Who and how catches up with America. Orthodox aircraft modeling

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Comrade Stalin, a great scholar, closed the bible and carefully set it aside. He threw his legs in his boots on the Kremlin table and began to fill the phone. Moscow was forgotten by an alarming dream, the leading cadres were sleeping with their suitcases under their pillow, waiting for the pogroms of the NKVD. In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, they were awake and happily reported to the leader by telephone about the progress in the large-scale construction of an aircraft factory in the taiga. A beautiful sunny day was in full swing.

Having knocked and not having received the answer, Nikita Khrushchev entered the office, bowing low.



- Nikita, tell me, is there a god?

- And how! You are my god! - Khrushchev jumped to the ceiling.

- Youngster. In the seminary, I was taught that God created the earth and the sky, and water, and light. And the gas also created. And this is the essence of chemical and physical processes. Go tell everyone that we need to bring chemistry and physics to life. And this ... biology. From such a monkey how are you going to make a man.
(From the unwritten memories of a liberal scientist who suffered innocently.)

Who and how catches up with America. Orthodox aircraft modeling


Joseph Stalin was a man of his era. A man of the age of steam and electricity, a man constantly self-educating. The successes of the German, English and American chemists could not leave him indifferent. Chemistry is aniline dyes, fertilizers for agriculture, celluloid for cinematography, toys "Go away - go away" for kiddies, tires for cars, new explosives and raw materials for the rest of the industry. The front reports of World War I were fresh in memory, where the enemy was gassed using all that was possible: chlorine, mustard gas, lewisite.

Big country - the USSR. A big country needs big chemistry, needs physics, biology. All is necessary. And most of all we need educated people.

The task is set, the high school took the peak. On the foundation of small educational institutions, at the beginning of the 30s, the United Moscow Institute of Chemical Technology (EMKhTI), consisting of several branches, appeared.

The first branch is the Moscow Institute of Chemical Technology named after DI Mendeleev.

The second branch is the Faculty of Chemistry, Moscow State Technical University (reorganized into the KE Voroshilov Military Chemical Academy).

The third branch is the chemical and pharmaceutical faculty of the Second Moscow State University (reorganized into the Moscow Institute of Fine Chemical Technology named after MV Lomonosov).

The fourth branch - the chemical faculty of Moscow State University. MV Lomonosov (later returned to the Moscow State University).

The fifth branch is the Moscow Institute of Chemical Engineering Engineers (22 February 1931 was established on the basis of the mechanical department of the Moscow State Institute of Chemical Engineering named after DI Mendeleev, reorganized into the Moscow Institute of Chemical Engineering).

Later, the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MFTI - Fiztech) broke away from Moscow State University, setting the principles formulated by P. Kapitsa in a personal letter to Comrade as the head of training. Stalin:

1) careful selection of gifted and creative young people;

2) participation in the training of leading scientists and close contact with them in their creative environment;

3) an individual approach to individual students in order to develop their creative skills;

4) conduct education from the very first steps in an atmosphere of technical research and constructive creativity using the country's best laboratories for this.

Young people were taken by the ears and taught, taught, taught.

Academician Axel Ivanovich Berg recalled:

“... 1943 year. I was invited to lead the design and manufacture of radar stations in the country. We had great authority, but we lacked personnel of all levels and qualifications.
... The deadlines for training engineers at universities in Moscow were too long ... A completely new method was proposed: secondment students for theoretical, experimental and practical work to our new institutes and laboratories and thus include them directly in practical work. Thus, the future specialists began to work alongside our scientists, designers, laboratory workers, who helped in word and deed, and the students were given the opportunity from the very first days to get acquainted with the content and difficulties of their independent and collective work. ”

(Quoted from the book by A. Shchuka, A. A. Fiztech and Phys. Tec. M., 2010. C. 18.)

