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Russia is pro-Western: the reality of tomorrow

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The Soviet Union began the 1980's. and the modern Russian Federation. What do they have in common? In the same way as a dying USSR, today's Russia is trying to find a way out of the socio-economic impasse. Putin in the West is compared to Brezhnev and they are waiting for the “decrepit regime” to collapse. After that, Russia will instantly become a pro-Western country! This is only a matter of time, according to foreign experts. And they add: after February 1917 of the year and after August of 1991, the “third pro-Western turn” will finally take place in Russia. Where such confidence?




Some compare Vladimir Putin with Joseph Stalin. But is it legitimate? Experts believe not. For example, a former diplomat, publicist Vladimir Fedorovsky (a Frenchman of Russian origin) believes that Putin is "a mixture of Brezhnev and Khrushchev." He said this in an interview "Le Figaro".

As a basis for comparison, the writer cited the following arguments.

Like the current Putin, Khrushchev "ruled" the state through slogans. For example, his slogan “In twenty years we will overtake the United States!”

Putin behaves the same way. The other day, he outlined another ambitious course of the government, expressing it in a number of decrees. One of such decrees even established that Russia, before the end of Putin’s last term, will occupy a place in the top five world powers.

It looks like Putin and Brezhnev. Especially great is the similarity in the selection of both Kremlin cadres. Like Brezhnev, Putin puts people near him who he has been working with for a long time. And this approach works against Putin: the expert is convinced that it is extremely difficult for Putin to update political cadres - preference is simply given in the same way. The publicist calls this state of affairs "the plague of continuity."

Preservation as Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev emphasizes Putin’s reluctance to take the path of reform. After all, the new old Prime Minister Medvedev fell heavily in the eyes of the Russians.

Finally, the executive branch in Russia, Fedorovsky believes, does not see how the collapse of oil prices weakened the economy in the country. Yes, and foreign policy, despite the "startling statements", remains a problem for the interests of Russia.

As for Stalin, there’s little in common: Stalin’s president borrowed only craving for symbolism and rhetoric in the national spirit.

How can Russia get out of the socio-economic impasse, which is being repeated by Western experts?

This question was answered in Germany. Russia will be pro-Western. These are the Russian perspectives, says Andreas Umland, the author of a large amount of analytical material published in the influential German newspaper. «Die Welt».

The material is called “Will Russia become pro-Western (prowestlich) after Putin?” And the author is convinced: he will!

Andreas Umland is the editor of the book series Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society (published in Stuttgart), a researcher at the Institute for Euro-Atlantic Cooperation (Kiev).

The main message of his new article is the following: The West should already be prepared “by the end of the Putin era”. For this, Russia should offer “a concrete plan of gradual Western integration” (“einen konkreten Plan für eine schrittweise Westintegration ihres Landes anbietet”).

There are many differences between the Soviet Union at the beginning of the 1980s and the modern Russian Federation. However, the Soviet state, which was on the verge of collapse, and the current Russian state have similarities. They are similar in that the “Putin regime” is maneuvering, like the “outgoing USSR”, in a “socio-economic impasse”.

The communist leadership in Moscow was unable to reform the Soviet economy at one time, and Putin, from 1999, "created in Russia a kind of corporate-kleptocratic order," Umland believes. This “pseudo-democratic regime” of it, like the Soviet system, is not “viable,” and therefore “doomed.” This is only "a matter of time when the Putin system collapses," the publicist is sure.

Further, he discusses the future of Russia. Everything is very clear to him here: ultimately, the analyst writes, “Russia's future can only be linked to its gradual integration into Western economic and security structures”.

There is no “Asian alternative” to the European integration project for Moscow, the author believes. He recognizes the union with China as “unequal”, calling it a “fragile axis.”

In addition, today's Russia is "too weak to form an independent pole in a multipolar world."

“Like Putin's kleptocracy, his Eurasian Economic Union is a temporary entity. Russia is a part of Europe, not a mythological Eurasia. ”


The West missed the moment of the collapse of the Soviet Union, but the West must “prepare in advance” for the coming “collapse of the Russian regime,” the author concludes. After February 1917 of the year and after August of 1991, this will be “the third pro-Western turn of Moscow”.

A turnaround is inevitable, and the West should "develop a detailed action plan in the event of this new attempt at Europeanization." Already today it is possible to launch the “integration vision” project for Russia.

