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And in fifth place is “The Knight”. NI has identified the top five best submachine guns

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The national magazine The National Interest once again carried out a comparative analysis and, by some criteria, identified the five most deadly submachine guns in the world.


In its article, the publication distributed the space as follows:
In the first place is the Belgian submachine gun FN-P90, developed by FN Herstal. PP is built according to the bullpup scheme, the store is located behind the trigger. This allowed weapon more compact, retaining the trunk length of 256,5 mm with a total length of PP in 500 mm. Mounted on top of the receiver, the magazine holds 50 ammo. This solves the problem of a bulging store that may interfere with carrying. The FN-P90 rate of fire is 900 shots per minute, caliber - 5,7x28 mm.
And in fifth place is “The Knight”. NI has identified the top five best submachine guns


In second place is the Mk 18 Mod 0 carbine (M4 CQBR). The author of the article, Kyle Mizokami, notes that although the Mk 18 Mod 0 carbine is not a submachine gun and uses 5,56x45 mm ammunition like the full-size M4 carbine, the 262 mm barrel makes it a very compact weapon. It was developed in the USA as a replacement for the Heckler & Koch MP5 for SEAL units. The first versions of the Mk 18 Mod 0 were equipped with a carrying handle, but later it was replaced with a Picatinny rail for attaching scopes and other equipment. The result, the author writes, is a powerful and highly effective weapon that is convenient to use in urban environments or on board a ship.


In third place is the Heckler & Koch MP7. Externally, the German MP7 submachine gun looks like a huge pistol, but inside it is hidden a modern automation system. A new cartridge has also been specially developed for the MP7. MP7 is a fully automatic submachine gun. As in the case of the Israeli Uzi, the magazine is inside the PP grip. This made it possible to reduce the length of the PP to 638 mm with the butt unfolded and 415 mm with the stock folded. Automation, built according to the scheme with a gas engine with a short stroke of the gas piston, made it possible to shorten the PP as much as possible. The cartridge 7 × 4,6 mm specially designed for the MP30 is designed for aimed fire at a distance of up to 200 meters and the most effective destruction of targets in body armor. The possibility of using magazines for 20, 30 or 40 rounds is provided. Currently, the MP7 is in service with a number of special forces.


In fourth place, the publication placed Heckler & Koch MP5. The German MP5 submachine gun, long considered an exemplary PP, is still in service with the police and the army in many countries around the world. This submachine gun is a miniature version of the G-3 rifle chambered for 9 × 19 mm Parabellum. As a rule, the MP5 is equipped with a 30-round magazine. The length of the PP with the butt unfolded is, depending on the modification, from 680 to 700 mm. There are various PP options. For example, the MP5SD with an integrated silent flameless firing device or the MP5K with a shortened barrel and forend and an additional grip. The MP5 gained worldwide fame in 1980, when British special services fighters used this PP to free hostages from the Iranian embassy in London. Soon after, it became the favorite weapon of special forces around the world.


And in the fifth, honorable place - PP-19-01 "Vityaz" of Russian production. For many years, the Soviet and Russian army relied on the AKS-74 — a shortened version of the AK-74. In 2000, Russia presented a replacement for the legendary machine gun - PP-19-01 Vityaz. Like the AKC-74U and the German MP5, the Vityaz is a smaller version of the machine chambered for the 9 × 19 mm Parabellum cartridge. His length with butt spread out - just 705 millimeters. Empty PP weight - 2,9 kg. The rate of "Vityaz" is 800 shots per minute, sighting range - 200 meters. The manufacturer sets on the "Knight" Picatinny rail, which allows him to install various sights.
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Vitaly V. Kuzmin / wikimedia.org
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  1. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 11 May 2018 13: 17
    +11
    It’s strange, why didn’t they give the first 10 places to their weapons ??? recourse belay Immediately impose sanctions against the magazine! am lol
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 11 May 2018 14: 06
      +5
      Yes pulled up amerskie ratings! If you believe them, then the best world 2 shooter - a guarantor, Thompson and an iron-colt!
      1. aws4
        aws4 12 May 2018 00: 02
        +2
        well, they are partly right .. the guarantor m1 is a very good rifle that could completely replace the store ones .. and by the way the only one during WWII .. on the account of Tommy, here I agree nothing outstanding just appeared very early, well, Colt 911 if you had it in mind a wonderful gun and for a long time survived the same mt although it appeared 20 years earlier than him dp and in my opinion all who can survive ..
  2. Altona
    Altona 11 May 2018 13: 21
    +5
    For some reason, Israeli gunsmiths were left out of the rating, as were Swiss.
    B&T APC308 / APC308 DMR submachine gun


