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Neighbors got into a fight in a Syrian house: Iran and Israel

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The behavior of Iran and Israel, who organized a “mini-warrior” among themselves on the territory of Syria for some reason, reminds of a joke about the family of gabrivtsy (if someone suddenly doesn’t know, they are residents of the Bulgarian city who became heroes of numerous anecdotes on their pathological survival) in order not to break or break anything at home, we went to sort things out with the smashing of dishes and a fight to our neighbor. Moreover, unlike the anecdote, here is a neighbor, Syria, as if not against such a situation, and also participates in a fight on the side he likes. At the same time, a neighbor who came to fight with another neighbor, for some reason, the owner of the house first of all tries to beat him in the face. Such is the Middle Eastern squiggle, you know ...


Neighbors got into a fight in a Syrian house: Iran and Israel


The chronology of the events of the tripartite (or more) “fights” of 9-10 of May is approximately the same, judging by reports from various Syrian sources, as well as official bodies of various parties. Of course, if you filter out the official propaganda of the Israelis about their “heroic”, well, just with the last strength, the fight against trying to attack from Syria, but not the attacker, Iran, and if their lies about losses and victories are also filtered ...

After the recent attacks by the Israeli Air Force on Iranian property in Syria, disguised as Americans from Eastern Syria, that behind the Euphrates, the Iranians have promised revenge. But the events under discussion began, as the analysis of the situation from Syrian sources shows, not from the Iranians, on whom the Israelis are blaming everyone, but from the Syrians themselves, more precisely, from their armed response to the latest Israeli intervention. Israeli artillery 9 May inflicted several artillery strikes on the positions of the Syrian ground forces in the area of ​​Khan-Arnabea, while the Syrians responded with mortars. Then the Israeli tank, as reported by the Syrians, fired several shots at the Syrians, and allegedly received an ATGM attack in response. Officially, the Israelis deny the shelling, the loss, of course, too, well, so they, like the "Nebratev", "no losses" are always almost, it is clear.

Following the Israeli UAVs attempted to penetrate the airspace of the SAR in the area of ​​Quneitra. And at the Damascus International Airport, a LORA type OTR was fired, shot down by an air defense system of the SAR (probably, “Buk”, but maybe, “Armor”). Then several more missiles were fired, including at Iranian targets. But they were also mostly intercepted. In response, the Iranians launched a certain number of Faur-5 type NURs (or Fajr-3), with a launch range of up to 43km, at Israeli military sites. Also, units of the 7 th mechanized division of the SAR Armed Forces received an order to strike back (that the Israeli attacks on Syrian targets would be answered - the Syrians had warned in advance). The strike at midnight was afflicted by the MLRS "Uragan", the expense was about 40 NUR (that is, they fired from about three cars). As a result of these and subsequent attacks, the Israelis first recognized "some" destruction and losses at military bases, and then thought better of it (no one saw it - the plane was not shot down and failed, right along the road). And they began to tell that everything was intercepted by the notorious "Iron Dome" (which is designed to combat non-speed semi-handicraft NURs and nothing more), and everything else did not reach and fell by itself, and there were no losses and damages, as always. Only children can believe in fairy tales about the underrun NUR “Hurricane”, and then, if they are not from the Donbass - they know about the RSZO, as it were, not many more adults. And the Israelis will not have any recognized losses and destructions until one of the IDF servicemen posts a photo on Facebook in spite of the strictest restrictions. As they say in one well-known advertisement, "I did not post it - it did not exist, but I posted it - it was." Syrian sources claim that the following targets were attacked and significantly hit: military reconnaissance center, border post or its local counterpart, two EW centers, communication stations, a helipad, the IDF's 810 headquarters and several other facilities in Hermon, and which something "air defense position."

The Israelis immediately attacked a number of Iranian and Syrian targets in the province of Damascus from aircraft that were already on duty in Lebanese airspace and from their territory. The X-NUMX F-28I and F-15C fighters launched 16 (obviously, 60, 56 missiles aboard) subsonic tactical CR "Dalila" (2 km range, 250 kg weight) and from the ground Approximately 250 of the Spike-NLOS Ultra-Long Range ATGM was released. Several OTP LORA and Harop low-speed disposable UAVs were also used. The blows were struck in four waves during the 30 hours, during which their Syrian 10 mehdiviziya attacked Israeli targets with 2 with Hurricane missiles. Moreover, the first three waves of the SAR defense missile successfully reflected, but from the fourth missile it went to targets much more. Probably, or the ammunition did not have time to recharge and spare units to enter into battle, or there were some other reasons. But in general, more than half were shot down from a salvo in 7 cruise and ballistic and guided missiles, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, and they should be believed. Some of the Syrians reported on the order of 20 downed products. There are videos on the Internet with shots reflecting the impact and shooting down targets, but, of course, the number of intercepted targets cannot be identified by them, and it is not necessary. There are photos with shot down "Dalilah" and "Laura".

However, it is unknown how many of the unbroken missiles still hit the target. Officially, the attacks were reflected only by the Syrian air defense, but given the close integration of the Russian and Syrian parts of the RTV and ZRV air defense in the country, coordination and management of the Syrian air defense from the command post of our group in the SAR, this statement is valid only partly in relation to the actual Russian divisions, which are not in the south of the country. In any case, it is worth noting that the Syrian air defense system, recreated and strengthened with the help of Russia and with the support of EW systems, quite successfully reflects the third massive strike of the KR and OTR, not to mention a dozen far smaller blows - the experience is, of course, unique and at stories modern wars are no longer occurring. And for our specialists, this experience is of paramount importance.

For Israel’s Syrians and Iranians losses, of course, everything is bravura - allegedly hit 50 targets, including air defense systems, radar, C-200ВМ, С-75М positions (really, this antiquity still shoots there - I can’t believe it at all) "Buk-M1-2E" and "Carapace-C". But from the evidence base nothing is presented except the video of the defeat of the Pantsir missile at the runway of the Mezze airbase, which was shot, as it was first stated, with the SPN Spike-NLOS. However, this is definitely not "Spike", much more the picture looks like a CD like "Dalila". However, the Syrians published a photo of the affected ZRPK, and it is clear that the damage to the actual fire module is minimal, it is clear that either there was no direct hit, or the attacking ammunition had a very weak warhead. They claim that it was the Harop one-time low-speed UAV, which most likely was.

Why was the "Shell" hit (we will not say "destroyed", according to this photo it is difficult to declare this, but there was a defeat)? On some information resources, a “crying” with tearing of clothes and dusting with ashes has already been lit up on this occasion, while on the other, located on “non-fraternal territory”, on the contrary, they are dancing with joy. As reported by Syrian and our sources, the ZRPK managed to shoot its own ammunition (the photo shows that TPK ZUR was scorched, that is empty), and was waiting for reloading, the calculation that was assigned to pull fresh ammunition was already close to the installation, the crew obviously helped them. The commander of the calculation of the complex, Lieutenant Colonel Aykham Habib was near the car when he noticed the approaching drone. He rushed back to the car, probably to hit him with guns (if there was ammunition there, which is not a fact at all) or, perhaps, to withdraw the complex, but he did not even die. Why ZRPK was not on a disguised and protected position, and ride on the runway of the airfield - a difficult question. They may have changed positions when firing (the Pantsir, like the latest versions of the Thors, M2U and M2, shoots well on the move with cannons and SAM), fearing a strike, or spare ammunition was stored elsewhere and they drove up there. In general, there is nothing supernatural here, the complex was not in operation and without ammunition, the high voltage from the detection radar was, judging by the video, turned off. Now, if we could break through to a fully working complex, then it would be something to be proud of. Moreover, according to rumors, this is not the first combat loss of the Pantsir, they claim that the brave Emirati anti-aircraft gunners “yawned” such a machine to Yemen’s Hussites for quite a long time, more precisely, to the Iranian drone in their hands. And then the Saudi "Patriot" suffered innocently from the Yerat OTR arrived. And in general, there is no completely indestructible military equipment, even in museums, it sometimes suffers there.

