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BMMP project from Omsktransmash: a preliminary look and an unknown future

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Due to the specific conditions and tasks, the marines may need specialized armored combat vehicles. Several years ago it became known that the development of such samples started in our country. Just recently, new information appeared on the results of research in this area. The whole presentation on the theme of the image of the so-called got into free access. unified platform for marines.


Back in 2013, the first reports appeared about the plans of the Ministry of Defense to create a specialized armored vehicle for the marines, fully complying with its special requirements. New projects started, and in 2015, at the International Navy Show, a radio-controlled model of a future BMP was shown. However, later it turned out that at a certain moment the Ministry of Defense stopped a promising program, but some of its participants continued to work on their own initiative.



In early April, information appeared in the press about the future development of a full-fledged project "sea" BMP. Without reference to the officials, it was claimed that such a project was provided for by the new State Armaments Program. In the first days of May, new information on this was published. At the well-known forum "Bravery" laid out a document of the research and production corporation "Uralvagonzavod" under the name "Unified Battle Platform", showing the actual version of the appearance of such equipment.

As follows from the document, the research work to determine the appearance was carried out by the specialists of Omsktransmash JSC, which is part of Uralvagonzavod. In addition, the Research and Production Center "Special Engineering" (SPC SM) at MSTU. Bauman. Together, the two organizations have developed a rather interesting and promising variant of a promising armored vehicle.

According to the presentation, the prerequisites for the emergence of a new project are related to the current state of affairs in the field of technology for the Marine Corps. A number of foreign countries are armed with specialized armored vehicles of this kind, while the Russian units use the BTR-80 and BMP-3 family vehicles. In general, solving the assigned combat tasks, domestic machines are significantly inferior to foreign ones in speed on the water. At the same time, new designs are being developed in the United States that can increase the potential of the marines. The prospective unified platform offered by Russian designers is intended to be the answer to foreign successes.



It was found that the highest combat and operational characteristics should be shown by tracked marines of the Marine Corps (BMMP) with a combined machine-gun and cannon armament and a rather large amphibious assault unit. Also, to obtain high performance, it is necessary to introduce several new solutions of one kind or another. In addition, you need to develop not a specific machine, but a universal platform suitable for use in different roles.

The concept-project Omsktransmash proposes the construction of a tracked armored vehicle with a hull of a characteristic shape giving the best characteristics on the water. You should use a powerful propulsion system and special equipment for swimming. The images presented show a housing with a recognizable wedge-shaped frontal part, coupled with vertical sides and a horizontal roof with bevelled side sections. In front of the hull it is proposed to place a single control unit with all crew workstations. Behind him, on the roof, you should install a combat module of the required type. The central compartment of the hull is given under the power plant of sufficient power, and in the stern there should be a landing (in the variant BMP) or other payload.

The body is proposed to be assembled from armored aluminum alloy with a plating layer. Part of the external parts of the hull and chassis should also receive a stainless steel coating. The frontal projection of the hull must protect against 30-mm sub-caliber projectiles when shooting a distance of 300 m. Boards are protected against 12,7-mm bullets at a distance of 100 m. Mine resistance - up to 6 kg under the track The project also provides for the installation of the active protection complex "Arena-M", covering the entire front hemisphere.



To obtain high driving characteristics on land and on water, BMMP needs a powerful engine. According to the presentation, the car must be equipped with a gas turbine engine up to HP 1500-2500. He, along with part of the transmission should be located in the center of the hull. With the help of cardan shafts, it is proposed to deliver power to the front block of a hydromechanical transmission associated with the drive wheels of a caterpillar propeller, as well as for a couple of feed water cannons.

It is proposed to use the chassis with five road wheels on each side. An independent, controlled suspension is required to allow the rollers to change position. In front of the chassis should be driving wheels, in the rear - guides with a caterpillar tension mechanism. For movement on water two water cannons of a fodder arrangement can be used.

One of the objectives of the future project is a significant increase in speed on the water. To do this, the body and chassis must have several additional devices and capabilities. So, after going down to the water, the machine should flip back the nasal drainage flap, as well as lower the front flap, which covers the running gear. After lifting the rollers and pulling up the track, the undercarriage should be covered with special swivel bottom flaps. Finally, at the stern it is planned to install another panel: in the stowed position it should be at the roof level, and in the working position it should go down to the bottom.

