From MiG-29 to MiG-35. Swifts Air Group will receive the latest fighters

The Strizh air group will be one of the first to receive the latest MiG-35 fighters, Lieutenant-General Andrei Yudin, deputy commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, said, adding that the fighters will arrive at Kubinka air base after state tests are completed. The group is currently piloting MiG-29 fighters.

It is planned to retrain the pilots of the Strizhi air group to the MiG-35 fighter. Now the state tests of the aircraft are being completed. After their completion, the latest machines will be used by the squadron of the Strizhi aerobatic team.

- he said

At the same time, Yudin noted that the very first MiG-35 will receive the State flight test center in Akhtubinsk, then the plane will go to the Lipetsk aviation center, which includes the Kubinka air base.

Also, the commander of the Air Force said that the pilots of the “Russian Knights” air group had fully mastered the Su-30CM fighters.

Su-30M is an aircraft of the 4 ++ generation, which has very high combat characteristics, including flight ones. To date, the “Russian Knights” have fully mastered this fighter, the pilots, in addition to group aerobatics, are already performing six, doubles and counter aerobatics

- said the udin.

Comments

[Hunter 2]

Again news from the future! There is no timeline or quantity ....
Why is this ??? Will do - rejoice!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Hunter 2

Again news from the future!

Well, the Knights have already been transplanted from the SU-27 to the SU-30SM ... I think the MIG-35 Swifts will be received in the near future. At the same time, I won’t be surprised if, after 2 years, the Knights switch to the SU-35S.

[tomket]

Quote: NEXUS

At the same time, I won’t be surprised if in a year 2 Vityazi transfers to SU-35С.

A Su-35 in piloting is preferable to SM?

[newcomer]

according to the estimates of the Knights themselves equally. just 30 chosen for the sake of sparky. during long flights, pilots take turns taking a rest.

[Alex777]

Will not be transplanted. It makes no sense.

[NEXUS]

Quote: tomket

A Su-35 in piloting is preferable to SM?

He is more maneuverable. For example, the SU-30 does not make a figure, “an inverted pancake” or it is also called an “inverted corkscrew,” unlike the SU-35 and SU-57.
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The SU-35 is just with one flyer, and the SU-30 is a spark.

[EvilLion]

Nobody will give them scarce cars.

[Letun]

Quote: NEXUS

Well, the Knights have already been transplanted from the SU-27 to the SU-30SM ...

Yesterday I was in Kubinka on a holiday. So he was unpleasantly surprised. Story "Knights" held something is not important. Unlike a similar event that was 2 years ago, when they were still flying the Su-27, the difference is very noticeable.

[vladfill]

Window dressing for the sake of a series of no money.

[NEXUS]

Quote: vladfill

Window dressing for the sake of a series of no money.

Nothing that Knights and Swifts are active combat pilots?

[vladfill]

From NOTHING and not - NOTHING.

[NEXUS]

Quote: vladfill

From NOTHING and not - NOTHING.

They themselves understood what they scratched here? I repeat, the pilots of these aerobatic teams are STRONG ACTIVE PILOTS, not elite clowns in order to amuse you.

[donavi49]

Well, in principle, the MiG-35 - they won’t give anything to the pilots. There are the same engines of the Sea Wasp as on the boat.

These are just very expensive boards - which, in fact, are not really needed by aerobatics. In terms of flight qualities they are +/- like shipbuilders (which is not surprising - because the Laner is unified with the new ship, and the engines are identical).

On the other hand - what else to change? MiG-29 do not build new ones. Second-hand patching with a large residual coating? So this is a so-so idea.

To remove part of the sides from the Algerian refusal? So these are quite combat aircraft. Plus, because of some dopilki (including the hump and + mass - with old engines) they still have worse maneuverability.

Writing Boats? Well this is a so-so decision. Moreover, a conflict of interest. VKS - Fleet.

For them, the best solution would be the MiG-29OVT. But he is one of a kind + engines of that configuration do not produce.

[newcomer]

why are you so minor about the 35th? it should become a transitional model to the 5th generation _ 4 two pluses. air marsh appropriate. and about OVT_ this is a sore subject.

[donavi49]

Well, aerobatics - this is not necessary. In the sense of filling and other things.