There are no confirmations on “Buk”, so one can consider information about his untimely death as “linden”, on С-75 - similarly, although it would not be a pity to him. But there is something in C-200 that the Syrians admitted that one of the missiles of the last volley had managed to break through the air defense and electronic warfare curtains to the K-1В antenna post with the target illumination radar 5H62М and published a photo of the affected radar. This does not mean absolutely nothing for the SAR defense, because such antennas have always been spare, and disabling the ROC of one starting division does not incapacitate the division as a whole, and even more so - a group of divisions. Also recognized the loss of the old radar RTV P-35, and two ammunition depots and three dead (including Lieutenant Colonel Habib in the episode with the "Shell"). In general, the fact that C-200 positions, which are stationary, constantly attacked, and practically managed without losses in the materiel all the time, indicate a good cover with their EW and air defense weapons. Also lost one launcher RSZO "Hurricane", issued by the Israelis for Iranian - but this is the Syrian PU, the Iranians have not and have not.

It is possible that Iranian property has suffered more, but there is no information. But so far it seems that the “terrible Iran”, together with the even more terrible IRGC, its special forces “Quds” and General Suleymani personally - only serve as a scarecrow for the Israeli public to try, nevertheless, to destroy something there in such a hateful Syrian air defense, which suddenly, in just one year, has become strong and weakly pierced and continues to strengthen. But how can Israeli pilots now not be able to fly there, just like at home, what do these goyim even allow themselves?

In this case, it is interesting further reaction of Iran, and Russia, too. Iran is armed not only with a large number of ballistic missiles up to medium-range, but it also has high-precision BR and KR, and has experience in their combat use (BR) in Syria, last year, in the province of Deir ez-Zor, and KR - in Yemen, through the Hussites. And various MLRS, including long-range and in high-precision version, with the GOS - also available to the soldiers of Iran Rahbar is quite enough. Whether any blows from them will follow is unknown, hardly from the territory of Iran, the Iranians do not want to beat their faces and dishes. But from the territory of the SAR this can not be excluded.

But Russia does not need such an escalation. We and Israel have relatively close ties, and Iran is something like a temporary ally in the region, and Syria is our closest ally and patrimony for our bases. Therefore, the efforts of our diplomats and the military-political leadership will be aimed at easing the confrontation. On the other hand, we do not need Iran to drag us into an unnecessary conflict with Israel, there are no benefits to us, but Iran has a lot. But we cannot afford to bomb the territory of the SAR with impunity. That is, the air defense system in the south of the country, and not only there, will be further strengthened.

Separately, I want to say about the fuss around the delivery or non-delivery of C-300PMU-2 AAMS to CAP. Even if they do not suddenly put them there, in order not to aggravate relations with Israel, this does not mean that they will not be in the south of the country. Israel really does not want such air defense systems to end up in the hands of Syrians, although they have nothing against our divisions in the country (and if they had, we don't give a damn). And if somewhere in these parts there will be another base of the VKS “de jure”, and not “de facto”, as it happens all over Syria, where our planes and helicopters and covering their units ZRV air defense turn out to be on Shairat, then On Т4, then in Aleppo and for a long time from there, then there will be an occasion to protect this base and the entire surrounding area from air attack. Our own air defense system and air defense systems and with our own calculations. Is this option possible? Yes it is. Will the Israelis attack in such an area? No, they will not do. Of course, you can declare your competence in the fight against C-300 / 400, but there are no fools to try to prove them. Just find another area for their ambitions, until it is closed. But this option is better for Israel than the appearance of air defense systems in the hands of Damascus, which they are very afraid that they will almost shoot down their planes in the border areas. Russian will not do this. In addition, at one C-300 the light did not come together as a wedge, as at the means of zonal air defense, other options are possible, and they may turn out to be more terrible.

Well, and besides, the very threat of “we will put ZRS - we will not put ZRS” gives a tool to put pressure on Israel, and not only on it. And Russia will obviously use this tool actively. So there will be many more mutually exclusive and muddy statements. It will be important to look at subsequent cases. So far, the case suggests that in a year and a half, the air defense system of the SAR was raised from military ruins to such a height that it is capable of reflecting, and with a very good percentage of downed targets, massive raids of cruise and ballistic missiles. Who else can boast of a similar result achieved not in Twitter, but in reality? But alarmists and tantrums to such an argument do not react, they have “Putin continues to pour Syria,” which is the year in a row ... And the map of the country is increasingly repainted into the correct, red, government color.

And in general, it is better to look at the reaction of the Syrians themselves - it is extremely far from decadent, to be honest. On the contrary, they rejoice at the successes of their air defense and honor the dead heroes. For them, anyone, no matter how he died in these events, is a hero a priori, that, in general, is correct - “the dead do not shame more,” as Prince Svyatoslav used to say.
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  1. Terenin
    Terenin 12 May 2018 10: 22
    +9
    Neighbors got into a fight in a Syrian house: Iran and Israel Kommunalka, her mother ..., a bunch of children, and the climate is warm, summer all year round. In the Siberian climate, such as repeat fantasy fight quickly end.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 12 May 2018 15: 53
      +6
      Quote: Terenin
      In the Siberian climate, for example, the fantasy of a fight quickly ends.

      That's right. yes There, in the Far East, the Jewish Autonomous Region exists quietly and does not rush at its neighbors. laughing
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      2. aiden
        aiden 14 May 2018 23: 32
        0
        we Russians are well educated, unlike the Middle Eastern gopot, we have a different mentality. as in a joke you touch the tank ##### you will receive
    2. Maz
      Maz 16 May 2018 19: 06
      0
      Lord, exhale the air, it’s profitable for us, nothing personal, Just oil today at 78,1 ... all the same, Nehay, we are fighting not at a loss, but to ourselves in stupidity ..
  2. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 10: 31
    +23
    A good article, without tearing vests, tossing bonnets, but also without sprinkling ashes on the head and smearing snot on the cheeks.
    1. figwam
      figwam 12 May 2018 10: 48
      +11
      Well, at least some sort of analysis of the “flights”, otherwise the Israelis are already celebrating the victory, they injured Kamaz !!!)))
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 May 2018 12: 26
        +7
        Quote: figvam
        Well, at least some sort of analysis of the “flights”, otherwise the Israelis are already celebrating the victory, they injured Kamaz !!!)))

