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No analogues. In the United States called the unique weapon of the Russian army

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Russian high precision aviation “Dagger” missile system has no analogues all over the world, - opinion of The National Interest columnist Dave Majumdar.


No analogues. In the United States called the unique weapon of the Russian army


No other country has an air-launched ballistic missile, so Moscow is right in believing that the Dagger has no equivalent outside of Russia,
the author writes.

According to him, the Dagger rocket was made on the basis of the Iskander rocket and "is capable of maneuvering in flight and has an unpredictable trajectory that makes it difficult to intercept," but it "cannot be considered hypersonic weaponsbecause it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine. "

So in the end, "Dagger" is a formidable weapon,
concludes Majumdar.

For the first time about the "Dagger" said Russian President Vladimir Putin in March 2018. According to available data, "Dagger" is a "modernized version of the quasi-ballistic single-stage solid-fuel missile 9М723 of the Iskander complex, supported by a supersonic all-weather fighter-interceptor MiG-31."

As the Diplomat edition reported in April, at present not only Russia, but also China has airballistic missiles.
Photos used:
Evgeny Biyatov / RIA News
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 May 2018 11: 26
    +8
    There is no antidote to the dagger ...
    So in the end, "Dagger" is a formidable weapon,

    And in the coming years is not expected.
    however, it “cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine”.

    He threw our MO drawings on the soap ...
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 11 May 2018 11: 30
      +20
      And again, this tabloid NI with its Majumdar ...
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 11 May 2018 11: 50
        +21
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        with his Majumdar ..


        don't swear ...
        1. Hire
          Hire 11 May 2018 13: 06
          +11
          Quote: vorobey
          don't swear ...

          How can one not swear here?
          however, it “cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine”.

          What does the engine type have to do with it? Any object flying at a speed of more than 5Max is hypersonic, regardless of which engine “pushes” it. This "expert" is a typical Majumdar! laughing
          Oh sorry. Forgot to say hello. Pasha, Sasha, my respect hi
          1. For example
            For example 11 May 2018 15: 40
            +7
            however, it “cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped ...

            an armchair ... wassat
      2. MPN
        MPN 11 May 2018 11: 55
        +10
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        And again, this tabloid NI with its Majumdar ...

        Quote: NEXUS
        He threw our MO drawings on the soap ...

        It’s not so simple ..., the states developed airborne ballistic missiles and even carried out a large volume of tests, almost the entire cycle ... and it must be said successfully ..., But they allegedly didn’t put them into service because gone ...
        However, it’s just that the BRVB and the “Dagger” are somewhat different pepelats, and here our expert does not understand what he is advocating, either be afraid of the Russians or don’t just send it away, BR .. yes
        1. ZVO
          ZVO 11 May 2018 12: 42
          +1
          Quote: MPN

          It’s not so simple ..., the states developed airborne ballistic missiles and even carried out a large volume of tests, almost the entire cycle ... and it must be said successfully ..., But they allegedly didn’t put them into service because gone ...
          However, it’s just that the BRVB and the “Dagger” are somewhat different pepelats, and here our expert does not understand what he is advocating, either be afraid of the Russians or don’t just send it away, BR .. yes


          Ours also made BRVB ...
          And also, like the Americans realized the futility of this venture ...
          This is Dolce-Gabbana - i.e. Expensive and Stupid ...

          In fact, there is nothing particularly terrible in the Dagger.
          The missile is not hypersonic at the terminal site. Maybe at the peak it is at an altitude of 40-50km and reaches 5M, but towards the goal it will fly up at a speed of 2,5-3M. And it will be fully detectable and subject to interception.
          .
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 12: 55
            +10
            Quote: ZVO
            Maybe at the peak it is at an altitude of 40-50km and reaches 5M, but towards the target it will fly up at a speed of 2,5-3M

            And someone here does not know physics ... from the word "in general" request
            5M from at the peak? Why, then, on approaching the 3M target? Acceleration of free fall canceled, or what?
            1. Bad_santa
              Bad_santa 11 May 2018 13: 36
              +1
              Well, the caftan turned inside out. It happens to everyone. Rearrange the numbers and it will be similar to the truth (not the truth is unambiguous, but it seems)
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 14: 58
                +3
                Quote: Bad_Santa
                Rearrange the numbers and it will look like the truth

                That is, you are for the Three Machs "at the peak"?
                GYYY laughing laughing laughing
                Who is less ?? wink
                1. Hire
                  Hire 11 May 2018 18: 22
                  +6
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Who is less ??

