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Why do American B-17 bomb the Bolshoi Theater?

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The celebration of Victory Day in 2018 was the reason for the flight of the thoughts of so-called creative designers. From different parts of the country, readers send materials about the next bloopers on posters dedicated to the anniversary of the Victory. The other day, "Military Review" published a material about posters in the city of Kurgan, full of spelling and factual errors. After a resonance in the local and all-Russian press, those posters in Kurgan were removed.


But there were others ... in other cities of Russia.

So, in Yekaterinburg, on posters under the name “Theater of the Great War” appeared, to put it mildly, a strange collage in which the American “Flying Fortresses” (Boeing B-17) for some reason dropped bombs on the Bolshoi Theater.

Why do American B-17 bomb the Bolshoi Theater?


On the poster of one of the shopping centers in honor of Victory Day, they decided to depict an American tank T26E4 Super Pershing.



The tank, which in the year 1945 was released by an experimental series of no more than 25 units, took part in only a few battles in the last days of the war. But for designers, apparently, it was he who became the symbol of Victory.

On the poster in honor of Victory Day, residents of the Tula region saw a photo of Nazi soldiers in the occupied territories.



In one of the communities of the Tula region in the social network wrote about this the following:
Among other black and white photographs on the new banner for 9 May, the Germans photo in Uzlovaya also comfortably accommodated. Perhaps, of course, this is the idea of ​​the performers, such as show history from all sides, however, the thought of another designer’s blunder involuntarily creeps in.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 10 May 2018 09: 09
    +15
    As M. Zadornov used to say - Kreakly, what to take from them! laughing
    1. Azazelo
      Azazelo 10 May 2018 09: 13
      +13
      imprisoned for ignorance and dullness for a couple of years, and if they did it as a specialist, then by 20
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 10 May 2018 09: 34
        +7
        Quote: Azazelo
        imprisoned for ignorance and dullness for a couple of years, and if they did it as a specialist, then by 20

        But, but, but, Hippo, this is repression ...
        Damn, but still - I want to .., join!
        1. your1970
          your1970 10 May 2018 09: 53
          +1
          And no one had the idea - that the Germans somehow very suspiciously stand in a heap (which is very rare in their photo), that they don’t have weapons and elements of armament / equipment, that they look kind of bruised and in general they are very strong look like prisoners ??
          Can anyone find a normal photo of them?

          Z.Y. Here Pershing / Boeing is very off topic, I agree ...
      2. st25310
        st25310 10 May 2018 13: 14
        0
        They need to be given 15 days and have an explanatory conversation about how spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater ... smile
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 10 May 2018 09: 13
      +6
      It was said earlier: Make dupaka pray to God, he will break his forehead! belay
      1. just exp
        just exp 10 May 2018 09: 25
        +1
        “Give the fool a glass member - he will break the member and cut his hands”
        And ane such creaks. they love european values
    3. Grandfather Makar
      Grandfather Makar 10 May 2018 09: 15
      +20
      And it seems to me that this is all done on purpose .. If only the Russians would spit in their hearts, because everyone knows who is in charge in these firmochki. I remember in the 80s and 90s it was with such minor dirty tricks in the media that demonic dancing and the collapse of the USSR began! Everyone then cheated and the Army in the first place
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 10 May 2018 09: 27
        +14
        Quote: Ded-Makar
        But it seems to me that this is all done on purpose.

        The number of mistakes and frank provocations suggests the same thoughts. hi
      2. Evgeny Goncharov
        Evgeny Goncharov 10 May 2018 10: 37
        0
        Do not languish! Who is in charge? Really nibira?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 10 May 2018 09: 15
      +6
      Creative conquers the mind. Medvedev remained prime minister, and he will have to hold on to "no money" for the next 6 years. Optimizes the last thing left clean.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 10 May 2018 09: 23
        +11
        this is the generation of EG that’s “working”, only they can click on the “clave” not including the brains, everything is the same for them, that T-34, that “pershing”, that yak-3, that “cobra.”, that Reichstag, Big theater... fool
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 10 May 2018 09: 58
          0
          Examination - a unified state exam.
        2. Grandfather Makar
          Grandfather Makar 10 May 2018 12: 59
          +4
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          this is the generation of EG that’s “working”, only they can click on the “clave” not including the brains, everything is the same for them, that T-34, that “pershing”, that yak-3, that “cobra.”, that Reichstag, Big theater... fool