This time everything will be simpler: there is already a practical scheme that the West can apply to “post-imperial Russia”: this is the policy of unification and integration of Brussels with the post-Soviet states of the EU’s Eastern Partnership.

And here is the specifics from Herr Umland: Russia, like Ukraine or Georgia, needs to propose an action plan to liberalize the visa regime in the Schengen zone, deepen the free trade zone with the EU and gradually join NATO. So Brussels will not only restore the format of cooperation with Moscow that took place before 2014 (G8 meetings, the Russia-EU summit, negotiations on membership in the OECD, Partnership for Peace, etc.), but also allow Russians after implementation of a detailed action plan for visa liberalization; free movement in Europe.

The strong EU partnership agreements with the Republic of Moldova, Ukraine and Georgia, as well as the Economic and Trade Agreement between the EU and Canada (CETA) can serve as models for creating a free trade zone from Vancouver to Vladivostok, the expert is convinced.

Along with the promise of membership of Ukraine and Georgia in 2008, NATO can offer Russia a prospect of future membership and joint implementation of the action plan. Similar proposals can be made to Belarus and Armenia, the author continues.

The goal of the comprehensive proposal is “to show the Russians that their country has a life after Putin, outside the empire and in Europe”.

In exchange, Russia must abandon its “foreign policy adventures” (in Syria and other places). Moscow should withdraw its troops from the Republic of Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine.

The Russian Federation, summarizes Umland, will become “part of the West”, including part of a free trade zone with the EU.

* * *


Re-election and inauguration of Putin, oddly enough, did not give European experts a reason for pessimism. On the contrary, powerful optimism infused itself in the hearts of other thinkers (almost according to Trotsky, who in his youth was talking about absolute optimism).

Apparently, the European faith in the western future of Russia is connected with the fact that the “Putin regime” does not last forever, and the current president has gone on his last term.

A. Umland, like some other experts, does not admit that Putin can preserve the system by naming his successor in 2024. “The days of Putin and his fragile political system are numbered anyway,” the expert says. But a similar scenario (with a successor) has been circled in Russia more than once: the Yeltsin-Putin-Medvedev-Putin line is historical by the fact. Apparently, for the West this does not bode well; a line with a successor to European plans does not hurt. Yes, in 2024, Russians following a course of stability, can again choose presidential medvedevBut the West has long hoped for the pro-Western course of this politician inclined to reform.

Preservation of the course does not seem to experts possible only because the Brezhnev stagnation, along with generous help to the fraternal countries, economically ruined the USSR at the time. It is in economic issues that western experts see a chance for the transformation of Russia, on its new, pro-Western course.

However, not new. After all, this course was known in 1917 and 1991. Now Europe is waiting for the continuation of the banquet. The only question is who will lay the table.
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  1. bandabas
    bandabas 11 May 2018 05: 24
    +12
    As Mayakovsky wrote
    "I'm thrilled with the New York city.
    But I can’t tear off the cap from the temple.
    The Soviet have their own pride:
    We look down on the bourgeois. "
    It's not about GDP and DAME.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 May 2018 05: 45
      +28
      Some compare Vladimir Putin with Joseph Stalin. But is it right? Experts say no. For example, a former diplomat, publicist Vladimir Fedorovsky (a Frenchman of Russian origin) believes that Putin is a "mixture of Brezhnev and Khrushchev."
      you do not need to compare GDP with anyone, it is by itself, even we Russians do not really know it. And about the “turns” to the west, first, second, now third ... so we go around in circles! we are not needed anywhere, neither in the west nor in the east, and therefore, it is time to accept this, and build our future, independent, we have everything, but just squander it’s not the case.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 11 May 2018 07: 58
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        we are not needed anywhere, neither in the west nor in the east, and therefore, it is time to accept this, and build our future, independent, we have everything, but just squander it’s not the case.

        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        we are not needed anywhere, neither in the west nor in the east, and therefore, it is time to accept this, and build our future, independent, we have everything, but just squander it’s not the case.

        Right to all 100
      2. credo
        credo 11 May 2018 13: 28
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Some compare Vladimir Putin with Joseph Stalin. But is it right? Experts say no. For example, a former diplomat, publicist Vladimir Fedorovsky (a Frenchman of Russian origin) believes that Putin is a "mixture of Brezhnev and Khrushchev."
        you do not need to compare GDP with anyone, it is by itself, even we Russians do not really know it. And about the “turns” to the west, first, second, now third ... so we go around in circles! we are not needed anywhere, neither in the west nor in the east, and therefore, it is time to accept this, and build our future, independent, we have everything, but just squander it’s not the case.