After a similar procedure, according to calculations occupying no more than 50, the BMMP is able to move at high speed in the gliding mode. The presence of several shields to a minimum reduces the resistance of the environment, increasing the driving characteristics.



The Omsktransmash project envisages the creation of a universal platform suitable for use for various purposes. At its base, first of all, it is proposed to build a specialized BMP for the marines. In addition, it is possible to develop a command and staff vehicle, a combat reconnaissance vehicle, a self-propelled artillery installation, a self-propelled anti-tank complex or an air defense vehicle. Due to the general chassis, they will be able to work in the same combat formations, and in addition, it will simplify joint operation.

The main representative of a hypothetical family of vehicles is considered a martial combat vehicle. In this version, the universal platform must be equipped with a combat module that meets the requirements of the customer, as well as have a spacious troop landing compartment. The dimensions of the latter make it possible to place 10 seats (5 on each side with face-to-face positioning) for the landing with exit through the aft ramp or upper hatches. It is curious that the current project allows the use of different combat compartments and modules.

On one of the presentation slides, it is indicated that BMMP can carry an inhabited Bakhcha turret with 100-mm and 30-mm guns, machine guns and rockets, or remotely controlled modules with machine guns of various calibers or small-caliber guns. Of particular interest is the "Dagger" module, equipped with an 57-mm automatic weapon. It should show the highest characteristics, and therefore on most images BMMP is shown with such equipment.

The product "Dagger" is a remotely controlled system, installed on the chase of the hull and occupying a minimum volume inside the base chassis. The main weapons such a module is a 57-mm gun with a rate of 80 rounds per minute. There is also a twin machine gun PKTM. The design of the module provides a circular focus with elevation angles from -5 ° to + 60 °, which provides some opportunities to combat airborne targets. The module is equipped with a pair of opto-electronic units for monitoring the terrain and pointing weapons.



The ammunition of the main gun includes existing high-explosive and armor-piercing shells. Also declared the possibility of creating an armor-piercing sub-caliber shot, guided projectile with a high-explosive warhead or products with programmable blasting. According to Omsktransmash JSC, BMMP with the Dagger module will be able to hit surface, coastal or air targets at distances up to 10-15 km.

Combat module is proposed to connect with a digital control system. Data from scopes, navigation system, etc. should come to the digital computing system and automated workplaces of the commander and the gunner. The crew, in turn, controls the aiming drives and weapons. The weapon control system is included in the on-board information management system. Other components of the latter must monitor the technical condition of the machine, as well as ensure the exchange of data both inside the BMD and with other equipment on the battlefield.

The own crew of the unified platform in the basic version should consist of three people. All of them are located in the forward part of the hull, in the general habitable compartment and have hatches in the roof. The BMMP project provides 10 seats for paratroopers. Other models of equipment based on the platform may have a different crew with a different location.

According to published data, BMPP of a new type should be distinguished by outstanding dimensions and weight. The total length is determined in 10,5 m with a width of 3,4 m and a height of 3,4 m. The calculated combat weight is 35 t. Depending on the engine parameters, the power density may exceed 40-42 hp per ton. Due to this, the maximum speed on land will reach 75 km / h, on the water - a record for domestic 37 vehicles km / h. Cruising on land is calculated at the level of 300 km, on the water - three times less.



Corrosion protection of the armored vehicle design, marine equipment, applied materials and technologies should provide high performance characteristics. Declared the possibility of operation at air temperatures from -60 ° C to + 50 ° C. The service life is more than 10 years, provided it is restored as part of an overhaul.

Also became known results of the research work. First of all, the advantages of the tracked undercarriage were established when working in theaters of operations characteristic of the coastal forces of the Russian Navy. In addition, the overall appearance of a promising universal platform and a marine infantry fighting vehicle, corresponding to the actual requirements of the command, was formed.

JSC "Omsktransmash" together with SPC SM pi MSTU. Baumana ready for the start of development work on a new theme. R & D should be completed next year, and after that, the authors of the new concept are ready to begin a full-fledged design. Design works are related to 2020-22 years. From 2023, it is possible to launch the mass production of promising technology in the required quantities. The release of armored vehicles with their subsequent technical support "Omsktransmash" is ready to take over.

