. So it’s possible actually in service and 12 sides were not

[NEXUS]

Quote: KERMET

Can I ask a question? What about the other 6?

Since 2011, there are 6 machines in flight condition, which continue to serve only as training.

As far as I know, at the beginning of production, the Ka-52 used a backlog of 9 Sharks

Sharks of various modifications were built 15 cars. For example KA-50N (Night), KA-50Sh and so on ...

[BZTM]

I would like to share your joy, but step back modestly to the side ...........

[Hire]

Quote: BZTM

I would like to share your joy, but step back modestly to the side.

Aside to you, dear, the very place. Stand there.

[BZTM]

How sweet ... But there is something to say on the topic, or will you continue to spray your poison on people for the plus sign?

[Hire]

Quote: BZTM

you will spray on people and further for pluses?

What, sore subject, my dear? Are you looking at every "plus sign" with envy? Relax, enjoy the little.

[BZTM]

He didn’t answer, is there anything to say, my dear? The Russian Navy will receive Poseidon devices until 2027 ....
Well, lures with wit and deep knowledge ...

[Hire]

And who are you to ask me a topic for comments? Show first the depth of your knowledge, and I'll see if you are worth it to discuss serious topics with you. So far, except for pus and poison, nothing has spilled from you.

[BZTM]

But you shouldn’t poke, my dear, I didn’t help you graze pigs, follow the tongue, child ...

[Hire]

My dear, you started poking. When you finish grazing pigs, then come.

[BZTM]

Good night dove !!! Give yourself pluses, and you will be happy.

[Hire]

And you, dear, good night. Let you dream about the "pluses" all night.

[ul_vitalii]

I didn’t decide anything, this article decided "By then" may be 19, 23 , and the fact that we will not be the first to know about it, I agree with you.

[poquello]

Quote: ul_vitalii

I didn’t decide anything, this article decided "By then" may be 19, 23 , and the fact that we will not be the first to know about it, I agree with you.

but what's the difference, everything is clear from the article - there is already a prototype alive, they figured a convenient carrier - they’re doing

[Arberes]

"To whom this is addressed, everyone will find out without headlines in the media."

This will be the latest news for all of humanity!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: NEXUS

And why did you decide that Poseidon enters the army in the year 27, given that he passed state tests? It can be 19 and 20, or 21.

no, tomorrow will go into operation

Quote: NEXUS

That is, if someone had doubts about whether Poseidon or this fake is finally dispersed.

no, not scattered, promising does not mean getting married! we see how the fleet and army upgrade program is moaning - where are the ships, where are the bmp armored personnel carriers on the same platform? promised when? And nothing has changed! stay in pink glasses - DA Medvedev to help you!

[zhekazs]

Quote: Tiksi-3

no, not scattered, promising does not mean getting married! we see how the fleet and army upgrade program is moaning - where are the ships, where are the bmp armored personnel carriers on the same platform? promised when? And nothing has changed! stay in pink glasses - DA Medvedev to help you!

Well you, by golly! Read yesterday's article about the super-profit from rising oil prices. Part of the proceeds will be put into a barn, not without it, but it will add something to the state arms program and instead

several high-speed deep-sea torpedoes

we can see a slightly different figure and torpedoes and their carriers ...

[-ш-]

at least one adequate non-aching answer

[Tektor]

There is. We currently have at least two ships that can launch Poseidons. One of them is the submarine Sarov.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: NEXUS

And why did you decide that Poseidon enters the army in the year 27, given that he passed state tests? It can be 19 and 20, or 21.

All for the same reasons - from the words “sunshine” and commercials ... Here he is in 2018 broadcasting:

So far, we have seen the fulfillment of Medvedev’s previously announced appointment and support for the government’s course towards further "slavery" of the people. Do not believe? Look at the statistics of population growth in the Russian Federation ... Although ... What can a bunch of idiots who do not fit into the economic conditions of the market, who are not able to earn more than 11 rubles ... (from the words of Putin, Medvedev, Gref, Kudrin and some other narusovyh- Matvienko) to the great electorate in the amount of 163, 76% ...

[Vladimir Postnikov]

What kind of weapon? Take a look at the picture. There is a harpsichord drawn. And in the March cartoon in the silhouette of “Poseidon,” the Harpsichord was guessed. Look at this picture and compare it with the Harpsichord. Is this device able to develop the desired speed 50 or even 100 nodes? The speed of the "Harpsichord" is somewhere 3 node. Figure "Status" ("Canyon") is closer to reality, but this is only a drawing.
It is impossible to discuss what no one (from the commentators) saw, or which may simply not be. You can knock on the drums. You can not discuss.