But this is not enough; students also need to be taken from somewhere. 22 February 1935, Stalin and Molotov sign a masterpiece resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR and the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) on the construction of schools in cities. In which it was noted that during the years of the first and second five-year plans, the number of school-age children enrolled in schools increased from 11,3 million to 24 million people (greetings to Vladimir Vladimirovich and his maternal capital). The number of schools during this time increased by 50000, from 118000 to 167000 schools, mainly in the countryside (hello to the optimization program), but we are lagging behind in the cities. Children go to three shifts, in other schools, children learn without giving time, and teachers work seven days a week. Therefore, it is necessary to build large and beautiful typical schools only in 1935 in the big cities of 374. These temples of education include, among other things, splendor: laboratories of physics and chemistry for 70 square meters each, a study of natural science - also 70 square meters, a library - again 70 square meters, and in this school an apartment for the director - 35 squares, a cafeteria, etc. d.



Take off your hat and remember your Brezhnev school pits with flasks. Remember also the black-and-white children's film “The Girl and the Crocodile”, based on the story “Katya and the Crocodile” by Nina Gernet and Grigory Yagdfeld. There, the pioneers from the school’s living corner dismantled every animal for holidays, and temporarily left unattended: a talking starling, two rabbits, a tortoise and a crocodile. Crocodile! In the school living corner !!

The author, who went to school in 1974, remembers well the remnants of the formerly magnificent school garden and the ruins of the school greenhouse, where vegetative life was in full swing while the biology teacher, the teacher of Stalin’s school was alive. At the same time, with wires to retire geographies, who knew the entire blind map of the world by heart, no one knew where the collection of paleontological and geological samples had disappeared from the geography office.

It was pupils and students who learned with public money (each training place cost the country approximately 1000 rubles), under the leadership of Korolev, Yangel, Tupolev and other stars of science made a big technological breakthrough. Made up the color of Soviet big chemistry, geochemistry and medicine. This generation has created a groundwork half a century ahead. With this legacy we are still alive.



It is no accident that the current convulsive desire to “catch up with America” in the creation of unmanned aerial vehicles is the logical result of the collapse of the work of aircraft model and ship model circles in schools. Many young workers came out of the youths, creators of flying models. aviation. Such as the famous designer, twice Hero of Socialist Labor Alexander Yakovlev, Stalin Prize winners Oleg Antonov, Mikhail Mil, Nikolai Trunchenkov and others. The first cosmonaut in the world, Hero of the Soviet Union, Yuri Gagarin, was also involved in aircraft modeling in his school years.

What can I say: in the besieged Leningrad in 1943, the city held a competition in aircraft modeling!

In the 1957 year in Czechoslovakia in the world championship in the class of glider models, the USSR team took the 1-place. By 1968, Soviet model airplanes owned 15 world records for free flying and cord models from 39, registered by the International Aviation Federation. Sportsmen-dischargers, masters and honored masters of sports of the USSR, coaches, there were more than 200 thousands of people.

It was a nourishing humus, on which technical thinking and creative search grew, and there were pictures for young industry.

During the Second World War, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, fearing Hitler would unleash a chemical war, during a discussion of the program for the supply of arms and military supplies to the USSR, offered Stalin to supply chemical weapon. 1000 tons of chlorine and mustard gas. Stalin puffed on his pipe, asked for airplanes and Tanks, and dismissed chemical weapons: they say, not time. When Churchill was already completely annoying, trying to shove the products of the British chemical industry with his foot in Lend-Lease, Stalin was ready to accept only chloramine, which was used at that time to disinfect hospitals and operating rooms. Stalin knew that both the country's industry and personnel were ready for a possible chemical war.

It took 70 years, it's time to revert to the Stalinist bible. Someone is flipping through it slowly. The aircraft model club in the city of Voronezh was organized with the blessing of the abbot Fr. Nicholas in September 2012. 5 children came to the first classes, pupils of the Sunday school, and after six months there were 25 people wishing to engage in aircraft modeling at the church of St. Anthony. It all started from scratch; for the mug, the former premises of the church were allocated - a railway carriage in which there was neither equipment, nor tools, nor necessary parts for airplanes. The Lord did not leave the circle in their concerns! Several tools were purchased with donor funds: a drilling, grinding, grinding, two stationary jigsaws and a small circular saw. Aged a compressor with airbrushes and spray guns for painting models.