                  What component of speed are you interested in - horizontal or vertical? The horizontal will be what the rocket will reach by the time the engine is turned off and practically will not change until the moment it collides with the target. And the vertical at the peak will be zero. This is if we are talking about a ballistic missile. But the “Dagger", as I understand it, is a quasi-ballistic missile, and there everything is a bit different.
            2. SOF
              SOF 11 May 2018 18: 24
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Acceleration of free fall canceled, or what?

              . wassat everything is very simple ... on approach she will release a brake parachute .....
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 11 May 2018 22: 12
      +1
      Terrible weapons but at a maximum range target designation is needed, for example, on an aircraft carrier
  2. Dimontius
    Dimontius 11 May 2018 11: 27
    +15
    Well, since Manjubar said no hypersound! They say the engine is NOT REAL, think of hypersonic speed! laughing In a word, Nintelinterest wassat
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 May 2018 11: 31
      +3
      Quote: Dimontius
      Well, since Manjubar said no hypersound! They say the engine is NOT REAL, think of hypersonic speed! laughing In a word, Nintelinterest wassat


      You do not understand the Amer essence. They believe that they are the bearers of standards.
      That’s the same idea .. can it screw some kind of Chinese likeness of such an engine? Let him just shoot at the start ... but it WILL be on a rocket. So that Americans consider it something there.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 May 2018 11: 38
      +6
      Quote: Dimontius
      Well, since Manjubar said no hypersound! They say the engine is NOT REAL, think of hypersonic speed!

      And Armata cardboard and rockets are rusty and on Red Square bears with balalaikas roam.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 11 May 2018 12: 08
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        And Armata cardboard and rockets are rusty and on Red Square bears with balalaikas roam.

        and in Syria, axes themselves fall. as well as a “combat rookie” who didn’t kill anyone and about whom his mouth was closed
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 11 May 2018 12: 31
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: Dimontius
        Well, since Manjubar said no hypersound! They say the engine is NOT REAL, think of hypersonic speed!

        And Armata cardboard and rockets are rusty and on Red Square bears with balalaikas roam.

        Maybe soon it will be so, the defense spending has been reduced, the government is pro-Western and the course seems to be the same too, but why should we conquer us and so everything will be exported there.
    3. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 11 May 2018 12: 10
      +1
      The complex, where the carrier plays the role of the accelerating first stage, does not fit in the head of an iksperd, so in Russian it gives out an alogism - in hypersound, but not hypersonic. Everything, as Zadornov said, rest in peace with him.
  3. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 11 May 2018 11: 29
    +14
    However, according to Majumdar, the weapon cannot be considered hypersonic, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine.
    - the amazing stupidity of individual experts is simply surprising. With the same success, we can say that birds are not flying creatures, since they lack engines.
    1. Ivan Tarava
      Ivan Tarava 11 May 2018 11: 49
      +1
      The Soyuz lander is also hypersonic, and the Iskander rocket in a certain area is also hypersonic and the warheads of ballistic missiles are also hypersonic in a certain area.
      1. bk316
        bk316 11 May 2018 12: 39
        +5
        The Soyuz lander is also hypersonic, and the Iskander rocket in a certain area is also hypersonic and the warheads of ballistic missiles are also hypersonic in a certain area.

        Of course, and what did you want to say with this post?
        1. Ivan Tarava
          Ivan Tarava 11 May 2018 12: 58
          +2
          That the dagger is not some kind of breakthrough in the field of hypersound, it should have happened by itself. Just some think the dagger is the only hypersonic aircraft in the world.
          1. bk316
            bk316 11 May 2018 15: 32
            +10
            I get it. Then you do not understand the essence of the dagger.
            The possibility or impossibility of intercepting a target is determined not only by speed, but also by trajectories (and also by EPR). All your examples are either purely ballistic or quasi-ballistic. That is, in the atmosphere they fly along a ballistic trajectory, in this case the speed is not so important, it is enough to calculate at what point in time at what point the target will be and send an anti-missile there, which for this purpose MUST NOT BE HYPERSONIC. The dagger is an aeroballistic target, that is, capable of maneuvering along the entire flight path in the atmosphere. Therefore, it is impossible to calculate the rendezvous point, but to intercept it is necessary to fly and maneuver faster and with greater overloads than a dagger, which is fundamentally impossible so far. So the dagger is completely unique.
            Is it clear now? I chewed as I could, even in places I had to sin against the truth.
            In general, in engineering, a breakthrough does not necessarily mean any fundamental discovery. Sometimes it’s enough to correctly use existing objects or principles. This is magnificently shown in the film Taming Fire on the example of the Queen.
    2. tap
      tap 11 May 2018 11: 49
      0
      Birds Have - Muscular
  4. sabakina
    sabakina 11 May 2018 11: 31
    +3
    No other country has a ballistic missile