[Tektor]

I am somewhat surprised at the boiling range, gevalt and azohenway raised by the "wits" above. However, no one can think, but how did the Poseidons pass the test if their carriers were only in 2027? ... The article says that the first production Poseidon is already on the stocks of Sevmash, and will be launched / released this year. Some do not even realize that the name Poseidon is understood as a variant of Status-6, with a megabomb. Such devices need exactly 6 pieces to completely destroy both coasts of the states. And each of the carrier submarines under construction has 6 Poseidons. Why 6 more? Just besides Poseidon and Harpsichord, there is also a Cephalopod, which is from Status- (1-5), and which does not carry a megabomb, but Caliber / Onyx / Zircon / Squall, etc. Here little is written about them. But there are, about which they do not write at all ...

[Nick]

Quote: ul_vitalii

By that time, the adversaries would get used to the idea of ​​having this weapon.

do not worry
The article indicates the time period from 18 to 27 year. The system can be adopted in the 18, 19, and 20 ... It is possible that it is already in service, adversaries need not know about it

[siberalt]

Promise what will happen in a hundred years, the national tradition of the Russian government. But what will change in Russia in a year is never guessed.

[AUL]

And when to expect the commissioning of this complex?

[Vadim237]

Rather, before him in service with the Navy, there are already a dozen torpedoes of the Status 6 complex

[Bad_santa]

If you decide to build, then there is already a small-sized nuclear installation for underwater carriers. The whole message of this news

[LMN]

Quote: Bad_Santa

If you decide to build, then there is already a small-sized nuclear installation for underwater carriers. The whole message of this news

But I’ve probably seen a little more in this news.
For example

The Poseidon system was included in the state armament program until 2027 and should be included in the Navy’s combat personnel by the end of the program.

Keyword: "system"

[zhekazs]

Quote: LMN

Keyword: "system"

In my opinion, more important

Quote: LMN

included in the state program armaments until 2027 and must be entered in combat

That is, the product, as part of the system, is already available in the form of samples that have undergone pilot testing, and now the question is of financing their production and ensuring the fleet.

[LMN]

Quote: zhekazs

Quote: LMN

Keyword: "system"

In my opinion, more important

Quote: LMN

included in the state program armaments until 2027 and must be entered in combat

That is, the product, as part of the system, is already available in the form of samples that have undergone pilot testing, and now the question is of financing their production and ensuring the fleet.

I agree. I actually meant it. By itself, a torpedo with a nuclear weapon is a separate product. But to create a SYSTEM in which this torpedo will be just a tip, it takes time

[Vadim237]

If they made a nuclear weapon for a cruise missile, then there will be no problems at all.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vadim237

Rather, before him in service with the Navy, there are already a dozen torpedoes of the Status 6 complex

There is wool in one place ... And shear on the knee. Everyone is trying to plan fat from those parts of the body that had “grandmother would be a grandfather.” (Putin’s joke )

[Vadim237]

With such "If" - you need to contact Ukraine, it is there with particular enthusiasm that they try to "Cut the fat" and make "From Grandmother to Grandfather."

[Greg Miller]

Very soon ..... unfortunately ...

[Solomon Kane]

"blessed is he who believes. Warmth to him in the world"
Phrase: "The Russian Navy will receive Poseidon devices before 2027 on a new medium ..." does not mean that Poseidon is no longer on the database, though the carrier is different .....

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Solomon Kane

Phrase: "The Russian Navy will receive Poseidon devices before 2027 on a new medium ..." does not mean that Poseidon is no longer on the database, though the carrier is different .....

the phrase about raising the retirement age does not mean that it is no longer raised in some regions

[Albert1988]

Quote: Tiksi-3

the phrase about raising the retirement age does not mean that it is no longer raised in some regions

I dare to inquire, and raising the retirement age is top-secret information, for the disclosure of which a time limit is set? That is, it’s like that in our country - he hit 60, he comes to an appropriate institution to apply for a pension, and they say to him: “By a secret decree of the President of the Russian Federation, such a retirement age in Russia has been raised to 65 years! Go and work another 5 years! Only this is completely secretly - sign papers on non-disclosure of this information even to members of your family! "
You yourself understood what an absurd comparison made?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Tiksi-3

the phrase about raising the retirement age does not mean that it is no longer raised in some regions

Moreover, I even know for which categories of deputies of the State Duma, Federation Council and officials this age has been officially increased ... That’s why poor fellows tirelessly work hard for the common good ...

[LMN]

Quote: Solomon Kane

"blessed is he who believes. Warmth to him in the world"
Phrase: "The Russian Navy will receive Poseidon devices before 2027 on a new medium ..." does not mean that Poseidon is no longer on the database, though the carrier is different .....

There is no such phrase in the news
You are already doing misinformation here

[Solomon Kane]

Read between the lines ..... In November 1941, when Hitler was standing near Moscow, Stalin said that he would fuck Berlin, no one believed him, and he fucked him after 3.5 years ......

[ZloiEzh]

Quote: Solomon Kane

Read between the lines ..... In November 1941, when Hitler was standing near Moscow, Stalin said that he would fuck Berlin, no one believed him, and he fucked him after 3.5 years ......

Fucked so fucked, losing 27 million people

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: ZloiEzh

Quote: Solomon Kane

Read between the lines ..... In November 1941, when Hitler was standing near Moscow, Stalin said that he would fuck Berlin, no one believed him, and he fucked him after 3.5 years ......

