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It is unreliable and dangerous. Putin agrees to "untie" the economy from the dollar

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The Russian economy needs to be untied from the dollar, whose monopoly is unreliable and dangerous for many countries of the world, said Russian President Vladimir Putin.


It is unreliable and dangerous. Putin agrees to "untie" the economy from the dollar


I agree in principle. This is not just a gap from the dollar. We are talking about the need to increase our economic sovereignty, and this is absolutely correct.
- said Putin on Tuesday in the State Duma

The President noted that in previous decades Russia had hoped to adhere to the stated principles in the field of world trade and the world economy, which was “somewhat naive”.

And now we see that the rules of the WTO are very often violated, restrictions for political reasons, which are called sanctions. And more and more are introduced, in order to secure a competitive advantage for your loved ones. How else to explain the decision, for example, in the field of aluminum and metallurgy in general? Only by this really
- Putin said.

Putin, in particular, stressed that Russia will continue to diversify its gold and foreign exchange reserves.

But this is such a very subtle calm setting, we will continue to move in this direction
said the president.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 8 May 2018 19: 53
    +50
    The Russian economy needs to be untied from the dollar, whose monopoly is unreliable and dangerous for many countries of the world, said Russian President Vladimir Putin

    And not only the Russian economy should be untied from the dollar. It's time for the mattresses to feel how to live within their means and only at their own expense.
    1. Logall
      Logall 8 May 2018 19: 55
      +36
      Quote: NEXUS
      And not only the Russian economy must be untied from the dallar.

      Let others do this already! Enough for someone to solve problems ... We can help by example. A good example is an example to follow! It’s necessary not to fix this path ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 May 2018 19: 56
        +24
        Quote: Logall
        Let others do this already!

        This is our whole problem. They work together, and we are apart. They all pile on one whole, and the rest look and lament, -Contain, it can cost. You do not remember the parable about the broom, no?
        1. Logall
          Logall 8 May 2018 19: 59
          +20
          Quote: NEXUS
          They work together, and we apart

          They only hammer together, and their money apart ...
          An example of this fable is this:
          The crowd is even extinguished by a lion.
          But that example is bad, believe me -
          The crowd is extinguished only by devils!
          1. cniza
            cniza 8 May 2018 20: 43
            +31
            Not even eleven years had passed ...
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 8 May 2018 21: 04
              +4
              FINALLY !!!
              But I did not understand about the "defirmation of gold and foreign exchange reserves" ... sad
              Currency diversification is the exchange of an unreliable currency for a reliable one. Diversification of foreign exchange reserves - sale of gold ...
              Um ...
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 8 May 2018 21: 09
                +17
                Quote: Shurik70
                Gold and foreign exchange reserves diversification - gold sale

                Um ... Would you read the Internet or something before writing such nonsense here.
                This is not a collision, this is good advice.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 8 May 2018 21: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  This is not a collision, this is good advice.

                  And I myself admit that in financial terms not an expert (even sofa).
                  Just on the Internet and climbed
                  https://studopedia.org/9-124813.html
                  Diversification of foreign exchange reserves is carried out by selling unstable currencies and buying more stable ones, as well as currencies necessary for international payments

                  Who understands what "defersification of gold and foreign exchange reserves" means? They would explain, otherwise Google didn’t help drinks
                  1. maxim947
                    maxim947 8 May 2018 21: 35
                    +4
                    Foreign exchange reserves consist of funds in foreign currency, special drawing rights and monetary gold itself, and most likely we are talking about currency - the equivalent of gold, which must be changed. In other words, the state has a million dollars and this corresponds to the current rate of 1 kg. gold, after diversification will be 1 million yuan for some amount of gold.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 8 May 2018 21: 42
                      +3
                      I understand this is also an assumption? Or exact knowledge?
                      Damn, Velichko is right. In no science, as in finance, so many terms are invented that would eventually confuse ordinary people.
                      If he simply said “get rid of unwanted currencies”, everything would be clear (although it is not clear which currencies, and in what quantities). But the "defersification of gold and foreign exchange reserves" ... But the people of Google are not Google, it’s still not clear sad
                      1. maxim947
                        maxim947 8 May 2018 21: 59
                        +3
                        I wrote what these reserves consist of, what I meant by GDP - I can’t know, I can only assume))))) In this case, it seems to me, with a high degree of probability)
                  2. Awaz
                    Awaz 9 May 2018 07: 39
                    +2
                    from these phrases, if only conclusions are drawn, it means - to reduce the number of bucks in the volume of ZVZ and buy, for example, RMB or the same Euro. In general - in ZVZ have the maximum money of those partners with whom the most contacts are in the economic sphere.
                  3. vitalyzaq
                    vitalyzaq 9 May 2018 11: 16
                    +1
                    Diversification is an investment approach aimed at minimizing risks associated with the distribution of finances. If in simple words, then - "you do not need to store all the eggs in one basket." For example: divide all reserves into 10, 15, or maybe more parts and invest each part in different instruments (gold, dollars, euros, rubles, yuan, yen, pounds, francs, stocks, bonds, etc.). The point is that if one of the tools crashes, it will not cause much damage to the overall portfolio of reserves. And if you simply replace one tool with another, then the risks will still be high.
                    1. maxim947
                      maxim947 9 May 2018 16: 10
                      0
                      Reserves are already divided, they just want to reduce the percentage of some of them.
                  4. AVGUST
                    AVGUST 10 May 2018 07: 49
                    0
                    Although I’m a lawyer, but as far as I understand, I’ll answer: like, we sell our oil and gas for bucks, and then we buy gold for these bucks, folding them into our little capsules, in principle, everything is logical, especially since both goods are even traded not in Euros or Pounds, namely in dollars, but not like Zimbabwean, namely, the country of magic elves, called the USA
            2. Friday
              Friday 9 May 2018 02: 11
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              Not even eleven years had passed ...

              We will untie the dollar, tie it to the yuan, like a Russian proverb, from the fire and into the fire.
              This is the hundredth time I’ve said for the first time, while in Russia there is no pharmaceutical independence, as in China and in Vietnam, nothing will budge.
        2. ANCIENT
          ANCIENT 8 May 2018 20: 01
          +8
          Andrey, Alexander, welcome !!! hi About 15 years ago it was necessary to untie the ruble from the dollar !!!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 May 2018 20: 06
            +13
            Quote: ANCIENT
            About 15 years ago it was necessary to untie the ruble from the dollar !!!

            30 years ago it was not necessary to peg the ruble to the dollar ... Under the USSR, nobody pegged anything ...
            1. Yu-81
              Yu-81 8 May 2018 20: 36
              +12
              Well, not 30, but 58. In 1961, Khrushchev (burning in hell) transferred the ruble to the perimeter of the dollar.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 8 May 2018 20: 38
                +2
                Quote: yu-xnumx
                Well, not 30, but 58. In 1961, Khrushchev (burning in hell) transferred the ruble to the perimeter of the dollar.

                Thanks for the correction ... hi But horseradish radish is not sweeter now.
            2. Awaz
              Awaz 8 May 2018 21: 48
              0
              The USSR created the so-called Eurodollar ... and after that the dollar was imposed cruelly on the whole world ..
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 May 2018 20: 06
          +8
          Quote: NEXUS
          You do not remember the parable about the broom, no?

          We are not a broom, we are deaf. And this deafness has already flown to different communities.
          But they constantly try to inspire us with the idea that it is embarrassing to be shameful, and we need to thin out in order to become a twig of a tattered, garbage broom. hi
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 May 2018 20: 09
            +6
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            We are not a broom, we are shafting

            Nobody dragged us by force into this financial system. We set ourselves up under the yoke. Stalin perfectly understood how this could end, and therefore sent these financiers on a pornographic journey.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 8 May 2018 20: 14
              +4
              No wonder the sunset began with the Khrushchev thaw. request
            2. SOF
              SOF 8 May 2018 20: 41
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              Nobody dragged us by force into this financial system. We set ourselves up under the yoke. Stalin perfectly understood how this could end, and therefore sent these financiers on a pornographic journey.