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As follows from recent reports, the overall appearance of one of the variants of a promising infantry combat vehicle for the marines has already been determined. If this project is developed, development work will begin in the near future, and by the middle of the next decade, coastal forces of the Russian Navy will be able to master a completely new technique. Known data show that the emergence of serial BMMP can have the most noticeable impact on the potential of the marines in various operations.



At the beginning of the published presentation of Omsktransmash, a number of foreign samples of amphibious equipment are mentioned, including an experienced EFV / AAAV BMP of American design. The main objective of this project, as well as BMMP, was to obtain the highest possible speed on the water. Through the use of a number of characteristic solutions and units, it was possible to bring the speed up to 46 km / h. With the combat mass in 36 and EFV, they could take on board 17 paratroopers and support them with 30-mm automatic cannon fire.

It is not difficult to notice that the Russian BMPP machine to some extent resembles the American design. In particular, approaches to providing high running characteristics are similar, and similar means of increasing the flow around on water are used. However, the significant similarity of the two developments can be explained by the same requirements and the lack of a wide choice of usable technical solutions.

It should be noted that the experimental EFV and the hypothetical BMMP have noticeable differences in characteristics. Thus, the American model was distinguished by a greater capacity of the troop compartment and a higher speed on the water. In this case, a clear advantage of BMMP is the combat module "Dagger" with 57-mm gun, which provides superiority over a significant number of modern and promising models of armored vehicles.

However, there is one fundamental difference. The American EFV project was brought to the test, but then closed due to unacceptable cost. Russian development of the same kind so far exists only "on paper", and even then, only in the form of a pre-designed look. However, this may provide certain advantages, such as the ability to take into account foreign experience and prevent the appearance of already known errors.



With an optimistic development of events, the new BMPPs, in the described or modified form, will be able to enter into service and replace the equipment available to the coastal forces. According to known data, at present the Russian marines have about 1400 armored combat vehicles for transport purposes. The base of this fleet consists of armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82; there are smaller numbers of infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2. It is not difficult to imagine how much promising technology must be purchased to completely replace existing samples. Thanks to this, the armed forces will be able to realize all the benefits from the construction of unified platforms.

Obviously, high-speed floating armored vehicles are necessary for the marines to implement the so-called. over-horizon landing. In accordance with current trends and ideas, universal amphibious ships should be used in such operations. However, as part of the Russian Navy ships of this class are not yet available, which leads to certain issues in the context of BMMP projects; both with regard to their necessity, and in terms of the future operation of serial equipment.

In the proposed form, the BMMP project from Omsktransmash and the Special Machine-Building Research and Production Center looks interesting, but its real prospects are still in question. Current work continues on the initiative and without an order from the Ministry of Defense. This may indicate that at the moment the military is not interested in obtaining specialized BMP for coastal troops, and therefore a curious development has no real future. However, the command may change its opinion, and in this case, the industry will not have to spend time on the preliminary study of the project.

One way or another, the Russian defense industry completed research projects already started and offered a rather interesting version of an armored vehicle with a special role. The further fate of this project is now in the hands of the Ministry of Defense. If warlords approve an initiative project, the marines will be able to count on a sharp increase in their potential. Otherwise, she will have to use the available machines with limited amphibious capabilities. However, in this case, the proposed ideas and developments can be used in other projects.

On the materials of the sites:
https://rg.ru/
https://flotprom.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/
http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/
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  1. tchoni
    tchoni 11 May 2018 06: 36
    +10
    Shaw !? Again? Armor is garbage, but our tanks are fast !? But floating ... like that same "it." Look how poor Syrians are perverting, trying to give their equipment at least some security! And the corners are welded, and the reinforcement, and they are lined with bricks, and they are draped with trellis ... And again we are swimming .....
    1. max702
      max702 11 May 2018 09: 59
      +7
      I agree the absolute useless nonsense from the Octopus series for the Airborne Forces .. There will be no landing, no landing on the equipped coast in the coming decades, as well as the decades before .. (Do not remember the spectacular landing in Iraq.) The landing operation always rests on one thing, namely to the logistics! There is no enemy’s land on the planet today that would pay for this process; for the weak, it’s excessive, for the strong there aren’t enough manpower and resources (expensive equipment and training of personnel in necessary numbers) ..
      1. yehat
        yehat 13 May 2018 09: 42
        0
        disagree about worthlessness
        but there are questions to the machine itself
        For example, how does air get in while swimming?
        Doesn’t it ever flood the wave? I would say that this unit is able to swim only in the lake, and buoyancy is required in 2-3 points of a storm on the sea coast.
        the tower seems to me very viable during the voyage -
        low located gunner's instruments.
        finally why a 57mm gun?
        Do we have armor work when landing?
        in my opinion, a much more useful weapon as on bmp3 or on an american floating machine.
        1. max702
          max702 13 May 2018 11: 21
          0
          Quote: yehat
          disagree about worthlessness