Fucked so fucked, losing 27 million people

So it was some unknown Stalin ... some petty official, and here - the great "Solntseliky" who built a house and continues to peretrahivayut the Russian people in such a way that he stopped reproducing and for more than a quarter of a century simply degrades to the joy of the elect ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Greg Miller

Very soon ..... unfortunately ...

Based on the message from your previous post, yours - "unfortunately" - is clearly not sincere.
Pierced in full.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from AUL

And when to expect the commissioning of this complex?

There, the problem is that they did not decide which coast to test on the east or west? And what wave height to drive, first 500 meters or just 1,5 km?

[Nick]

Quote from AUL

And when to expect the commissioning of this complex?

ALREADY...

[Mountain shooter]

It's amazing how they squeezed a megawatt-class engine into such dimensions. Due to the lack of biological protection? No crew, only electronics protected? Yes, neutron radiation will be absorbed by THICK water ... and tracing it along the radioactive trail is useless ...!

[Bad_santa]

Nuclear submarines also leave a radioactive trail, but they did not learn how to search for them in that trail.

[VALERIK_097]

And they won’t learn. The pulp and paper mill (biological defense tanks) can cope with this task by 5 points.
Spitting from the DC (drainage tank) into the propeller stream will also not show anything, everything is arranged cunningly there.

[Bad_santa]

A dog on the trail?

[KERMET]

Then shark, they say they have a good scent

[vladfill]

And why is there nothing in VO about the prospects for the 30-50s that is so interesting - will it be?

[Greg Miller]

There is ... a military base on the moon .... But seriously, with the current government, Putin’s current term will be the last not only for himself, but I’m afraid that for the whole of Russia ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Greg Miller

But seriously, with the current government, Putin’s current term will be the last not only for himself, but I’m afraid that for the whole of Russia ...

You are not tired of whining in every topic, go plant potatoes. And Lukashenko bow before bedtime

[Solomon Kane]

Sir, Romanov! Respect for your words!
12 years of oblivion of Russia in the Gobato-EBN period of economic and political cataclysms did not make our Shield weaker - no one canceled the Perimeter, the Guard and the Ghost ...
There are people in our country to whom we owe our security and independence, people with shoulder straps with a sense of duty and honor, guardians of the Russian land, Ilya of Murom and Yevpatia of Kolovraty of the 21st century .... And those HE complexes that were created in 70s ~ 80s are relevant until 2040-2050 ... at least.
As for the Status (Poseidon), for Greg Miller and other “sofa critics”, get acquainted with the capabilities of the project 667 nuclear submarines “Moscow Region” with the Losharik nuclear deep-sea station, the uninhabited autonomous apparatus “Klavesin-2P”, capable of moving 300 km from the carrier and dive for 6 km. Although this system has the signature stamp "top secret", part of the information leaked to the press.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Solomon Kane

There are people in our country to whom we owe our security and independence, people with shoulder straps with a sense of duty and honor, guardians of the Russian land ...

These or what?

[Don]

Quote: Solomon Kane

Sir, Romanov! Respect for your words!

not so you turn to him. At least "your holiness" is needed for this type

[VALERIK_097]

Solomon-catch:

[Don]

you are sitting here again Well, march to do homework!

[Vadim237]

Why not: a Wing, and Aircraft carriers, and Destroyers, and flights to the Moon and Mars, and the creation of an all-Russian missile defense system 2050.

[Greg Miller]

Do you really think that a bunch of offshore maggots, gutting Russia, is able to plan something for such a period?

[vladfill]

So that's why it doesn’t shoot what it is today .....

[LMN]

Quote: vladfill

And why is there nothing in VO about the prospects for the 30-50s that is so interesting - will it be?

Do you need Poseidon right now? If not a secret, then why?
What will Russia be able to do fundamentally new after the advent of Poseidon, which it cannot now?

Are you all looking to "bite" Putin?

[vladfill]

Road spoon for dinner. Need "Poseidon" and not chatter, chatter, chatter ....

[LMN]

Quote: vladfill

Road spoon for dinner. Need "Poseidon" and not chatter, chatter, chatter ....

You did not answer the question
"Why do you need him now?"

[spektr9]

Judging by the logic of things, then the armed forces are not needed, because no one is attacking us

[Bad_santa]

Poseidon is needed to connect to high-speed Internet lines at the bottom of the Atlantic. Send SMS to Odnoklassniki or write an urgent comment on VO

[LMN]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Poseidon is needed to connect to high-speed Internet lines at the bottom of the Atlantic. Send SMS to Odnoklassniki or write an urgent comment on VO

And "Losharik" then why?

[Bad_santa]

Right. Submariners already have a means of contacting family

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: LMN

Are you all looking to "bite" Putin?

Why bite him? They’ll lick it anyway ... He’s our everything ...

[evil partisan]

Why Poseidon? Why not the "Arctic fox"?