There is, apparently, a hope of flying to the “airplane” before God and to see how he is managed there without us, sinners.

It would be funny if it were not so sad. Thank you very much for bothering the model aircraft model for messing with the children. Education in Russia, especially in high school, for the most part does not hold water, the maximum is at the level of the old-regime parish. Children's and youthful creativity - in the pen. And even though television is showing us a picture in which the Prime Minister attends the exhibition of children's robotics, all this remains only a beautiful picture. We are not talking about serious development programs for young people.



Or maybe it's time already? Now here is right ... after football, after the holidays. From the first of September.
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  1. 0
    14 May 2018 06: 31
    True, of course.

    But it’s kind of not angry and bitter, but angry with the bitterness of a couch lounging expert who has nothing to offer except criticism of everything.

    Something nasty and disgusting.

    And what did you yourself unfortunate friend do good and useful?
    1. dSK
      +1
      14 May 2018 06: 35
      Quote: Titsen
      good and useful

      Or maybe it's time already? Now here is right ... after football, after the holidays. From the first of September.
      And what time to pull, vacation soon, will be something to do, and not "drive the bulldozer." And there is something, a budget without deficits looms.
      1. 0
        15 May 2018 13: 55
        Why are you pushing someone else’s tea for tea is not socialism and the budget doesn’t mean our national money it means no one's worth it yet! It still means untapped yet!
    2. +7
      14 May 2018 11: 03
      And what will you do when there’s one day off from the week, when you can get an administrator, or even a criminal offense for “unlicensed educational activity” and for “using child labor” for having children saw, plan, glue, clean up!
    3. +8
      14 May 2018 19: 25
      So James Braidenstein, director of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) 174 thousand 185,1 thousand dollars a year. And the general director of GK Roscosmos Igor Komarov last year earned 71 million 501 thousand 646 rubles at his main place of work. Or 1 million 311 thousand 531 dollars at the average rate of 2017. Moreover, the total annual income of Mr. Komarov according to the declaration is 108 million 577 thousand 386 rubles.

      That is, here the difference is not even many times, but a whole order already in our favor!

      Well, and who then is actually the main winner in the space race?
    4. +9
      14 May 2018 21: 55
      Mr. Titsen (IG Titsen)despite yoursing, that was all. And Gennady Generallenko, wrote the case correctly. I myself was engaged in an aviation circle from 75 to 79 and for 4 years I spent only on the Bison motor, and even because my mother accidentally saw him in Estonia. He made a radio control for him in a nearby radio circle. And then there was simply no time to fool around. This is to the fact that I also went to the judo section. FREE !!! And he went to competitions for money, which was given by the department of the city executive committee for sports.
  2. +11
    14 May 2018 06: 55
    There are enough initiative people, but the authorities on the ground, without a decision from above, will not scratch our heels. And there are other priorities on top, and there work with youth does not appear, because it does not bring profit, especially quick profit!
  3. +1
    14 May 2018 06: 59
    Children's and youthful creativity is in the pen.