          The main question is what is it for? Why should I spend energy and money if this BT specifically for this concept will NEVER apply? And at the same time, other qualities of BT will suffer, similar to those that occurred during the production of equipment for airborne landing gear, everything is ground-locked by parachute landing, but in reality BT 100% works as BT of motorized riflemen, incurring losses due to its specialization ..
          1. yehat
            yehat 13 May 2018 20: 14
            0
            here you need to look for specialists from the General Staff - what they see in the doctrine.
        2. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 14 May 2018 22: 05
          +1
          Now the 57 mm fashion ... request
          Give power to everyone ... and even with a guided projectile, almost like an Excalibur ... Nobody wants to think about the price of such a projectile ... For defenders of this caliber, it’s better to shoot one answer all at once, but definitely less than 5-10 just past but ... It’s just that no one can say that a high-precision projectile will be many times more accurate than usual. And they say that because of the high accuracy, a 30mm gun rate is not needed ... request The main power .... So soon with a smart pistol loaded with smart and beautiful cartridges we will run ... lol
        3. VladislavL
          VladislavL April 28 2019 15: 06
          0
          I suppose by force - snorkel, as in a submarine + centrifugal fan. You can raise a meter and a half, in addition, snorkel pipe can be used as a mast for KAZ.
  2. Bar1
    Bar1 11 May 2018 07: 10
    +5
    2500 hp turbine for a helicopter, VK-2500 can’t create no more than 2400l.s. in take-off mode. Unless something goes to Boguslaev.
    In general, where are you going to swim on this machine? From Crimea to Odessa? It is clear what is being done with the aim of selling to the emirates or Iran.
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 11 May 2018 12: 43
      +2
      for turntables TV7-117С with take-off mode in 3000 hp was created and produced in series. and maximum traction 3600 hp
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 11 May 2018 14: 53
        +1
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        for turntables TV7-117С with take-off mode in 3000 hp was created and produced in series. and maximum traction 3600 hp

        117 has a maximum speed of 3t, 3.6t for emergency operation i.e. for a few seconds, then overhaul with the replacement of everything. As long as there is none at all, they say they will bet on IL-114 if there is money, but you hold on. In the meantime, there is only VK2500 and that's it.
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 11 May 2018 16: 02
          +1
          The United Engine Corporation (part of Rostec State Corporation) has begun mass production of TV7-117 B engines for the new Mi-38 helicopter
          18.07.2016 https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/80566/
          * series B, even more powerful will be (!)
          1. Bar1
            Bar1 11 May 2018 17: 48
            +1
            Quote: Romario_Argo
            The United Engine Corporation (part of Rostec State Corporation) has begun mass production of TV7-117 B engines for the new Mi-38 helicopter
            18.07.2016 https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/80566/
            * series B, even more powerful will be (!)

            We started to produce, but have not yet produced, this is now and then.
            1. yehat
              yehat 13 May 2018 20: 16
              +1
              We also launched tablets to start production
              however, the result is zero.
    2. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 12 May 2018 05: 20
      0
      Omsk made the T80 so that they have experience in installing such jumpers, and moreover, here are helicopters request
  3. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 11 May 2018 08: 18
    0
    Interestingly, the marines themselves will say about this, and not their commanders. soldier
    Cyril - thanks for the material for reflection! good hi
  4. Disant
    Disant 11 May 2018 09: 28
    0
    if for yourself, then let the sanctioned armored aluminum make it thicker
  5. seos
    seos 11 May 2018 10: 04
    0
    1) Initiative development
    2) It is obvious that it will come out very expensive due to the engine and most of the unique devices not manufactured by the industry, aluminum armor is also more expensive than steel armor ..., as well, the combat module is obviously one of the most expensive they want to stick .... moreover, the troops are in no hurry to order it unnecessarily, this will violate standardization ... how to service and repair all of these modules? factory only ... can you imagine the load on the supply?
    3) The huge design dimensions do not fit the military, there will be many opponents of such a machine ...
    If they developed a cheap specialized machine or a modified modification of existing equipment, it would make sense ...
  6. Leomobil
    Leomobil 11 May 2018 11: 31
    +2
    Do not call these modules “remotely controlled” - this is absolutely wrong! The closest name is the "crewless" module, or tower. On a bicycle, front brake- remotely controlled pads? :) They tied the rope to the descent - and called it a remote control! The main difference between the remote control is the ability to transfer to the initial (pre-battle) position, how can the Kalashnikov assault rifle be removed remotely, without losing bullets? Or maybe you can reload weapons without the personal involvement of the crew?
  7. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 11 May 2018 11: 55
    +3
    The ship is a dock + hovercraft platform capable of over-the-horizon landing in the shortest possible time, moreover, with the usual land equipment. No expensive, specialized BMP planing planes are required.
    That is why the Americans abandoned the expensive project.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 May 2018 13: 33
      0
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      The ship is a dock + hovercraft platform capable of over-the-horizon landing in the shortest possible time, moreover, with the usual land equipment. No expensive, specialized BMP planing planes are required.