    SchA comes "Abram" and on the fingers proves the opposite! laughing
    1. Zubr
      Zubr 11 May 2018 11: 44
      +3
      Something it is not visible, to see for the shell destroyed by SAA in front of GDP on the carpet in a beaver pose and with a jar of Vaseline .. wink lol
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 May 2018 11: 47
        +1
        Zubr, looked in a neighboring topic, hangs on the site, went to the hookah to smoke, he will appear right now ...
        1. Zubr
          Zubr 11 May 2018 11: 48
          +2
          He smokes a lot, it means he’s nervous, so he thinks a lot .... smile
  5. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 11 May 2018 11: 33
    +7
    it is necessary to test it in israel
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 11 May 2018 12: 29
      +2
      We hit it, and more than once, so the whole world is in ruin!
      But then laughing
  6. demos1111
    demos1111 11 May 2018 11: 38
    +3
    All this is bullshit. The Ministry of Defense launched daggers more than once, the mattresses were spied. (At an altitude of 100 km it can be seen from far away.)
    Another question excites me, the dagger flies above the “pocket” line, above the ultimate height of state responsibility. In other words, in a neutral airless space.
    This is true?
    In other words, if a dagger flies over dill and falls in the Black Sea, then this is not their Khokhlyatsk affair, is it against plane pirates?
    If I'm right, and it has a speed of 10000 km per hour, this is a revolution and it is clear why the West is so hysterical.
    1. Ren
      Ren 11 May 2018 12: 36
      0
      Quote: demos1111
      Another question excites me, the dagger flies above the “pocket” line, above the ultimate height of state responsibility. In other words, in a neutral airless space.

      Legally, there is no such concept (neutral airless space). Documents regulating the sovereignty of the airspace of states in terms of height in nature do not yet exist. Each state reserves the right to shoot down any objects over its territory, regardless of the altitude of the object.
      For reference, from the legislation of the Russian Federation:
      VZK RF, Article 1. Sovereignty in relation to the airspace of the Russian Federation
      1. The Russian Federation has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace of the Russian Federation.
      2. The airspace of the Russian Federation means airspace over the territory of the Russian Federation, including the airspace over internal waters and the territorial sea.
      Additionally, it follows from the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of March 11, 2010 N 138 Moscow “On Approving the Federal Rules for the Use of the Airspace of the Russian Federation” that the airspace of the Russian Federation is divided into lower and upper airspace:
      The boundary of the lower and upper airspace is a level of 8100 m, i.e. from 0 to 8099 - the lower;
      8100 - to infinity (not limited by law) - the top. hi
      1. Bad_santa
        Bad_santa 11 May 2018 13: 40
        0
        Above 100 km is already considered space. So knocking down space objects of another state, you commit an act of aggression. But 100 km is not about the Dagger
        1. Ren
          Ren 13 May 2018 07: 27
          0
          Quote: Bad_Santa
          Above 100 km is already considered space.

          Who, what and where is considered?
          Regulatory document, contract or something similar, please! bully
  7. Zubr
    Zubr 11 May 2018 11: 42
    +5
    According to him, the “Dagger” rocket is made on the basis of the Iskander rocket and “is capable of maneuvering in flight and has an unpredictable trajectory that makes it difficult to intercept,” but “it cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine” .


    And why is this ramjet engine needed? If she goes hypersound even without him? .. lol
    Well, experts are vigorous, what can I say something ?! smile
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 May 2018 11: 50
      +1
      Zubr, I told you, will appear right now! Read below.
  8. Vard
    Vard 11 May 2018 11: 45
    0
    We must still somehow get together and get to Voronezh ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 11 May 2018 11: 53
      +5
      Quote: Vard
      We must still somehow get together and get to Voronezh ...

