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The only working copy of SU-85 in the world appeared in Russia

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9 May at the Museum of Domestic Military stories The guests were solemnly shown the SU-85 self-propelled artillery, restored by museum staff, Russian restorers and helpers.

The uniqueness of this self-propelled gun is that it is one. Currently it is the only SU-85 in the world to be located:

a) in the original configuration;
b) on the go.

In general, in all museums of the world such machines are not more than ten. But, once again we emphasize: museum exhibits.

In Russia, SU-85 is, for example, in the Central Museum of the Armed Forces, but ... It is rather a corps in the state of "the patient is more dead than alive". The status of "not restored" says more than that.

So this instance is one of a kind.

The life of the car was long and interesting. Self-propelled battles, and shells spared her. "Drying" did not burn, was not seriously damaged. And after the war she was disarmed and sent to the national economy.

Specifically - on the railway, where she worked first in the Ministry of Railways, and then in JSC "Russian Railways" to the present day. As a heavy tractor.

With great pleasure we will inform the name of the savior.



Thanks to the efforts of Alexander Gennadyevich Zaitsev (pictured), the car was transferred from Russian Railways to the Museum of Russian Military History, and then the team of museum restorers led by General Director Dmitry Viktorovich Persheev brought the car into a view that we have the pleasure to see.



Congratulations to the staff of the museum and all domestic lovers of military history!



And then fell news: self-propelled gun is now really TWO!

Famous tank historian and specialist Yuri Pasholok on his blog (“Second SU-85 for one Victory Day”) told that at the parade in the city of Noginsk, Moscow Region, the second SU-85 took part, restored by enthusiasts to working condition.



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  1. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 16 May 2018 06: 19
    +16
    Thank you guys!
    1. Dam
      Dam 16 May 2018 13: 52
      0
      And it would be nice to create such a WWII tank museum. It would be great interest
      1. mkop
        mkop 18 May 2018 14: 26
        +1
        In the sense? Doesn’t the museum suit you in Kubinka? Or did you mean a museum where everything is on the go?
  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 16 May 2018 08: 03
    +5
    Glad for true enthusiasts. A little more than 2000 have been released. SU-85. The emergence of powerful tanks in Germany necessitated a larger gun so the famous SU-100 was created. It is still in service in a number of underdeveloped countries (Angola, Vietnam, Cuba ...).
  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 16 May 2018 09: 00
    +4
    M-o-l-o-d-c-s! And yet .... as they say, "joy mixed with bitterness"! How much of this and other equipment was produced! Wow! Not all of it was destroyed in battles .... but how many "died" in peacetime, who counted ?! Now, often “foreigners” ask “to allocate” this or that equipment to them, and “good” money is offered to them ... and “ours” in reply: “no ...!” From time to time VOV’s equipment is in the ground , swamps, in rivers .... at least take the state program to save the found equipment and its restoration! Now, not only the SU-85 fix can be found, but also the ASU-85, I suppose, you are tormented by the search ....
  4. BAI
    BAI 16 May 2018 09: 02
    +4
    Specifically - on the railway, where she worked first in the Ministry of Railways, and then in JSC "Russian Railways" to the present day. As a heavy tractor.

    It seems that there are quite a lot of military equipment in Russian Railways. In the early 70s at the Buzheninovo station, I often saw a tractor - a T-34 hull without a tower.
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 17 May 2018 06: 22
      +1
      and I saw him at Arzamas-2 station in 1989, from a distance, but then I decided that I had a glitch
  5. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 16 May 2018 11: 32
    +3
    we have a recovery train at the locomotive depot, until recently there were two tractors converted from su 100 or su 85, one had a hole in the case between the rollers welded with a sheet of armor, but unfortunately they were already cut into metal.
  6. svp67
    svp67 16 May 2018 12: 09
    +9
    I can only rejoice greatly for the fact that we have not just enthusiasts, but efficient enthusiasts. Able to find resources and drawings for such a job. SU-85 is a very interesting machine, in the process of its production, especially under completion, its design was strongly unified with the Su-100. Moreover, alterations were often done in parts at their base. Such a "self-propelled gun" stands in Verkhnyaya Pyshma, it has a gun mask from the SU-100 ... It was installed as a monument on a pedestal on February 23, 1946 on the territory of the Higher Advanced Training Courses for V.M. Molotov in the city of Lomonosov, Leningrad region. The combat vehicle installed as a monument was very peculiar, as it was the self-propelled gun body SU-85, rearmed with a 100 mm gun from the self-propelled gun SU-100. It is known that such machines were not mass-produced and probably this alteration was carried out directly in the training unit.
    By May 9, 2012, museum staff replaced the 100 mm gun with the 85 mm self-propelled gun, but the gun’s mask remained the same from the SU-100.

  7. alex-cn
    alex-cn 16 May 2018 13: 41
    +2
    Su 85 went into the army in the second half of 43 years, and the "comrade on the armor" is clearly in the form of an earlier period ... inconsistency ...
    But the fact that they saved a rather rare car in itself is worthy of respect.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 16 May 2018 21: 11
      +1
      Yes, this photo also hurt my eyes.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 16 May 2018 23: 53
      +6
      Quote: alex-cn
      Su 85 went into the army in the second half of 43, and the "comrade on armor" is clearly in the form of an earlier period ... inconsistency ..

