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Volker confirmed the main goal of the United States: the collapse of Russia in the image of the collapse of the USSR

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The American special representative for the Donbass, Kurt Walker, in fact openly stated that the main goal of the United States is the collapse of the Russian Federation in the image of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Volker outlined certain comparisons, stating that the Crimea will not eventually be part of Russia, as "they ceased to be part of the USSR of the Baltic republics."


The statement of Kurt Volcker leads "Ukrinform":
They (Russians) will say some things, we will say others, but we will see what happens in the future. The Baltic countries were occupied by the Soviet Union for decades, and in the end, everything changed.


According to Volcker, he “enthusiastically” looks at the predecessor politicians in the United States, who at the beginning of the 40s did not recognize the “annexation of the Baltic states”. And how does Volker look at his predecessors, who took part in the actual annexation of Kosovo, where the largest American military base in Europe now stands?

According to Volcker, sanctions against Russia are "a message to Moscow that the United States is not going to put up with the actions of the Russian authorities against Ukraine."

Volker confirmed the main goal of the United States: the collapse of Russia in the image of the collapse of the USSR


Walker:
We are not going to put up with it.


In other words, the US sanctions are aimed only at one thing: the dismantling of the territorial integrity of Russia. This must be borne in mind by those who say that "the United States has already forgotten about the Crimea" and are ready to "go to cooperation with Russia on this issue." They move to cooperation with Russia only when Russia demonstrates power. As soon as we are talking about permanent concessions from Moscow, Washington perceives this as a weakness and begins to push even more actively.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 8 May 2018 07: 38
    +44
    Who would doubt it ... Only they don’t understand, they are fussing with traitors, jacks, mares .. We need to take an example of China, they also tried it there once .... We were quickly near the wall ..
    1. Merold
      Merold 8 May 2018 08: 25
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      Who would doubt it ... Only they don’t understand, they are fussing with traitors, jacks, mares .. We need to take an example of China, they also tried it there once .... We were quickly near the wall ..

      That’s what’s happening in the country: they’ll “pile up” them with batons and give the policeman 2 years for “chopping tooth enamel”, almost all media outlets with a different position from the official one were closed and dispersed, opposition politicians are shot at the Kremlin walls, and life is not getting better not getting better ...
      Can it really be all those who disagree with the wall? Well, you blundered that the government and the president are bad - get a bullet in the forehead.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 8 May 2018 08: 27
        +14
        With the "bulkers" you hope that things will get better? Life?
        Quote: Merold
        Quote: 210ox
        Who would doubt it ... Only they don’t understand, they are fussing with traitors, jacks, mares .. We need to take an example of China, they also tried it there once .... We were quickly near the wall ..

        That’s what’s happening in the country: they’ll “pile up” them with batons and give the policeman 2 years for “chopping tooth enamel”, almost all media outlets with a different position from the official one were closed and dispersed, opposition politicians are shot at the Kremlin walls, and life is not getting better not getting better ...
        Can it really be all those who disagree with the wall? Well, you blundered that the government and the president are bad - get a bullet in the forehead.
        1. Merold
          Merold 8 May 2018 08: 33
          +10
          Quote: 210ox
          With the "bulkers" you hope that things will get better? Life?

          I have no idea. I am only sure that with those who are in power now and with the support of people like you, life in Russia will definitely not work out. This is at least.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 8 May 2018 08: 43
            +16
            Where such confidence? Do you know each other personally?
            Or all the information from the Internet from resources where "everything is bad"?
            1. Merold
              Merold 8 May 2018 08: 50
              +10
              Quote: Mestny
              Why such confidence?

              From a comparison of prices for gasoline, household goods, products, excise taxes, taxes, spending on medicine, education, science and even defense ... Continue?
              1. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 8 May 2018 09: 05
                +21
                Will you lay a lie?
                Let's compare. What will we compare, what prices? I, unlike you, am familiar with life in Europe firsthand, and how much is really what it costs - too. How much gasoline, how much meat, and how much is a cup of coffee in a cafe. How much tax does a worker in Germany pay when he retires, how much he pays for housing ... I would talk to knowledgeable people ...
                Recently, a familiar check sent from the United States. The ambulance call is 800 greens. Yes, he paid for insurance. But there was still ... And not everything was covered by insurance ... Have you seen a check from a cafe in Switzerland (fast food)? Yes, there is a pension, for ours if measured - four times. But the person "from there" quite seriously declares - you will stretch your legs there for this pension.
                1. Merold
                  Merold 8 May 2018 09: 20
                  +7
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Will you lay a lie?

                  "Poke" from great spirituality?

                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Will you lay a lie?
                  Let's compare. What will we compare, what prices?

                  The ones I wrote about: price increases in Russia for food, gasoline, communal services, medicines, etc. Reducing spending on education, medicine, science, defense ...
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  I, unlike you, am familiar with life in Europe firsthand, and how much it really costs - also

                  What country are we talking about? You want about Finland, where for example, milk in the morning costs 70 rubles, in the afternoon 50, and in the evening 30? We don’t like Finland, we can talk about Italy, France, the USA, and even about the Czech Republic or Poland.
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter

                  Recently, a familiar check sent from the United States. The ambulance call is 800 greens. Yes, he paid for insurance. .

                  It should be so. This is only in Russia, when you are reluctant to go to the clinic - they call an ambulance, so that you can measure the pressure (links to similar cases from ambulance doctors to spread?)
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Have you seen a check from a cafe in Switzerland (fast food)?

                  I saw a lot of things, "an expert on life in the West." For example this
                  1. Averias
                    Averias 8 May 2018 10: 01
                    +19
                    Why did you crop the picture? Especially its upper part. I am extremely curious about the name of the institution. That year, while I was in Innsbruck, out of ignorance of my own, I ate a bite in an unprepossessing-looking institution worth twice as much as your picture. How does your picture relate to what the person said above? For example, at the same airport in Frankfurt, you can easily have a meal for 200 euros. And judging by your picture, this is a check from somewhere (by the presence of mulled wine) from resort areas (such as Krasnaya Polyana) or the airport. Although it doesn’t matter. And an ambulance in the USA does not need to be flooded, the Americans themselves call it a medical, damn expensive taxi. I was in Italy in February, I have Italians friends there. And I see how they lived before and how now. And unlike you, they do not offer me to talk about their lives. They show me it clearly.
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 8 May 2018 10: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: Averias
                      Why did you crop the picture? Especially its upper part. I am extremely curious about the name of the institution.

                      Bar "Chalet", Krasnaya Polyana.


                      How does your picture relate to what the person said above?

                      What is expensive in Switzerland? In addition, it can be expensive not only in Switzerland.
                      And you don’t need to fill in about the ambulance in the USA, the Americans themselves call it a medical, damn expensive taxi

                      And what did I upload about the ambulance? I said that it should be so. An ambulance is called (should at least be called) when the seams are at all, and not just because your stomach hurts.
                      I was in Italy in February, I have Italians friends there. And I see how they lived before and how now. And unlike you, they do not offer me to talk about their lives. They show me it clearly.

                      Happy for you. And why are you talking about Italy? The man wrote that he was aware of the life there. I invited him to discuss this life in comparison with Russia on the example of several countries. Including Italy. What are my complaints?
                      1. Averias
                        Averias 8 May 2018 11: 01
                        +7
                        I was not going to have a confrontation with you. And for the "flooded" sorry I ask (I am writing from the tablet from the car). It’s just that your appeal to the person above - “A connoisseur of Life in the West”, I regarded as disagreeing with what the person wrote. That is, you, as it were, doubted that a person knows what he is talking about. And your check, which you attached, indirectly confirmed this. It was not entirely correct to apply a check from Yasnaya Polyana, can you find it? Although, there are a couple of places where you can eat much cheaper. And since this is a resort, the prices there are appropriate (you would think that in Sochi it was once cheaper).
                        An ambulance in the United States, as with medicine in general, is a topic for another discussion. There is a good friend, he is an American, he left for Portugal. And he left because he suddenly realized that his accumulations and pensions would not be enough to decently spend the rest of the years in the USA (although he had everything calculated and he was looking forward to traveling. And then it happened that still ongoing).
                        So, about the insurance and medicine they have (local case). He, a friend, while he worked (oil industry), had excellent insurance and everything would be fine if it weren’t for one BUT. The hospital that served his insurance was located 160 km from his town. And local hospitals did not provide basic insurance services, only for a fee. The same goes for ambulance. You have to admit that the ambulance officer had to pay $ 347 for the diagnosis he had made himself, and therefore he was taken to the hospital just to give him a pill. At the same time, pledge to assure that insurance covers everything. And then invoice the amount indicated above (he took a spasm in the stomach for renal colic, the pain was very severe and caused an ambulance). And the distance to the hospital is one block.
                        Why am I talking about Italy? So you yourself suggested talking about different countries, didn’t you? So I gave an example. I can tell you about France, for example, about the city of Karadash, a lot of interesting information. Do you want about England? A lot of interesting things from the life of an ordinary Englishman in the same London. What is the topic for discussion and comparison?
                        What you told about the cost of milk in Finland is a very dubious indicator and example. For example, we buy milk, meat, potatoes from private traders from the village (almost farmers). So milk costs 90 rubles a liter and this is with delivery. So there you go.
                      2. 72jora72
                        72jora72 9 May 2018 08: 32
                        0
                        Bar "Chalet", Krasnaya Polyana.
                        Ah ha ha ..................
                  2. artifact
                    artifact 8 May 2018 10: 39
                    +2
                    Quote: Merold
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    Will you lay a lie?