          Check who pays them for such "mistakes", etc. (over the order)))) And much will become clear!
          They are clearly "pretending to be fools) and we supposedly believe them .. well, well
          By the way, this is everywhere in Russia and it’s not the first year ..! negative
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 10 May 2018 09: 34
        +8
        Shaw for nonsense - specially not that! Specially ordered for those who draw the wrong! Those who order those who draw the wrong ones are specially appointed responsible.! Still add sho specially chosen by those who appoint those .... and then higher and higher, higher in the food chain, where do we get ???
        Yes, just the governing system is imprisoned for increasing the number of creaks, and certainly not for that, Schaub to grow a person who thinks !!! To whom it is difficult to powder brains, and sometimes it is not possible!
        People, let's think, not turn into a herd of creaks!
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 10 May 2018 09: 40
          +8
          I saw this poster on the dam in Yekaterinburg. I asked my girlfriend’s son (13 years old) what was wrong with this poster, he replied that bombing residential buildings was bad. Of course, he didn’t understand anything about the B-17 (like his mother). When I explained that only the B-17 had such a characteristic steering wheel and it was an American plane, they told me- "well, you only understand this, few will understand what it is "
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 10 May 2018 11: 23
            +5
            Quote: DenZ
            that only B-17 had such a characteristic steering wheel and it was an American plane, they told me- "well, it’s only you who understand this, few people will understand what it is"

            Yes, there is such a tendency in modern society (and especially among young people ...) to simplify everything: “fleeting love” instead of serious relationships; one-time deals instead of many years of cooperation, this creates an atmosphere of “easy scam” in the society and prepares the society for transformation from “normal” to “society of psychopaths” ... free from feelings of shame, conscience, moral standards ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 10 May 2018 12: 20
              +1
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              Quote: DenZ
              that only B-17 had such a characteristic steering wheel and it was an American plane, they told me- "well, it’s only you who understand this, few people will understand what it is"

              Yes, there is such a tendency in modern society (and especially among young people ...) to simplify everything: “fleeting love” instead of serious relationships; one-time deals instead of many years of cooperation, this creates an atmosphere of “easy scam” in the society and prepares the society for transformation from “normal” to “society of psychopaths” ... free from feelings of shame, conscience, moral standards ...
              -
              how easy and simple ...
              And when in GOOD (!!!) Soviet films were covered with plywood at random "German !!!" tanks - that too was "such a trend in modern society (and especially among young people ...) - simplify everything "???? !!!!
              When the Yak-18 portrayed ANY Luftwaffe aircraft, and BTR-152 - any not tank Wehrmacht armored vehicles ???? !!!
              When in "They Fought for the Motherland" behind the back of Shukshin, during his monologue, "Meteor" floats - also a "modern trend and the Unified State Examination" ??? !!!
              When Ozerov went on the offensive 3 T-34s (and those 85s !!) and in the background, thank God, at least not the T-72 ???
              When the armed fascists went on the offensive MP-40 (and always with rolled-up sleeves ... there was some kind of film (Dovzhenko in my opinion or Odessa) in which the Germans in one of the scenes had steam from their mouth - but the sleeves did not roll repeat,not allowed.. )
              A fascist generals without exception with a monocle?


              It did not start yesterday, and not 20, and not even 40 years ago
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 10 May 2018 14: 45
                +3
                Quote: your1970
                It did not start yesterday, and not 20, and not even 40 years ago

