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"Little boys play cubes, and Medvedev played the country"

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"Little boys play cubes, and Medvedev played the country"

Permanent experts KM.RU summed up the stay of Dmitry Medvedev as president of the Russian Federation

It is unlikely that the definition of “presidential term” ever caused similarly ambiguous associations. Indeed, on the move you cannot figure out what the four years spent in the Kremlin for Dmitriy Medvedev turned out to be more like punishment or evidence of unlimited trust on the part of the predecessor. The most popular version: from 2008 to 2012. Dmitry Anatolyevich conscientiously performed the duty of "locum tenens".

And it doesn't even matter at all who Dmitri Anatolyevich himself saw. It may very well be that he considered himself a full-fledged president, and his predecessor, Vladimir Vladimirovich, - the prime minister and nothing more. True, in the presidential-parliamentary republics, it has been established that the prime ministers are being removed for unsuitable work of the government they govern. Vladimir Putin himself during the first two terms of his reign, the prime ministers changed, as I recall, a little less than the items of the upper wardrobe. But after all, Putin’s government under Medvedev was a favorite target of criticism, and certainly no less than the previous ones. But happy is the minister who had the opportunity to work under President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin: I don’t want better stability.

The years of Dmitry Medvedev’s presidency evoke more likely comic etudes — amusing performances that are somewhat desperately like Ostap Bender’s speeches about New Vasyuki and helping poor children. And at the same time, you understand, with even a slight annoyance: no, Dmitry Anatolyevich is not pulling at Ostap. He is more ingenuous, perhaps, and, it seems, sincerely believes in the stated theses, which are so similar to the decorative furniture of the restored Bolshoi Theater: bronze in appearance, and you touch it with your finger - papier-mâché. Perhaps the Bolshoi Theater itself, which acquired a new life just under Dmitry Medvedev, can in fact be considered a metaphor of his rule? Beautiful facade, external grandeur, big money, gone to a magnificent fairy tale, and ... papier-mâché at the exit.

In a conversation with a KM.RU columnist, the portal’s permanent experts presented their assessments of Dmitry Medvedev’s activities as president of the Russian Federation.

Leading expert of the political conjuncture center, political scientist Pavel Salin:

- Speaking as a whole, it was, in fact, the “third term” of President Vladimir Putin, and all the policies that were carried out earlier, all the pros and cons of the two previous real Putin terms — all this automatically continued on Medvedev’s conditional-presidential term. On the one hand, the Kremlin pursued a socially responsible policy, which was especially important during the crisis. Incomes of Russian citizens did not fall as much as in most Western countries. But the flow of "Putin's stability" to stagnation continued. That is, the sign from the plus inevitably changed to a minus: all the shortcomings of the previous Putin's rule, which at the beginning of the 2000s had not yet been felt so strongly, were gaining momentum — corruption, decay of the everyday state, decomposition of police work, education

Thus, I would not greatly distinguish the presidency of Medvedev from the previous presidency of Putin. Now there may be some illusion that during the time of Medvedev's rule something has changed a lot. In fact, this is not so: the attitude of society towards the pros and cons has changed. If the former began to be taken for granted, then the most public attention began to concentrate on the negatives, which ultimately led to an increase in protest activity.

- Do you think Medvedev did not want to finally get out of the shadow of Putin?

- He wanted this himself. Of course, his own environment was also pushing him to the same, but Putin is still quite an experienced politician: he picked up a rather weak candidate a priori, who was clearly calculated from a psychological point of view and realized that this person was not capable of independent play. Dmitry Anatolyevich, of course, tried to play an independent game, but he was quickly lowered from heaven to earth. Initially, apparently, it was supposed to leave Dmitry Medvedev for a second presidential term, but when the time came to decide the fundamental question of who will be nominated for president in 2012, Putin’s entourage began to tough Medvedev. This lasted roughly from August to the very historic day of September 24. Thus, Putin chose the ideal candidate in 2008 for maintaining his own power.

Director of the Ukrainian branch of the Institute of CIS countries Vladimir Kornilov:

- Honestly, I was originally a critic of the very idea of ​​a tandem, saying that Russia rarely endured two kings. And thank God that now everything ends this way (if it ends, of course). In my opinion, the idea of ​​the tandem concealed significant risks for the Russian statehood, and the last years of Medvedev’s government once again confirmed this. I will not say that Medvedev made some breakthroughs. All that he will remember for the Russians as president is the renaming of the police into the police and games with time. In principle, if we recall any other actions, "reforms", then mostly Medvedev will be remembered by the inhabitants of Russia by just this. Therefore, it is not worth judging how successful he was president.

- The fact that Dmitry Medvedev did not become completely independent under Putin is rather a plus or a minus for the country?

“Considering exactly which decisions Medvedev took clearly on his own — reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs or initiatives to cancel the transition to winter time — this is more likely a blessing ...”

Director of the Institute for Problems of Globalization, Doctor of Economic Sciences Mikhail Delyagin:

- For Dmitry Medvedev, it was four years of joke and banter, when a person enjoyed life, listened to Deep Purple, amused himself with tweeters and iPods ... The boy came to toys. The little boys play cubes, and he played the country. It was a happy time for him, he felt like a great man. He really made decisions once - during the war in South Ossetia, and we must pay tribute, these decisions were absolutely correct. If Medvedev had behaved in the same way as he had behaved for two or three days during the war with Georgia for four years, there would have been no price for him. But, unfortunately, it was only during those days that he remembered that he had a certain responsibility towards people.

And for the country it was a time of unfulfilled hopes. In our country live gullible people. There are people who will show your finger - they begin to cry, laugh, scream. And you will show someone a finger - he immediately begins to believe in a bright future. People once again believed, and they were cruelly deceived once again. And Medvedev it goes around comes around. Russian people can be beaten, but you can not deceive. We remember this. We can forgive anything but cynical deception. That is why Stalin is a hero for us, and Chubais is a bastard. And Medvedev was in the same company with Chubais.
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  1. PatriotizTAT
    PatriotizTAT 5 May 2012 11: 07
    +39
    Supporters of Putin, Medvedev and the like ... answer me 1 question why put Serdyukov the furniture maker for the post of Ministry of Defense .... well, Fursenko there too !!!
    If you do not have an answer, then this is a huge crack in your position! Do they really want to steal, And Serdyukov is certainly not to blame for Putin and Medvedev .... but Serdyukov, I also have no answer, but I did not rank them among the saints "!!! recourse
    1. Col.
      Col. 5 May 2012 11: 11
      +11
      Quote: PatriotizTAT
      why put Serdyukov the furniture maker to the post of the Ministry of Defense ....

      Because in childhood he did not play enough of soldiers.
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 5 May 2012 14: 26
        +15
        "There is no limit to Dima's joy!
        Uncle Volodya is replacing!
        You can now get the phone.
        Now they have more time to play!

        Games in the country are tired of the child.
        It’s better to cover your head under a diaper!
        Get a pacifier, and take a breath to say:
        HERE IT IS HAPPINESS THAT! so your ..... be! "
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 5 May 2012 11: 14
      +6
      PatriotizTAT, the new cabinet has not yet been formed, and therefore, let's not raise a srach on the topic of appointments, we will have time to do this in fact in the near future smile
      I remember the LADIES when he went "peddling" with Putin on the Libyan issue, maybe he felt himself independent, the result of Libya in ..ne, Libyan oil is pumped by amerovskie companies. Fortunately, after this demonstration performance, he no longer "openly" went against the GDP wink
      1. snek
        snek 5 May 2012 11: 22
        +15
        Quote: Aleksey67
        I remember the LADY when he went "peddling" with Putin on the Libyan issue, maybe he felt independent

        Do you really believe in one and a half actor in this theater?
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 5 May 2012 11: 29
          +20
          Quote: snek
          Do you really believe in one and a half actor in this theater?


          The Americans and the EU are not stupid, but they felt a "breakdown" in tandem and began to "gag" the LADY together, inviting them to different forums, they drove the iPhone (unlocked), etc. at the same time, an international campaign against GDP began. It was all very clear. winked
          1. Winter
            Winter 5 May 2012 12: 39
            +13
            And how he liked to be in charge !!! Well lit up all!
            1. Drednout
              Drednout 5 May 2012 15: 28
              +5
              Quote: Winter
              And how he liked to be in charge !!! Well lit up all!

              Well, so much your GDP ... Impressions not to occupy. But others are much worse, that’s the trouble.
              1. esaul
                esaul 5 May 2012 17: 35
                +1
                Quote: Drednout
                Well, so much your GDP ... Impressions not to occupy

                It is possible for him to linger. What he has achieved to others is far from being capable of. Here is the opinion about Putin in the online edition:
                "Putin is a fighter of a different kind. For those who have not yet understood, it is necessary to clarify that this is a very restrained politician, with a delicately calibrated position. He does not stoop to any leaks, he speaks very weighty and on time. It is safe to say that modern politics is phenomenon.
                No other state in the world today has such a competent, restrained and wise leader. It is possible to some extent only to compare with him the Chinese chairman of the CPC Hu-Jintao. However, in all fairness, it should be noted that Chairman Hu is still in the wake of Russian politics, and Putin is undoubtedly the flagship. "

                Rejoice at the guys that he, and not inert mossiness and not a creative creator in power. It is not yet known whether you could now click on the clave, if not for the years of Putin and DAM.
                1. Kievan
                  Kievan 5 May 2012 18: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: esaul
                  However, in fairness, it should be noted that Chairman Hu is still in the wake of Russian politics, and Putin, without a doubt, is the flagship.

                  But the Chinese don’t know ... that their raw material base and market is the flagship. Maybe Putin taught the Chinese how to conduct economic reforms, develop domestic production and infrastructure, as well as fight corruption?
                  Quote: esaul
                  It is not yet known whether you could now click on the clave, if not for the years of Putin and DAM.

                  Winter has passed, summer has come. Thanks to Putin for this laughing
                  1. Nick
                    Nick 5 May 2012 19: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: Kievite
                    Winter has passed, summer has come. Thanks to Putin for this

                    Plagiarism! I heard this joke in 80's. Winter has passed, summer has come. Thanks to the Party for this. You just replaced one word.
                    And the article is crappy. With rot.
                    1. Aleksey67
                      Aleksey67 5 May 2012 19: 57
                      +13
                      Quote: Nick
                      Winter has passed, summer has come. Thanks to the Party for this.


                      I liked it more
                      If the girl in bed is nice and hot,
                      This is a personal merit of Leonid Ilyich. smile
                      1. Nick
                        Nick 5 May 2012 22: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Aleksey67
                        I liked it more. If the girl in bed is nice and hot, This is a personal merit of Leonid Ilyich.

                        But I hear this for the first time. Thumbs up.
                      2. Aleksey67
                        Aleksey67 5 May 2012 22: 15
                        +7
                        Quote: Nick
                        But I hear this for the first time. Thumbs up.


                        Well then a little more

                        On the outskirts of the village, the nightingale had a rook,
                        but this is the merit of Leonid Ilyich

                        If a girl is lazy and in bed like a log
                        you don't sleep with her guys this girl r ... oh

                        This is from the distant 80s. I still lived in the Volga region by ear. The Soviet people knew how to laugh at their leaders smile
                      3. gojesi
                        gojesi 5 May 2012 22: 55
                        +8
                        Quote: Nick
                        But I hear this for the first time. Thumbs up.

                        and here also enjoy love

                        The cat left the kittens. This is Putin's fault.
                        The mistress left the bunny. Guilty, guess! ??
                        Here comes the board of the poor bull.
                        Our Tanya is crying loudly. Near Putin, not otherwise.
                        The light went out, the fence fell, the car stalled at the car,
                        A healthy tooth was removed, or a thief climbed into the apartment,
                        I did not like the movie, you stepped in shit.
                        Any cataclysm has one explanation:
                        Every democrat knows, Putin is to blame!
                2. cool.cube2012
                  cool.cube2012 5 May 2012 22: 25
                  +9
                  esaul you already got it is not necessary to consider us idiots. Subtlety is not a masculine trait and Putin will not make you a marshal.
                  1. Aleksey67
                    Aleksey67 5 May 2012 22: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: cool.cube2012
                    you already got it; don’t take us idiots. Subtlety is not a masculine trait


                    I will answer, because you wrote to the person not in a personal, but dooming your post for public discussion. I do not know what goals you pursued by publishing this post, but for me you became "not handshake". am Different people have a different manner of communication, this is natural, but in my memory the esaul has never insulted anyone, and for me it is a FACT, and you appeared out of nowhere and immediately OFFENSE just a complete ZERO. I don't even put "-" on you, because YOU are ZERO, which means NOTHING, and I do not want to exchange for ZEROs
                    1. gojesi
                      gojesi 6 May 2012 04: 00
                      +4
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      You wrote to the person not in a personal, but dooming your post to public discussion. I do not know what goals you pursued by publishing this post, but for me you became "not handshake"

                      In my opinion, there is a place to be an ordinary misunderstanding or confusion. I call it - a feature of communication of unfamiliar adults on the site! We all have our own well-established psycho-physics, well-established stable or not very personal characters, let's make a discount, "adjust to the wind", so Sergei "Sniper" I think will support me! We are all united by love for our Motherland and joy for it! Why do we, like-minded people, also quarrel?
                      Alexey, I think that "Newbie" simply does not know anything about "PM"!
                    2. late
                      late 7 May 2012 23: 41
                      -2
                      Respect for the answer!
                    3. cool.cube2012
                      cool.cube2012 11 May 2012 13: 38
                      +2
                      Aleksey67 And for me, those who are in the service of this criminal Jewish regime are shaking hands. When men adore and admire another man, I mean Putin, it looks very strange to me. Women should be admired and loved.
                  2. Sniper 1968
                    Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 23: 01
                    +6
                    cool.cube2012,
                    cool dice, you messed up the pedals. Here the ADEQUATE people gather for the most part. And you are rude. Not good, cool dice 2012 ... sad sad sad No. No. fool request
                  3. Odinplys
                    Odinplys 7 May 2012 06: 35
                    -1
                    Quote: cool.cube2012
                    esaul you already got it is not necessary to consider us idiots. Subtlety is not a masculine trait and Putin will not make you a marshal.