              ... do not turn history around ... Vissarionovich was a great person, but only a person who is prone to err. And it was under his leadership, in 1944, that the USSR agreed to the Bretton Woods Accords, which buried the Golden Standard principle and released the dollar into free, globally convertible navigation all over the planet.
              ... in the end, we have what we have ...
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 8 May 2018 20: 49
                +10
                Quote: SOF
                And it was under his leadership, in 1944, that the USSR agreed to the Bretton Woods Agreement

                What year? 1944? This is when the war was on and the question was about the survival of the country? That's when it ended. Stalin refused to ratify this heresy. He planned to return to the gold standard, but did not have time.
                1. SOF
                  SOF 8 May 2018 20: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  This is when the war was on and the question was about the survival of the country? That's when it ended. Stalin refused to ratify

                  ... in a year, it was about the survival of the country ?????? in the 44th? Do not confuse anything ????
                  ... and then .... who cares what was ratified there .... then, and what was not ......
                  .... the greatest power, bent to a certain position of the one who had bent all over Europe before, agreed ............... who needed ratification ..... ????
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 8 May 2018 22: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: SOF
                    in the 44th? Confuse nothing

                    The German army was still not defeated, in addition, the option was not excluded that Britain and the United States would make peace with Hitler and unite against the USSR.
                    Quote: SOF
                    and then .... who cares what was ratified there .... then, and what wasn’t

                    Ratification (lat. Ratificatio, from lat. Ratus - resolved, approved and facere - to do) is the process of giving legal force to a document (for example, an agreement) by approval of it by the relevant body of each of the parties. Prior to ratification, such a document, as a rule, has no legal force and is not obligatory for the non-ratifying party. However, the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties instructs a state that has signed an international treaty, pending ratification or refusal of it, to refrain from actions depriving the document of "object and purpose", that is, clearly contrary to those tasks that it is intended to solve.
                2. urman
                  urman 9 May 2018 07: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  That's when it ended. Stalin refused to ratify this heresy. He planned to return to the gold standard, but did not have time.

                  And somehow strange died.
                  So vague doubts torment me.
                  All the rulers who wanted or refused green paper,
                  Somehow they quickly moved into another world.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 9 May 2018 10: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: urman
                    And somehow strange died.

                    Personally, I also think that they helped him, but if so, we are unlikely to find out the truth.
        4. 210ox
          210ox 8 May 2018 20: 24
          +7
          Our problem is that let’s say tomorrow Medvedevs and Silouans come and blow the president’s ears completely different ...
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Logall
          Let others do this already!

          This is our whole problem. They work together, and we are apart. They all pile on one whole, and the rest look and lament, -Contain, it can cost. You do not remember the parable about the broom, no?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 8 May 2018 21: 55
            +3
            tomorrow the Medvedevs and Siluanovs will come and blow the president’s ears
            They have already come and are blowing. Perhaps this performance, from the fact that someone has already cheated.
          2. Awaz
            Awaz 9 May 2018 07: 46
            +2
            Putin’s idea does not require any complex reforms or changes in economic policy. He simply suggests storing more money in RMB and Euro and cutting back in the Bucks. Siluanov and everyone else did not give a damn about it, and there was no need to do anything. And especially this will not affect the general economic situation.
            Another thing is to force the EU and China to trade with the Russian Federation and for the Rubles and the Euro and the Yuan, completely ignoring the dollar. That would be aerobatics. But for this it is necessary to have iron eggs, a ward and in general to be able to work
        5. freddyk
          freddyk 8 May 2018 21: 38
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          You do not remember the parable about the broom, no?


          This parable had to be recalled in the 91st. Now it’s too late to drink Borjomi.
        6. Skif83
          Skif83 9 May 2018 07: 16
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          This is our whole problem. They work together, and we are apart. They all pile on one in a row, and the rest look and lament, -Contain, it can cost.

          Well, the USSR then survived in the 20-30s of the last century, and the ruble was GOLD and convertible, and we had horseradish and horseradish friends. And all alone, and the initial conditions after a devastating civil war are much worse. Nothing, survived, built, fought back, we were left, but we asked ... whether.
          Regarding the words GDP: "
          I agree in principle. This is not just a gap from the dollar. We are talking about the need to increase our economic sovereignty, and this is absolutely correct.
          Not too long - 18 years to understand such things? Only now it dawned, or what?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 9 May 2018 10: 51
            0
            Quote: Skif83
            Well, the USSR then survived in the 20-30s of the last century, and the ruble was GOLD

            Then there was still no modern unipolar system.
            Quote: Skif83
            not too long - 18 years to understand such things? Only now did it come to mind?

            Let's just say, only now have Caliber, Dagger, etc.
          2. Victor N
            Victor N 9 May 2018 11: 41
            +2
            All the other 18 years, too, did not catch up, were silent in a rag? For certain actions and even just statements, conditions must mature. Stocks of the country - this is very serious! And 18 years is a short period.
            The 20-30s were dashing times, our native famines and hardships sipped. And at the same time did not dare to utter a peep! It is now full of bold to anonymity!
      2. dorz
        dorz 8 May 2018 20: 03
        0
        It is about the need to increase our economic sovereignty, and this is absolutely correct

        Perhaps it is about creating a Russian cryptocurrency, there has been talk for a long time.
      3. Safevi
        Safevi 8 May 2018 20: 03
        +18
        Pure populism! It is not so easy to abandon the currency, whose country produces almost 25% of the world production. Many tried, but did not achieve anything. To do this, they need only a strong, but the STRONGEST economy, and, moreover, independent.
        1. Ural resident
          Ural resident 8 May 2018 20: 09
          +3
          Or several large states should do the same.
          In the meantime, the dollar is such that many people want to get rid of it, but they have to invest in it, since this is the only way to save their "savings", well, or in gold, but it is not infinite ...
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 8 May 2018 20: 13
          +7
          But you are a well-known analyst, you probably know everything about populism of any purity. Use the dollar further. :)
        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 8 May 2018 20: 19
          +5
          Quote: sefevi
          whose country produces almost 25% of WORLDWIDE products.

          Where does this figure come from? recourse
        4. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 8 May 2018 20: 19
          +2
          Quote: sefevi
          Pure populism! It’s not so easy to abandon the currency whose country produces almost 25% of the WORLD production ...

          You would not put yourself smarter than the USSR State Planning Commission ... laughing To begin with, the entire Foreign Ministry shobla, which wipes the pants at the consulates, must study with each country in which they are located, their readiness to switch to mutual settlements in trade. With China, Russia can do it. Here, the turnover is mutual and interest. And countries that want to get rid of the dollar will not have to search. Here everything will be decided by mutual benefit.
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 9 May 2018 07: 52
            +1
            Those who wish may find it, but there will not be those who would like to trade for a currency that has no stability. In the West, they work at a margin of 1-2 percent and all these fluctuations of the ruble can be unraveled and their stability and plans difficult to build in such a situation and therefore no one will risk it.
            For such cases as under Stalin, a chervonets is needed, tied cruelly to some kind of product, the pricing of which the Russian Federation could at least somehow influence. But nobody will do it. Since it is very difficult.
        5. mole
          mole 8 May 2018 20: 45
          +1
          Quote: sefevi
          Pure populism! It is not so easy to abandon the currency, whose country produces almost 25% of the world production. Many tried, but did not achieve anything. To do this, they need only a strong, but the STRONGEST economy, and, moreover, independent.