                Something you confused have become a "plug with a bottle"! I am convinced that the MT-LB sheathed in plywood in the cinema and a photo of a German tank on a pedestal in a Russian city (And this happened in past years!) Are 2 big differences !!! We have known about “pseudo” -German or “pseudo-Soviet” technology in cinema for a long time, but in these cases cinematographers can be forgiven: give a discount (show condescension) on the difficulties experienced by the “illusion” (where now “take” the German T- III or Soviet T-26?), Turn on "imagination and filter out" absurdities ".... But how can (and should it be?) Forgive the German tank (self-propelled) .... yes, even American" pershing "at the festive postcard to the Victory Day on May 9, issued in a particular Russian city and which should portray a Soviet tank! who did this, there was no need to drag a real tank to Victory Square, there wasn’t even a need to look for a museum of armored vehicles! There is Internet, there are reference books, encyclopedias! It’s necessary to imagine how many “hacks” the artist “grabbed for Victory Day, wishing” immeasurably "to make money on a holiday," to confuse so! Such "artists", when they "create", do not feel gratitude to the veterans V.O.V. they don’t remember with the warmth of their fathers or front-line grandfathers ... the hack ... they’re kalym on their mind! "Good" and officials who "nevermind" what they say on a postcard, a poster ... they would like to tick off the event ... plus, not competence ...
                1. your1970
                  your1970 10 May 2018 18: 00
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  Something you confused have become a "plug with a bottle"! I am convinced that MT-LB sheathed in plywood in a movie and a photo of a German tank on a pedestal in a Russian city (And in the past years it happened!) Are 2 big differences !!! We have known about “pseudo” -German or “pseudo-Soviet” technology in cinema for a long time, but in these cases cinematographers can be forgiven: give a discount (show condescension) on the difficulties experienced by the “illusion” (where now “take” the German T- III or Soviet T-26?), Turn on "imagination and filter out" absurdities "....
                  -those. then - a discount for artists, despite the fact that half of the country then saw these German tanks / planes alive (my grandfather did not like military films (Soviet) very much because they showed linden technique.
                  And now - "Yes, it’s on purpose !!", To the count of them! "," To give 20 years !!! "...

                  The war movie of that time saw ALL population of the USSR- and all those involved in the war saw nonsense (yes, that’s exactly this word about technology !!).
                  Now, we see an abstract plane (very few can identify a Boeing, units !!) bombing the Bolshoi Theater. And this is more true. And even if we identify and tell, it will see this poster, well, 20-30 000 maximum.
                  Compare the impact of the Soviet film (which was seen by the entire population of the USSR + CMEA + foreign countries, and more than once !!) and the current poster that was seen by a thousand people (and the rest passed by like a regular billboard) ????! !!!

                  Z.Y. "Prrroklyatye snickering officials!" - NOT claim a poster in a mall with Pershing ...
                  1. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 11 May 2018 00: 40
                    +2
                    It turns out that we are talking, as it were, about different things ... Why do posters (stands) appear, where in the inscriptions in almost every word is an error? Remember what "Comrade Saahov" said? "This will be a small but responsible assignment!" Responsible! And they took responsibility with him ..... And now, it turns out, the responsibility has "disappeared" (!) ...: both in instructions, and in execution, and in demand ...
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 11 May 2018 09: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Nikolaevich I
                      It turns out that we are talking, as it were, about different things ...
                      -we are talking about the same things. Things are of the same order. If it was possible then (at "type" responsibility !!) to slander hack-work - why is it IMPOSSIBLE now?
          2. Igor V
            Igor V 10 May 2018 12: 17
            +2
            Quote: DenZ
            I saw this poster on the dam in Yekaterinburg. I asked my girlfriend’s son (13 years old) what was wrong with this poster, he replied that bombing residential buildings was bad. Of course, he didn’t understand anything about the B-17 (like his mother). When I explained that only the B-17 had such a characteristic steering wheel and it was an American plane, they told me- "well, you only understand this, few will understand what it is "