        Western "analysts and projectors" are touching with their spontaneity, offering us to look at Russia from the perspective of a hundred years and no more, and this unfortunately works especially if it concerns young people who do not know the history of their country.
        Unfortunately, our youth do not even know well the period that we call the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period, which led the country to collapse and plunder, including “benefactors” from the west. And these gaps in education can still affect the prospects for the development of Russia.
        And everything is as usual with the Western “analysts” —in Russia and in countries unwanted by the united West — power is necessarily called the regime, officials are called kleptocracy, people are the silent masses, and the situation in the country is undemocratic. For the united West, all those who do not obey them and do not follow their instructions will always be objectionable and underdeveloped, because this West has arrogated the right to teach and read notations to anyone, and those who obey this requirement will be allowed the right to assent and please large uncles and aunts from the EU and NATO, only Russia doesn’t need it at all, we don’t need it.
      3. Plate
        Plate 11 May 2018 15: 25
        +1
        And in the construction of their future, to provide for the possibility of the economy working on a closed cycle while retaining the ability to provide its Armed Forces fully in such a situation, and to make these Armed Forces a global force. That's when we definitely will not be threatened by any pro-Western and other unfavorable turns to us.
      4. NordUral
        NordUral 11 May 2018 17: 59
        +1
        Your understanding, yes to the guide to action, for the "guarantor".
      5. Dimmedroll
        Dimmedroll 11 May 2018 18: 35
        0
        Elites cannot survive this. So they are trying to pass us there and profit from it.
      6. 7gor
        7gor 13 May 2018 02: 44
        +1
        Yurievich + for the truth
  2. Vard
    Vard 11 May 2018 06: 21
    +7
    The main thing is that there wouldn’t be a war on the territory of Russia ... At least fifty years ... And then you’ll come somewhere over a hill .. And there is a house about five hundred years old ... And it’s standing like new ... And we have everything like after the bombing. ..
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 11 May 2018 12: 02
      +12
      Quote: Vard
      The main thing is that there wouldn’t be a war on the territory of Russia ... At least fifty years ... And then you’ll come somewhere over a hill .. And there is a house about five hundred years old ... And it’s standing like new ... And we have everything like after the bombing. ..

      Actually, in Europe, the war began even earlier than ours. The only difference is that when our Soviet troops liberated Europe, all of their "houses" tried to save by sacrificing the lives of our soldiers, and our "houses" to the united "enlightened" Europe were not needed. For them, we were not people at all, but cattle!
      Now the question. Still want to integrate into Europe, even a carcass, even a scarecrow? After all, their priorities at the expense of us have not changed and the Auschwitz, with the current "civilized" technologies, are being built very quickly.
      1. Vard
        Vard 11 May 2018 12: 07
        +2
        And we do not need camps ... we suckers destroyed the chemical weapons ... and they ... saved it ... They sprayed it from the plane and yeah ...
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 11 May 2018 15: 02
          0
          Quote: Vard
          And we do not need camps ... we suckers destroyed chemical weapons ... and they ... saved it ... They sprayed it from the plane and yeah ..

          So you have to be the first, why wait then?
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 15 May 2018 05: 23
      +1
      And we have everything like after the bombing ...
      Have you tried to work? Try between things, you might like it ......
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 11 May 2018 06: 36
    +1
    who will set the table.
    and there are always lovers on the ball! But free cheese is only in a mousetrap!
    1. ivselim
      ivselim 11 May 2018 07: 51
      +3
      The cheese in the mousetrap has the same price ... life.
  4. Basil50
    Basil50 11 May 2018 06: 43
    +11
    The author is justifiably worried that with RUSSIA they can do the same as * temporary *.
    It began with the drive to the throne of the Romanovs when they began to look for managers and a model of education in Europe. Surprisingly, even professional historians today seem to be convinced that there were no educational institutions, no culture, or advanced technologies at RUSI.
    Centuries in Romanovskaya RUSSIA destroyed the memory of the past, destroyed state archives and private collections of books, masters enslaved, giving up to the feudal serfdom. Centuries of training in Western patterns has led to the fact that we know both Egyptian and Greek culture and mythology, but we don’t know RUSSIAN. AT ALL. So some excerpts from epics that were edited before ILYA MUROMETS had already become a Christian half-sanctuary. The church claims its * leading role * in building the STATE OF RUSSIA. It publishes outright fakes having support from the state from which it is separated.
    Nothing will change until historical justice is restored in the development of the RUSSIAN-RUSSIAN EMPIRE-SOVIET UNION-RUSSIA. * Pro-Westerners * will multiply because there is nothing to oppose them.
    We even know more about ancient India than about Russia. Recently there was a publication about the battle on the Kulikovo field and again, as usual, Peresvet was called a monk. Well, how can that be?
  5. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 11 May 2018 06: 52
    +4
    in 2024, Russians following a course of stability can again elect Medvedev as president, but the West has long been hoping for a pro-Western course of this politician, inclined to reform.