          About 20-10 years ago, I would agree with you. But experience is the son of difficult mistakes, "Colossus on feet of clay!
        6. Dart2027
          Dart2027 8 May 2018 20: 50
          +2
          Quote: sefevi
          whose country produces almost 25% of the world production

          USA? Only on paper.
        7. Barnaul, Altai
          Barnaul, Altai 8 May 2018 20: 58
          +3
          This is how such calculations the US economy takes 25% ???
          That's right: American!
          By independent - 18%!
          But there it is considered wrong. It has long been proven that US GDP is completely falsified data.
          Their dollar hold on to military bases, and only ...
        8. Senior manager
          Senior manager 8 May 2018 22: 33
          0
          Quote: sefevi
          Pure populism!

          Without a deadline for giving up the dollar, this is not populism, but the adoption of a course. The countries of the world that the FSA are bending with the help of the dollar have also proclaimed a course of rejection and the transition to settlements in the nat. currencies. The process of ignoring the dollar is long enough and where you noticed populism, I don’t understand.
        9. akims
          akims 9 May 2018 00: 06
          0
          Nonsense! It is proved that not 25%, but a maximum of 5%, and even that is not a fact!
      4. Vanek
        Vanek 9 May 2018 10: 31
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        We can help with an example. A good example is an example to follow! It’s necessary not to fix this path ...


        A negative example is also an example. It shows how not to do it.

        Alexander hi
    2. BZTM
      BZTM 8 May 2018 19: 58
      +2
      untie the economy from the dollar
      Many countries have been dreaming about this for a long time, but so far no one has succeeded in putting it into practice.
      1. mole
        mole 8 May 2018 20: 51
        +1
        Quote: BZTM
        untie the economy from the dollar
        Many countries have been dreaming about this for a long time, but so far no one has succeeded in putting it into practice.

        Which of them lacked the spirit and sovereignty? Hussein and Gaddafi had enough spirit, but lacked sovereignty, We had enough spirit, and there is doubly something to answer for sovereignty.
      2. Extraneous
        Extraneous 8 May 2018 21: 22
        +2
        Gaddafi tried.
    3. Looking Petrovich
      Looking Petrovich 8 May 2018 19: 59
      +6
      Nonsense. If untie the dollar, then why bind? Nobody needs rubles in the world. Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.
      1. Bok tubres
        Bok tubres 8 May 2018 20: 04
        +14
        Do not worry. There are no fools sitting. If you decide to "untie", then why "tie", have also decided.
        1. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 8 May 2018 21: 08
          +7
          Change awl for soap:
          Quote: Bok Tubres
          Do not worry. There are no fools sitting. If you decide to "untie", then why "tie", have also decided.

          I wonder how he is going to abandon the dollar, if the main export is paid in dollars? Says we do not need dollars, give us the ruble? As the man wrote above, this is open populism in order to divert all views from Medvedev’s appointment as prime minister. They will not make a detachment from the dollar, but Ayfonych will remain and everything will calm down
          1. Bok tubres
            Bok tubres 8 May 2018 21: 16
            +1
            Everyone is interested, believe me. We will trade with those who are ready, like us, to use, when paying, anything but a dirty green paper.
            For “Dimona”, of course, sadness. But, nevertheless, upon reflection, he came to the conclusion that it was too early to sprinkle ashes on his head. I hope, nevertheless, for Putin.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 May 2018 21: 15
          0
          Most likely the transition will be to the Euro.
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 8 May 2018 22: 39
            +3
            Quote: Vadim237
            Most likely the transition will be to the Euro.

            There will be a real transition not only to the euro, China has taken care of its yuan to make greens a competitor, Russia in this matter, I think it will help.
            1. Aleks2048
              Aleks2048 8 May 2018 23: 33
              +1
              China does not want to strengthen the yuan. This is economically contraindicated for him. I think that China sees the yuan as a kind of transit currency connecting the raw materials of Africa, the energy sector of the Russian Federation, its labor resources and the money of Europe and the United States, and for this the yuan should not be strong, for this the Russian Federation and Africa should simply love the yuan more than a dollar and a euro.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 May 2018 20: 12
        +6
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.

        What, right after all, and with the money? Seriously, huh? Have you forgotten to think? Does the concept of the word "Gold Standard" mean anything to you? Is linking the issue of national currency to the country's gold reserves, and not to the dollar, not fate? fool The dollar is promoted by either US patriots or traitors to Russia.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 May 2018 20: 18
          +3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Looking Petrovich
          Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.

          What, right after all, and with the money? Seriously, huh? Have you forgotten to think? Does the concept of the word "Gold Standard" mean anything to you? Is linking the issue of national currency to the country's gold reserves, and not to the dollar, not fate? fool The dollar is promoted by either US patriots or traitors to Russia.

          Do you consider realists? wassat
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 May 2018 20: 23
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            Do you consider realists?

            They can be realistic only if they have a dollar income. wink
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 8 May 2018 20: 34
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: Svarog
              Do you consider realists?

              They can be realistic only if they have a dollar income. wink

              not necessarily, it was either a traitor to the motherland or a US patriot, so there are also realists between him wassat Those who think soberly and understand that all these statements are pure populism ..
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 8 May 2018 21: 02
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                Those who think soberly and understand that all these statements are pure populism ..

                Ah, you’ve come from far away! bully I also don’t believe in these tales. drinks
            2. Extraneous
              Extraneous 8 May 2018 21: 34
              +1
              The dollar held in his hands in the 94th - one dollar. But not the point. The bottom line is that a groove entering the global financial system cannot get out of it bloodlessly. In general, if you are interested in this issue, almost immediately after the collapse of the USSR, preparations began for the global financial system to switch to another currency. A simple, seemingly, transfer of your financial system to the “gold standard” of any of the major players in the international market threatens with a complete collapse of the entire global financial structure and, as a result, with such a bloody bath that no state can survive. The process is ongoing and will be long.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 9 May 2018 06: 55
                +1
                Quote: Stranger
                The process is ongoing and will be long.

                Plus for hope, but still, the state’s internal policy is not optimistic. request For action is not visible at all. Around us again there are only enemies, and this is with smaller territories. Under the Union, the subjects of the RSFSR did not have the right to secede; now, the constituent entities of the Russian Federation have a legal background for secession from the country. Economically, we are still dependent on the pipe, and the government is more concerned with delivering gas to Europe and China, and not to its citizens.
                Import substitution is in fact a zilch. Announced auto and aircraft industry news collected more than half of imported spare parts. The experience of Stalin's industrialization and the Chinese economic miracle is not a decree for "our" government.
                So there was no optimism, and no. And probably will not. hi
      3. rammjager
        rammjager 8 May 2018 20: 13
        +3
        Do you need gas and oil? If you look at the ruble, it will turn out to be convertible.
        1. rammjager
          rammjager 8 May 2018 20: 17
          +5
          In general, some kind of deja vu. Once it was already: to refuse dllar, all payments are in rubles. About three years ago, not?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 8 May 2018 20: 19
          +3
          Quote: rammjager
          Do you need gas and oil? If you look at the ruble, it will turn out to be convertible.

          What still has not been? wassat
          1. rammjager
            rammjager 8 May 2018 20: 23
            +1
            So this question is not addressed. This is in ... I'm afraid to even say to the Kremlin.
          2. rammjager
            rammjager 8 May 2018 20: 25
            0
            In general, my friend, the ruble was once a very solid currency. True, the water has since flowed ...
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 8 May 2018 20: 31
              +5
              Quote: rammjager
              In general, my friend, the ruble was once a very solid currency. True, the water has since flowed ...