    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 11 May 2018 13: 24
      +4
      Now from Israel there will be a call to the magazine, and the Israelis from the first 10 places for their weapons will receive all 15! !! wassat
    2. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 11 May 2018 13: 28
      +4
      And where to put Israeli products?
      In my opinion, all 5 places in the case.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 May 2018 13: 47
        0
        In the West, a fashion for an intermediate cartridge went. They make very short “carbines”. In their experience, submachine guns can not cope with tasks in the open. And it took power at a distance not to 50, but to 200 meters
    3. gromoboj
      gromoboj 11 May 2018 18: 17
      0
      Judging by the dimensions of the store, this PP is made under the NATO cartridge. 5.56
  3. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 11 May 2018 13: 23
    +1
    Sorry did not illustrate the article, for clarity
  4. Azazelo
    Azazelo 11 May 2018 13: 32
    +6
    Well, since for the author there is no difference in the cartridge, what about 9A91 did not say anything? All these tops are UG.
  5. senima56
    senima56 11 May 2018 13: 43
    +2
    And why is the PP-2000 not in comparison?
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 May 2018 04: 12
      0
      Quote: senima56
      And why is the PP-2000 not in comparison?

      they don’t know him, they don’t know who uses it, they don’t know the characteristics of the weapon, and finally "I like the Bentley, because it’s silver"
  6. Nelepost
    Nelepost 11 May 2018 13: 43
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    What a terrible reprint of the article .. It is terrible that the moderators of VO allow this to be posted on their own.
    Although the author would use the photo.
  7. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 11 May 2018 14: 06
    0
    Well, let's talk about a submachine gun.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 11 May 2018 14: 56
      +3
      Let’s say, we will listen to you, if there is anything to say on the case!
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 11 May 2018 14: 58
      +7

      let's talk laughing
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 11 May 2018 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: inkass_98
        Let's talk laughing


        and more
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 13 May 2018 15: 42
          0
          It was a joke, and then immediately such a serious approach was formed.
  8. nikoliski
    nikoliski 11 May 2018 14: 25
    -1
    1st place is well deserved, but about our Vityaz I have not seen it anywhere - we still have the police with AK-74u
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 11 May 2018 22: 25
      0
      Quote: nikoliski
      1st place deservedly

      Why, interesting? ..
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 11 May 2018 23: 11
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      Quote: nikoliski
      1st place is well deserved, but about our Vityaz I have not seen it anywhere - we still have the police with AK-74u

      our "Wedge" is in service, not counting the "Ksenia" and "Makarka" ...
  9. Topotun
    Topotun 11 May 2018 14: 34
    +11
    Yes nafik, our weapon, if not better, then definitely not worse. All these ratings are from the evil one. Any trunk has pros and cons. And to evaluate which is better? War will show (God forbid of course). Although if it happens, I would prefer a Kalash caliber of 7,62 .... And do not care that the ammunition is heavier.
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 11 May 2018 19: 36
      0
      I absolutely agree with all the comments.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 11 May 2018 23: 14
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      Quote: Topotun
      Although if it is possible, I would prefer a Kalash caliber 7,62

      and something with 9x39 calibers (SR-3m / AC) and .338 LM (SR100, although it has 3 calibers in a set) ...
  10. friend of animals
    friend of animals 11 May 2018 14: 39
    +2
    I love such articles with pictures and the indignation of weapons experts in the comments. And the sight is on a hero, I suppose, foreign!
    1. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon 11 May 2018 22: 34
      0
      and the cartridge too)
  11. sabakina
    sabakina 11 May 2018 14: 42
    +4
    And only PPSh could get from Moscow to Berlin! And even 73 years later, is in service somewhere ....
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 11 May 2018 14: 58
      +4
      Vyacheslav hi and after all people fought without any body kits, Picattini slats! hi And how they fought! !!!! good
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 May 2018 15: 02
        0
        Greetings to Sergey! What body kit and picattini in the city? 60 rounds per disk (yes, the disk was not perfect), in the house, on the street, a wall of bullets!
        1. Huumi
          Huumi 11 May 2018 19: 01
          +1
          Well, I read the submachine gunner — I’ve run the whole war with different ones — the drive is necessary — only more of them are good. that there’s no time ...... PPSh heats once and the entire bolt group is open
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 11 May 2018 22: 21
            +1
            Quote: Huumi
            Himself grit that PPD is perhaps the best of ours