                    "Poke" from great spirituality?

                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    Will you lay a lie?
                    Let's compare. What will we compare, what prices?

                    The ones I wrote about: price increases in Russia for food, gasoline, communal services, medicines, etc. Reducing spending on education, medicine, science, defense ...
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    I, unlike you, am familiar with life in Europe firsthand, and how much it really costs - also

                    What country are we talking about? You want about Finland, where for example, milk in the morning costs 70 rubles, in the afternoon 50, and in the evening 30? We don’t like Finland, we can talk about Italy, France, the USA, and even about the Czech Republic or Poland.
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter

                    Recently, a familiar check sent from the United States. The ambulance call is 800 greens. Yes, he paid for insurance. .

                    It should be so. This is only in Russia, when you are reluctant to go to the clinic - they call an ambulance, so that you can measure the pressure (links to similar cases from ambulance doctors to spread?)
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    Have you seen a check from a cafe in Switzerland (fast food)?

                    I saw a lot of things, "an expert on life in the West." For example this

                    two "new Russians" meet one another:
                    look what a tie, bought one and a half green ....
                    other:
                    - Uh, bro, you’ve been deceived there around the corner, exactly the same, but for two thousand ...
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 8 May 2018 11: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Averias
                      I was not going to have a confrontation with you.

                      So do I.
                      It’s just that your appeal to the person above - “A connoisseur of Life in the West,” I regarded as disagreeing with what the person wrote. That is, you, as it were, doubted that a person knows what he is talking about.

                      It is, doubted. And the fact that a person continues to write comments on other topics and does not want to continue the conversation here, confirms this.
                      And your check, which you attached, indirectly confirmed this. It was not entirely correct to apply a check from Yasnaya Polyana, can you find it?

                      I do not find. This is not such an exclusive place in the world (such as Switzerland) where rich people from all over the world strive to have such prices.
                      Although, there are a couple of places where you can eat much cheaper

                      In any city in the world you can buy the same bottle of beer with a difference of two. This is clear.
                      Why am I talking about Italy? So you yourself suggested talking about different countries, didn’t you? So I gave an example. I can tell you about France, for example, about the city of Karadash, a lot of interesting information. Do you want about England? A lot of interesting things from the life of an ordinary Englishman in the same London. What is the topic for discussion and comparison?

                      I can also tell a lot about many cities and countries, but the conversation was not about that. The man stated that "unlike me, he is familiar with life in Europe firsthand," and when the time came to show it, he evaporated somewhere.
                      It was nice to talk with you. Good luck!
                  3. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 8 May 2018 10: 50
                    +10
                    Quote: Merold
                    I saw a lot of things

                    laughing laughing laughing Checking gas. water -1000 rubles ... And a half-vodka -3500 ... Then the barbecue should cost at least a dozen. wassat How many such bullshit on the network walks ....
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 8 May 2018 10: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: Paranoid50
                      Quote: Merold
                      I saw a lot of things

                      laughing laughing laughing Checking gas. water -1000 rubles ... And a half-vodka -3500 ... Then the barbecue should cost at least a dozen. wassat How many such bullshit on the network walks ....

                      Have you tried before you write about "bullshit", at least open your eyes?
                      1. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 8 May 2018 11: 06
                        +4
                        Quote: Merold
                        to cheat?

                        Moreover - bullshit. No one in their right mind would order 10 to 50 grams. And four waters. laughing The list is for one, maximum two. Crap. Or the hucksters tried to deceive someone.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 8 May 2018 11: 10
                        0
                        A check for two fits well.
                      3. pafegosoff
                        pafegosoff 9 May 2018 21: 28
                        0
                        This is from the "saints" 90: "How much did you buy a tie? For a hundred? Here's a fool! Around the corner you can buy a thousand!"
                  4. valera75
                    valera75 8 May 2018 13: 31
                    +3
                    Your check is a blatant lie. 250 mg of mineral water costs almost twice as much as dumplings with meat and is twice as expensive as 0.5 beer. Golem photoshop. Aren't you ashamed of lying here so brazenly?
                  5. 72jora72
                    72jora72 9 May 2018 08: 29
                    +5
                    "Poke" from great spirituality?
                    А you stop talking nonsense, then maybe with you and they will talk more respectfully.
                  6. pafegosoff
                    pafegosoff 9 May 2018 21: 24
                    +1
                    X-nya some. Fools can give a million for shit ...
                2. farcop
                  farcop 8 May 2018 10: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Let's compare.
                  As I understand it, you are waving a mass outflow of the working class and the class of working intelligentsia that has joined it in Russia?
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 8 May 2018 12: 34
                    0
                    Quote: Paranoid50
                    Quote: Merold
                    to cheat?

                    Moreover - bullshit. No one in their right mind would order 10 to 50 grams. And four waters. laughing The list is for one, maximum two. Crap. Or the hucksters tried to deceive someone.

                    Let’s start to learn how to at least watch what you’re commenting and then give out your “expert” assessment. OK?
                3. Wendigo
                  Wendigo 8 May 2018 10: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Recently, a familiar check sent from the United States. The ambulance call is 800 greens.

                  Absolutely some primitive liar your friend! Calling an ambulance in the USA is absolutely free! good
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 8 May 2018 10: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Wendigo
                    Calling an ambulance in the USA is absolutely free! good

                    No.
                  2. Averias
                    Averias 8 May 2018 11: 11
                    +1
                    The call is yes, it's free, like everywhere else. But the provision of services, including just transportation to the hospital, is paid. Although no, I'm lying, not everywhere. In Asia, even the ambulance arrived and did nothing, they can bill.
          2. 210ox
            210ox 8 May 2018 09: 04
            +2
            You were mistaken ... As Professor Pleischner .. I do not support the authorities because they are soft-bodied and unprincipled.
            Quote: Merold
            Quote: 210ox
            With the "bulkers" you hope that things will get better? Life?

            I have no idea. I am only sure that with those who are in power now and with the support of people like you, life in Russia will definitely not work out. This is at least.
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE 8 May 2018 11: 40
              0
              or due to the fact that they again, in the same composition, were going to raise the birth rate due to 5 million visiting families a year? stop
          3. electrooleg
            electrooleg 8 May 2018 14: 21
            +1
            Quote: Merold
            I have no idea. I am only sure that with those who are in power now and with the support of people like you, life in Russia will definitely not work out.


            Should not speak против something but behind something. And clearly understand what you stand for. Otherwise, the mover turns out to be destructive, like in the heaped ones. A bullet in the forehead is the easiest and dumbest way out. Such and round degenerate can fulfill.
          4. Khazarin
            Khazarin 8 May 2018 15: 17
            +1
            Life will not get better until you yourself begin to build it! First, find consent in my head, then in the apartment, house, street, village, ....! And so you are waiting for the "good king" and good boyars. And they, as you dream, in principle do not exist, they are the same as you yourself! And about the Maltsev rolls, these are not carbonaria! They are from Korean, Bender-Transdanubian, they have a convention for the children of Lieutenant Schmidt!
          5. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 9 May 2018 08: 36
            +3
            Quote: Merold
            I have no idea. I am only sure that with those who are in power now and with the support of people like you, life in Russia will definitely not work out. This is at least.