                    Why won't he ... he made me personally ... He brought confidence to the souls of the majority of Russians ... stopped the destruction and plunder of Russia ... managed to turn the tide in Chechnya ... Ossetia ... Abkhazia ... Confident rearmament is underway armies ... the standard of living is rising throughout Russia ... The world's "elite is considered to be Russia's opinion ... The customs union is gaining strength ... it enables each of the Russians to be involved in these great changes ... and to feel like a master their country ... And this is above any titles and awards ...
                    Therefore, I think it’s you who sneaks ... to your swampy owners ...
                    And I sincerely ... proud ... that in Russia there is such a President ...

                    1. 443190
                      443190 9 May 2012 00: 58
                      +3
                      Alas, but Marshal you only in your dreams .... And only virtually .... But in reality you are only cannon fodder !!! No offense.
                  4. late
                    late 7 May 2012 23: 40
                    -2
                    A connoisseur of male traits, I'm sorry, but you do not become a marshal! sad
                    1. cool.cube2012
                      cool.cube2012 11 May 2012 16: 30
                      +2
                      What does the foreman dream of an asterisk? Six further the marshal will appreciate.
                3. gojesi
                  gojesi 5 May 2012 22: 53
                  +9
                  Quote: esaul
                  It is safe to say that modern politics is a phenomenon

                  In difficult times for Russia, the Consolidating Leader always comes, when it was S. Radonezhsky, then I. Stalin, and now Vladimir Putin! True, before there was no fifth Jewish column and the media
                  1. esaul
                    esaul 6 May 2012 07: 24
                    0
                    Aleksey67,
                    gojesi,
                    Sniper 1968,

                    Alexey, Alexander, Sergey, I welcome you guys and thank you for your support! drinks
                    But, mind you, the "cube" CAM determined who he (in his words) is considered!
                    As in such cases they say - "The cat knows whose meat it has eaten.
                    Well, about his remarks about masculine qualities, I think ONE of the most important is the ability to think and compare, and not "suck", transforming into his ideology that which is clearly harmful to our country, which is served for consumption by people like him, from beyond the hillock and outstanding, like a groan of the soul in worries about the Motherland.
                    True patriots, for whom the fate of the country is not an empty phrase and do not dream of getting to the feeding trough, from which they were eliminated by the will of social processes, see their role not in the unfounded outlining of the country's achievements and the search for shortcomings, but in direct and productive participation in the country's life by measure of their strength and abilities.
                    I apologize for some pathos, but, in my opinion, so concise and informative.
                    Sincerely, Esaul. drinks
                    1. Sniper 1968
                      Sniper 1968 6 May 2012 11: 08
                      +1
                      esaul,
                      Valera, good day. "Cube" just made the wrong door. The site for teenagers is nearby, across the road ... drinks And here, uncles ... Good luck.
                      1. cool.cube2012
                        cool.cube2012 11 May 2012 16: 33
                        +2
                        Yes, it's better to be a teenager than a zombie uncle who has no opinion.
                4. late
                  late 7 May 2012 23: 32
                  -3
                  Yesaul, I approve! Vladimir Putin is one of the best politicians of the new time, and if the steps of the Russian government are not clear to you, this does not mean that they do not make sense. It’s just they don’t understand you. And if you don’t like something, think about what PERSONALLY YOU DID FOR YOUR COUNTRY? Personally, for example, I served in the army and am a blood donor, in a nutshell. And Putin? What Russia was under Yeltsin and what it has become now, with a strong-willed leader who shows by his example that nothing is impossible. Think, thanks to whose efforts we now live in an independent country, whose helm is not a Western puppet!
                  1. cool.cube2012
                    cool.cube2012 11 May 2012 16: 44
                    +2
                    spat Russia is a raw materials appendage of the West. This is only such as you fooled by central TV you don’t see. Jews on a leash brought Putin to the Kremlin. And until they destroy Russia, they will not calm down with it. By supporting the God-chosen, you will betray the country.
            2. esaul
              esaul 5 May 2012 16: 47
              0
              Quote: Winter
              And how he liked to be in charge !!! Well lit up all!

              Margarita, good day. And would you like to see the president of your country gloomy (for example, like Zyuganov), sick and grumbling? This, like a doctor’s, a healthy doctor treats with his healthy appearance ...
              1. gordeew_alr
                gordeew_alr 5 May 2012 21: 38
                +13
                Actually, I would like to see him Russian and responsible for the Russian people, for the Fatherland, as the head of state, of course. And he says that those who believe that Russia is for Russians is ... come.
          2. Joker
            Joker 5 May 2012 13: 09
            +5
            On this occasion, I advise you to watch Zadornov’s concerts laughing
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skasqHTa4o
            or a full concert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ROH20r8Uw&feature=related
          3. Nick
            Nick 5 May 2012 19: 46
            +2
            Quote: Aleksey67
            The Americans and the EU are not stupid, but they felt a "breakdown" in tandem and together began to "catch" the LADY

            Everything is right Alexey, it was very noticeable.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 5 May 2012 13: 18
          +16
          Quote: snek
          Do you really believe


          I personally don’t believe that DAM was president
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 6 May 2012 12: 10
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            I personally don’t believe that DAM was president


            So do I. Putin was the president of these four years. Now the purge in the high command is the same on his instructions / Who will explain why? Maybe, thank God, they began to break the corruption vertical
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 5 May 2012 11: 23
        +9
        Quote: Aleksey67
        I remember the LADIES when he went "peddling" with Putin

        Good afternoon, Alexey! Here, here, attempts to "plush" independence (or amateur performance) cost Russia dearly. And his last progress with the awarding of "heroes" will not remain unnoticed by the GDP ..
      3. escapes
        escapes 5 May 2012 11: 35
        +8
        )) and here breed do not breed srach, the prime minister then there will be a dimka, so everything will go on knurled rails !! Uro ... dy in one word !!!!
        1. Prophet Alyosha
          Prophet Alyosha 5 May 2012 11: 57
          +8
          Not long remained the Kremlin occupiers of Russia with their orange lightning rods !!!
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 01
            +2
            Alyoshenka go eat porridge. Here uncles about serious)
          2. Odinplys
            Odinplys 7 May 2012 05: 58
            -2
            prophet Alyosha,
            Do not hiss ... poison ... the prophet hears not pray ...
        2. Odinplys
          Odinplys 7 May 2012 05: 56
          -2
          No bleigh ... Obama ... or Clinton ... the presidency of Russia ... this is high for you ...
          And if you call Putin's "uro ... dom" ... then you yourself are swamp animals ...
      4. oper66
        oper66 5 May 2012 14: 43
        +8
        Quote: Aleksey67
        I remember the LADIES when he went "peddling" with Putin on the Libyan issue, maybe he felt himself independent, the result of Libya in ..ne, Libyan oil is pumped by amerovskie companies. Fortunately, after this demonstration performance, he did not go "openly" against VVP wink

        Unfortunately, Lady will remind us of herself for a long time by the fact that in the last moments he was in a hurry to privatize state enterprises and was in a hurry - that’s the most disgusting thing that he did and he painted all his uselessness in a parashny color - he’s a pest with a capital letter and to me he will be remembered for this - his worthlessness, vomiting and controllability
      5. esaul
        esaul 5 May 2012 15: 57
        -3
        Quote: Aleksey67
        a new cabinet has not yet been formed, and so let's not raise a srach on the topic of appointments, we will have time to do this in fact in the near future

        Alexey, I welcome you. You're absolutely right, buddy. But how do you want the kids, biting DAM, to spoil Putin! Hush, guys, hush. Only, after all, Putin will decide issues in the country, and not your mossy leaders, pushing you to the end ...
    3. dmnatbor
      dmnatbor 5 May 2012 11: 22
      +13
      Supporters of Putin, Medvedev and the like ... answer me 1 question why put Serdyukov the furniture maker for the post of Ministry of Defense .... well, Fursenko there too !!!


      Putin's emotionalists will not answer.
      They chose not sound reasoning, but emotions.
      Serdyukov to them in his spirit.
      Now it is just beginning to appear, then it will be even more obvious.
      1. gojesi
        gojesi 5 May 2012 22: 59
        -1
        Quote: dmnatbor
        Putin's emotionalists will not answer.

        see above, I answered!
    4. urzul
      urzul 5 May 2012 11: 23
      +14
      Honestly xs, the whole background is not known to us, time will tell
      By the way, I am not a supporter of Medvedev.
      1. YARY
        YARY 5 May 2012 11: 28
        +9
        It's just that Russia was given a time limit - from call to call - we all "served".
        I would like without a relapse! angry
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 5 May 2012 11: 39
        +4
        urzul

        Welcome.

        Soon everyone will speak bully
        1. urzul
          urzul 5 May 2012 11: 45
          +5
          I never said a good word for him;))
      3. Sniper 1968
        Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 18: 00
        +6
        urzul,
        Quote: urzul
        By the way, I'm not a supporter of Medvedev

        Solidarity with you, Andrei. When I see Medvedev, I just want to shout: "Boy! Get away from the car !!!" laughing laughing laughing
    5. party3AH
      party3AH 5 May 2012 12: 26
      +5
      I, too, am not delighted with the "furniture maker", and with the one who makes the general educational reform, the first one really did not play enough of the campaign, but the second does everything to stupefy the nation.
    6. Andrey64
      Andrey64 5 May 2012 12: 29
      -4
      I answer the question: Serdyukov set to carry out the reform of the armed forces !!!. And it should be carried out precisely by the business executive, and not by the military. It is not clear that you rush with him like a chicken with eggs .... A person does his job, what do you not like? New equipment enters the troops, the military raised a salary, they solve housing issues! What is the problem then? Reforms have always been and will be associated with a mass of discontented people.
      1. esaul
        esaul 5 May 2012 16: 57
        -6
        Quote: Andrey64


        Andrey, good afternoon. I support your comment and just want to add that those who are not happy completely forget the fact that 70 years of the previous rulers led the country to collapse. And, what is typical, that no calculations of comparisons, facts and proofs to them are not proofs. In response immediately - "Agitation!" , missing such a moment that their stuffing is more often and are cheap propaganda.
        Plus, buddy! good


        Andrey64
        1. Odinplys
          Odinplys 7 May 2012 06: 57
          -2
          Quote: Andrey64
          Andrey64

          Quote: esaul
          esaul

          also support the person does the work entrusted to him ...
          If he is not an expert in this .... it means that apparently no dedicated specialists were found ...
      2. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 5 May 2012 17: 12
        +5
        Moreover, such a reform should be carried out by a person with a completely atrophied conscience!
      3. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 5 May 2012 19: 32
        +9
        "The trouble is that the pastry will start to sharpen the boots!
        And the pies will be baked for us - the shoemaker "

        Have you studied the structure of the Sun on Funny Pictures?
        There are military institutions of the rear - which are preparing military executives - tlovikov (all sorts of Deputy on the rear and on the soap)

        Officers of the General Staff for 30 years in the army are mistaken!
        Attut came Papa Carlo took the logs and organized the reform.
        Again, if you look at the reform as a transition to a professional army ..... What is this jacket with a bow tie doing here ?!
        Not drowned soldiers (Pinocchio) we do not need!
    7. mind1954
      mind1954 5 May 2012 13: 15
      +7
      They are puppets! What the owners say to them, they do it!
      Whom they are told, that they put.
      1. Prophet Alyosha
        Prophet Alyosha 5 May 2012 17: 17
        +4
        Yes sir!!!
    8. Cheburatino
      Cheburatino 5 May 2012 13: 39
      -4
      Quote: PatriotizTAT
      Supporters of Putin, Medvedev and the like ... answer me 1 question why put Serdyukov the furniture maker for the post of Ministry of Defense .... well, Fursenko there too !!!
      If you do not have an answer, then this is a huge crack in your position! Do they really want to steal, And Serdyukov is certainly not to blame for Putin and Medvedev .... but Serdyukov, I also have no answer, but I did not rank them among the saints "!!! recourse


      Well, let's think about why he was put there. Firstly, the "expert" attributing the reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to Medved is a clown. Glory to the eggs he is in some Ukrainian branch, it's not scary. Secondly, to carry out the reforms, you need not a military, but an economist. And this "furniture maker" is a doctor of economic sciences. And you are compared with this "furniture maker" worm =) no offense.
      We go further. Since 2000, Serdyukov worked in the Federal Tax Service and in 2004 became the head of this service. And after 3 years he was appointed Minister of Defense. But the meager mind of the hamster does not allow you to see this in the "furniture maker")) they wrote to you "he is a furniture maker" and you Already with fire in the ass you prove to everyone that "you destroyed it, sold it." in porridge. Because there was nothing else. Turning on the brain is sometimes useful, hamster.
      Now Fursenko. What doesn’t suit you in it? USE? Did you read it again that it’s bad? My girlfriend works at school, I go there very often, I know all the teachers and I am very familiar with the USE itself. And the USE is the best we have done for our education over the past decades. Or don’t you know how to pass the exams before? Well, I’ll tell you. Obj handed over for a block of cigarettes. History for sweets. And so on. What is the belief in the Soviet system? Well, so the Soviet system stopped working at that moment as they themselves advice disappeared. But is it not so interesting for narrow-minded hamsters?)) Nooo. They told you on YouTube, they wrote to them in the Communist Party (Kommunist newspaper) and they are already angry that everything is bad. The exam makes students learn. I can see it with my own eyes.