      Was he bombed again?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 May 2018 12: 03
        0
        Vadim, judging by what Vard wrote below, they are going. And apparently Vard will bomb.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 11 May 2018 11: 54
      +1
      Excuse me, but what is there in Voronezh?
      1. Vard
        Vard 11 May 2018 12: 00
        +4
        Our government gathered to bomb the western world ... Well, the first target ... New York ... here one of the ministers says ... you can’t ... I have a daughter there ... Well then London ... just two. .. impossible! We have children there ... in general, we went over the whole world ... Shoigu and says ... but let's bomb Voronezh ... there are no relatives there ...
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 11 May 2018 11: 59
      +6
      Quote: Vard
      We must still somehow get together and get to Voronezh ...


  9. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 11 May 2018 11: 46
    0
    The task is completed, the adversary trembles with horror. Congratulations to Dave Majumdar on the early assignment of the rank of KGB Colonel.
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 11 May 2018 11: 47
    +5
    The main thing is that the “Dagger” can be drowned by aircraft carriers and destroyers of Russia's main enemy, and the rest is all verbal fornication. am
  11. Abram
    Abram 11 May 2018 11: 47
    +1
    So quasiballistic or aeroballistic? maybe just ballistic? winked what only these "experts" will not invent
    1. bk316
      bk316 11 May 2018 12: 36
      +7
      If you are not able to distinguish between a ballistic trajectory from a quasiballistic and a quasiballistic from aeroballistic, then you should study the materiel, and not complain about experts.
      Moreover, it is very simple, at the secondary school level.
      Iskander-M quasi-ballistic;
      Dagger - according to aeroballistic statements;
      1. Abram
        Abram 11 May 2018 13: 00
        +1
        I’m not a chicken to delve into the dunghill, look for the difference in terms coined by "experts" and journalists smile For me, there is only one thing - ballistic
        1. bk316
          bk316 11 May 2018 14: 50
          +4
          For me, there is only one thing - ballistic

          And the airplanes on the Telaviv-Washington route along which trajectory fly?
          If you from all mathematics have mastered only adding integers within 100, this is not a reason for pride, this is a reason for sadness ....
          1. Abram
            Abram 11 May 2018 17: 31
            0
            where are the planes if we are discussing two paths born by a sick imagination and one normal? smile or do you think airplanes also fly along one of these three? smile
      2. Bad_santa
        Bad_santa 11 May 2018 13: 42
        +1
        Dagger - Quasi-Aeroballistic fellow lol wassat
  12. tap
    tap 11 May 2018 11: 48
    0
    And what about the nuclear-powered KR? Is anything heard?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 May 2018 11: 51
      +3
      Yes, something flew over Kostroma yesterday ...
      1. Zubr
        Zubr 11 May 2018 12: 26
        +1
        Still flying from the moment of presentation? smile
        1. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 11 May 2018 13: 45
          +1
          In one school with geese flies. Greenpeace doesn’t let go
        2. bk316
          bk316 11 May 2018 14: 52
          +4
          Purely theoretically, it can fly for months (and the atmosphere of the working fluid is dofig, the reactor is working) bully
        3. SOF
          SOF 11 May 2018 18: 54
          +1
          ... and she has nowhere to go, there is no landing gear for landing ....
          ... but seriously, it’s very interesting where it was “dropped” after the tests, given the natural destruction of the “unusual” engine ... bully
  13. bk316
    bk316 11 May 2018 11: 49
    +12
    Yes, it doesn’t matter straight-through-indirect-flow. For some reason, no one pays attention to the fact that he (the dagger) is ASYMMETRIC (in the sense of an answer to the modern AUG with powerful air defense). The creation of such weapons does not only do enormous damage to US plans, it raises the question of finding an asymmetric answer now from their side.
    Really:
    - a simple increase in air defense destroyers with the composition of the AUG will not bring anything;
    -creation of a hypersonic interceptor is a matter of a vague future;
    -economically, such weapons cannot be strangled (we’ll rivet them by the number of aircraft carriers)
    and most importantly
    -the repetition of the dagger (which the United States will do sooner or later) does not give anything, we simply do not have targets like aircraft carriers;

    I wrote a long time ago that the AUG strategy is very precarious, though I assumed that the answer would be a global comic target designation system + ICBMs with an unlimited lesion location. It is possible that this will be the second (though more expensive) stage, which will finally close the topic of AUG.
    1. SOF
      SOF 11 May 2018 18: 58
      0
      Quote: bk316
      finally closes the topic AUG