              Yes, my friend the world has changed a lot since then and the reality is that the dollar is the most stable currency to date and in the near future, at least 30 years old. And all these statements, pure populism ..
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 8 May 2018 21: 06
                +3
                Quote: Svarog
                Since then, the reality is that the dollar is the most stable currency today and in the near future, at least 30 years old. And all these statements, pure populism ..

                Avona how laughing the super-patriot, both thinking and sane, drowns for the American dollar. laughing But what about Zyuganov and Grudinin, they are patriots, not communists, but social democrats, laughing Well, that’s quietly opening up, feel free gentlemen, the Social Democrats, the language does not turn you to call the Communists. laughing Well done good we burn further the health-conscious and clever slogans. laughing
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 8 May 2018 21: 54
                  +5
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  Avon as a super patriot and thinking and sane drowns for the American dollar. But what about Zyuganov and Grudinin, they are patriots, not communists, but social democrats, well, they are opening up quietly, easy lady gentlemen, the social democrats, the language does not turn you to call you communists. Well done, we burn further the health-conscious and clever slogans.

                  I’m a realist in the first place .. you’ve mixed everything up a bit .. what does the dollar have to do with it and that I support the ideas of socialism? Objectively, the dollar is now the most stable currency .. or do you want me to scream because of patriotic feelings that this is not a dollar but a ruble wassat it’s strange how things are with your logic .. but the desire to expose .. to find the enemy you see is overlapping reason hi
                  1. Alex-a832
                    Alex-a832 9 May 2018 06: 38
                    +2
                    Quote: Svarog
                    I’m a realist in the first place .. you’ve mixed everything up a bit .. what does the dollar have to do with it and that I support the ideas of socialism? Objectively, the dollar is now the most stable currency .. or do you want me to scream because of patriotic feelings that this is not a dollar but a ruble

                    It's funny The reality is that the dollar is virtually not provided with anything - a soap bubble that feeds the economy of a country hostile to us. The decision to get rid of the dollar in our country - one of the largest suppliers of hydrocarbons - is a threat to the petrodollar, i.e. a big nail in the coffin of an American freebie. What could be more patriotic for a Russian than weakening the economy of our real enemy? In short: I see neither realism, nor patriotism in your arguments.
      4. Svarog
        Svarog 8 May 2018 20: 17
        +4
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Nonsense. If untie the dollar, then why bind? Nobody needs rubles in the world. Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.

        I agree with you, pure populism ..
        1. mole
          mole 8 May 2018 20: 54
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          I agree with you, pure populism ..

          Many - many considered populism, but the impossible - is possible if it seeks the impossible!
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 8 May 2018 21: 06
            +4
            Quote: Mole
            Quote: Svarog
            I agree with you, pure populism ..

            Many - many considered populism, but the impossible - is possible if it seeks the impossible!

            and this is demagogy laughing
            1. mole
              mole 8 May 2018 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              and this is demagogy

              It is logical, but the vector of politics in countries in the former Union republics does not resemble anything? 15 years ago IT was impossible!
      5. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 8 May 2018 20: 23
        +1
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Nonsense. If untie the dollar, then why bind? Nobody needs rubles in the world. Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.

        And gold certificates are no longer held in high esteem? You can cook up such a bank that the Americans simply burst and remain with their paper.
        Just imagine that tomorrow the USA disappeared (natural disaster, earthquake, volcano) ... and ??? What is the dollar and who will take it as a reserve currency.
      6. SOF
        SOF 8 May 2018 20: 47
        +5
        . Looking Petrovich ... Bullshit. If you untie the dollar, then why bind



        ... look carefully at the picture, and if you find familiar letters, then read .... bully
        ... everything has been invented a long time ago ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 May 2018 20: 55
          +4
          Quote: SOF
          ... everything has been invented a long time ago ...

          ... and long ago buried.
          By the way, in the USSR, providing money with gold, etc., was purely nominal — entering the bank and receiving a little gold at face value in exchange for gold coins was ... impossible, oddly enough.
          Quote: SOF
          if you find familiar letters, then read

          Paper endures everything - do you know that? Your picture is just another illustration of this folk wisdom.
          1. SOF
            SOF 8 May 2018 21: 05
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            By the way, in the USSR, providing money with gold, etc., was purely nominal — entering the bank and receiving a little gold at face value in exchange for gold coins was ... impossible, oddly enough.

            ... really .... it was impossible to exchange for a gold bar, but to buy gold products, at the equivalent of the value of gold in rubles, was not at all problematic ....
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 8 May 2018 21: 07
              +1
              Quote: SOF
              to buy gold products, according to the equivalent value of gold in rubles - it was not at all problematic

              Ahem ... have you tried it yourself, or did someone tell you?
              Spit in the person who said. Gold was considered a luxury item (like carpets, cars, etc.), and the extra charge was there ... well, very inhumane.
              I myself remember that, like ...
              1. SOF
                SOF 8 May 2018 21: 16
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Ahem ... tried it yourself, or someone told you

                ... I haven’t tried it myself - not by rank yet, but in the late USSR, far before the collapse, after visiting the jewelry "funnel" I didn’t drive up to the porch ....
        2. Raf01
          Raf01 8 May 2018 23: 57
          0
          I’ll tell you a little secret, all world gold (including McKenna gold) is not enough to provide even the Russian (ruble) money supply. And there is a lot more money in the world. Either gold should cost orders of magnitude more expensive, or money should be less. Today, gold is replaced by technology, and here we are not doing well with this.
      7. Igor V
        Igor V 8 May 2018 20: 53
        0
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Nonsense. If untie the dollar, then why bind? Nobody in the world needs rubles.]

        No need to reinvent the wheel. At the dawn of the "new" Russia, the program of Leningrad economists was when the "500 days" and so on. And there was a special section in it about the ruble. At that time, only 4 countries could provide gold and other valuables to their currency: Russia, Japan, South Africa, I don’t remember the fourth, but not the USA. It was proposed to introduce a free exchange of the Katenek type and a draconian tax on the export of precious metals across the border. Everything was meticulously calculated and the prospects were bright, that is, the dollar collapsed after a small number of years. But, miraculously, the Soros program was adopted, in which the ruble had no place.
      8. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 8 May 2018 21: 51
        +4
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Nonsense. If untie the dollar, then why bind? Nobody needs rubles in the world. Or, as in the old days, merchants will ride with money of gold.

        Stupidity. We take a 10 ruble banknote from 1909 and read paragraph 2 "The state credit card is circulated throughout the empire along with a gold coin" .... Have you seen that gold coin? Imperial weight 8,6 g. in which the gold content of 900 samples is equal to 7,74 grams. For this banknote, women with low social responsibility, even in Paris, even in New York, worked out with more excitement than for a buck, pound or franc, due to the fact that they are much better versed in currency than stock brokers. This is not to mention those who did business with Russia. Today I am collecting 675 rubles in the tsar’s banknotes, but they’ve fallen — it would be better if they were in the tsar’s gold coinage than on paper ..... Although the manager Konshin, even today, is still worth something. V.I. Lenin in 1921 launched the minting of a silver coin, not because people ate caviar from silver utensils, but because for any machine tool from the capitalist, we could ship 900 silver samples. The United States already at that time was trying to ban trade with Russia for drag metal, insisting that the councils pay grain, which should be taken from the population, but there were still those who wanted silver. So GDP is doing the right thing in terms of increasing gold reserves. Iran, being under sanctions for more than 25 years, was trading not for bucks, but for gold. After lifting the sanctions and lifting the arrest from Iranian accounts, Iran did not be a fool to pump over "rehabilitated" American bucks in excess of 100 billion euros, pounds, yuan and gold, which mattresses did not like much and they decided to punish Ayatollah for contempt for Baku. And then there’s the GDP "fired" with such a statement ... Mattresses will be spaced apart ...
      9. Raf01
        Raf01 8 May 2018 23: 44
        +1
        Well, some people do not understand that it is not the dollar that is growing, but the ruble that is falling. And it falls in relation to all currencies: dollar, euro, yuan, yen .... etc. The purchasing power of the ruble in the foreign market (in any) is falling. What does the dollar have to do with it?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 May 2018 23: 49
          +1
          Quote: Raf01
          ... The purchasing power of the ruble in the foreign market (in any) is falling ...