      Damn hamsters, nothing reasonable, the main thing is to see and yell. Engage the brain? Nooo)) this is not for you.
      1. esaul
        esaul 5 May 2012 16: 42
        -8
        Cheburatino,
        Andrey, I welcome and support you! It turned out to be a failure and instead of a plus, the cursor clicked on the minus, for which I apologize, but, know that I am your supporter and I like your comment very much! drinks
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 5 May 2012 17: 22
        +11
        Quote: Cheburatino
        And this "furniture maker" is a doctor of economic sciences. And you are compared with this "furniture maker" worm =) no offense.

        Kadyrov, too — In 2004 he graduated with honors from the Makhachkala Institute of Business and Law with a degree in jurisprudence. [5] [6] According to the text of an interview with Ramzan Kadyrov from June 2004 published in Novaya Gazeta, he graduated from the Moscow Institute of Business in Gudermes, but found it difficult to name the topic of his diploma and the branch of law that he specializes in. [7] [8]
        Since 2004 - student of the Academy of Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation. [6]
        January 18, 2006 “at the request of authoritative scientists”, R. Kadyrov was awarded the title of honorary member of the public organization “Russian Academy of Natural Sciences” (RANS). [4]
        June 24, 2006 became a candidate of economic sciences, defending at the Dagestan State Technical University under the leadership of Dr. Ph.D., professor V. B. Melekhin (head of the Department of Computer Engineering, Faculty of Informatics and Management of DGTU), and Ph.D., associate professor Ismailova Sh. T. (head of the Department of Economic Theory of DSTU) between the main participants in the construction industry. " The official opponents were Doctor of Economics, Professor Magomedov R. M. (Department of State and Municipal Management of the same name faculty) and candidate of Economics, Associate Professor Borisova L. A. (Department of Economics and Management, Makhachkala Branch of MADI) Leading Scientific organization - Promstroyinvest LLC [5] [9] [10]
        On July 27, 2006 he was elected Honorary Academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Chechen Republic.
        In 2006, she was awarded the title of Honorary Professor of the Modern Humanitarian Academy. [11]
        On June 19, 2007 he was awarded the title of Honorary Professor of Chechen State University.
        Quote: Cheburatino
        Porridge with worms, biscuits with bugs instead of bread? But I took a sip.

        from porridge with worms to canned canned food - progress is evident
        http://topwar.ru/6706-ne-dumay-o-tushenke-svysoka.html

        Quote: Cheburatino
        The exam is the best that has been done for our education in recent decades. Or don’t you know how to pass exams before? Well, I’ll tell you. Obj passed for a block of cigarettes. History for sweets. And so on. What is faith in the Soviet system?

        In the Rostov region, 70 teachers were detained, who passed the exam on behalf of the students for 40 thousand rubles. Similar criminal cases were investigated in the Saratov Region, the Republic of Tatarstan, Perm Territory and other regions. [Wikip
        but here's how to pass an exam in the Caucasus-http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = VcjeANZh6ng
        you are not surprised by the high rate of knowledge there
        1. Cheburatino
          Cheburatino 5 May 2012 18: 33
          -1
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          In the Rostov region, 70 teachers were detained, who passed the exam on behalf of the students for 40 thousand rubles. Similar criminal cases were investigated in the Saratov Region, the Republic of Tatarstan, Perm Territory and other regions. [Wikip
          but here's how to pass an exam in the Caucasus-http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = VcjeANZh6ng
          you are not surprised by the high rate of knowledge there


          This is exactly what you denounce first of all =) Because you can't think of anything else. Yes, here's the thing. In the absence of the USE, 90% passed it like that. Or was there no "pulling out your students"? You only confirm my words with your comments. Because Before, even if you openly write everything for the student, no one could do anything. But today teachers are afraid of criminal liability.
          And to bring the Caucasus, where active hostilities only ended and there is a mess cleaner than we had in the 90s, it’s smart))) I would say in Khomyachkov’s way.

          Something all in the Caucasus you focus ... in the end stupidity froze))

          As for canned food, I didn’t see any evidence. Besides the videos with the major in some incomprehensible rooms .. Something they didn’t pop up before the reforms)) Dymovskiy, this one, was still a couple. And they open all their sites, they keep blogs))) for the forest begins to survive ... just like chirikov)) But the three cousins ​​served after me, one year just returned. The stories about the changes are impressive. Sorry, I believe my relatives more))
          1. Ustas
            Ustas 6 May 2012 11: 26
            +5
            Yes, that's what the thing is. In the absence of the Unified State Exam, 90% passed it. Or was there no "pulling out your students"? You only confirm my words with your comments. Because before, even if you openly write everything for the student, no one could have done anything. And today teachers are afraid of criminal liability.

            Well then you have settled something, 90%. And from where the figures are. Do not judge all teachers by a particular school.
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 06
          -4
          Kadyrov badly considers money? Hamsters bleat, the caravan goes)


          And about Kadyrov and money - look at Grozny on the 96th and at Grozny 2012. You have to be an idiot to underestimate what is before your eyes)
          1. 443190
            443190 7 May 2012 13: 08
            +4
            I remember from 95 we bombed it well !!! One fire at the oil storage tank was worth what ... But the aircraft pilot just made a mistake with the coordinates ...
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 05
        0
        Beautiful cheburator!)
      4. Ustas
        Ustas 6 May 2012 11: 21
        +5
        Or don’t you know how they passed exams before? Well, I’ll tell you. Obj handed over a block of cigarettes.

        This is not good, all under one comb then.
      5. party3AH
        party3AH 7 May 2012 10: 35
        +3
        Quote: Cheburatino
        Now Fursenko. What doesn’t suit you in it? USE? Did you read it again that it’s bad? My girlfriend works at school, I go there very often, I know all the teachers and I am very familiar with the USE itself. And the USE is the best we have done for our education over the past decades. Or don’t you know how to pass the exams before? Well, I’ll tell you. Obj handed over for a block of cigarettes. History for sweets. And so on. What is the belief in the Soviet system? Well, so the Soviet system stopped working at that moment as they themselves advice disappeared. But is it not so interesting for narrow-minded hamsters?)) Nooo. They told you on YouTube, they wrote to them in the Communist Party (Kommunist newspaper) and they are already angry that everything is bad. The exam makes students learn. I can see it with my own eyes.

        Damn hamsters, nothing reasonable, the main thing is to see and yell. Engage the brain? Nooo)) this is not for you.


        Dear, yes, it's not about the exam, but about the dumbfoundedness of the nation, a free simplified program is being introduced, if you want, you can pay additionally for the study of a foreign language, physics, chemistry, etc. not everyone has a decent income, some families can barely make ends meet, and accordingly, their children cannot get a good education, so they will have blue ink, drugs, and theft. And at the expense of the army, we also had to eat cereals with boiled insects and sip on "delicious" army tea, but we know how to shoot, we know how to endure all the hardships and hardships ...
      6. late
        late 7 May 2012 23: 54
        -2
        RESPECT FRIEND! Painted, as if by notes. Hamsters, most importantly, eat-and-bainki, that does not process the information received.
    9. esaul
      esaul 5 May 2012 16: 18
      -4
      It's funny to observe with what joy you (not supporters) pounced on this article. With what relish you grind the blunders, not noticing and not remembering the positive ... It remains for me to ask your question, PatriotisTAT - "Do you really think that your Zyuganov or Prokhorov are crystal honest and disinterested people who care only for the good of the people?" Save me ... There is nowhere to put samples on Zyuganov, if you want, you can read about this in the same forum. Prokhorov, in general, is a kid who stole in the field of bankruptcy of enterprises and rushes to the trough hiding behind beautiful words. About this, the same, you will find in the forum!
      Zyugan did not even find the courage to congratulate the elected president ... What decency Zyuganov can tryndet? Well this is how much anger and hidden hatred in oneself must be carried! Mom darling! fool
      What is characteristic is that, by and large, there is nothing to show you! All that remains is to clap about the stolen billions (without presenting facts), chairs at the parade, call names glued by the "creative" class and happily pick up any gossip thrown in by the enemy and elevate it to the rank of "unique achievements."
      I myself am not enthusiastic about the presidency of DAM and its passages, but I understand perfectly why you are so happy to rush to savor it all - I really want to bite Putin from around the corner ... Well, really.
      Such articles began to appear quite often and they do not honor the person who throws them in, using their opportunities and forgetting about their beautiful words about patriotism, or the site as a whole. A patriotic site should work for unity, not disunity.
      1. Prophet Alyosha
        Prophet Alyosha 5 May 2012 17: 36
        +7
        Guys! You stop manipulating the slogan that Putin is irreplaceable. And we do not need Russian patriots to impose hangers-on of the "fifth column" - all there are prokhorov, bulk and zyuganov! We already understand that all this "orange fraternity" is the creation of a Zionist Kremlin puppet regime. They created them out of fear of the growth of the national-patriotic movement of the great Russian People! As their foreign patrons say: "If you cannot suppress the protests, lead them." And we have real patriots who have shown their love for the Motherland in battles - Colonel General Ivashov, GRU Colonel Kvachkov, Airborne Forces colonel, Hero of Russia Khabarov !!! The last two are in the dungeons of the occupation Zionist regime. These are our leaders and an alternative to the Oligarch Vladimir! !!
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 14
          -6
          ))) sometimes it's better to chew a guy. And the one who wants to overthrow the regime - we ask that you are welcome to the cellars of Lubyanka)

          And Kvachkov decided to play God. Decided to whom it is possible to live, and to whom it is possible to die. For this, and sits. And do not have politics here)

          And to Khabarov’s account - to each his own. I got into trouble. Responsible for actions. The FSB will not calve.

          It’s strange that you haven’t mentioned Rokhlin yet.
          1. 443190
            443190 5 May 2012 23: 53
            +3
            really, as in the song "there are few real violent, and there are no leaders" ... Successfully Vova cleared the political clearing. He will not see competitors for a long time.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 6 May 2012 00: 01
              -3
              Putin ate children and killed competitors! read and learn new in the comments of the Military Review!
              1. 3412
                3412 7 May 2012 00: 42
                +1
                And such accusations against our beloved president by ct Petrov should be taken by the competent authorities.
      2. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 May 2012 19: 57
        -8
        devils were inspired by reading)
      3. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 5 May 2012 20: 49
        +15
        Quote: esaul
        What is characteristic is that, by and large, after all, you have nothing to present! It remains only to click about the stolen billions (without presenting facts),

        Valery, you know all the facts very well, there were a lot of things about it on your site, your comment on In the Russian Defense Ministry revealed the theft of 190 million rubles


        esaul April 3, 2012 19:38 p.m. 8
        Guys! Well, what a medieval bloodthirsty to show! Enough of a lifetime with confiscation of personal and personal loved ones. It will be the case, and even the financial police, to identify all property and accounts, with subsequent transfer to the country of darling. There will be more benefit than this one on the Canaries with one hand lying in a deck chair surrounded by caring loved ones.
        Quote: esaul
        chairs in the parade
        this is just about decency in which you reproached Zyuganov for not being congratulated
        Quote: esaul
        Such articles began to appear quite often and they do not honor the person who throws them in, using their opportunities and forgetting about their beautiful words about patriotism, or the site as a whole.

        such articles are needed because they reveal the problems of the government or you prefer not to know anything, patriotism doesn’t mean singing laudatory praises, certainly Putin has done a lot compared to 90, but how much you can shout about past victories. I blame Putin today for excessive liberalism corrupt thieves, oligarchs, huge corruption - after all, all reforms with such corruption are doomed to failure, replacing migration, to get another sagra, condopoga
        recently Rogozin voiced the initiative on high treason, we all supported on this site, I think people support, why not support Putin, let him show his patriotism as opposed to liberals
        with respect
      4. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 5 May 2012 21: 54
        +8
        It's funny to watch you dear esaul defend United Russia, give examples of the positive, compared with the USSR !!! What, again, start to compare with the 90s? And it seemed to me, in 12 years, can the government already do something or not? Do you think the enemy is America (the USA with NATO) and liberal (at least they and my enemies)? So supporters of the Communist Party criticize the current government here, this can even be seen from the avatars, with the image of the Red Banner! They probably say that the pro-American will use such an avatar, it’s corny, of course, but your defense of the modern government is already annoying ... And mind you, they criticize Medvedev for the case! To Putin, so far, people still have faith that he is a patriot ...
        About criticism, Renaming the Police as the police, is this your main problem in the country? It seemed to me from the terms, the amount does not change (oh yes reform of the formation of Fursenki). Then moronic (in another language does not dare to call) the transition to daylight saving time! All people wanted, if they translate, then in the winter, and not vice versa, Putin promised to fix it well wink
        These are two things that were enough through the eyes of the people, + a medal to the hunchback ... But how can one not criticize after that? The facts are given to you in the article, you seem not to have read the article or do not want to see negative things ... No.
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 5 May 2012 22: 33
          +3
          the biggest problem in the country.
          from the change of places of the terms

          eyelids feel
        2. 443190
          443190 5 May 2012 23: 50
          -2
          Yes, forget about him ... he "esaul" has long abandoned his horse ... or maybe ate it with friends in a ravine.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 6 May 2012 00: 49
            0
            sure that you, 443190, **** rare)

            and of course you’re never a patriot of your homeland)
            1. 443190
              443190 6 May 2012 01: 57
              -1
              And for such words, one can be tapped in one place.

              Son ... You first grow up .... Mind your mind ... And then knock on the buttons. I did not have time to appear and there ... Swear. Rude old man must skillfully. Otherwise, you can get sick leave ...

              Son ... You first grow up .... Mind your mind ... And then knock on the buttons. I did not have time to appear and there ... Swear. Rude old man must skillfully. Otherwise, you can get sick leave ...