      Heh heh heh ... as the experience of the USA has shown - even as required. The whole EFV program began with the realization of a simple fact: LCAC is a very large thing, and with reasonable size of the UDC / DVKD docking cameras, these boats are only enough for tanks and other heavy equipment. And the infantry will have to either be delivered by helicopters / "osprey" and fight on the shore without armor, in anticipation of the LCAC being released, or fight with a little of its armor and few tanks. Landing on LVTP together with LCAC is a refined perversion. smile Therefore, the Marines ordered the development of a high-speed amphibious infantry fighting vehicle capable of reaching the coast without the help of LCAC and at a comparable speed, transporting infantry and supporting it with fire and armor in battle.
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      That is why the Americans abandoned the expensive project.

      It became expensive due to the reduction in procurement. At the initial scale, the cost of one EFV came out quite normal. And after the same expenses were scattered on five times less volume - naturally, that EFV began to cost more than Abram
      In addition, the program was coolly picked up by US Deputy Secretary of the Navy Robert O. Work, who was in this post and said that the machine was morally obsolete during the development of the EFV, because due to the increase in the range of coastal anti-ship missiles, the landing line would have to be pushed even further from the coast. As a result, the range of the EFV will not be enough to land and conduct combat on the coast or return back to the carrier ship.
      Well, again there are persistent rumors that harness a horse and a trembling doe in one cart, to say BMP, supporting infantry with fire and armor, and gliding speed conveyor, the Yankees could not.
  8. Per se.
    Per se. 11 May 2018 13: 14
    +5
    All develop BMMP, with the gliding effect, for which you need a calm sea ... For battle on land, this is a bad BMP, for the sea, it is a mediocre boat. On the other hand, we so persistently do not want to give the marines a long-time-ready BMP-3F, which proved itself well when it was purchased by Indonesia for its marines. The machine is an adaptation of the classic land BMP-3 to the landing requirements of the marines, differing in an increased margin of buoyancy and stability (installation of water deflectors and telescopic air intake pipe to power the diesel engine). With a cruising speed on the water in 10 km / h and a running time of up to 7 hours, with 3 running, agitation and the ability to fire afloat with 2 scores, it is also a great fighting machine on the coast, which BMPM cannot match. By the year 2015, the States developed the EFV (Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle) - 34-ton tracked planing armored personnel carrier. Its travel speed on the water is up to 46 km / h, for gliding the machine applies a principle similar to BMMP. However, the mass production of EFV has not begun, but we have picked up this idea, as well as the emphasis on "over-landing". I will cite the words of Ivan Skuratov.
    Ex-Chief of the Coastal Forces (1987-1995), Colonel-General Ivan Skuratov told TsVMP correspondent that there is no need to copy American standards given the more modest Russian capabilities: "We have a completely different theater, more defensive nature. Russia does not need such landing operations "- says Skuratov.
    “Over-the-horizon landing is beautiful, but not very effective. Countries with advanced air forces or missile-artillery systems are able to sink amphibious ships even at such a distance, therefore the American way of landing troops is suitable only for overthrowing unwanted regimes in the banana republics. Even with the DPRK, this focus will not pass, "- added Colonel-General Skuratov.
    In the photo, the EFV monster, who so inspired our developers, despite the fact that we have no analogue of the Marine Corps, a huge amphibious fleet with UDC (as well as a generally powerful surface fleet), colonial expeditionary tactics of warfare.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 May 2018 13: 40
      +2
      Quote: Per se.
      In the photo, the AVF monster, which so inspired our developers, despite the fact that we do not have an analogue of the Marine Corps, a huge landing fleet with UDC (as well as a powerful surface fleet in general), and expeditionary tactics of warfare.

