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When will Russians see promising DT-BTR on Red Square?

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Demonstration during the Victory Parade of technology for the Arctic compounds is becoming a good tradition. And this is not surprising: the Arctic is the region where the interests of great powers are already closely facing, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


When will Russians see promising DT-BTR on Red Square?


“This combat vehicle, according to open data, is intended for the transportation of personnel of the motorized rifle squadron and its fire support in the harsh natural and climatic conditions of the Arctic, Siberia and the Far East,” says the material by Lev Romanov.



The weight of the car is 25 T. The weight of the towed trailer is at least 7 T. The BTR will be able to carry 12 people, including three in the first link and nine in the second. The maximum speed is 60 km / h by land and 6 km / h by water.



One of the options for weapons considered uninhabited combat compartment of the same type as the BMP "Kurganets-25". Armament: 30-mm gun, twin 7,62-mm machine gun, Kornet ATGM.



As well as on other models of promising technology on the DT-BTR, it is possible to install a KAZ, which will allow to destroy anti-tank ammunition flying to the car, the author concludes.
Photos used:
http://vestnik-rm.ru
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  1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
    Lavrenti Pavlovich 10 May 2018 13: 14
    +14
    This is all good, but will we ever ever see the same T-14, Coalition, Kurganets, SU-57 in mass production ... All in single copies, but why fight if that? A lot of talk and very little is done. The main tank T-72? ....
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 10 May 2018 13: 20
      +1
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      This is all good, only we will ever see in mass production the same T-14, Coalition, Kurganets, SU-57

      in 10-15 years
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      All in single copies, but why fight if what?

      Nuclear weapons or caps with earflaps (calibers-daggers - s-400)
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    2. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 10 May 2018 13: 59
      +3
      T-14 for network-centric warfare.
      The main tanks are the T-90 and T-72.
    3. starogil
      starogil 10 May 2018 15: 02
      +4
      As well as super unsurpassed, non-analog air defense, missile defense and electronic warfare systems in combat
      setting ....
    4. Chichikov
      Chichikov 10 May 2018 16: 26
      0
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      This is all good, only we will ever see in mass production the same T-14, Coalition, Kurganets, SU-57 ... All in single copies, but why fight if that?
      One conclusion, that everything is in due time, will not help. Like the well-known parable about a patient who is greedy with greed, in a pharmacy, “Give pills for greed. And more, more, more, more ...”
      For all promising and sought-after, both civilian and military projects, there are no elementary ruble and green tugriks.
      1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 10 May 2018 18: 12
        +2
        Quote: Chichikov
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        This is all good, only we will ever see in mass production the same T-14, Coalition, Kurganets, SU-57 ... All in single copies, but why fight if that?
        One conclusion, that everything is in due time, will not help. Like the well-known parable about a patient who is greedy with greed, in a pharmacy, “Give pills for greed. And more, more, more, more ...”
        For all promising and sought-after, both civilian and military projects, there are no elementary ruble and green tugriks.

        If you produce in single copies no money is enough. Conclude a contract for 1000 units (500 for yourself, 500 for sale in the export version) and the money will be earned and the cost will drop.
    5. MoJloT
      MoJloT 10 May 2018 16: 34
      +2
      All in single copies

      Black and white, it says
      Demonstration during the Victory Parade of technology ... ... is becoming a good tradition.

      And for the parade, mass production is not required! Such a new tradition.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 10 May 2018 13: 14
    +6
    No need to rush ... new samples should be as raw as possible, and less tested. The sense of taking into service is essentially not a finished sample? At the same time, we must not forget about the modernization of existing weapons, which work very well in the same Syria or Donbass.
    1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 10 May 2018 13: 21
      +6
      When launched into mass production, although doubts arose after Medvedev’s appointment, everything will already be morally obsolete. But increasingly it seems that no mass production is being prepared.
      1. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc 10 May 2018 14: 06
        0
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        after Medvedev’s appointment

        Borisov will come and will justify his appointment.
    2. san4es
      san4es 10 May 2018 15: 12
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      No need to rush ... new designs should be ....

      hi ... If you look at the D-30, you can hang a lot of things ... even BMPT, ballistic fellow
  3. Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 May 2018 13: 25
    0
    only we will ever see in mass production

    To do this, you need to develop a technical process, equipment ... Cooperate with a bunch of subcontractors. When everything is ready, then you can launch ... a group of process engineers at any suitable plant. They bring a set of drawings, evaluate the capabilities of the enterprise together with the locals. Then the car of equipment comes and go!
    1. novel66
      novel66 10 May 2018 13: 39
      +5
      then, as a rule, an M14 nut is put on the M12 screw and away we go ...
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 10 May 2018 14: 03
        0
        then, as a rule, an M14 nut is put on the M12 screw and away we go ...