            Why at least? I heard about PPP ...
            1. Huumi
              Huumi 11 May 2018 23: 49
              0
              And here is an ambush. I quote a veteran: the one who says that PPS is the best submachine gun, I fundamentally disagree with this. We took it back after 2 months of use and returned PPSh without explanation and no longer gave out. PPS was good at that who in real life will never fight with him is the guard, the calculations of guns, drivers, etc. the flimsy design of the receiver, the flimsy butt, the mine shaft quickly loosened, and he didn’t hit it all, don’t drop it, etc. etc. not stable when shooting, the extractor breaks.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 12 May 2018 08: 41
                0
                Here the opinions of veterans are different, my grandfather and Degtyarev light machine gun did not praise, and some praise. The conditions under which weapons were collected at the front often did not contribute to the quality of these weapons. There were problems with PPSh ... Disk shops, my grandfather did not praise, not to a machine gun, not to PPSh (especially). Complex in equipment, "moody", carob spokes, were more convenient. Everyone has different opinions.
                1. Huumi
                  Huumi 12 May 2018 13: 31
                  0
                  Duck is right. The veteran said that they had to be dragged in reserve. And more so because he seemed to grill that an empty tambourine was considered to be left without weapons. The PPSh was dangerous, the fuse popped off. but considering that it was a branch machine gun, it seemed like they loved easel tambourines for them. And so, as he said, PPD. That is, he said he would be more reliable. PCP is worse, but even he was returned to the PPP place and he was seized. And in general, as he told, old men taught PPSh to beat young people single. the thread, for example, was like a receiver easily bent, flimsy
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 11 May 2018 22: 20
      +1
      Heavy and bulky PPSh ...
      1. Huumi
        Huumi 11 May 2018 23: 49
        +1
        But it is stable when shooting (just the lack of PPP) and single-handedly showed good accuracy.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 12 May 2018 08: 42
          0
          That is yes. But still, too heavy. IMHO.
          1. Huumi
            Huumi 12 May 2018 22: 03
            0
            Goblin knows it, the rifle weighed about the same.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 12 May 2018 22: 12
              0
              About a kilogram or a little more difference ... For me it is so significant, but Mosinka is already outdated by that time. IMHO.
              1. Huumi
                Huumi 12 May 2018 22: 19
                0
                I don’t know how outdated, but complaints went to her throughout the war, but according to one veteran, she kept dirt better than hever. But hever was applied and, more precisely, a little bit more accurate, and its finish was higher. the soldiers were beautifully dressed. In general, I believe that if the quality of the rifles was royal, they would have beaten better, otherwise you could have cut the arm against the bolt.
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 12 May 2018 22: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Huumi
                  gever.zatu gever applied and, more precisely, a little

                  Which hever? Mauser mean? So, in comparison with the “dragoon” that was in service with the Red Army, it has already undergone modernization and was essentially a carbine, to which our people arrived by the year 44. In my opinion, the Red Army already had good weapons of the SVT 40 type, but the "culture" of handling the weapons, the technical and soldier’s literacy in general, did not allow the use of these weapons with sufficient effectiveness by the masses of soldiers. trained) and snipers used SVT very productively. The Germans, again, appreciated the SVT. In short, any weapon requires care. All this is my IMHO, there are people more competent in this matter, correct, if that.
                  1. Huumi
                    Huumi 13 May 2018 06: 56
                    0
                    The Finns loved SVT, Germans and sailors .. No matter how cultured a soldier he was and no matter how he looked after SVT. Go on the attack, force the river-sand to hit or scatter it with an earth-blow, it can stop at any moment work, because experienced soldiers said changing the SVT to Mosin, even 5 but all mine (cartridges) than how the soldiers said at the most crucial moment to remain unarmed
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 13 May 2018 08: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Huumi
                      as experienced soldiers said, changing SVT to Mosin, even 5 but all mine (cartridges) than how the soldiers said at the most crucial moment to remain unarmed

