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Striking the Golan will seem like a prank to Israel. Due retribution is already at the gate

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It is becoming increasingly obvious that the absolutely unpromising diplomatic fuss of the “contractors” to preserve the “nuclear deal” as the primary component of maintaining stability in the Asian region suffers a fiasco. As the events of recent days have shown, the powerful Israeli lobby in the State Department, the Senate, and the US Congress can, without any particular difficulty, reorient practically any foreign policy and operational-strategic levers used by the current administration of President Donald Trump and the White House to Tel Aviv. particular. One can trace this rather interesting intricacies on the example of Trump's unusually accelerated exit from the “nuclear deal” immediately after the visit of Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman to the United States for talks with his American counterpart James Mattis, as well as after unannounced closed consultations of the Commander-in-Chief of the US Special Forces 4 Star. US General of the Land Forces Joseph Votel with the head of the AOI General Staff, Colonel-General Gadi Aysenkot.

But if Lieberman's working visit to a meeting with "Reservoir Dog" (the army nickname for Mattis in the ILC), US National Security Adviser John Bolton, as well as Special Representative for the Middle East Settlement Jason Greenblatt, on April 26, can be considered quite an ordinary event that fits into the framework discussing the paramount points of American-Israeli military-technical cooperation and agreeing on a single action plan at the time of ignoring the position of the IAEA and the EU regarding the "nuclear deal", the unannounced meeting between Votel and Eisenkot has a much deeper meaning, foreshadowing the imminent start of escalation from the Israeli side. At the same time, the emphasis was placed not only on the standard air strike operation of tactical fighters F-16I "Sufa" and F-15I "Ra'am" on strategically important objects of the SAA using the planning UAB GBU-39 / B "SDB-I" and winged missiles "Delilah", but also for the ground phase of the operation, in which from the 20th of April it was planned to use armored and artillery troops, including the 7th tank brigade, the 282th artillery brigade "Utzbat Golan" and the 215th regiment "Utzbat Amud Hash." As you know, the latter are armed with tracked combat vehicles-launchers M270 227 mm multiple launch rocket systems MLRS and 155 mm self-propelled artillery systems M109A5.

Planning the use of the IDF jet and artillery against the strongholds of the Al-Quds units, as well as the Syrian Arab Republic air defense systems deployed south of Damascus, covering them south of Damascus, did not come as a surprise to us, since the Hotel and Eisencote who conducted the April 24 negotiations are generals- “ land satellite ", specializing in the coordination of high-intensity ground operations. For example, in the second year of the military career (in October 1980 of the year), Joseph Votel became the platoon commander of the 3 division of the US Army in Germany, and in January 2007 was already the chief of staff of the US armed forces in Afghanistan, at that time, having participated in the “Just Cause” operations (US invasion of Panama), “Iraqi Freedom”, etc. Gadi Aysenkot also began his service in the 82 year, in the 1978 Battalion of the 51 Infantry Brigade of the Golani, which he headed in the 1 year. As commander of a rifle company, he passed the “First Lebanese War” (1997), and after the “Second Lebanon War” he was appointed commander of the Northern Military District.

Our assumptions were confirmed in the evening of May 8, about a day before the massive exchange of missile attacks between the Israeli armed forces on the one hand, and also the Iranian units of al-Quds and the SAA in Damascus province on the other. News the block of the online combat map syria.liveuamap.com with a link to the Twitter page of the analyst @ michaelh992 provided us with information about the arrival of MLRS MLRS combat vehicles in the Golan Heights, which are armed with one of the above artillery units. Obviously, the 10 land-to-ground missiles mentioned in the media used by the Israeli army during the night strike on May 10 are precisely the 227 mm unguided missiles of the M26A1 / A2 family, or guided missiles of the M30 / XM G / type GUMLRS with a range of up to 70 and 95 km, respectively. As for the IDF barrel artillery, it was used to shell Syrian government forces in the front-line city of Khan Arnabah.


BM M270 MLRS, transferred to the Golan Heights on May 8


The Israeli side claims that the bombing and artillery attacks were carried out on positions of Iranian troops in response to earlier rocket attacks on Israeli strongholds in the Golan Heights. But if you delve into the situation, it becomes clear that a preemptive strike from the Iranian forces is 100% justified. Let's remember that countless number of massive missileaviation attacks by Hel Haavir on the SAA and Al-Quds and IRGC units, which were carried out starting on February 10, the day of the interception of the Israeli F-16I by the Syrian air defense forces. All of them remained unpunished, despite the fact that neither the government troops of the SAR, nor the Iranian units at all planned to attack the Golan Heights and other territories of the Jewish state; they were immersed in the task of cleaning up the terrorist "cauldrons" in Eastern Ghouta and Duma. But now the hour of harsh retribution has come. Moreover, both the United States and Israel signed up for such an excellent opportunity, planning an insidious action with the withdrawal from the nuclear agreement with Tehran to start a large Western Asian war.

Today’s strikes by the Israeli Air Force and artillery units on the front-line sections of the so-called “southern de-escalation zone”, as well as the transfer of mechanized IDF units to the Golan may indicate only one thing — an attempt to weaken the advanced parts of the regular Syrian army to support the 15 — 17 offensive thous. Free Syrian Army ", distributed in the directions of Chadera, Kafr Shams, Dar'a, Khalkhalakh air base and Essaouida. If these strikes are supported by new trains of Tomahawks by the AUG headed by the nuclear aircraft carrier Harry Truman, the likelihood scenario of the loss of all territories in the south-west of the republic, including the capital Damascus, increases significantly. To prevent such a development of events, there is already an urgent need to deploy C-300PMU-2 “Favorit” air defense systems in the 6 divisions, at a minimum. In the meantime, the Americans behave with restraint, and the Syrian air defense, replete with "armor" and "Bukami", independently copes with the reflection of the attacks of the EHF of the Israeli Air Force (at least with a factor around 0,5).

Meanwhile, the coming strikes of the Israeli Armed Forces can be even more powerful, with the prevailing use of MLRS multiple launch rocket systems, where the Buk-M2 and Cube SAM systems are unlikely to demonstrate proper effectiveness, and therefore it can be stated that it is necessary to deploy in the southern surroundings of Damascus even more "Armor-C1", capable of intercepting even 122-mm NURSy systems BM-21 "Grad". As for the joint Iranian-Syrian response to the regular aggression by the Israeli army, occasionally sending new launchers with operational-tactical BR "Fateh-110 / 316", as well as "Hatf-II" to the Syrian theater of operations, it is possible drawing Israel into a real war of attrition of high-precision arsenals weaponspresented by the inconspicuous UAB "Spice-250", "Small Diametr Bomb", KR "Delila", tactical missiles "Popeye-II", etc.

Naturally, all this will be possible only in the case of an exceptionally well-built, layered missile defense system based on the "Three Hundred" and "Armor". The next air operations Hel Haavir in the southern part of the airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic can be expected in the next few days, since during the day and evening of 10 in May west of the air borders of Lebanon, the Israeli G3 "Eitam" CAEW and one American RC-550V reconnoitered.

Information sources:
https://ria.ru/syria/20180510/1520249386.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/mlrs/mlrs.shtml
https://syria.liveuamap.com/
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  1. Azim77
    Azim77 11 May 2018 05: 14
    +35
    Very interesting - what is the long-term strategy of Israel. The country is geographically surrounded by Arab countries. Put aside that Arabs and Jews are essentially the same blood. Let us put aside religious moments, although Muslims recognize Moses as a prophet. How do they see their future in Israel? To fight all the time, until victory over all Arabs? Before the recognition of what? After all, they understand that it is impossible to always resist, to be at war all the time. Is this masochism? When they intend to try diplomacy, establishing neighborly relations. Let not friendly, but at least get along peacefully. What is in the way?
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 11 May 2018 05: 17
      +31
      Well, they consider themselves God's chosen people. Old Testament, however.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 May 2018 05: 41
        +24
        Damantsev, as usual, is a "discount", he is also an analyst ... but the situation is really alarming.
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            1. Shahno
              Shahno 11 May 2018 09: 14
              +3
              Yeah, I didn’t expect this from BIBI, I sold it ....
            2. Elena Khazova
              Elena Khazova 11 May 2018 12: 25
              +19
              Well of course we will "sit quietly and don't lean out"and we will not stop the Syrians from hammering the Jews into" holy "dust.
              As they have done the other day in the golan.
              The Jews are constantly in WORDS "love us." Well duck and we will also "love them" IN WORDS. What tady claims to us? Yes, no. Just “wait” until they turn themselves into sand there.
              We will wait without leaving either Syria or YOUR BASES there. There, even the police of public order - and that - are OUR. AND THEY ARE THERE.

              LEN
              1. Snakebyte
                Snakebyte 11 May 2018 12: 59
                +6
                Yeah, for 70 years, they've been hammering Jews into dust.
                Quote: Elena Khazova
                As they have done the other day in the golan.

                Set off produced. Of the 40 launches, 36 in its own territory.
                Quote: Elena Khazova
                Just “wait” until they turn themselves into sand there.

                Why not wait in your own country? For what are we suffering losses, in addition to protecting the interests of Gazprom? You can’t tell tales about the "fight against terrorists of an organization that cannot be called" tales. Just look at the famous maps of airstrikes, you can immediately see who is fighting with whom.
                1. amirbek
                  amirbek 12 May 2018 07: 14
                  +5
                  Quote: Snakebyte
                  in addition to protecting the interests of Gazprom

                  let your scientists finally assemble a gravitational or solar reactor or generator as it is called there ... so as not to burn gases ... or not profitable? smile
                  1. Snakebyte
                    Snakebyte 16 May 2018 07: 51
                    0
                    Of course, this is not as profitable as the industrial extraction of helium-3 on the Moon, which Roscosmos will start in two years, relying on the inhabited lunar base, which has been working for three years ...
                    What, no base on the moon? How so, because they swore and promised ...
                    1. YELLOWSTONE
                      YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 22: 17
                      0
                      Americans claim that using manual labor they collected more, but probably they have it, like titanium from some wrong ore lol
                  2. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 22: 16
                    0
                    there, 50 years ago, the lunar rover traveled, and sent back with lunar soil, probably already collected as much as necessary wink
                2. brick
                  brick 12 May 2018 10: 36
                  +4
                  And why don’t you dump home, and not Jewish under the Russian flag?
                3. Svidetel 45
                  Svidetel 45 13 May 2018 00: 18
                  +2
                  We bear losses there, so as not to bear losses in our territory, we do not have to pretend to be a three-year-old indiscretion.
                4. Serhiodjan
                  Serhiodjan 15 May 2018 19: 09
                  +1
                  Ahahaha, one can immediately see a worthy liberalist. And why, then, your beloved United States and to not topple from Syria? Let them go and then we will think. Well, about the IG ... oh my God, do you really think that your State Department training manual will be held here? Yes, we are fighting IS, we don’t sponsor them, but we have almost defeated them, though the so-called moderate ones have almost won. And how do you continue to bearded to sponsor that ki will do it
                5. RelictEmpire
                  RelictEmpire 16 May 2018 16: 15
                  +2
                  An amazing thing ... As far as the Golan is concerned, how territory is Jewish territory. And as the Syrians strike at the Golan, it’s “shooting at their own territory” ... the Hebrews ... they are so ... dodgy.
              2. 113262a
                113262a 11 May 2018 22: 45
                +1
                Israel’s Israeli intelligence minister Israel Katz welcomed reports that Russia does not have plans to transfer Syrian anti-aircraft missiles C-300 to Syria, calling it another manifestation of mutual respect and consideration of interests characteristic of Russian-Israeli relations.
                So he commented on the statement of the Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Kozhin that negotiations with the Syrians on this topic are not being conducted, thereby refuting earlier publications about the possibility of such supplies, RIA Novosti reports.
            3. seti
              seti 11 May 2018 13: 28
              +6
              Quote: Snakebyte
              Judging by the latest events, he “advised” Putin to sit quietly and not lean out, which he happily performed.


              Do you yourself believe in your nonsense? Just as long as the interests coincide and the strengthening of Iran’s position with Syria does not want Putin or Netanyahu.
              1. Snakebyte
                Snakebyte 11 May 2018 15: 15
                +14
                Do I believe that Putin has once again leaked an ally? Of course. In words, there is always full support, and as it comes to business, so "Russian interests are not affected."
                1. Svidetel 45
                  Svidetel 45 13 May 2018 00: 20
                  +1
                  And why be surprised, a striking example is Donetsk and Lugansk, so it’s not the first to betray.
              2. Serhiodjan
                Serhiodjan 15 May 2018 19: 14
                0
                Yes, he believes, but also believes that there is no Nazism in Ukraine, well, in general, you understand :)
        2. karish
          karish 11 May 2018 06: 11
          +18
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Damantsev, as usual, is a "discount", he is also an analyst ... but the situation is really alarming.

          Hi Andrew .
          Of course, you can read Damantsev’s, but trust belay
          His articles are like
          “Everyone says:“ Caruso! Caruso! " And I listened - so nothing special ”-“ Have you heard Caruso ?! ” - "No. Rabinovich sang to me "

          throws beautiful names, technical characteristics of some kind of tank - but in fact, that knowledge of the area, that of reality, that of the political situation - is complete zero.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 11 May 2018 06: 18
            +7
            Hi Sasha, yes ... such "analytes" unfortunately are a dime a dozen ... are you going to go on an excursion to the Golan now? wink hi
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 11 May 2018 08: 05
              +6
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              are you going to go on an excursion to the Golan now?

              Will leave the answer yes . I know him... wink
              Hello pension! drinks
              Hi Sasha! drinks
              1. karish
                karish 11 May 2018 09: 24
                +7
                Quote: wicked partisan
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                are you going to go on an excursion to the Golan now?

                Will leave the answer yes . I know him... wink
                Hello pension! drinks
                Hi Sasha! drinks

                Hi, in the Golan it was the day before yesterday ..
                everything is calm, we have one of the substations there.
                Food and the day after tomorrow.
                No travel restrictions have been reported.
                Yes, and why go here. from Haifa and a half hours.
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        3. lis-ik
          lis-ik 11 May 2018 12: 38
          +4
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Damantsev, as usual, is a "discount", he is also an analyst ... but the situation is really alarming.

          And it’s very hard to read, I can barely master his articles, and even then diagonally.
          1. Gennadz
            Gennadz 11 May 2018 20: 40
            +2
            Sergey, did you serve in the army? I wonder in what quality. Yes, and the rest. You that you think that your "deeply thinking" opinion and the appropriateness of using the country's Armed Forces (except for dozens of some modern units) is all that you know. Well guys you give. And in networks, to the point of absurdity. The cook cannot rule the state. TRUE! It is not necessary to put ourselves in the place of those whom we have chosen to solve state issues in any matters. Trust the professionals. Believe me, it will be right. Sincerely.
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 11 May 2018 20: 53
              +2
              Tell me please. and where did you see that I even wrote something about the appropriateness of the use of force? I just wrote that Damantsev’s articles are hard to read. And yes, I served in the army. still in the Soviet and even at YavVFU studied.
            2. NGK
              NGK 12 May 2018 13: 01
              0
              And whose, excuse me, children are now running our state? Are they not cooks? Yes, and there are plenty of cooks, and not the best. In my opinion, a professional cook will deal with finances in no way worse than Nabiullina! And where do you see in our government professionals - Mutko, Tkachev, Siluanov ... etc.?. Yes, the classic and theorist say that "the cook must understand in the management of the state," and not control that completely different things .
            3. farcop
              farcop 12 May 2018 14: 33
              0
              Quote: Gennadz
              The cook cannot rule the state.
              Why can't it? The result, of course, will be that, but it can be able to.
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        2. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 11 May 2018 10: 01
          +2
          Quote: karish
          Quote: bandabas
          Well, they consider themselves God's chosen people.

          So it’s written in the Bible, do you have a problem with this?
          We do not, but you? (the word "you" was written with a small letter, perceived as for all "us")
          Quote: bandabas
          Old Testament, however.