As for the transition model - the first order is more marketing (standing in service!) And pants support. For there Zhuk-M is slotted, there are no containers (or rather they are mock-ups), etc. Now it is actually a land boat. Only the second series from the 21 of the year will go to the very transitional one with AFAR and containers in the base.

[newcomer]

donav49, after all, “AME Beetle” has already passed certification, so it should already be with afar.

[figwam]

donavi49

Something you are wise here. Why for old swifts Mig-29 or Mig-29 OVT, if there is a new Mig-35 with the same OVT and a new radar. The aerobatic team is not only engaged in beautiful performances, pilots in Kubinka are just as fighting as everyone else, and they also practice aerial combat, work on the ground, fly on missile launches. This distinguishes them from all other aerobatic teams.

[tchoni]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: vladfill

Window dressing for the sake of a series of no money.

Nothing that Knights and Swifts are active combat pilots?

Tell me where these "BATTLE" pilots fought ...
It’s ceremonial-rider everything, like the “red fives” before the war in parades. Beautiful, spectacular, inspires .... And as it came to the "thin", it got out .... oh, oh .... and-16 is out of date ... oh oh we are not learned to aerobatics ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: tchoni

Tell me where these "Fighting" pilots fought ..

First, about the myth that the guys are not combat pilots. This is absolutely NOT. For example, here are a couple of combat leaflets from their part:

The guys constantly make training flights, and work out not only group aerobatics, but also imitation of combat situations. For the whole day that I was in Kubinka, they only practiced pair aerobatics only once. The rest of the time, flight tasks had little to do with demonstrations.

The Russian Knights and Swifts are not circus performers, but real combat officers who own their weapons much better than many other pilots in the country. Therefore, they were invited from combat units to aerobatic teams. But in case of a combat situation, don’t worry. They do not save, like the captain of the Costa Concordia.
Now about the principles of modern air combat. Firstly, by launching a medium-range missile, a modern fighter is forced to “highlight” it for a rather long time, that is, transmit target coordinates to it so that it knows where to fly. At this time, the fighter is limited in maneuverability and is open to enemy radar, that is, it is itself an easy target.

Secondly, the rocket engine runs only a few seconds and after that it is very limited in maneuvering. A missile can be fooled by thermal traps or simply “wound”, that is, dodging it until it runs out of inertia and it just falls to the ground.

Thirdly, most modern missile guidance systems use the Doppler effect, that is, they only see moving targets. If the plane turns around at a 90-degree angle to the course of the rocket’s flight, then it loses its target and can no longer capture it again. The so-called "attack failure" occurs.

After that, the fighter that failed the attack has some time until the next launch of the enemy’s missiles. At this time, he can approach the enemy fighter at close range, and launch his missiles on it.

Moreover, our planes are much more sensitive than a direction finder capable of detecting an enemy fighter without including its own radar, which means that the enemy will not even understand that the SU-27 is nearby and is already aiming at it

Therefore, even in the modern world, close combat remains the main tactic of confrontation between fighters, and here our super-maneuverable "Dryers" simply have no equal.

For example, here is a video of a demonstration air battle between the SU-27 and the F-15:

Before flying, pilots study a planned flight schedule:

Check all systems before flying.

Folded parachute. Pay attention to the icing of the aircraft:

PS Russian Knights have their own website http://russianknights.ru Come visit. There is always the latest and current information about the group, and you can chat on the forum.
So do not write such stupidity anymore as the fact that the Knights and Swifts are circus performers.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: vladfill

Window dressing for the sake of ..

They really are a very successful advertising project. So in all countries: aerobatic teams are promoting the product on the market. A spark is needed to ride local, it helps a lot.

[Bar1]

Quote: vladfill

Window dressing for the sake of a series of no money.

the question is, why take Dimon who has no money forever, but are you holding on? What would airplanes not do?

[san4es]

Quote: vladfill

... there’s no money for a series.

... a series of how many cars - 50? .. 100? ... or more?
... Everything is going according to plan (rearmament / modernization (within the limits of possibility) ... for one, the Swifts will tell Migu what to add / fix

The Swifts air group is one of the first to receive the latest MiG-35 fighters, said Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces Lieutenant-General Andrei Yudin, adding that the fighters will arrive at the Kubinka airbase after completion of state tests.