            They also tell me so often, do not bother, they say, to the little things. And the little things in my head add up to a very unpleasant puzzle, in which there is already no place for the Russians. "This is something like a contest for the best Barmaley" - this is what the hero of Leonov seems to be saying. This kind of competition is taking place in reality.
            1. The_X_Factor
              The_X_Factor 11 May 2018 15: 03
              0
              No, it is not. Because 99% just do not care what kind of tanks or planes are painted there. They can’t be influenced in this way, they just won’t wonder if the Soviet, American, or German tank is depicted. There is a cannon - tracks - a tank. It seems to be related to military equipment. That's all.
        2. novel66
          novel66 10 May 2018 09: 43
          +3
          to think, you need to read more. an immature brain kills. the kindest hi
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 10 May 2018 10: 00
            +3
            So on the Internet you can read. You go to the same "Militer" and you find there a lot of books on military subjects.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 10 May 2018 10: 31
              +3
              You can read anywhere! Sales. anything, it’s not harmful to read if the initial preparation was for the development of gray matter in the head not in terms of developing grasping functions, namely in terms of thinking, analyzing, evaluating actions, events, facts!
              Sales patriotic education is not necessary to do the most important, although it is NOT possible to forget about it, it is enough to instill \ explain for the right concepts, the ability to correctly evaluate events, etc.!
              The truth is the question arises, what is good / bad, right / wrong ??? but this category is subjective, although the absolute concepts of good and evil, for most of humanity all are the same!
              Something like this, although this is also subjective, my point of view! soldier
              1. jjj
                jjj 10 May 2018 11: 58
                +2
                But when you start explaining to the young people what stupid things come from ignorance, they quickly get involved in the process, it becomes interesting for them to be extremely accurate. But it is only smart. In the mass they say: "And so it will do." People type - hawala
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 10 May 2018 12: 17
                  +5
                  At an early age, when they have a period - I want to know everything - you can give the most necessary skills to children ... then they themselves will want to know more!
                  I try to give the pupils everything that is possible / necessary, but this is not enough, without the efforts of the parents a lot can be lost. All must work together, we must not admit that those holding power drove our children into one faceless, stupid herd!
            2. Alex_59
              Alex_59 10 May 2018 12: 50
              +1
              Quote: Sergej1972
              You go to the same "Militer" and you find there a lot of books on military subjects.

              So he wrote the "fragile" brain. Fortified something hoo how much use in the internet will find. I wouldn’t read so many books without an Internet for sure.
    5. jovanni
      jovanni 10 May 2018 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      As M. Zadornov used to say - Kreakly, what to take from them! laughing

      And you need to take it, and be sure. At least to fine for a distortion of history. This brainlessness is already tired. Both journalists, directors and writers are impressed with it. But all these figures influence the consciousness of huge masses of people. Maybe it’s not as purposeful as in Ukraine, but the result may become close to theirs ...
    6. Chever
      Chever 10 May 2018 15: 24
      0
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      As M. Zadornov used to say - Kreakly, what to take from them! laughing


      And they are also offended that they are calling them creacles smile
    7. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 12 May 2018 18: 11
      +1
      Over at our store laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 May 2018 18: 32
        +3
        But shaw, an anti-tank beater on the belt and a shmeiser, taken from the enemy ... creatively!
        It would be better if the weapon of victory was drawn into his hands, a mosquito or PPSh, PPS, and a bottle with a Molotov cocktail on his belt .... but his face is vigorous, handsome!
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 12 May 2018 19: 45
          0
          Well, the PPSh didn’t finish it, it would have been a trophy tiger from behind.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 May 2018 09: 13
    +1
    Brainless creatives. They simply do not know how to work with networks competently. Do not check information. Do not use consultants. So it turns out such crap!
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 10 May 2018 09: 13
    +7
    Too many matches suggest an overtone window
  4. victorsh
    victorsh 10 May 2018 09: 18
    0
    I thought for a long time that I had to “say” to this article. The night shift. I am glad that my son and daughter “shit” on the EGE and now (although he was handed over), one in Yenisei pairs, the second in Chkalovsky.
  5. Basil50
    Basil50 10 May 2018 09: 18
    +2
    The author correctly noted that for the sake of the picture they can expose any stupidity, but brightly and * creatively *.
    1. AUL
      AUL 10 May 2018 10: 18
      0
      One word is a creator! What to take from him?
  6. Valerevich
    Valerevich 10 May 2018 09: 19
    0
    Lack of little knowledge, slight imbecility, victims of Russian lower education ...
    1. igordok
      igordok 10 May 2018 12: 09
      +1
      Not only Russian designer managers sin.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 10 May 2018 12: 55
        +1
        Quote: igordok
        Not only Russian designer managers sin.