            And with such talkers like you, life definitely won’t get better. You only know how to jabber. And whining about the sweet life somewhere there. There are enough problems in our country, but your whiner generation who does not remember what is bad and thinks that he can do better only by balabolism and rallies with compromising materials, he will not lead to good and creation. He will not collide, yes, but it will not collapse.
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 9 May 2018 08: 26
          +3
          That’s what’s happening in the country: they will “pile up” with batons and give 2 years for a “tooth enamel chip” to a policeman
          Lucky. In the United States, the police would have shot him on the spot ...........
        3. Abel
          Abel 10 May 2018 23: 34
          0
          They just don’t know that even the most critics and whistleblowers don’t know what to do next.
      2. shark
        shark 8 May 2018 08: 38
        +4
        Great idea. Totally agree with you. For the country must keep up, with a single hang of the day. And those to blather is not necessary to the wall. Siberia is great.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 May 2018 09: 09
        +8
        Quote: Merold
        Can it really be all those who disagree with the wall? Well, you blundered that the government and the president are bad - get a bullet in the forehead.

        Aha
      4. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 8 May 2018 09: 26
        +5
        Quote: Merold
        Quote: 210ox
        Who would doubt it ... Only they don’t understand, they are fussing with traitors, jacks, mares .. We need to take an example of China, they also tried it there once .... We were quickly near the wall ..

        That’s what’s happening in the country: they’ll “pile up” them with batons and give the policeman 2 years for “chopping tooth enamel”, almost all media outlets with a different position from the official one were closed and dispersed, opposition politicians are shot at the Kremlin walls, and life is not getting better not getting better ...
        Can it really be all those who disagree with the wall? Well, you blundered that the government and the president are bad - get a bullet in the forehead.

        You, dear, confused the site. This is not an echo or censor. To you there.
        1. Merold
          Merold 8 May 2018 09: 29
          +2
          Quote: Serge Gorely

          You, dear, confused the site. This is not an echo or censor. To you there.

          But essentially have something to say? Maybe I lied to what and you’ll catch me now?
          1. Serge Gorely
            Serge Gorely 8 May 2018 09: 34
            +6
            [quote = Merold] [quote = Serge Gorely]
            You, dear, confused the site. This is not an echo or censor. You there. [/ Quote]
            But essentially have something to say? Maybe I lied to what and you’ll catch me now? [/ Quote
            Yes, they lied. In Russia, people have no less rights than in the west. Examples? "The great artist" Pavlensky - while crap here, everything is OK. I just tried in Paris - they bought it. The same Puski. And how to disperse in the United States (blacks, pay back Wall Street, etc.
            Your beloved Navalny is still running. The echo also stinks.
            1. Merold
              Merold 8 May 2018 09: 39
              0
              Quote: Serge Gorely

              Yes, they lied. In Russia, people have no less rights than in the west. Examples? "The great artist" Pavlensky - while crap here, everything is OK. I just tried in Paris - they bought it.

              And how was it here and there? Just do not send me to Google.
        2. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 8 May 2018 11: 34
          0
          Quote: Serge Gorely
          dear

          he didn’t seem to ask you for a way
      5. misti1973
        misti1973 9 May 2018 00: 25
        0
        You work and you can’t get money? It should be so! The last apartment for debts taken away? Same thing. Does a child die of cancer? Go get ready! And you decide to protest, with a club on the head. Super! Not a country, but paradise.
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 9 May 2018 08: 38
          +3
          Quote: misti1973
          Super! Not a country, but paradise.

          Vali from the country just do not like it!
      6. Nick
        Nick 9 May 2018 05: 09
        +4
        Quote: Merold
        That’s what’s happening in the country: they’ll “pile up” them with batons and give 2 of the year for the “enamel cleavage” to the policeman,

        And in a state of law, it should be so.
        Quote: Merold
        almost all media outlets with positions different from the official ones were closed and dispersed,

        Yeah, shopping mall Dozhd, Ekho Moskvy, Kommersant ...
        Quote: Merold
        opposition politicians shot at Kremlin walls

        Yeah, they put them in ranks against the Kremlin wall and from machine guns ...
        Quote: Merold
        and life is not getting better and better ...

        Someone like. The bad dancers, for example, are interfered with by the genitals, and someone is punished for organizing unauthorized, that is, violating the Law, rallies.
        1. Merold
          Merold 9 May 2018 06: 44
          0
          Quote: Nick
          Quote: Merold
          That’s what’s happening in the country: they’ll “pile up” them with batons and give 2 of the year for the “enamel cleavage” to the policeman,

          And in a state of law, it should be so.

          There’s nothing to guess. Examples of such "there", as usual will not.
          Yeah, shopping mall Dozhd, Ekho Moskvy, Kommersant.

          Wow! As many as THREE names per country with "freedom of speech" and a population of 146 million people.
          Someone like. The bad dancers, for example, are interfered with by the genitals, and someone is punished for organizing unauthorized, that is, violating the Law, rallies.

          Was this an example of establishing life in the country? good
      7. 72jora72
        72jora72 9 May 2018 08: 24
        +4
        all media outlets with positions different from the official ones were closed and dispersed, opposition politicians were shot at the Kremlin walls,
        As I understand it, that in connection with the holiday, they made open doors in madhouses lol
      8. DeusExMachina
        DeusExMachina 9 May 2018 16: 04
        +2
        Until everything happens on the principle: dare to express disapproval / criticism of the actions of the authorities? - "traitor, fifth column, heaped up" and many more pleasant epithets. Dare to express disapproval / criticism towards the opposition? - "kremlebot, olga trolllo" and even more no less pleasant epithets
        it will be quite difficult to combine efforts
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 09: 50
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      Only they don’t understand us, they are fussing with traitors, bulkers, mares ..

      I don’t care, let them flick. All this "opposition" is needed for one purpose, so that the people can see all "these fighters in front of freedom." It’s easier to control all this “mold” when it is visible, it will be worse than the code they go underground, it is more difficult to control there. The Soviets, and even tsarist Russia, were "burnt" on precisely this.
      Here the question is different - we must learn from the experience of overseas "friends." There are about a dozen movements for independence. To begin with, as a hint, one of the secondary officials will meet "to get acquainted with the position" with some representative of such a movement. They don’t understand whether to open a representative office somewhere in the region, for example, Texas. I think this hint will be more intelligible.
      But ours will not go for it, we are doing a policy of "white gloves".
    3. sub307
      sub307 8 May 2018 10: 49
      0
      In order to take an “example from China”, you need to at least raise the population, otherwise it will lead to the fact that without a “wall” a plan to reduce the population will cost. Well, the economy has at least the second in the world ... in addition to ambition.
      1. Nick
        Nick 9 May 2018 05: 25
        0
        Quote: sub307
        In order to take an “example from China”, you need to at least raise the population, otherwise it will lead to the fact that without a “wall” a plan to reduce the population will cost.

        We have been growing for the last ten years, but slowly unfortunately.
        Quote: sub307
        Well, the economy has at least the second in the world ... in addition to ambition.

        According to the IMF, Russia's GDP, taking into account PPP and the gray economy, is in fourth place. A good result, given that the first three positions are the GDP of China, the United States, and India, calculated on the same principle. These countries are significantly superior to us in terms of population, which positively affects the size of their GDP.
    4. lopvlad
      lopvlad 9 May 2018 04: 46
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      traitors, bulkers, mares


      so it is heaped up for a quick collapse of Russia and the economic bloc of the Russian government for a slow collapse. So the Americans have everything going according to plan and the economic bloc of the Russian government is doing everything so that the Russian people are tired of the requisitions of tax officials and other creatures and demolish power in the Kremlin.
      So the fact that Russia did not collapse is not the merit of the authorities, but the patience of the Russian people, which can be fed with fairy tales.
      1. Nick
        Nick 9 May 2018 05: 36
        0
        Quote: lopvlad
        So the fact that Russia did not collapse is not the merit of the authorities, but the patience of the Russian people, which can be fed with fairy tales.