          God must be inside man, and the covenant is like a fairy tale. For young children it is interesting and informative, for adults it’s just a fairy tale.
          This is certainly not the Word of Igor's Regiment laughing
          But the same is nothing laughing

          Irony? Is it appropriate?
        3. Elena Khazova
          Elena Khazova 11 May 2018 12: 29
          +6
          Quote: karish
          This is certainly not the Word of Igor's Regiment


          do you have a problem with this?

          so - hutspa is bad for Health
          and this is not our problem

          LEN
        4. Ren
          Ren 11 May 2018 13: 00
          +12
          Quote: karish
          So it’s written in the Bible, do you have a problem with this?

          And in more detail, where exactly (place, publication) is it written? fool
          One person, too, wrote a book about the German God-chosen people, "Mein Kampf" is called - Remember how it ended?
        5. avt
          avt 11 May 2018 14: 44
          +2
          Quote: karish
          This is certainly not the Word of Igor's Regiment
          But the same is nothing

          Azochenway! Then the Veles book "
      3. Bad thing
        Bad thing 11 May 2018 12: 21
        +7
        They can consider themselves anyone, (some already in the last century wrote “Gott mit uns” on the buckles of their belts), but in fact that they will decide in the States, they will do it, otherwise they will lose financial and political support and will simply not be needed by the owner. They understand very well that, without external support, the Arabs will simply trample them with their bare feet, and therefore "try."
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 11 May 2018 12: 28
          +4
          Israel relies on all possible centers of power .... USA, India, Russia. And the fact that he succeeds is a merit of our Armed Forces and politicians. Actually this is "soft power".
          I think maybe just in this Netanyahu and Putin also got along ...
          1. Elena Khazova
            Elena Khazova 11 May 2018 12: 41
            +4
            well yes :) how "could" get along with the aching about the constant offense of tobacco - with the Bear
            we will not interfere with the Arabs to restore order in their home

            LEN
            1. Totah155
              Totah155 11 May 2018 12: 54
              0
              Quote: Elena Khazova
              we will not interfere with the Arabs to restore order in their home

              See that they do not recognize Russia as their home tongue
              1. VOLCHOXURAL
                VOLCHOXURAL 11 May 2018 14: 48
                +2
                Quote: Totah155
                Quote: Elena Khazova
                we will not interfere with the Arabs to restore order in their home

                See that they do not recognize Russia as their home tongue

                How is France ...? laughing Well, it’s unlikely! lol
                1. danan
                  danan 13 May 2018 09: 41
                  0
                  Dmitry, and I have already met frost-resistant Plastelins,
                  They even yearn for Russia laughing
                  1. VOLCHOXURAL
                    VOLCHOXURAL 13 May 2018 10: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: danan
                    Dmitry, and I have already met frost-resistant Plastelins,
                    They even yearn for Russia laughing

                    This does not mean at all that in Russia someone is longing for them. wink
                    Russia is not France or Israel, for example, there are many who in history have longed for both the Mongols and the same custodians and Poles and Swedes and the entire united German-Anglo-Saxon fascist west as a whole not so long ago, but we always know what it always ended for yearners Arabs, unlike you, do not pose any threat to us at all!
      4. Alber
        Alber 11 May 2018 23: 30
        +2
        Quote: bandabas
        Well, they consider themselves God's chosen people. Old Testament, however.

        How much evil they bring to the peoples around the world these "God-chosen" ...
      5. ver_
        ver_ 24 May 2018 06: 19
        0
        ... well so according to a proverb - you will not praise yourself - nobody will praise ..
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    3. karish
      karish 11 May 2018 06: 04
      +21
      Quote: Azim77
      Put aside that Arabs and Jews are essentially the same blood.

      it’s you and the Ukrainians of the same blood, but we never walked on the Arabian Peninsula.

      Quote: Azim77
      Put aside religious moments

      Seriously ? worth dropping?
      Quote: Azim77
      Let us put aside religious moments, although Muslims recognize Moses as a prophet

      so they recognize Jesus (ISU) as a prophet, which does not prevent them from cutting the throats of Christians

      Quote: Azim77
      How do they see their future in Israel?

      Great, I've been here only 25 years and every year the standard of living is growing.
      Quote: Azim77
      To fight all the time, until victory over all Arabs? Before the recognition of what?

      You are probably blind - look into the eyes.
      With Jordan and Egypt - a peace treaty.
      The Saudis are already almost openly talking about establishing relations, no more than yesterday
      МBahrain Foreign Minister Khaled bin Ahmed Al Khalifa joined in the expression of approval from European countries.

      “While Iran violates the status quo in the region and floods countries with its own forces and missiles, the right of each country in the region, including israel, protect yourself and destroy the sources of danger, ”he wrote on his Twitter account.



      Quote: Azim77
      When you intend to try diplomacy, establishing neighborly relations

      Diplomacy? Assad was offered dad peace, with the return of the Golan.
      I didn’t want to, there would be no more such handouts.
      They proposed peace to the Pleshes, left Gaza, offered 97% of the territory for 67 years, and the remaining 3% did not agree on the exchange of territories.
      No, you won’t get any more gifts.
      They all dreamed 70 years to throw us into the sea laughing
      Well, where are they now and where are we?
      From the point of view of everything - from the standard of living and medicine - to the power of the armed forces.
      Let them think - we have already proved our point.

      Quote: Azim77
      What prevents?

      What is in the way? Before you write such questions, a little history.
      What is stopping them? Envy is a terrible thing.
      1. Elena Khazova
        Elena Khazova 11 May 2018 12: 34
        +13
        I want to write: well, you scum, but after all, they’ll delete
        so I’ll just write: “holy” dust is getting closer and closer to you
        all Arabs are Semites
        you are Semitic dissidents, with problems with Co-Vest, like a virus
        where you come - everywhere - blood, death, lies
        one thing you wrote correctly - you didn’t even lie there

        LEN
        1. Totah155
          Totah155 11 May 2018 12: 57
          +2
          Quote: Elena Khazova
          I want to write: well, you scum, but after all, they’ll delete
          so I’ll just write: “holy” dust is getting closer and closer to you
          all Arabs are Semites
          you are Semitic dissidents, with problems with Co-Vest, like a virus
          where you come - everywhere - blood, death, lies
          one thing you wrote correctly - you didn’t even lie there

          LEN

          Lenka, do not skip school, otherwise they will put a deuce!
      2. Elena Khazova
        Elena Khazova 11 May 2018 12: 48
        +9
        in case a "supposedly offensive" comment is deleted, I will specify

        who you will not write in plain text
        just write: "holy" dust closer and closer to you
        all Arabs are Semites
        you are Semitic dissidents, with problems with Co-Vest, like a virus
        where you come - everywhere around you - blood, death, lies, and only you in the center of this chaos are “white, fluffy, in chocolate”
        one thing you wrote correctly - you didn’t even lie there, not like you didn’t walk

        LEN
        1. Leonardo da Vinci
          Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 09: 14
          0
          You are either completely unaware of the essence of the Arab-Israeli problems, and then you are ignorant, or you deliberately distort these problems purely out of hatred of the Jews and then you are a Nazi. By the way, Arabs hate Christians no less than Jews. Take an interest in what is happening even with Palestinian Christians. They remain less and less. They are fleeing from Palestinian Muslims. But in Israel they feel great. But you are not interested in the truth. You are saturated with hatred and spill it on those who have nothing to do with your problems.
      3. DENNIS
        DENNIS 11 May 2018 15: 53
        +4
        Jews will end up without a state, if at all.
        1. Leonardo da Vinci
          Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 09: 35
          +1
          The state of Israel is a successful, prosperous state. Jews in the shortest time, in just 70 years, built their country on a bare spot, among deserts and swamps, planted forests, irrigated fields, drained swamps. For 70 years, a huge avalanche of repatriation of Jews from all over the world was accepted and no one was left homeless. No one was left hungry. Israeli kibbutzim were much more successful than Soviet collective farms. Modern Israel has a good industry, highly productive agriculture, advanced science and a powerful army. Israel launches its own Earth satellites with its own launch vehicles. Israel occupies a leading position in the world in the desalination of sea water and its use for technical needs. In Israel, drip irrigation was invented, which was adopted by almost many countries of the world with an arid climate. Israel has great success in the field of electronics and all kinds of innovations. Israel has become one of the world's leading exporters of military equipment. And in the export of drones, Israel has first place in the world. Even America, in second place, is far behind in drones sales. The standard of living is growing. And this is in a hostile environment, which, with envy, cannot calmly watch how successfully the Jewish state develops. The Arabs would like to destroy him, but their hands are short. The Lord did not give horns to the cheerful cow. Israel won all the wars that hostile neighbors forced upon it. Israel is stronger today than ever before. And his economic prospects are very encouraging. Enormous gas deposits have been found off the coast of Israel that will meet all the country's needs and still remain for export. Universal gasification of the national economy will provide Israel with an even more efficient economy. Considerable oil fields have also been found, the industrial development of which has not yet begun. So Israel can look to the future with confidence. Don’t worry about him.
          1. RelictEmpire
            RelictEmpire 16 May 2018 16: 23
            0
            "On September 10, 1952, an agreement was signed under which Germany was to pay 3 billion marks in salable form to Israel over a period of 14 years. The funds were invested in fixed assets, playing an important role in the formation of the Israeli economy." - This is a fly in the ointment, so to speak, at whose expense the banquet was.
            1. Leonardo da Vinci
              Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 17: 16
              0
              No, this is not a fly in the ointment for many countries received foreign aid, but this did not help. It turned out that the horse wasn’t feed. In addition, perhaps, there was no other state, which from birth was in such an unfavorable situation. War followed war, and between wars terror and boycott. The neighboring Arab countries did not have such problems, but Israel coped with its problems, and the neighbors did not. Therefore, foreign aid only helped partially compensate for the difficulties, but only partially. As the saying goes: "It’s good to help someone who is helping himself." The Soviet Union, for example, also provided great economic assistance to Egypt. They built the Aswan Dam and Helwan Iron and Steel Works - these are only the most famous objects built thanks to Soviet assistance, and there were many of them. And where is Egypt now, and where is Israel? Egypt teeters on the brink of financial collapse. The population is in poverty. No comparison with Israel. Or militarily. Egypt and Syria were heavily armed with Soviet military equipment. Many of their officers were trained at Soviet military schools and academies. Many of their pilots completed internships in aviation regiments in the USSR .. On the ground, in their armies were a mass of Soviet military advisers. By the number of personnel and military equipment, the armies of Egypt and Syria far exceeded these figures in the Israeli army. However, the results of the wars are well known. The conclusion is that the matter is not only and not so much in help as in the social structure of society, creating more or less favorable conditions for the existence of this society and its ability to deal with difficulties, including external aggression. For example, many Soviet military advisers were very unpleasantly surprised by the ruthless attitude of Egyptian officers towards their soldiers and their indifferent attitude to military service in general .. This sharply contradicted the USSR concept of Egypt as a progressive state with a socialist orientation. But in "bourgeois" Israel there was an egalitarian (equal, democratic) society, in which there was much more socialism than in the supposedly "progressive" Egypt and Syria. In fact, the idea of ​​Egypt / Syria in the USSR was completely perverted propaganda and did not correspond to reality at all. In fact, the USSR’s attitude to these countries was determined not by reality, but by a crude geopolitical calculation, with a fair amount of state anti-Semitism. They looked primitively: there are many Arabs, few Jews. Arabs have a lot of oil, Israel does not have it at all. The absence of democracy in the Arab countries was closer to the Soviet system itself than the existence of democracy in Israel. Therefore, the conclusion is that we will be friends with the Arabs. And friendship with the Arabs implied hostility to Israel. And so it happened. Many Soviet political scientists claimed that this happened because Israel did not live up to Stalin's hopes. The facts indicate that in the early years of the existence of Israel, they treated the Soviet Union very well there and in many kibbutzim hung portraits of Stalin. However, this did not mean that Israel was ready to become a Soviet puppet. Yugoslavia also refused to become a Soviet puppet and the anger of Stalin also fell upon her. The Yugoslav Communists, led by the hero of the war of liberation against Nazi Germany, Irsip Broz Tito, were even called fascists and in the newspapers they painted terrible caricatures of them, accused them of all mortal sins. Later, a similar metamorphosis occurred in the Soviet attitude to China and Albania, although there was a slightly different wedding. But the general thing was that if you are an obedient puppet, then you are good, if not, you are very bad.
    4. Yak28
      Yak28 11 May 2018 06: 43
      +20
      Israel, as you have noticed, is surrounded by not very friendly Arab countries, Israel does not need peace, but rather harmful, because with the peaceful development of the scenario, Arab states can develop and arm themselves, which can subsequently threaten Israel, and for the time being in the Arab countries it’s a mess. thrown back in technological development decades ago, and such states are not threatened militarily by Israel. It remains to destabilize Iran and the Jews will sleep peacefully. That’s the logic of the Jewish state in my opinion.
      1. karish
        karish 11 May 2018 06: 53
        +8
        Quote: Yak28
        Israel does not need peace

        What about Egypt and Jordan?
        Quote: Yak28
        since with the peaceful development of the scenario, the Arab states can develop and arm themselves

        develop ? But how does Israel prevent them from doing this?
        And if the world, why arm?
        you’re saying it either - either remove the cross - or put on your underpants.
        Quote: Yak28
        in the meantime, in the Arab countries a mess. they are thrown back in technological development decades ago

        The mess in the Arab countries is the same because of us?
        In all 22's?
        Quote: Yak28
        It remains to destabilize Iran

        Is Iran the same Arab state?
        By the way, Iran is not a country in the Middle East, what is it doing here?

        Quote: Yak28
        That is the logic in my opinion of the Jewish state.

        Your logic - this is the lack thereof - to begin with, learn the materiel.
        1. Yak28
          Yak28 11 May 2018 07: 30
          +12
          Iran is not Arab. But also not friendly,
          And if the world, why arm?
          If you want peace to prepare for war, peace can be guaranteed only by a serious army. If Israel or even Russia had a weak army that was underdeveloped, do you think these countries would not be the target for aggression?
          The mess in the Arab countries is the same because of us?
          From a part, yes, and from the USA too. Yes, and they themselves are to blame for this too. Those countries that did not have time to bend under the USA and the new world order after the suicide of the USSR, doomed themselves to a gloomy future
          1. karish
            karish 11 May 2018 07: 39
            +5
            Quote: Yak28
            Those countries that did not have time to bend under the USA and the new world order after the suicide of the USSR, doomed themselves to a gloomy future

            the impression is that they had a happy past with the USSR
      2. Leonardo da Vinci
        Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 10: 00
        0
        What wild things you say. Not only does Israel absolutely not need destabilization in the Arab countries, so it would not be able to do it even with all its desire. In fact, Israel needs peace, it needs a quiet life, it needs trade with the same Arabs, but they, the Arabs, just threatened to destroy Israel throughout its history. Your head is clogged with malicious misinformation. You read the story. Only not of Soviet origin, where everything is perverted and put upside down.
        As for Iran, from there constantly there are threats to destroy Israel and even dates are set for it. Iran sponsors Hezbollah and Hamas on terror against Israel. Iran organized the bombings of the Israeli embassy and the local Jewish center in the capital of Argentina, Buenos Aires, and the Argentines issued warrants to Interpol for the arrest of several important Iranian dignitaries directly involved in these crimes, in which about 200 people were killed and many more were injured. Iran brought to Syria many long-range operational-tactical missiles. What for? They are not needed to fight ISIS and other rebels. But Israeli intelligence is working well and it has identified all of Iran’s missile depots in Syria, and during recent attacks, Israeli aviation destroyed them. After all, Russia was also very nervous about the fact that NATO began to create its military bases in the Baltic states and Poland. But for some reason you do not want to understand that Israel has exactly the same fears regarding Iranian bases in Syria. Moreover, NATO has never threatened the destruction of the Russian Federation. But the Iranian Fuhrer is constantly threatening to destroy Israel. But history has taught the Jews not to neglect the threats of their enemies, but to act against them. And Israel is very effective. Israel is indifferent to the fate of Assad, but he will not allow Iran to take root in Syria militarily. And Israel is strong enough to fulfill this need. Iran is a weakling against Israel, and even his pathetic reaction to Israel’s strike on Iran’s missile bases demonstrated this. But how threatened. A number of Iranian Fuhrer recently announced: "If the Zionists make the slightest mistake, we will burn Tel Aviv and Haifa." Yeah. Burned. Tightened tail and hid in a booth. Chatterbox hollows who constantly bluff, but in fact are not capable of anything serious.
    5. alexsipin
      alexsipin 11 May 2018 07: 32
      +14
      Quote: Azim77
      How do they see their future in Israel? To fight all the time, until victory over all Arabs?