    I confess that in the 2008 presidential election I voted for Medvedev, as an excuse he was supported by Putin. Well, what did President Medvedev remember, well, renaming to the police, a ban on light bulbs, leapfrog with time zones. I cannot attribute the resolution of the Georgian conflict to his merits. And most importantly, he conscientiously guarded the throne. I will never vote for Medvedev and I think most Russians also. hi
    1. karish
      karish 11 May 2018 06: 58
      +17
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      I will never vote for Medvedev and I think most Russians also.

      Putin will say - you will.
      Otherwise, the vertical will stagger - or are you against stability?
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 11 May 2018 07: 07
        +6
        Quote: karish
        Putin will say - you will.

        I didn’t vote for Putin at the last election, no need to scoff.
        Otherwise, the vertical will stagger - or are you against stability?

        If the vertical is sharpened by one person, then it will stagger in any case if it does not become. Stability say? rather manual control.
        1. karish
          karish 11 May 2018 07: 09
          +4
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          I didn’t vote for Putin in the last elections, no need to scoff

          so you're in the 23% percent.
          Menshevik !! laughing
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          If the vertical is sharpened by one person, then it will stagger in any case if it does not become.

          Putin is eternal.
          1. Anatole Klim
            Anatole Klim 11 May 2018 07: 33
            +2
            Quote: karish
            Menshevik !!

            The main thing is not a Bundist No.
            Putin is eternal.

            Yeah, like the Dalai Lama wink (last name with large).
          2. Departure
            Departure 11 May 2018 13: 03
            +4
            It’s eternal, considering that the post-factum oligarchy rules, without Putin nothing will change except for a new comfortable person on the political stage.
            1. Semen1972
              Semen1972 11 May 2018 15: 03
              +1
              Quote: departure
              It is eternal, considering that the post factum oligarchy rules

              Seriously? And who rules all of us ???
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2018 20: 17
            +2
            For some reason, the Jewish comrades are convinced that the change of power with an immature public consciousness is capable of itself changing something for the better. For what reasons it should be so - a mystery, most likely for themselves. laughing
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 11 May 2018 08: 07
        +7
        Quote: karish
        Putin will say - you will.

        Are you projecting your character on others? Well, not all the same, dear.
        Personally, I voted against GDP. It does not matter for whom, the main thing is AGAINST. Such stability disappoints me. Shake was needed. It's like after a change in the head coach, the team begins to win.
        You are there over yourself. Forsaken, so denied. What are you getting at? Nobody asked you?
        1. White and fluffy
          White and fluffy 13 May 2018 13: 41
          0
          FRIEND! AGAINST You cannot vote, the bulletin will not allow !!!
      3. Koshel2901
        Koshel2901 11 May 2018 12: 31
        0
        Have you been invited to a dialogue? Rudeness is your manner?
      4. 7gor
        7gor 13 May 2018 02: 47
        0
        Karish, not funny
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 11 May 2018 18: 06
      0
      Repent further. Who voted for March 18? There is a hunch to me what kind of “guarantor”, judging by the mood of a repentant confession. Now ten years later, tell us how disappointed you are in your choice in 2018?
      We are strange people, like not fools, at times even talented, but we are led like the last suckers.
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 11 May 2018 18: 25
        0
        Quote: NordUral
        Who voted for March 18? There’s a hunch to me what kind of "guarantor"

        At least you carefully read my comments, I replied that I didn’t vote for Putin at the last election
        Quote: karish
        Putin will say - you will.
        I didn’t vote for Putin at the last election, no need to scoff.