    A network of Quantorium children's technology parks is being created across the country. By the end of the 2018 year, they should appear in the 51 region of Russia.
    1. +1
      16 May 2018 15: 14
      Paper - it will endure. On it and the Sobyaninsky project for pensioners "Moscow Longevity" works.
  4. +7
    14 May 2018 07: 04
    Reading articles like this ... a double perception. Today and then there are two different types of society and the state. Different goal-setting and means of achieving the goal. For some, the common good for all, for others only for themselves specifically.
    It is impossible to use that experience of Soviet construction in a capitalist country. They will not understand ...
    1. +2
      14 May 2018 19: 18
      It is impossible to use that experience of Soviet construction in a capitalist country. They will not understand
      It’s just the same, corrected, for specifics. The West adopted a lot from the union of individual elements. For example, civil defense in the states, copied from the Soviet civil defense. After the launch of the first satellite, 1957, NASA was founded in 1958. NASA is a United States organization that copies Soviet cosmonautics.
      It’s just that technology, science and engineers are needed by an industrial country, but not by a raw materials appendage, which is the modern Russian Federation. Engineers and scientists, no work, they are leaving west.
  5. +8
    14 May 2018 07: 34
    As times change, earlier aircraft modeling circles were at houses, pioneer palaces, now at Sunday church school ...
    1. +2
      14 May 2018 10: 49
      Quote: parusnik
      As times change, earlier aircraft modeling circles were at houses, pioneer palaces, now at Sunday church school ...

      Now ... I’m talking for Moscow .. you can do ANYTHING with anything, it would be time .. and money. There is no time for a child to drive to all sections. But to say that something is not is an impudent lie.
      1. +3
        14 May 2018 11: 41
        I put a slightly different meaning into my comment ... And not about the fact that something is or is not present ...
        1. +1
          14 May 2018 11: 53
          Quote: parusnik
          I put a slightly different meaning into my comment ... And not about the fact that something is or is not present ...
          I’ll try to guess, good afternoon, Alexey .. It turns out that there were decent ideas and ideas that they forget about the authors, but they still use ideas. In this regard, the opening of the Olympics in Sochi was recalled. There were pioneers of aircraft models with models.
      2. +2
        16 May 2018 15: 21
        So the difference is that in the Soviet Union the state was interested in the development of children, and today it is exclusively in collecting taxes from the population.
        And the fact that you can buy everything does not mean that everyone can buy something.
    2. +4
      14 May 2018 21: 22
      So now, instead of the houses of pioneers, "churches" are being erected intensely, and even houses of culture, where the children's groups worked, the ROCs give, they say - restitution. Someone can’t wait to get into the Middle Ages faster
    3. +2
      15 May 2018 13: 58
      Well now, in the palaces of culture, shops and the Church of the New Testament, well, and taverns with saunas
    4. +1
      17 May 2018 14: 41
      Quote: parusnik
      As times change, earlier aircraft modeling circles were at houses, pioneer palaces, now at Sunday church school ...

      In Miass Chelyab. until last year, an aircraft modeling club existed (lasted a couple of years), while the Mashzavod paid for the rental of the premises, the children went there for free and dropped off only on paints. As funding ceased then everything is a "hut on a club." And where are all these
      Quote: tasha
      A network of Quantorium children's technology parks is being created across the country. By the end of the 2018 year, they should appear in the 51 region of Russia.
      FIG knows him. They did not hear about such a miracle and did not see it in their eyes.
  6. 0
    14 May 2018 07: 45
    It was a nutritious humus, on which it grew .........., shot frames
    The author, in my opinion, greatly exaggerates, no frames, as a result of doing aircraft modeling for the industry, of course didn’t make headway. Avia-model clubs distracted children from the street, by the way, these schools never had these circles, but they were in the Pioneer Palaces, I myself had a discharge, although very modest.
    What is Orthodox aircraft modeling - it’s hard to say, now the head can go round: Orthodox football, paratroopers, and dancing and singing — it’s better to keep silent.
  7. +13
    14 May 2018 07: 56
    Probably every boy had a dream to go up to heaven in Soviet times .... And now ... Somehow he asked his son: "Did you dream of becoming a military man, pilot, traveler, etc.? * He answered:" no ..... since childhood, I dreamed of having a lot of money and buy myself a cool computer, phone, car, etc. "
    1. +6
      14 May 2018 08: 35
      So it is precisely these ideas, this buy-sell ideology, that “our” banking anti-system are imposing on us, as a branch of the world banking system of capitalism. A different ideology is FORBIDDEN according to "our" Constitution.
      See at the root, dear. Banking capital Man is not profitable. Profitable robot with AI ...
      1. +1
        14 May 2018 09: 35
        Quote: cedar
        Banking capital Man is not profitable. Profitable robot with AI ..