      1. Peace is established with Sunni neighboring countries + Saudi will soon join.
      2. With the Palestinians:
      and. There is cooperation with Fatah and, apparently, in the near future he
      agrees to move to Abu Dis (a suburb of Jerusalem) and thus
      formally, Jerusalem will be recognized as the capital of the two countries.
      b. Hamas is locked in Gaza. He is guarded on one side by Israel, on the other
      Egypt. Hamas has very bad relations with Egypt. Apparently as soon as
      Fatah will finally agree with the plan for Jerusalem, Hamas will be removed from Gaza and
      this enclave will be presented to Fatah. Apparently this will be one of the candies that are being prepared
      for Fatah.
      3. Thus, the conflict with the Sunni Arabs (the main neighbors of Israel) has largely subsided, leaving only the Iranians and Alawites of Assad. They are not Arabs.
      4. Israel will not allow Iran to unfold in Syria from the word at all. He will regularly drive his positions into concrete dust until Iran runs out of money. Israel is separated from Iran by 2 states; there is absolutely nothing for it to do on the borders of Israel.
      5. Israel is not interested in the complete disappearance of Assad, the main task of Israel is to build Assad in a certain framework that is beneficial to Ishail.
      6. Regarding the Israeli military operations in Syria, Israel on the one hand and Syria with Iran on the other do not recognize each other's sovereignty and are at war. Each side for itself determines the best option for military operations against the enemy.
      1. Azim77
        Azim77 11 May 2018 09: 09
        +13
        Thank you, a practical answer.
        If Israel establishes peace with its neighbors, it means that the formation of a state has also occurred from a lone partisan shooting back all around, it has turned into a sovereign country. If international norms and rules were respected, then the political weight would have been even greater. The UN is certainly not the same, but the best as they say has not yet been invented. Although on BV you know better.
        The fact that the Arab countries cannot rally very much in the hands of Israel. Disagreements between Shiites and Sunnis are even greater, this is generally luck. This is where the game is being played. But on the other hand, it is on the verge of once international terrorism of such a scale as ISIS is attracted and supported against political opponents. If the Arabs cannot unite, then ISIS would probably be able, and just Israel would become a strong motive for this. Even if we assume that the top of ISIS is set up as it should (US ears), but the people in its ranks fanatically believe in “values ​​and goals” and subsequently removing the top and placing their caliph, ISIS could do a lot. After all, his ideas are not only geographical. Could they control the situation then, is the risk too great?
        Everyone has their own truth, Israel has the right to defend its state. Especially when there are threats. But you should not turn from a potential victim into a predator. The Russian Federation also has NATO on the border, but it does not bomb for every rustle of the Baltic states, Georgia, etc. Syria also has its own truth and Assad also has the right to protect life, power and the country. Offer your help to Israel, perhaps strengthening Iran would not be so?
        Although US interests in the East are already confused here ..
        1. SETTGF
          SETTGF 11 May 2018 16: 52
          0
          Azim77! Learn Russian Language and do not write nonsense. Truth is always one, as is truth! There is a different opinion and not only!
          1. ver_
            ver_ 13 May 2018 07: 07
            +2
            ..the truth is one, the truth - each has its own ..
        2. danan
          danan 13 May 2018 10: 24
          0
          Amir - my compatriot Alex did not mention a couple of points:
          First of all, a change in the self-consciousness of non-Jewish residents of Israel — more and more Arabs of Muslims — Izra citizens — are proud of their country, and are not ready to renounce their Izra citizenship in any case, up to the readiness of military service.
          the Arab inhabitants of Judea and Shomron are not much inferior to the inhabitants of Israel in terms of living, and sometimes ahead. Most of them value the opportunity to earn 2000 bucks a month at least two steps away from home. They are well aware of what is happening in the Arab world and compare their living conditions. with poor and powerless neighbors in Egypt and so on.
          As our wonderful Arabist Moti Kedar said live on al Jazeera:
          if Israel would open the borders, an Arab state would lose half of its population on the first day, they would all rush to Israel. And within 2000 hours received XNUMX calls to the studio. They agreed to move. smile Such we are "invaders" smile
          So we are optimists laughing
      2. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 11 May 2018 09: 20
        +10
        Quote: alexsipin
        Israel will not allow Iran to unfold in Syria from the word at all. He will regularly drive his positions into concrete dust until Iran runs out of money. Israel is separated from Iran by 2 states; there is absolutely nothing for it to do on the borders of Israel.


        That is, we should, according to your logic, drive into the dust everyone who is housed in the Baltic states and Poland?
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 11 May 2018 10: 16
          +3
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          That is, we should, according to your logic, drive into the dust everyone who is housed in the Baltic states and Poland?

          Quote: Azim77
          Thank you, a practical answer.
          The Russian Federation also has NATO on the border, but it does not bomb for every rustle of the Baltic states, Georgia, etc. Syria also has its own truth and Assad also has the right to protect life, power and the country. Offer your help to Israel, perhaps strengthening Iran would not be so?
          Although US interests in the East are already confused here ..

          Russia and NATO countries recognize each other’s mutual sovereignty?
          1. RelictEmpire
            RelictEmpire 16 May 2018 16: 26
            0
            Apparently, Israel also respects the sovereignty of neighboring countries. And therefore, "Regularly will drive its position into concrete dust"
    6. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 11 May 2018 09: 16
      +1
      Quote: Azim77
      After all, they understand that it is impossible to always resist, to be at war all the time.

      life is a confrontation. relax.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 11 May 2018 11: 25
        +4
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        life is a confrontation. relax.

        Immortal quote from the new Machiavelli. In the museum of sarcasm, it should hang in the place of honor, carved in marble with gilding.
        Thanks for having fun!
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 12 May 2018 07: 58
          0
          I don’t pull on the new Machiavelli, but thank you for the compliment.
    7. dSK
      dSK 11 May 2018 09: 19
      0
      Quote: Azim77
      Put aside that aslaves and Jews are essentially the same blood.
      Abraham, the founder of the Jewish people, originally from Babylon. But he had established the "right" relationship with the Lord God ("Genesis"). 2000 years ago, Jews "split up" - 12 ordinary fishermen led by Peter turned out to be wiser than the learned Pharisees and realized that Jesus Christ - the Son of God (Gospel). They became Apostles and “fermented” to Christianity third of the planet. And the descendants of the Pharisees who crucified Jesus Christ and today consider him a "heretic", who had to be executed.
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 11 May 2018 10: 28
        +2
        Quote: dsk
        Abraham, the father of the Jewish people, is from Babylon.


        Abraham left the city of Ur. (Ur Qassadim in Hebrew)
      2. alexsipin
        alexsipin 11 May 2018 10: 51
        0
        Quote: dsk
        Pharisees who crucified Jesus Christ

        Even according to your version of the story of Judea, it turns out that these were Sadducees (temple priests).
        1. dSK
          dSK 11 May 2018 15: 42
          0
          Quote: alexsipin
          Sadducees (temple priests).

          Sadducees - ancestors of modern atheists were not temple priests. Zadok as if I understood the teacher’s words in the sense that no reward expects a person beyond the grave and that, therefore, a person should only care about his earthly well-being, as they did Sadducees, who were all distinguished by their wealth and luxurious lifestyle. "Sadducees who say there is no resurrection" (Math 22: 23)
          Abraham, whose original name was Abram (אַבְרָם), was born in the Sumerian city of Ur (in the Bible “Ur Qasdim” - “Ur-Chaldean”), one of the oldest and most important cities of the southern Ancient Mesopotamia - one of the great civilizations of the Ancient World that existed in the Middle East (the main territory of modern Iraq and the north-eastern part of Syria), in the valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. Conditional chronological framework - from the middle of the 12th millennium BC. e. (Uruk era) on October 539, XNUMX BC. e. ("The fall of Babylon"). At different times, the kingdoms of Sumer, Akkad were located here, Babylonia and Assyria. (wikipedia).
        2. Hottabych
          Hottabych 11 May 2018 16: 02
          0
          Roman soldiers crucified according to the Bible. But they insisted on the crucifixion of the Pharisees, persuading and bribing the people of Jerusalem to shout: "Crucify him!" when the Roman governor Pilate asked a question in the square: "What do you want me to do with him?"
          1. zoolu350
            zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 10
            +1
            Technically, yes, the Romans crucified. But the whole situation, this is a special operation of the Zealot sect to remove the middle level of Varrava from under the blow of the Romans. The main executors of the special operation of the zealots were the pilots Peter and Judah, who were introduced into Yeshua’s inner circle.
      3. zoolu350
        zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 06
        +2
        You misunderstood the task of the 12 apostles. Their task was to force the gentiles to believe in Jewish Yahweh, he is the ancient Egyptian Aton. And they perfectly coped with this task, introducing an ideological veil in the form of a Jewish carpenter Yeshua who: "I did not change the Jewish law, but follow it."
      4. ver_
        ver_ 13 May 2018 07: 17
        0
        ... well, Duc - now these sons of God are a dime a dozen ..., in those distant times * Caesarean section * was extremely rare, but when it came to * the crown * - the issue was solved easily and simply ..
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 14 May 2018 07: 30
          0
          Come on. And in those days, Judea (and not only) was flooded with Messiahs, Mashiachs, and there were no counting direct and indirect sons and daughters of Ishtar, Seth, Zeus, Marduk, Mithra, etc. And the task of any ruler and governor was to figure out, in each case, whether he was dealing with an organization that had certain forces behind it or was it just a local holy fool. In this case, the zealots competently outplayed the procurator, although he sensed a “setup”.
    8. Arkady
      Arkady 11 May 2018 11: 06
      0
      The attitude of the Muslim countries disturbs. The existence of Israel is a violation of some fundamental Islamic laws.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 May 2018 11: 51
        +7
        Friends, see how active the information roll-out is going on from the Zionists and the citizens pretending to be them. Accusations of anti-Semitism will begin soon. But we do not offend the Jews. Moreover, we even protect. As always. But criminals who disguise their predatory plans under the aspirations of the Jewish people and cover them with the provisions of the Pentateuch, the Jewish people themselves will condemn
      2. ver_
        ver_ 13 May 2018 07: 20
        +1
        ..all laws and holy dogmas are written by people and there are always roundabouts ..
      3. ver_
        ver_ 17 May 2018 16: 20
        0
        ... that Islam itself arose in the 15th century ... and Jesus - Prince Andrei Bogolyubsky was born in 1152 ..
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 11 May 2018 12: 15
      +1
      In vain, Israel is looking for adventure on its ass. If a big mess begins, the Americans will definitely save. He does not quarrel with the Arab world at all. winked
    10. credo
      credo 11 May 2018 12: 19
      +3
      Quote: Azim77
      Very interesting - what is the long-term strategy of Israel. The country is geographically surrounded by Arab countries. Put aside that Arabs and Jews are essentially the same blood. Let us put aside religious moments, although Muslims recognize Moses as a prophet. How do they see their future in Israel? To fight all the time, until victory over all Arabs? Before the recognition of what? After all, they understand that it is impossible to always resist, to be at war all the time. Is this masochism? When they intend to try diplomacy, establishing neighborly relations. Let not friendly, but at least get along peacefully. What is in the way?

      You in vain think that Israel exists as a besieged fortress - this is not even mentioned. The extensive coastline of the Mediterranean Sea, direct flights to all parts of the world and most countries of the world, powerful support, including military, the USA and the world national diaspora, are not so small as to feel confident enough and not be afraid of neighbors. So it’s not as straightforward as sometimes it seems from the outside.
    11. Shaldag
      Shaldag 11 May 2018 15: 32
      +1
      So we live ... Israel has peace with Egypt and Jordan. The main desire .
    12. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 19: 28
      +2
      Azim. Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan, and nothing prevented Syria and Lebanon from getting off the path of war, especially since the prospect of defeating the Jewish state is far beyond reality. But sincere good-neighborliness makes it possible to get help for distressed countries, that is, to rise to the level of Israel, because he started from scratch, and even in a hostile environment, after four wars with the goal of destroying it and constant, atrocious terror.
      This is not masochism, but a compelled, protective stance to preserve its historical, national home. After all, Arabs are aliens in Palestine, and the sudden appearance of "Palestinians" is a clear fiction, of poor quality, made in the KGB. But the Arabs are trying to pass off their attempt to colonize, as a liberation movement - in order to rid Judah of the Jews. But this alogism is supported by the League of Arab States, otherwise, cooperation that would be useful for everyone would come here long ago.
    13. zenion
      zenion 11 May 2018 21: 12
      +2
      I really do not want the war to start.
    14. Qwe asd
      Qwe asd 11 May 2018 21: 29
      0
      Israel’s long-term strategy?) - This state has remained for several years, it has accomplished almost everything for which it was temporarily and artificially created ..
      1. NF68
        NF68 11 May 2018 21: 48
        0
        Quote: Qwe Asd
        Israel’s long-term strategy?) - This state has remained for several years, it has accomplished almost everything for which it was temporarily and artificially created ..


        Yeah. After a rain next Thursday, or Friday, Israel will cease to exist. If you only sign the relevant order, the irreversible process will be launched. Israel is a kind of bludgeon for local, with BV, barmaley. Without this, the entire BV could for a long time turn into the devil that why the whole of Eurasia would not seem enough.
    15. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 12 May 2018 02: 10
      +2
      Quote: Azim77
      Very interesting - what is the long-term strategy of Israel.

      Azim, with all due respect, are you really interested in some future, strategy, of this state? In general, I began to pay attention to them, the Israelis, since 2016, when I appeared on the site)))))) and that is because they pay special attention to them. Then it became uninteresting, the Jewish VO, not through their fault, ours cling to them just like that, argue. Let’s better discuss the BeniLux countries, they’re closer))) Leave them alone, let them burn themselves in that world. Undoubtedly, there are interests of the Russian Federation there, but there are pros who are engaged in geopolitics, let them decide what, when, to whom and how. That our military is there (Syria), so the work of us, the military, is such, because if, for example, the farmer stops plowing in the field, but he is "harvesting" in his office, it is not clear what will happen.
      What do you want to take here from the Jews, except for bragging? By the way, here someone wrote correctly, it was the losers (Jews) who left for the USSR from Israel. And I respect the native Israelis, they do not live in a simple place, but this is their choice.
      Right now I'm going to rafting, to the Amur Region, to the taiga, there are prospects !!!!!! Are you here about Israel))
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    17. yehat
      yehat 12 May 2018 11: 11
      +1
      The heyday of the Israeli economy is directly related to the oppression of neighbors.
      Remember what the economy was in the Gaza Strip before. She is destroyed.
      Remember what Syria used to be. Israel has inflicted more than two hundred air and artillery attacks on its territory over the past couple of years, including the capital, and not all of them have been provoked.
      You can argue for a long time that everyone is good, but the fact remains that the rise of Israel is directly related to how it spread rot to its neighbors.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 12 May 2018 11: 18
        0
        Quote: yehat
        Remember what used to be the economy in Gaza

        I can’t remember. Sclerosis. And what was she like?
        Quote: yehat
        She destroyed

        By whom?
        1. danan
          danan 13 May 2018 10: 58
          0
          Novel-
          Inexhaustible inventions of the Arabs! “Thanks to them” Israel is developing and gaining strength! Who remembers who started the terror in aviation? Who could have thought of the possibility of tunnel terror? Today, Israel has not voluntarily become a leader in countering this type of struggle. How did the Iron Dome come about?
          Right now they closed the transition point Keren Shalom, through the cat they supplied Gaza with food every day. Tireless gas men managed to burn the premises of work with kites by primitive air - I’ll go and catch a cold by saying. angry
      2. ver_
        ver_ 13 May 2018 07: 31
        0
        ... interesting - by the face of a person you can identify a Jew, who is an Arab ..?
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 13 May 2018 18: 40
          0
          Quote: ver_
          ..interesting - by the face of a person you can identify a Jew is this, who is an Arab ..?