                      I’ll tell you a secret, Kalash, you also need to care. And all these excuses about the fellow countryman will sprinkle, only excuses, which just indicate not experience, but illiteracy and laziness. And to understand for yourself, you need to take a Mosinka (not a carbine) or PPSh, and walk into the mountains for two days. So you will find out that every kilogram (and dimensions) matters. But you need to feel it yourself, from books it is not so clear ... wink
                      1. Huumi
                        Huumi 13 May 2018 10: 59
                        0
                        Listen, that’s all I didn’t get from heaven — all these questions to veterans. No one in FIG needs to stay with a jammed rifle at the crucial moment of the battle! -Took a mosin and that's what the veteran said just as she read, she shoots like that just a little bit, she refuses !!! and so you can’t figure it out !!!! complex!!!! And nafig, she didn’t glance at the front line, or handed it back or threw it away if there was no one to hand it over. In FIG, she wasn’t needed there. in Karelia, we have a barrel in one direction — a bolt is thrown to the other and that’s all. So that the Finn wouldn’t pick it up. Yes, and even the Finns rarely used them — they took our mosin — they were better than their version
  12. Altona
    Altona 11 May 2018 15: 07
    +1
    Quote: Topotun
    Although, if it happens, I would prefer a Kalash caliber of 7,62 ...

    ------------------------------
    The funny thing is, my friend, that you are expressing a point of view popular with a simple American layman. Well, mine too ... In the southern states, our AK with this caliber is very popular. laughing laughing
  13. beeper
    beeper 11 May 2018 15: 45
    +2
    Ah, Kyle Mizokami ?! smile An old Soviet joke, almost on this topic:
    "The war occupied by the Nazis in Belarus, the railway, on it the partisans strike a match for three of them, trying to set fire to the Bikford cord to the explosives under the rail ...
    It’s impossible to light matches, they break, but they don’t burn! They were so carried away by the "process" that they did not notice how a German patrol led by an officer approached them ...
    Officer: "Partisans ?! And what kind of matches?" Gomeldrev "?! ... Well, go on, go on ... we will not interfere!" "
    Mr. Kyle’s choice is mysterious and incomprehensible to me, I can only speculate yes
    Threat "submachine gun", firing a rifle cartridge is nonsense, in the ratings of the PP is not good at all! IMHO
  14. Elephant
    Elephant 11 May 2018 17: 22
    +1
    This strap of heavy fabric with metal elements in the Russian knight simply infuriates me ... I'm not talking about outdated ammunition ...
    1. Huumi
      Huumi 11 May 2018 19: 02
      0
      And what kind of sorry are they used? Makarov 9 to 18?
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 11 May 2018 23: 24
        0
        Quote: Huumi
        And what kind of sorry are they used? Makarov 9 to 18?

        9X19 ...
        Caliber 9 × 19mm (Luger / Parabellum / 7Н21)
        Weight ~ 3 kg without cartridges
        Length (butt folded / open) 460/698 mm
        Barrel length 230 mm
        Rate of fire 750 rounds per minute
        Capacity of 30 magazine cartridges
        Effective range 100-200 meters
  15. san4es
    san4es 11 May 2018 18: 54
    +2
    In the first place is the Belgian submachine gun FN-P90, developed by FN Herstal.
    This is a personal defense weapon P90 (PDW) made by Fn Herstal 5.7x28mm
    1. beeper
      beeper 11 May 2018 21: 08
      +4
      Thank you, Comrade Sanchez! good You know why! yes
      It so happened that with the designer P90, we (as I found out much later), probably, almost at the same time worked (for the salary, on assignment, I for our Soviet homeland, on our own initiative) on similar ones " apparatuses ", with a longitudinal arrangement of stationary box-shaped shops ...
      I don’t know what inspired Rene Predazzer, but I’ve published in ZVO the scheme of the chamber of the German experimental rifle G11 and the desire to get away from the store sticking out from below.
      So that you can, after running across, fall to the ground, cuddle against it with your whole body (like a beloved woman, closely, closely) and calmly, especially not protruding, aim, as from an ordinary "mosquito (or" Mauserka " smile ) "...
      My cartridge was our automatic, so I didn’t even consider locking with a free shutter (and what I considered, it’s not interesting wink ) ..., the machine case, the feeder and the shops (at least the neck) should have been stamped, like AKM ...
      Rene and I decided the store and the feeder, their layout in different ways, due to the different conceptual approach and the “designer baggage”, and the “geometry” of the ammunition used played a role, I don’t know how the Belgian would “roll out” the standard NATO cartridge for auto rifles? request
      But I was always interested in this one of his (clearly visible in the video you submitted good ) the "store" screw ramp, how it works, how it is equipped, I am impressed by the plastic transparency of the store, but I don’t like the way it is manipulated when changing it and the mega-vulnerability to contamination is obvious, like a "radius" recess-window under the store feeder in the upper part of the PC, and the feeder itself, if the store is accidentally dropped into dirt or sand ...
      In addition, I consider it a disadvantage to have too close an arm holding the PP in aim shooting, although, of course, aimless shooting with one hand at close range is possible. IMHO
      In general, I think the P90 is very good PP, structurally simple and very technological in production, with good technical specifications. yes
      Although there may be problems with replenishment of ammunition when widely used in combined arms combat, when separated from their rear. But in the PDV niche for which it was intended, is the P90 planned to be used only to a limited extent, only sporadically, and with a small expenditure of ammunition?
      hi
      1. san4es
        san4es 11 May 2018 21: 32
        +2
        hi ... Always please ... Just a video fact in your text yes
        ... I don’t know what inspired Rene Predazzer, but I published the scheme of the chamber of the German experimental rifle G11 published in the ZVO and the desire to get away from the store sticking out from below.
        So that you can, after running across, fall to the ground, cuddle against it with your whole body (like a beloved woman, closely, closely) and calmly, especially not protruding, aim, as from an ordinary "mosquito (or" Mauserka "