[Solomon Kane]

Something late you, my friend, with the name "woke up" .....

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Why Poseidon?

There was a vote. Most were for this name.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Why Poseidon? Why not the "Arctic fox"?

then the naval arctic fox

[zhekazs]

Quote: Vadivak

then the naval arctic fox

It would be nice to voice the power of this Arctic fox in TNT equivalent, many will be interested ..

[Solomon Kane]

100 million tons TNT ......... at one point ...

[KVU-NSVD]

It was rumbling, but have you now rumbled seriously or is it still with a share of irony? It’s just interesting from the point of view of _ which regiment "... of proclamators, throats, ringleaders .." arrived ..

[ul_vitalii]

What a fellow, they took and dumped, a collective rabble of "all world experts", but would you like to read your personal opinion or the brake is on and the training manual does not allow?

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

It was rumbling, but have you now rumbled seriously or is it still with a share of irony? It’s just interesting from the point of view of _ which regiment "... of proclamators, throats, ringleaders .." arrived ..

Victor, good evening It looks like the analyzer went to its "experts"

[Eduard petrov]

Quote: Analyzer

Well, what can I say, but there’s nothing to say, it’s just a system that DOES NOT HAVE ANALOGUES IN THE WORLD !!! Everyone is afraid of us and rightly doing, our military-industrial complex has reached such heights that the United States and the West have stomped for another 50-70 years. All this causes respect and pride in our great country. Russia is rising from its knees and all this thanks to V.V. To Putin. Never in the history of mankind has more than one state achieved such power as today's RUSSIA. What is not a day is another breakthrough in the military-industrial complex and this spurt is gaining momentum. Beware RUSSIAN go, parting, we are angry

Listen dear! NOBODY can mock OUR PRESIDENT! PUTIN Vladimir (who owns the world !!) and over our best weapon in the world our Kalashnikov and Katyusha guns were ours and we defeated everyone !! the Anglo-Lebiracles will never catch up with us in arms; they will only catch up with us. But PUTIN does not allow us to conquer! If it weren’t for the British, they would have taken all our drawings, and you would have worked for the American campaign for smelly dolars! You are not a patriot! PUTIN must rule forever !!

[Eduard petrov]

Quote: Analyzer

You did not tell me anything new, it is an obvious fact to everyone that nothing in the world and no one decides without V.V. PUTIN The West and the United States, of course, do not like this situation, but they must laugh, otherwise we will force them ... Russia is rising from its knees. Enough played enough in spools do not want to partner, well then we will force you ...

Listen! Stop it at last! I’m not stupid and I panic about your sorcasm. But do not do it. PUTIN we were sent to him a drunkard and America told us what to do and lent money and then forced to give back with interest do you even understand this ?? Now we are completely independent and this is only thanks to PUTIN! Do not speak badly about him and do not write. Better go work and earn money for yourself and don’t forget that Putin doesn’t know much, there are still ministers and they hide a lot. Kudrin and the others they all lie to him!

[zhekazs]

Quote: Eduard Petrov

PUTIN was sent to us a drunkard

Nevertheless, it is worth paying tribute to this drunkard that he transferred power to Putin, and not to Berezovsky. And about sent ... Yes, just a normal man came with a head and eggs ...

[Eduard petrov]

you have commented on your comment so you understood that I was right. I hope the admin bans you forever. You are not a patriot, but only insulting Putin and us. We are smart to understand what kind of America you're talking about. This is probably your house. And you get the vanishing dolars. You need to be banned more quickly. Get away better yourself from here understood?

[ZloiEzh]

noble troll

[ZloiEzh]

and the funny thing is, cheers patriots from this site do not even understand that this is trolling

[Don]

and they don’t need to understand, and they haven’t grown up to this

[A good one]

Quote: ZloiEzh

and the funny thing is, cheers patriots from this site do not even understand that this is trolling

Well, finally a miracle happened, the clouds dispersed, the smart girl on the site showed up

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Rusland

Slowly but surely we are doing what we need. And do not compare the incomparable, otherwise you’ll get your comment with a darling friend

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

Truth? And why then did “Rubezh” and “Barguzin”, so that at the very height, having spent a lot of forces and means, these works should be curtailed?

[LMN]

Quote: Greg Miller

Truth? And why then did “Rubezh” and “Barguzin”, so that at the very height, having spent a lot of forces and means, these works should be curtailed?

True. "Boundary" and "Barguzin", independent combat units.

The Poseidon system was included in the state armament program until 2027 and should be included in the Navy’s combat personnel by the end of the program.

"Poseidon" is system, including not only torpedoes with nuclear power plants.

[Bad_santa]

They want to create the fourth component of nuclear deterrence. The bulk of industry and cities are located on the coast of two oceans in the United States. To contain US military rhetoric, 5 Status-6 products will be enough.

[Greg Miller]

While the ruling elite in Russia keeps its capital in the West ....

[zhekazs]

Quote: Greg Miller

While the ruling elite in Russia keeps its capital in the West ....