      It seems to me that one of the naval ones is still dreaming of the Bosphorus expedition: how our high-speed infantry fighting vehicles enter the Black Sea in Crimea, how they rush to the Straits under their own power (without any godless UDC there), how the enemies go ashore - here the adversary and the end will come. And nothing can be done by the adversary - for our army is innumerable, and not to drown him every BMP. smile
      1. beeper
        beeper 11 May 2018 14: 17
        +3
        In addition to the essence of your comment, dear Alexey RA, I really liked the "old-imperial" style of expressing thoughts yes , accurately referring us to those, alas, irretrievably bygone, times when such local "expeditions" in the Bosphorus and Dardanelles could, hypothetically, have chances of success, in the long run ... ehh, dreams! winked
        hi
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2018 19: 42
        0
        And so he can’t do anything. After a massive attack with Caliber, he will only have to give up, and floating infantry fighting vehicles are for show-offs. laughing
    2. beeper
      beeper 11 May 2018 14: 33
      +4
      Dear comrade Per se., I fully support your comment good and I think BMP-3f is the most optimal variant of the marine corps for all "occasions"!
      An armored tank-glider is very costly (cost will prevail in the criterion of cost / effectiveness) and a very specific “product”, with a narrow scope, although very interesting in terms of emerging tactical capabilities ... but if you choose “either-or”, then definitely BMP-3f. IMHO
      hi
      1. chingachguc
        chingachguc 11 May 2018 16: 34
        +1
        and imagine - he landed paratroopers in Sevastopol, and sent, relatives, Istanbul to storm on such gizmos))) the military-industrial complex is to offer the army all kinds of gizmos, and bells and whistles; the business of the army is to kick off the unnecessary)) this, by the way, is a healthy picture. With "Terminator" it turned out
      2. san4es
        san4es 11 May 2018 19: 55
        0
        hi Hi
        Quote: pishchak
        Dear comrade Per se., I fully support your comment good and I think BMP-3f is the most optimal variant of the marine corps for all "occasions"!
        Armored tank glider is very expensive:

        ... Therefore, it is necessary to put on the wings. smile

        .,
      3. san4es
        san4es 11 May 2018 20: 18
        0
        Quote: pishchak
        , ... definitely BMP-3f. IMHO
        hi

        hi ... an interview with the Arms Export magazine at the end of 2015, First Vice President and First Deputy General Director of Tractor Plants Concern Corporate Governance Company LLC Albert Bakov, the design bureau of the Russian Navy will design military equipment Volgograd Engineering Company "Volgograd Tractor Plant" ("VMK" VgTZ "). He noted that the tactical and technical requirements of the Marine Corps are specific and in terms of navigability are very different from the characteristics developed by the Kurgan machine designers. According to him, "BMP, like BMD-4M, can cross water obstacles without preparation and land on the sea coast from landing For the marines, this is a necessary but not sufficient condition.The marines want to get a car that must go on water like a hydrofoil boat, while maintaining the characteristics of infantry fighting vehicles on the shore". soldier

        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2527550.html
  9. kordon332
    kordon332 12 May 2018 08: 26
    +2
    An absolutely frivolous project, at the level of student coursework both in terms of design - there is no real engine, transmission, water jets for the declared power, air intakes, exhaust routes, and in terms of combat use - the erroneous opinion is that the speed is 40 - 50 km / h upon attack a well-prepared defense will save automatic guns from being hit by shells, not to mention high-precision munitions. The only difference between this product and BMP-3F is speed, which requires expensive full-fledged th R & D on the engine, transmission, water cannons and dr.A that balance - light, a valuable prey for enemy
  10. Cannonball
    Cannonball 13 May 2018 12: 09
    0
    Judging by the shape of the frontal armor ricocheting shells under the bottom, this trough even high-explosive shells can be disabled.
  11. 4thParasinok
    4thParasinok 27 January 2019 17: 27
    0
    another nonsense of Cyril ...