        There is one point in favor of the fact that the author of the article is very close to the truth. If Israel had not suffered tangible damage, the Jews would not have smashed the whole bazaar with discussion. On the other hand, the Syrians relatively calmly reacted to the Israeli strike without the hassle of intercepting as many rockets as they could.
        The carapace was in operation, which meant that there were intercepted missiles. The miscalculation of the Syrians was that when reloading the Shell of the Shell, it was not covered by either another Shell, or the TOP or any other air defense systems, while there was no disguise at all, that is, we can conclude that the Syrians wanted to quickly reload the air defense systems and advance to boundary, so that if further strikes would follow, to repulse them. But this did not happen and we must pay tribute to the Jews, well, you can’t refuse them patience.
        At the same time, the results of this missile strike and the previous ones are very clearly visible. I’m talking about the fact that the lion, and maybe the entire burden of repelling these attacks, was assumed by medium- and short-range complexes, while coping with this perfectly. Therefore, the transfer of the S-300 is in fact not so relevant for the Syrians at the moment (taking into account our thoughts on this matter), as the strengthening of the Syrian air defense systems with BUK-M2 / 3, or Viking, TOR-M-2, Bagulnik, Shell. And I am sure that these complexes will be delivered in the near future to Syria in the Israeli direction.
        What will Russia get? A run-in of new systems, such as Shell C2, Bagulnik, Buk M3 and the export version of BUK-Viking.
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          1. Bad_santa
            Bad_santa 12 May 2018 16: 57
            +4
            You should not argue like that. Not felt in your words Jewish monetary grasp. Let us cast aside all patriotic, moral, ideological and other universal views on the Syrian war and try to look at it purely in terms of material gain. Russia in the Syrian company lit up and showed its potential buyers of weapons what its weapons are capable of. All this war and its costs can be considered as advertising weapons. Moreover, it is the most accurate and objective. It’s not on TV to roll videos with beautiful plans for technology and use in sterile conditions. This is not the passage of equipment in the parade. War is the best advertisement for weapons.
            I do not consider Syrian air defense calculations to be fully trained. Yes, they can execute commands according to previously learned algorithms, but they don’t have a common understanding of the technology on which they work (and what to hide from some Russian military servicemen now in Russia itself). So even with such a crew, the Syrian air defense is not bad at managing threats. But the most important thing that no one noticed was that the calculation of the Shell believes in its air defense and decided not to disguise because of full confidence in it. And this is after several reflected hits. So before that, they reflected 100% of all attacks on the area of ​​their responsibility, which they now believed in their complete invulnerability.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 12 May 2018 17: 00
              +5
              Well then, you have to think. This is not a regular Tomahawk attack ... We have your showy showdown on the side
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 May 2018 17: 17
                +7
                Quote: Shahno
                Well then, you have to think. This is not a regular Tomahawk attack ... We have your showy showdown on the side

                This is your ostentatious showdown with Iran, dear. And this circus did not start yesterday. A cheap movie with how you damaged the Shell is of course an argument ... for downs and very ardent Jews. Well rejoice.
                And about it has no analogues ... dear, but please be so kind as to show me a Western analogue or your Armor ... and it is in the variant of the air defense system, and not the air defense system.
                And there we will sit together and laugh.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 May 2018 17: 14
            +5
            Quote: Doronkabilio
            The indirect damage is that the destruction of all these systems will be repeated, which will adversely affect their export potential.

            Are you serious? That is, you think that you are the only one so smart and the buyers of weapons are really stupid and not sighted? What damage is respected? Do not entertain yourself with illusions.
            Quote: Doronkabilio
            After all, stupid Indians do not read Vyatkin’s articles (Skomorokhov).

            Really ... Indians are stupid. They are completely blind and with brains in the Indian military-industrial complex, well, quite a guard.
            1. Bad_santa
              Bad_santa 12 May 2018 17: 30
              +5
              Our Oboronexport ruined Jewish boys all plans to increase arms exports. Therefore, such a squeak is heard. It’s pointless and even more so who in the tank to prove something is pointless, and I don’t think it’s worthwhile to show contracts, the workload of the military-industrial complex with foreign contracts for years to come, the growth of military exports, the expansion of countries of buyers of Russian weapons. And this individual personally knows the capabilities of Russian weapons better than foreign military analysts and military. Therefore, the Chinese, Turks, Indians, Saudis did not advise this character, they decided to buy Russian S-400 systems wassat Why spend on exhibitions, tenders, conduct tests when it was possible to pay a couple of shekels of Doronkabilio and he would advise them to buy S-400 or not lol
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                1. Bad_santa
                  Bad_santa 12 May 2018 17: 50
                  +2
                  India does not seem to abandon the S-400. Some countries, even under the threat of US sanctions, want to take them. Even with such a trump card, the Patriots cannot conduct open trade with the S-400. Although the S-400 cannot be called a child prodigy, he still has no competition at the moment. That the S-400, that the Patriot have their pros and cons, but your comrades here begin to carry frank nonsense. There are no weapons without weaknesses, and there are no absolutely professional calculations. So from normal comrades from Israel, I beg your pardon if I spoke rudely. I can’t just see when people turn off their heads and fall into a patriotic frenzy
          3. Munchhausen
            Munchhausen 12 May 2018 17: 28
            +1
            Unfortunately, not only read, but also write.
            Not in Russian, but in Russian.
            However, in the situation in the Shell it does not matter.
          4. Professor
            Professor 12 May 2018 18: 06
            +1
            Quote: Doronkabilio
            Russia will receive direct damage, because it will pay all for their money, the Syrians are insolvent. The indirect damage is that the destruction of all these systems will be repeated, which will adversely affect their export potential. After all, stupid Indians do not read Vyatkin’s articles (Skomorokhov).

            This is my demotivator. I personally did it. Where did you dig it?
            1. _Jack_
              _Jack_ 12 May 2018 20: 24
              +9
              This is my demotivator. I personally did it. Where did you dig it?

              defector-Russophobe, and on Russian forums all the time you sit, you hate your former homeland, and without communication with former fellow countrymen it doesn’t work out in any way?
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 12 May 2018 22: 48
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              This is my demotivator

              And it seems to me that half of Israel only speaks Russian. And by the way, something is not visible photographs of the massive successes of the Israeli Air Force.
            3. Phoenix_L'vov
              Phoenix_L'vov 13 May 2018 09: 05
              +3
              Olezhka, hi, here's a photo of one of the strangled Israeli trowels, to cheer you up and the right motivation:

              We can repeat, you just give us a reason ...
              Or do you think that since your Netanyahu walked with Putin, wearing a St. George ribbon for disguise, does this mean that you can engage in lawlessness in Syria? You're wrong again, Olezhka.
              1. borberd
                borberd 15 May 2018 17: 43
                -1
                I suppose you personally threaten us? So come, repeaters. And repeat.
                1. onega67
                  onega67 16 May 2018 12: 45
                  0
                  The most interesting thing is that now Israeli soldiers are very brave, without irony, but in the USSR courage and Jewish children were on opposite sides of the barricades. They have never been different.
      2. Cracker
        Cracker 12 May 2018 20: 04
        +3