              Be careful when cornering.
        3. zevs379
          zevs379 6 May 2012 04: 17
          +2
          Quote: TiGRoO
          These are two things that were enough through the eyes of the people, + a medal to the hunchback ... But how can one not criticize after that? The facts are given to you in the article, you seem not to have read the article or do not want to see negative things ...


          Here is this humpback medal, what is it? - This is a spit in the face of all Russian people.
          And imagine what he would do someday near Putin?
        4. 443190
          443190 6 May 2012 09: 38
          +2
          Yes, stop being offended by lovers of GDP and LET let them kiss their idols on the very tomatoes. Maybe they do it not because of stupidity, but truly by patriotic desires.
          1. cool.cube2012
            cool.cube2012 6 May 2012 22: 04
            +3
            443190 They just need to worship the powers that be. One word is puppets.
            1. 443190
              443190 7 May 2012 00: 28
              +1
              Yes, what’s true is true. May invite them to appoint a LIFE president. Call him SUNNY !!! GREAT PILES .... Let them have fun.
              1. Odinplys
                Odinplys 7 May 2012 07: 18
                -4
                Quote: 443190
                Yes, what’s true is true. May invite them to appoint a LIFE president. Call him SUNNY !!! GREAT PILES .... Let them have fun.


                Do not hesitate ... it will be so ... the next 18 years, Putin will be President ... for he is the true Patriot of Russia ... He will consult with Great Stalin a little ... and from today ... you will feel the hand of the Boss in the country...
                Get ready ... either with Russia and Putin ... or into the torpedo compartment ...
                1. 443190
                  443190 7 May 2012 13: 11
                  +2
                  Just do not compare it with Stalin. That country has pulled out of the post-war devastation in 10 years .... And here, without war, they have been digging for 12 years ... There is only one achievement ... The number of billionaires and millionaires ...
            2. Odinplys
              Odinplys 7 May 2012 07: 22
              -2
              Quote: cool.cube2012
              443190 They just need to worship the powers that be. One word is puppets.

              Chat a little bit ... all of you have already been highlighted ... in the swamp of all cameras so far ... have recorded ... and on sites ... your addresses ... have long been in the database ...
              A little later we’ll talk to whom and why ... Strong Russia is not needed ...
              1. 443190
                443190 7 May 2012 13: 12
                +3
                Think nobody knows about you? Hero ...
              2. 443190
                443190 9 May 2012 01: 29
                0
                Sonny !!! Go posy while there is something ... Tomorrow it will be too late!
      5. rate 60
        rate 60 7 May 2012 14: 13
        +3
        esaul you, as always, very cleverly turn everything over. The crystal in quotation marks Prokhorov is not ours, but your man. It was Putin who raised and protects these God-chosen oligarchs. If, as you say that Prokhorov is a thief, then why does not your beloved Putin nationalize him billions and jail him like Khodorkovsky, on the contrary, Zyuganov is the only one who found the courage and did not congratulate the Washington henchman. the existing anti-popular regime, and critically analyzing the actions of this government is a gut. And it seems to me that your "patriotic" site is under the strict control of those chosen by God.
        1. Fox 070
          Fox 070 7 May 2012 14: 48
          0
          Putin tore the oligarchs and I think he will not stop at Khodorkovsky. Quite a few of them have already dug in abroad and are eating up the stolen billions. The time will come for Prokhorov. After Putin's remarks about the results of privatization, Prokhorov quickly went into politics with the slogan "State for the people." As for courage ... I don't think that hiding behind an Internet fence requires a lot of courage to get away from it. If the site were under tight control, you would have been slowly leaked, otherwise you can still bravely lick another person! It is a pity that the Order for Courage on the Internet does not exist, you would have it number 1.
    10. Neighbor
      Neighbor 5 May 2012 17: 17
      -7
      Another orange-blue little article! Ugh! tongue
      Do not get fooled by people - do not give food to orangery! Let yourself here - with each other - like spiders in a jar - biting! We (normal and adequate people) have nothing to do here.
      And deflate and blame - this is the most difficult business.
      Quote: they scum the great, for they understand that they themselves are utter nonsense!
      I do not defend Medvedev. BUT! Scandal him and judge - you have no right - neither moral nor any other. You have not ruled the country (And, thank God, you will never) and judge - not for you - oranzhevizne.
      We can only state the facts: We overcame the crisis, raised the Army, raised the science, plants do not stand up, but plow around the clock, new plants are being built, salaries are growing, pensions are being paid. Full of work. There is no war. There is no devastation. Georgia - put in place. You can - for hours to list - Russia - they began to respect and fear, weapons - the best in the world - are created and purchased ........., state employees - receive salaries ............ ... etc. etc.
      HERE - INDICATORS. And not yours - blah blah blah blah-oink-oink-oink-oink.
      Naturally - all this concerns - only orangery, which is Active - is present in this article.
      To all normal people and normal - subjective - only + bold!
      Quote from Esaul: Hush, guys, hush. Only, after all, Putin will decide issues in the country, and not your mossy leaders, pushing you to srach drinks good drinks
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 10
        -6
        Gays were inspired, because everything is forbidden to them. Damn power ...
        1. 443190
          443190 6 May 2012 01: 56
          +3
          Himself is not an hour of blue?
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 6 May 2012 11: 24
            +1
            Of course not, I’m for the decisions that the authorities make. it’s more logical to think that gays are against - for their power aches.
            1. 443190
              443190 6 May 2012 23: 46
              -2
              Well, who said that they reject all decisions of the authorities? So this is not an argument.
      2. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 5 May 2012 22: 01
        +9
        We have freedom of speech, don't we? And enough of all those who disagree with the authorities, make orange, "little blue bear" ... We are red! am
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 May 2012 00: 00
          -1
          since ancient times it has become a tradition in Russia - that the enemies of the Kremlin are the enemies of Russia)
          1. 443190
            443190 6 May 2012 01: 55
            +3
            Especially in troubled times when the occupiers were seated in the Kremlin ...
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 6 May 2012 13: 24
              0
              do you have a troubled time in your head now, no one there by chance "sat down"? laughing
              1. 443190
                443190 6 May 2012 22: 42
                -2
                Once again, the moderator pleases me ... Maybe it’s better. Girl.
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 8 May 2012 20: 43
                  0
                  you are miserable and gray. meaning to complain?) and meaning to complain in general?)
                  1. 443190
                    443190 9 May 2012 01: 32
                    0
                    maybe we’ll talk manly? Sucker.

                    Neither name nor place of residence ... Ssykun. Can we talk manly?
        2. Odinplys
          Odinplys 7 May 2012 07: 27
          0
          Quote: TiGRoO
          We have freedom of speech, don't we? And enough of all those who disagree with the authorities, make orange, "little blue bear" ... We are red! am

          So ask why your red ... in due time ... gave the victory to the Yeltsin ... or sold it ???
          I was scared ... in that terrible state in which Russia was ... to take responsibility ...
          And Putin ... took ... was not afraid ...
          1. 443190
            443190 7 May 2012 13: 15
            0
            And who slipped this duck to you .... Gave the victory .... It sounds very sluggish. Do you believe it yourself? No one has ever voluntarily surrendered power in RUSSIA to his opponent ... Or palace coups or revolutions ... History shows this.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 8 May 2012 20: 44
              0
              Vasya) I saw how power peacefully passed from Medvedev to Putin?) From Yeltsin to Putin?) And from Putin to Medvedev)
              1. 443190
                443190 9 May 2012 01: 34
                -1
                That's just the point that I only saw and did not know the whole secret.
      3. Ustas
        Ustas 6 May 2012 11: 42
        +8
        I do not defend Medvedev. BUT! Scandal him and judge - you have no right - no plague. nothing else


        You are mistaken, dear. It is we (the citizens of Russia) who have the right to judge those whom we have entrusted, by voting, to lead us.
        PS: I am not "orange", but a citizen of Russia. And there is no need to hang the cliché "orange" on everyone who disagrees with you.
        1. cool.cube2012
          cool.cube2012 6 May 2012 22: 10
          +2
          Ustas Yes, they were given such an installation in their favorite Kremlin. They do not understand that they are the mouthpiece of the God-chosen.
      4. Tyumen
        Tyumen 7 May 2012 19: 35
        +1
        Quote: Neighbor
        Full of work.

        For neighbors from near abroad? I am a professional with a 20 year old
        experience, with great difficulty I find work in my city, where it goes
        construction at every turn.
    11. wk
      wk 5 May 2012 17: 34
      -1
      Quote: PatriotizTAT
      not Putin and Medvedev ...

      it is inappropriate to simplify everything so ... at the "top" there is a war, at least 3 groups, and Putin and Medvedev are only centers of gravity, although at the moment the GDP seems to be stronger ... but in Russia it has always been like this, and under the tsars, and under the communists, and not only in Russia ... the main thing is that this struggle, in spite of everything, turns out to be a blessing for the country, it happened, but it happened in another way ... it happened in the period 1905-1917-1929, 1985-1991 -1993-1999, when this struggle came out ... the bars are fighting among the slaves, their forelocks are cracking ... let's see, little depends on us.
    12. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 5 May 2012 18: 14
      +3
      I am not a supporter of these creatures, but the answer is obvious: they set him up to ruin the army, without noise and dust. Why does the army have to defend Medveput, America will protect them!
    13. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 May 2012 19: 42
      -5
      and whom would you set for the reorganization and reduction of the army? I am a supporter of Serdyukov)
      1. 443190
        443190 6 May 2012 01: 59
        0
        These ones are being reformed soon .... Yes, then it will be too late.
    14. vezunchik
      vezunchik 5 May 2012 20: 00
      0
      Yes, everything is simple! So they do not know what to do!
    15. gojesi
      gojesi 5 May 2012 22: 39
      +4
      Quote: PatriotizTAT
      If you do not have an answer, then this is a huge crack in your position.

      because the Army is a huge and living organism connected along and across by family, friends, co-service, countrymen, students, cadets and the hell with what kind of ties!
      AND ALL THIS NEEDS TO BE BROKEN !!! Because there is no point in arming the part that was understaffed by officers and soldiers, in which the drunken grabbers deputy on the rear and storekeepers-ensigns on Mercedes will trade in modern weapons systems and write off the shortage through godfathers, matchmakers, friends through another Chechnya! This is the first!
      Remember, I won’t repeat!
      And the second - Our army, then - military science and the Military Doctrine itself turned out to be hopelessly outdated !!! As war showed first in Yugoslavia, and then a series of Middle East conflicts. Military Districts, NO ONE WILL LET US TURN UP TO USE, cropped parts are not needed IN PRINCIPLE !!! The war is now different !!! Well, like Budyonny in the 41st, he was going to fight the Germans with the help of the Cossack cavalry and excellent Zlatoust drafts! This viciously drunk but lively, Army Organism had to be broken and KILLED !!! Here for this WAS NOT UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING IN THE ARMED FORCES, A DUAL SHEEP!
      Would you like the army officials from Moscow to reformat the army, mannered, perfumed, in white gloves ??? So that they cut themselves? Then you are a naive person, I think you yourself already understood this ... It does not happen !!!
      Putin again, once again, did everything right !!! Excuse me, minus!
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 5 May 2012 23: 08
        +2
        "Oh, you would be silent, would .......".
        What are you, a bad man, you are reproaching the Army ?!
        Started drinking and stealing?
        Because, your beloved officials (kiss them in the zd) instead of financing the army, they built themselves villas, bought cottages, yachts, and how Vova was behind the hillocks! A soldier that will endure everything (Obliged to endure hardships and LESHENKO)
        Are the hardships and hardships too great?
        And where does the ensign on a Mercedes?
        Avot tell society why you won’t say the like
        MENT PICKED IN TAKE BOUGHT A FOREIGN CAR, FSB officer also bastard in someone else privatized this?
        Is the gut weak? It’s just that there are no professional staff in these departments of officials.
        And you will trash the army .......
        1. gojesi
          gojesi 6 May 2012 21: 25
          -1
          Quote: Ruswolf
          Because, your beloved officials (kiss them in the w-d)

          we probably have very different levels, both social, educational, informational, and evolutionary ... In my life, in everyday life, I don’t have very much, I don’t communicate with animals, do you really think that I will communicate epistolously ?? ? Learn, grow up, get your mind up, and then ... maybe I'll discuss something with you ... Although it is unlikely! I wish you every success!
          1. Ruswolf
            Ruswolf 7 May 2012 18: 28
            0
            You, Little Ham and Ignoramus!

            And teach a Military History before commenting.
            1. Do not touch Budenny at the time, he played his part with honor.
            2. Cossack units played a significant role on the Great Patriotic War fronts, including deep raids on the rear.
            And most importantly
            gojesi
            .... drunken grabbers deputy on the rear and storekeepers-ensign on Mercedes,

            Who gave you the right to insult Russian officers and ensigns calling them all Drunkards and thieves. and generals expose maniacs with a diagnosis of mental disorder.
            If you have an official fact on someone else, indicate only him. And verbiage as in your comment is not appropriate here.

            I also ask you to be more restrained in your statements to your opponent.
            I understand that running through the Internet pages is easy to grab words and slang, but it is very stupid to use it out of place.
            And your attempt to insult with an empty set of words really shows that the levels of development we have are different.