        I would say the patience and wisdom of the Russian people, which can not be fooled by fairy tales, like our Ukrainian "brothers" for example. Russians have long understood that well-being is at the heart of prosperity, and then everything else, power, politics, equitable distribution, technology, etc. In short, hoping for free is silly! Only for himself, and not for a good uncle in the Kremlin or in the White House ...
  2. Altona
    Altona 8 May 2018 07: 38
    +14
    As they rushing from their own ambitions. They think that if 30 years ago they had a ride, then this time too.
    1. Russia
      Russia 8 May 2018 07: 42
      +13
      Make a walker shake hands and forget about him, let him whine in the same spirit and in another place.
      1. forester
        forester 8 May 2018 08: 17
        +2
        Quote: Rusland
        Make a walker shake hands and forget about him, let him whine in the same spirit and in another place.

        Fuck him or what? I am for! laughing
        1. Nick
          Nick 9 May 2018 05: 41
          0
          Quote: forester
          Quote: Rusland
          Make a walker shake hands and forget about him, let him whine in the same spirit and in another place.

          Fuck him or what? I am for! laughing

          I’m not homophobic, BUT it's too much ... hi
    2. Equalized
      Equalized 8 May 2018 07: 46
      +6
      And others have the memory of fish, they think they won’t take it because Kiselev said so, although the USSR was much more powerful both from the ideological and military-political point of view. However, no one has succeeded in isolating themselves from the global market. It is for lovers to build a new iron curtain and isolate themselves from the evil Americans.

      Well all this will not end.
      1. Russia
        Russia 8 May 2018 07: 55
        +13
        And what Kiselev was given to you, for us, is that he says for a long time the obvious how the sun shines, but for you unfortunately it is not probable how the sun does not shine.
      2. Fayth
        Fayth 8 May 2018 08: 08
        +20
        For starters, it wouldn’t hurt to learn a story about who and how dropped this iron curtain, Fulton's speech and so on. And also to look at the western channels, what and how they say about Russia, Kiselev is resting. Write nonsense here with an air of understanding.
        1. farcop
          farcop 8 May 2018 10: 33
          0
          Quote: Fayth
          To begin with, you should learn a story
          Did the Americans build a wall in Berlin?
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE 8 May 2018 11: 32
            0
            and in the Vatican,
            quite the answer to the iron curtain, just something belated.
      3. Nick
        Nick 9 May 2018 05: 45
        +1
        Quote: Equalized
        However, no one has succeeded in isolating themselves from the global market. It is for lovers to build a new iron curtain and isolate themselves from the evil Americans.

        You confuse, e America is trying to isolate us. Fortunately, with electrical tape they have full seams, not enough ... request
    3. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Altona
      As they rushing from their own ambitions. They think that if 30 years ago they had a ride, then this time too.

      A ride this time, if we mumble about the partnership, and not give change. They took us seriously, and all of our “castles in the air” are being built at the UN and all Minsk groups there.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 8 May 2018 12: 46
        +4
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        Quote: Altona
        As they rushing from their own ambitions. They think that if 30 years ago they had a ride, then this time too.

        A ride this time, if we mumble about the partnership, and not give change. They took us seriously, and all of our “castles in the air” are being built at the UN and all Minsk groups there.

        Even if we stop mumbling and start giving back, we’ll lose all one sooner or later, because on this celebration of life (global imperialism led by the USA) we are strangers. It is necessary to change the "playing field", then there is a chance. After all, once they almost achieved their goal, only the Bolsheviks saved Russia from collapse. Because the capitalists do not care, their assets will be integrated into the global market from the territory of a single country or from "specific principalities".
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 13: 57
          0
          Quote: Doliva63
          on this celebration of life (global imperialism led by the USA) we are strangers. It is necessary to change the "playing field", then there is a chance.

          China has understood this and is now building its own system - the Silk Road. And we, as that substance in the hole, are trying to stick to any shore, where they will take for equal. And the point is not what ideology. Ideology, like democracy, is an instrument for achieving a goal, not an end in itself.
          Tsarist Russia lived in the coordinates of the "Third Rome", the only Orthodox kingdom of the Earth, among the Communists, the goal was the universal well-being of all mankind. What is our goal? Until there is a goal, it makes no sense to talk about ideology.
          Quote: Doliva63
          Because the capitalists do not care, their assets will be integrated into the global market from the territory of a single country or from "specific principalities".

          The capitalists do not care as long as the state is weak. The state apparatus is there to monitor the implementation of the law, it doesn’t matter whether someone likes it or not and not looking at the amount of money! By the way, China is successfully demonstrating this. There the Communists are in power, and the capitalists behave in the most approximate manner, and in the event of deviation from the party's course "to the wall"!
  3. Bare
    Bare 8 May 2018 07: 43
    +12
    A lot of people in Ukraine dream of leaving Russia as calmly as Crimea.
    Walker K. will not understand the situation, since the mentality is not Russian. drinks
    1. armourer
      armourer 8 May 2018 08: 40
      +2
      Calmly will not work already, do not have illusions
  4. Altona
    Altona 8 May 2018 07: 43
    +3
    Quote: 210ox
    An example of China must be taken, there, too, once they tried .... We were near the wall quickly ..

    ---------------------------------
    In China, they understand that at first the basis, and then the superstructure. And not vice versa.
    1. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 8 May 2018 08: 22
      +2
      In China, they understand that at first the basis, and then the superstructure. And not vice versa.

      It is right and logical if you think and make decisions for the future, so to speak, to proactively act.
      Those. first organize a "wall", then "path to the wall", well, and after:
      210qu:
      Who would doubt it ... Only they don’t understand, they are fussing with traitors, jacks, mares .. We need to take an example of China, they also tried it there once .... We were quickly near the wall ...

      And, we even have a referendum (!), In fact, banned back in the presidency of Medvedev.
      1. andj61
        andj61 8 May 2018 09: 50
        0
        Quote: Pax tecum
        And, we even have a referendum (!), In fact, banned back in the presidency of Medvedev.

        In fact, the referendum is held in accordance with the Constitution and the Law on the Referendum. It is not easy to conduct it - you need to create a regional group of 100 people, register it in the election commission, then register subgroups of no more than 100 people in at least 45 constituent entities of the Federation, hold a meeting, register the entire initiative group in the election commission, raise 45 million in 2 days signatures in support - and a referendum is being held. It was not harder for Prokhorov in 2012 to collect 2 million signatures in his support.
        A referendum cannot be held on any question (why should people be distracted on a day off?) - the question should be urgent and interest people. A regional or local referendum is easier. hi
  5. Dimy4
    Dimy4 8 May 2018 07: 45
    +7
    You can’t buy us for chewing gum and jeans. Wiser.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 8 May 2018 07: 57
      +12
      Quote: Dimy4
      On the gum and jeans we can not buy.

    2. Russia
      Russia 8 May 2018 07: 59
      +7
      Yes, and “Birch” has long been closed, Sonya’s mafons on the drum.
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 8 May 2018 08: 32
        +5
        It seems that the current Russian elite has nothing to offer in return, at the end of the 1980-beginning of the 1990-x there was now something to offer.
        "Standing at the helm" of Russia now themselves can offer the West anything, can show, and even "put on the counter" if desired, would be the will ...
        Now they defend theirs ("acquired by overwork"), their real assets and values ​​(not to be confused with the electorate, as the feed base and political foundation of the legal (but not legitimate) existence of "elites", no matter how cynical it sounds.
        What is the meaning of something they "pass" in Russia now? After all, the West, too, now does not give security guarantees, and can make in its interests a "sacred sacrifice" ...
  6. Alex66
    Alex66 8 May 2018 07: 49
    +14
    Well, it looks like Volker is right and we ourselves will ruin Medvedev Prime Minister, Mutko the builder. Everything is going on as in Krylov’s fable, instead of hiring professionals, we are changing the places of “our own” GDP.
    1. gaura
      gaura 8 May 2018 08: 03
      +4
      instead of hiring professionals

      To hire? belay Where and to whom? I understand approximately when they say that among 140 million you can find 10 good candidates, but to “hire” is already something beyond the limits!
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 8 May 2018 08: 16
        +5
        Quote: gaura
        I understand approximately when they say that among 140 million you can find 10 good candidates, but to “hire” is already something beyond the limits!