And it was worth pulling out this dead wood ... And don’t talk about the Russian elite — those who keep the loot in the West are not the Russian elite. Fifth column, no more. Remember at last.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: zhekazs

And it was worth pulling this dohlyatin ...

Nate to you alive:

Putin: How did you uncover the Syrian Shell?
Netanyahu: He shot ...

[LMN]

Quote: Bad_Santa

They want to create the fourth component of nuclear deterrence. The bulk of industry and cities are located on the coast of two oceans in the United States. To contain US military rhetoric, 5 Status-6 products will be enough.

Possible.
But such things are not done in a couple of months.

[Muvka]

The discharge of Status-6 was back in the year 15. Almost 3 years have passed since the discharge of the information and it is not known how much time it was developed before.

[Bad_santa]

You can consider the news about Poseidon a sink according to Status-6. Perhaps this is the same product. At least from this news you can find out - a small-sized nuclear installation has been created. And the presence of this installation in Poseidon indicates a serious torpedo range. It is pointless to use Poseidon against surface forces, since the radius of the torpedo is several times larger than the radius of detection of the submarine. So definitely Poseidon will hit stationary targets, and this by itself is only an edge. So all the possibilities of Poseidon and Status-6 completely coincide

[Bad_santa]

Yes, and if you install a nuclear charge on these carriers (which is probably the simplest thing in these products), then an inertial guidance system is quite suitable as navigation. For sure America will not miss)))

[Don]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Yes, and if you install a nuclear charge on these carriers (which is probably the simplest thing in these products), then an inertial guidance system is quite suitable as navigation. For sure America will not miss)))

put this inertial guidance in your car, and in Poseidon there will be a guidance that is not analogous to the world, guided by the speed of expansion of our universe from the big bang and the distance of galaxies from each other. This system is still top secret and therefore cannot be voiced.
I warn you in advance that if you decide to scold me and our great president, whom we have recently chosen again, the universal coordinates of your house will be entered into the Poseidon guidance system

[A good one]

Quote: Greg Miller

Quote: Rusland

Slowly but surely we are doing what we need. And do not compare the incomparable, otherwise you’ll get your comment with a darling friend

Quote: Greg Miller

Yeah .... In terms of such promises, Russia is inferior only to Ukraine ...

Truth? And why then did “Rubezh” and “Barguzin”, so that at the very height, having spent a lot of forces and means, these works should be curtailed?

What a tedious thing, what, why, and why, but I can’t even think about it myself?

[Bad_santa]

Probably because the US is creating a global missile defense system. The most interesting thing is not that it will be able to bring down ICBMs (with a probability of 0001%), but that this idea of ​​missile defense creates an image of complete protection of the US territory from a missile strike from Russia. A paradoxical situation arises when weapons are expensive, ineffective, cannot intimidate the enemy, but can only create a myth of invulnerability. So all the movements with the modernization of ICBMs are aimed at an informative field rather than a purely practical one. So even one Status-6 product on combat duty breaks the myth of invulnerability and nullifies the entire missile defense system. The main thing is not to publish anything about this product, but wait until the Americans continue to finance their global missile defense. Let them spend money. Then, with one piece of news, you can send hundreds of billions of wasted dollars to an already useless missile defense in one second. Enough excerpts from our leadership

[sustav75]

It would be reported that the carriers of the new nuclear apparatus would be live whales and killer whales, trained and nourished personally by V.V.P. in the Crimean dolphinarium!

[Bad_santa]

And with a tattoo on its side in the form of an anchor. Especially trained and dangerous with domes on the chest

[Don]

how did you find top-secret information? so you probably know about establishing a connection between our new leader and aliens?

[sustav75]

Quote: LMN

Quote: vladfill

And why is there nothing in VO about the prospects for the 30-50s that is so interesting - will it be?

Do you need Poseidon right now? If not a secret, then why?
What will Russia be able to do fundamentally new after the advent of Poseidon, which it cannot now?

Are you all looking to "bite" Putin?

You just need to chat with your tongue less! I used to think that military people are people of the word! Wrong! Like in the market! Worse women! Blah blah blah! Or our generals are waiting for the war, to put women and children at the machine tools, as in the 41st! And then he goes to the mountain!

[Eduard petrov]

Quote: sustav75

Quote: LMN

Quote: vladfill

And why is there nothing in VO about the prospects for the 30-50s that is so interesting - will it be?

Do you need Poseidon right now? If not a secret, then why?
What will Russia be able to do fundamentally new after the advent of Poseidon, which it cannot now?

Are you all looking to "bite" Putin?

You just need to chat with your tongue less! I used to think that military people are people of the word! Wrong! Like in the market! Worse women! Blah blah blah! Or our generals are waiting for the war, to put women and children at the machine tools, as in the 41st! And then he goes to the mountain!

This will be deleted.

[LMN]

Quote: sustav75

Quote: LMN

Quote: vladfill

And why is there nothing in VO about the prospects for the 30-50s that is so interesting - will it be?