            By the way, you are my literate! When addressing a stranger, they say "you", and in the letter the appeal "you, you, your" is written with a capital letter.
            You are also a dvoeshnik!
            I am not angry with you and forgive you your sins, because from ignorance you do not know what you are doing. for we must forgive our debts! ..... "
            Go in Peace!
            1. Fox 070
              Fox 070 7 May 2012 18: 47
              -3
              Ha ha ha! Well done Alex! So him, redneck illiterate! What, Alexander Zakharovich, has evolutionary development failed? And you still write about the Aryan white war, which butted the dragon 13000 years ago! That's where the level of intelligence and knowledge! Read the story! fool
              1. Ruswolf
                Ruswolf 7 May 2012 19: 27
                0
                Greetings Felix!
                In vain you suggested the idea of ​​the White War to him!
                Now his doctrine will turn out to be utopian and outdated, and he himself will turn out to be a grabber and a drunkard (on a Mercedes) who bribed a dragon for historical fraud.
                1. Fox 070
                  Fox 070 7 May 2012 19: 47
                  -2
                  So it was not I who told him, it was he who first pushed me this nonsense! Now unsubscribing from him. laughing If interested, go down this page, read. You will have fun !!!
                  1. Ruswolf
                    Ruswolf 7 May 2012 20: 30
                    -1
                    Thank! Amused in full

                    But if you carefully read and imbued with his thirst for evolution!
                    About which he constantly speaks!
                    That praise Darwin - he had already peeled off the tree for sure.
                    Then it becomes clear his attraction to the times of "Homo erectus"

                    But with humor, he already has good results.
                    1. Fox 070
                      Fox 070 7 May 2012 21: 19
                      -3
                      laughing But I think that it’s impossible to get down from the tree just because he caught his tail! From this and rages, and about evolution all the time repeats! Probably C. Darwin is the number one enemy for him, but with the name Sigmund Freud, in general, enrages! God be with him! Happy holiday to you! Be alive drinks
                      1. Ruswolf
                        Ruswolf 7 May 2012 23: 05
                        +1
                        Happy New Year! Be Alive! drinks
  2. darkman70
    darkman70 5 May 2012 11: 08
    +17
    I completely agree with the opinion of Mikhail Delyagin. You can’t say more precisely.
    Medvedev does not pull on the president of a great country.
    1. Winter
      Winter 5 May 2012 12: 47
      +14
      The same Delyagin at the beginning of Medvedev’s presidency spoke a little differently. But now, when he hit politics, his tone has changed. In general, all these analysts are strong only in hindsight! It is impossible to recall at least something that they predicted. Professional demagogues, talkers! And judging by well-fed faces, well-paid talkers!
      1. esaul
        esaul 6 May 2012 07: 47
        -3
        Quote: Winter
        The same Delyagin at the beginning of Medvedev’s presidency spoke a little differently. But now, when he hit politics, his tone has changed. In general, all these analysts are strong only in hindsight! It is impossible to recall at least something that they predicted. Professional demagogues, talkers! And judging by full faces, well-paid talkers

        Margarita, perfectly said, absolutely true and exhaustive! Many of those whom the current "stigmatizes of the regime" raise on the shield, accumulate their political capital on anti-Putin rhetoric with the sole purpose of feeling the leadership chair under their seat! And for their supporters I am sincerely offended. They tear their throats for those who at one time had a bunch of opportunities to change the situation for the better, they did nothing for this, completely forgetting that the head was given to them not only to "eat into it."
        1. 443190
          443190 7 May 2012 13: 18
          0
          Then show me an ideological Putin supporter who erupted into power and works for nothing .... for the good of the Russian people ....
    2. anchonsha
      anchonsha 5 May 2012 13: 03
      -2
      Offer another presidential candidate, if DAM does not suit ... Yes, there are no other candidates who could be trusted in this difficult time for Russia ... We can chat, like the same Delyagin and others like him, but to do things no. Yes, and none of the leaders of the country ever suited us ... Browse the history of Russia and see for yourself ...!
      1. Tatars
        Tatars 5 May 2012 13: 58
        +7
        The question is whether Putin will stand rather than sit on the victory parade? Medvedev abolished this rule means does not respect war veterans
    3. Ross
      Ross 5 May 2012 15: 14
      +1
      Mikhail Delyagin penetrated to the very depths. Poet. darkman70 plus!
  3. Captain45
    Captain45 5 May 2012 11: 26
    +9
    I support the opinion of M. Delyagin. Personally, after about six months of the presidency of Medvedev, an association was born with a five-year-old child who was put behind the wheel of a standing car and there he was buzzing, turning the steering wheel, pedaling and horn. The child is happy, he goes to a big car, but from the side, the car stands still. I ran like a kid and was happy with all kinds of gadgets, child.
  4. patriot2
    patriot2 5 May 2012 11: 28
    +5
    urzul, here is your truth - to give him lectures and to write scientific works most. Putin holds it for contrast, and there is always at hand the main reason for failure - DAM.
    A article +
  5. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 5 May 2012 11: 39
    +13
    all the policies that were carried out earlier, all the pros and cons of Putin’s two previous real terms — all this automatically continued on Medvedev’s presidential term.

    No need to think - “HE is off topic”
    Laws are written, with "Him"
    The all-powerful queen stands in tandem
    Worth the naked king
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 5 May 2012 12: 10
      +5
      Tatanka Yotanka,
      Well, something like that! Prior to awarding Gorbi, I tried to respect him for myself, but now I think in vain!
  6. Ascetic
    Ascetic 5 May 2012 11: 55
    +28
    Given what specific decisions Medvedev made explicitly independently - reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs or initiatives to cancel the transition to winter time - this is more likely to be good ...


    All-Russian Radio starts broadcasting and reports:
    - In Moscow - 15 hours, in Yekaterinburg - 16 hours, in Tomsk - 17 hours,
    18 hours in Irkutsk ... 23 hours in Vladivostok, at
    Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky - midnight.
    Medvedev listened, listened and said:
    - Well, a mess in my country!
  7. taseka
    taseka 5 May 2012 12: 01
    -4
    It was not Medvedev who played, he played the tandem - and not always badly !!! They began to respect Russia and be a little afraid!
    1. 443190
      443190 6 May 2012 09: 42
      +3
      Well, they respected it so yes !!! Even the Arabs are not embarrassed by our diplomats in public lupit !!! Forgot ? And at the UN, Churkin is blamed for the eyes. Where is respect and fear?
  8. East
    East 5 May 2012 12: 22
    -1
    And what did you expect and expect from the President of the Russian Federation?
    What actions and reforms did you want from the President of the Russian Federation?
    And the opinion of the people at the elections all of you ...? No need to say that, I personally did not vote, and the elections were wrong and so on.
    You might think that you acted more correctly, more correctly, more confidently, and would give the amers the heat, and the people manna from heaven. As you know, with good intentions ... We had one such one, and the USSR did not become, and what vigorous activity did perestroika develop, glasnost ...
    Normally, the peasant worked as hard as he could, he didn’t make any critical mistakes, clearly better than Yeltsin and Gorbachev, under Putin’s leadership, the country lives better than 4 years ago, a little, but better. Until you drop, you can write that they have stolen, killed, not fired, and so on. The paradox is that before they wrote, well, what kind of leader we have, even the Internet does not know, and knows how to use the gadget. And now the main complaint - that’s all, it only knows how to climb on the Internet and use fashionable gadgets.
    I am not a fan of the LADIES, but I think I worked honestly, and anyone else would not have done it for our Motherland. We must take into account that if we want a calm progressive development of the country, we do not need revolutionaries and heroes. And we need hard workers, "galley slaves" and "refresher courses", to die in the world is one thing, but to work and die when you know that your feat is inconspicuous, but so necessary - this is another. Do you want shocks? Vote for the revolution, and do not be surprised when the revolution destroys you!
    And the pig will always find dirt ... Let it throw a stone ....
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 5 May 2012 15: 05
      +2
      No need to say that, I personally did not vote, and the elections were wrong and so on.

      But so the majority voted for the Communist Party or the Liberal Democratic Party, you ask the people uncle, my acquaintances account for 60 (out of 100) people who didn’t vote for a single Russia or Vladimir Putin ... yes
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 May 2012 20: 59
        -3
        I v Putin and the family also voted And neighbors)
        1. 443190
          443190 6 May 2012 09: 44
          +3
          And my family and I voted against Putin .... And the neighbors too ....
      2. 443190
        443190 6 May 2012 09: 43
        +4
        It does not matter who and how to vote. It is important who and how to count the votes !!! And by whose order ...
    2. esaul
      esaul 5 May 2012 16: 37
      -6
      Ost
      Sorry, I don’t know your name, buddy, but I want to express my words of approval and support! It's nice that they did not shy away from the discussion and expressed their position, without looking at a bunch of negativity in many comments. I put you a plus.
      1. 443190
        443190 6 May 2012 02: 03
        +3
        And let's colleagues, in about 6 years we’ll twist this Temko ... And then we bet ... Who and how ????
        1. esaul
          esaul 6 May 2012 07: 51
          +1
          Quote: 443190
          And let's colleagues, in about 6 years we’ll twist this Temko ... And then we bet ... Who and how ????

          What are we going to compare with, colleague, with 1913 or with 1980? But let's immediately agree - do not write off the real indicators for "agitation" if they (indicators) suddenly do not look to you.
          1. 443190
            443190 6 May 2012 09: 05
            +4
            We will compare with what is now in 2012 ...
        2. Neighbor
          Neighbor 6 May 2012 13: 02
          -2
          Quote: 443190
          And let's colleagues

          SUCH AS YOU - US - NOT COLLEAGUES! am All your colleagues and hosts - there - beyond the hillock - in Amrico.so.si.i.i and sit and pull you by the strings - like dolls. Bred you - like kids. In Libya - there are also many people like you - there were.
          Ugh on you all! Ugh! am
          Quote: I voted for Putin and the family also And neighbors) - absolutely in solidarity - everyone I know (except for a few seniors - pensioners - the Communist Party) - voted for Putin! And this is a lot of people - believe me.
          1. 443190
            443190 6 May 2012 22: 45
            +1
            Go to the nearest ravine ... there a dead horse lies ... Dine with your companions.
            1. rate 60
              rate 60 7 May 2012 13: 07
              +3
              443190 plus for good advice to the Neighbor. Probably even that horse was neighing from the ravine. Now the Neighbor will not appear here until he finishes eating.
  9. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    SAMEDOV SULEYMAN 5 May 2012 12: 34
    +1
    V.V. Putin is an intelligent, smart and far-sighted politician; he knew what he was doing when Medvedev put (if I may say so) in his place. Now it’s too late to speak, write, discuss or condemn (MAVR HAS DONE, MAVR CAN LEAVE!)
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 5 May 2012 12: 52
      +21
      Greetings, Suleiman! We will pour in his memory a granite tablet with his quotes as a failed prophet Moses. And let's call it the tablets of the testament of President Medvedev.

      1. “Freedom is better than non-freedom,”
      2. Enough nightmare business!
      3. I understand that it is not easy for business to work, that our bureaucratic apparatus is still difficult, but no need to whine
      4. "irresponsible bastards" no brains, no conscience ", punish them" in full ". By Lame Horse
      5. "Government cannot be shaken like a pear. I often get such messages from people: “Immediately change this minister! How not ashamed? We had an accident, and it still works! "But we must understand that not all accidents depend on the ministers, we really have a very difficult situation both in industry and in the economy"
      6. “I would like the people to be modernizers, not just political parties, not only president who walks with iPodor some elite
      7. “WTO is not a carrot, this is a set of rather complex responsibilities that are assigned to us, and if we accept them, let them do it humanly, and not scare us with the fact that we ourselves will take on something additional
      8. At the forefront should be put forward the figure of the athlete himself - not the federations that we sometimes have big and fat like cats, especially not the leaders of federations and not even coaches, with all the enormous respect for them: athletes are successful - they should be the epicenter of attention "," If I find out that the bosses, including new bosses who will appear in different places, started again friend “wet” will have to retake the deck again ”
      9.About kote. From sources close to # Dorofey, it became known that he did not disappear anywhere. Thank you all for your concern! ”
      10. “My not a cue already, but a sentence. You have replicas. And what I say is cast in granite
    2. esaul
      esaul 5 May 2012 16: 38
      -5
      SAMEDOV SULEYMAN,
      I support the commentary, Suleiman and welcome you, pal! good
  10. Hleb
    Hleb 5 May 2012 12: 40
    0


    so that........
  11. Hleb
    Hleb 5 May 2012 12: 41
    +4
    so that.......
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 5 May 2012 15: 02
      +3
      Laid off? Oh, what generosity of our ruler, I didn’t imprison, but dismissed, long live the iPod! laughing wassat
      And also punctuation marks laughing
      Medvedev after rape, fired the Interior Minister laughing so it would be better wink
  12. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 5 May 2012 12: 42
    +17
    I do not understand why we are discussing a "doll" and not a "puppeteer".
    As for me, I never perceived him as president. They brought by the handle, planted, gave toys. They made it so that it turned out to be the choice of the people.
    Leave LADY alone. Well, not the one who is capable of being the head.
    Let him go with God, let him live somewhere calm, with his family.
    His conscience, by and large, is clear, like a baby’s. And if, what’s wrong, then it’s not his fault.
  13. Oleg0705
    Oleg0705 5 May 2012 14: 08
    0
    Medvedev was in the same company with Chubais.


    Chubais is smart, but not enough to pretend to be a fool in time.

    and on account DAM
    Information from an ordinary hopeless source ..
  14. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 5 May 2012 14: 08
    +6
    The author is right
    Dima watched the chair while Vova shared the loot.
    EBN - the cabinet of minstors changed - there was a mess
    Vova - changed - there were violations
    Dima - did not change ............