          He who has lived in Israel for a long time is distinguished, but the scatter of phenotypies among Jews from different countries and among Arabs is large. Until you speak, you can make a mistake. There are Arabs who look like Europeans, especially Christian Arabs, descendants of the resettled Greeks.
    18. alex-sherbakov48
      alex-sherbakov48 15 May 2018 17: 55
      0
      History develops in a spiral. Once upon a time, the Israelis were already fleeing from those places, fleeing from the angry Arabs. Apparently even then the Jews greatly annoyed them. And now, when the Arabs cease to be at enmity with each other, then and only then will they take up the Jews again.
      1. singaporian
        singaporian 27 May 2018 00: 35
        +1
        Could you please be more specific when the Jews fled from the Arabs?
    19. zarechnyi sokol
      zarechnyi sokol 22 May 2018 11: 11
      +2
      the stubborn reluctance of the Arab morons surrounding Israel to recognize it as an independent state and the equally stubborn desire to exterminate all Jews! equipped with the latest weapons and latest technology!
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    21. gandy
      gandy 9 June 2018 16: 00
      0
      “When you intend to try diplomacy, establishing neighborly relations. Let not friendly, but at least get along peacefully. What is stopping you? "
      Answer. Attempts have been made more than once. "What is stopping you?" Are you serious? The stubborn desire of the fundamentalist Islamists to destroy Israel is in the way. Those countries that have realized that the well-being of their peoples is more important than bestial hatred: Jordan and Egypt, have made peace with Israel and are tackling their problems. And with those who do not understand this, they have to fight until they understand.
    22. gandy
      gandy 9 June 2018 16: 03
      0
      Attempts have been made more than once. "What is stopping you?" Are you serious? The stubborn desire of the fundamentalist Islamists to destroy Israel is in the way. Those countries that have realized that the well-being of their peoples is more important than bestial hatred: Jordan and Egypt, have made peace with Israel and are tackling their problems. And with those who do not understand this, they have to fight until they understand.
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  3. Vard
    Vard 11 May 2018 06: 08
    +8
    You can’t envy the State of Israel ... It lives in fear ... My friend returned ... So he says that he finally began to sleep peacefully ...
    1. karish
      karish 11 May 2018 06: 14
      +8
      Quote: Vard
      You will not envy the State of Israel ... It lives in fear ...

      Seriously ? belay
      Quote: Vard
      My friend came back ... So he says that he finally began to sleep peacefully ...

      laughing
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 11 May 2018 06: 55
        +9
        Quote: karish
        Seriously ?

        Seriously. Fear is generally a strong motivator for the consolidation of the people. There are more like Jews. They drove you into Israel with fear (will you find Ben Gurion's quotes yourself? wink ), with fear hold. You just got used to living like that. request
        1. karish
          karish 11 May 2018 07: 05
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Seriously. Fear is generally a strong motivator for the consolidation of the people.

          this is certainly true, but I will honestly say how generally a person regularly travels around the world and to Russia and Ukraine as well.
          I would say that you will have more fears than ours.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          There are more like Jews.

          oh well, that the people of our country does not run away and does not export capital.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          They drove you into Israel with fear (will you find Ben Gurion's quotes yourself?)

          Fear can drive out from somewhere, and not drive somewhere.
          Our borders are open - no one is holding anyone.


          Quote: Ingvar 72
          You just got used to living like that.

          Igor, we have a wonderful life, with a high standard of living and medicine.
          Unveiled on Wednesday, March 14, the World Happiness Report, which is the UN, for the second year in a row gives Israel a high place in the global ranking. According to a number of indicators, the Jewish state is ahead of many developed world powers.



          Finland is named the happiest country on the planet in 2018, Israel holds the 11th position in the list. The top ten included Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Sweden and Australia.



          The drafters of the rating note that not one of the largest economic powers was included in the top ten. The USA is in 18th place

          Germany - on the 15th, Great Britain - on the 19th, France - on the 23rd, Italy - on the 47th, and Japan - on the 54th.


          Closing the list is Syria - 150th place, Yemen - 152nd and Burundi - 156th. And Russia took only the 59th line of the list, lagging behind Latvia, Nicaragua and Uzbekistan. Ukraine is in 138th place after Sudan and Uganda, and Belarus is in 73rd after Honduras. Palestinian Authority - at 104th place.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 11 May 2018 07: 14
            +13
            Quote: karish
            I would say that you will have more fears than ours.

            They hold us with the same fear, they all scare us with instability. request
            Quote: karish
            that the people of our country do not run away and do not export capital.

            So your half-blooded ones are running! laughing The British even made a film about the Russian mafia, and show the Jews! wink
            Quote: karish
            Fear can drive out from somewhere, and not drive somewhere

            I repeat - read the statements of Ben-Gurion. Zionism was based not only on the idea of ​​a worldwide brotherhood of Jews, but also on fear.
            Quote: karish
            Igor, we have a wonderful life, with a high standard of living and medicine.

            Then why did many returnees return to Russia? Or having left for Israel, then left for the USA? wink No one disputes that Israel has a higher standard of living than Russia, but if you took all your compatriots from the government and the oligarchy of Russia. then life would be better with us. hi
            1. karish
              karish 11 May 2018 07: 25
              +5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              They hold us with the same fear, they all scare us with instability.

              What do you mean too? belay
              it kind of means that we are like you.
              Nobody holds us in fear.

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              So your half-blooded ones are running! The British even made a film about the Russian mafia, and show the Jews!

              but they flee from you, and not from us.
              Something I do not quite understand your morning logic.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              I repeat - read the statements of Ben-Gurion. Zionism was based not only on the idea of ​​a worldwide brotherhood of Jews, but also on fear.

              It’s strange that you know the quotes of Ben Gurion better than me. (to be honest, I don’t know them at all) so please provide a link to the source - I will read it with pleasure.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Then why did many returnees return to Russia?

              This is just like the question why many fled from Russia.
              A man is looking for a better place. For some reason, many were sure that there was a lafa - and here it was necessary to work.
              A conversation cannot go about individuals - a conversation can only go about one thing. How much has left - how much has left.
              If there are more visitors, that’s the whole answer.
              And over a million came to Israel from the USSR / Russia.
              How much is back? wink



              Quote: Ingvar 72
              No one disputes that Israel has a higher standard of living than Russia, but if you took all your compatriots from the government and the oligarchy of Russia. then life would be better with us.

              Yes . Yes, I heard that.
              You are poor and unhappy - Jews offend you. laughing
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 11 May 2018 07: 44
                +3
                Quote: karish
                I read with pleasure

                “If I knew that it was possible to save all Jewish children in Germany by moving them to England, or to save only half of them by moving them to Israel, I would choose the second option, since we should read not only the lives of children, but and the history of the people of Israel ”
                "If I had not only the will, but also the power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews anti-Semitic "I can guarantee that the results from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons."
                1. Vladimirovich_4
                  Vladimirovich_4 11 May 2018 07: 56
                  +2
                  A strong statement, I certainly won’t check it.
                2. dSK
                  dSK 11 May 2018 08: 34
                  +5
                  Quote: Ben Gurion
                  "If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and using the methods of gross anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews anti-Semitic slogans. I can vouch that the results in terms of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries would be ten times greater than the results that thousands of emissaries achieved by reading fruitless sermons. "
                  What Hitler began - the half-breed, squeezing out the young, combat-ready unit from Poland, the richest in Jews, into Palestine to liberate the "promised land."
                  1. alexsipin
                    alexsipin 11 May 2018 08: 51
                    +1
                    Quote: dsk
                    What Hitler began - half-breed,

                    Excuse me, which of Hitler's parents was a Jew?
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                    1. danan
                      danan 13 May 2018 11: 09
                      +1
                      Grisha Decent people hesitate to quote this sexual bankrupt am
              2. Dym71
                Dym71 11 May 2018 19: 45
                +1
                Quote: karish
                Man is looking for where is better.

                If a person works in Hevrat Hashmal, does not seek ...
                He found! wink
                Where did you stock up Alexander? Bored without you, now I looked at your profile - they banned me again! But what is that ?! crying
                - Moderators, free the shark from Haifa!
              3. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 12 May 2018 11: 20
                0
                Quote: karish
                Something I don’t quite understand your morning logic

                Raised, forgot to wake up ...
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 11 May 2018 09: 21
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Or having left for Israel, then left for the USA?

              Most of the losers came to Israel from emigrants and fell (as estimated in their own midst).
              Luck among them was considered to be in the United States.
              The bulk, for example, of my classmates lives there (and also Australia, New Zealand, England), and in Israel there are only two people. Jews in the class were percent 60%.
              Absolutely everyone emigrated.
          2. Moore
            Moore 11 May 2018 08: 08
            +6
            Quote: karish
            I would say that you will have more fears than ours.

            Can you list the main ones?
            Quote: karish
            oh well, that the people of our country does not run away and does not export capital.

            How many sausages from the republics of the USSR from conscription, Arabs and other delights in Canada and the United States fell, do not know?lol
            1. brigadir
              brigadir 11 May 2018 17: 55
              +1
              Our country is free. No one is holding anyone.
          3. SETTGF
            SETTGF 11 May 2018 17: 07
            0
            karish! How old are you?! Fear can drive out and also drive, while the border can be opened ... You do not have logic in expressions!
            1. SETTGF
              SETTGF 11 May 2018 17: 11
              0
              Sometimes “winged” phrases are as stupid as their authors!
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 11 May 2018 17: 22
              0
              Quote: SETTGF
              karish! How old are you?!

              Here’s one on the left, next to the black man, is he wassat
        2. Totah155
          Totah155 11 May 2018 13: 06
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Seriously. Fear is generally a strong motivator for the consolidation of the people. There are more like Jews. They drove you into Israel with fear (do you find Ben Gurion's quotes yourself?), They keep you in fear. You just got used to living like that.

          No, life is good.
          What you want. hi
          But my mother-in-law, who lives here, is afraid to live. Scared of her.
          True, I must say, she watches Russian television and the local Russian-language channel. wassat
          And this, as you know, does not contribute to digestion ...
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 11 May 2018 07: 46
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      You can’t envy the State of Israel ... It lives in fear ... My friend returned ... So he says that he finally began to sleep peacefully ...

      Just a coconut here is not good to get, and the one that is - very bodily))))
    3. Arkady
      Arkady 11 May 2018 11: 14
      +1
      I agree. Israel is a state of Jews who want their security in their hands.
      Today your friend sleeps calmly, because Putin is not anti-Semite. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow there will be the next president in Russia after Putin. And he decides to expel all Jews from Russia in order to please the anti-Semites (some on the Internet are waiting for this). And your friend will have to return to Israel. For such cases, Israel has been created.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 11 May 2018 15: 27
        +2
        ... I do not see any crime in the fact that the Jews will create their own mono-state where no one will periodically give them a Holocaust and they will not go into other people's * monasteries * with their own charter ...
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 23
          +2
          So they (the Jews) Stalin and Truman created a state so that they would not be holocaust, and instead of living in peace with their neighbors, they spread hatred and chaos around them, just asking for another holocaust.
          1. Leonardo da Vinci
            Leonardo da Vinci 17 May 2018 01: 02
            0
            Is that how you live with such wild ideas? Just sincerely sorry for you. In fact, the bandits do not live in Israel, but around Israel. So they then sow hatred and chaos around. You would have better studied history, and not only from anti-Semitic sources such as Soviet propaganda books, which have nothing to do with history ..
      2. Yak28
        Yak28 11 May 2018 20: 51
        0
        And if the next president after Putin wants to oust the Russians, then Israel is also just for that case laughing
      3. ver_
        ver_ 13 May 2018 07: 46
        0
        Moses brought them out of Egypt (Russia) in the 15th century ..., one hell - they returned ..
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 13 May 2018 18: 43
          +1
          Quote: ver_
          Moses brought them out of Egypt (Russia) in the 15th century ..., one hell - they returned ..

          In the 15th century, Russia was no longer there. There was Muscovy, the Novgorod state and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. So, be determined.
          1. ver_
            ver_ 14 May 2018 00: 22
            0
            ... Moses - Prince of Tver ..
    4. credo
      credo 11 May 2018 12: 40
      +5
      Quote: Vard
      You can’t envy the State of Israel ... It lives in fear ... My friend returned ... So he says that he finally began to sleep peacefully ...

      I don’t know how much time your acquaintance spent in Israel, but my acquaintance had just returned from Israel, having traveled along and across for three weeks and had not experienced any fear, and the Israelis didn’t surprise him with anything, in terms of fear for their lives. They live like everyone else - they sin, they pray, they hurt money, they seek profit, including and in the territory of the neighbors, they sin again and pray again, and so on. And you are talking about fear.
      1. Vard
        Vard 11 May 2018 13: 34
        +1
        A common phenomenon ... confuse tourism with emigration ...
    5. Shaldag
      Shaldag 11 May 2018 15: 34
      +2
      Chush, what fear? Before whom?
    6. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 19: 47
      +1
      Do not listen to talkers. When they fire at us, there is no panic, and moreover, the Israelis demand that the operation continue as long as necessary to completely destroy the terrorists. But, when it comes to the surrender of the enemy of Israel, the UN necessarily intervenes and demands a ceasefire, and the enemy gets the opportunity to restore their combat effectiveness, and attacks again. Here is such a stable hypocrisy, cynicism and meanness in the so-called "progressive humanity."
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 11 May 2018 22: 49
        +1
        You know, Polina, my younger Arabs are deeply indifferent to me and there are not a lot of such people in Russia, I think, we will support you, but take at least Chubais to begin with, well, there’s no strength to endure this NANOtolia, and there you look and we will comprehend Aliya of "brilliant personalities" from the Russian Federation to the Promised one in the glory of RETRIEVED! We would never have forgotten such goodness, I am sure many of us would have taken a denyuzhku so that you do not spend money. yes
        And there will be WORLD-LABOR-HISTADRUT in our relations!
        1. farcop
          farcop 12 May 2018 14: 50
          0
          Quote: Dym71
          we will support you, but take at least Chubais to begin with
          And you put him in a suitcase and at the station
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 12 May 2018 17: 15
            0
            Quote: farcop
            And you put him in a suitcase and at the station

            Please leave your Mossad stuff. In this situation, you need to think ahead, how do you imagine aliya suitcases? belay
            A problem! tongue
            1. farcop
              farcop 12 May 2018 18: 41
              0
              Quote: Dym71
              Quote: farcop
              And you put him in a suitcase and at the station

              Please leave your Mossad stuff. In this situation, you need to think ahead, how do you imagine aliya suitcases? belay
              A problem! tongue
              If the suitcase is not pigskin, then what is the problem?
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 12 May 2018 21: 45
                0
                Quote: farcop
                If the suitcase is not pigskin, then what is the problem?

                In the understanding of the word Aliya wassat
                1. farcop
                  farcop 12 May 2018 22: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Dym71
                  In the meaning of the word aliya
                  And in a suitcase, isn't that Aliya? I do not know for his ancestors, and whether he should, but the BBC and GDP could find a suitcase appropriate.
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 12 May 2018 22: 54
                    0
                    Quote: farcop
                    And in a suitcase, isn't that Aliya?

                    From Wiki: Aliyah (Hebrew עלייה, literally “ascent”, “ascent”, “elevation”)
                    this thing is voluntary, with the suitcases of the rest of the butler with the grefs scare!
                    Delicate need, with feeling, really, with the arrangement ... repeat
                    1. farcop
                      farcop 12 May 2018 22: 58
                      0
                      Quote: Dym71
                      Delicate need, with feeling, really, with the arrangement ...
                      And this is for you !!! Israel, for its part, will accept them, and explaining to them that the time has come or has come out is your prerogative.
                      1. Dym71
                        Dym71 13 May 2018 00: 24
                        0
                        Quote: farcop
                        and explain to them, they say the time has come

                        The time will come for them when they find themselves behind bars in Israel. yes
        2. Leonardo da Vinci
          Leonardo da Vinci 17 May 2018 01: 06
          0
          So you will address this question to Putin. He decides such things. By the way, why is he happy with Putin if he is so unbearable for all of you?
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 17 May 2018 01: 20
            0
            Quote: Leonardo da Vinci
            He decides such things.