        And you can’t hire your own? What do you dig into words. The meaning is completely clear. Where does it say that you need to hire from abroad?
        1. gaura
          gaura 8 May 2018 09: 50
          +2
          And here it is not "completely clear." Because: 1. who to hire, who is a professional? Can you name at least one successful manager? Me not. Tuleyev was successful in the 90, when he resisted the seizure of power by crime, but people didn’t get easier from this.
          2. why "hire" and not assign / find? hire mercenaries, i.e. absolutely strangers.
      2. den3080
        den3080 8 May 2018 08: 28
        +7
        Yes. It's funny. Mutko ... Golikova ... But Tatyana Alekseevna Golikova was already the Minister of Health and Social Development for 5! years held this post. And she earned a lot of “flattering” reviews from famous Russian doctors for lack of professionalism and a complete misunderstanding of what she was in charge of. But she managed to earn money, Everything in the family, as they say, was not without reason received the nickname "Madame Arbidol".
        They called Mr. Borisov to the defense industry complex ... illogical !!! although most likely I, mere mortal, just do not know lol
        it’s logical that everything is going on, it would be to pull Serdyukov to the vice-premieres of the defense industry complex and, in addition, let him supervise the RF Ministry of Defense proper ... for he did not finish the job in due time.
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 8 May 2018 09: 39
          0
          It's funny. Mutko ... Golikova ...

          The fun is just beginning, for example, Ksenia Anatolevna
      3. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 8 May 2018 08: 37
        +3
        As A.I. Fursov said: "... either the 37th or the 17th. I put on the 37th"
        1. den3080
          den3080 8 May 2018 08: 42
          +3
          Volcker doesn’t need to ruin anything either ... Russia itself will fall apart, from the inside, as usual. And even the deadline is clear, 6-8 years left.
          It's a shame.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 8 May 2018 10: 34
            +3
            Nor are there any tendencies for collapse and there will never be. So, you can dream further.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 8 May 2018 12: 50
          +4
          Quote: Pax tecum
          As A.I. Fursov said: "... either the 37th or the 17th. I put on the 37th"

          Without the 17th there will be not the 37th, but the 34th.
  7. cedar
    cedar 8 May 2018 07: 50
    +6
    Everything is natural ... American mega-corporations require resources, which are less and less on the planet. Russia for them is a huge pantry of resources, which must belong to them rightfully strong ... They are like hungry wolves ...
    It is necessary to reduce the wolf population, otherwise they will devour everything and everyone.
  8. 1536
    1536 8 May 2018 07: 57
    +4
    There is a Russian proverb: "Do not swarm the grave of another, you yourself will fall into it."
    Nevertheless, it turned out to be great with the Crimea! There is only one conclusion: it’s up to the people and the people, no matter how these American walkers and their own home-grown “predators” try to deceive him.
    1. gaura
      gaura 8 May 2018 08: 05
      +5
      The people themselves are few that can decide. Political will is needed for everything, so many specialists must be gathered on the peninsula. And not just the people sailed away somewhere. Donbass didn’t come to us.
      1. 1536
        1536 8 May 2018 09: 34
        0
        Dear, the people themselves can decide everything. And your “specialists” are also representatives of this people, unless, of course, you came from Garmeshpartenkirchen or Langley.
        Do you know why Crimea so easily “sailed away”, as you say, i.e. to Russia. Very simple. People from Crimea live in Crimea and think about Crimea, they don’t want to go anywhere, they don’t want to steal and deceive, having arrived “Varangians” in other states or territories. Self-sufficient they are these people of Crimea. What can not be said about people in Ukraine. So it seems there that "the people are few that can decide." If there were people, there would be solutions. (Vivid examples: Germany and Korea)
        1. gaura
          gaura 8 May 2018 15: 48
          0
          A vivid example of a people’s decision is a referendum on the preservation of the USSR. Spit on the people, The second example is the war in Chechnya, the authorities spat on all the protests against the war. War was needed for enrichment. Can you, besides the Crimea, in which the government was interested, give examples of the power of the people?
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 09: 59
        +1
        Quote: gaura
        Donbass didn’t come to us.

        Yes, Donbass would be glad to "sail", but he doesn’t need one who was inaugurated yesterday. If it were needed already in 2014. would become part of Russia.
  9. AID.S
    AID.S 8 May 2018 08: 02
    +4
    Nothing new has been announced. Crimea penguins do not recognize. How we do not recognize Kosovo. Bottom line, we need to move further our borders. Let them not recognize.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 10: 09
      0
      Quote: AID.S
      Crimea penguins do not recognize. How we do not recognize Kosovo.

      The concepts are not equivalent: Crimea is part of Russia, Kosovo is the occupied territory of another state, not like not claiming to become part of the United States. If you compare the Crimea and Texas (or the territory of the former Confederation).
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 9 May 2018 06: 35
        0
        Does this mean that the United States recognizes Crimea as Russian? No. Does this mean that we recognize Kosovo? And with Texas, the issue of recognition / non-recognition is not worth it.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 9 May 2018 18: 02
          0
          Quote: AID.S
          Does this mean that the United States recognizes Crimea as Russian?

          To the scum. These are their problems.
          Quote: AID.S
          And with Texas, the issue of recognition / non-recognition is not worth it.

          So you need to "put". I say: we must take an example. Americans know how to create problems out of nothing, so we need to do the same. I heard that in the case of the separation of Texas, its economy will be the tenth in the world.
  10. Evil 55
    Evil 55 8 May 2018 08: 03
    +3

    This is our story, our life and our future .. And you have to fight for it ..
  11. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 8 May 2018 08: 05
    +8
    something tells me that the United States itself is on the verge of such events and there is simply not enough impetus for this whole house of cards of the evil empire to begin to fall apart.
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 8 May 2018 08: 09
      0
      We ourselves would not be that colossus with feet of clay.
  12. Terenin
    Terenin 8 May 2018 08: 06
    +6
    "Europe will not recognize him!" - “It will be strong - everyone will recognize” (trailer excerpt -Ivan ...)
  13. sustav75
    sustav75 8 May 2018 08: 07
    +1
    Quote: Bere
    A lot of people in Ukraine dream of leaving Russia as calmly as Crimea.
    Walker K. will not understand the situation, since the mentality is not Russian. drinks

    You rave! Who wants this interestingly in a country where Medvedev’s appointment wisely spits in the face of all normal people! Do not make people laugh! And don't be funny yourself ...
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 9 May 2018 01: 14
      +1
      When you live under the Power of Potroshenko and the Nazis, I agree with Medvedev and Mudko, just to escape from poverty and blood
  14. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 May 2018 08: 08
    +3
    According to Volcker, sanctions against Russia are "a message to Moscow that the United States is not going to put up with the actions of the Russian authorities against Ukraine."

    What bold reasoning ... belay So you can say with a "royal flash" on hand. What is so "terrible" that the overseas country can threaten in the middle of which Yellowstone swells, and the coast is open to ocean waves? What is trying to provoke?
    It may turn out that inadequate US actions and connivance of the Russian authorities will lead to grave consequences. Territorial claims should not be accepted under any circumstances. And the United States is time to remove from the lists of invitees.
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 8 May 2018 08: 41
      +1
      What is scary? For example, agree with Europe not to buy Russian gas and oil, as well as limit the supply of other products (such as electronics, medicines, and so on). And we sit in a puddle.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 10: 20
        +1
        Quote: NordOst16
        For example, agree with Europe not to buy Russian gas and oil.

        "Reach an agreement"? Do you really believe that Europe will voluntarily conduct such an agreement?
        Quote: NordOst16
        as well as limit the supply of other products (such as electronics, medicines, and so on).

        What do you think Siemens, Bosh, Alcatel, Avaya, Mercedes, BMW etc will want to cede our market to ZTE, Fly, Huawei, Lifan, FAW, Geely, Great Wall etc?
        Now, if they want to, then they "sit in a puddle" THEY, and not us.
        1. NordOst16
          NordOst16 8 May 2018 12: 02
          0
          Well, the US market is large, machine tools print money properly. Where to bribe, where to threaten. And the Russian market, although large, is far from being the most in the world.
          And to ask the PRC for help in such a situation is to sell the soul to the devil, for he will not miss the moment to return what the PRC considers illegally taken from him. There they can also remember about the “Chinese Crimea”.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 8 May 2018 14: 04
            +1
            Quote: NordOst16
            And the Russian market, although large, is far from being the most in the world.