    The question arises - is it really that good and the problems have disappeared?
    or because Vova was there (sat on the dorm)

    article plus
  15. marshes
    marshes 5 May 2012 14: 39
    +1
    Honestly, the last year in Russia reminded so of the year 89-91 with possible consequences ...
    1. gordeew_alr
      gordeew_alr 5 May 2012 22: 43
      0
      I have the same feeling. Only it is aggravated by the fact that, if in 89 ... 91 it looked like chaos, now it looks like a system. I remember the statement of Academician Aganbegyan in those years that everyone needs to be thrown into the market as if in muddy water - whoever comes out will come out. That is, there was at least some prospect of a swim. Nowadays, a system is built up at all levels, both governmental and business, when the country is run by accountants (it used to be such a word), or by today's financiers, and puppeteers are special services with a long post-revolutionary track record, now called the FSB. As they say, it is possible to manage this way. But after all, what I learned, I learned that. The FSB specialist is a specialist in the development and implementation of covert operations, the accountant moves the bones on the accounts, and to manage the country you need a professional in organizing social and economic life. Previously, this was taught at large enterprises, in headquarters, in ministries. And today, the vast majority of people who manage enterprises are not experienced enough, concerned about personal enrichment due to the most brutal exploitation of people. No one is concerned about the organization of the production technological cycle. Everyone is sawing money. Officials - nationwide, private traders - the health of mercenaries. As a result, the farmed economy of both the smallest enterprise and the whole country is steadily declining. The technological level of production, and even urban economy has been rolled back, it’s even hard to say where, people stopped working. I think that it is only thanks to the titanic efforts of the people to establish a popular life that we can get out of this difficult, not situation, but condition. But you also need to wake up from perestroika and reforms. Anyone who is in control of the country today can help this process or exacerbate the collapse. Before the elections, I did not believe in a change in this disastrous system of the 2000s, and today I think that only something unbelievable can push GDP to change in favor of Russia. The creator of the system becomes her hostage. First, he shapes her, and then she rolls inertia in a given direction, and he becomes her hostage. So the GDP can ask these questions: will it understand, will it, will it be able, will it have enough strength?
      1. gordeew_alr
        gordeew_alr 5 May 2012 23: 05
        -2
        Without words...
        http://warfiles.ru/show-6810-vysshuyu-nagradu-rf-ubiyce-sssr.html
  16. Kievan
    Kievan 5 May 2012 14: 55
    -8
    The election and presidency of Medvedev is a good basis for comedy. Surely they’ll take off in twenty years.
    1. esaul
      esaul 5 May 2012 19: 27
      +1
      Quote: Kievite
      The election and presidency of Medvedev is a good basis for comedy. Surely they’ll take off in twenty years.

      Whoever to write comedy from is your independent Kravchuk-Yushchenko-Tymoshenko-Yanukovych. What are you using your spoon to climb into Russian borscht? You will also criticize what is happening in Russia! Turn around, pay attention to "Ridna Khatu" ...! fool
      1. gordeew_alr
        gordeew_alr 5 May 2012 23: 10
        +1
        With such a title, maybe you should not be rude? Or are Ukrainians foreign to you?
        1. esaul
          esaul 6 May 2012 07: 57
          -2
          Quote: gordeew_alr
          With such a title, maybe you should not be rude? Or are Ukrainians foreign to you?

          Your remark reminds me of the American practice of filing lawsuits for sex harassment based on a man's interested look at a charming woman. This practice is very common in the "citadel of democracy".
          1. gordeew_alr
            gordeew_alr 6 May 2012 18: 11
            -1
            "... if I have decided something, I will definitely drink ..." / V.Vysotsky/
    2. gordeew_alr
      gordeew_alr 5 May 2012 23: 08
      0
      Black is your humor. Who will shoot, west? In the Soviet desert, perhaps in 20 years there will be no one. Even in an independent ...
  17. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 5 May 2012 14: 58
    +4
    Article tremendous + good
    especially liked the following
    All that he will remember for the Russians as president is renaming the police to the police and playing over time.

    - For Dmitry Medvedev, it was four years of fun and banter, when a person enjoyed life, listened to Deep Purple, had fun with tweeters and iPods ... The boy got into toys. Little boys play dice, and he played in the country. It was a happy time for him; he felt like a great man.


    Russian people can be beaten, but not deceived. We remember this. We can forgive anything but cynical deception. That is why Stalin is a hero to us, and Chubais is a bastard. And Medvedev was in the same company with Chubais.
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 5 May 2012 21: 26
      +4
      And why set a minus? Off-topic my comment? Citizens, at least argued with an answer ... request
  18. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 5 May 2012 16: 36
    0
    Excellent analytics. Article unambiguous "+".
    I won’t write anything bad. Personally, I am very pleased with the friendly loyal people. And it is precisely in this that Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev likes me.
    1. esaul
      esaul 5 May 2012 16: 51
      +2
      AK-74-1,
      I join you and your comment, Andrey! good
  19. Asketxnumx
    Asketxnumx 5 May 2012 16: 43
    +8
    I also like it. Especially after giving Gorbi a high award. Shameful and bitter, gentlemen. Hands fall ...
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 5 May 2012 19: 35
      +4
      Asketxnumx
      But you don’t have to give up - unless the enemies are on their heads!
  20. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 5 May 2012 17: 29
    +3
    From which it is ashamed and bitter. From Gorbachev, from the 08.08.08 war, from the accident at Sayano-Shushenskaya. I, too, hurt and bitter that they destroyed the country, were led like suckers on candy from the "Western democratic partners"; that they fought with a friendly people (who would have told me in 1992, when I became the commander of the SPG-9 crew, that the guys from the 58th Army would fight the Georgians, and most likely with my gunner, and I had a Ukrainian loader).
    But I also believe in the friendship and loyalty of a partner, without this in any way. And in the hardships and in joys you need to be with friends. And I don’t see anything wrong with Medvedev as such.
  21. Sniper 1968
    Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 18: 13
    +10
    False Dmitry leaves, our cardboard president. Why, I never took him seriously. Someone he is not real, a child with the head of an adult ... Serdyukov, I hope he will leave too. And Fursenko, the debilitator of Russia. Also ...
    1. 443190
      443190 5 May 2012 23: 41
      +1
      it would be better if he, together with his entire Kremlin team, went somewhere far away .... That would have brought happiness !!!
  22. sergo0000
    sergo0000 5 May 2012 18: 23
    +3
    AK-74-1,
    esaul,
    I don’t have enough of your optimism right now, guys, I’ll give you your truly loyalty and perseverance, I’m really sure that you will not leave your friend in a difficult moment! And I envy DAMA that in the light of recent events and his decisions he still has supporters, more like you! I support you, but not him!
  23. Aleksandr3
    Aleksandr3 5 May 2012 19: 23
    0
    The warriors bought you, but the patriots of the cocks do not want to admit it!
  24. liter
    liter 5 May 2012 22: 40
    -1
    Roll out the lips. Wait Serdyukov-Fursenki leave. Was there a team from the State Department? Russia is collapsed and the people are not yet 100% duped.
  25. 443190
    443190 5 May 2012 23: 39
    +2
    That's interesting ... And on May 9, these two clowns and stools will again be taking a parade sitting?
  26. suharev-52
    suharev-52 6 May 2012 00: 18
    +5
    The article is a plus. For the rest - no comments. Let's wait what will happen next. Hope dies last. Sincerely.
    1. esaul
      esaul 6 May 2012 08: 01
      0
      Quote: suharev-52
      Let's wait what will happen next. Hope dies last. Sincerely.

      Greetings, Comrade Sukharev, and support. drinks
    2. 443190
      443190 7 May 2012 13: 20
      0
      We must live and strive for the best and not die ...
  27. Botanologist
    Botanologist 6 May 2012 00: 40
    +6
    There are few answers to very "smart" questions like "is it better in Russia than in the USSR?" From one of the branches.

    The general state of the economy and the standard of living.

    Russia's GDP in 1999 was equal to $ 177 billion or $ 1210 per capita. GDP at PPP (purchasing power parity) was approximately $ 887 billion (or $ 6060 per capita). In 2010, compared to 1999, GDP increased 8,34 times and amounted to $ 1477 billion (or $ 10400 per capita).
    Russia's PPP GDP (compare IMF, WB and CIA data) was approximately $ 2,22 trillion (6 place in the world - between Germany and Great Britain).

    Gold reserves
    At the end of February of 2011, the gold reserves of Russia amounted to $ 487 billion (3 place in the world), which is 38,6 times higher than the level of 1999 of the year (then it was $ 12,6 billion). For comparison: Brazil was at the 5 place - $ 290,9 billion; at 6 place India - $ 284,1 billion; Egypt had $ 35,7 billion
    Russia today has about the same gold reserves as the WHOLE EU! The ECB now has 367,4 billion euros of foreign exchange reserves (or about $ 500 billion).

    State External Debt
    In 1999, the external State Debt of Russia amounted to $ 138 billion or 78% of GDP. By January 2010, it decreased 3,4 times and now equals $ 40,7 billion or 2,75% of GDP. For comparison: the US External Debt today is 343 times higher than Russia's external public debt and is already more than $ 14 TRILLION, or almost 100% of US GDP!

    Foreign direct investment (i.e., non-lending and portfolio investment)
    In the 2010 year alone, FDI in the Russian economy amounted to $ 13,81 billion (and in total in 2010, $ 114,7 billion in foreign investment was received in the Russian economy, which is 40,1% more than in 2009 year). This is more than the ALL volume of FDI in Russia for ALL years from 1988 to 1999 (by the beginning of 2000, ALL of the FDI accumulated in Russia amounted to $ 12,8 billion). For comparison: FDI in the Chinese economy for 2010 a year amounted to $ 105,7 billion. Or $ 79 per capita, against $ 98 for each Russian soul.

    average salary
    In 1999, it amounted to 1522 rubles. (or $ 62).
    In 2010, the average salary was already 22600 rubles (i.e., about $ 755) and was 14,8 times higher than in 1999.

    Average pension In 1999 was equal to 449 rubles. (or $ 18). In February 2011, the average pension (excluding regional benefits and surcharges) in Russia was already 8265 rubles. (or $ 285) i.e. increased from 1999 of the year by 18,4 times.

    Real income
    From 2000 to 2011, the real incomes of Russians (i.e., income minus 10% accumulated over 275 years of inflation) increased 2,6 times, salaries - 3 times, pensions - 3,5 times.

    Unemployment
    In 2000, it was 12,4%, and in 2010, it dropped to 7,2%. For comparison: In 2010, US unemployment was equal to 9,5%; in Lithuania - 16,0%; in Latvia - 19,1%; in Spain - 20,0%; in Egypt - 23% (according to unofficial data); in Libya - 30%; in Zimbabwe - 95%.

    Over the past 11 years, Chinese indices have risen by about 100%; Indian - on 260, Brazilian - more than on 300. The Russian RTS index rose from 179 points to 2087 points - more than 1000%.

    The USSR really was on an oil needle, but not because
    that he exported a lot of oil, but consumed a lot.
    Soviet Russia mined in 1988. 570 million tons of oil, and exported about 120 million tons, using 450 million tons.
    Modern Russia has been stably producing the last 5 years 490-500 million tons of oil per year, consumes oil several times less than in the Soviet period, which allows increasing the export dose of oil and oil products to 330-350 million tons.
    We are witnessing a revolution, Russia has restored in 2007. its economy with an excess of 10% (at constant prices), while saving more than 200 million tons of oil annually on domestic consumption, compared to the Soviet period, and earning about 110 billion dollars a year on this.
    All Soviet exports in the 1989 year amounted to about 70 billion rubles, or 130 billion dollars 2002. , this amount is commensurate with 110 billion dollars, which Russia has only on oil saving and its export.
    The share of machinery and equipment in the export of the USSR was 18%, and now they say 4%!
    Compared in absolute terms, the USSR-1989 exported machinery and equipment for 24 billion dollars, and Russia-2008 for 21 billion. dollars ... the difference is small, but given the scale of the USSR, it's just ridiculous)


    As you can see, the export of equipment this year will be equal to that of the USSR-89.
    There is no fall anymore and it was a percentage, because the total Russian exports EXCEED the total exports of the USSR 3 TIMES !!

    Something like that.

    Well, about Taburetkin - let's remember the warrior Grachev - well, what is not an example to follow! Do you want this?
    1. gojesi
      gojesi 6 May 2012 01: 14
      +3
      Quote: Botanologist
      As you can see, the export of equipment this year will be equal to that of the USSR-89.
      There is no fall anymore and it was a percentage, because the total Russian exports EXCEED the total exports of the USSR 3 TIMES !!

      Bow and thanks for your work! Huge PlayUUUUUSishche !!!
    2. 443190
      443190 6 May 2012 02: 11
      +1
      Well, that's right .... They began to consume less ... Because they killed the industry that consumed fuel. For that, the vacated volumes can now be easily drained abroad ... What is there to boast about? Hence the growth of exports both in volume and in money terms. You will study the export structure more closely and maybe we will not be educated.
      1. gojesi
        gojesi 6 May 2012 02: 20
        +5
        Quote: 443190
        Well, that's right .... They began to consume less ... Because they killed the industry that consumed fuel.

        read the post and do not be angry, but rejoice! The fact that you did not negate me means that not everything is lost love Chin up! good break through!
        1. 443190
          443190 6 May 2012 02: 34
          0
          And why should you be minus? Information for consideration was posted by a botanologist ... I’m also minus him.
        2. esaul
          esaul 6 May 2012 08: 15
          +2
          gojesi,
          And I give you a plus, Alexander, and I think that you deserve more, as a person who is able to think and separate the grains from the chaff drinks
    3. esaul
      esaul 6 May 2012 08: 08
      0
      Botanologist,
      I greet you, colleague, and thank you for such a comment! Plus from me - the same.
      Only - 100% that the sickle-and-hammer guys will not want to see this. What the hell ?! The main thing is to shout louder.
      An article about Poland came to my mind about this
      ------ But in Poland a generation has already grown up, familiar that they pay for a squeal, and they just squeal just in case, and suddenly they still get paid. In principle, the US has no reason to pay the Poles, because Poland has lost both land and technical development. And the Vatican of the Poles has no reason to support, in Poland the superiority of Catholicism over the Slavs has already been created.