        Is this this one? Well, a little battered, it is difficult to deny the obvious. Well, nothing, after the repair he will set the heat more than once.
    2. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 12 May 2018 20: 16
      +1
      An article to cover up to the indecent dual behavior of the Russian Federation in Syria: from terrorists .-. protects the Saudis and other Qatari protects, but not from Israel, and allows the bombing of the Syrian armed forces and the allied Iranian. Friendship with Israel is a myth, all actions from the armament of Georgia and other things have always been in the hands of the United States, and is built on essentially superficial personal visits to the Kremlin B.Natanyahu and at the same time constant anti-Russian actions in Syria, as the regular bombing of the Syrian armed forces and Iranian forces in Syria ... Natanyahu is replayed by political voyages and led by the nose of the Russian government ... It was noticeable on a May visit on holidays, B.Natanyahu takes the parade of the RF Armed Forces on Red Square, and Israeli forces at this time smash Syria ... What is it : stupidity, betrayal, flirting and worshiping a more powerful force ...
  3. Ncplc
    Ncplc 12 May 2018 10: 33
    +15
    Y. Vyatkin- I applaud while standing, such nonsense has not yet been here))))))))
    And this is in the “analytics” section, bravo.
    1. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 12 May 2018 11: 03
      +8
      Quote: Ncplc
      Y. Vyatkin- I applaud while standing, such nonsense has not yet been here))))))))
      And this is in the “analytics” section, bravo.

      What exactly is "delusional" in an article? Or is everything that is different from your view of the world - "nonsense"?
      1. Charik
        Charik 17 May 2018 00: 15
        0
        yes in kakahi threw a face here and foaming
    2. q75agent
      q75agent 12 May 2018 11: 06
      +6
      well done, you admit that you Jews are silent about your losses wink even often boastful scribbles of your fellow countrymen about the defeat of the air defense of the SAR in the 1982 year of lies !!! , Israel recognized the loss of the 1 aircraft only because ... both pilots were in POW !!! in fact, it was shot down from 24 to 34 different UAVs, helicopters and airplanes tongue Here is a video from a Jewish wedding on the night of May 10 .... wink missiles from Syria flew to you, but you hit the fat you skillfully hide
      1. Professor
        Professor 12 May 2018 12: 37
        +9
        Quote: q75agent
        well done, you admit that you Jews are silent about your losses wink even often boastful scribbles of your fellow countrymen about the defeat of the air defense of the SAR in the 1982 year of lies !!! , Israel recognized the loss of the 1 aircraft only because ... both pilots were in POW !!! in fact, it was shot down from 24 to 34 different UAVs, helicopters and airplanes tongue Here is a video from a Jewish wedding on the night of May 10 .... wink missiles from Syria flew to you, but you hit the fat you skillfully hide

        Well, of course. After all, weddings take place exclusively at midnight. How else? And it’s not important that the video from the wedding near the Gaza Strip. Write the main comment.
        1. borberd
          borberd 15 May 2018 17: 50
          -1
          Yes, and filmed in 2014.
        2. Charik
          Charik 17 May 2018 00: 16
          0
          so bloodsuckers at night and get married
      2. Do not care
        Do not care 12 May 2018 12: 41
        +8
        This is a 2006 video of the wedding of Israeli Arabs (Druze). Today, even on the cheapest phone, the picture quality is much better
        Lenta.ru is not a reliable source of information.
    3. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 12 May 2018 11: 57
      +6
      Alex from Israel-it is a pity that there are still no cons-you deserve them! Well, justify, that the author does not thank God? ??
      1. Merold
        Merold 12 May 2018 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: ANCIENT
        Alex from Israel-it is a pity that there are still no cons-you deserve them! Well, justify, that the author does not thank God? ??

        Do not want the author to ask the same questions to his confident statements? Well, you are a lover of accurate facts. wink

        No? Why?
    4. Professor
      Professor 12 May 2018 12: 32
      +10
      Quote: Ncplc
      Y. Vyatkin- I applaud while standing, such nonsense has not yet been here))))))))
      And this is in the “analytics” section, bravo.

      Not true. It was. There will be more.

      As always, everything is turned upside down. I especially liked the photos of the intercepted Laura and Delilah. What is there to argue with? With the fact that our planes were on duty in the sky of Lebanon, or that our tank caught ATGM? Dismiss I'm leaving for the next branch. It’s more interesting there. hi
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        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 12 May 2018 14: 09
          +8
          Quote: Starik72
          Profusor. That is Oleg. Let me get one more warning, but I’ll write directly: Please shut up with your verbiage. Israel, just as it was an AGGRESSOR, remained so. It beats those who cannot adequately answer, and when it gets its teeth, it starts whining and screaming, and for what, we are white and fluffy.

          And Georgia was certainly in your weight category.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 12 May 2018 16: 04
            +6
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Georgia was certainly in your weight category.

            Georgia, represented by its Armed Forces, was "in the weight category" of those forces of the Russian Federation whose area of ​​responsibility was the "Georgian direction". Let's just say that the KSF and Pacific Fleet did not enter the Black Sea and the divisions from Buryatia did not transfer. Another thing is that for Russia this was only a local conflict, and for Georgia - almost the third world one.
          2. Starik72
            Starik72 12 May 2018 16: 37
            +5
            Profusor. That is Oleg. What is nothing to cover, so you sailed Georgia here.
          3. Dart2027
            Dart2027 12 May 2018 22: 50
            +3
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And Georgia was certainly in your weight category.