      I drew attention to the “comrade without epaulettes”, but here, as in the “movie about the war” flaws are possible ... Of course, “I would not want to,” but what should I do if there should be a “combat self-propelled gun” in the car, and a suitable uniform was not found at the right time. You can "calm down" with the consideration that shoulder straps and a new uniform did not instantly appear in the troops ... there was a period when the "veterans" in the old "uniform and" fought side by side just arrived at the front in a new uniform ...
  8. moskowit
    moskowit 16 May 2018 18: 25
    +2
    "Tank self-propelled gun loved,
    she took her to the forest for a walk
    From such a romance
    the whole grove is broken .... "(from the best film about the war" In war, as in war ")
  9. pilot64
    pilot64 16 May 2018 21: 21
    +1
    Like Maleshkin!
    1. Old warrior
      Old warrior 20 May 2018 11: 25
      0
      Maleshkin, it seems, fought on the SU-100?
      1. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 21 May 2018 10: 08
        +1
        on the SU-85, and in the movies really on the SU-100! according to the SU-85 book already in the first lines
  10. nnz226
    nnz226 16 May 2018 22: 22
    +2
    Thanks to the restorers! Only a comrade with buttonholes sticking out of a self-propelled hatch does not correspond to reality! If I’m not mistaken, then the Su-85 appeared at the front in the 1943 year, to fight the “Tigers” and “Panthers”, and in the 1943 year there were already epaulets ...
  11. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 16 May 2018 22: 58
    0
    Just great!
  12. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 18 May 2018 20: 19
    +2
    Damn it, it's just some kind of holiday !!! good SU-85, on the move, and even a "doublet" ... Well done, thank you very much human! hi Well, now, if, suddenly, someone decides to remove the new version of "At War as at War", then there will be no problems with props. yes Only so that without Hollywood am , enough .
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 19 May 2018 06: 56
      +1
      it’s not necessary, props are not a problem, but artists of those geniuses cannot be returned and it’s better not to play them,
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 19 May 2018 08: 31
        +1
        Quote: serg.shishkov2015
        artists of those geniuses cannot be returned and it’s better not to play them ,,,

        This is not even discussed. Largely, thanks to their game, the film became a classic of Russian cinema almost immediately after the release. Another thing is that the film was shot “based on” the story of Kurochkin (by the way, the gunner Domeshek dies in the film, and Sanya Maleshkin in the book), because if they were shot exactly according to the plot, the film might not have been missed.
        1. serg.shishkov2015
          serg.shishkov2015 19 May 2018 10: 37
          0
          I have this book! there’s another situation - everyone liked Maleshkin and didn’t shoot exactly according to the book, so they removed it like that and presented it to the Hero according to Maleshkin’s book!
          1. Old warrior
            Old warrior 20 May 2018 11: 27
            +1
            His ridiculous death in the finale of Kurochkin’s work, pretty much spoiled the general impression of the book ... And most importantly, why?
            1. serg.shishkov2015
              serg.shishkov2015 21 May 2018 06: 18
              0
              because in war as in war ,,,,,
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 19 May 2018 13: 01
    0
    The uniqueness of this self-propelled gun is that it is one. Currently it is the only SU-85 in the world to be located:
    a) in the original configuration;
    And a gun?
  14. Old warrior
    Old warrior 20 May 2018 11: 21
    +1
    I propose to bring all such monuments in Russia to working condition. Such a time, unpredictable ... the benefit of their participation in the war in the Donbass was quite successful, in the first stage, of course ... soldier
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 21 May 2018 06: 23
      0
      IS-2 stands not far from the house in memory of Dukhov and Muzrukov, who after the war worked in my city on the BoNboy, the Tank came to the parking lot at its own pace on November 7, 1987, saw it from the balcony, before that it worked as a tractor on the site, its Atomists restored
    2. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 30 May 2018 08: 57
      0
      Nikolai Lvovich ... I hope that your proposal to bring all the monuments in working condition ... is inspired by memories of past events from your own life. In the "Inhabited Island" of the Strugatsky brothers there is a description of the first strike of fines on archaic tanks ... I was so sorry for the murdered Guy and the surviving Maxim after the attack of DEATHERS on these devices sent for slaughter. And the second wave went already modern cars with all their attendant personalities. The seventh grader asked a simple question - why they use iron historical sights ... conclusion: those who sat in them were unnecessary to anyone. This can only be used because of hopelessness.
  15. seacap
    seacap 20 May 2018 12: 17
    0
    I bow to such people who are not indifferent to their great and glorious history, which means they love their homeland and their people, it is a pity that there are few such officials in the business community.
  16. seacap
    seacap 20 May 2018 12: 27
    0
    Quote: Old Warrior
    Maleshkin, it seems, fought on the SU-100?

    If on the SU100, then this should be the Lake Balaton district of Hungary, the end of 1944, Ukrainian units 1 began re-equipment for these self-propelled guns in November 1944. There are still Ukrainian villages in the cinema, and the central part of the republic.
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 21 May 2018 10: 10
      0
      and the Nazis with Kalash in the background!
  17. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 30 May 2018 07: 32
    0
    I saw a working Su-100 in Gusinka standing with a diesel engine in an open box. The case is definitely good, but why put emphasis in the heading "the only one in the world" ??? Or maybe it is available in private collections ... well, people collect military vehicles at home ... riding them for fun wassat