      Whoever understands the trend, he is looking for good relations with his neighbors, and who did not understand, he will procrastinate the old claims and invent new ones, for even greater and greater pressure, which turns out to be a screech in reality. Of the real threats and causes - only the distribution of "Pole cards", which can shake the border of neighboring countries in the east and create reasons for war.
      The most interesting thing is that Russophobia is not peculiar to simple and business Poles, they evaluate happiness by the happiness of children, and children were most happy under socialism, not assuming that they would be banished to the whole world as "Polish plumbers in England."
      The highlighted lines are very suitable for the portrait of today's domestic anti-Kremlin pravodeboltsov.
  28. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 6 May 2012 03: 39
    +4
    half-fools have already pulled up all sorts of scumbag nonsense! in the 90s they put a bolt on the army - bad! the ships were not repaired but simply sent for scrapping - a nightmare! Now the army is giving finance - it turns out that they are not giving it! buy new junk equipment! they build and introduce built-in ships - a little slowly and not at all! gouged Georgia in 5 days, somehow unconvincing! 15 years of training did not carry out, the army is not operational! Now the teachings are constantly in all sorts of window dressing! you would ............................. you would be taken out in February to the reserve base area, unloaded into the snow by eggs, hang a couple of coils on top of the machine with a telephone and 2km in the forest, lay a line and then ask what is it, training or window dressing? turn on your head! that would not look!
  29. Magadan
    Magadan 6 May 2012 05: 19
    +1
    I know it’s very fashionable and cool to scold the government. And most importantly - it is completely win-win. Only I insist on a sober assessment of a person by the result, whether someone likes it or not. For similar questions:
    Quote: PatriotizTAT
    why put Serdyukov the furniture maker to the post of the Ministry of Defense .... well, and Fursenko there !!!

    I personally will not have answers and I also ask such a question. It can be assumed that a competent military man at the head of the Ministry of Defense is now simply not needed, because no dangerous wars are foreseen. A certain outsider is needed, not smeared with mutual responsibility among thieves-generals. What happens with the reforms, we do not know. It remains to believe and wait.
    Is it possible to believe? So far, I think so. I have seen the defense of Ossetia and now I see a position on Syria. From this I conclude that the power is patriotic. But this is my opinion, based on the actual cases that our leaders did.
    I can’t say anything good about Fursenko, all the more so about EG. Stupidly copying the failed system of American education is a minimum mistake.
    But also remember, we are waging a war of war against our resources, which, I remind you, 40% of all the world’s on 2% of the world’s population. The layouts of this war we do not know. Accordingly, we do not know any secret moves, including the distraction of the enemy’s attention. We can only evaluate whether Russia is growing or bending. I think it’s still growing
    1. 443190
      443190 6 May 2012 09: 10
      +3
      Well, yes .... The generals are completely thieves and Serdyukov and his entourage are angels who are not tied to anyone !!! More absurd assumptions have not heard.
  30. Geton
    Geton 6 May 2012 13: 59
    -1
    Putin is a godfather of the occupation administration, which has been killing our people and our country for 25 years.
  31. Fox 070
    Fox 070 6 May 2012 17: 11
    +5
    [quote = Aleksey67] Yesaul in my memory has never offended anyone, and for me it is a FACT, and you appearing out of nowhere and at once INSURING simply full ZERO.
    Worthy! Manly! [Quote = Geton]
    Putin is a godfather of the occupation administration, which has been killing our people and our country for 25 years. [/ Quote]
    In my opinion, Putin pulled our country out of such shit that it’s even scary to look back, but unfortunately, he is not omnipotent. Otherwise, you, Mr. Geton, would now communicate with real godfathers in their real habitat, which, by the way, I wish for all the other orange liberals.
  32. LiRoy
    LiRoy 6 May 2012 19: 59
    +5
    Medvedev’s only task, which he dealt with, was to serve 4 years at the post, and nothing extraordinary happened during this time, and then transfer power to Putin. Most likely, another 12 years of Putin awaits us.
    1. 443190
      443190 6 May 2012 22: 50
      +2
      And maybe more than 12 years. Amending the law is not so difficult having a majority in parliament. So we can reach life-long rule, and there you look and crawl through the kings with the subsequent dynastic hierarchy.
  33. nokki
    nokki 6 May 2012 20: 11
    +2
    "That is why Stalin is a hero for us, and Chubais is a scoundrel ..."

    Read more: http://topwar.ru/14139-malenkie-malchiki-igrayut-v-kubiki-a-medvedev-igral-v-str
    anu.html

    Very true remark!
  34. Botanologist
    Botanologist 6 May 2012 21: 06
    +2
    esaul
    With a kind word - thanks.
    And it’s not just the commies that shout "usepropaloshefuseepone." Look at Democrats, Liberals, etc. For this whole gang - the fraternity, the worse the better.
    Although I sincerely feel sorry for them. I know many of these "truth-tellers" - these are unfortunate people with complexes, who understand that their chance is to scream "usepropaloshefusefuse" and earn gratitude (even a ring in the nose).
    This does not apply to the broad Russian natures, who do not care what and whom - just to get in a fight in a fight. For them, the mental process is a disgusting state, now they need everything and the best in the world, and three pennies each. And the fact that politics miscalculates for 50 years in advance - they do not even imagine such a process. For them, next Monday is already terra incognita.
    I am grateful to you for watching the numbers - they are without emotions, you can’t argue with them. that’s how 443190 (3) And for what to minus you? Information for consideration was posted by a botanologist ... I’m also minus him.
    The real man tried to make a man think ... But he has nothing.
    1. 443190
      443190 6 May 2012 22: 53
      0
      What beautiful words ... How pathetic it sounds ... But the output is zero ... Think about yourself. Maybe you are mistaken?
      Well, as for the numbers, this is a golem chatter. Face the truth. What do we produce OUR other than resources? What can we produce ourselves? Even the development of the marine shelf invited foreigners because of the lack of technology and equipment. Carefully read the article. It is also desirable to understand what is written between the lines. And also understand why in the richest country in the world people live a little better than North Koreans. We do not take large cities as an example. It is enough to get out of the outskirts into the outback. Everything is clearly visible there. So conversations are good ... Yes, no arguing against facts.
  35. patriot2
    patriot2 6 May 2012 22: 56
    +4
    Hmmm, we talked. How many people - so many opinions. But the realities are such that life has become better: until for this "chatter" no one was imprisoned, not shot, as under Beria. To this day, the Swamp get-together periodically arises - Nemtsov and Company are having fun in full. Under Stalin, they would have gone there (they simply would not have reached Bolotnaya). Who is to blame for the fact that the 5th column gave a lot of freedom - LADIES and Putin, and even with the prospect of forming a bunch of dwarf parties to launder money from foreign sponsors. Amers and NATO do not need a strong Russia, they need our bowels, not people. Here are just some who sold out like a bad boy for a box of cookies and a barrel of jam, what became of him everyone knows. The people are not Moscow and St. Petersburg, but the villages of Malinovka, Gadyukino and others, where people who do not have such wealth as the capital's "muffins" live, but who love their village or city and Russia. So I understand.
  36. 443190
    443190 6 May 2012 23: 42
    0
    Kutuzov was right - "Russia is not lost with the loss of Moscow."
  37. mars6791
    mars6791 7 May 2012 00: 30
    -2
    But who cares whether Medvedev or Putin doesn’t depend on us who will be at the power trough. Some call the Georgian gang an army, and they trumpet victory in the war. Another compares Russia with the USSR, and Russia even catches up with the USSR in production, some kind of nonsense. In general, boredom.
  38. Magadan
    Magadan 7 May 2012 01: 29
    -1
    Quote: 443190
    .... Generals are entirely thieves and Serdyukov and his entourage are angels who are not tied to anyone !!! More absurd assumptions have not heard.

    I don’t know whether he is a thief or not, but I suppose that they put an outsider who was not tied it is with army thieves It’s quite normal practice and I don’t see anything absurd. I would do the same.

    Quote: 443190
    And also understand why in the richest country in the world people live a little better than North Koreans. We do not take large cities as an example. It is enough to get out of the outskirts into the outback. Everything is clearly visible there. So conversations are good ... Yes, no arguing against facts.

    Again stories about the "beggarly standard of living." In short, if a Russian family with two children has a total income of 40000 rubles / month, then this will be the standard of living of an American family with a total family income of 90000 dollars a year, because after all the obligatory payments (such as communal apartments, insurance, taxes, mortgages, etc.) from an American family for food, clothes, etc. will remain even less than 40000 rubles per month. That is why you see our compatriots vacationing everywhere over the hill, and at this time the Americans are plowing like the damned so that they will not be kicked out of their house for non-payment.
    How many families in Russia have 40000 rubles per month I do not know, but along the way there are not so few.
    Your comment about the rampant Russian poverty made sense in 90, now it only causes a smile.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 7 May 2012 11: 47
      +2
      How many families in Russia have 40000 rubles per month I do not know, but along the way there are not so few.

      If not known, do not speak. Better say what you know.
    2. 443190
      443190 7 May 2012 12: 35
      -2
      Really, if you don’t know then don’t speak. 40000 r. per month .... What country do you live in? So smile ... This is the first sign of a diagnosis.
      And tell me what an army thief is worse than a civilian thief. The same eggs .... side view.
    3. 443190
      443190 7 May 2012 16: 34
      +1
      And with these 40000r. we don’t seem to pay for anything ??? Or communal and mortgage are cheaper here ??? Yes, and loans in general at 0% give and forgive the non-payers?
  39. Fox 070
    Fox 070 7 May 2012 08: 12
    +1
    patriot2,
    Quote: patriot2
    Who is to blame for the fact that the 5th column was given a lot of freedom - DAM and Putin,

    And in my opinion it is correct that Putin gave them more freedom. so it’s easier to count them all and keep them on a short leash. You do not need to pick out any of the cracks like cockroaches. They themselves climbed into the light of God. wassat And the more they rally on Bolotnaya, being under supervision, the less reason their owners will have to reproach the leadership of our country for clamping down on "liberal freedoms" and, as a result, there will be more time to restore order within the state and to re-equip the army good
  40. Odinplys
    Odinplys 7 May 2012 08: 33
    -1
    By agreeing to participate in the presidential elections in Russia, D. AND . Medvedev ... well understood that in the event of the failure of Putin's plan ... they alone ... will be eaten without seasoning ... without sprinkling with salt ... and still not be afraid ... getting involved in the battle for Russia ... along with Putin ...
    And of course, many do not like it ... I believe that he adequately fulfilled the task assigned to him ...
    The President of Russia ... Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev ... a loyal friend ... an honest man ... a decent citizen ... and a patriot of Russia ...
    And let many here drown in saliva ... But this is just so ...
  41. Vlad7461
    Vlad7461 7 May 2012 09: 16
    +1
    Unforgettable words of Medvedev: Enough to nightmare a business, and then actions to limit the checks of so-called businessmen. After that I want to say: Dmitry Anatolyevich, stop nightmare people.
  42. 443190
    443190 7 May 2012 12: 56
    0
    In 2001, Putin closed the Russian center for radio interception in Lourdes (Cuba). The United States has always been extremely nervous about the existence of this center.
    In 2002, Putin closed Russia's largest foreign naval base (in Kamrani, Vietnam)
    In 2003-2007, Putin removed from service and destroyed the most dangerous elements of the nuclear shield for the United States - military railway missile systems.
    In 2001, Putin decided to import spent nuclear fuel into our country.
    In 2004, Putin gave China a number of islands on the Amur River with a total area of ​​337 square meters. km, and his friend Medvedev gave Norway more than 87 thousand square meters. km of continental shelf
    And now you will tell me that he is not an agent of the State Department?
    1. Fox 070
      Fox 070 7 May 2012 13: 44
      +4
      And you did not forget, dear, what was happening in the country in 2000. When we were not paid money in the army for several months. What is the base? But the armored trains had already worked out and instead of them the Yankees had an even larger and much more modern hemorrhoids - Topol-M. Regarding the islands on the Amur: how much he gave, he took so much from them ... No need to distort the facts for yourself. He is to the State Department, like a bone in his throat and I wish that he would remain so!
    2. Odinplys
      Odinplys 7 May 2012 17: 03
      -4
      443190,
      Quote: 443190
      In 2001, Putin closed the Russian center for radio interception in Lourdes (Cuba). The United States has always been extremely nervous about the existence of this center.

      But you would have tossed some money on the maintenance ... and wouldn’t close it ...
      And today a decision has been made to put into operation ... a similar facility in Jordan ... it's like ... Not happy ... ???
  43. 443190
    443190 7 May 2012 14: 52
    0
    Oh oh .... I completely forgot how in July I received a monetary allowance for February ... in 1996 .... And nothing was happy. how he served by conviction and not for money in Jed. But Poplar, alas, is tied to the basing area as a dog to a chain box .... So it was not for nothing that they lobbied for the destruction of railway complexes.
    And let me know what it is that we were able to take from China in exchange for the islands on the Amur?
    1. Viking
      Viking 7 May 2012 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: 443190
      And nothing was happy. how he served by conviction and not for money

      Didn't you have to eat? This is great. In those years, for example, I have not seen "rations" for over a year. He lived in debt and worked hard at "left" jobs.
      1. 443190
        443190 7 May 2012 16: 32
        0
        But we didn’t receive them at all .... Yes, and there was no work .... As it’s not, the nearest city is 250 km .... And around the mountains ... and a border of 30 km.
  44. Fox 070
    Fox 070 7 May 2012 15: 22
    +2
    We divided the disputed territories equally, so that no one remained in the loser. Yes, Poplar is attached, but it is painfully large area and the number of these areas is much more than those three trains that have already worked out their motor resources. And finally ... I served not for money, but for pruning. So, I’m an ideological servant, but bringing monetary allowance home every six months and looking at a hungry family, I did not feel much joy. We survived only thanks to the devotion of my deceased wife ... So then ... And our bases will still be back!
    1. 443190
      443190 7 May 2012 16: 30
      +1
      But haven't we distributed too many disputed territories? Can you also listen to the Kuril Islands in half with Japan?
      1. Fox 070
        Fox 070 7 May 2012 16: 48
        -1
        Well, it's vryatli. We honestly repulsed the Kuril Islands from the Japanese. You still offer to give Kaliningrad! And in the disputed territories with China, we just laid a paw after the Second World War. It was their whole land. So that we are also in the black. and just don’t give anything to anyone. Now is not the time of Catherine.
        1. 443190
          443190 7 May 2012 16: 52
          +1
          For 70 years these lands have been ours ... And here again, and on you ... controversial ... They gave it away. Maybe then also Karelia Finam ... if they ask me well ... Even 20 years ago, with that collapse and mess, there were no thoughts about it.
          And here's a short list of possible complaints.
          Disputed territories of Russia

          1. Kuril Islands
          The USSR was annexed at the end of World War II. Japan claims the islands of Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan and Habomai (Northern Territories).