          Please show me the "external" market, where something is generally possible buy for rubles?
          1. Raf01
            Raf01 9 May 2018 00: 18
            0
            Nobody will sell you anything for rubles in the foreign market. There are small swap agreements that do not make any weather. But when buying imported goods on the domestic market for rubles (for example, any telephone), you pay taking into account the external exchange rate of the ruble against other currencies. Because someone brought this phone to you, paid a currency for it, and before that, he bought this currency on the exchange (or somewhere else) for rubles. Why no one will sell anything for rubles? Over the past 20 years (this is a short period), the real value of the ruble has fallen 10 times, over the past 100 years, more than 1 million times.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 May 2018 00: 22
              0
              Quote: Raf01
              buying in the domestic market imported goods for rubles ..., you pay taking into account external ruble exchange rate against other currencies

              The crossed out word is superfluous.
              There is no “external” ruble exchange rate in nature, there is a Central Bank exchange rate and commercial banks dancing from it.
              Quote: Raf01
              Why no one will sell anything for rubles?

              Because rubles outside of the Russian Federation, as a rule, nobody cares.
              Attempts to at least somehow change the situation - for example, the launch of oil futures on SPIMEX - have somehow not yet "taken off", unfortunately.
              1. Raf01
                Raf01 9 May 2018 00: 42
                0
                Then what currency has an “external” rate? Currency is traded on the exchange, not the Central Bank. And so with any currency, well, except for the North Korean won (they have Juche there).
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 May 2018 00: 58
                  0
                  Quote: Raf01
                  Then what currency has an “external” rate?

                  Not at any.
                  There is a local currency of the state. In every self-respecting state.
                  There are rates of other currencies for which (currencies) and at which (rate) the local currency can be exchanged by this state, in relation to this local currency.
                  "External course" is yours, ahem, your own invention request
                  Quote: Raf01
                  Currency is traded on the exchange, not the Central Bank

                  The local currency rate in relation to other currencies is set by the Central Bank. And no one else.
                  That's something like yes
                  1. Raf01
                    Raf01 9 May 2018 14: 16
                    0
                    You somehow poorly understand the functions of the Central Bank. The price of a certain currency in the country rises or falls during exchange trading. The Central Bank during the bidding process can (on a very limited scale) regulate the exchange rate by buying or selling this currency. "Central Bank Rate" is just fixing the exchange rate at 12.00 of a trading day and is valid until 12.00:XNUMX of the next trading day. The Central Bank itself has never set a course, and will not. Forgive me, but what you wrote is heresy ...
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 9 May 2018 14: 35
                      0
                      Quote: Raf01
                      Excuse me, but ...

                      Quote: GARANT.RU
                      The Bank of Russia is engaged in establishing official exchange rates against the ruble. (Article 53 of the Federal Law of July 10, 2002 No. 86-ФЗ "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)")


                      By the way, I never wrote that the Central Bank arbitrarily determines exchange rates. Try to feel already ... the difference yes
                      Quote: Raf01
                      "Central Bank rate" is just fixing the exchange rate ...

                      The Central Bank has a lot of ways to influence the exchange rate: from regulating the composition of bidders to suspending these trades. And this is not a complete list of these mechanisms.
                      Quote: Raf01
                      what you wrote is heresy

                      OK. So be it.
                      You better tell us about the "external ruble exchange rate ... a connoisseur of currency regulation laughing
                      1. Raf01
                        Raf01 9 May 2018 14: 53
                        0
                        Stop digging into one word "external."
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        The local currency rate in relation to other currencies is set by the Central Bank. And no one else. Something like this

                        So the Central Bank sets the course or not? Yes or no?
                      2. Raf01
                        Raf01 9 May 2018 14: 56
                        0
                        I'm going to fry the barbecue, with the holiday you !!!!
                      3. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 May 2018 14: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Raf01
                        So the Central Bank sets the course or not? Yes or no?

                        Yes. According to the Federal Law of July 10, 2002 No. 86-FZ. The above link, if you haven’t reached it yet.
                        “Install” and “define” are two different concepts. This too - if it has not yet reached.
                        In relation to the national currency rate -
                        Quote: Raf01
                        one word "external"

                        enough to understand your opponent’s level yes
                        Shah, unfasten already stop
      10. Awaz
        Awaz 9 May 2018 07: 58
        0
        Yes, no one can just get rid of the buck. Putin and Co. will simply reduce the number of bucks in the ZVZ and increase for example in the RMB and the Euro ... they cannot take any other complex actions.
        But I would attach the ruble exchange rate to a liter of gasoline: 1 liter - 1 ruble and in the near future it would be the hardest currency. Neither the EU nor China are likely to lower the cost of gasoline or solariums. This is a huge tax revenue.
    4. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 8 May 2018 20: 01
      +4
      The words seem to be correct, but just what will we become attached to if the stabilization fund in the same dollars heats US stores? The yuan is extremely unreliable, the Mongolian tugrik is too unreliable, few have heard of drachmas. It would not be desirable but it is necessary to put up (there are types of goods that can be bought only for green pieces of paper), while putting up for our salvation is a golden ruble, but for this the Russian economy must be self-sufficient, in all respects.
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 8 May 2018 20: 48
        +1
        Yuan is extremely unreliable
        - is it that old man X whispered in your ear, or you’ve come up with laughing
        (there are types of goods that can be bought only for green pieces of paper)
        - give an example?, American bonds do not count laughing
        It will not work, if not sad, but China is completely tied to the United States
        30 percent of exports, maybe a little more.

        but that's just what we will become attached
        major partner currencies (EU and China) + gold.
      2. Awaz
        Awaz 9 May 2018 10: 50
        0
        I already wrote above. If you make your own ruble, then you need to attach it to something specific, which the Russian Federation can at least somehow influence. As an example, a bunch of gasoline - solarium. The Russian Federation cannot control the price of oil, gas or gold in full, but the price of gasoline and solarium, in the near future, the whole EU and the US are unlikely to dare to bring down. Too large tax revenues come from them. You can also tie electricity there)))
    5. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 8 May 2018 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      The Russian economy needs to be untied from the dollar, whose monopoly is unreliable and dangerous for many countries of the world, said Russian President Vladimir Putin

      And not only the Russian economy should be untied from the dollar. It's time for the mattresses to feel how to live within their means and only at their own expense.

      It will not work, if not sadly, but China is completely tied to the United States, and this with their economy up to 60% of the entire world economy. Iran tried, but was left in deep solitude. Venezuela also does not count, quickly mattresses will convince. Remains becoming economically strong, in any other way.
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 8 May 2018 21: 06
        0
        You hold the horses a little !!! https://golos.io/ru--yekonomika/@romapush/mirovay
        a-ekonomika-v-cifrakh-2017-gi-prognoz-izmenenii-
        na-2020-i-2030-gg 15-17% according to various sources.
    6. Rostislav
      Rostislav 8 May 2018 20: 48
      +2
      With such a public debt?
      When this soap bubble begins to crumble, the Great Depression of the 30s will seem like a picnic. And with that amount of weapons on hand, I don’t even want to figure out the possible options.
      Therefore, no one is interested in the fact that this US “bubble” burst, because it is fraught with the whole world. But so far it has not been possible to figure out how to "blow it off" neatly, therefore he lives. Till.
    7. kapitan92
      kapitan92 8 May 2018 21: 44
      +7
      [quote = NEXUS] [quote]The Russian economy must be untied from the dollar, whose monopoly is unreliable and dangerous for many countries of the world, said Russian President Vladimir Putin [/ quote]
      And not only the Russian economy should be untied from the dollar. It's time for the mattresses to feel how to live within their means and only at their own expense.