        Either you are not careful, or just insert a comment in a hurry without understanding, the main thing is that multiple sclerosis does not develop repeat
    3. Ksr82
      Ksr82 11 May 2018 23: 32
      0
      You will be. If there are no brains, this is forever. You just voted for Medvedev by casting your vote for Putin. If there are no brains, it’s forever.
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 12 May 2018 07: 39
        0
        Quote: Ksr82
        You just voted for Medvedev by casting your vote for Putin.

        Have you ever been able to read all my comments? Or the main thing to you is to fart in a puddle.
        I wrote, I did not vote for Putin, read above. And do not poke me shkolota.
        If there is no brain, this is forever ... If there is no brain, it is forever

        You wrote your diagnosis twice already.
    4. Deck
      Deck 13 May 2018 11: 19
      0
      Action: you will vote for Putin four times - you will receive Medvedev as a gift!
  6. Nonna
    Nonna 11 May 2018 07: 21
    +19
    Compare Stalin with Putin? The grateful people will remember Stalin forever. Putin is destined for Yeltsin.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 11 May 2018 15: 04
      +2
      Quote: Nonna
      The grateful people will remember Stalin forever. Putin is destined for Yeltsin.

      Funny ... Grateful people are 10% of pensioners? Against 86% of Putin’s supporters, from youth to retirees?
      1. Nonna
        Nonna 11 May 2018 15: 42
        +4
        Quote: Semen1972
        Against 86% of Putin’s supporters, from youth to retirees?


        Letters are also drawn on the fence ... Where did you see the livestock of Putin's supporters? Yeltsin, too, painted the numbers with the whole kagal and all the same “supporters” from the Forbes list ... And yes .... it’s funny how Putinoids were pulled with the reformer Medvedev and the builder of a bright future, Mutko.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 11 May 2018 18: 08
        +1
        Are you working hard, buddy? I would have rested, because how much you have worked for the March election company.
    2. 7gor
      7gor 13 May 2018 02: 49
      +2
      Predictor of horseradish! What awaits you?
      1. 7gor
        7gor 13 May 2018 02: 51
        +2
        This is Nonna addressed
  7. Alex_59
    Alex_59 11 May 2018 07: 31
    +12
    Both times, when Russia made "pro-Western" U-turns, it was a consequence of the fact that the previous government did not want to change and keep up with the times.
    For the first time, tsarist Russia completely stagnated in industrial terms, as well as in the issue of ideology and political structure. In the industrial era that began, the old models of power, morality, ideology and industrial development no longer meet the demands of the times. Instead of recognizing this and starting intensive reforms in line with the era, the authorities simply preserved these problems and did not notice them. As a result, the point of no return was passed and it all ended with a big explosion of the revolution.
    The second time, a very similar phenomenon occurred with the Soviet regime. Cheerfully starting and continuing, as a result, power in the USSR degraded by the 80 years. A modern model for updating the ideology and turnover of leaders has not been developed. The same thing - a failure on the ideological front, a failure of morality, plus some problems in the economy (albeit not as deep as in the Republic of Ingushetia).
    Today we are going the same way. Instead of finally working out a mechanism for changing power with a normal system of balances, the country's leader is re-electing himself and the prime minister more than once. In society, requests of a different plan have long been formed than they were in the 00 years. Yes, Putin at that time, after Yeltsin was a blessing, put things in order, drove out the oligarchs, stopped the mess in Chechnya, etc. But that was then. Thanks to him for what happened then. But now is another time. And the people are the same. If nothing changes by the good will of the authorities, sooner or later a new "boom" will occur. These are the laws of physics, you can not argue with them.
    1. Departure
      Departure 11 May 2018 18: 39
      +1
      The boom could have been made during the time of Chechen companies, but for some reason at that time our Western “partners” did not bother to sponsor and control the second stage of the collapse of the country, probably deciding that everything would work out by itself. Now other realities, the army and explosives, are on the side of the government, although it is not worthless, but is doing something. Occasionally. Plus field control. All these problems have a place to be, but the probability of a boom is small. Those in power took into account the mistakes of the past and the present and were reinsured several times.
  8. antibi0tikk
    antibi0tikk 11 May 2018 07: 39
    +5
    Well, these Western "experts" will not wait for everyone to come when Russia becomes "pro-Western." Do we need it? I will not argue, in the West there is a lot of good things and there is a lot to learn, to adopt everything in a row for a year, indiscriminately - well, it doesn’t !!! Culture, painting, etc. - very interesting; tolerance and homosexuality - let them keep it. Technologies and modern production - we are always happy to adopt something new and useful, we will not bury our production and technology for the sake of Westerners. It’s delicious and satisfying to eat - we love it, only GMOs, rotten herring and cheese with worms - no, if you please, we don’t need this.
    And so in everything.
    I really do not want that after Putin another humpbacked or deaf dancer-conductor came to power.
  9. naidas
    naidas 11 May 2018 07: 42
    +6
    "Third pro-Western turn" and the west will panama for the third time.
    Something I do not want again in the 90s
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 11 May 2018 07: 44
    +14
    Yeah ... West, there was not much to wait ... Before the elections, there was confidence that after the victory of GDP, there was no doubt about this, there would be no radical rearrangements in the government and there would be no change of course .. Everything will continue, the rich will become richer, the poor are poorer. Forbes magazine will replenish the lists of Russian millionaires ... Bourgeois will always find a common language ... Of course, the GDP for the elections should be excellent. it was made so that there was no one to vote except for him ... There is an old song, Soviet, there are such words: First think about the Motherland, and then about yourself ... Our so-called "elite" thinks more About Me...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 May 2018 08: 19
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Yeah ... West, it’s not long to wait ..... The bourgeois will always find a common language ......
      However, until such a common language is observed between them, there are different clans. Such an example, last year and the year before last, in the fall, GDP names some development figures, positive. Then, after this, officials name others, opposite, negative. Such is the setup. Before all.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 11 May 2018 18: 18
      +4
      It was not an election, but a thimble show. And there was someone to vote for, I also voted for him and the team, for Grudinin. They only stole his victory, not even a second place, but not with 10%, but somewhere close to 40-50%.
      It is a pity that Zyuganov deceived everyone, and on the neck of Grudinin drove into the Duma, which he only needed, and now he would brand the power from the rostrum of this "people's" organ. It is a pity that a strong patriotic front did not take shape, and therefore they lost.
      But it’s not yet evening, Putin and a bunch of liberals will explain to us where the crayfish hibernate and how much they are. Therefore, I hope that people will grow wiser.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2018 20: 24
        +3
        You did not understand. They needed to provide a turnout, which they brilliantly achieved. And your vote for Grudinin is a vote for one of the goals of the multi-headed capitalist hydra. Read Lenin. Power always protects the interests of the ruling class. And under capitalism, this is the bourgeoisie.
  11. solovald
    solovald 11 May 2018 09: 45
    0
    “A mixture of Brezhnev and Khrushchev” ... “a kind of corporate-kleptocratic order”