        Everything is more complicated here. On the one hand, I don’t want to pay workers a decent salary, on the other hand, if I don’t pay, then who will buy products and services, which is bad for capital (capital is money that reproduces itself through the production of goods or services). Here are the Nashensky masters of life who want to beat everyone - to drive Russia’s natural wealth abroad, and then the people with their purchasing power are not needed. But Western colleagues made it clear that if there is nothing to protect themselves, then all these riches will be taken away, like in Iraq and Libya. It was on this basis that our masters of life experienced a break in the template: they understand that something needs to be done and what they don’t know. Oh, how they do not want to invest in Russia and its people! And they will have or lose everything, the Anglo-Saxons only have power in honor, i.e. strong country behind.
        1. +3
          14 May 2018 10: 16
          For that matter, it’s still more complicated. It is necessary that money would not be enough for everyone. That all would go to "our" banks and take loans on bail. You and I, on the security of a small apartment, cars, your employer, on the security of basic backgrounds, the municipality, on the security of housing, have gone and gone. It has now reached the point that, in the pledge of “our” banks of the Rothschild branches, there are pledges of THREE trillion dollars!
          If the Russians do not return the debts with interest, then Russia will be in the pocket of the Rothschilds and other bankers, which is what they need. And you, me and another 140 million Russian “pigs” they do not need to hell. It doesn’t eat pork ...
          We see at the root of the colonial dependence on the capital of the Naglosaksa, dear Russians ...
          Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!
          1. +1
            14 May 2018 11: 31
            You your ill fantasies, leave with you.
        2. 0
          14 May 2018 11: 33
          And now we’re not protecting ourselves like that.
          1. 0
            16 May 2018 15: 26
            Sorry, Dmitry Anatolyevich, did not recognize.

            You yourself may be protecting, but with the others, as 2014 showed, everything is a little more complicated.
    2. +1
      14 May 2018 10: 33
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      He replied: "no ..... since childhood, I dreamed of having a lot of money and buy myself a cool computer, phone, car, etc."

      The child is part of the family. If you only talk about this in the family, he wants it. My dream is to be a soccer player, goes to the section, play with him on the field. He doesn’t play almost a tablet, we play with him in the yard, ride great and so on ... And if you are sitting on the couch .. and supposedly leave me alone, do something yourself - then you don’t need to blame Putin or Obama. Begin with yourself. Do you have a dream ??
      1. +6
        14 May 2018 11: 30
        A dream .... My dreams ended in 1993, then I had to flee Dagestan with my family and there was only one dream — to survive, not to die of hunger .... Then there was a dream of “raising children” so that they would not sit on the wellfire .... Now, now, the dream is to ensure a decent old age .... Is there something wrong with my "dreams"?
        1. +2
          14 May 2018 11: 33
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          not to sit on the wellfire

          What, excuse me, fire?
          Do not answer, I understand .. it just happened to be fun.
        2. 0
          14 May 2018 11: 54
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Is there something wrong with my "dreams"?

          But you generalize with all of Russia. And many with the current government and children are studying well and there is work and not just to survive. Everyone has a different life, I’m happy, I have two children, both passionate boys, they have a lot of opportunities and who to become and what to do .. They were already in Europe, they learn languages. How can I blame the current government? How do I want a scoop in which I didn’t have what my children have ??
          1. +4
            14 May 2018 12: 59
            Where did I "generalize with all of Russia"? I wrote to myself.
          2. +1
            16 May 2018 14: 25
            Quote: Semen1972
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            Is there something wrong with my "dreams"?

            But you generalize with all of Russia. And many with the current government and children are studying well and there is work and not just to survive. Everyone has a different life, I’m happy, I have two children, both passionate boys, they have a lot of opportunities and who to become and what to do .. They were already in Europe, they learn languages. How can I blame the current government? How do I want a scoop in which I didn’t have what my children have ??