            Well, not the largest, but not the smallest. The loss, even of such a market, is a sensitive blow for many companies.
            Quote: NordOst16
            And to ask the PRC for help in such a situation is to sell the soul to the devil, for he will not miss the moment to return what the PRC considers illegally taken from him.

            And who will ask? The Chinese will be here the very next day after the departure of the Europeans, and without an invitation, they know how to count money, and the United States does not have a decree in this matter. And this is not about help from China, but consolidation in the market, after the departure of competitors.
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 8 May 2018 16: 53
              0
              Well, well, that's just how much quality substitute goods will be from China? And while the PRC, when financing projects, will dictate their terms
    2. Merold
      Merold 8 May 2018 08: 44
      +3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Why so overseas country can threaten,.

      For example: tomorrow Russia will cease to supply seed. What will you eat?
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 8 May 2018 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: Merold
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Why so overseas country can threaten,.

        For example: tomorrow Russia will cease to supply seed. What will you eat?

        Non-GMO then we will eat. We are not supplied with the entire sowing crop Western countries, do not be cunning, but without GMO corn and sunflower (the share of their supply is estimated at 65% for 2016), potatoes that were 90% in 2016 (now less) will hold out or outbid.

        The stock of seeds is still stored at the "Combine", and seeds, by the way, which allows you to use them as negotiable. The production of any seed material can be divided into two stages: selection and seed production. The first is engaged in the cultivation of new varieties, the second by their mass reproduction. Selection - with this we are more or less in order, research institutes are kept and working, it’s really shaky, there is a reserve for breeding. The second is worse, and time is needed for this, although the program has been tightly engaged since the age of 16 and by the age of 20 there will already be results.
        And if they introduce it, it’s for the better, to be honest. Let Thunder come, let, then, the Man cross himself))
        Outputs:
        Not so scary.
        In general, a significant part of the seeds imported into Russia is domestic varieties, which are grown by order of our firms in China, with the exception of potatoes, corn, sugar beets, and sunflower. And China, as it sold to us, will continue to sell. For seed potatoes, I doubt that Belarus, for example, will refuse to sell it to us (a share of about 10%, but only because the Dutch varieties are more productive (their share is 50%). And then we already have shifts:
        examples:
        - From the beginning of the program, a potato union was created on the basis of Malino OJSC. Drive into the search engine (Malino OJSC). Russian varieties are already offered.
        -Created a test nursery of varieties and samples in the suburbs. This is a joint project of the UN Economic Commission for Europe and the All-Russian Research Institute of Potato Economy named after A.G. Lorha. Now he is already offering Russian seeds (drive into the search engine - A.G. Lorch).

        These are only those that I heard about, but I am far from this topic ..
        So that is not so bad.
        1. Merold
          Merold 8 May 2018 12: 57
          0
          Quote: Orkraider
          And then we already have shifts:
          examples:
          - From the beginning of the program, a potato union was created on the basis of Malino OJSC. Drive into the search engine (Malino OJSC). .

          So?
          So, for example, the Malino group of companies, one of the largest potato producers in Russia, works entirely on imported seed
          https://vstanzaveru.ru/dyakin-a-v-ugrozyi-prodovo
          lstvennoy-bezopasnosti-rossii-vneshniy-faktor /

          Quote: Orkraider

          So that is not so bad.

          I haven’t told you about Russia's dependence on the West in livestock and poultry farming.
          1. Orkraider
            Orkraider 8 May 2018 14: 23
            +1
            Quote: Merold
            Quote: Orkraider
            And then we already have shifts:
            examples:
            - From the beginning of the program, a potato union was created on the basis of Malino OJSC. Drive into the search engine (Malino OJSC). .

            So?
            So, for example, the Malino group of companies, one of the largest potato producers in Russia, works entirely on imported seed
            https://vstanzaveru.ru/dyakin-a-v-ugrozyi-prodovo
            lstvennoy-bezopasnosti-rossii-vneshniy-faktor /

            Quote: Orkraider

            So that is not so bad.

            I haven’t told you about Russia's dependence on the West in livestock and poultry farming.

            You didn’t figure it out and provide incorrect information, I would even say that it’s false. There is a big difference between the Malino Chips Production Group and the Malino Potato Union.
            I disassemble in detail:
            For fries, they use only 15 varieties with the lowest sugar content, ”says Chef Artem Vlasov. - Only such potatoes are crispy and crispy, with a golden crust. In Russia, “Innovator” and “Santana” are involved. Every year we import from Europe 25–35 thousand tons (now, after the imposition of sanctions, according to a certain scheme) of seeds of superelite and elite. But you need to understand that in 2–3 seasons these tons turn into a serious volume (300–500 thousand tons), the yield from which then goes to shops, - reveals the secrets of the domestic potato growing Krasilnikov.
            How this happens, see:
            What is included in the Malino group:
            1. LLC Bogoroditsky Alliance.
            open the link and watch [media = http: // http: //www.bogoroditsk-alliance.ru/
            o-company.html]
            Established in 2008.
            Since 2009, with the support of the agricultural holding “Malino,” it has been planting foreign varieties — trial 130 hectares of seeds of potato chips of varieties: Lady Claire, Lady Rosetta, Hermes, Saturn.
            In 2014, Bogoroditsky Alliance LLC became one of the leaders in the elite potato growing industry, producing 70% of the total volume of seed potatoes grown in the Tula Region. In the spring of 2014, the company provided seed potatoes for planting 60 large and small farms throughout the country from the south to the Ural Mountains. In 2014, Bogoroditsky Alliance LLC cultivated 20 varieties of seed potatoes: Red Scarlett, Impala, Gala, Nevsky, Vega, Molly, Panther, Picasso, Riviera, Roco, Sifra, Innovator, Lady Claire, Lady Rosetta, Newton, Saturn, Shelford , VR-808, Brooke, Hermes.
            In 2015, in the spring, the company provided seed potatoes for planting already 70 large and small farms throughout the country, from Kaliningrad to the Ural Mountains. Bogoroditsky Alliance LLC was recognized as the best organization of the agro-industrial complex of the Tula region and was awarded a commemorative cup.

            Thus, YOU is confused and you give me an incorrect link.
            Meanwhile, the difference between:
            * Growing elite seed potatoes produced and sourced from Europe (for chips)
            и
            * Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties.
            Is it true?

            Therefore, I can say that you look very superficially and also evaluate ...
            I did not say that we completely closed the topic of potatoes, I wrote that work in this direction is underway and the results are already visible.
            1. Orkraider
              Orkraider 8 May 2018 14: 30
              +1
              [quote = Orkraider] [quote = Merold] [quote = Orkraider]. [/ quote]

              Therefore, I can say that you look very superficially and also evaluate ...
              I did not say that we completely closed the topic of potatoes, I wrote that work in this direction is underway and the results are already visible. [/ Quote]

              and by the way, since I had to explain the truths:
              Reproduction from the Originator is fast enough, and if necessary, reducing the class of potatoes, you can quickly replace the import and provide seed for the farm.
              As a result of the panic, as an example to you, a letter from the Potato Union leadership about an oversupply of produced RUSSIAN potatoes and a request to keep barrage duties on imports [media = https: //www.welikepotato.ru/news/information
              I-from-Union-Potato-breeders-Samara-region-o-heavy
              sale-potato-sale-situations]


              Thus, if it’s quite simple to say: Take a ton of potato, place it in a humid environment so that the eyes form, then it is chopped into 10-15 parts and you get the seed, which in cases of the ban on the import of seed potatoes will saturate the Russian market and allow you to harvest which will not let hunger come.
            2. Merold
              Merold 9 May 2018 08: 51
              0
              Quote: Orkraider
              You didn’t figure it out and provide incorrect information, I would even say that it’s false. There is a big difference between the Malino Chips Production Group and the Malino Potato Union.
              .

              Firstly. Did you write this?
              - From the beginning of the program, a potato union was created on the basis of Malino OJSC. Drive into the search engine (OJSC "Malino").

              I drove. Got a response.
              the Malino group of companies, for example, works entirely on imported seed

              Did I do something wrong as you advised?

              Secondly.
              Thus, YOU is confused and you give me an incorrect link.
              Meanwhile, the difference between:
              * Growing elite seed potatoes produced and sourced from Europe (for chips)
              и
              * Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties.
              Is it true?
              Therefore, I can say that you look very superficially and also evaluate ...