      They can speak with us - everyone speaks! The main thing is that our ruble should not be “untied” by the dollar, otherwise we will wash ourselves with our oil. The mattresses only farted with sanctions on Rusal, and the currency took off and the "friends of the Guarantor" requested help. Ahead of the increase in excise taxes on everything, VAT, personal income tax, will introduce a sales tax, fuel and lubricants "rod" the third week, and ahead of the sowing season, what prices will be seen in the fall.
      Today I heard the name of the future ministers, I almost described myself with “delight”. Bravo Guarantor !!! Economic reforms are starting! laughing
    8. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 9 May 2018 08: 14
      0
      But the trouble is that everything in the West is bought for dollars, like they told me that even Heptyl and its modifications, not to mention microcircuits. Noodles are everything.
    9. prapor55
      prapor55 9 May 2018 08: 33
      0
      For starters, the central bank needs to be nationalized, but in general, giving up the dollar has cost many lives. All this is rhetoric. Listen to Katasonov’s first reaction to the appointment of iPhone.
    10. Alber
      Alber 9 May 2018 18: 30
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      not only the Russian economy should be untied from the dollar. It's time for the mattresses to feel how to live within their means and only at their own expense.


      It was necessary to untie back in 2000, when he replaced Eltsin and became president
  2. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 8 May 2018 19: 59
    +5
    Я in principle agree

    The devil is in the details.
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 8 May 2018 19: 59
    +13
    And the Central Bank will nationalize, review the results of the privatization, open branches of Sberbank in Crimea ???
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 8 May 2018 20: 08
      +3
      Quote: ANCIENT
      And the Central Bank will nationalize, review the results of the privatization, open branches of Sberbank in Crimea ???

      I’ll tell you a secret, Sberbank is credited in the West at 4-5%, therefore it will not contradict their policies in the Crimea, in the Czech Republic it gives loans to the population at 7%, compare with Russia.
      1. edmed
        edmed 8 May 2018 21: 25
        +1
        Today, a girl from Sberbank talked me out on a loan at 19%. I look at the Czechs with envy. am
    2. Genry
      Genry 8 May 2018 20: 50
      +2
      Quote: ANCIENT
      And the Central Bank is being nationalized,

      The Central Bank cannot be nationalized. It’s like a branch of the IMF or the Fed ... You can only change the Constitution and create the State Bank of Russia and transfer funds from the Central Bank to it (if they give it back).
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 May 2018 21: 17
        0
        The Central Bank and so gives 98% of its profits to the goat.
        1. Genry
          Genry 9 May 2018 09: 51
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          The Central Bank and so gives 98% of its profits to the goat.

          What are you speaking about?
          Central Bank profit is close to zero !!!
          That's right - the treasury.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 May 2018 13: 30
            0
            All taxes and others go through the central bank - their profits are significant.
            1. Genry
              Genry 9 May 2018 15: 18
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              All taxes and others go through the central bank - their profits are significant.

              In the Central Bank are only ruble correspondent accounts of other banks. Those. only the control function is performed. This can be said to be a non-profit load.
              The Central Bank receives profit from lending to other banks. But he spends this profit on the salaries of his employees and various unprofitable measures to support the ruined, but incomprehensible, banks who need them. As a result, there is no profit.
  4. Bok tubres
    Bok tubres 8 May 2018 20: 02
    +13
    For starters, you need to "untie" Russia from ...Medvedev!
    1. Tomato
      Tomato 8 May 2018 21: 07
      +2
      What, the State Department appoints Medvedev?
      1. Bok tubres
        Bok tubres 8 May 2018 21: 18
        +1
        Already appointed! laughing
        I hope Putin removes ... wink
  5. faterdom
    faterdom 8 May 2018 20: 03
    +1
    There is a tool for this: oil and gas. Dollars for them let only the United States pay. And with the rest, demand only yuan or rubles. With the EU - okay, the Euro, with Japan - the yen. And all the rest like that and the only way.
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 8 May 2018 20: 04
    +5
    "And now (!?!) We see that the WTO rules are being violated very often, restrictions for political reasons, which are called sanctions."

    Well, the last "neophyte believer" finally "talked" and "received sight" ... wink
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 8 May 2018 20: 07
    0
    We need to get rid of the dollar, Putin said.
    I can imagine how some of our newcomers got colder inside!
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 8 May 2018 20: 18
      0
      No, for "them" (and not ours, especially) everything boils literally. They say Richard III, banged for less, at one time. wink
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 8 May 2018 20: 30
      0
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      We need to get rid of the dollar, Putin said.

      And what will the head of the transport department say (Central Bank of Russia) drinks
  8. Antidote
    Antidote 8 May 2018 20: 08
    +1
    What is it that all olegarchs have to convert their accounts into euros?
  9. anjey
    anjey 8 May 2018 20: 09
    +1
    The golden ruble loomed in the global financial market ???
    1. anjey
      anjey 8 May 2018 20: 30
      +1
      more than once, and not quite badly, he raised the monetary and financial economy of both tsarist Russia and Soviet ....
  10. Abram
    Abram 8 May 2018 20: 10
    +3
    untie - tie, and I kept a little egg and will keep it in dollars. after so many denominations, predatory monetary reforms, there is no faith in the ruble
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 8 May 2018 20: 29
      +2
      I would have kept it in gold, but I have to buy it as a "scrap", because it can be sold to buyers only as a "scrap", and dollars are just waste paper that can be printed arbitrarily. But I do not care, I have one thing, no money. laughing
      1. Abram
        Abram 8 May 2018 20: 45
        +3
        I thought about the coins with George the Victorious, there is no VAT when buying, but after the scandal with the “rusting” gold - well, what for, why the mint makes them there is unclear. bullion - VAT, and again, I'm afraid to buy from our state. Therefore, only $, from the very beginning this "waste paper" did not fail
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 8 May 2018 20: 50
          0
          I explained that - "gold scrap". And you're talking about bullion and a dollar. but I can’t forbid you to believe. laughing
          1. Abram
            Abram 8 May 2018 20: 56
            +1
            I'm not a jeweler to buy gold scrap at a good price smile
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 8 May 2018 20: 59
              0
              Salvation of drowning people is the work of drowning people themselves. request
  11. keeper03
    keeper03 8 May 2018 20: 19
    0
    In this direction you need not move, but escape !!! yes
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 8 May 2018 20: 49
      +3
      since no one indicated the deadlines, you can do nothing but say that we are moving in this direction fellow
  12. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 8 May 2018 20: 22
    +2
    That's when the US begins to store its reserves in ruble bonds, then we can say "... that we are there, someone!".
    In the meantime, these are just speeches. And the day was right for them, because today Dmitry Anatolyevich went on to renew his term, but among the people this candidacy is very unpopular (like other characters from the government). Here to muffle this news No. 1 informational occasions. A dispute with Mr. Zyuganov about the fault of the CPSU, and now the “damned green pieces of paper” went to nuts.)))
  13. bald
    bald 8 May 2018 20: 24
    +2
    Unfortunately, they tried for a long time - the Russian chervonets should be a chervonets.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 May 2018 21: 18
      0
      A strong ruble is not profitable for our economy.
      1. bald
        bald 9 May 2018 00: 10
        0
        Why? I'm serious. It is not beneficial to a certain circle of persons.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 May 2018 13: 33
          0
          Because exported goods from Russia are competitive in price, and import into Russia is not profitable - it is better to produce domestically.
  14. Gene Concrete
    Gene Concrete 8 May 2018 20: 29
    +4
    Congratulations to the patriots on another victory.
    Nevertheless, I recommend that I keep my savings in an “enemy” cabin or in highly liquid goods, I hope nobody forgot the lessons of default and denomination, nothing is forgotten.
  15. Lesorub
    Lesorub 8 May 2018 20: 57
    +2
    I agree in principle. This is not just a gap from the dollar. We are talking about the need to increase our economic sovereignty, and this is absolutely correct.