            Yes? belay Do not take the trouble to give an example.
            Quote: Leonardo da Vinci
            By the way, why is he happy with Putin if he is so unbearable for all of you?

            And who knows, there are advisers for tonsils what
    7. gandy
      gandy 9 June 2018 16: 11
      0
      I’ve been sleeping quietly in Tel Aviv for 20 years. Although it would be better if all the neighbors agreed to peaceful coexistence, and did not set out to destroy Israel. Then, in Sderot and Ashdod, and in Gaza, they would sleep peacefully.
  4. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 11 May 2018 06: 50
    +3
    All actions of Israel will be good only until the moment when the Arab countries, taught by the war, take up arms against it. An army "trained" in parades is one thing, but an army taught by war looks very different.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 May 2018 06: 58
      +10
      Quote: zulusuluz
      Army trained in parades is one thing

      Israel has an army not only in parades. In terms of professionalism, this is one of the best armies in the world. Believe me as a staunch anti-Semite. hi
      1. karish
        karish 11 May 2018 06: 59
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Israel has an army not only in parades.

        We have no parades request
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 11 May 2018 07: 02
          +9
          What, never right?
      2. ver_
        ver_ 11 May 2018 10: 37
        0
        ... no words - just drooling .. and I'm all in grogg ...
      3. kventinasd
        kventinasd 11 May 2018 22: 16
        +4
        In terms of professionalism, this is one of the best armies in the world.

        An army that fought in local wars only with the Papuans cannot be one of the best in the world, in principle.
        In a big war, this army will be crushed like an ice rink together with the whole country in a couple of hours, even without nuclear weapons. So even if they don’t even raise their tail towards Russia.
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 11 May 2018 22: 38
          +2
          Quote: kventinasd
          in a big war, this army will be crushed like a rink together with the whole country in a couple of hours

          Well, I think a couple of days they will stand idle if they decide to die heroic)) a couple of hours if they give up they will start right away)
          and with steel I agree 100%
        2. zoolu350
          zoolu350 12 May 2018 16: 11
          0
          So Zionists (fascists) raise their tail on the Russian Federation, because the oligarchy of the Russian Federation allows them to.
        3. ver_
          ver_ 13 May 2018 08: 01
          0
          ... well, so why should they raise their tail - they have a second Motherland here: in the academies, and in the government, and in the State Duma, and in the ministries ..., and in business and in art and in the Jewish congress ..., in banks, only with a shovel and other tools - I have not seen - I will not lie ..
      4. zoolu350
        zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 27
        +1
        If you are anti-Semite, then you hate the Arabs (Semites) that there is a Nazi. And if you are an anti-Zionist (anti-fascist), then you are fighting against the hateful ideology of Zionism (fascism), which is very commendable.
      5. ver_
        ver_ 13 May 2018 09: 28
        0
        ... they just didn’t come across a building battalion ...
    2. andj61
      andj61 11 May 2018 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: zulusuluz
      All actions of Israel will be good only until the moment when the Arab countries, taught by the war, take up arms against it. An army "trained" in parades is one thing, but an army taught by war looks very different.

      So they were already in arms - and all these cases ended in a crushing defeat of the Arabs. And then the armed forces of Israel - relative to the Arab - were much weaker. All neighbors plus Iraq opposed Israel, and all Arab countries supported these neighbors. Israel is now at war with Syria and Lebanon. Is that Syria and Lebanon ganging up on Israel? This is not even funny!
      Israel, flattering its own idiosyncrasy against Iran, repeatedly attacked Iranian, pro-Iranian forces, as well as the forces of the SAA, although they did not threaten Israel. Finally achieved their goal - strikes on the Golan were inflicted. The answer was not long in coming. Now Iran and Syria will answer again. The escalation of the confrontation is growing.
      1. zulusuluz
        zulusuluz 11 May 2018 18: 31
        0
        And then the armed forces of Israel - relative to the Arab - were much weaker.
        This is when the Arabs knew how to fight? If only with the advent of Russian expert advisers in Syria now they began to win? Only now the Syrians and Iranians are slowly, but confidently, learning to fight.
        And simple training at the academy is, of course, good ... Only there, no soldiers are trained there.
    3. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 11 May 2018 08: 58
      +1
      It happened more than once, the result is always the same. Well, of course you can try again .... laughing
    4. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 20: 35
      +3
      Do not even dream! The victories of Israel are the result of mentality. We do not set a goal in the war - the destruction or expulsion of the aggressor people from their native land, and the Arabs come to us in our national house to destroy everyone, and knowing this, our soldier stands to the last bullet, because there is nowhere to retreat, because behind the most sacred thing for him is his native home, family, parents, friends and homeland.
      And the enemy soldiers, what kind of soul? In the name of what is it worth sacrificing life? For the sake of breaking into a strange house, raping, robbing, shooting women, old people, children, just because they are a different nation or religion?
      There were three wars that the Arabs started, and entered the combined army of five or more Arab countries, and all ended in complete defeat, even when they were armed and trained by the USSR.
      And if the Jews are driven into a hopeless impasse and forced to use argument number one, then after it - only ash will remain from them. By the way, Israel has missiles capable of putting satellites into orbit, but just as well, they can deliver warheads to anywhere in the world, so to speak, on a return visit.
      1. asv363
        asv363 12 May 2018 04: 05
        +2
        And if the Jews are driven into a hopeless impasse and forced to use argument number one, then after it - only ash will remain from them. By the way, Israel has rockets capable of launching satellites into orbit, but just as well, they can deliver warheads to anywhere in the world, so to speak, on a return visit.

        Polina, to be honest, I’m a little uncomfortable, after all, you are a woman. I will ask two questions:
        1. Exactly anywhere in the world?
        2. What weight?
        T.N. "Jericho-3" with 350-360 kg per 11 km - this is tactical nuclear weapons (tactical nuclear weapons).
        1. real israeli
          real israeli 12 May 2018 08: 19
          +2
          "1. Exactly anywhere in the world?
          2. What weight?
          T.N. "Jericho-3" with 350-360 kg per 11 km - this is tactical nuclear weapons (tactical nuclear weapons). "
          I answer as a man to a man!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeIsuC17wAY


          "The mass of the combat load depends on the range: normal - 750 kg (with this mass of the warhead can be delivered at a distance of 2 thousand km to 11 km), but can reach up to 500 ton and even 1 tons; with the mass of a nuclear warhead 1,3 kg, this missile can hit targets at a distance of more than 350 11 km (however, according to an official report that was submitted to the US Congress in 500, the possibility of launching a missile at a distance of 2004 11 km with a mass of military equipment of 500 ton was indicated).

          A missile can carry up to three separable individually guided nuclear warheads. Radar-guided warheads.

          Although the missile is designed to be based in underground mines, it can also be installed on mobile platforms, including railway ones.

          High speed makes the rocket virtually invulnerable to interception.
          Thus, Jericho-3 is capable of delivering a nuclear strike on the territory of Russia, Iran, Pakistan, China, North Korea, Europe, etc. "

          Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B
          8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BD-3
      2. zoolu350
        zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 31
        +1
        You can only launch Yerichona from one place (Palmachim), which can be reset to zero on asphalt with 2 fingers.
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 12 May 2018 09: 46
          0
          Quote: zoolu350
          You can only launch Yerichona from one place (Palmachim), which can be reset to zero on asphalt with 2 fingers.

          You have clearly confused the different types of missiles and their launch sites.
          1. zoolu350
            zoolu350 12 May 2018 16: 09
            0
            Well, tell the "truth" about the "great power" of Israel.
            1. alexsipin
              alexsipin 12 May 2018 18: 03
              +2
              Quote: zoolu350
              Well, tell the "truth" about the "great power" of Israel.

              Not earlier than you post similar information about the missile positions of Russia.
              1. zoolu350
                zoolu350 13 May 2018 01: 53
                0
                The usual cheap Zionist (fascist) hoop. Not surprised.
                1. alexsipin
                  alexsipin 13 May 2018 18: 49
                  0
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  The usual cheap Zionist (fascist) hoop. Not surprised.


                  I’m ready for everything - robbery and violence, -
                  And I beat the Jews - and save Russia!
                  Vysotsky 1964
    5. gandy
      gandy 9 June 2018 16: 14
      0
      Or until all Arab countries realize that peace is better than war.
  5. Lelik.
    Lelik. 11 May 2018 06: 56
    +5
    The analyst, like many of his colleagues, either forgot or miss another player on this mournful theater of operations China, some time ago when the Americans warmed up the conflict in the Persian Gulf, a senior army official threatened the United States with a war, and in the transition to the hot phase, China was dependent on Iranian oil and therefore, any conflict with Iran from the Israeli-American coalition strikes in its interests, both in terms of resources and the preparation of a bridgehead in the future, which could become a support in the war against it.
    1. dSK
      dSK 11 May 2018 08: 41
      +2
      Quote: Lelik.
      China is dependent on Iranian oil

      The cost of oil under $ 80, accelerated by the Middle East conflict, is completely useless for China.
      1. Lelik.
        Lelik. 11 May 2018 09: 23
        +1
        Why, not what, it's chattering chatter, you can't go without a gasoline
  6. Lyapis
    Lyapis 11 May 2018 07: 03
    +7
    Due retaliation is already at the gates

    What a loud headline, but at the same time absolutely not relevant to reality.
    Israel, as he did what he wanted in Syria, will continue to do this, and neither the Syrians nor the Iranians will be able to do anything about it. They do not have such forces, and skills, too. Likewise, ours will not do anything about it, because quarreling with the Jews is fraught with painfully serious guys (publishing a video with the destruction of the Shell is a very fat hint that we are not an authority for them, and if something happens in the place of the Syrian machine turn out to be Russian.) Our military department can only twirl around, saying that this does not concern us, they warned us, etc. etc.
    And this, in general, is correct, but it just puts us not in the best light.
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 11 May 2018 08: 13
      +11
      Quote: Lyapis
      Our military department can only twirl around, saying that this does not concern us, they warned us, etc. etc.

      No need to offend your own generals by comparing them with a snake. For the first time, Russia is pursuing a very correct policy, keeping a perfect balance - maintaining its own interests and not substituting its own military personnel. Why would your soldiers die for the ideological ambitions of Iranian Shiism? Between Israel and Iran 2 state. There is absolutely nothing to do it with the Sun on the borders of Israel.
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 11 May 2018 09: 02
        0
        This is just a metaphor, not an insult. I just wanted to say that the situation is extremely complex and slippery. And, personally, I do not see a good way out of it for either side. request
      2. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 11 May 2018 09: 15
        +3
        That's it! There are many supporters of fraternization with the Arabs, and now with the Persians. But they forget or do not want to take into account why our military in Syria. They are there to destroy the terrorists and end the chain of color revolutions. And not in order to stand on the side of Iran whose ideological and political interests are contrary to the existence of Israel. If we talk about Iran as an ally of Russia, then as about situational. Moreover, the situational in capital letters, and the ally in small letters as in the footnote of the loan agreement. Therefore, our military only monitors the launches, flights and attacks of Israel on objects in Syria.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 11 May 2018 13: 07
          +2
          Quote: Servisinzhener
          They are there to destroy the terrorists and end the chain of color revolutions.

          The fight against terrorism is just a public pretext for a presence in Syria, including for the Russian Federation, there are no high goals there, the country is interfered with land just for the benefit of resource-producing corporations.
          1. brigadir
            brigadir 11 May 2018 17: 58
            +2
            Absolutely right. I propose to name the operation: "Battle for the pipe"
        2. zoolu350
          zoolu350 12 May 2018 08: 36
          +1
          Have you forgotten who prepares, trains, equips and supplies these terrorists? The owners of the Fed, the Zionists (fascists) of Israel, the Saudis and the undersultan of Turkey. Therefore, while the SAR has not been defeated by these parties, there can be no talk of victory over the "terrorists."
      3. Fedoslov
        Fedoslov 11 May 2018 12: 21
        +4
        What is the right policy? To get into the war in Syria without clear goals, having a weak economy, a pile of the most difficult problems in the post-Soviet space - is this the right policy?
        Well, nothing, there was one such hero - Nikolai l. He tried to trample against England and France, having a heap of internal problems - he received the Crimean War and a shameful defeat. He died later, covering himself with an overcoat, and his descendants raked up his omissions.
      4. sa-ag
        sa-ag 11 May 2018 13: 09
        +2
        Quote: alexsipin
        Why would your soldiers die for the ideological ambitions of Iranian Shiism?

        The same thing, there is no ideological confrontation there, or it exists, but it has nothing to do with gas transit, just a tool for brain processing.
      5. Yeah
        Yeah 11 May 2018 22: 33
        0
        Do not tell me what Netanyahu Putin could offer (May 9) for this very “right policy”?
    2. credo
      credo 11 May 2018 13: 36
      0
      Quote: Lyapis
      Due retaliation is already at the gates

      What a loud headline, but at the same time absolutely not relevant to reality.
      Israel, as he did what he wanted in Syria, will continue to do this, and neither the Syrians nor the Iranians will be able to do anything about it. They do not have such forces, and skills, too. Likewise, ours will not do anything about it, because quarreling with the Jews is fraught with painfully serious guys (publishing a video with the destruction of the Shell is a very fat hint that we are not an authority for them, and if something happens in the place of the Syrian machine turn out to be Russian.) Our military department can only twirl around, saying that this does not concern us, they warned us, etc. etc.
      And this, in general, is correct, but it just puts us not in the best light.

      It’s interesting, but what did you see there on the blurry frames that you so confidently blaspheme Russian weapons?
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 11 May 2018 13: 59
        0
        Indicate the place in the text where I abuse the Russian weapons.
        1. credo
          credo 11 May 2018 15: 12
          0
          Quote: Lyapis
          Indicate the place in the text where I abuse the Russian weapons.

          Sad mistake. Instead, the word "weapon" should read "military department."
          1. Lyapis
            Lyapis 12 May 2018 08: 17
            0
            OK. I change the request-indicate the place in the text where I vilify the Russian military.
    3. shahor
      shahor 11 May 2018 17: 23
      +1
      Quote: Lyapis
      And this, in general, is correct, but it just puts us not in the best light.


      Well why. Officially, we entered Syria to fight the barmales (banned in the Russian Federation). The rest does not concern us - solve your problems yourself. The approach is wise.
      Regarding the Shell, by the time of the destruction he was already firing and stood empty. Hit or not, it’s the tenth thing, but that’s why they didn’t deliver ammunition to him (and to go for 500 meters himself wasn’t high)? They themselves decided that there was a smoke break? And agreed with the IDF ?. From a military point of view, the IDF carried out a worthy operation — reconnaissance of targets, assessment, decision-making — clear execution. According to the textbook and the experience paid for in blood. While the Shell was shooting, the drone flew nearby and bent its fingers, counting the rest of the cartridges in the drum. The cartridges ran out, well, and now ... The only thing that the IDF could blame was not given to finish the Syrian boys before their death ...
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 11 May 2018 17: 41
        +1
        How did they manage to spend 12 zur uselessly? Why put on a UAV from anti-aircraft guns when they are at a range of 4 km, I can’t imagine ....
    4. aquatic
      aquatic 11 May 2018 22: 56
      +1
      Israel, as he did what he wanted in Syria, will continue to do this, and neither the Syrians nor the Iranians will be able to do anything about it.


      Israel would like something like this

      or such

      and believe me, if ISIS had won in Syria it would have been) ISIS would have been immediately defeated by the Turks from the south by the Jews) only now all their Wishlist are limited to rocket bullets at the limit of the range on rusty troughs. Great Israel rested in the Bose.

