In Beijing listed the factors contributing to the development of trade with the Russian Federation

The number of positive factors contributing to the active growth of Chinese-Russian trade is constantly increasing, reports TASS a message from the official representative of the Ministry of Commerce of China, Gao Feng.

In general, the number of factors that have a positive effect on the growth of the scale of the Chinese-Russian economy is constantly increasing. In the future, we intend, together with the Russian side, to take incentive measures that will allow us to optimize the structure of our bilateral trade, to raise the quality level of the relevant transformation processes, to create new incentives for its development,

Feng told reporters at a press conference.

He recalled that, according to official forecasts, trade relations between China and Russia will continue to develop dynamically in the coming months and in 2018, bilateral trade should exceed $ 100 billion (in 2017, this figure was $ 84,07 billion).

According to an analysis conducted by the Ministry of Commerce of China, the dynamic growth of Chinese-Russian trade has recently been attributed to four key factors - firstly, the economic situation in the Russian Federation continues to steadily improve; secondly, China has increased the volume of purchases of a wide range of Russian-made goods. Thirdly, the number of new positive incentives to increase trade with Russia is constantly increasing. Fourth, China’s investment in the Russian economy has increased significantly,

told the representative of the department.

He also noted that in addition to traditional energy supplies, “in the structure of Russian exports there is a steady increase in the scale of agricultural products”.

Comments

[NEXUS]

In general, the number of factors that have a positive effect on the growth of the Sino-Russian economy is constantly increasing.

Which minimizes the effect of sanctions and strengthens our relations with the Chinese. At the same time, one should not forget about the Indian market, which is developing very dynamically.

[maxim947]

I add that the share of Russian imports from total trade with China in 2017 amounted to $ 41,2 billion

[210ox]

The main factor is that we do not produce a wide range of products. We simply have to purchase from China.

Quote: NEXUS

In general, the number of factors that have a positive effect on the growth of the Sino-Russian economy is constantly increasing.

Which minimizes the effect of sanctions and strengthens our relations with the Chinese. At the same time, one should not forget about the Indian market, which is developing very dynamically.

[NEXUS]

Quote: 210ox

The main factor is that we do not produce a wide range of products.

But this does not mean that we do not need to develop it.

[210ox]

Andrei It’s definitely necessary. Of course, not flashlights and children's toys. But the fact is that for example, the same microprocessor controller to buy in China will still be cheaper than producing from us. And this applies to EVERYTHING. I give an example. A familiar entrepreneur is setting up production and he needed a press form. I ran around, I found a domestic manufacturer. That's the price he bent and the terms .. I turned to the Chinese. The terms are four times faster and at a price three times cheaper.

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: 210ox

The main factor is that we do not produce a wide range of products.

But this does not mean that we do not need to develop it.

[NEXUS]

Quote: 210ox

Andrei

Dmitriy

Quote: 210ox

But the fact is that for example the same microprocessor controller to buy in China will still be cheaper than producing from us. And this applies to EVERYTHING.

This does not mean that we should abandon the development of our own. At the same time, why don't we take advantage of the Chinese achievements in creating our own analogues? I do not see anything reprehensible in this. And it’s not even a matter of technological breakthroughs, achievements, etc. ... it’s a matter of TECHNOLOGICAL Sovereignty.

[210ox]

There are already analogs. Again, on the Chinese element base. For example, Aries products. Good components for automation systems. But this is a whole chain. And we need to start by restoring domestic element base production. I give an example from the area where I work and I know the situation

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: 210ox

Andrei

Dmitriy

Quote: 210ox

But the fact is that for example the same microprocessor controller to buy in China will still be cheaper than producing from us. And this applies to EVERYTHING.

This does not mean that we should abandon the development of our own. At the same time, why don't we take advantage of the Chinese achievements in creating our own analogues? I do not see anything reprehensible in this. And it’s not even a matter of technological breakthroughs, achievements, etc. ... it’s a matter of TECHNOLOGICAL Sovereignty.

[Evdokim]

Quote: NEXUS

But this does not mean that we do not need to develop it.

Correctly. Especially.

“In the structure of Russian exports, there has been a steady increase in the scale of agricultural products.”

And this is good.

[weksha50]

Quote: 210ox

The main factor is that we do not produce a wide range of products. We simply have to purchase from China.

Well, sometimes I remind my opponents in conversations that we now even have threads, needles, nails, screws, tools - and those are Chinese ... And this is just a conversation about trifles ...
Still, what has been done with the industry of the former USSR, except as the greatest disaster, can not be called ...

[Ross xnumx]

We should not think about trade and speculation in connection with it, but about the development of our own production. Russia is a self-sufficient country. It is full of everything, in particular honest and smart people, and liars, hypocrites, grabbers and money-grubbers crawl into power. They probably have some kind of dope or opium for the people ...

[Zaurbek]

The supply of pork and poultry is on the agenda. We ourselves do not have enough milk.

[Masya masya]

trade relations between China and Russia in the coming months will continue to develop dynamically in 2018

Development is better than regression ...

[Mountain shooter]

China still buys weapons from us. Engines For airplanes. Forest (and less and less round timber!) ...

[Antidote]

Have you been at the border for a long time? They bring wood (both round and board) and scrap metal. Everything goes back, from onions and cement, ending with machines and tracts. Engines they take less and less mastered.

[8200]

And how many percent of these 100 billion are purchases on Aliexpress?