        Yes, it will. Local, by all means, for simplification of production, designers are against. They should be counted and redone.
  4. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 10 May 2018 13: 25
    +2
    I think its main feature is ultra-low ground pressure, which is very important in the conditions of the far north.
    1. Retired2012
      Retired2012 10 May 2018 13: 42
      0
      A car of 25 tons cannot be pulled out by the tundra ..... "Motolyga" is an excellent tractor! and he gets stuck ........ And on the ice, there are cracks ... ropaki ... Solarium needs a special ...
    2. My_log_in
      My_log_in 10 May 2018 13: 43
      0
      ... or on sandy soils.
  5. basmach
    basmach 10 May 2018 13: 49
    +9
    It is necessary to show what is being mass-produced and is in service, as was the case in the USSR. And so it’s all “promising shushpanzery”. To brag of a dozen samples collected "on the knee" for the parade is a fate for those who are near.
    1. parma
      parma 10 May 2018 14: 28
      +4
      Then you won't shout how beautiful everything is and there is no analogy in the world, otherwise the serial equipment has already gone over the hill in a larger circulation than the troops ...
  6. tchoni
    tchoni 10 May 2018 13: 49
    +1
    I hope never. Our military-industrial complex begins to gush like Khokhlyatsky with nonsense ideas. There will be a holiday, if at least what is in the troops, and not at parades.
  7. Blackbeard
    Blackbeard 10 May 2018 14: 10
    +1
    boxes are) smile
    1. san4es
      san4es 10 May 2018 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: blackbeard
      boxes are) smile


      hiThis car does not need a road. It will pass even where no human foot has stepped. It is called a snow and swamp vehicle. She can swim, confidently overcome virgin snow, swamps, steep climbs and obstacles up to one and a half meters high. Rough terrain is her element. This is the most passable tracked vehicle of all. It can even move on one track. Only one transporter in the world is capable of this - the Vityaz all-terrain vehicle. soldier
  8. san4es
    san4es 10 May 2018 14: 11
    0
    for transportation of personnel of a motorized rifle squad and its fire support in the harsh natural and climatic conditions of the Arctic, Siberia and the Far East



    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/dt-btr/
  9. prodi
    prodi 10 May 2018 15: 05
    +1
    it is obvious that ground armored personnel carriers should be made only according to a two-link scheme
    1. san4es
      san4es 10 May 2018 15: 17
      0
      Quote: prodi
      it is obvious that ground armored personnel carriers should be made only according to a two-link scheme

      hi ... Above picture what
      1. prodi
        prodi 10 May 2018 16: 23
        +1
        it's not even about cross-country ability, it takes at least two shells to destroy the vehicle
        1. san4es
          san4es 10 May 2018 16: 42
          +3
          smile ... And if the 5-link? fellow wink

          belay ... land cruiser fellow
          1. tchoni
            tchoni 10 May 2018 16: 45
            +1
            The British carried armored trains from armored carts behind a steam tractor to the Anglo-Boer)
  10. Lynx33
    Lynx33 10 May 2018 20: 23
    +3
    Who are you going to fight with in the Arctic? With polar bears? It's just like cutting money, when everything is being developed so diligently for the Arctic, and aviation is abandoned. It's a shame when airplanes built 30 and 40 years ago fly over the red square, the only new one is a pair of T-50 prototypes (this is not a Su-57, but a T-50, since it is not serial).
  11. Old26
    Old26 11 May 2018 09: 00
    0
    Quote: parma
    It is necessary to show what is produced in series and is in service, as it was in the USSR

    For example, as "Transformer", "Condenser", GR-1, RT-15 and RT-20, SAM "Dal" laughing

    Quote: prodi
    it's not even about cross-country ability, it takes at least two shells to destroy the vehicle

    What for? A shell in the engine module and that's it. The car is destroyed. Let the second module with the gun remain. Will be the target for the enemy. Or vice versa. Destroy a module with a combat module. What will the motor do then?
    IMHO, one shell is enough
    1. prodi
      prodi 11 May 2018 20: 45
      0
      the personnel of the second module gets a good (50%) chance to either leave the vehicle or take it out of the fire zone