              Seriously? And so?
              Annually Our specialists purchase original seeds European selection companies (Norika, HZPC Sadokas, Agrico), propagated to the elite and reproductive categories and provide seeds of the economy of the native Tula land and all of Russia.

              http://www.bogoroditsk-alliance.ru/о-компании.htm
              I look forward to further clarification of "common truths." request
              1. Orkraider
                Orkraider 10 May 2018 11: 36
                0
                [quote = Merold] [quote = Orkraider]
                I look forward to further clarification of "common truths." request[/ Quote]
                I have already answered.
                You did not even study my text, but immediately went into casuistry.
                Everything is written above, [quote] I analyze in detail:
                For fries, they use only 15 varieties with the lowest sugar content, ”says Chef Artem Vlasov. - Only such potatoes are crispy and crispy, with a golden crust. In Russia, “Innovator” and “Santana” are involved. Every year we import from Europe 25–35 thousand tons (now, after the imposition of sanctions, according to a certain scheme) of seeds of superelite and elite. But you need to understand that in 2–3 seasons these tons turn into a serious volume (300–500 thousand tons), the harvest from which then goes to shops, - reveals the secrets of the domestic potato growing Krasilnikov. [/ Quote]
                I explicitly indicated that:
                [quote] Meanwhile, the difference between:
                * Growing elite seed potatoes produced and sourced from Europe (for chips)
                и
                * Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties.
                Is it true? [/ Quote]
                Also, I indicated that
                [quote = Orkraider] I did not say that we completely closed the topic of potatoes, I wrote that work in this direction is underway and the results are already visible. [/ quote]

                In general, everyone finds what he is looking for.
                With your approach to the discussion, conducting a dialogue with you is unproductive. hi
                1. Merold
                  Merold 10 May 2018 11: 54
                  0
                  Orkraider
                  Are you reading what you are trying to comment on?
                  I explicitly indicated that:
                  Meanwhile, the difference between:
                  * Growing elite seed potatoes produced and sourced from Europe (for chips)
                  и
                  * Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties.
                  Is it true?

                  What difference is there? I’ve already chewed everything for you and put it in your mouth, and you go around in circles! And for potatoes for chips and for "Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties." используются imported seeds.
                  I even gave you a link to the statement of the Director General of Bogoroditsky Alliance LLC Lavrentyev Nikolai Viktorovich that for what the Bogoroditsky Alliance provides the economy of its region and country, IMPORTED seeds are used.
                  Annually our specialists purchase original seeds of European breeding companies (Norika, HZPC Sadokas, Agrico), propagated to an elite and reproductive category and provide seeds economy of the native Tula land and all of Russia.

                  Farewell. Learn to read what you post as an argument.
  15. Abram
    Abram 8 May 2018 08: 09
    +2
    "the actual annexation of Kosovo"? Is this some kind of new legal term? and who "annexed" it, where can I see the documents, which country did it belong to? smile
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 8 May 2018 08: 15
    +3
    Well, judging by the emerging candidates for the new government of Russia, this Walker is quite optimistic about the future ... Unlike us ...
  17. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 8 May 2018 08: 22
    0
    No matter how much a walker feeds, he looks in sanction.
  18. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 8 May 2018 08: 24
    +1
    Surkov’s communication with this moron humiliates Russia!
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 8 May 2018 09: 05
      -1
      For me, marmots does not represent and does not personify my homeland Russia! He represents only Putin and his aligarhat ...
  19. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 8 May 2018 08: 25
    +2
    Yes, they did it 30 years ago, and it can do it now!
    Do not believe me?
    My arguments: there are more traitors now than there were in the nineties,
    where do they keep their capital?
    Where is the property?
    Where do the children of "rich Pinocchio" study?
    Where do families live?
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 8 May 2018 08: 39
      0
      Her, the red banner in the hands and on the barricades - to build a fair society.
  20. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 8 May 2018 08: 27
    +1
    Anglo-Saxons: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand are always allies despite disagreements. Slavs: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia - each for itself and universal srach. In today's complex world, the ability to create alliances is important as always. We, having lifted our nose high, (recalling the stupid proverb of a stupid king about the army and navy as the only allies), we pin out our last friends, others scatter ourselves as if they were plague. Pride may one day destroy Russia, which Volcker so dreams of.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 8 May 2018 09: 20
      -1
      Russia has long been not the core of Slavism. The Russian word has become little used (we can hurt the feelings and souls of other nationalities) with the Orthodox Church also constantly, some bad stories. No IDEAS! No RUSSIAN idea! Putin is afraid of her. Although before, many called themselves Russian, not being such in essence. And Putin’s idea of ​​Russians as a nation is utopia ...
      1. den3080
        den3080 8 May 2018 10: 03
        0
        “Dear Russians ...” this is Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin uttered a twig. But if you look at the Western media now, then Russia and russians are one of the most popular words. In a negative context, with fear and so on, but still ...
        And as before, for the West and the whole world, any Russian citizen or just a Russian-speaking person is “Russian”, despite the type of person and other little things.
        So what about the lack of a rod - your untruth.
        However, like the "American" - regardless of whether he is Italian, Irish, Scot, Mexican, German, French, Russian or Vinita the leader of the Apache ...
        Or "Chinese" - ask how many peoples and languages ​​are there.
  21. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 May 2018 08: 28
    +4
    The Baltic countries were occupied by the Soviet Union for decades, and in the end, everything changed.

    ... and now the geyropoy is occupied .. wassat
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 8 May 2018 08: 37
      +2
      Oh, we would live like in Geyrop people live.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 May 2018 08: 41
        +5
        NordOst16 (Vladislav) Today, 08: 37 ↑
        Oh, we would live like in Geyrop people live.

        ... and who is holding? request ... to the geyropu - and "oh live" ...
        1. NordOst16
          NordOst16 8 May 2018 08: 44
          +2
          Yes, it’s with joy, only you need to dig up money)))
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 May 2018 08: 45
            +4
            NordOst16 (Vladislav) Today, 08: 44 ↑ New
            Yes, with joy, only need to save money)))

            ... in passing ...
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 8 May 2018 12: 03
              0
              - Is the West rotting?
              -Yes, it rots, but how beautiful.

              The question is, what then will remain from the Russian Federation if everyone leaves)))
    2. den3080
      den3080 8 May 2018 10: 16
      0
      In the Baltic countries today, the common chip, as far as I know wink They all undertook to celebrate 100 years of their independence this year. laughing Who suggested this to them, wrote a training manual - understandably. It looks funny, by golly.
      The truth is even more wretched and wildly looks Russian Independence Day.
      WHO is independence, dear RUSSIANS?
  22. NordOst16
    NordOst16 8 May 2018 08: 37
    +2
    That's just the Crimea was captured. And it was the same aggression as the aggression of NATO forces in Kosovo, Libya and Syria.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 May 2018 08: 54
      +2
      NordOst16 (Vladislav) Today, 08: 37 That's just the Crimea was captured. And it was the same aggression as the aggression of NATO forces in Kosovo, Libya and Syria

      ... it's clear where the northeast comes from ... angry
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 8 May 2018 10: 57
        +3
        Quote: aszzz888
        it’s clear where the northeast comes from ... angry

        This one? laughing Well - blowing ... Blowing. It smells.
        1. NordOst16
          NordOst16 8 May 2018 12: 05
          0
          Maybe it’s blowing, but where am I wrong?
      2. NordOst16
        NordOst16 8 May 2018 12: 04
        0
        Come on, maybe you can show me on what point of the UN Charter - are these military operations legal?
        And yes, do not you think that the situation with the Donbass is very similar to the war in Chechnya?
  23. shark
    shark 8 May 2018 08: 42
    +3
    But Volkers do not need to do anything. We ourselves will fall apart at such a pace. In principle, the USSR itself fell apart. In both cases, the rotten elite of the state of Russia is to blame.
  24. sustav75
    sustav75 8 May 2018 08: 45
    +2
    Quote: shark
    Great idea. Totally agree with you. For the country must keep up, with a single hang of the day. And those to blather is not necessary to the wall. Siberia is great.