    But it’s not groundless, there is something real in them ...
  12. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 11 May 2018 09: 49
    +1
    Not her! These Western sages vang on the Russian Federation! And wishful thinking is valid! But with the ideological course, or worldview you need to be determined for a long time! This is also expected in Russia for a long time! But for now, relatively quiet. Although, in terms of liberalistic ideology, it’s already as understandable!
  13. beeper
    beeper 11 May 2018 10: 13
    +1
    “The Russian Federation, summarizes Umland, will become a“ part of the West ”, including a part of the free trade zone with the EU.” - did I alone hear clearly in the summarizing part of the article by the German-Ukrainian “analytega” (contextually winked ) - “The Russian RESERVATION”, the “sheriff” Andreas very much argues in a “Ubermenshevsky” way ?! yes
    All these West-like "Wishlist" -forked on the water! wink Now the overseas “hegemon”, in spite of possible “negative consequences” for the fate of its allies, is in full swing fueling a “hot” war in Europe and there are very few chances to avoid it. IMHO.
    So, it is quite possible that other “profitable offers” will soon sound in burned-out Berlin, while Pan Umland himself, at that time, with his only surviving hand, will dig in the trash in search of food ....?
    Although, we hope very much for a less destructive solution to the irreconcilable contradictions between the interests of sane European-Eurasian countries (pro-American barking mongrels do not count!) And the aggressive Transatlantic ...
    Threat Some kind of hunch that arose when reading this article ... by 2024, the question about DAM will disappear by itself, for some reason I saw it ... request
  14. Sagan_bator
    Sagan_bator 11 May 2018 10: 16
    +2
    1917 ... hmm, they want a Provisional Government and a civil war, interesting. However, it is expected.
  15. iouris
    iouris 11 May 2018 13: 19
    +1
    Kurginyan explained everything to you: This is Andropov’s project. The decision was made in 1979. But they cannot digest the entire USSR — they will digest in parts. (By thoroughly chewing food, you help society).
  16. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 11 May 2018 13: 46
    +1
    The separation from green is approaching!
  17. Altona
    Altona 11 May 2018 15: 04
    +4
    Quote: BecmepH
    Personally, I voted against GDP. It does not matter for whom, the main thing is AGAINST. Such stability disappoints me. Shake was needed. It's like after a change in the head coach, the team begins to win.