        Well, it's still bearable. They didn’t draw an American tank. Well, the modification made a mistake, it happens. By the way, judging by the front track roller, this is generally a post-war modernization.
      2. The_X_Factor
        The_X_Factor 11 May 2018 15: 07
        0
        What's the catch? Is it a T-34-85 or what?
        1. igordok
          igordok 12 May 2018 08: 15
          +1
          The Germans had a storm trooper, the Red Army T-34-85, during Stalingrad.
          1. The_X_Factor
            The_X_Factor 12 May 2018 14: 56
            +1
            understood thanks.
  7. NordUral
    NordUral 10 May 2018 09: 23
    +1
    So, in Yekaterinburg, on posters under the name “Theater of the Great War” appeared, to put it mildly, a strange collage in which the American “Flying Fortresses” (Boeing B-17) for some reason dropped bombs on the Bolshoi Theater.

    Why is this for some reason? Yekaterinburg has become a hotbed of American henchmen and a true liberal gadushnik with a core in the Yeltsin Center, where the Americans rule the ball.
    Although we have enough idiots, unfortunately.
  8. icant007
    icant007 10 May 2018 09: 37
    0
    Is there a body in city administrations that checks such materials before posting them in public places?
    1. The_X_Factor
      The_X_Factor 11 May 2018 15: 07
      0
      Censorship is, as it were, forbidden in Russia if you are not in the know.
      1. icant007
        icant007 11 May 2018 15: 28
        0
        How would you not understand me at all laughing
        1. The_X_Factor
          The_X_Factor 11 May 2018 15: 54
          0
          No, I understand you perfectly. Wrap something before its release = censor. Yes, like that.
          1. icant007
            icant007 11 May 2018 16: 04
            +1
            But still. In municipal administrations there is a service responsible for the preparation of public celebrations. Maybe this is a department of culture, or some committee on youth affairs. I don’t know, not the point. The bottom line is that when information materials are prepared for the holiday, the content must be agreed upon.
            But censorship in fact is everywhere where it is not necessary, and where it is necessary, it is not. Something like this.
  9. shura7782
    shura7782 10 May 2018 09: 39
    +1
    Unfortunately, this is repeated year after year on February 23 and May 9. It would be right to fine, deprive the license and work of all those who were involved in this mess.
  10. asiat_61
    asiat_61 10 May 2018 09: 50
    0
    EG walks around the country !!! Young quick managers on the march !!! Glory to the reform of education !!! Zadornov M.N. was right. Managers filled the country.
  11. Old26
    Old26 10 May 2018 09: 50
    +3
    Quote: Azazelo
    imprisoned for ignorance and dullness for a couple of years, and if they did it as a specialist, then by 20

    That's just such an article is not to be planted for ignorance and stupidity. And how do you prove that specialist? To beat in rubles is the only option so far, and even if the customer himself did not allow this blunder

    Quote: Ded-Makar
    after all, everyone knows who is in charge in these firmochki.

    And who, Vitalik ??? No need to look for enemies under the bed. The reason for such blunders has already been explained many times. And the only way is to punish the ruble.

    We had such a company, the Komsomol worker was in charge of her, I got friends, relatives of acquaintances. True stupid. Thank God, it quickly turned down, as they scored orders, but didn’t think about sharing it with anyone. "Friends" turned out to be a complete crap

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Brainless creatives. They simply do not know how to work with networks competently. Do not check information. Do not use consultants. So it turns out such crap!

    Well, you, Eugene, are not quite right. Firms (serious) try to take on specialists, sometimes luring them from competitors. They know how to work with networks. True, it does not always turn out that "young talent", well versed in networks, is also well versed in military equipment.
    How to check the information if you yourself do not understand this. Of course, blunders are like in Kurgan - it was enough to look on the network the name of the artist and how to spell "Brest Fortress". And when there are samples of equipment (if there are no signs of nationality on them) - it is not so simple. "Their" equipment in the network in massive quantities and excellent quality, and multimedia product manufacturers produce discs with such print-quality photographs. And sometimes you don’t find yours, but if you find it, you won’t put it on the banner, because the resolution is minimal.
    Consultants? This is certainly good. But where to get them? To keep a "connoisseur" of military equipment in their own state, when no one will need his consultations 2-3 times a year. Take consultants to do this work - so where to find them? In military units? So there, too, sometimes not experts, or who know only the modern.
    My belief is that you can only punish RUBLE (if the customer himself did not allow a blunder)

    Quote: Valerevich
    Lack of little knowledge, slight imbecility, victims of Russian lower education ...