          2. The shelf of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk
          Since 2001, Russia has been trying to prove that the continental shelf of the country continues right up to the Kuril Islands. Now this shelf is located outside the Russian economic zone, which is 200 miles from the proven border of the continent.

          3. Tuzla Island
          The island was part of the Krasnodar Territory, then it was transferred to the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and in 1954 it became part of Ukraine. In late 2003, Russia began to build a dam to the island of Tuzla. Insisting that Tuzla is a spit, Russia hopes for the joint use of the strait, without a state border on the water surface.

          4. South Ossetia and Abkhazia
          In August, Russia announced the recognition of the republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

          5. Shelf of the Barents Sea
          The Barents Sea is a region of intensive fishing and a rich and promising oil and gas province. The disputed zone with Norway has actually existed since the collapse of the Russian Empire.

          6. Ivangorod and Pechora region
          According to the peace treaty between the RSFSR and Estonia in 1920, the territory was part of Estonia; during World War II it was occupied by German troops, then - by the Soviet.

          7. Pytalovsky and Palkinsky districts of the Pskov region
          In 1920-1940 were part of Latvia, then became part of the RSFSR. In 1996, Latvia filed a claim to this territory.

          8. The border line of the Kaliningrad region and Lithuania
          Disagreements periodically arise regarding the determination of the border.

          9. Island on the Ussuri River
          The island was transferred by China to the USSR and remained part of Russia after its collapse. The Republic of China (Taiwan) does not recognize agreements on the transfer of the territory of the USSR and Russia after 1931.

          10. Part of the territory of Tuva and Buryatia
          They belonged to Outer Mongolia, but after Mongolia gained independence from China, the territory came under Russian influence and in 1944 became part of the USSR as the Tuva People’s Republic. Claims are made by some of the political forces of Mongolia, as well as the Republic of China (Taiwan).

          11. Caspian Sea
          After the collapse of the USSR, the division of the Caspian Sea remains the subject of disagreement between Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Iran and Russia, who are interested in sharing oil and gas and biological resources of the shelf. In 2003, Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan signed an agreement on a partial division of the Caspian Sea.

          12. Polar territories
          The polar territories are claimed by Russia, Canada, the USA, Denmark and Norway, as well as three states that do not have oceanic borders - Iceland, Sweden and Finland. According to international law, an “Arctic” state can claim either 350 nautical miles of its continental shelf, or one hundred miles beyond, from depths of 2500 meters. To gain rights to a large territory, Russia is trying to prove that the underwater ridges of Lomonosov and Mendeleev are of continental origin, connected with the territory of Russia.

          13. The controversial section of the border in the Bering Sea
          The agreement with the United States on the delimitation of maritime spaces and shelf in the Bering Sea, signed in 1990, has not yet been ratified by Russia.
          1. Odinplys
            Odinplys 7 May 2012 17: 10
            -3
            443190,
            Quote: 443190
            For 70 years these lands have been ours ... And here again, and on you ... controversial ... They gave it away. Maybe then also Karelia Finam ... if they ask me well ... Even 20 years ago, with that collapse and mess, there were no thoughts about it.

            But if, with the help of such dull as you ...... these damn ... dei swamps to power would be dragged ... the question of the existence of Russia would arise ......
            1. 443190
              443190 9 May 2012 00: 52
              +1
              Believe !!! I love Russia no less than you, and maybe more. After all, for 20 years I was ready to give my life on her first order. Because it’s a shame that with such potential we live like savages.
            2. 443190
              443190 10 May 2012 00: 55
              +1
              If people like me think orange, then we will call you "OK" ... You have no opinion ... Uvas is only an idol that you worship meekly and thoughtlessly ... No questions asked ...
          2. Fox 070
            Fox 070 7 May 2012 17: 39
            -1
            I know this list no worse than you. I just can’t understand what you are trying to prove to me? That Vladimir Putin is not the president we need? And who do we need, in your opinion? Maybe Prokhorov with his E-mobile and an increase in retirement age? Also me, the guardian of the welfare of the common people! Or the talker Yavlinsky with his liberal values? He was repeatedly called to the government, but he simply got scared and chose to yap for power from around the corner! Here it is, your liberal banner! All of your rotten liberalism is to sit in a warm shelter, drink coffee and scream in full voice, hoping that they will hear you and give you grants for a well-fed life! I do not like the president, who was elected by the majority, leave, do not spoil the air and do not corrupt the youth, they still have to live and work in this country.
        2. Brother Sarych
          Brother Sarych 7 May 2012 17: 21
          +3
          Russia has not had any disputed territories with China for hundreds of years, the neighbors sat quietly and did not rock the boat, breaking their teeth, they began to make special claims when they saw that weaklings rose in power, starting with Gorby ...
        3. gojesi
          gojesi 7 May 2012 17: 27
          +2
          Quote: Fox 070
          And in the disputed territories with China, we just laid a paw after the Second World War

          Felix, I beg your pardon, but I want to make a small correction in your answer ... The fact is that in Russia, after the adoption of the "Greek faith" by Prince Vladimir, it became customary to conduct the border of the country along the river beds. In fact, in truth, our territory was far beyond the Amur, ON THE CHINESE WALL, which the mediocre government under the leadership of the Romanovs just later gave to China. On the part of the Great Chinese Wall that has not been restored, you can see that the loopholes are directed not towards Russia, but towards China ... This is our ancient territory! Which we recaptured from the "people of the Great Serpent", or Ahrimans, about 13 thousand years ago. This victory was immortalized by the image of the Slavic Aryan White Warrior on horseback, defeating the Great Dragon with a spear. This image was later stolen, however, as usual, by Christians, and they fastened it to themselves, calling the Horseman - George the Victorious ...
          Sincerely ...
          1. Fox 070
            Fox 070 7 May 2012 18: 03
            -1
            Alexander Zakharovich, with all due respect to my interlocutor, I can’t help but say that what you wrote is like some kind of opus in the style of Robert Govad. There is no Great Wall of China even 2500 years ago, Aryans, as a nationality, were formed no more than 1500 years ago on the territory of modern India, and even those more Slavs were never among the Aryan tribes. What 13000 years can be discussed if the most ancient civilization originated in about 6000 BC! You would have to write fantasy stories.
  45. gojesi
    gojesi 7 May 2012 18: 38
    +3
    Quote: Fox 070
    Would you like to write fantasy stories

    Fox's 70th birthday. I gave you information for reflection, and how to relate to it is your personal business. It depends on the level of intelligence, the general cultural level, education and the evolutionary threshold. You took the worst possible path — you undertook to advise me. Thank you this is unnecessary, I'm sorry - I do not need!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWwzC3IH978
  46. gojesi
    gojesi 7 May 2012 19: 04
    +1
    Quote: gojesi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWwzC3IH978


    and further. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AREgJMa_yuM&feature=related
    1. Fox 070
      Fox 070 7 May 2012 19: 37
      -3
      Fails you, Alexander Zakharovich, your intellect laughing I'm not born 70! And my education is all right! I have no doubt that you do not need my consultation, I am not a psychiatrist! But what you really need is a long and in-depth treatment in one of the psychiatric clinics! Desirable abroad of our long-suffering Motherland! There are enough of their "intellectuals" here! I wish you a happy evolutionary development! fool wassat
  47. kasper
    kasper 7 May 2012 20: 59
    +1
    You scold Medvedev, but he did not let Georgia do things, started military reform, significantly increased funding for various industries, raised the salary of the police and military, did not allow a tough financial crisis, carried out minor purges and much more, so to say that he didn’t did-ignorantly. Much has been done, much remains to be done. (already to V.V. Putin)
  48. Magadan
    Magadan 7 May 2012 23: 45
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    Quote: 443190
    And with these 40000r. we don’t seem to pay for anything ??? Or communal and mortgage are cheaper

    You want to say that in Russia husband and wife together 40000 p./month do not earn ?! What do you star gentlemen?
    With 40 thousand, the communal apartment will be somewhere 3-4 thousand (in Magadan it’s better, and salaries are higher), but we won’t calculate the mortgage, because most live in apartments that they got from the communists for free! And those with free apartments in Russia far more than anyone who can ever afford a mortgage in the States.
    So it turns out 40 thousand minus 4000 thousand. My friends in Kazan pay even less for a treshka, along with electricity. A friend in Kaliningrad says that along with electricity, the 2000 fits in.
    It remains to minus gasoline (or pay for the bus) and kindergarten No matter how you say it, but something about 30000 thousand will remain for food, clothes, etc. The Americans will have about the same.
    But I’ll prefer it like ours., Because in which case I’ll just eat less, and they, in case of loss of work lose everything since they cannot pay bills for a house, communal apartment, etc. Hence the stress and the constant firing in their schools.
    1. 443190
      443190 9 May 2012 00: 50
      +1
      Well, and even they have 54% per annum of mortgages and other loans, and we are 19% .... And they buy goods many times cheaper than us .... And I generally stick out about the likeness of maternal capital. I took a loan ... gave birth to a child of a US citizen received 25% bonus from the government .... Second gave birth ... another 25% ..... A third citizen gave birth and everything ... The government will close all loans for you .... .And we have ??? 380000 rub. for the 2nd .... child and be happy !!! All the rest are not citizens ... so ... cannon fodder ....
      So not those lovers of GDP and LADIES ... In our country, TROUBLE TIMES have come !!! In 20 years they’ll write like that ...
  49. Botanologist
    Botanologist 8 May 2012 00: 28
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    Magadan
    I agree completely. I was in the States, there the sweatshop system is a reality, not a theory about which our whiners from the site know only from books.
    The standard of living, of course, is good there while you pay. But don’t pay - live in the Negro quarter. I visited them. Our shit would go there, to the eternal settlement.
    And about the cries about Putin, bad and Bulk good - the guys just forgot the lessons of history. Professional provocateurs rarely live to see the end of revolutions - Navalny and his accomplices will slaughter his own sixes.
    And Putin, who "passed everything," is slowly restoring Russia.
    And this causes the most burning hatred of our interlocutors - such as 443190 (3) and others like them.
    Just what to talk about with them?
    And finally, a couple more arguments:
    According to Rosstat, the export of chemical products in January-October 2011 amounted to 25,2 billion dollars in value terms and increased by 2010 percent compared to January-October 28,5.
    The volume of agricultural production in January-November of 2011 in farms of all categories in current prices, according to preliminary data, amounted to 121,7% of the corresponding period of 2010 of the year, or 3432,6 billion rubles.
    We have 3 place in the world for milk production. 3 place in the world - according to gold reserves. The second place in the world is the export of arms, which does not apply to the raw materials sector.
    So we’re not crying, but proud of a country that has experienced several revolutions, and at the same time did not end up in the Stone Age.
    And then we have a lot of people who wish not to do a damn thing, but to live in a country with the highest tax levels (Sweden) or the toughest labor system (USA).
    And by the way, do you know how the US gets fired? Just in the morning, having come to work, your card does not work at the door. A security guard comes out, escorts you to the workplace, and you take 30 minutes to collect your money and, fuck, to the stock exchange. But do not like it - in Russia, the right to download on sites and listen to tales about Western democracy.
    1. 443190
      443190 11 May 2012 22: 22
      +1
      Nerd !!! And you did not think that the entire current political course is aimed at turning the country into a huge black ghetto .... So there is nothing to talk about with you. You need to live not by dreams soaring in the clouds but by realities.
      And as for where and what place we occupy in the world, you don't need to get carried away. As the hero of one famous book used to say ..._ "never read the newspapers before dinner ..."
      And by the way, about the dismissal .... And we get fired like that ... Even more abruptly it happens ... by phone call and without calculation.
  50. Magadan
    Magadan 8 May 2012 01: 21
    -2
    Botanologist!
    Thank you for your support, I also managed to live and work there and have no illusions about a "good life there" for a long time.
    Correctly you called some citizens whiners. They have learned their mantra "There is poverty everywhere, and abroad there is beauty" and they chant it at all angles. But in real life, on facts and figures, it turns out that A Russian family with a family budget of 40 thousand rubles per month, provided that their own housing (and not in a mortgage) is the standard of living of an American family with a family income of 90 thousand dollars per year, provided that housing is mortgaged. It is not fair to say that we are also paying the mortgage, maybe. in 70% of cases, either the husband or wife inherited their house for free from the "damned communists". And if this house is sold, then you can build the same house, 20 km from the city, as in the USA
    All of these high American / European salaries are common Hollywood-style eyewash. All this "high" salary is withdrawn by 80% by the US system itself, and in reality the American family has $ 1000 for a month. What kind of shisha they then pay for the education of their children is generally a mystery. Those I met took out loans for education. I don't know how they were calculated later.
    1. 443190
      443190 9 May 2012 00: 42
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      Well, build a house 20 km from the city and feel all the charms of a suburban life and do not star here about the charms .... balabol !!! In AMERICA it didn’t grow together so you don’t have to go broke about your bad past !!! Whiner !!! First he ran away and then asked again. PROSTITUTE !!!