Do you need Poseidon right now? If not a secret, then why?
What will Russia be able to do fundamentally new after the advent of Poseidon, which it cannot now?

Are you all looking to "bite" Putin?

You just need to chat with your tongue less! I used to think that military people are people of the word! Wrong! Like in the market! Worse women! Blah blah blah! Or our generals are waiting for the war, to put women and children at the machine tools, as in the 41st! And then he goes to the mountain!

Our generals talk less than others. Moreover, you yourself are unhappy with the lack of information.
They are silent, nagging begins: they are hiding something, there is nothing to say, the Russian Federation was silent again ..
They begin to speak, to create briefings: Yes they lie, where is the evidence, only blah, blah, blah ..

You are all and always unhappy .. this President cannot be corrected alas

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Analyzer

I didn’t understand what kind of irony you are, do you doubt my assessments in the assessments of world-renowned experts ???? or do you consider yourself educated enough to be so lenient with a student to speak with an unknown specialist!

Are you here to troll? They heard you, they gave an assessment of your efforts, you don’t pull the medal, no sensations are expected from this.

[gabonskijfront]

coastal missile batteries sweep through the seas, satellites control every movement, robotic strike systems are ready to cover you from above, and unmanned nuclear vehicles are ready to open your belly under water as soon as possible. There is no romanticism in the oceans. Where to go, fast frigates, proud cruisers and mighty aircraft carriers. Soon there will be no calls to foreign harbors, pogroms of taverns and fights due to port whores. Sadly.

[Vadivak]

Quote: gabonskijfront

pogroms of taverns and fights because of port whores.

He treated port cats with tart rum
Cats melted, looked and sighed.

[Bad_santa]

Thousand devils! Yes, even for an honest duel, there are no worthy ones left!

[san4es]

reloaded on special project 09852, it will become a carrier of uninhabited and inhabited deep-sea research vehicles.

..pr. 09852
KS-139 "Belgorod"
Research Nuclear Submarine / Special Purpose Nuclear Submarine (PLASN). The carrier boat was developed on the basis of the SSBN pr.949A TsKB MT "Rubin" by order of the GUGI of the Russian Navy. The carrier submarine for rescue deep-sea inhabited and autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles is designed to conduct diverse scientific research in remote areas of the ocean, and to participate in search and rescue operations. Also, the submarine will provide both the installation of various underwater equipment and its inspection, participate in the testing of new types of scientific research equipment, and monitor underwater transportation routes. .

As of the beginning of 2015, there were several versions of the purpose of the new launch boat:
1. The official version is that the carrier boat will carry one or more manned deep-sea rescue vehicles and several autonomous unmanned vehicles. The latter are likely to be located at the site of missile launchers of SSGN 949A.
2. Hypothetical version - the carrier boat will carry a nuclear deep-sea station of the type pr.10831 or the type of prospective pr.18510M. It is possible that in this case, a watch will be installed in the PLASN case in the niche of which the means of docking and servicing the wearable AGS will be placed.
3. The submarine will be the carrier of the Magma dual-use complex (see below).
As a result, judging by everything (autumn 2015), PLASN is the carrier of the AGS of various projects (paragraph 2 of the list).
Construction - The PLA has a classic two-hull design with a strong and lightweight permeable hull. With a high probability, a special compartment will be built into the full-time submarine hull to perform the boat's target functions ....

Hypothetical layout options PLASN pr.09852 Belgorod. The upper version - with rescue underwater vehicles of the Bester type. The lower version is the carrier boat AGS pr.10831 "Losharik"

The project of converting SSBN pr.949 into an underwater cable vessel - for laying a cable under water, 1990s, Central Design Bureau MT Rubin
Armament:
Torpedo tubes (product "24") for the order of the head. No. 664 worth 140,973 million rubles. ordered by JSC Krasnoe Sormovo Plant under contract No. 5807/28297 of 01.07.2014/140,973/XNUMX, the cost is XNUMX million rubles. (source).
SPMBM Malakhit OJSC, under the contract No. 4/15/8992/30428 of February 13.02.2015, 09852, updates the design documentation and technical support of the engineering products of the torpedo-missile complex used on the order of project 2018 (maintenance since 10,728) in the amount of 31502271944 million rubles, purchase of Sevmash OJSC No. XNUMX (source).

Probably 2P39 launchers (4 sets of parts and spare parts sets according to statement 09852.360278.021, cost - 708,2 million rubles) are made
OJSC Perm Plant Mashinostroitel (part of the military-industrial complex NPO Mashinostroyeniya) under contract No. 390/5807/29916 dated 20.08.2014/2/39. Technical support for the manufacture of elements of the product 4,3PXNUMX (cost - XNUMX million rubles) will be carried out by JSC GREC Makeeva ”by order of OJSC Perm Plant Mashinostroitel

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-708.html

[VALERIK_097]

Useful information, but judging by the figure (not the fact that it will), they threw out the towed antenna, shoved the “product”, with a minimum of alterations.

[san4es]

Quote: VALERIK_097

..not the fact that it will be so ...