      The Syrians admitted that it was THEY who hit the Dutch; not Iran, but the Syrian army). That's just Israel continues to scream that it was Iran)) why? funny

      before starting to clean ISIS near Abu Kemal, the Syrians for some reason bombed off at certain intelligence centers) they say the Americans began to die. Before starting to clean ISIS, they transported the golan bombed by certain intelligence centers)) so that their ears and eyes on someone else’s territory were not dismissed.
      Soon ISIS will die in the south) it is interesting when he retreats under the protection of his artillery to the Dutch heights occupied by Israel, the IDF will shoot at him?))) Or he says "they are dead") and the Syrian army is sure to beat the terrorists in the gollans if they retreat there )
      retribution is inevitable)
      1. alexsipin
        alexsipin 12 May 2018 09: 56
        +2
        Quote: aquatic
        Israel would like something like this

        What for? In theory, we can actually capture the half-middle east. But for what? Why should we feed 100 million Arabs living in poverty? Our economy is not built on oil, but on high-tech technologies. We have enough territories that we have now - 60% of the Negev is empty. Master millions more square kilometers of deserts with a hostile population? See what you need. We have gas, there are minerals from the Dead Sea. The standard of living is higher than that of many countries in Europe. Who needs huge empires with a half-poor population now? It is better to have a small country with a high standard of living.
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 12 May 2018 14: 11
          +2
          will you return the gollans? why do you need them? your economy is not built on them) its territory is enough for you, why do you need the Syrian))))? you will have a small country with a high standard of living) no one ever minds - return what is not yours, demolished houses of the Palestinians, etc. etc.

          or now say "well, this is a completely different matter"))) everything is very different here))) another situation))
          1. alexsipin
            alexsipin 12 May 2018 17: 55
            +2
            Quote: aquatic
            will you return the gollans? why do you need them? your economy is not built on them) its territory is enough for you, why do you need the Syrian))))? you will have a small country with a high standard of living) no one ever minds - return what is not yours, demolished houses of the Palestinians, etc. etc.

            If Israel had normal neighbors, then the Golan would never have become Israeli. There would simply be no war. Read how many times the Syrians fired on the entire north of Israel during the period 48-67. Where are the guarantees that having received the Golan, the next Syrian leader will not start shelling Israel again? In 2000, there was a conversation about the Golan with Hafez Assad, but he refused to combine the conversation about peace and the return of the Golan.
            As for compensation to the Palestinians, this issue should be combined with compensation to Jewish refugees from Arab countries.
            1. aquatic
              aquatic 12 May 2018 19: 01
              +1
              but what about your words)) why do we need Syrian land?))) we jump from the topic, right? for some reason I'm not surprised)
              1. alexsipin
                alexsipin 13 May 2018 19: 00
                0
                Quote: aquatic
                but what about your words)) why do we need Syrian land?))) we jump from the topic, right? for some reason I'm not surprised)

                The Golan is a strategic point for peace in northern Israel. Even having conquered it, Israel is clearly far from the "Great Israel", which according to your version includes neighboring states.
                1. aquatic
                  aquatic 14 May 2018 20: 38
                  0
                  Well, it would be Great Israel would say that you have strategic points in Iraq) in Egypt) in Damascus)) problems)) you will not rust, we know))

                  Forget there will not be any Great Israel, and you will return the Golan) the clock is ticking

                  for me a person who at the same time says two completely opposite things does not cause a desire to argue, is it worth arguing? if so and so I’m chatting) wherever I want to go there) there are no principles, so let's close the topic)



                  Quote: alexsipin
                  Why? ... Nafig need !!



                  Quote: alexsipin
                  The Golan is a strategic point for peace in northern Israel.
    5. ver_
      ver_ 13 May 2018 08: 08
      0
      ... when I read it - the Nazis * dragged dogs * to the smell of the Jews - is it true, no?
  7. Indifferent
    Indifferent 11 May 2018 08: 52
    +1
    I read today that no S-300 Syria will be delivered! It seems that such a decision has matured after visiting the Nityanahu Victory Parade in Moscow. Given the composition of our new government and the decision on the S-300, we can assume that in the West, especially in the United States, they shout Hurray! Therefore, the author’s hopes are ghostly, like morning fog.
    1. aquatic
      aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 11
      0
      Quote: indifferent
      I read today that no S-300 Syria will be delivered! It seems that such a decision has matured after visiting the Nityanahu Victory Parade in Moscow.

      there is a war) no one during the war will not announce their plans for the whole world) and even more so to tell the enemy where and what it costs) in Syria ALREADY stand the S-300 if needed, when the time comes they are used for their intended purpose.
      On May 9, the Security Council of the Russian Federation discussed Israeli attacks on Syria) and on the same night the Syrian army cleaned up that it should not stand on the gollans) well, this is of course an accident)))
  8. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 11 May 2018 09: 01
    +2
    Well, that’s it! All Israel rose to defend the right to aggression! It seems that they did not sleep all night (apparently, they sat in the trenches, reflecting the attacks of the terrorists, which they themselves gave birth to mattresses), had breakfast with stained sandwiches, washed down with cold tea! Karish generally went to tamat, proving his God-chosen! And most importantly, purely in the Jewish style, for each word - 7 of its own. It would be better if I spent my strength, with the same zeal, in the struggle to strengthen peace in the region — there would be more benefit! Apparently, it is naive to believe that in the boiling sea of ​​fire of the Middle East large-scale war (if they succeed in unleashing it with mattresses!), Will they be able to defend their islet in Israel? Very naive, or very crafty! But the fact that a lot of Jews are returning to the Russian Federation, if not those who left in the past, then their children! And yet, many live well! And looking at some who have become patriots of Russia, you begin to doubt the veracity of Karisha's comments!
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 11 May 2018 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: sib.ataman
      tamat

      What is it?
    2. borberd
      borberd 11 May 2018 09: 27
      +3
      There is no Iran on the Israeli border - there is no aggression. What is incomprehensible in this?
      1. SETTGF
        SETTGF 11 May 2018 17: 17
        +1
        borberd! And who endowed you with such a right ?! There is no Israel on the Syrian border - not aggression, but there is no Israel ...
      2. borberd
        borberd 16 May 2018 07: 06
        -1
        We have endowed ourselves with such a right - we live here, and it was not we who came to the borders of Iran, but he came to ours. And we will protect them. And then don’t cry.
    3. Arkady
      Arkady 11 May 2018 11: 18
      +2
      I wrote above. Some return. No one will be busy: forever or until the next president.
      1. Totah155
        Totah155 11 May 2018 13: 21
        +1
        Quote: Arkady
        Some return. No one will be busy: forever or until the next president.

        As a rule, losers and lazy people who do not want to assimilate come back.
    4. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 21: 06
      0
      Chatterbox! Name at least a dozen of the many young Jews who returned to the Russian Federation, those who grew up in Israel and speak Hebrew, or English. In addition, after school they must serve in the army and then graduate, as is customary in Jewish families. And after university, if he does not find a job in Israel, he will obviously leave for the USA, where you can always meet a fellow tribesman or go to the nearest synagogue, if he did not have the necessary address in his pocket from his house.
  9. Shahno
    Shahno 11 May 2018 09: 18
    +1
    There are some oddities in the article. Effective Air Defense-50 percent? wassat
    Iranian BRs are already partly in Syria, that is, not entirely, they say there something banged recently ....
  10. Opera
    Opera 11 May 2018 09: 20
    +1
    Quote: karish
    Quote: bandabas
    Well, they consider themselves God's chosen people.
    So it’s written in the Bible, do you have a problem with this?

    With this, no one should have problems including and the Jews themselves! The Bible has words that can be interpreted completely in the opposite direction. The very name Israel means the God of God. Do you know that? God knew how many labors it would cost him to lead this people! “I knew that you would act treacherously, therefore from the womb (creation) you were called an apostate” (Is. 4868) and even “this is an evil society” (Num. 14627) Moreover, God wanted to destroy this people twice (by the way, this people so often stated in the Scriptures), but Moses did not let this come true. But what is really said about the chosen people: “If you obey My voice and keep my covenant, you will be my inheritance from all peoples for my whole land ...” God's chosen ones are those who observe His instructions and do works of mercy! God says, "My people are Israel." But God says, “My people are blessed with the Egyptians and the work of My hands the Assyrians” So, dear, read the Holy Scriptures and you really will not have problems for yourself, including pride!
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 11 May 2018 09: 39
      +4
      Quote: Oper
      With this, no one should have problems including and the Jews themselves! The Bible has words that can be interpreted completely in the opposite direction. The very name Israel means the God of God. Do you know that? God knew how many labors it would cost him to lead this people! “I knew that you would act treacherously, therefore from the womb (creation) you were called an apostate” (Is. 4868) and even “this is an evil society” (Num. 14627) Moreover, God wanted to destroy this people twice (by the way, this people so often stated in the Scriptures), but Moses did not let this come true. But what is really said about the chosen people: “If you obey My voice and keep my covenant, you will be my inheritance from all peoples for my whole land ...” God's chosen ones are those who observe His instructions and do works of mercy! God says, "My people are Israel." But God says, “My people are blessed with the Egyptians and the work of My hands the Assyrians” So, dear, read the Holy Scriptures and you really will not have problems for yourself, including pride!

      There is no point in leading theological disputes:
      1. This is a military site, not a religious one.
      2. The Jews do not recognize either your religion or your religious interpretation of the events in Judea 2000 years ago, nor your church books, nor your interpretations.
      3. Your words are simply not authoritative for us and, from our point of view, serve solely to create a confrontation between religions.
      1. Opera
        Opera 11 May 2018 09: 57
        +1
        Regarding point 3 - similarly! Regarding paragraph 1 I agree, explain this to your fellow countrymen as well! Regarding point 2, there is nothing to comment at all!
        1. Polina Dymerets
          Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 21: 46
          0
          Why quote and attach importance to the records of ancient people with a completely different worldview than our contemporaries. They just needed to explain to themselves why they had come to this world and why they were leaving, turning to dust. The origin of nature, the change of seasons, the behavior of animals and people - all this required substantiation. And the simplest thing is to refer to the Creator - omnipotent, just, all-knowing. But if without his desire, even a leaf on a tree does not move. This means that the massacre in Syria - EMU for something is needed. For otherwise, thunder would have struck, and lightning would have struck all sinners ...
      2. aquatic
        aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 18
        0
        Quote: alexsipin
        Your words are simply not authoritative for us and, from our point of view, serve solely to create a confrontation between religions.

        it is you (not you personally, namely the Jews present on the site) who constantly poke "we gave birth to your dog," we are "chosen by God", "read the Bible," "ask the priest"))))

        how to poke “your god” in “God's chosen way” and immediately say “your words are not authoritative for us” and “it makes no sense to engage in theological disputes”.

        how is it in "God's choice" we can tell you for your religion and you do not go into ours)))
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 23: 25
          +2
          Colleagues, I, of course, understand that Friday and evening ... but pearls like
          Quote: aquatic
          we gave birth to your mastiff

          I am personally plunged into wild rzhaku request
          1. aquatic
            aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 37
            0
            Friday mood))) yes it is))
        2. alexsipin
          alexsipin 12 May 2018 10: 23
          +1
          Quote: aquatic
          we gave birth to your dog

          What do you have against dogs? Or do you call the inhabitants of Dagestan?
  11. solovald
    solovald 11 May 2018 09: 38
    +1
    in the southern vicinity of Damascus, it is necessary to deploy even more "Shell-C1"

    If the shells will be used by the Syrians as well as the one that was "easily and naturally" destroyed when his calculation arranged a smoke break, then there will not be much benefit from them, but there will be only one image damage to Russian weapons.
    1. aquatic
      aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 21
      0
      well, a great victory) they destroyed a shell that wasn’t working) maybe they smoked, maybe it was broken, in war as in war) one huh? and the one that didn't work huh?))))
  12. Imobile
    Imobile 11 May 2018 09: 54
    +10
    An article from a parallel world, but in a real one, meanwhile:
    1.Israeli missiles did not notice
    2. The air defense was not on duty (the Israelis were to blame, they did not warn)
    3 air defense stood in an open area, without camouflage and entrenchment.
    4. The video from the missiles was transmitted, so there was no interference — either they were insignificant (the video is the only thing that can drown out the electronic warfare)
    5. No interaction after the first strike, no warning to others about the first strike.
    6. The radar parts of the complexes stand together with the control units, and a natural hit on the radar destroys the entire complex.
    It is impossible to supply C300-C400 there will certainly be a video of destruction - this will be a failure for export.
    1. CYM
      CYM 11 May 2018 13: 55
      +1
      Quote: Imobile
      It is impossible to supply C300-C400 there will certainly be a video of destruction - this will be a failure for export.
      It depends on how you apply them. If they are set as targets, then the video of destruction will surely be. And if you start to shoot down Israeli Air Force planes on take-off from airfields? winked But this is a purely political issue. Russia is exporting weapons, not the personnel serving it, which the video with the destruction of the Shell clearly demonstrates. But it’s definitely not worth giving Sy300 to Syrians, it’s easier to immediately dispose of it. sad
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 11 May 2018 14: 03
        0
        There are heights as far as I know. But suppose you are a general, and you see on the radars take-offs every 15 minutes of objects. When do you start shooting?
        1. CYM
          CYM 11 May 2018 21: 14
          0
          IMHO Already if you shoot then to the complete destruction of the Israeli Air Force on its territory. But this, without the use of nuclear weapons, is beyond the power of even Russia. Everything else is a drag on the agony of Syrian air defense. sad
        2. aquatic
          aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 25
          0
          [quote] From what moment do you start shooting? / quote]

          wars do not win by shooting missiles, they will start shooting at everything that will take off before and during the offensive, for example, the combined arms army)
          for example, when ISIL was “urinated”, the retreating to the gallans and during the retreat, he crushed the Israeli contingent who was there and heroically resisted.
      2. shahor
        shahor 11 May 2018 17: 35
        +1
        Quote: CYM
        And if you start to shoot down Israeli Air Force planes on take-off from airfields?

        Do not forget, Israel has Arrow-2 and -3 systems.
        The survey locator of the latter sees 2500 km, the range of defeat of interceptors allows you to shoot down on takeoff targets in Syria. It comes to what am I?
        1. CYM
          CYM 11 May 2018 19: 59
          0
          Yes, I know, I know. In addition, Israel has at least 300 attack aircraft, where will Syria get so many missiles? Even if we assume that all the Israeli Air Force planes miraculously shot down. According to some reports, the doctrine of the use (absent from Israel) of nuclear weapons, considers the destruction of the Israeli air force as an unconditional basis for a nuclear strike on the enemy. As they say for what they fought, they ran into something. sad
      3. Polina Dymerets
        Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 21: 54
        +1
        "And if you start to shoot down Israeli Air Force planes on take-off from airfields?"
        Interesting idea! And where will they return ?!
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 30
          0
          Quote: Polina Dymerets
          "An interesting thought! And where will they return ?!


          Well, you’re not fair)))) it’s also not fair)) you can only bombard the airdromes of God)) and the Syrians should only bring down planes that flew into Syria)))
          this option is not even in the plans, I'm sure))) they avoided it by saying that "if we do not have airplanes we will use nuclear weapons" which we really don’t have but you believe it)))
    2. aquatic
      aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 20
      0
      Quote: Imobile
      It is impossible to supply C300-C400 there will certainly be a video of destruction - this will be a failure for export.

      S-300 ALREADY stand in Syria, is there a video of destruction?
    3. real israeli
      real israeli 12 May 2018 09: 23
      +1
      "It is impossible to supply C300- C400 there will be a video of destruction - it will be a failure for export"

      No need to argue with an intelligent person, just say: "YOU ARE RIGHT"
  13. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 10: 03
    +2
    Quote: Azim77
    Very interesting - what is the long-term strategy of Israel. The country is geographically surrounded by Arab countries. Put aside that Arabs and Jews are essentially the same blood. Let us put aside religious moments, although Muslims recognize Moses as a prophet. How do they see their future in Israel? To fight all the time, until victory over all Arabs? Before the recognition of what? After all, they understand that it is impossible to always resist, to be at war all the time. Is this masochism? When they intend to try diplomacy, establishing neighborly relations. Let not friendly, but at least get along peacefully. What is in the way?

    - interfere religious Islamic postulates, requiring at all costs to return under the rule of Islam the territory to which this power once spread.
    Therefore, all the nonsense repeated a million times by ignoramuses who do not know this postulate - they simply do not make sense.