            And who started shooting there, do not remind?
      2. Bad_santa
        Bad_santa 12 May 2018 17: 01
        +1
        This professor is not a relative of ProfFesor by chance? wassat
        1. Opera
          Opera 12 May 2018 18: 16
          +5
          How is it that Israel has no evidence of Israel’s worst strike on the defense capabilities of the SAR and the Iranian units, except for the fired shell? And the professor is here for you, what jokes are you kidding ?! He told you, Israel has no losses! Even so already said nooooo !!!!! And everyone else has it! Why do not you understand the plaque dull ?! Is it possible that I can advise the professor to establish a certain gradation for losses? Well, for example, there are no losses at all, it doesn’t happen at all, again there isn’t, the plane broke down, the deb pilot ... stupid, the wreckage of another 70s! Well, as a last resort with a pensive look, there are still no losses! In the worst case scenario, one can adopt the suicidal experience of “no losses” among Ukrainian partners! Well, for all the rest, for fidelity, simply count how many times Israel has no losses!
          1. borberd
            borberd 15 May 2018 17: 55
            -1
            You can immediately see a specialist in Israel :) If someone had been injured, then everyone would have known. And then Ptur-ami knocked down tanks, sweeping away Israeli bases with hurricanes, and all at no rate.
    5. borberd
      borberd 15 May 2018 17: 49
      0
      I support. Article rare ravings. The most interesting thing is that there are no truth words in all this, from the word - in general. Some just unproven baby talk.
  4. saigon
    saigon 12 May 2018 10: 52
    +3
    That's about Israel and the Persians do not argue.
    Well, with all the cunning of the Israelis, the Persians are still less trust.
    That Iran is an indisputable temporary ally to us, it’s more difficult to call an ally with Israel, and it’s not an enemy to Russia.
    The true behavior of Israeli leaders raises questions for the trick and mind of the Jews.
    Well, a very small country is not deep, there is not a rear far from the enemy, but there are many enemies around.
    The US ally only knows its benefits, as President Trump showed compliance with the treaties.
    One president signed the agreement, another came and the day of the agreement. muddy all the information is scarce
    1. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 12 May 2018 17: 07
      +1
      Therefore, the US always thinks two steps forward. In order not to become a choice between the Muslim world and Israel, they forced the strong Muslim countries to "wring themselves" with Israel by all means. If this had not been done and the war between Turkey and Israel had begun, for example, then we would again have to bustle like in the middle of the last century and put ourselves in an awkward position. So everything is normal with the strategy. We need to learn from them this, otherwise our analysts in the Kremlin see a maximum of 5 years in advance, and not for decades
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 May 2018 17: 13
        0
        Your President answered our Prime Minister .... I was often asked here what is the essence of the agreement? Well, you see, without approval .... There are some forces in the states that can ... There are some forces in Tehran .... Yours does not want a strong blow to Iran ... I think so.
        1. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 12 May 2018 18: 08
          0
          Not quite right you understand. Putin does not want a second-level war in Syria. Therefore, we had to negotiate behind the scenes with the United States in order to prevent a military confrontation between us. Therefore, I also had to agree with your leader (100% we can say that before the talks with your prime minister, Putin heard Iran’s demands and passed them to Netanyahu), and the outcome of the negotiations was a military confrontation on May 9-10. The result was understandable - we did not agree at all and did not make any concessions
        2. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 12 May 2018 18: 11
          0
          I don’t know if your leader, Putin, considers an outside observer and possibly an arbiter, but you Jews do not think so. Let's look at Bibi’s actions and understand if he kept his head cold or succumbed to universal Russophobia
      2. flicker
        flicker 12 May 2018 22: 41
        +1
        by all means, they forced the strong Muslim countries to "shred" with Israel.
        Keyword FORWARD. There was a time when it seemed to the Gulf monarchs that, buying individual senators and congressmen, they began to rule the states. Those. felt like owners, well, at least BV, and they were forced. Of course, they are smiling at the United States and Israel, but inside they want to catch a cold and die and wait for the right moment. So the main events have not even begun.
    2. Borders
      Borders 12 May 2018 17: 23
      +2
      "... with all the cunning of the Israelis, the Persians are still less trust.
      That Iran is an extremely temporary ally for us ...

      why? Why is Iran positioning you this way? He did not attack us (at least a hundred years ago) when, as the USSR, he invaded Iran. Iran (unlike all Muslim countries) has never officially criticized the Russian Federation for the war in Chechnya. Not once! Not a single Persian (!!!!) fought as part of an illegal armed formation in Chechnya and Dagestan. So, your negativity towards Iran and the Persians is not entirely clear ...
      1. sergeyezhov
        sergeyezhov 15 May 2018 14: 28
        +1
        Quote: Borders
        "... with all the cunning of the Israelis, the Persians are still less trust.
        That Iran is an extremely temporary ally for us ...

        why? Why is Iran positioning you this way? He did not attack us (at least a hundred years ago) when, as the USSR, he invaded Iran. Iran (unlike all Muslim countries) has never officially criticized the Russian Federation for the war in Chechnya. Not once! Not a single Persian (!!!!) fought as part of an illegal armed formation in Chechnya and Dagestan. So, your negativity towards Iran and the Persians is not entirely clear ...

        Afghan.
        1. Borders
          Borders 16 May 2018 10: 16
          0
          what is afghan? Has Iran attacked Russia in Afghanistan? bgg ...
  5. g1v2
    g1v2 12 May 2018 11: 14
    +7
    In places of Israeli attacks, the picture looms a little different. The main part of the strikes was inflicted on saa positions at the mouth of a pocket leading to the capital of the province of Daraa. Greens merges wherever possible. Green buses have become synonymous with their shame and defeat. Therefore, they need a breakthrough. And their owners too. The only place where there is a chance for such an appeal is the city of Daraa, located in the semicircle. Two groups of greenery in the provinces of Daraa and Suweida can in bulk break through the defense of the highway of life and surround the provincial capital. This is the attempt or reconnaissance by the battle of such an attempt by the militants. And their Israeli sponsors conducted art and air training before that. Naturally, first striking a weak blow to Syria, and then waiting for an answer, it is already powerful. Plus, strikes were carried out on air defense positions covering the area. There were no Iranian objects there - the blow was inflicted precisely on the Syrian positions and the response was also from the Syrians, and the Persians did not even participate in this case.
    The onset of the fighters failed, but it obviously will not be the last. So you need to quickly transfer additional forces and remove the threat of the environment, as well as completely liberate the city of Daraa. In this case, the front will be cut into two parts - separately against militants near the Israeli border and separately against pro-Jordanian militants. Neither Israel nor Jordan will let through the armored vehicles of the militants, which means the logistics of slippers will become very complicated.
    1. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 12 May 2018 17: 19
      +2
      And by the way, without a direct communication channel in real time, it is impossible to launch an offensive by the bearded immediately after the Israeli attacks on Syrian troops. Here you either need to know the exact plan of mutual actions and constant communication, or bearded to have a reconnaissance aircraft or UAVs of the Global Hawke level in the air on constant watch for constant monitoring of the Syrian troops and deep rear. So gentlemen, Jews, you are many with combat experience and you know what I'm talking about, draw conclusions if, of course, you have not completely lost the flexibility of thinking
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 13 May 2018 01: 01
        +3
        They all know and understand - not fools. And most importantly approve. Syria is their long-standing enemy. therefore, they support any steps against her. And their position on the site comes down to one thing - "not caught - not a thief." In principle, the position is understandable, because the support of jihadists clearly does not paint them with any excuses.
  6. onix757
    onix757 12 May 2018 12: 56
    +2
    Summary. The guard of the Syrian house advised the owner to deal with his problems himself and washed his hands. In practice, then no one needs such guards.
    1. Fedor egoist
      Fedor egoist 12 May 2018 13: 31
      +3
      Quote: onix757
      Syrian House Guard

      Russia was not hired as a security guard, and is located in Syria more likely as a deratrator - it cleans the "rats" of the neighboring "house" until they multiply and scatter. Problems with neighbors are already the problems of the owner of the house.
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 May 2018 13: 37
        +1
        as a disinfectant - cleans the neighboring "house" of "rats" until they multiply and scatter

        Well, well, at least not as a cesspool worker. Reassured.
      2. Lesorub
        Lesorub 12 May 2018 22: 52
        +3
        Quote: Fedor Egoist
        Russia was not hired as a security guard, and is located in Syria more likely as a deratrator - it cleans the "rats" of the neighboring "house" until they multiply and scatter. Problems with neighbors are already the problems of the owner of the house.

        So who started these "rats" in the Syrian house and feeds ??! )))
  7. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 12 May 2018 13: 27
    +1
    That’s what the Internet means, its mighty and diabolical essence with just one example.
    Aiham Habib (I apologize generously for the incorrect spelling) was named a CAA lieutenant in one of the videos, the captain in the other, and the lieutenant colonel in the third.
    Honor and praise to the officer! Shame and inescapable contempt for the "journalists" and all kinds of bloggers who have arranged a dance around one episode of a long civil war!
  8. Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 12 May 2018 13: 46
    +2
    And what if Iran does not recognize Israeli sovereignty.
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 12 May 2018 18: 00
      0
      Quote: Munchhausen
      And what if Iran does not recognize Israeli sovereignty.