... In the public domain, everything is so ... but sometimes, there are hints (who will understand )

... The story of the supposedly random "flare" of plans for a new secret type of nuclear weapon - the underwater autonomous (that is, not human-controlled) torpedoes of the Status-6 project plowed the Western world and became almost the main news for several days. Most of the largest and most respected publications in English-speaking countries were filled with publications on this subject and numerous expert comments.
http://foto-i-mir.ru/2015/11/13/сверхсекретный-пр
oekt- "status-6" -ap /

... Another nuclear submarine for special purposes "Khabarovsk" was laid down in July 2014. According to unconfirmed reports, the submarine is being built according to project 09851 and can act as a carrier of both various deep-sea vehicles and the new weapons system.

[mechanicus]

Their carrier will be an atomic submarine under construction at Sevmash. Apparently how to build a ship, that’s the system. I think they will not report on the exact dates for putting this system into operation on the pages of this resource. Estimated deadlines indicated and enough. Our president is still some kind of balabol. And without Poseidon, it’s enough than to unpleasantly surprise or, let’s say, it is guaranteed to deliver the product to its place. Just do not really want to make sure of all this

[Ivan Tarava]

Why was this farce coming up with a name for people on the mine defense website?

[A good one]

More for the adversary the whole performance, but the people only need it. Fervor, fun and frustration, as in your case.

[Cossack 471]

Today, the next bureaucrat was taken for Faberge, and as they usually do. found a free billion rubles in cash. Here they are, money somewhere!

[LMN]

Quote: Ivan Tarava

Why was this farce coming up with a name for people on the mine defense website?

So that people can feel involvement (those who do not realize their involvement without it)

[net0103net]

And they said - already exists, but it turns out that it will be, but not now. I almost proposed the very first name, and now I don’t like it anymore ...

[Observer2014]

I’m reading the news. Comments. And I come to the conclusion that everything is going according to plan. Very early on we created Poseidon. The Americans have no protection whatsoever. Here we put off until 27 years. There are no world conspiracies?. And Putin is still not Looking for common ground with Americans? Nu-nu. Everything goes according to plan. And our life on the verge of this is probably by accident

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Observer2014

"Poseidon." Americans have no protection whatsoever against him

Each time with such a manifestation of optimism, a joke is recalled, where the monkey at the end of the "story" grabs his head and exclaims: Oh, pi ... rejoice! Oh, pi ... rejoicing! "

[flicker]

The Russian Navy will receive Poseidon vehicles until 2027

Even if, in fact, Poseidon would have been already in service with us, it would still have to be said that it would only be by 2027.

[Vadim237]

But there is Klavisin 2 - very similar to Poseidon

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vadim237

Harpsichord

He is not a "Vesin", but a "Vesin". Although hanging

[Vadim237]

It's time for you to take Motherwort and Valerian

[CAT BAIYUN]

I read the comments .... It's funny, but the sharper the topic for our sworn partners, the more screams from the paid liberoids and tolerasts.
And here it is - well, straight spray of saliva in 33 streams, not counting the fine spray ...
The reason, in general, is understandable: no matter what time frame Russia declares in the media, the true timing of placement on the database and specific technological solutions will be known only to a narrow circle of people. And all the screams ... Leave, gentlemen ...
The Russian Federation has it, but the West does not. IT pleases me.
The command arrived: "Dead end, voice!"
Bark, you're at work ....

[izja]

Quote: zhekazs

Quote: Greg Miller

While the ruling elite in Russia keeps its capital in the West ....

And it was worth pulling out this dead wood ... And don’t talk about the Russian elite — those who keep the loot in the West are not the Russian elite. Fifth column, no more. Remember at last.

That's right, the elite sits in rubles :) and cries from the beggars who are fighting on the forum.

[Secretparadox]

New does not mean good. Even if we omit doubts about whether they really fit into the program until 2027 or if it will be another long-term construction, it is unclear whether it is necessary at all, because no real performance characteristics have yet been announced. It is possible that this is just a way to drank dough, so there is too little information to draw any conclusions.

[gig334]

Promises are no longer rolling, everyone is full. Another blah blah on once there.

[Vadim237]

Why are the promises here is your Poseidon - at work

[Zomanus]

Well, it was clear that those samples of mega-weapons,
whatever would be voiced by Putin on 1 of March
1) part of the election campaign
2) A warning to foreign hotheads.
The same "Dagger", not the fact that they do not carry models.

[Voyager]

It depends on where. At the parade, you can layouts. And on an experienced combat duty, it is unlikely that they carry models.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: LMN

Apparently one of the programs to undermine Russia from within

apparently tired of removing noodles from the ears - this applies to everything that they promise and never do - hundreds of examples!

Well, on the other hand, separate urinals are not tired of doing empty_brihst_vom!

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Zomanus

Well, it was clear that those samples of mega-weapons,
whatever would be voiced by Putin on 1 of March
1) part of the election campaign
2) A warning to foreign hotheads.
The same "Dagger", not the fact that they do not carry models.