            You would be ashamed of the "scoop" - this is the country that your parents built. And you lived in it ... closer to the collapse. And what deprived you of your childhood that you hate your homeland? And what did Russia and the current government give you so much, and not only to you personally.
            And the difference between the “scoop” and Russia is that I could DREAM and fulfill my dream, and it all depended only on my desire, I did not need to think, but how to live? And I implemented it. But children, too, can dream, but with the amendment, how would they live, feed themselves to fulfill their dreams. Where I lived, there were also model-making circles, the house of pioneers - do whatever you want! Now there is nothing. I wanted to study and went to St. Petersburg, but anywhere I could. Parents, my ordinary employees, without straining, provided me money for the trip and accommodation at the time of admission. But the schoolchildren who are now there, for the most part, will not be able to go anywhere - parents will not even find money for their travel and living. Salary, for example, the director of a grocery store - 7 thousand rubles. Who then had a dream greater than eating well, buying an expensive car, dressing in expensive clothes and trumping all this, one does not have to admire the present life. Of course, this was not enough, it was also needed, but it was possible to provide this, and would have ensured, probably, without the current mass poverty, etc. negative phenomena that we now have. I want to ask: what is so outstanding that we acquired as a result? What have you lost? I am glad for you that everything is wonderful with you. I, in the sense that you are investing, is doing well too ... But, in the words of the movie hero: "I am sorry for the Power!"
    3. +1
      15 May 2018 10: 50
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Probably every boy had a dream to fly up to heaven in Soviet times.

      popularization by all means of the media and society from above. Now this is "not fashionable"
      Is that "Mask" and then not enough. Consumer society is not ready for mass heroism and feat. All the same, everyone has learned to value their quiet world and pleasures and is not ready to change to general.
  8. 0
    14 May 2018 08: 46
    What the author dreams of is already being realized. Thousands of students create technical innovations of this kind that they
    for some reason, foreigners are interested. Schoolchildren create interesting robots, but they mostly wear
    character. These robots are suitable for entertainment. Of course, the author needs to multiply the network of children's technical circles of different
    profile, but in order for these innovations to be transformed into practical results, we need the support of entrepreneurs at the moment. TV and print must be connected to this. In the end, the future of our country will not be determined by the participants of the current TV show, but by these talented guys who must open the way to the creators of our
    science and technology.
    1. +7
      14 May 2018 11: 47
      TV and print must be connected to this.
      ... Like, I’ll turn it over .. In a totalitarian, bloody mode, there was a popular computer program - you can do it yourself, about self-made ones ... that did very necessary things, cars, airplanes ... Their crafts were discussed .. As the audience went along .. And there was a desire to create .. And now they show, some scandalous shows do not matter on what topic ..
      1. +5
        14 May 2018 12: 25
        Quote: parusnik
        And now they show, some scandalous shows do not matter on what topic ..

        It is important on what topics !!! Syria, Ukraine, America !!!! That’s what should occupy the heads of our youth .. And we’ll turn off the Internet altogether so that we don’t bother with other nonsense. While the country is at war with Evil, not to gliders. Let Ukrainians better discuss America. What is this topic, if you can’t say "America will soon bend" ?? !!
        1. +4
          14 May 2018 12: 26
          Quote: Semen1972
          Semen1972