      Not only Iran. There, a whole group of neighbors have claims to Israel.
  9. NordUral
    NordUral 12 May 2018 13: 52
    +1
    The alignment is good, but the situation is muddy. Only one thing is clear - we can’t get by in Syria with small forces, either in technology or in people.
    1. Merold
      Merold 12 May 2018 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: NordUral
      The alignment is good, but the situation is muddy. Only one thing is clear - we can’t get by in Syria with small forces, either in technology or in people.

      Suitcase-station-Damascus.
  10. q75agent
    q75agent 12 May 2018 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Well, of course. After all, weddings take place exclusively at midnight. How else? And it’s not important that the video from the wedding near the Gaza Strip. Write the main comment.

    The main thing is to show that supposedly a professor wassat
    1. Professor
      Professor 12 May 2018 14: 19
      +5
      Quote: q75agent
      Quote: Professor
      Well, of course. After all, weddings take place exclusively at midnight. How else? And it’s not important that the video from the wedding near the Gaza Strip. Write the main comment.

      The main thing is to show that supposedly a professor wassat

      Sat in a puddle sit quietly.

      Published on Jul 8, 2014


      compare? wink
      1. q75agent
        q75agent 12 May 2018 15: 03
        +3
        sit silently ???? but the fact that wink compare times you can’t do anything else, the sofa warrior laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 12 May 2018 15: 14
          +7
          Quote: q75agent
          sit silently ???? but the fact that wink compare times you can’t do anything else, the sofa warrior laughing

          Sit quietly so as not to disgrace the whole world like you today. fellow
  11. Normal ok
    Normal ok 12 May 2018 14: 19
    +6
    according to the Russian Defense Ministry, and they should be trusted.

    Why? Did they lie a little?
    1. Merold
      Merold 12 May 2018 14: 28
      +3
      Quote: Normal ok
      according to the Russian Defense Ministry, and they should be trusted.

      Why? Did they lie a little?

      This is the author’s strongest argument. Reinforced concrete.
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 12 May 2018 15: 16
        0
        Quote: Merold
        Quote: Normal ok
        according to the Russian Defense Ministry, and they should be trusted.

        Why? Did they lie a little?

        This is the author’s strongest argument. Reinforced concrete.

        Exactly !!! They believe the United States Defense Ministry and Israel ... They do not lie ..
        1. Merold
          Merold 12 May 2018 16: 31
          +2
          Quote: Serge Gorely
          Quote: Merold
          Quote: Normal ok
          according to the Russian Defense Ministry, and they should be trusted.

          Why? Did they lie a little?

          This is the author’s strongest argument. Reinforced concrete.

          Exactly !!! They believe the United States Defense Ministry and Israel ... They do not lie ..

          Talk about the Russian Defense Ministry and that he certainly can be trusted.
  12. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 12 May 2018 14: 53
    +3
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    A good article, without tearing vests, tossing bonnets, but also without sprinkling ashes on the head and smearing snot on the cheeks.

    Join
  13. Shahno
    Shahno 12 May 2018 15: 21
    +2
    Debriefing? One mention of the "goyim" ... yes, it is an indicator of objectivity. I had to hide my ears, I understand I could not restrain myself.
  14. q75agent
    q75agent 12 May 2018 15: 22
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Sit quietly so as not to disgrace the whole world like you today.

    take care of your nerves, drink valerian laughing hi
  15. akudr48
    akudr48 12 May 2018 15: 51
    +2
    And in general, it’s better to look at the reaction of the Syrians themselves - it is extremely far from decadent, frankly. On the contrary, they rejoice in the success of their air defense and honor the dead heroes

    Outrageous turn - the Syrians, it turns out, rejoice in the successes of their air defense, which the Jews destroyed.

    But he is not the only one, we continue.

    The threat from Russia "we will deliver air defense systems - we will not supply air defense systems" provides an instrument for pressure on Israel,

    and Israel responds to this pressure with the destruction of anti-aircraft missile systems, so that there is no threat, that Russia does not use this verbal intervention, so what?

    It turns out that Israel is teaching Russia how to use its vocabulary, it is teaching Russia its foreign policy. But does Russia seem to be ahead of the rest in foreign affairs with Putin, or is this not true?

    The author also scrupulously assessed which air defense systems he felt sorry for (Shell, Buk, but they weren’t destroyed, but slightly damaged) and which weren’t (S-75, S-200, it’s Soviet junk, it’s expensive for him ...).

    It’s the same as saying that, yes, they put faces in the face, but they only knocked down their eyes, and they didn’t feel sorry for the teeth, it’s even good, it was high time to go to the dentist, pull out, and then the case turned up ...

    And such analytics on order in every line.
  16. Fantastic_D2.0
    Fantastic_D2.0 12 May 2018 16: 01
    +4
    This “analytega” is more like an essay on a free theme of a 5th grade student in a rural school, both in style and in facts .... Well, what site is this and “analytega”.
    Take what they give. The main thing is that the product entertains the ego of the specific guests of this resource. So win!
  17. bloodsucker
    bloodsucker 12 May 2018 16: 39
    +3
    I mastered three paragraphs. I felt sick. I’ll go and wash my hands. Nonsense.
    1. Fantastic_D2.0
      Fantastic_D2.0 12 May 2018 16: 46
      +3
      Vyatkin wrote on the machine. It was no longer up to the facts, and most importantly, to quickly calm down the wild butthert. You just need to understand and forgive ...
    2. brigadier
      brigadier 12 May 2018 17: 18
      +2
      I mastered 4 paragraphs. Analytics - paragraph.
      Then I decided not to read.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 12 May 2018 17: 56
        0
        Quote: brigadir
        I mastered 4 paragraphs. Analytics - paragraph.
        Then I decided not to read.

        This event is important for the forum is worth noting. laughing
        1. brigadier
          brigadier 12 May 2018 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: shura7782
          Quote: brigadir
          I mastered 4 paragraphs. Analytics - paragraph.
          Then I decided not to read.

          This event is important for the forum is worth noting. laughing

          Agreed. I exhibit. Whiskey, cognac, vodka? Or does the order not matter?
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 12 May 2018 18: 27
            0
            Quote: brigadir
            Quote: shura7782
            Quote: brigadir
            I mastered 4 paragraphs. Analytics - paragraph.
            Then I decided not to read.

            This event is important for the forum is worth noting. laughing

            Agreed. I exhibit. Whiskey, cognac, vodka? Or does the order not matter?

            Cognac!!! yes
  18. sa-ag
    sa-ag 12 May 2018 17: 09
    +3
    "... as the Russian Defense Ministry claims, and they should be trusted"
    Indeed?:-)
  19. Borders
    Borders 12 May 2018 17: 18
    0
    Syria first, then Iran, and then Russia ...
  20. shura7782
    shura7782 12 May 2018 17: 53
    0
    The situation will be corrected by the inflatable "Armor". Let the Jewish military orders earn.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 12 May 2018 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: shura7782
      The situation will be corrected by the inflatable "Armor". Let the Jewish military orders earn.

      We have orders very well. Throughout the history of Israel, no more than 1500 people have been awarded orders.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 12 May 2018 20: 17
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: shura7782
        The situation will be corrected by the inflatable "Armor". Let the Jewish military orders earn.