    Well, it would seem: what is the matter of Iran to Israel, the two closest points between them are separated by hundreds of kilometers! An - no, sir ...
    Therefore, the "proposals" to the Jews of Israel "to agree" with Iran and a number of Islamic states and organizations "LET LIVE IN PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP" - are no different from the proposal, for example, to the Jews of Germany in the late 30s to come to terms with Hitler.

    The point is not Israel’s reluctance to agree, the whole thing is on the opposite side.
    1. Arkady
      Arkady 11 May 2018 11: 22
      +3
      Add: If Iran succeeds in destroying Israel, then Russia will be the next target. Part of its territory was formerly Muslim. Even today, Muslims live under the rule of non-Muslims in Russia. Unacceptable for Muslims.
      1. asv363
        asv363 12 May 2018 04: 56
        +2
        If Iran succeeds in destroying Israel, then Russia will be the next target.

        IRI is our equal partner, including a peaceful atom. S-300 they have long been delivered, according to the contract.

        Why should the next goal be the Russian Federation?
  14. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 10: 12
    +1
    Quote: Vard
    You can’t envy the State of Israel ... It lives in fear ... My friend returned ... So he says that he finally began to sleep peacefully ...

    - "Coward does not play hockey!" lol
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 12 May 2018 01: 15
      +1
      Quote: Outsider
      "Coward does not play hockey!"

      Damn it, automatically a logical question arose on the topic. laughing They didn’t have to search for a long time - they still play. wassat
  15. alexsipin
    alexsipin 11 May 2018 10: 44
    0
    Quote: Oper
    Regarding point 2, there is nothing to comment at all!

    On that and finish.
    1. Opera
      Opera 11 May 2018 11: 44
      +2
      I wanted to talk - write in a personal! Regarding what you acknowledge and what doesn’t matter, I don’t care!
  16. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 11 May 2018 11: 54
    +4
    We need to take an example from Israel using proactive tactics. Long-range air defense systems or MLRS dragged to the Crimea, the next day there were charred skeletons. The shell hit our territory, from the battery that only the ashes released it. Wanted to capture the oil platform or the fishermen, there was only an oil stain on the water. They decided to buy "Javelins", a rocket flew into the warehouse with them. There is no need to wait until it arrives at 4 a.m. on June 22, 41, you have to beat ahead of the curve and so that there is no desire to twitch once again.
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 11 May 2018 12: 21
      +4
      This is a fine line - where self-defense ends and aggression begins. If some gopnik attacked you, and you kicked his brains out of him, this is an excess of the proportionality of self-defense. And such a case is examined and decided in court. Otherwise, there will be the Wild West. In the political environment, there is also such a court and international law. The whole point of the matter is that some countries, including Israel, often put this right from a high bell tower. And this is a bad precedent. The right of the strong it is - today you are strong, tomorrow another. And on the planet there is already nuclear weapons and without a civilized discussion, conflict resolution, without a single international law for all, one day may come last.
      1. Bad thing
        Bad thing 11 May 2018 12: 54
        +1
        Explanatory post. The only one in the whole forum.
      2. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 11 May 2018 14: 32
        +1
        International law is only a modification of the law of the strong, nothing more. When it became clear that the CCCP could not be defeated without unacceptable losses, it was created to resolve controversial issues and split the spheres of influence. Now, when the United States "tears its head" from its own power, then international law has become a formality, because You can’t act according to rules that the other side ignores. And no international courts will help here. At least in the Hague, at least in Strasbourg. They perfectly showed their impartiality. So later on in its present form, the right of the strong did not go away, it only took slightly different forms. Nuclear weapons are one of these forms. And perfectly helping civilized discussion and conflict resolution. An example of this is North Korea and Iraq.
      3. shahor
        shahor 11 May 2018 17: 42
        +2
        Quote: Azim77
        The whole point of the matter is that some countries, including Israel, often put this right from a high bell tower.


        And in what way did Israel violate international law? We have already written in the comments that back in the 70s, Israel offered Pope Assad to return the Golan and sign a peace treaty. Dad said no. Those. Israel and Syria have been at war for many years. So will we fight, or what? Get ....
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 11 May 2018 23: 34
          +1
          And in what way did Israel violate international law?


          You name the UN resolutions that are international law to which Israel puts from a large bell tower?)) Are you really not in the subject?
          1. Servisinzhener
            Servisinzhener 12 May 2018 17: 47
            0
            If they jeopardize the existence of the state, then they do it right.
            1. aquatic
              aquatic 12 May 2018 19: 05
              +1
              while the fact remains) Israel laid down on international law) maybe it is bad, maybe not, international law is now something else) but the fact remains
          2. farcop
            farcop 12 May 2018 23: 10
            +2
            Quote: aquatic
            Name the numbers of UN resolutions
            They are advisory. Didn't you know? Why are you climbing then?
            1. aquatic
              aquatic 19 May 2018 11: 31
              0
              Quote: farcop
              They are advisory.

              and international law is all advisory until it comes to wars) and you did not know? why climb then?))))
  17. Tektor
    Tektor 11 May 2018 12: 44
    +1
    KMK, the Syrians would now be very much helped by the S-350 with a missile range of at least 135 km, which is more than the range of planning bombs of small diameter, such as the GBU-39 with a launch range of up to 110 km. And this will not allow the use of this ammunition with impunity. Only target designation and order are needed. It is clear that the complex that has not yet been adopted for service is not entirely correct, but I would like to verify it in practice.
    1. shahor
      shahor 11 May 2018 17: 46
      +2
      Quote: Tektor
      but I would like to verify it in business.


      If you really want to check, go yourself and see what else angry Jews will get you from a long distance. Believe me, they will get it.
  18. CYM
    CYM 11 May 2018 13: 29
    0
    there is the possibility of drawing Israel into a real war of attrition

    Apparently, Iran is seeking this, to lure the Israeli troops into the territory of Syria / Lebanon and drag them into a long counter-guerrilla war.
    1. farcop
      farcop 12 May 2018 23: 12
      +4
      Quote: CYM
      Apparently, Iran is seeking this, to lure the Israeli troops into the territory of Syria / Lebanon and drag them into a long counter-guerrilla war.
      And then wait for the frost.
  19. Old26
    Old26 11 May 2018 13: 36
    +1
    Quote: Elena Khazova
    we will not interfere with the Arabs to restore order in their home

    If we do not interfere with restoring order in their own home, restraining them, then they will see that some Arab countries, such as Syria, may cease to exist as a single state
    At least history shows that for 70 years they have not been able to restore any sort of order. The wars they waged with Israel ended usually not in their favor.
    So it’s better to stop them from putting things in order.

    Quote: Yak28
    It remains to destabilize Iran and the Jews will sleep peacefully. This is the logic of the Jewish state in my opinion.

    In fact, before the clergy came to power in Iran, relations between Shah Iran and Israel were quite normal. Now the issue with Iran is primarily destabilizing the US president. And if under a contract, even if not the best, Israel could have had a meal of 10-15 years of quiet life, now Iran has become a priority threat for it. Structures supported by Iran, such as Hizbola and Hamas, are one thing, and nuclear weapons in the near future for a country that regularly promises to erase Israel from the world’s map are quite another matter.
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 11 May 2018 15: 12
      +7
      Quote: Old26
      In fact, before the clergy came to power in Iran, relations between Shah Iran and Israel were quite normal.

      You could even say that they were beautiful. Therefore, today's conflict is not a conflict of peoples: Jews and Persians have lived side by side for many thousands of years and are quite respectful to each other. This is not a religious conflict, since neighboring Shiite Azerbaijan has excellent relations with Israel. This is an ideological conflict when the mullahs of Iran, hiding behind religion, try to export their so-called "revolution." They need Israel as a factor of the enemy, consolidating the whole society.
  20. SHAH
    SHAH 11 May 2018 14: 25
    0
    [b] [/ b] With modern weapons endless wars do not happen and suppress the development of science and technology among neighbors
    constantly (Iraq, Syria, etc.) Israel will not succeed. Imagine that Muslims discard divisions into Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Wahhabis, etc. A stable peace and the reputation of a peaceful nation are beneficial for Jews. Not always
    The United States and other Western countries will expose their ass because of the Jews.
    1. brigadir
      brigadir 11 May 2018 18: 06
      +1
      [/ quote] [quote = SHAH] [b] [/ b] With modern weapons there are no endless wars and suppress the development of science and technology among neighbors
      constantly (Iraq, Syria, etc.) Israel will not succeed. Imagine that Muslims discard divisions into Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Wahhabis, etc. A stable peace and the reputation of a peaceful nation are beneficial for Jews. Not always
      The United States and other Western countries will expose their ass because of the Jews.

      This will never happen. Muslims will be at enmity. They are even at the family / hamul level all the time ...
  21. kimvladimiril
    kimvladimiril 11 May 2018 15: 02
    +1
    The Golan Heights is already the territory of Israel ...
  22. Tomato
    Tomato 11 May 2018 15: 58
    +1
    There is a famous freak from the economy; for 15 years now, he has been burying the western economy in his “Adventurer”. What to take from such? Pitiful, despicable city crazy.
    Friends, but the color of world journalism has gathered on this reputable resource, world-famous political scientists, with the reading of our comments, world leaders begin the day.
    So.
    May 9 Israeli Premier in Moscow. All day, they, together with Putin, head the Immortal Regiment, smile, shake hands, radiate complete understanding.
    We all understand that there are no accidents in the diplomatic protocol. Each gesture is a message to someone you need.
    The next day, Israel grinds Iranian facilities. Not a serious reaction of Russia.
    Is something else incomprehensible?
    Oceania no longer fight with Ostasia. Now the enemy is Eurasia.
    Even Putin understood how he screwed up (in general, as always). On the Russian border, Iran is trying to recreate the empire. Aggressive, passionate state, with a very young population that will soon receive nuclear weapons. In addition, Iran brazenly takes over Syria. Even Putin is tired of playing the role of a useful idiot for Iran. Who is more dangerous for Russia; Israel or Iran?
    Putin gave Israel full carte blanche. All Iran is not a friend.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 16: 07
      +1
      Quote: Tomatoes
      Iran is not a friend

      Was there a friend? When, and in what way was it expressed? Remind me to be beavers.
      Senior, damn it, sailor laughing
      Yes ... You all forget to answer - how are you, in the small town of Ventspils, about the rake? Still walking? wink
    2. ver_
      ver_ 14 May 2018 10: 09
      +1
      ... Iran has never been a friend to us .., his dreams are a caliphate to our northern seas ..- we are not satisfied ...
  23. dojjdik
    dojjdik 11 May 2018 16: 16
    0
    Syrian air defense is normal, otherwise Assad would have repeated Gaddafi’s fate a long time ago, but someone is stopping Syrians and Iranians and Lebanese from fighting the Jews not “on the same gate”, but in vain, diplomacy then works when both sides want it, but otherwise it’s hypocrisy and lies; here and here- Jews demand the destruction of such states as Syria and Iran — how is it possible to “diplomatize” so to speak, but it’s very simple to deliver continuous attacks on this very Israel and does not hope for any kind of humanism or, especially, the UN
    1. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 22: 15
      0
      Ivan It is not your fault! Apparently, they didn’t tell you that the Syrians and Lebanese provoked wars themselves, or if they were put under attack by their co-religionists, and Iran said that it would destroy Israel and had already spent hundreds of millions of dollars to create its bases in Syria , and then from these bases hit the Jewish state. What is the meaning of this adventure? So, after all, Israel will respond in Syria, not Iran.
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  25. sergeyezhov
    sergeyezhov 11 May 2018 16: 22
    +1
    Quote: dsk
    Quote: alexsipin
    Sadducees (temple priests).

    Sadducees - ancestors of modern atheists were not temple priests.

    judaism.academic.ru/335/Prushim_i_Tsdukim
  26. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 17: 03
    +2
    Quote: Azim77
    This is a fine line - where self-defense ends and aggression begins. If some gopnik attacked you, and you kicked his brains out of him, this is an excess of the proportionality of self-defense. And such a case is examined and decided in court. Otherwise, there will be the Wild West. In the political environment, there is also such a court and international law. The whole point of the matter is that some countries, including Israel, often put this right from a high bell tower. And this is a bad precedent. The right of the strong it is - today you are strong, tomorrow another. And on the planet there is already nuclear weapons and without a civilized discussion, conflict resolution, without a single international law for all, one day may come last.

    “Good banging, my Islamic friend?” By what right are your kind hearts Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Yemen launched a war to destroy Israel the day after its proclamation (in accordance with the resolution of the UN General Assembly)?! By what right is the leadership of the same Iran throughout the world yelling for years that it is preparing to destroy Israel? Have you read anything on this subject in the Qur'an?
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 11 May 2018 21: 21
      +2
      Dear Michael, you are probably quite old, because live more memories, the past. And you have developed that very stubborn senile hatred of your neighbors. To me personally, all of the above countries are known only from history books, from the news, I was not there. Therefore, on the one hand, I agree that you know better there, on the other, I ask questions to the people of Israel, because I’m trying to understand who is currently dishonest and wrong. Or are there representatives of the above countries on the site? Above, one of the inhabitants of Israel has already tried to send me to study history, I agree, you need to know and remember history, but you can’t hold on to it and the past all the time, you need to scroll down the page. And I agree in this with many participants in the resource: Israel, for its part, is right tactically that it chose the moment to strike at Syria, when in this country the civil war and the current government are weakened. But on the other hand, there is a certain meanness in this, unworthy of real warriors. Believe me, I'm not a demagogue and I'm not trying to blame anyone. Just stating the reason for that (what to hide) hostility towards your people, which at one time led to the Holocaust. And believe me, I do not have any prejudices, half of the students in the class were of Jewish nationality, a close friend of a Jew, class teacher R.S. Veksler True, this is during the USSR.
      Pc: the fact that Iran shouts to the whole world that it will destroy Israel. You yourself understand very well when bluffing. Everyone knows that Iran will never do this, even if it has nuclear weapons. Therefore, do not underestimate others in their opinion.
      1. real israeli
        real israeli 12 May 2018 15: 28
        +3
        "Israel, for its part, is right tactically that it chose the moment to strike at Syria, when the civil war and the current government were weakened in this country. But on the other hand, there is a certain meanness that is unworthy of real warriors."

        And this is the first mistake.
        Israel is not interested in the current government in Syria and does not affect the policy of Israel.
        politics is only one security for the people of Israel
        And now, essentially:
        Israeli intelligence constantly monitors everything that happens in Syria,
        The movement of Iranian launchers towards the Israeli border was observed in order to increase the range of destruction of Israeli territory. When the launchers were ready to be launched, the Israeli Air Force dealt a leading strike!
        "According to the Israeli edition of Haaretz, the attacked objects are used by both the Syrian government’s arrest and the Iranian soldiers of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards. According to the Lebanese newspaper Al-Akhbar, missile depots are located at these bases. Apparently, the objects are mainly used by pro-Iranian Shiite units. "

        “Earlier on Sunday, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman made it clear that his country would have its hands untied for an operation in Syria.“ We have no intention of attacking Russia or interfering in Syrian internal affairs, ”Haaretz quotes the minister.“ But if anyone he thinks it’s possible to launch missiles or attack Israel or our planes, there is no doubt that we will respond and will respond very powerfully. ”

        "Speaking on Sunday, Avigdor Lieberman stated that his country has three problems:" Iran, Iran, Iran. "These words are perhaps the best illustration of Israelis' fears about the potential consolidation of Tehran in Syrian territory in the immediate vicinity of the territory of the Jewish state."

        http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/04/30/novye-raketn
        ye-udary-po-sirii-izrail-obeshhaet-otvechat-moshh
        no.html

        And a blow was struck at the warehouse of missiles of Iranian armed groups, an explosion of 200 missiles. What was recorded in Europe earthquake 2,6 points.

        All the wars that were in Israel started the Arab countries and Israel always had to recoup only 1967 Israel having intelligence went ahead of the curve.

        "You yourself understand very well when you are bluffing. Everyone knows that Iran will never do this, even if it has nuclear weapons."