    You are not always and not right in everything.
    Lack of little knowledge

    1. What knowledge does a specialist who works in a design and printing company need? Knowledge of the software that he needs to work. To be able to make a quality layout (arrange everything where necessary). Knowledge of military equipment is not obligatory. Many of them would be ready to use photographs of our technology, but the native MO is not even trying to release them, such discs. So you have to use what is

    2.
    Quote: Valerevich
    slight imbecility, victims of Russian lower education ...

    Easy imbecilism - you know, many of those who work have higher profile education, and those who do not have a higher profile are also not imbeciles. And sometimes they have vast experience. And among them, the percentage of victims of Russian education is not that great.
    Most often, they try to order such banners in a public relations firm that has just entered the market. Sometimes such firms dump prices. But the one who orders, sometimes does not care who will do it and at what price. If a very large order - then a tender is held. And in him they choose not the one who is better, but the one who offers cheaper. And if you don’t have one to order, there will be problems with regulatory authorities
  12. _TANKIST_
    _TANKIST_ 10 May 2018 09: 58
    0
    The degradation of society, youth, under the leadership of our Ministry of Education (((((!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 10 May 2018 11: 56
      +3
      What is the request of the power system, such is the minister!
      No need to say that this is an accident, it was NECESSARY!
  13. Rostislav
    Rostislav 10 May 2018 10: 17
    0
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    Hands and feet should be torn off for such mistakes, there’s still no head there.
  14. Valerevich
    Valerevich 10 May 2018 10: 25
    0
    Quote: Old26
    You are not always and not right in everything

    You know, the lack of horizons from any specialist will make a creature with blinders, he knows well what he is working with, but a complete layman in everything else.
    1. your1970
      your1970 10 May 2018 12: 52
      0
      Quote: Valerevich
      Quote: Old26
      You are not always and not right in everything

      You know, the lack of horizons from any specialist will make a creature with blinders, he knows well what he is working with, but a complete layman in everything else.
      - I congratulate you - you are "a complete ignoramus in everything else" ...
      On your avatar stands type frontier near type frontier post. Only sadness at the time of using the form of this type frontier - the pillar was generally different, i.e. absolutely - other bands with a different arrangement


      but how easy and beautiful it was broadcast - about
      Quote: Valerevich
      Lack of little knowledge, slight imbecility, victims of Russian lower education ...
      and other blah blah blah

      Z.Y. and no need for then ignorance of the artists ..... there and then it was under control, gaps in such a matter would not have been allowed
  15. Normal ok
    Normal ok 10 May 2018 10: 32
    0
    Creative designers, they are so ... creative.
  16. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 10 May 2018 10: 49
    +1
    If the case was an isolated one, one could assume an accident, but there is clearly some kind of system. Drive "talented" creaks into the neck !!!
  17. shark
    shark 10 May 2018 10: 59
    +3
    What is it about, if at the district council of veterans, there is a poster on which Panthers are bluntly depicted !!! I found this photo. It turned out - trophy. It seems there’s nothing to complain about. But I'm sorry that there were no more photos of tanks that can be placed in the collage? Suggests an idea about certain sympathies of the author of the poster or about someone’s order
  18. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 10 May 2018 11: 21
    0
    Against the background of such holiday posters, a girl from the screen of a Sberbank ATM in a military uniform with a lone star in pursuit of an ordinary looks like an innocent prank.
  19. brosai_kurit
    brosai_kurit 10 May 2018 11: 43
    0
    Generation of the exam!
  20. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 10 May 2018 11: 45
    +5
    The fact that the "train left" I realized seven years ago, when my children, having graduated from a school (in Russia), could not give an exact date for the beginning and end of the Great Patriotic War. My son, for all the time he studied at school, read, probably, with a couple of dozen "real" books, and then for the most part on computer topics. My daughter read somewhere from the heels of "real" books, and all the time, like, "read" "manga." Now they have their own, already adult life and they are "hovering" only in a career and are not at all interested in either history or the so-called "culture" ....
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 10 May 2018 12: 06
      +6
      Everything can return ... only not in this system of values, not with this system of power!
      It is ridiculous and sad to watch how agitators get puffed up from the authorities, trying to push young people into patriotic thinking, actions !!! Themselves "kill" the very foundation of our patriotic self-awareness .... everything is kept only in the memory and mood of the generation of the former, those who come from the USSR!
      1. The_X_Factor
        The_X_Factor 11 May 2018 15: 14
        +1
        These are those who ruined their USSR under hooting with jeans and McDonald's? Well, to hell with you, these patriots.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 11 May 2018 16: 01
          +4
          And you have to learn from mistakes.
          Most of the people of our country were deceived ... it wasn’t difficult, it wasn’t that they taught that people to think, more and more slogans and other agitation were repeated, and they paid for it.
          By the way, the majority still voted for the preservation of the USSR when asked! Only the supreme "leaders" put this matter. Not so much for a bright capitalist future, it hooted and rejoiced, that's for sure.
          Our generation has its own mistakes, the next makes its own ... basically the same rake, the style is different, and the result is the same!
          1. The_X_Factor
            The_X_Factor 12 May 2018 14: 57
            +1
            Yes, you are 100% right. There is somehow nothing to add.
  21. iwakura
    iwakura 10 May 2018 12: 58
    0