      ... finally, the theme of ACG can be closed only by global war, using apocalyptic weapons or the opposite "collapse" of all continents into one big, and before that, this topic will continue to bloom and smell .....
  14. Dead duck
    Dead duck 11 May 2018 11: 51
    +6
    No analogues. In the United States called the unique weapon of the Russian army

    Would not have been achieved before, would not have been this request
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 11 May 2018 15: 48
      0
      specially looked at the last 3 parades, the sickle and hammer on the victory banner was
  15. Pacifist
    Pacifist 11 May 2018 11: 54
    +11
    however, it “cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine”.

    Another substitution of concepts. Hypersonic is considered an object performing a long flight at speeds exceeding the speed threshold of 5 max. The dagger gives 10 at a range of 2000 km. There are no restrictions on the type of power plant. Yes, maybe they upgraded the Iskander rocket, and so what? Cheap and cheerful. What is called - wipe off. Then you can hysteria for as long as you like, it’s not interesting.
  16. HMR333
    HMR333 11 May 2018 12: 02
    +1
    It flies in excess of sound but it is not in excess of sound))) this is the author’s logic ingeniously this is in the form of reassurance or something! still interesting and the Iskander counterparts did!?
  17. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 11 May 2018 12: 03
    +3
    “It cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon because it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine.”

    And why exactly hypersonic ramjet? And what if a special ramjet engine? An object whose speed is at least 4500 km / h is already considered hypersonic. And what difference does it make in the end to Jamshud with which engine the “Dagger” flies at hypersonic speed. The main thing is, it flies and reaches the goal!
  18. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 11 May 2018 12: 12
    +3
    Note for Murzilka magazine. Russia is the birthplace of elephants. Dave Majumar is the brother of Evgeny Damantsev.
  19. Altona
    Altona 11 May 2018 12: 17
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    And again, this tabloid NI with its Majumdar ...

    -------------------------------
    The Pakistani burns as usual. I get the impression that he’s sitting at Rosoboronexport for bonuses and after each article he gets bobosiks as a fee for advertising Russian weapons. laughing laughing
    1. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 11 May 2018 13: 49
      +2
      He sits on Colombian cocaine ... How he smacks - all the erysipelas in powder and the floor of his jacket and is covered by his wave of analytical thoughts "How our ships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater ..."
  20. Berkut24
    Berkut24 11 May 2018 12: 26
    0
    No other country has a ballistic missile

    What viscous hangover did this rocket ballistic with?
  21. flicker
    flicker 11 May 2018 12: 36
    +3
    One thought runs through the red thread that the Dagger is the same Iskander, only air-based, i.e. an ordinary missile capable of maneuvering, but it cannot be called hypersonic.
    it “cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, since it is not equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine”.
    An interesting idea, but all naive for some reason believed that this is a hypersonic missile whose speed on the march reaches 5 max and more. But it turns out it doesn’t matter how fast it flies, most importantly, the presence of a "ramjet engine." And often (amateurs claim the Dagger is Iskander) add that any ballistic missile reaches a hypersound on the final trajectory. Reaches, then all the same, it reaches without “direct-flow, etc.”?
    Well, then, why whenever adding a dagger to add that it is an air-launched ballistic missile?
    Only in order to defeat the inner fear, the inner animal fear. As the presence of a hypersonic missile in Russia means a technological breakthrough, a technological breakthrough that does not just level American military superiority, but already points to Russian military superiority, which will make it possible to drive Anglo-Saxon financial permissiveness into the framework.
    As soon as the dollar loses its dominant position among all world currencies, then let's see how the geldings will catch up with us (and not only us) in creating a hyperweapon.
  22. sustav75
    sustav75 11 May 2018 13: 03
    0
    Mig-31 with this lonely super-missile, looks like a Japanese kamikaze plane of the Second World War. One way flight !?
    1. NN52
      NN52 11 May 2018 14: 07
      +3
      And who says that the Mig 31K without fighter escort will carry out a combat mission?
      And why is it close to the goal for him to launch?
  23. rruvim
    rruvim 11 May 2018 13: 05
    +1
    Independent Military Review No. 14 (interview with Boris Obnosov, General Director of the Rocket Tactical Arms Corporation):
    Corr: - The president said in his Address about the latest weapons ... But I would like to hear firsthand what exactly of these wonderful novelties the KRTV has a direct bearing on. In particular, about the dagger hypersonic missile system ...
    Boris Obnosov: - If firsthand, then we must listen to Vladimir Vladimirovich. I will perhaps refrain from commenting. ...
    Next:
    Boris Obnosov: - ...I think by the 2020s, the speed of 6-7 Mach for controlled continuous flights in the atmosphere can be achieved by practical examples.
    So who to believe? Foreman or specialist?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 May 2018 15: 04
      0
      Believe the creators of hypersonic passenger aircraft - “flights” on 7 Machs in wind tunnels confirm all the technical characteristics - a joint development of Russia, the EU and Australia.
  24. Zilibob
    Zilibob 11 May 2018 13: 07
    +2
    Quote: Egorovich
    The main thing is that the “Dagger” can be drowned by aircraft carriers and destroyers of Russia's main enemy, and the rest is all verbal fornication. am