[Bar1]

Quote: san4es

. Everything goes according to plan (rearmament / modernization

Do you know these plans?

[san4es]

Quote: Bar1

... do you know these plans?

... In fact and in general terms.

The share of new equipment in the Russian army is 58%, and this year it will increase to 62. This was said by Vladimir Putin. The president began a series of meetings on military topics. Today, representatives of the army and defense enterprises were invited. The main goal is to sum up the intermediate results of the state rearmament program and decide what weapons the military will need in the future.
The fulfillment of the state defense order almost in full over the past year suggests that the modernization of the Russian armed forces is going strictly according to plan. And this means that by the end of 2020, as was planned by the president, the composition of armaments and military equipment will be updated by 70%. / May 16, 2017 /

[Bar1]

Quote: san4es

.In fact and in general terms.

do not need common features, it is necessary for a moment35.

[san4es]

Quote: Bar1

... do not need common features, it is necessary for a moment35.

... Google to help

[Bar1]

Quote: san4es

Quote: Bar1

... do not need common features, it is necessary for a moment35.

... Google to help

I knew that you were a talker.

[san4es]

Quote: Bar1

... I knew you were a talker.

... Filter the bazaar ... on the net, pick your finger before slogan slogans

Bar1 (Timur) Yesterday, 16:42 ↑
Quote: vladfill
Window dressing for the sake of a series of no money. But you hold on? What would airplanes not do?

As Kommersant learned, the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (RSK) MiG agreed on the number of the latest multi-functional MiG-35 fighters to be purchased as part of the state arms program for 2018–2025. The military will acquire 24 cars, six of which will go to the Swifts aerobatic team. The signing of the contract will not only load the corporation’s capacities, but will also allow more active promotion of products to foreign customers. To negotiate the purchase of fighters that are not in service with the producing country is now almost impossible.

[Sands Careers General]

Again news from the future! negative There are no terms or numbers ..

And who are you to personally tell you the timing and amount of equipment in the army?

[Karakurt]

Quote: Sands Career General

Again news from the future! negative There are no terms or numbers ..

And who are you to personally tell you the timing and amount of equipment in the army?

The same question arose after his comment, he is one of those who want to earn pluses on criticism, then such a trend appeared on the site Grigory

[Sands Careers General]

Who needs these advantages? I ask about specific things, but here are the pros.

This is not money, this is not food, the pros are worthless.

[Karakurt]

Quote: Sands Career General

Who needs these advantages? I ask about specific things, but here are the pros.

This is not money, this is not food, the pros are worthless.

Here, a certain category of people is not commenting for food and money, but for the sake of “title”, pay attention to his comments and you will understand

[Hunter 2]

General of Sand Quarries and Karakurt! First, poke - you will wives!
Secondly - for the gifted, News is what WAS AND IS! And then - Will, this is a prediction, a wang from astrology!

[Karakurt]

Quote: Hunter 2

General of Sand Quarries and Karakurt! First, poke - you will wives!
Secondly - for the gifted, News is what WAS AND IS! And then - Will, this is a prediction, a wang from astrology!

Aleksey, I didn’t poke you like, why show off indignation calm down, I live 10 km from Kubinka and I know from people who know when and how much, but you already knowing nothing left a comment (also the first)

[Sands Careers General]

First of all, you’re completely wrong, since your arguments are over.

And secondly, for such a "poke", for my wife, I can poke anyone who wants to according to the degree of his greyhound, from the boot under the tailbone to the butt on the back of the head.

And in general, try to speak in essence, and not be sprayed with thought.
And then the uncle administrator will come, and arrange your ass inquisition.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Sands Career General

First of all, you’re completely wrong, since your arguments are over.

And secondly, for such a "poke", for my wife, I can poke anyone who wants to according to the degree of his greyhound, from the boot under the tailbone to the butt on the back of the head.

And in general, try to speak in essence, and not be sprayed with thought.
And then the uncle administrator will come, and arrange your ass inquisition.

Intervening. And yet it’s indecent to “poke” strangers, but this is my opinion.