          Bad troll. Fat negative
      2. +3
        14 May 2018 12: 53
        Quote: parusnik
        ..Type, I’ll turn it around ... Under a totalitarian, bloody mode, there was a popular computer program. You can do this about self-made ones ... who did very necessary things, cars, planes ...
        I want to add. Sometimes in some unrelated plots there are such stories. Unfortunately, these are elderly people, probably under socialism they still went to circles. The last story of this was last year ---- in the Krasnodar Territory, an elderly man made a model of the current solar system and much more. For everyone. And political shows are a theater. But everyday plots are the smallest. As if the Russians are generally degrading, some kind of madhouse.
        Although, there are circles of robots. And the competition between them in a good space. In our city, anyway. My nephew has been involved for 12 years.
    2. +2
      14 May 2018 22: 20
      Respected nikvic46 (Nikolay Malyugin)I'm sorry, but our students are not doing anything. I speak on the basis of communication with students of 4 technical universities of Novocherkassk, Rostov and Taganrog. And in the military unit where I work, I constantly communicate with former students.
      I can say that in the country the system of extracurricular activities is covered up to death. Here, after all, the main are 2 points. The first is where to deal with the conditions that laboratories and workshops in universities are being destroyed in every way. The second thing to do your development from. A student cannot buy everything necessary for serious work. So there remains only gratuitous assistance in contractual work, which is done at universities. But there you have to do what is ordered without a flight of thought.
      Thus, the limit of our average student is the sets that are sold in Chip and Dip. Those crafts are made of them, on which our DAM is so moved in the “zombie man”.
      In short, all this is the Ost Plan in action. And so it will be as long as we are controlled by the current organized crime group.
  9. BAI
    +2
    14 May 2018 09: 28
    If we talk about the creation of universities, then you can not get past this:
    November 23, 1942, the Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR was signed on the formation of the Moscow Mechanical Institute of Ammunition (MMIB), known since 1945 as the Moscow Mechanical Institute (MMI). The name Moscow Engineering Physics Institute (MEPhI) received in 1953.
  10. 0
    14 May 2018 10: 28
    The education in Russia, especially in high school, for the most part does not stand up to criticism, at the maximum at the level of the old-time parish church.

    Based on what such a conclusion? And I will declare that our education is the best among the countries of the near abroad.
    1. 0
      14 May 2018 11: 40
      Especially in comparison with Ukraine!
    2. 0
      15 May 2018 14: 09
      Well, I would not be so categorical. If we assume that fractions in Europe and America begin to study from grades 7-8, then we are ahead of Europe
  11. +2
    14 May 2018 11: 12
    Judging by the picture Bear for Telegram?
  12. +2
    14 May 2018 11: 27
    Quote: bober1982
    .... by the way, these schools never had these schools, but they were in the Palaces of Pioneers ....

    Personally, I went to an airplane modeling club at school. Glider, rubber-engine, code models ... Everything was at school
  13. +4
    14 May 2018 11: 43
    Everything is written correctly. Maybe too enthusiastic, but essentially true.
    I have repeatedly thought myself about the opportunity to organize a group on aircraft modeling or photography for children (which I think). But so far every time I come to not very happy conclusions that in the modern world a person simply does not have time for this. Everything is so arranged that you barely have time to twirl between work, part-time job and family. Paste here another circle is not very successful. And with the commercial component, the question is - will parents pay? And without it now it’s nowhere. I doubt that there will be a crowd of people who want to pay for aircraft modeling, which is strange by modern standards. Parents are more likely to send their children to a foreign language and other, as it were, more useful courses.
  14. +1
    14 May 2018 13: 47
    Quote: Alex_59
    Everything is written correctly. Maybe too enthusiastic, but essentially true.
    I have repeatedly thought myself about the opportunity to organize a group on aircraft modeling or photography for children (which I think). But so far every time I come to not very happy conclusions that in the modern world a person simply does not have time for this. Everything is so arranged that you barely have time to twirl between work, part-time job and family. Paste here another circle is not very successful ...