        We have orders very well. Throughout the history of Israel, no more than 1500 people have been awarded orders.

        Each army has its own bells and whistles.
        Then, the medals.
  21. farcop
    farcop 12 May 2018 18: 35
    +1
    As the whole article resembles Yashkin, it’s kind of expensive, and that's good.
  22. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 12 May 2018 18: 41
    0
    there are no Iranian bases in Syria
    1. Ncplc
      Ncplc 12 May 2018 19: 43
      0
      Of course it wasn’t, all this is a fake, nobody shot where.))))
  23. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 12 May 2018 18: 44
    0
    again fake about the shell
  24. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 12 May 2018 18: 45
    +1
    Well, Israel suffered serious losses. And they are silent
  25. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 12 May 2018 18: 48
    0
    Quote: farcop
    As the whole article resembles Yashkin, it’s kind of expensive, and that's good.

    Quote: Doronkabilio
    Russia will receive direct damage, because it will pay all for their money, the Syrians are insolvent. The indirect damage is that the destruction of all these systems will be repeated, which will adversely affect their export potential. After all, stupid Indians do not read Vyatkin’s articles (Skomorokhov).

    Well, your mercenaries are also burning like chips) and your "super-duper" missiles will go astray)
  26. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 12 May 2018 18: 55
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Doronkabilio
    The indirect damage is that the destruction of all these systems will be repeated, which will adversely affect their export potential.

    Are you serious? That is, you think that you are the only one so smart and the buyers of weapons are really stupid and not sighted? What damage is respected? Do not entertain yourself with illusions.
    Quote: Doronkabilio
    After all, stupid Indians do not read Vyatkin’s articles (Skomorokhov).

    Really ... Indians are stupid. They are completely blind and with brains in the Indian military-industrial complex, well, quite a guard.

    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    Quote: Ncplc
    Y. Vyatkin- I applaud while standing, such nonsense has not yet been here))))))))
    And this is in the “analytics” section, bravo.

    What exactly is "delusional" in an article? Or is everything that is different from your view of the world - "nonsense"?

    They Russophobia and rushing) And they write in Russian)
    1. Ncplc
      Ncplc 12 May 2018 19: 46
      +1
      Only in a soooooo sick imagination can one see Russophbia here, you would go to the doctor with your feicophobia.
  27. emwave
    emwave 12 May 2018 20: 04
    +1
    Interesting article. In one, the author is exactly right - Israel is not profitable to voice the true state of affairs.
    Judging by the movement at the diplomatic level against Iran, not everything is going on in Israel as we would like. If we discard the arguments about the power of weapons, it is clear that Israel received a rebuff, which until now was not.
    It’s hard to say where this will lead. Maybe Israeli actions will become more diplomatic?
    Obviously, you need to remove any “goyim” from the article and be more objective.
  28. Karabin
    Karabin 12 May 2018 20: 10
    +2
    So far, things have shown that in a year and a half, the SAR air defense was raised from military ruins to such a height that it can reflect, and with a very good percentage of shot down targets, massive attacks by cruise and ballistic missiles. Who else can boast of a similar result, achieved not on Twitter, but in reality?

    Interest is good, and good interest is even better. That is all Syrian joy. Next time, and he will, don’t go to the grandmother, the Jews will again spend their ammunition. The Syrians will spend something from the Shell / Buk. Jews will spend ammunition, Syrians - life calculations and air defense systems. Jews hit the object, the Syrians hit the ammunition that flies into the object. There is either nothing for the Syrians to get an Israeli plane, or there is an opinion on Jewish planes not to shoot. So who in this story will lead in the account? How many consumables in the form of Shell / Buk of the Russian Federation is ready to give Assad?
  29. mgero
    mgero 12 May 2018 21: 20
    0
    We have relatively close ties with Israel, and Iran is something like a temporary ally in the region.
    Xarasho skazano. Tak eshe Medvedev gavarili.
  30. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 12 May 2018 21: 47
    +1
    Good article, optimistic. Reasonable analysis of the situation. It is very different from the hysterical-patriotic articles of one author. Y. Vyatkin - Respect!
  31. flicker
    flicker 12 May 2018 22: 23
    +2
    Neighbors got into a fight in a Syrian house: Iran and Israel
    Here is something that Iran does not confirm anywhere that it fired at Israel from the MLRS. Most likely this is an Israeli provocation. Iran in the person of Hezbollah could bring down on the heads of the Jews (who naively believe that Iran fired at them with 20 shells) not 20, but 20 different missiles and shells. So there was still no fight, rather, Israel waved several times, slightly hitting Iranian forces, but there will certainly be a fight - I think Egypt and Jordan will not stand aside.
  32. Borders
    Borders 14 May 2018 10: 49
    0
    Iran’s loss in Syria is Assad’s loss, and Assad’s loss is Syria’s loss. The final one. That Syria, which is extremely friendly to Russia. In addition, the loss of Iran in Syria is a victory for Turkey, Israel, the United States and jagged Wahhabi penguins. So think to whom it is (losing Iran in Syria) profitable ...
  33. aiden
    aiden 14 May 2018 23: 43
    0
    To argue with an Israeli is like playing chess with a pigeon. He will throw the pieces, put on the board and fly away to tell everyone how he paid you.
  34. K-50
    K-50 15 May 2018 12: 49
    0
    we don’t need Iran to drag us into an unnecessary conflict with Israel, we don’t have any benefits, but Iran has a lot. But we cannot allow the bombing of the territory of the SAR with impunity.

    All Jewish planes trying to strike Syria must be grounded.
    Type of regime: the forester came and dispersed everyone. what laughing
  35. sergeyezhov
    sergeyezhov 15 May 2018 14: 44
    +2
    Iran shocked by Bahrain's support for Israeli attacks on Syria
    http://www.iran.ru/news/politics/109564/Iran_shok
    irovan_podderzhkoy_Bahreyna_atak_Izrailya_po_Siri
    i