[Kerensky]

in the structure of Russian exports there is a steady increase in the scale of agricultural products

Are these products that we ourselves can’t afford?
Then, just now in a shop for beets, I looked at borscht .... however!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Kerensky

Is this the kind of product that we ourselves can’t afford? Then, just now in the store for beets, I looked at the borscht .... however!

Intrigued. And what is the result? Cooked instead of beetroot, avocado or mango?

[Kerensky]

Intrigued. And what is the result?

Well, I'll just cook yet. And we are driving an avocado with mango in China, or what?
I understand that the main cheat is from intermediaries, but before my eyes there is beets, which we buried in the fields instead of studying.

[bulvas]

Quote: Kerensky

in the structure of Russian exports there is a steady increase in the scale of agricultural products

Are these products that we ourselves can’t afford?
Then, just now in a shop for beets, I looked at borscht .... however!

It is extremely interesting what your ".... however!"

I always buy it myself, no emotions

[Kerensky]

It is extremely interesting what your ".... however!"

What I see in the store at a fairly high price cannot be compared with what we collected (actually for livestock feed) as schoolchildren. And then the collective farmers did not have time to export and threw them into the fields. And this is with a shoulder transport of 7 km. to the city.

[bulvas]

Quote: Kerensky

It is extremely interesting what your ".... however!"

What I see in the store at a fairly high price cannot be compared with what we collected (actually for livestock feed) as schoolchildren. And then the collective farmers did not have time to export and threw them into the fields. And this is with a shoulder transport of 7 km. to the city.

As schoolchildren, I already understood that if it weren’t for the garden I couldn’t see I had normal vegetables and vitamins.
What we collected and what we later saw (and especially did NOT see) in the shops can not be compared with what you can buy now all year round

Do not like prices - grow yourself, it is not forbidden

Now even my parents (alive, thank God) recognize that now their garden does not make much sense, everything is available in the store

[weksha50]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Intrigued. And what is the result? Cooked instead of beetroot, avocado or mango?

[dgonni]

Again, agricultural products of Chinese origin, grown by Chinese hard workers in the Far East, on land concession to the same China. We are silently stupid for the forest. Mass felling and export to China. Those who want to see the root, let them chat online with local Khabarovsk and Amur in their social networks. My second cousin came from those lands. I did not believe at once. It turns out a fact

[cariperpaint]

Lies) with it stupid. There is no such thing with us))) it was at zero, but everyone who did this either sat down or fled. You can stand at the railway tracks not a single train with a round timber all day)))

[bulvas]

Quote: cariperpaint

Again, agricultural products of Chinese origin, grown by Chinese hard workers in the Far East, on land concession to the same China.

I know there was such a thing in Siberia, but then the Chinese were expelled from there and all their greenhouses were demolished
If I’m not mistaken, it’s already 7-8 years ago

[cariperpaint]

They didn’t kick them out, they just squeezed them out for a long time. I really now see them less often than Uzbeks or other citizens of the former Soviet republics. About the round timber is really funny to even read. If there is such a thing, then it is definitely not in those regions that they indicated. Gruglyak just can not be dragged across the border. Since the year 98, when they began to tighten the screws, so now only a psycho will contact this.

[syndicalist]

No need to interview anyone. You never know what they say. But you can open a satellite map and make sure that for a reason, over the past 5 years, China has turned from an importer of wood into the world's largest exporter, pushing even Canada to the US market. Just look, in the same google map of the Far Eastern or Baikal forests, for example, in the Ust-Ilimsk region and everything will become clear. Now this is not the green sea of ​​the taiga, but a chessboard with a predominance of white cells.

[Yak28]

When I lived in the USSR we did everything, tracksuits, bicycles, toys, dishes, knives, tools, shuttlecocks and everything else, now China does it all. It turns out that bourgeoisie benefit from speculation rather than their production. In general, it’s a shame and shame that The Russian market will die without cheap Chinese consumer goods.

[cariperpaint]

To produce this consumer goods is stupidly more expensive than there for a whole bunch of reasons. And it makes no sense when nearby it is produced in wild quantities. And to build initially unprofitable production is generally wildness.

[Yak28]

You can buy everything, and with whom will the citizens of Russia work? Trading traders as speculators and servants with servants.

[cariperpaint]

But why? There are high-tech industries, and you need to invest in them. But consumer goods now just do not work. From China it will be cheaper, I think for many more years.

[dgonni]

+ Definitely. During the union, there was such a plant as the Ivanovo Heavy Machine Tool Plant, and this was the flagship in its production specifics! His products were bought without disdain (Germany, Japan, Italy, Sweden, Finland, France). At the moment, still breathing, but not very much. There is something to compare, because in the district center there are 2 enterprises engaged in metalworking. They work purely for Europe. Machine tools 1989-1998. So, Ivanovtsi in terms of reliability and quality in those days was not inferior! Cnc? Well, that was the evil genius of all machine tools with progamous control in the USSR! Now you just can’t find a machine with a workable system. And German and Belgians, already in those days, they loaded programs from the computer through the port.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Yak28

In general, it is a shame and a shame that the Russian market will die without cheap Chinese consumer goods.

Why is it that the Russian market should die? Encore! whether?. If you see the listed assortment from China on the shelves, then this market has long died. Now it’s just begun to make attempts to resurrect him.

[Moskovit]

We work a lot with the Chinese. Indeed, they can quickly and accurately do everything. The question is how much do you pay for material and work. And still cheaper than ours. Because many domestic tricks stupidly order there. In fairness, all of Europe, the States and Japan make all consumer goods and electronics there.
But on the other hand, the Chinese are paying for it with dead ecology and junk food.