    I remembered:
    ... “It would be wrong to think that it is possible to achieve such a serious cultural growth of members of society without major changes in the current situation of labor. To do this, first of all, REDUCE THE WORKING DAY, the day at least to 6, and then to 5 hours. This is necessary so that members of the society receive enough free time necessary to obtain a comprehensive education .... "
  15. +1
    14 May 2018 14: 18
    Or maybe it's time already? Now it’s straight ... after football, after the holidays. From September 1st

    So already!
    The next "May" decrees announced. Now I would fulfill them together with the old ones. But how and to whom, if we have a strategic course towards "stability" in everything?
  16. +2
    14 May 2018 15: 55
    There are computer simulation clubs. But there are practically no domestic programs for such circles. Children learn to comprehend foreign programs of automatic design, that's what depressing. Has anyone ever seen a domestic plotter? In my opinion, this should be discussed, and not about getting the Young Technician magazine from the attic in the country for 1973 for a year, and secretly from my grandfather, who usually kindles barbecue with the help of this magazine, start making a cord model of an airplane, although today, to buy plywood, for example, it’s enough to go to the nearest Leroy-Merlin.
    We have the best programmers in the world. And the institutions indicated in the article, in my opinion, carry out their functions in the education of youth. The question is, where do the graduates then go or go to work? As for the children, who simply need to be occupied, God himself ordered the church to do this, and there is nothing shameful that the priest attracts them to create different homemade products. Only it is unlikely that this will help to create 6, 7, 8 generations of aircraft, but it will certainly be a reliable support for this.
    1. +2
      14 May 2018 16: 48
      Has anyone ever seen a domestic plotter?
      ... By the way, yes, and the 21st century in the yard ...
    2. 0
      16 May 2018 15: 45
      Quote: 1536
      We have the best programmers in the world.

      It will be more accurate to say that we have a number of good programmers, and among other, less massive, working professions, there are many masters. You can even meet engineers occasionally. That's just all of them, for the most part, were still studying in under-optimized universities, and time will tell what will happen next.
  17. 0
    15 May 2018 10: 53
    Quote: parusnik
    TV and print must be connected to this.
    ... Like, I’ll turn it over .. In a totalitarian, bloody mode, there was a popular computer program - you can do it yourself, about self-made ones ... that did very necessary things, cars, airplanes ... Their crafts were discussed .. As the audience went along .. And there was a desire to create .. And now they show, some scandalous shows do not matter on what topic ..

    In your opinion, the totalitarian bloody regime is the Soviet Union. It is useless and unnecessary to argue with you. I meant
    quite another. In the United States of America, there are contests for the best technical ideas on TV. If an idea is useless, then
    10 dollars will be sent to the carrier of this idea. If the idea is standing, then an agreement is made with the innovator whether he will participate in the development of this innovation. If he does not agree, then he will receive prize money. This is what role TV plays in the technical and scientific
    creativity.
    1. 0
      15 May 2018 12: 06
      This is what you described typical headhunting. Moneybags sift sensible ideas that can be profitable. An ideal medium for inventions. Most of the nonsense is utter, but with the proper level of charisma, you can also raise the automatic ass-wiper to the level of the office of Ilon Mask.
  18. 0
    15 May 2018 14: 06
    And who with our children on Sunday even made one toy despite the fact that now all sorts of Chinese have been done and there are electric motors and even jet motors? I remember my first electric motor made from a tin can of condensed milk magnets from a magnetic furniture latch and knitting needle
  19. 0
    16 May 2018 17: 12
    Everything is very simple. At the temple, you can create any circle, club and other interests formation, provided that its concept of the Russian Orthodox Church is consistent and does not violate the law. It’s easier there. Less approvals and other pieces of paper, because so far our Church and the government are formally separated from each other.
    That is why caring fathers try to create clubs and circles in the parishes. It’s just that it’s much easier in the church community to find support and help. And financially do not depend on subsidies, plus a bunch of reporting documentation is not required.
    I myself lead the parish military-patriotic club, so I know the situation.
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    17 May 2018 14: 08
    [quote = Monster_Fat] Every boy probably had a dream to go up to heaven in Soviet times .... And now ... Once he asked his son: "did you dream of becoming a military man, pilot, traveler, etc.? * He replied: "no ..... since childhood I dreamed of having a lot of money and buy myself a cool computer, phone, car, etc.
    Well, SAM brought up ... who do you want to blame for this? My dream is to become a surveyor ... also brought up SAM

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