    Very, very Correct! The main thing is to realize the legend!
  16. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 8 May 2018 21: 03
    +7
    Putin’s statements are at odds with business. This means that it will “tie up” the economy to the dollar even more. All the big words that GDP, that DAM, is just a concussion.
  17. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 May 2018 21: 06
    +6
    Get rid of the dollar? Yes, very simple!
    First of all, return the "butterfly". So was called on the slang of currency dealers article 88 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR 1960 of the year “Violation of the rules on foreign exchange transactions”
    The article provided criminal penalties for operations with foreign currency and currency values. Condemnation of art. According to 88, depending on the nature of the crime, imprisonment for a term from 3 to 15 years, confiscation of property, a reference to up to 5 years and the death penalty.
    Give citizens a week for the official exchange of greenbacks for rubles (of course, at the very lousy course, not 63: 1, as it is today, but 20, or even 10: 1, you think you will not give it away, give it as pretty!)
    Leave the greens only for interstate calculations, as it was in the USSR. For businesses that have to buy raw materials or components for dollars, to produce cashless sales of greens also at a predatory rate - there will be an incentive to switch to everything domestic.

    As you can imagine, this is all a joke. In fact, the Russians are keeping under the pillows as no less than 20 billions of greens. (At the same time, I’m not talking about oligarchs and other cellists hiding their greens in foreign banks and offshores.)
    Do not forget about more than 100 billions of greenbacks to which the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (read, your own native government) bought mattresses from you and other American people - government securities.
    According to the results for 2017 year, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation bought US securities for more than $ 16 billion, bringing its share among the holders of national hegemonic debt to $ 102,2 billion, which in turn amounts to 30% of the foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation and is a record in terms of buying foreign securities from 2014 year.
    And rightly so, by the way, did. Why? More will be your grandmother. They will be preserved in the best possible way, and they will give a steady profit. Their securities are completely liquid. Rest assured. To pull them apart will not be so easy. A little bit of what happens with wood will be something to buy a piece of bread (and even with butter).
    One of the indicators of a strong economy is a stable and expensive currency, for which there is a demand not only domestically, but also from other states that buy it. The US dollar is not the best thing in the world, but the most popular currency in the world. The economy of the country issuing this currency is diversified and stable (it withstands even financial crises) and therefore, it is the dollar that is the world reserve currency. The collapse of this currency will lead to innumerable misfortunes in the global economy, to the immediate fall of the governments of dozens of countries, to the bloody civil wars on all continents, including ... (but do not bring Gd!). We wish the American dollar good health and many years of quiet life for the joy of all its keepers. hi
    1. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 9 May 2018 08: 22
      0
      Eeee, my friend, you are offering the people, not the state, to "untie" the dollar, taking away the last alternative from the people. And about the US securities your recommendations are not pleased.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 9 May 2018 08: 32
        0
        Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
        Eeee, my friend, you are offering the people, not the state, to "untie" the dollar, taking away the last alternative from the people. And about the US securities your recommendations are not pleased.

        I'm sorry, I did not offer it. You me with no by whom do not confuse? But on the issue of securities your sadness does not share, alas. hi
        1. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM 9 May 2018 08: 59
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          Give citizens a week for the official exchange of greenbacks for rubles (of course, at the very lousy course, not 63: 1, as it is today, but 20, or even 10: 1, you think you will not give it away, give it as pretty!)
          Leave the greens only for interstate calculations, as it was in the USSR. For businesses that have to buy raw materials or components for dollars, to produce cashless sales of greens also at a predatory rate - there will be an incentive to switch to everything domestic.

          Sorry, isn't that your text? Well, yes, that’s a playful prelude. Guilty, did not notice))
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 9 May 2018 09: 12
            +1
            Quote: SHURUM -BURUM

            Oh, yes, this is a joking foreplay.(parody?) Sorry, did not notice))

            Well, that's okay! hi
  18. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 8 May 2018 21: 15
    -1
    Well done. As always, our “leader” is late, in this case at least a few years. It is possible to reduce the economy’s dependence on the dollar, the only question is where to get the currency for the purchase of consumables for equipment, etc.
  19. Tomato
    Tomato 8 May 2018 21: 15
    +3
    Somehow on YouTube I listened to a lecture by an American economist. There is one such - but we will refuse the dollar, then they will be scared in your Fashington !!!
    The poor American fell from his chair, kicked his legs (like a hare in the animated film “Wait a minute”), laughed, wiped away tears when he could speak again, the young man explained.
    In Washington they will not be scared; there they simply will not notice it. The share of Russia in the dollar turnover of world trade is about 1,8%. (Now it’s already less, it was about 5 years ago).
    But Russia has a huge dependence on the West, and in order to buy something, you have to lose money on conversion.
  20. antiexpert
    antiexpert 8 May 2018 21: 21
    +1
    it is not necessary to untie the Russian economy from the dollar, but untie the dollar from the United States and make it a real world currency, in which those countries that invest real shares in the global global market have weight
  21. garius
    garius 8 May 2018 21: 27
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    Quote: sefevi
    Pure populism! It is not so easy to abandon the currency, whose country produces almost 25% of the world production. Many tried, but did not achieve anything. To do this, they need only a strong, but the STRONGEST economy, and, moreover, independent.


    Well, how do you tell us what percentage of the "material" economy in this product? That is, discard financial services, educational services, government spending ... It is very cool to look at US GDP after subtracting these costs)
    1. Tomato
      Tomato 8 May 2018 22: 02
      +2
      Dear friend. Somehow I listened to an interesting lecture by a Russian economist.
      About the "material economy".
      He gave an example of how modern economics work. Of course, somewhat in a joking manner, but the reality reflects.
      IPhone 500 $
      Russia supplies some raw materials for the hull, stele, etc. He gets $ 10 from him.
      China is collecting. Gets $ 40.
      US style technology, intellectual property - $ 450.
      PS If you see signs of a “material economy” in the window — smoking chimneys, mines, oil pipelines — you live in a Third World country. (I didn’t say, one economist known to us)
  22. 23424636
    23424636 8 May 2018 22: 19
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    it’s just a declaration, in order to carry out this policy you need to have your own program. similar to the one used by the union - clearing settlements and other instruments. exchange of goods. and people capable primarily of being patriotomy and not gamblers. So take a look at the GDP and put Dmitry Rogozin on this subject. Whom the iPhone leaked due to the fact that it was obscuring it. Maybe it will be useless. And since all this silanovo-Moiseyev team will make you an independent chervonets.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 8 May 2018 22: 30
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    You can untie it, but what will it be tied to? To gold or to Euro? Or maybe the new standard will be muddied with China?
    This is a very long and very serious process, for example, I understand why ours so intensely do not want to trade resources for rubles - this will increase the value of the ruble, and we do not have a tool for maneuvering our own currency, we are an export-oriented country.
    And not everyone can take up such a process .....................
  24. Cradle
    Cradle 8 May 2018 22: 40
    +1
    It is unreliable and dangerous. Putin agrees to "untie" the economy from the dollar
    +++ Freshly legend, but hard to believe, for this it was necessary to throw out the entire Medvedev team ...
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    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 9 May 2018 01: 34
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      I also think that the dollar is so saturated through all the economies of the world! I don’t think it’s easy to refuse it, just if you directly engage in such a task, it will definitely take a couple of decades ... request China has also been offering it for a long time, but can you imagine what kind of a change it will be for the entire economy as a whole!? ..... (or am I exaggerating and quite easy and easy for myself? recourse )
    2. Dr. Hub
      Dr. Hub 9 May 2018 01: 48
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      You're dramatizing. I don’t think that our economists are completely stupid, no one will get rid of the dollar at a time and will not ban it. With the same success you can ban day and night. But interstate settlements can partially translate into national currencies. China, Iran, Russia have long been talking about this. So gradually we will give up the dollar. Just one moment, I’m not sure that we are able to compete with the first economy of the world. Although ... Wait and see.
  26. lopvlad
    lopvlad 9 May 2018 00: 09
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    The Russian economy needs to be untied from the dollar