        ...If I understood correctly smile
        Heckler & Koch G11 Assault Rifle
        1. beeper
          beeper 11 May 2018 22: 43
          +3
          Yes, you understood correctly, Comrade Sanchez! good
          At the beginning of 70, only fragmentary information was about these developments, and from the first descriptions and photographs it was impossible to understand how the mechanism works, I personally wondered and fantasized about a possible device, but it never occurred to me that the store was constantly, with great acceleration , rolls back and rolls, along with the carriage receiver and so painfully (even more problematic than in the P90) changes smile request .
          It was only later published in the journal Foreign Military Review that the principle diagram of the action of the rotating chamber helped me, comparing with the general appearance of the log-like G11, to imagine the most likely internal layout of the nodes ... and I thought what could happen if I used a regular, non-combusting, AK cartridge - this task seemed interesting to me, but I moved "back and forth, with great speed, like a load of VARIABLE mass," I did not like yes , as well as thoughts about an intermediate power cell (used, as it later turned out, by G.N. Nikonov in his work on the future AN-94) did not arise either, generals from GAU did not dominate me and I went a completely different way, while deciding tasks that seemed to me more relevant in an ideal army machine (as I came up with for myself ... it’s also not interesting wink ) ...
          hi
          1. san4es
            san4es 11 May 2018 23: 59
            +2
            Quote: pishchak
            ... the schematic diagram of the action of the rotating chamber helped me by comparing it with the general view of the log-like G11

            hi ... Also read about it .:

            ... it seems like the P90 mechanism looks more reliable:
            ... Yes, and with a sleeve, it is somehow more familiar ... yes :
            1. beeper
              beeper 12 May 2018 01: 54
              +2
              Thank you, Comrade Sanchez, for quickly providing thematic video information. good ! How do you succeed? winked
              In ZVO, the scheme was simply painted in phases, since there was no computer animation then. There are advantages and disadvantages to both the G11 and the P90 ...
              The P90’s cartridge feed mechanism (to the dispatch line) is not located in the PP case, but is built into each store, which leads to inevitable savings and the use of not very high-quality materials, due to the additional cost of the so-complicated replaceable “cartridges” request
              1. san4es
                san4es 12 May 2018 11: 06
                +1
                Quote: pishchak
                ... How do you succeed ... winked

                request ... shot wink hi
  16. armourer
    armourer 11 May 2018 19: 24
    0
    MP 5 is an excellent submachine gun, this model deserves attention
  17. Netzah netzah
    Netzah netzah 11 May 2018 22: 00
    +1
    And the “Knight” is here what side then? You can’t hang Glushak, Tefes makhsanit ... damn, how do you think ... the magazine latch is uncomfortable, the shutter lag is dumb. And in terms of body kit is not a fountain.
    HK UMP, CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1, SIG MPX, even UZI Pro or Tavor under 9 mm will be better.
    1. Conserp
      Conserp 12 May 2018 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Netzah Netzah
      And the “Knight” is here what side then? Glushak not hang

      There is a silencer. There are straps for body kit.
      The main meaning of Vityaz is the almost complete identity of motor skills with AK.
  18. Sergey ippon
    Sergey ippon 11 May 2018 22: 32
    +1
    all the salt is that the cartridge is a luger!
    therefore hit their rating.
  19. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 12 May 2018 05: 25
    0
    Saiga 9 has worked well (with a free shutter)