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    I agree with you 100%. Democracy, which turned into demagogy and idle talk. No planned work, only a situational response. The same people in power, whose abilities and level of development, even for the layman, are not a secret. Strong strangulation of the left flank. Soft fascism in the form of calls for "spiritual bonds, Orthodoxy, Russian collegiality" and other black-and-white nonsense in the spirit of "for faith, tsar and the fatherland", and the fatherland has been in power for many in Malta or Cyprus for a long time.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 15: 07
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: BecmepH
      Personally, I voted against GDP. It does not matter for whom, the main thing is AGAINST. Such stability disappoints me. Shake was needed. It's like after a change in the head coach, the team begins to win.

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      I agree with you 100%. Democracy, which turned into demagogy and idle talk. No planned work, only a situational response. The same people in power, whose abilities and level of development, even for the layman, are not a secret. Strong strangulation of the left flank. Soft fascism in the form of calls for "spiritual bonds, Orthodoxy, Russian collegiality" and other black-and-white nonsense in the spirit of "for faith, tsar and the fatherland", and the fatherland has been in power for many in Malta or Cyprus for a long time.

      And demagoguery ... laughing
    2. Nonna
      Nonna 11 May 2018 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Soft fascism in the form of calls for "spiritual bonds, Orthodoxy, Russian collegiality"


      I fundamentally disagree - you put fascism and Orthodoxy on the same level with Russian nationalism. This is already undisguised Russophobia. And so yes - your entire post is entirely demagogy
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2018 20: 32
        +1
        Your comment is sheer stupidity. If you don’t see how the moth-beaten tunic of “Russia that we lost” is trying to pull on Russia in an attempt to legitimize its looted capital, this is your problem.
  18. Altona
    Altona 11 May 2018 15: 11
    +3
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    And demagoguery ...

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    Mdaa, Mr. Kashiryanin, or are you from Lobny (Dmitrov, Domodedovo, Mytishchi) with such a lobotomy? You should go to the Ivanovo region at least in a forgotten little town and see how people live, away from megalopolises.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 15: 16
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      you ... with such a lobotomy

      You run into ...
      Quote: Altona
      Strong strangulation of the left flank. Soft fascism in the form of calls for "spiritual bonds, Orthodoxy, Russian collegiality" and other black-and-white nonsense in the spirit of "for faith, tsar and the fatherland", and the fatherland has been in power for many in Malta or Cyprus for a long time

      What is it? That's right - demagoguery. She, darling ...
      Quote: Altona
      see how people live, away from megacities

      Everywhere is different ... I have many friends, in the Russian Federation and not only.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2018 20: 38
        +1
        And what is left of us everywhere today green light? Well, tell me how the left movement flourished in recent years with the support of our state.
        That's exactly what is different and not for everyone like you have small pearls, someone else has empty cabbage soup.
    2. free
      free 11 May 2018 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      And demagoguery ...

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      Mdaa, Mr. Kashiryanin, or are you from Lobny (Dmitrov, Domodedovo, Mytishchi) with such a lobotomy? You should go to the Ivanovo region at least in a forgotten little town and see how people live, away from megalopolises.

      Don’t bother, Jack at work. He is busy making money.
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 11 May 2018 15: 26
    +1
    Quote: Anatole Klim
    in 2024, Russians following a course of stability can again elect Medvedev as president, but the West has long been hoping for a pro-Western course of this politician, inclined to reform.

    I confess that in the 2008 presidential election I voted for Medvedev, as an excuse he was supported by Putin. Well, what did President Medvedev remember, well, renaming to the police, a ban on light bulbs, leapfrog with time zones. I cannot attribute the resolution of the Georgian conflict to his merits. And most importantly, he conscientiously guarded the throne. I will never vote for Medvedev and I think most Russians also. hi

    And for Putin? wassat
  20. Plate
    Plate 11 May 2018 15: 28
    +1
    The strong EU partnership agreements with the Republic of Moldova, Ukraine and Georgia, as well as the Economic and Trade Agreement between the EU and Canada (CETA) can serve as models for creating a free trade zone from Vancouver to Vladivostok, the expert is convinced.