    Was there a successful combat use? I’m also a master of sports in all sports BUT only in my apartment.
    1. bk316
      bk316 11 May 2018 14: 58
      +3
      was a successful combat use?

      Was there a successful combat use of at least one ICBM in the history of mankind?
      Or maybe the amers do not have any strategic nuclear forces?
    2. LMN
      LMN 11 May 2018 15: 44
      +3
      Quote: Ziliboba
      Quote: Egorovich
      The main thing is that the “Dagger” can be drowned by aircraft carriers and destroyers of Russia's main enemy, and the rest is all verbal fornication. am

      Was there a successful combat use? I’m also a master of sports in all sports BUT only in my apartment.

      “-Two Faustpatrons, I'm sorry, I didn’t check.” (C) (“Fascist”, film brother Brat-2)
  25. iouris
    iouris 11 May 2018 13: 28
    0
    That is yes. Supersonic aircraft carrier interceptor.
  26. Mentat
    Mentat 11 May 2018 15: 18
    +3
    Quote: rruvim
    Independent Military Review No. 14 (interview with Boris Obnosov, General Director of the Rocket Tactical Arms Corporation):
    Corr: - The president said in his Address about the latest weapons ... But I would like to hear firsthand what exactly of these wonderful novelties the KRTV has a direct bearing on. In particular, about the dagger hypersonic missile system ...
    Boris Obnosov: - If firsthand, then we must listen to Vladimir Vladimirovich. I will perhaps refrain from commenting. ...
    Next:
    Boris Obnosov: - ...I think by the 2020s, the speed of 6-7 Mach for controlled continuous flights in the atmosphere can be achieved by practical examples.
    So who to believe? Foreman or specialist?

    Do not believe d * beaters, misinterpreting the words of experts in their flawed bloschiki and wretched comments on the forums.

    Here is the actual text, quote:
    “If firsthand, then we must listen to Vladimir Vladimirovich. I will perhaps refrain from commenting. I can only say that under the said President of Russia there is a solid foundation. And no matter how someone wants to interpret the message as another intimidation or bluff, they are wrong. Behind the creation of such weapons is the purposeful work of huge collectives, including ours.
    “In 2016-2017, you said:“ I think that the beginning of the 2020s will be marked by an exit for Machs 6-7. ” Everything came out earlier and much more. Did you make a mistake in the forecast or hide a military secret?
    - I do not refuse my words. Different scientific and technical areas should be clearly divided. Speaking of Machs 6–7 (Mach 1 is approximately 300 m / s), I had in mind controlled hypersonic flight in the atmosphere. Any ballistic missile at the highest point of its trajectory reaches high hypersonic speeds.
    The speed of movement must be considered in relation to a particular hypersonic system. If we are talking about going to the upper atmosphere and reaching some maximum speed, this is one thing, but flying at an altitude of 30–40 km for half an hour is a completely different task and requires other solutions. I think that by the 2020s, the speed of Mach 6–7 for controlled long flights in the atmosphere can be achieved on practical samples. ”