Reading these comments, you begin to suspect that the forum has direct broadcasting from Chamber N6!

[sib.ataman]

Quote: SecretParadox

New does not mean good. Even if we omit doubts about whether they really fit into the program until 2027 or if it will be another long-term construction, it is unclear whether it is necessary at all, because no real performance characteristics have yet been announced. It is possible that this is just a way to drank dough, so there is too little information to draw any conclusions.

Can I immediately send an application for all information with the attached diagrams and drawings, parameters, characteristics of the materials used directly to the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? At least for any inconsistencies there will be someone to demand a report from!

[Nikolaevich I]

1. Well, I don’t like the name "Poseidon"! Too it is banal, "worn out"! Yes, and the Americans have "Poseidons" ... and "Neptunes"! To me, the Kraken is prettier ... you can also do something else ... like ,, Undead "... or something else from ancient Slavic mythology ....
2. Well, I just can’t "get into" that these underwater "drones" are "miracle weapons"! None of the emerging "evidence", in my opinion, is satisfactory! Yes, these units, especially with nuclear power plants, can significantly increase the combat power of the Russian Navy ... with the right well-thought-out concept of use ... But by any means, it won’t “become” a “strategic super weapon”, “wunderwafer.” Attempts to prove the opposite, in my opinion, are not convincing .

[Old26]

Quote: NEXUS

By what time? The program from 2018 to 2027. And why did you decide that Poseidon enters the army in the year 27, given that he passed state tests? It can be 19 and 20, or 21

I would be grateful to you if you said when, where from which device (ship or boat) such tests were carried out. Otherwise, we will become like the Americans with their expression that "we have facts, but we won’t tell you about them, because they are secret"
The description of "Poseidon" (or "Status-6, no difference) only figures. There are many, many questions related to the possible action of these devices. The cartoon generally shows" Harpsichord "with a speed of 2,5 knots and with a range of 50 kilometers. We can’t imagine anything in iron yet, but the adversary is no longer afraid to show his version

You see, Andrey! And we and our adversary are monitoring the trials of, let’s say, key, key weapon systems and technologies. Here, for example, problems arose with our "9M729 product." They recorded both testing and deployment, as they claim. But these super-wunderwaffe, which they only talk about - silence about them. No one recorded, even a single test. “Zircon” - fixed, X-32 - fixed, “Frontier” and “Vanguard” - fixed. Everything else is not. This makes us wonder if it is time to arrange the production of caps with three visors (side - so that noodles are not hung on the ears). I understand, I want to believe that we are ahead of the rest in all branches of science and technology. Do you believe it yourself? After the failure of the 90s, after financing according to the residual principle of classical science ???

Quote: NEXUS

The grain of the statement is that Poseidon is INCLUDED in the rearmament program. That is, if someone had doubts about whether Poseidon or this fake is finally dispersed. At the same time, I think there will be no official statement on the adoption of this drone. Quietly and silently they will be put on duty, and to whom it will be addressed, everyone will find out without headlines in the media.

Until recently, the Barguzin paper complex and the Rubezh almost ready for deployment were included in the weapons program. Both turned on and off. Therefore, doubts of thinking people always remain, because people are able to analyze, compare, correlate with known problems ...

Quote: NEXUS

Sharks of various modifications were built 15 cars. For example KA-50N (Night), KA-50Sh and so on ...

19

Quote: Tektor

There is. We currently have at least two ships that can launch Poseidons. One of them is the submarine Sarov.

No. The diameter of the experimental launcher in the bow of the Sarov is about 1 meter (this device was used to test the Skif rocket. The diameter of the Poseidon. According to evil tongues - 1,6 meters

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It's amazing how they squeezed a megawatt-class engine into such dimensions. Due to the lack of biological protection? No crew, only electronics protected? Yes, neutron radiation will be absorbed by THICK water ... and tracing it along the radioactive trail is useless ...!

Especially when you consider that from the words of "experts" the entire control unit will be between the "hammer and the hard place". At the front is a charge, as evil tongues say at 20, 50, or even 100 megatons - at the back is a nuclear reactor without bioprotection. Do we already have such resistant electronics started? What, then, are radiation-resistant microchips for space we buy abroad ???
I’m no longer asking what the obstacle detection system in the nose of this torpedo with an antenna array of 1,5 meters will look like and how radiation will act on it, not to mention how the SPI will work when every hour of movement is to give a definite error and what error in the end result this unit will come out after almost 60 hours of movement. I no longer ask questions how well this torpedo, traveling at a speed of 100 knots, will be heard. And many more very unpleasant questions ..

Quote: LMN

Quote: Ivan Tarava

Why was this farce coming up with a name for people on the mine defense website?

So that people can feel involvement (those who do not realize their involvement without it)

And not only this. There was something to keep people busy between March 1 and 18. And so wherever you go, this is the only discussion, even women who are very far from all this

[Anchonsha]

Great news, our Navy is becoming more and more powerful in ultra-precise weapons.