    1
    sv1970 (Sergey) Today, 09:53 ↑ New
    And no one had the idea - that the Germans somehow very suspiciously stand in a heap (which is very rare in their photo), that they don’t have weapons and elements of armament / equipment, that they look kind of bruised and in general they are very strong look like prisoners ??
    Can anyone find a normal photo of them?

    here is
    http://www.tulahistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&
    ; t = 6125
    these are the most natural fascists make a group photo in December 41st. So on the poster this collage is completely out of place
    1. your1970
      your1970 10 May 2018 19: 19
      0
      Alas, your link is not available .. Can you download it here?
  22. unignm
    unignm 10 May 2018 13: 20
    +1
    you just don’t need to upload about designers' defacks.
  23. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 May 2018 14: 31
    +2
    Or is it consciously? After all, people actually consider the St. George ribbon a symbol of victory, waving with a tricolor on a holiday. It seems more and more that the “regiment” is called upon to replace Victory Day over time. So these are not mistakes, they rewrite history.
  24. Old26
    Old26 10 May 2018 21: 28
    +2
    Quote: Valerevich
    Quote: Old26
    You are not always and not right in everything

    You know, the lack of horizons from any specialist will make a creature with blinders, he knows well what he is working with, but a complete layman in everything else.

    Have you often seen professionals with an outlook? And in what area? I had a colleague. Could "hell" make up, and not just a magazine or a book. At that time, 20 years of work in publishing houses, printing companies, printing houses. But what about the horizon? With the one we are talking about now - military equipment - a complete zero, but he knows literature and cinema very well. Are these blinders or not. It’s good when there is a good boss who may not interfere, but simply debug the process. And she made similar posters with the artist, but almost always attracted me because of my knowledge of military equipment.
    And in another place - in a different way. Sitting boy or girl. It can perfectly layout, but neither the head of the department, nor the director understand the technology. There you go. When you place an order on the side, there is at least a customer there. And before all this goes to work - he puts in a visa. I put a visa on a poster with the Tiger - no complaints are accepted. I didn’t set it - rework at my own expense. Therefore, in serious firms where professionals work, such mistakes are unlikely (I will not say that it does not happen at all, but not enough).
    And we are talking about blinders, about the lack of horizons ... First of all, the question arises, what kind of horizons, in what area. Or be wide profile amateur, understanding everything, but in reality nothing ??

    Quote: Vladimir K.
    If the case was an isolated one, one could assume an accident, but there is clearly some kind of system. Drive "talented" creaks into the neck !!!

    The system, fortunately, has not yet been observed, although the number of such mistakes is not single. But then it is necessary not only to draw attention to designers, but also to filmmakers and everyone else. Lyapov is also enough
  25. seacap
    seacap 11 May 2018 12: 06
    0
    The results of the destruction of the education system. Nobody answered for this crime, as well as for the killing of a power, treason and genocide of our people, all these same people in power continue to eat sweetly and sleep softly, despising their homeland and their people.
  26. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 11 May 2018 12: 28
    0
    Hollywood rules ... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I thought only in their films can SA fighters be in officer uniform and with epaulets of privates, and all of the explosives and without the letters SA on epaulets ...