    And again, Western experts showed their true goal: they don’t want anything good for us, but they want from us to get a second Ukraine, which shines us with particularly close cooperation with the West (the one that the experts and those who are called liberals).
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 11 May 2018 15: 33
    +1
    Quote: Semen1972
    Quote: Nonna
    The grateful people will remember Stalin forever. Putin is destined for Yeltsin.

    Funny ... Grateful people are 10% of pensioners? Against 86% of Putin’s supporters, from youth to retirees?

    You yourself personally calculated these "86"%? lol
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  23. NordUral
    NordUral 11 May 2018 17: 56
    0
    Is Our Guarantor Stalin? Do not tell my slippers! In general, everyone is sad! How trusting and lazy our people are, everyone believes in fairy tales and promises. But you can see that he’s lying, as he has been lying for so many years. We had a chance in March, we profiled him, and now we are waiting for a denouement, so what? Or, maybe we’ll change our minds and at each election we will fight the liberal government.
  24. vladikod
    vladikod 11 May 2018 20: 59
    +1
    Another literary "onanist" predicts the way of Russia, as it were ... there in the west ... they wanted ... But, thank God, this will not happen ... Russia has its own way ...
  25. Romper Stomper
    Romper Stomper 11 May 2018 22: 01
    +1
    Quote: NordUral
    It was not an election, but a thimble show. And there was someone to vote for, I also voted for him and the team, for Grudinin. They just stole his victory ...

    Yes, they did not steal the victory from him, but he sold it to the Putinoids! However, we still have a small chance to make Grudinin appeal the election results. A petition has been posted on change.org to oblige Grudinin to turn to Bastrykin and the Supreme Court to declare the election illegal. Join the petition and you, dear, NordUral and all the other readers in!
    www.change.org/p/ппснпср-кпрф- obligate-п-н- chest
    a-appeal-to-bastrykin-and-in-supreme court / sign
  26. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 11 May 2018 23: 38
    0
    Oh, damn it ... I started reading - it smelled of something familiar. Such a marvelous analytics.
    I looked at the author - well, for sure ... I was not mistaken.
    Putin is like Khrushchev and Brezhnev. Said Fedorovsky (French).
    And Lake Baikal looks like a cucumber. I said that. And what is worse?
    I don’t understand where the author in the current RF found "Brezhnev stagnation" or even something remotely similar to him.
    Incidentally, I personally observed this stagnation. But the author - for some reason I have doubts.
    In general, minus request
  27. Normal ok
    Normal ok 12 May 2018 14: 39
    +1
    Good article. Sometimes there is an interesting analytics in VO. +
  28. Ivan Veretennikov
    Ivan Veretennikov 12 May 2018 19: 44
    0
    Rave. It would be far more westernizing when billions of oligarchs and the Central Bank flow to the West, the Dollar is the main currency. Native culture and its production - no. What else do they need? Eliminate the army? So she does not play the role of ANYTHING in the modern informational-brain and economic war. The brains of the elite, the youth are in the hands of the West, the economy is the raw materials appendage of the West. Well, what else do you want? No person in the government without the approval of the State Department can be appointed. TV channels in the hands of the 5th column imitating verbal patriotism. False formation is also under the control of Western agents. Tell me, what do you need more?
    1. White and fluffy
      White and fluffy 13 May 2018 13: 57
      0
      May there be a terrible end than horror without end!
  29. win9090
    win9090 14 May 2018 11: 52
    0
    Most likely it will.
    Here the author is right that nothing lasts forever.
  30. lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 May 2018 20: 49
    0
    Actually, and not in words, I do not see any action from the current government to increase the sovereignty of Russia.
    The authorities are not able to write even school history textbooks in a single concept (so that Vlasov doesn’t turn into a hero from a traitor in a single history textbook), juvenile justice, tolerance for sodomy are introduced into full growth, Russophobia has become the norm even in government offices , the systematic prolongation of the tax stranglehold on the neck of the poorest population of the country, raising the retirement age while half of the male population in the country does not live up to the current level of 60 years, social justice is practically raped, destroyed and they try to pass off what it doesn’t have for it no relation.

    “If only there was no war”

    there are things much worse than the hot war, and in the 90s we found out that it was “introducing into the Western world" from which we still incur losses while being enslaved to international capital. We slowly digest a frog in international capitalism, turning it into slaves forever.