    In recent years, Syria has experienced tensions with most Arab Gulf states, but the support of the Bahraini Foreign Minister for Israeli strikes marks a rare, if not unprecedented, public position by the Arab government.
    1. farcop
      farcop 15 May 2018 18: 11
      +2
      Quote: sergeyezhov
      Iran shocked by Bahrain's support for Israeli attacks on Syria
      Well, shock therapy is just beginning.
      Russia: Iran must make concessions to maintain a nuclear agreement. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Tuesday that it would be impossible to maintain the Iranian nuclear deal without Tehran’s concessions.
  36. Leonardo da Vinci
    Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 08: 12
    +1
    I'm new here. First time. I read the article itself and the comments on it from cover to cover. I wanted to speak myself. First, I would like to ask a question to the author of the article. The Israeli Air Force, by their own admission, made over a hundred raids on various objects in Syria, mainly on warehouses and caravans with weapons for Hezbollah, which were intended for crossing to Lebanon, where Hezbollah is based. And not a single plane was shot down. Then, more recently, one Israeli F-16 was shot down. Two hours after that, Israeli aviation again attacked immediately 12 targets in Syria, most notably the positions of Syrian air defense. And not a single plane was shot down again. Then there was an attack on an Iranian target at the T-4 air base. And again, without loss from the Israelis. Well, finally, the last massive attack on 50 objects. And again, without loss. This raises two questions. First, it looks like the F-16 was just a fortunate event for the Syrians, as the Israelis say. In favor of this conclusion is the absence of losses, in general. And the absence of other losses, in that particular case. And the fact that the very maneuverable F-16 (one of the most maneuverable aircraft in aviation of all countries was shot down not just by the long-obsolete air defense systems, but the S-200 air defense system, which was not even planned against maneuverable fighters. It was intended against heavy, slow-moving vehicles — strategic bombers, AWACS, tankers, and other similar aircraft. But all the other F-16s, the companions of a downed plane, simply dived down and safely avoided an undesirable encounter with anti-aircraft missiles, except for one that for some reason hesitated, and the flight path of the rocket was very successful and the target was hit. However, there was no direct hit. The plane was damaged by fragments and these injuries, again, successfully for the Syrians, were fatal. So the question arises. If the air defense of Syria has increased so much, as you say, why then does this air defense have such deplorable results? Just one downed plane in several years of numerous raids, and even then shot down due to an extremely favorable combination of circumstances for the Syrians. And then the next question immediately begs. If the Syrians cannot shoot down planes, how can they then shoot down most missiles, which are much more difficult targets than the planes themselves. Where is the logic here? In addition, the Israelis did hit their targets, and though through gritted teeth, it is recognized by both Syrians and Iranians. It is probably worth recalling that in place of one of the affected objects, seismologists even recorded an earthquake of 2,6 points. It was reported that an underground warehouse of Iranian ground-to-ground missiles exploded there, which, according to reports, were about 200 - tactical and operational-tactical missiles. There are photos of the destroyed Syrian radars. At the same time, the Syrians also practically did not provide evidence of the downing of Israeli missiles. That is, the facts indicate that the Israeli attacks were still effective. So the Syrians, together with the Russian Defense Ministry, greatly exaggerate the Syrian successes in intercepting enemy missiles. As the saying goes, facts are a stubborn thing and no arguing against them. And the last. It is not clear why in the Russian Federation they raised so much noise around the destruction of this miserable Shell. Neither in Israel, nor in other Western countries this event was given special significance. And in the Russian Federation, a whole hysteria has been created around this ordinary fact. The Israelis posted a photo of this shell. Ну и что? When they shot down the F-16, in Syria and in the Russian Federation they also uploaded this photo and relished this luck. The Israelis just reacted to their success with the Shell very calmly and did not suit any dances with tambourines, unlike the Syrians and Russians, on this occasion. And why? They had much more serious achievements. They seem to have destroyed all or almost all of the Iranian missile depots, in favor of which the Iranians did not launch any significant attack on Israel. But how they threatened. They recently stated that "if the Zionists make the slightest mistake, then we (the Iranians) will burn Tel Aviv and Haifa." Well, the Israelis gave them a reason to carry out their threats and what is the result? But nothing as a result. All the loud Iranian threats ended in complete zilch. Therefore, I personally do not understand such an optimistic assessment by the author of the article of the situation in the air defense of Syria. I would like to receive your clarifications on the issues that I have raised. Only, please, do not cheer patriotic hat-making.
    1. Leonardo da Vinci
      Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 08: 36
      +4
      I wish good health to all forum users. I'm new here. First time. I read the article itself and the comments on it. I wanted to speak myself. First, I would like to ask a question to the author of the article. The Israeli Air Force, by their own admission, made over a hundred raids on various targets in Syria, even before the latest events, as reported in the media, mainly on warehouses and caravans with weapons for Hezbollah, which were intended for crossing to Lebanon, where Hezbollah is based . And not a single plane was shot down. Then, more recently, one Israeli F-16 was shot down. Two hours after this, Israeli aviation again attacked immediately 12 targets in Syria, and mainly the positions of Syrian air defense. And not a single plane was shot down again. Then there was an attack on an Iranian target at the T-4 air base, where a certain Iranian air defense system was destroyed. And again, without loss from the Israelis. And finally, the last massive attack on 50 objects. And again, without loss. This raises two questions. First, it seems that the downing of the F-16 was just a good case for the Syrians, as the Israelis say. In favor of this conclusion is the absence of losses, in general. And the absence of other losses, in that particular case. And the fact that the very maneuverable F-16 (one of the most maneuverable aircraft in the aviation industry of all countries) was shot down not just by an outdated SAM, but by the S-200, which was not even planned against maneuverable fighters. It was intended against heavy, slow-moving vehicles — strategic bombers, AWACS, tankers, and other similar aircraft. But all the other F-16s, the companions of a downed plane, simply dived down and safely avoided an undesirable encounter with anti-aircraft missiles, except for one that for some reason hesitated, and the flight path of the rocket was very successful and the target was hit. However, there was no direct hit. The plane was damaged by fragments and these injuries, again, successfully for the Syrians, were fatal. So the question arises. If the air defense of Syria has increased so much, as you say, why then does this air defense have such deplorable results? Just one downed plane in several years of numerous raids, and even then shot down due to an extremely favorable combination of circumstances for the Syrians. And then the next question immediately begs. If the Syrians cannot shoot down planes, how can they then shoot down most missiles, which are much more difficult targets than the planes themselves. Where is the logic here? In addition, the Israelis did hit their targets and this, though through gritted teeth, is recognized by both Syrians and Iranians. It is probably worth recalling that in place of one of the affected objects, seismologists even recorded an earthquake of 2,6 points. It was reported that an underground warehouse of Iranian ground-to-ground missiles exploded there, of which there were reportedly about 200 pieces — tactical and operational-tactical missiles. There are photos of the destroyed Syrian radars. At the same time, the Syrians practically did not provide evidence of the downing of Israeli missiles. That is, the facts indicate that the Israeli attacks were still effective. So the Syrians, together with the Russian Defense Ministry, greatly exaggerate the Syrian successes in intercepting enemy missiles. As the saying goes, facts are a stubborn thing and no arguing against them. And the last. It is not clear why in the Russian Federation they raised so much noise around the destruction of this miserable Shell. Neither in Israel, nor in other Western countries this event was given special significance. And in the Russian Federation, a whole hysteria has been created around this ordinary fact. The Israelis posted a photo of this shell. Ну и что? When they shot down the F-16, in Syria and in the Russian Federation they also uploaded the photo of this F-16 and relished this luck. The Israelis just reacted to their success with the Carapace very calmly and did not suit any dances with tambourines, unlike the Syrians and Russians in the case of the F-16. And why? They had much more serious achievements. They seem to have destroyed all or almost all of the Iranian missile depots, in favor of which the Iranians did not launch any significant attack on Israel. But how they threatened. They recently stated that "if the Zionists make the slightest mistake, then we (the Iranians) will burn Tel Aviv and Haifa." Well, the Israelis gave them a reason to carry out their threats and what is the result? But nothing as a result. All the loud Iranian threats ended in complete zilch. Therefore, I personally do not understand such an optimistic assessment by the author of the article of the situation in the air defense of Syria. I would like to receive your clarifications on the issues that I have raised. Only, please, do not cheer patriotic hat-making.
      1. mr_Flint
        mr_Flint 16 May 2018 16: 55
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        = Only, please, do not cheer-patriotic hat-making. ==
        That you say the wrong words. Here it is for this purpose that the most respected public gathers.