[Hunter 2]

I wrote everything in PM! To the heroes - the day after tomorrow, My cried hi!

[Muvka]

Meanwhile, the second MS-21 took off. I hope the news will be.

[vladfill]

To Prat & Whitney?

[Muvka]

Naturally. Toward the end of the year, he should rise to PD. If I do not confuse

[vladfill]

.... but what about the sanctions?

[Bar1]

and the army will not receive new twigs?

[Skifotavr]

Quote: Hunter 2

Again news from the future!

In my opinion, I have already been there - I read this news from the future a couple of years ago.

[Grandfather Makar]

This "hooligan" such machines can be trusted ..! They will squeeze all of them to the limit of the possible ..

[Samara_63]

It's time ... Swifts I like more Knights

[newcomer]

yok mokarek! read the headline, thought: well, here it is! after the article I thought: what is Yudin for? Bondarev promised this a year ago.

[Totah155]

Why rockets on pylons (or mock-ups)?
This is an aerobatic team

[Maximys]

Well, God forbid. There, they will squeeze out all the juices !!!

[tomket]

In general, the MiG-35 is heavier than the MiG-29, because it is not a fact that it will look preferable in piloting.

[newcomer]

where is it heavier then? almost one in one weight of empty gliders.

[Servisinzhener]

Only the maximum take-off weight has grown significantly. Empty weight increased by 100 kg.

[ANCIENT]

"Receive" when exactly? That fall, eight years from now? ??

[Guru]

In aerobatic teams, the skill is polished to jewelry accuracy, of course, having noticed certain problems during piloting, it is immediately reported to the manufacturer. For example, the Americans do not have an aerobatic team on F-22 \ 35 and there are problems, and they will not be able to eliminate them for a long time. Qualitative testing of the machine in non-combat conditions is provided only by the aerobatic team, at the same time, the aviation center is limited in time due to issuing piloting instructions, and not identifying problems when performing complex aerobatics.

[net0103net]

It's a good news.

[tchoni]

Again, circus clowns are first arming, and then the army? -)

[7gor]

They didn’t ask you ok

[tchoni]

And they didn’t give you a word, yakshi !?

[Beltasir matyagu]

Let them master. Pilots are not only engaged in advertising but also help to improve both the piloting technique and the machines themselves. Whose opinion is more valuable than not an ace pilot.

[mavrus]

Hunter 2 read and still do not believe in the Crimean bridge ... although before the opening a couple of weeks, but he still hopes for something. So with the Swifts, if only today they sat down and immediately flew ... And so it does not count. :)))

[Antidote]

Everything for the show, everything for the parade!

[Runoway]

that's really rzhach. NOT ONE DOES EXIST IN NATURE, and already the announcement of the gift to the swifts)))) Although they can be given, the same empty glider as the presented one! They don’t need a “complete set”.
But there is good news (not from the media, from production) after 3 weeks should get on the conveyor (information on the number and the customer no)

[Don]

The conveyor should not be idle, people need to pay a salary. The Egyptian contract is ending, and there were no other orders for Mig, so my MO had to shove these machines, from which our flyers rejected as best they could. But this small contract will not save the illustrious design bureau, because they are too behind, they will not catch up with others. And KB is really a pity

[Black Colonel]

The MiG of the 35th, in contrast to the 29th, has “gills” removed from above in favor of an additional volume of fuel tanks. But what about take-off and landing on a field airfield? Or is dust and small debris in the air intakes a thing of the past?

[iouris]

If I were a director, I would close this air circus. During the war, this is not useful.

[Don]

Circuses are also needed, they have their own audience

[nikoliski]

And when will the Su-57 go into the series, and not for showing off for parades? The MiG-35, with all due respect, is not able to fight the F-22 (I don’t understand at all who it will be fighting with, everyone switched to NATO for Eurofighter and F35 (which due to the smaller EPR, they will destroy the Mig 35 before he just sees them) China 5th generation harbands (and with their industry they will launch them in series earlier than the SU-57 in large quantities) if good Su-35s have already been sold to China, and They have more Su-30Ms than we do, MiG 35s are just released so that the plant does not stand, the plane is already outdated (the Indian tender has lost in all respects to Rafal, Brazilian Grippenu)