        And now the second mistake
        If Iran is bluffing, why such an arsenal? And this is far from all.
        Iran’s goal is to subjugate the entire Middle East, and today they influence it and influence the policy of Lebanon, Emen. long claim to Iraq and now want to gain a foothold in Syria
        It’s quite simple with Israel that they don’t have such a state; there is a “Zionist entity” which must be destroyed
        Putin did not mind Iran being in Syria and doing dirty work on the ground (infantry)
        Putin does not need Iran at all in Syria; he wants to be the master there, so he accepts Netanyahu.

        Jewish people have very good genetic memory
  27. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 17: 05
    0
    Quote: sergeyezhov
    Quote: dsk
    Quote: alexsipin
    Sadducees (temple priests).

    Sadducees - ancestors of modern atheists were not temple priests.

    judaism.academic.ru/335/Prushim_i_Tsdukim

    - What a ridiculous nonsense - since when did the Sadducees become atheists ??!
    1. farcop
      farcop 12 May 2018 23: 16
      0
      Quote: Outsider
      - What a ridiculous nonsense - since when did the Sadducees become atheists ??!
      Well, they were taught that way ...
  28. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 17: 07
    0
    Quote: CYM
    there is the possibility of drawing Israel into a real war of attrition

    Apparently, Iran is seeking this, to lure the Israeli troops into the territory of Syria / Lebanon and drag them into a long counter-guerrilla war.

    - Dreaming is not bad!
  29. Boyar
    Boyar 11 May 2018 17: 07
    +3
    About Israel and Jews in Russia, one can speak either badly or nothing. What a cattle situation. What .... do they consider themselves better than other nations?
    1. Polina Dymerets
      Polina Dymerets 11 May 2018 22: 23
      +1
      You think so, and only because you have an inferiority complex. A common disease, but treatable - if brains and conscience are preserved in integrity!
    2. ver_
      ver_ 16 May 2018 10: 13
      0
      ... they are God's chosen ..
  30. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 17: 15
    0
    Quote: zulusuluz
    All actions of Israel will be good only until the moment when the Arab countries, taught by the war, take up arms against it. An army "trained" in parades is one thing, but an army taught by war looks very different.

    - "Surname, please?" List these countries?
  31. Outsider
    Outsider 11 May 2018 17: 22
    0
    Quote: dsk
    Quote: alexsipin
    Sadducees (temple priests).

    Sadducees - ancestors of modern atheists were not temple priests. Zadok as if I understood the teacher’s words in the sense that no reward expects a person beyond the grave and that, therefore, a person should only care about his earthly well-being, as they did Sadducees, who were all distinguished by their wealth and luxurious lifestyle.

    - So why are you banned from Google ?!
    "Sadducees who say there is no resurrection" (Math 22: 23)

    - Quite right: that original Judaism of Moshe, Abraham, Solomon, David, the Tzadik high priest (hence the Sadducees tsudikim) really completely denied the afterlife ... He denied the whole thousand years ...
    1. dSK
      dSK 12 May 2018 01: 57
      0
      Quote: Outsider
      really completely denied the afterlife ..

      As required. hi
  32. sergeyezhov
    sergeyezhov 11 May 2018 17: 58
    +2
    Quote: Outsider
    Quote: sergeyezhov
    Quote: dsk
    Quote: alexsipin
    Sadducees (temple priests).

    Sadducees - ancestors of modern atheists were not temple priests.

    judaism.academic.ru/335/Prushim_i_Tsdukim

    - What a ridiculous nonsense - since when did the Sadducees become atheists ??!

    You clearly confused me and the person I quoted. Unlike him, I know perfectly well who were tsidkim and demolition. Therefore, he cited the corresponding link.
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  34. Arabfun
    Arabfun 11 May 2018 19: 13
    0
    demoralizing site
  35. Alsur
    Alsur 11 May 2018 20: 36
    +3
    Quote: Snakebyte
    Do I believe that Putin has once again leaked an ally? Of course. In words, there is always full support, and as it comes to business, so "Russian interests are not affected."

    Proof, where is Putin or someone else from the first persons who declared full support for Syria? Maybe there is a union treaty Syria - Russia
  36. Berg berg
    Berg berg 11 May 2018 21: 03
    +1
    Information came from Israel that the Iranian strike on the Golan Heights inflicted massive destruction on military installations. Although Israel stated that there were no casualties, nobody believes that. Iranians also said that the Israeli vaunted dome of heaven worked to zero, all targets were hit. This was a response to the insidious attack on the Iranian military who are fighting Ishil in Syria.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 11 May 2018 21: 19
      +4
      Quote: Berg Berg
      Information came from Israel that the Iranian strike on the Golan Heights inflicted massive destruction on military installations. Although Israel stated that there were no casualties, nobody believes that. Iranians also said that the Israeli vaunted dome of heaven worked to zero, all targets were hit. This was a response to the insidious attack on the Iranian military who are fighting Ishil in Syria.

      The release of news from the parallel universe is over, and now we turn to the real problems .. laughing
    2. indy424
      indy424 11 May 2018 22: 06
      +2
      but you will not share, and from whom did such information come?
  37. Qwe asd
    Qwe asd 11 May 2018 21: 34
    0
    Quote: karish

    oh well, that the people of our country does not run away and does not export capital.


    ha..ha ..

    official statistics on the influx and outflow of the population from / to Israel for a reason have long been classified ..

    Israel has already served its own, it will cease to exist in the near future ..
    1. Strips
      Strips 11 May 2018 22: 24
      +3
      Quote: Qwe Asd
      official statistics on the influx and outflow of the population from / to Israel for a reason have long been classified ..


      Where do these tales come from? Information is available on the official website of the Central Bureau of Statistics of Israel
  38. demo
    demo 12 May 2018 00: 03
    +2
    An entertaining story is obtained. For Russia.
    What is Russia doing in Syria? He fights international terrorism.
    This answer is for the faint of thought.
    Okay. We go further. We master the bridgehead in the form of two bases - Khmeinim and Tartus.
    Interesting, but not pulling. Too many players are fighting for Syria. And each with its own tasks constantly brings its own dissonant voice.
    It seems to me that Russia is fighting to ensure that the Qatari gas through Syria does not go to Europe.
    Then the frenzy with which the players will tan each other is clear.
    We plowed the floor of Syria using our VKS.
    We tightened discipline, military literacy of the Syrian military. We dragged them equipment.
    For a year, with a little Syrians practically liberated their country.
    The fight against world evil - terrorism should be welcomed.
    But the USA is not joyful. Europeans are also not thrilled.
    The Israelis are furious.
    What's wrong?
    Ah - Assad. Yes, and also Iran.
    So-and-so. Israel does not recognize and threatens to erase from the map.
    And what does Iran need in Syria?
    Ally and foothold.
    For what? To erase from the card. To not run far with the erase.
    It seems to be so?
    If the actions of Iran and its supported Syria are not legal and dangerous, from the point of view of Israel, then how to assess the actions of Israel in relation to Syria and Iran.
    I’m saying that the fact that anti-Syrian armed groups received military, financial, medical and other assistance from Israel is not a secret.
    More than once or twice the Syrian captured officers of Israel, who captured the Syrian military in the camp of the enemy.
    For the time being, from quietly, without a poster, they passed back to Israel. But after some events (the murder of our general), there will be no more extradition.
    Both American, and French, and English officers are now in Syrian prisons.
    Most likely they will be changed, for something significant ..
    And here in such a difficult case, the United States intervenes in the person of an inadequate Trump, who begins to throw rockets as soon as his daughter asks.
    And the apotheosis is a break in the deal with Iran.
    Claims? A cabinet with discs on which all the sins of the Iranians are recorded.
    And who collected this data? Israel?
    Is it possible to believe Israel in this situation?
    After all, he is an "interested person."
    If the Saudis, or Iraqis, or Jordanians would release this data, there would be more faith.
    And I don’t believe it.
    And now about us, about Russia.
    Suppose everything is as planned.
    Israel, under the guise of fighting Al-Quds and Assad’s “unmotivated aggression,” will begin to iron everything.
    But selectively. Those. try to do the most harm to the most combat-ready parts of the Syrian army.
    What will happen next? That's right - the onset of black, bearded, frostbitten geeks.
    And here the USA is connected.
    They have their own wards, who have so far been driven into enclaves. But they will still want to escape from there.
    The Syrian army may simply not be able to fend off all strikes from the ground and from the air.
    A country that has been at war for so many years can simply be torn.
    I will not say anything about the moral costs of our President.
    For we will have to get out of there in a fire order.
    Or send your tank armies and missile tactical systems.
    And beat the Israelis and the Americans. And this is the end. The movie is over.
    But in Russia, a not very good attitude towards Jews will begin to take shape (i.e., persons of Jewish nationality who do not live in Israel). How such a negative attitude ends in Russia is well known.
    If the Israelis who write here are telling in every way how they are all hurt, then I cannot but believe them.
    Even if a person tries to embellish something, it is his right.
    But to consider the situation only from the point of view of combating short-term danger, without taking into account distant prospects, is the lot of the Polynesians, the Pre-Columbian period.
    By removing one danger in such a radical way, even more significant threats can be obtained in the future.
    Though. What am I talking about? The Israelis know what they are doing. And they believe that Jehovah will not leave them! Blessed is he who believes.
    I think that Putin can put puzzles no worse than mine.
    And perhaps he understands that the people will die for him without the benefit of our military in Syria so simply will not forgive and forget.
    This factor can have very fatal consequences for our President.
    The rest is from the evil one.
    1. Strips
      Strips 12 May 2018 01: 12
      +3
      It is no secret that anti-Syrian armed groups received military, financial, medical and other assistance from Israel.


      This is not a fact - propaganda lies.
      There is no evidence for this except stupid propaganda.


      More than once or twice the Syrian captured officers of Israel, who captured the Syrian military in the camp of the enemy


      And while no one showed their photos, their data.


      You write a lie and pass it off as facts. negative
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 12 May 2018 17: 30
      0
      Quote: demo
      It seems to me that Russia is fighting to ensure that the Qatari gas through Syria does not go to Europe.

      In order for the gas from Russia in the form of the Turkish stream to go along three lines to the EU, it doesn’t grow together, it doesn’t come out to the north of Syria and with the help of the Kurds put pressure on Turkey, the result is that two branches of the stream are dismantled, for the rest it is not very clear.
      Quote: demo
      For a year, with a little Syrians practically liberated their country.

      Well, this statement is far from reality, the north of Syria is under the Turks, the east of the Euphrates is under the Kurds with the support of the Americans, by the way, we have the most resources and agriculture on the east bank, again the Kurds control the dams on the Euphrates, in general, everything is different, or rather not this way.

      Quote: demo
      And what does Iran need in Syria?

      Yes, the same as Qatar, the Russian Federation and the USA - the European gas market.
    3. Leonardo da Vinci
      Leonardo da Vinci 16 May 2018 18: 44
      0
      M-yes ...! You told a lot of wonderful things. Only now it seems that no one except you has such information. What rubbish bin did you find it on? Where are links to sources? Where is this nonsense taken? In your message, not a word is a lie. With very few exceptions. A couple of common thoughts flashed through you.
  39. spektr9
    spektr9 12 May 2018 03: 26
    +2
    Hmm, which unites Germany for 38 years, the United States and Israel all have one installation of the uniqueness of their tribe and a gigantic desire for world domination ... The former have already been cured of such an ailment, the others will also have to
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 12 May 2018 06: 42
      +4
      Quote: spektr9
      Hmm, that unites Germany for 38 years, the USA and Israel all have one installation of the uniqueness of their tribe and a gigantic desire for world domination ...

      Is this Israel trying to gain world domination? You didn’t re-read Mine Campf for days on end, are you healthy? The only thing Israel is striving for is that the followers of the Fuhrer would stop firing rockets at Israel.
    2. sergeyezhov
      sergeyezhov 12 May 2018 10: 06
      +4
      Quote: spektr9
      Hmm, which unites Germany for 38 years, the United States and Israel all have one installation of the uniqueness of their tribe and a gigantic desire for world domination ... The former have already been cured of such an ailment, the others will also have to

      Manuals still need to be updated periodically. Israel, not all Russians can find on the map. Where to world domination.
  40. Bongo
    Bongo 12 May 2018 10: 55
    +3
    It is very difficult to comment on Damantsev’s “work”, since it is “very contradictory”. But I have a question about this, a quote from the publication:
    To prevent such a development of events, there is already an urgent need to deploy air defense systems. C-300PMU-2 "Favorite" in the 6 divisions, at least.
    Dear author, where are you going to take 6 spd export modifications C-300PMU-2 ? wassat Especially since the serial construction of the C-300P was discontinued several years ago. Maybe you should go down to the sinful earth?
  41. Netzah Netzah_2
    Netzah Netzah_2 12 May 2018 14: 22
    +1
    What an interesting this "Shell". He can intercept the 122-mm Grad, but the 170-mm Tamuz cannot ...
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 12 May 2018 17: 51
      0
      The answer to this is extremely simple. To paraphrase one Russian proverb: “It was not a bastard, the Syrian crew was chilling next to the Pantsyr-S1 shut-off air defense system” laughing
  42. Normal ok
    Normal ok 12 May 2018 14: 36
    +5
    Striking the Golan will seem like a prank to Israel. Due retribution is already at the gate
    [Quote] [/ quote]
    Another propaganda "bunch." Or nothing serious will happen. Or Israel will win. There are no other options.
  43. ver_
    ver_ 13 May 2018 01: 01
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: zulusuluz
    Army trained in parades is one thing

    Israel has an army not only in parades. In terms of professionalism, this is one of the best armies in the world. Believe me as a staunch anti-Semite. hi

    ... this is because there is no such team (funny) and it won’t .. The Golden Taurus rules the world, and whoever controls this * Taurus *, I believe everyone knows ... It’s harder for them * scroll * to raise low ... - to order and indicate - you can ..
  44. Seaflame
    Seaflame 13 May 2018 01: 45
    +4
    I can’t understand. Does someone seriously believe that Russia should support the interests and ambitions of Iran? Aren't you serious? Do we have nothing more to do ?! We have no other problems ?! Our task is to defeat the Islamic State (banned in the Russian Federation) and other terrorist husks, to support Assad. The return of the Golan Heights, the destruction of Israel and the dropping of the IDF into the Mediterranean Sea (which Iran dreams of) are not in our interests. Dot! In the place of our politicians, I would seriously pressure Iran, help Assad or not substitute him, hiding behind them in my wet dreams to erase Israel from the map of the Earth.
  45. ver_
    ver_ 13 May 2018 08: 11
    0
    Quote: Totah155
    Quote: Arkady
    Some return. No one will be busy: forever or until the next president.

    As a rule, losers and lazy people who do not want to assimilate come back.

    ... I see - the Jews of the wrong system ..
  46. ver_
    ver_ 13 May 2018 09: 48
    0
    Quote: solovald
    in the southern vicinity of Damascus, it is necessary to deploy even more "Shell-C1"

    If the shells will be used by the Syrians as well as the one that was "easily and naturally" destroyed when his calculation arranged a smoke break, then there will not be much benefit from them, but there will be only one image damage to Russian weapons.

    ... it's easy to heal ... Planting in stakes in antiquity is better than any edification ..-
  47. danan
    danan 13 May 2018 11: 11
    0
    Quote: Olgovich
    Absolutely everyone emigrated

    Explain why?
    your opinion.
  48. danan
    danan 13 May 2018 11: 19
    0
    Quote: Dym71
    your mossad stuff

    And what irresistible blondes are left in laughing Russia?
  49. danan
    danan 13 May 2018 11: 42
    0
    Quote: Imobile
    It is impossible to supply S300-S400 there will be a video of destruction - it will be a failure for export

    Igor Finally, the delivery of these complexes would create a problem
    THE PUNISHMENT CANNOT BE Pardoned
    Israel did not want this.
  50. Sergius 777
    Sergius 777 13 May 2018 12: 40
    0
    Somehow, our country didn’t bring down again. Where is the salvo from c400? What are we waiting for? IMHO it is necessary to close the sky of the ATS. And bring nuclear weapons there. Israel is already a shame on the partners of the Russian Federation. The war is on the verge and we are pulling ...