    Why are semantic parts cut out in your message, which creates a distortion of the meaning of what was said? Is this what you were striving for? If not, choose sources of information more carefully, more carefully.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 11 May 2018 16: 19
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      Yes, all this is in No. 14 NVO. I emphasized (on the words of B.O.) on hypersound, as controlled in the atmosphere, and this is still the task. But the message sounded that it had already been resolved and was in service.
  27. Old26
    Old26 11 May 2018 16: 07
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    Quote: rruvim
    Independent Military Review No. 14 (interview with Boris Obnosov, General Director of the Rocket Tactical Arms Corporation):
    Corr: - The president said in his Address about the latest weapons ... But I would like to hear firsthand what exactly of these wonderful novelties the KRTV has a direct bearing on. In particular, about the dagger hypersonic missile system ...
    Boris Obnosov: - If firsthand, then we must listen to Vladimir Vladimirovich. I will perhaps refrain from commenting. ...
    Next:
    Boris Obnosov: - ...I think by the 2020s, the speed of 6-7 Mach for controlled continuous flights in the atmosphere can be achieved by practical examples.
    So who to believe? Foreman or specialist?

    I would still believe a specialist, not a team leader. For he is a professional and "responsible for the bazaar."
    And the foreman what they wrote, what they said - he voiced

    By the way, about six months to a year before these statements, he once said in an interview that we mastered speeds, including speed in 5M. Speeds from 6 to 10M - alas, not yet. We are working on this, but the process is quite lengthy and complicated. But within 3-5 years we hope to solve this problem ...

    Quote: Ziliboba
    Quote: Egorovich
    The main thing is that the “Dagger” can be drowned by aircraft carriers and destroyers of Russia's main enemy, and the rest is all verbal fornication. am

    Was there a successful combat use? I’m also a master of sports in all sports BUT only in my apartment.

    Of course no. That’s what we’re tracking each other’s tests. It is impossible to conceal a missile test at a range of 2000 km at such a speed. There we did not have time to test the "729 missile", as the Americans lifted high. And then there are such breakthrough trials and silence. Yes, and something was not heard that at least on some scam this complex was shot
  28. Vitauts
    Vitauts 11 May 2018 17: 13
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    tell me, please, how tokyi rockets get bored, they are witches with nuclear engines, where the little Cernobol will lie.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 11 May 2018 18: 23
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      Therefore, it is a doomsday weapon. Only Russia from this is not easier. "We’ll die, we’re supposed to, but we’ll" take you to the world of Americans "to the heap ..." To the delight of the Chinese and Congolese ...
    2. iouris
      iouris 11 May 2018 23: 31
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      Vytukas, you got it all wrong, these missiles are not nuclear, but hypersonic. But after their application, war will happen anyway and it will be nuclear and world-wide. It will be worse than Chernobyl.
  29. Vitauts
    Vitauts 11 May 2018 17: 17
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    one Voros, that with the crew of the aircraft, because the biological protection witches surely are not there
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 May 2018 23: 35
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      There is biological protection, and the radiation dose is monitored. Everything is as usual. In addition, the crew is given vodka and a snack.
  30. Peace Resident
    Peace Resident 11 May 2018 17: 51
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    "There are no analogues" somewhere we heard it
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 11 May 2018 18: 48
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      This is the "click" of the new deputy prime minister for defense. General Borisov to the journalist always answered: "There are no analogues to this weapon not only in Russia, but also abroad." laughing
  31. Seaflame
    Seaflame 11 May 2018 22: 11
    +1
    We are waiting for Zircons for a complete set (bloodthirsty rubbing handles) drinks
  32. Mentat
    Mentat 12 May 2018 00: 28
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    Quote: rruvim
    Yes, all this is in No. 14 NVO. I emphasized (on the words of B.O.) on hypersound, as controlled in the atmosphere, and this is still the task. But the message sounded that it had already been resolved and was in service.


    It didn’t sound. This is your mistake due to carelessness.
    Putin: “A missile flying at a hypersonic speed 10 times faster than the speed of sound also maneuvers in all parts of the flight.”
    You made the wrong conclusion that the rocket speed in all parts of the flight is the same and / or hypersonic, but if you carefully watched the accompanying video, such a conclusion would be doubtful.
    At the same time, you ignored the explanation of the specialist quoted by you, even cutting out portions of the text inconvenient for your incorrect output.
  33. Senior Lieutenant
    Senior Lieutenant 16 May 2018 22: 02
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    Quote: Hire
    What does the engine type have to do with it? Any object flying at a speed of more than 5Max is hypersonic, regardless of which engine “pushes” it.


    This is not enough. For. In order for an object to be called hypersonic, it must fly at a speed of more than 5M in the air, and not in near space.