    I am a resident of Siberia! Stop mentioning Siberia as a zone or colony! Not tired !? AND? Resident of Muscovy. What are you without Siberia, the Urals and the Far East !!!
  25. gukoyan
    gukoyan 8 May 2018 08: 47
    +1
    So here it’s open ... The USSR was destroyed only because of puppets in the government. I wonder how history turned if Humpbacked did not collapse, but Yeltsin did not drink ...
  26. Miflecet
    Miflecet 8 May 2018 09: 24
    +2
    There are various options for reporting and transmitting information. And misinformation. As well as there are various options for responding to it. And now the scatter of opinions of visitors to the site: from "you can’t live like this" to "to the wall of all those who disagree." But over the centuries, another mechanism has been developed for assessing the reality of this or that information: who benefits? And the reality of checking information is verified by the objective actions of the opponent. In the context of the publication and Walker's words, some subjective assumptions can be made. God forbid, do not speak the ultimate truth. I will try. Why is the collapse of Russia beneficial and to whom? The Russian Federation occupies one sixth of the planet; the main reserves of all raw materials are concentrated in this country. The USA, Europe and China would not refuse to get to Russian bins and territories in conditions of overpopulation of the Earth, globalization, to turn Russia into a raw material base. I will make a reservation at once: Europe has a small intestine. According to Arnold Toynbee, she entered the sunset. The temptation is great: Russia's GDP is 1 trillion. 300 billion dollars. The United States and China in absolute terms are 15-16 times more. In terms of per capita GDP, even worse. Compare Israel and Russia. But in an open, classical war, moreover, with the use of unconventional weapons, no one can win a victory over Russia. Russia is also unlikely to win, as in 1945 - today.: Other weapons and other realities. The costs will be very large, and perhaps irreversible, for all participants in the global conflict, and not just for Russia or the states. Once again: I doubt that someone will definitely win. And everyone will lose. Therefore, another method was adopted. Opponents of the Russian Federation believe that a country can be weakened by an arms race, creating centers of instability around its borders and outside borders, and economic sanctions. With a serious difference in the economic potentials of opponents and corruption in the vertical of power of the Russian Federation, conditions will be created for destabilization from the inside out. Plus, the Islamic factor, possible separatist sentiments within the country. But all this, as for me, is not enough for the states to cope with Russia. The decisive role is played by the position of China. While the king of monkeys is waiting, watching the battle between two tigers. But if the cards are successfully laid down, then the guys from the Middle Kingdom will not miss a chance. So far, the union of states and China is impossible: irreconcilable economic competitors. But it is still today.
    The case may of course have whims, but there are no habits. Something, I don’t really believe that everything that happens in the world: both around Russia and away from its borders is a chain of accidents. What is happening, it reminds me personally of a chess gambit, in which the acceptance of the victim by the opponent, as conceived by the opponent, should lead to his defeat. The territorial acquisitions of Russia, the strengthening of its influence in Syria - perhaps this is the very victim of material on chess terminology. This is an additional material burden on the economy. And what comes of this, who knows? The GDP, in the hearts of one, openly expressed the assumption that crazy pudgy professors are sitting behind a puddle and experimenting on humanity, like experimental rabbits. Not excluded.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 8 May 2018 10: 43
      0
      Quote: Mifletset
      that mad highbrow professors sit behind a puddle and experiment on humanity, like guinea pigs
      If anyone is experimenting with humanity, then at least they are the masters of the world capitalist system, into which Russia has now climbed. Therefore, we want to have a multipolar world, independence, we must go out of the rules of others, from a foreign system. There is no longer the Soviet Union, fell formidable in battles, without uncovering the swords of the squad ... We were outplayed by the West, won ideologically, fooled, bought for "glass beads", like those Indians. It was necessary to go through this, the masks were dropped, it is already clear to everyone that the West does not need a strong Russia, neither with the tsar, nor with the communists, nor with the democrats. Here, also for the West, “a good Indian is a dead Indian”, and a good Russia, if not dead, is clearly not strong and prosperous. The Russians, for the most part, sincerely believed the Americans, could be faithful and reliable allies, but the Russian West simply, as they say, spat into the soul, shat into the outstretched palm. A blessing in disguise ... Otherwise it would not have come. To whom the renewed socialism is sickened, let it be capitalism with a human face, but Russia needs to crawl out of the dollar, out of the bondage of rules and conditions defective for the country, for someone else's good and someone else's domination invented. If we can, it will save not only Russia, but the whole world, from the absolute evil that world capitalism has become, with transnational monopolies, and clans of world ghouls of billionaires.
    2. Antares
      Antares 8 May 2018 11: 26
      0
      Quote: Mifletset
      To get to the Russian bins and territories in conditions of overpopulation of the Earth, globalization, to turn Russia into a raw material base, the United States, Europe and China would not refuse

      easier to buy and cheaper than fighting. What these countries are doing, and they are willingly selling more and more resources. The trouble is that countries that are higher in style are looking for markets and consumers, and commodity countries have a small number of consumers of modern goods and services. So the conditional “West” / China is not profitable for the collapse of the Russian Federation. Completely satisfied with the delivery of nuclear weapons. Resources are bought, influence is lost, domestic politics is far from gaining, foreign is “5s plus below zero” and all this is spiced up with information propaganda about “greatness” and victories on all fronts. The elector is full and satisfied with the picture. The West has its own problems above the roof. They themselves need the Russian Federation as a scarecrow and counterweight and a reliable supplier of resources for dollars and euros.
  27. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 8 May 2018 09: 34
    +1
    Russian intelligence agencies need to create a whole ministry for the collapse of the United States into individual states. Only in this way will Russia be able to withstand state aggression not only against Russia but also all states and countries across the globe.
  28. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 May 2018 10: 15
    +1
    Walker confirmed the main goal of the United States ...
    When you try to bite off a piece that you can’t survive, there is a huge chance of choking. What I wish Volker and the United States as a whole.
  29. alfa19638
    alfa19638 8 May 2018 10: 38
    0
    Everything is true it is not clear why the country's leadership does not want to hear and see the real situation, it is time to change them all
  30. sanches-nk
    sanches-nk 8 May 2018 11: 46
    0
    Once their empire will lie on its side, and everyone who is looking into their mouths will throw stones at them and wipe their feet ...
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  32. CYM
    CYM 8 May 2018 19: 39
    0
    "Kurt Walker, in fact, openly stated that the main goal of the United States is the collapse of the Russian Federation in the image of the collapse of the Soviet Union." Has anyone doubted this? And the means to prevent this have long been known. Cleaning up Western liberals and owners of foreign assets at the top. Cleaning up "elites" in national republics (following the example of Dagestan). Ideally, the abolition of national republics and a return to the provincial principle of dividing the territory. But who will do it? sad
  33. cat Baiyun.
    cat Baiyun. 9 May 2018 07: 47
    0
    First, the mattresses will be divided into states, am and we still think whether we need it bully
  34. Simon
    Simon 9 May 2018 08: 23
    +1
    And the navel will not untie itself from Volker overvoltage from overvoltage and its dullness. He cannot understand, the more sanctions against us - the stronger we become! fool tongue
  35. Olga Donovina
    Olga Donovina 9 May 2018 13: 35
    0
    The pinup is so funny. Let him first deal with the return of Texas and Kosovo. Crimea has already been returned. _________ How much pain is blown off painfully.
  36. Orkraider
    Orkraider 12 May 2018 22: 00
    0
    Quote: Merold
    Orkraider
    Are you reading what you are trying to comment on?
    I explicitly indicated that:
    Meanwhile, the difference between:
    * Growing elite seed potatoes produced and sourced from Europe (for chips)
    и
    * Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties.
    Is it true?

    What difference is there? I’ve already chewed everything for you and put it in your mouth, and you go around in circles! And for potatoes for chips and for "Production of seed potatoes with the selection and testing of new, promising varieties." используются imported seeds.
    I even gave you a link to the statement of the Director General of Bogoroditsky Alliance LLC Lavrentyev Nikolai Viktorovich that for what the Bogoroditsky Alliance provides the economy of its region and country, IMPORTED seeds are used.
    Annually our specialists purchase original seeds of European breeding companies (Norika, HZPC Sadokas, Agrico), propagated to an elite and reproductive category and provide seeds economy of the native Tula land and all of Russia.

    Farewell. Learn to read what you post as an argument.

    Nude Nude. Goodbye. You still did not understand the difference and did not bother to look at the list of varieties for propagation and I will return yours to you: learn to read and listen to others.
    About chewing: Chew yourself your chewing gum, okay?