    it’s for the future. And now it would be nice to untie the government’s economic bloc from the IMF. And if it is not Siluanov’s and Co.’s initiative that so completely coincides with the IMF’s recommendation for countries without sovereignty (Ukraine and others). The IMF requires constantly raising energy prices for the population, they regularly raise money for us, they demand raising their retirement age, and they increase it. They demand that material money be canceled with the transition to only zeros in the computer and we are immediately ahead of the rest.
  27. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 9 May 2018 01: 41
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    As they say, while the fried cock in ... didn’t peck. It was necessary to deal with this even in the fat years, when oil was $ 120 and they did not put pressure on sanctions. It was necessary to invest in your economy and production development, and not in US debt obligations
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 9 May 2018 04: 30
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      Quote: Dr. Hub
      It was necessary to deal with this even in fat years


      do you think it will work out now? economic policy is formed not by the president, but by the central bank, but by the economic bloc. The central bank implements the IMF policy and doesn’t give a damn what Putin has planned and said since the Central Bank does not obey him or the government or the Duma.
      And the only thing that will turn out is what the IMF requires, namely, to untie citizens from retirement by raising the retirement age and raising taxes from ordinary citizens (Silvanov’s last little thing will be removed from his pockets).

      And wagging the tongue like writing a single history textbook. Even at the beginning of the last presidential term, Putin gave the task to create such a textbook, 6 years have passed and everything is gone.
  28. kefan
    kefan 9 May 2018 02: 08
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    It was a long time to do this, woke up.
  29. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 9 May 2018 02: 45
    0
    But Putin was asked by those who tied the economy to the dollar?
    PS - we can repeat, but the name of the topic simply provokes)))
  30. vlad.1924
    vlad.1924 9 May 2018 05: 07
    +2
    Initially, it was a mistake to tie the Russian ruble to a dilapidated dollar chariot .... One god knows how much money the United States is pumping out of Russia ... The opinion of the Russian president is not yet a guide to action for the government ... Liberal Russian economists raised on "democratic principles" from the HSE , before the bankruptcy of Russia, they will defend the liberal economic principles of the liberal economy under the guidance of curators from international financial institutions, relying on the opinion of the United States ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 9 May 2018 05: 56
      0
      And then the bear is there again! Dimochka-iPhone will get loose ???? rather from the ruble!
  31. nikolaev
    nikolaev 9 May 2018 05: 09
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    It was not just naive, but stupid, while even ordinary people could understand it, and testified to a complete misunderstanding of world processes and the essence of players on the world stage.
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 9 May 2018 05: 11
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      more precisely, about the unwillingness to follow the interests of Russia
  32. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 9 May 2018 05: 37
    +1
    Well, untie it, why the hell are you pulling the rubber, Vladimir Vladimirovich !!!
  33. LeonidL
    LeonidL 9 May 2018 05: 54
    0
    Why does Russia need the WTO, ECHR, PACE, CoE, OSCE and other rudeness if international law and other paper rubbish is given and firmly rested in the grave on which it is inscribed - "Not the rights of those who are, but who has more ..."?
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 May 2018 06: 26
    +2
    Yes, yes, Uncle Vova, of course.
    Only the same aluminum for profile and mosquito systems
    the same manufacturers buy at the LME rate, which is in dollars.
    There are also manufacturers of accessories from TsAM.
    Dentures and implants where are we from?
    We are attached to a buck just like kapets, because
    wherever you go, percent of 75-80 we either have no analogues,
    or these analogues are so miserable that it’s better not to take them.
    This is a word about our medications.
    So I won’t touch my little bucket with dollars / euros yet,
    all the same, it will be more reliable than the ruble ...
  35. farelouz
    farelouz 9 May 2018 07: 13
    +2
    There is a lot of land in the Russian Federation, prisons are overcrowded - what prevents them from planting vegetables with these hands - and selling them almost for free? in agriculture, you can make a breakthrough in a year! or nationalize all natural resources and sell them for rubles, and there are many examples, and we have a capitalist government, they don’t need it! China distills alcohol from sewage waste - then sends it to Russia - squeezes everything that is possible)
  36. Mentat
    Mentat 9 May 2018 08: 02
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    Quote: Skif83
    not too long - 18 years to understand such things? Only now did it come to mind?

    Firstly, Russia had limited means and forces for such actions, including largely for internal reasons. Now the Americans themselves have created a fork.
    Secondly, the US is weakening, dissatisfaction with this country in the world is growing, and Russia's image, on the contrary, is strengthening. The process of abandoning the dollar has actually been very slow for several years, but is gaining momentum, because everyone understands that no one needs this economic yoke.
  37. I am Russian
    I am Russian 9 May 2018 08: 32
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    I am extremely surprised at Putin's statement. The wisest ... That his Americans deceived (in his words, in an interview with television channels on the events in Ukraine) with a coup in Ukraine, he trusted them. Now about his naive faith in the principles of the world economy. This is what is publicly voiced. And what is not voiced ?! What kind of person is this, the team at the helm of Russia, which is fooled time after time ?! Yes, he is completely unsuitable for the presidency. fool
  38. gukoyan
    gukoyan 9 May 2018 08: 50
    +1
    For almost ten years they have been sick of the fact that you need to get off the oil needle and abandon the dollar ... Unfortunately, they only say. And rightly so far, the stolen money lies beyond the hill of the hill will not be any.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 May 2018 13: 37
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      They have already gotten off the oil industry - 60% of the budget revenues are not from the oil industry.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 9 May 2018 20: 20
        0
        Here the authorities are trying to ascribe to themselves the merits of low oil prices.
  39. Dead hand
    Dead hand 9 May 2018 09: 10
    0
    ))) he will cure everyone)) ... the year of the mouse spirit began))
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 9 May 2018 09: 39
    0
    ... I agree...
  41. belzund
    belzund 9 May 2018 09: 49
    0
    The most important thing is to untie the central bank from the Fed and conduct your financial policy!
  42. NF68
    NF68 9 May 2018 14: 25
    0
    But how can this be done so that the rejection of green American candy wrappers is relatively painless?
  43. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 9 May 2018 14: 37
    +1
    The President noted that in previous decades, Russia had hoped for compliance with the declared principles in the field of world trade and the global economy, which was
    Wrecking and betrayal.
  44. syndicalist
    syndicalist 9 May 2018 20: 14
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    Quote: NEXUS
    They work together, and we apart

    And who is this "we" and how many "us"