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Kaiser Wilhelm's Paris Cannon

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Like many other implemented utopian ideas, the supergun awaited an unenviable fate: the Germans destroyed all the tools and technical documentation immediately after the conclusion of peace, which automatically translated it into a category of legends.


The difficult origin of the Colossal gun began in 1916, when Professor Eberhardt came to the design headquarters of the Krupp plant with the proposal to create a gun firing at 100 km. Theoretically, the professors' calculations showed that 100-kilogram projectiles should be beaten at the enemy with an initial velocity of 1600 m / s. The unpleasant air resistance was supposed to be overcome by sending a projectile to the heights of the upper boundary of the stratosphere (about 40 km), where the thinness of the air envelope increased the range of the shot. Three quarters of the flight of the projectile to the target should have been held just in the stratosphere - for this, Eberhardt proposed to raise the barrel of the gun by an angle of at least 500. It is noteworthy that the professor in his project even took into account an amendment to the rotation of the Earth, vital to gunners, taking into account the time the projectile approached the target. The German elite together with the industrialists Krupp believed Eberhardt and installed him 14 months to make guns for the destruction of Paris. It is worth making a small patriotic retreat and point out the design of an ultra-long-range gun (more than 100 km) proposed by Russian military engineer V. M. Trofimov back in the 1911 year, which, as has happened more than once, was rejected.

Kaiser Wilhelm's Paris Cannon
Ultra-long gun "Colossal". Source: secrethistory.su


The Krupp plant in Essen (under the direction of director Rausenberg) was engaged in the practical embodiment of the German ultra-long-range gun, and at the very beginning of the project, the choice was made in favor of ready-made barrels of 35-cm naval guns, which, with minor modifications, were to become the basis of the future Parisian cannon of Kaiser Wilhelm. However, while the prototype was being designed, by 1916 the Germans planned to retreat to the Siegfried Line at a distance of 110 km from Paris. Ludendorff eventually demanded that the range of the gun be increased immediately to 128 km. Of course, the 35-centimeter barrel was not enough for such a range, and the Kruppists turned their attention to the 38 cm battleship. Such powerful guns under the SK L / 45 index were originally planned for battleships such as Bayern, Sachsen and Wurtemberg. In the field performance, the gun was named Langer Max (Long Max) and distinguished itself when shelling Dunkirk at a record range of 47,5 km. "Long Max" fired a projectile weighing 213,5 kg with a muzzle velocity of 1040 m / s, which made it an excellent base for the future "Colossal". Rausenberg intended to increase the length of the barrel and thereby accelerate the projectile for Paris to the required 1600 m / s, however, a technological problem arose. Krupp machines at that time were unable to cut threads in barrels longer than 18 m, so the connecting flange came to the rescue. With its help, smooth-walled extension attachments of two dimensions - 3,6 and 12 meters - were attached to the Long Max's rifled barrel. Such a super-barrel in the basic version reached 34 meters in length, of which 1 m fell to the breech, 3 m to the charging chamber, 18 m to a rifled barrel and the rest to an innovative attachment. Of course, the trunk was bent under its own gravity - this sharply reduced the chances of getting into the French capital, so they developed a special cable support system like a bridge. Eyewitnesses claimed that the barrel vibrations lasted two to three minutes after each shot. Due to the use of a replaceable liner (a threaded pipe inserted into the barrel of large-caliber artillery guns), which keeps the gun from extreme pressures and temperatures, the Colossal's caliber was 21 cm.


One of the few "lifetime" photos of the gun. Source: zonwar.ru


The first shots the gun made in the summer of 1917, in the city of Mappen - shells flew towards the sea, but reached only the 90-kilometer range. The engineers determined the reason for the weak obturation of the projectile in a smooth-bore nozzle and went to Essen to refine the gun. As a result, they introduced new projectiles with 64 ready protrusions on the two leading belts, which ensure good projectile management of the cuts. The problem of a weak obturation on the smooth part of the trunk was decided by the constructional “highlight” of the leading belts, which, coming out of the rifled part, were turned under the action of the moment of force and locked the barrel bore. Each projectile was very expensive, so the Germans decided to ensure that it fires on the target by installing two fuses at once - the bottom and the diaphragm. And, indeed, all the shells from the Colossal, fired at French territory, exploded, but some did not do it completely. Diligently collected large fragments allowed to get an idea about the design of the projectile supergun. It is noteworthy that the Germans took into account the degree of wear of the liner "Colossal" and all the shells had a different caliber - from 21 cm to 23,2 cm. Also, each of them had its own serial numbers and the most recent (and, accordingly, the largest) went already to the drilled liner 50-70 shots.


21-see the shell "Colossal" with the protrusions. Source: News of the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences


Due to the peculiarities of firing from a cannon, the mass of the charge was not constant: the main part in 70 kg, enclosed in a brass sleeve; In the silk cap, there was 75 kg of gunpowder of the middle part of the charge and, finally, the front part - it was her weight that was selected based on the specific conditions. For example, on the cool day of the debut bombardment of Paris, 50,5 kg were immediately dispatched to the front of the charge, based on calculations for a higher air density. Total for each shot at the gunners took under 200 kg of high-grade powder with a mass of projectile in 104 kg. Gunpowder was a special brand RPC / 12 and differed relatively slow burning, in order to increase the survivability of the trunk.


Corps shell with a serial number. Source: News of the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences


Approximate calculations of the external ballistics "Colossal", carried out in the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences, show that the maximum altitude of the projectile was 37,4 km, which he climbed in 84,2 seconds. With a muzzle velocity in 1600 m / s, the further climb was slowed down; however, on the descending part of the trajectory, the projectile accelerated to the second maximum speed in 910 m / s. Then he again slowed down from friction about the dense layers of the atmosphere and flew to the French at an angle of 54,10 with a speed of 790 ms / s. The time from the shot to the fall of the projectile was weary 175 seconds.


Shooting table for 21-see projectile. Source: News of the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences


The Germans beat the First World War in Paris, setting the "Colossal" on a circular rail track, allowing you to direct the gun in azimuth. The total weight of the installation was 750 tons, and for the concrete base of the carriage over 100 tons of cement, 200 tons of gravel and a couple of tons of reinforcement went. Prior to the maintenance of such a monster, the land gunners were not allowed, and the 60 commandants of naval and coastal artillery with experience in working with such toys were sent to 122. Arranged batteries of guns at three points - at a distance of 100, 80 and 44 km from Paris. The longest battery, disguised in a dense forest near the town of Laon, rumbled first, and did so with the support of sound-masking cannons. The latter were supposed to shoot in sync with the “Colossals” in order to mislead the French sound reconnaissance stations. The Germans approached the artillery raid on Paris very thoroughly - the agent network in the French capital monitored the effectiveness of the strikes, and the aerial bombardment of the city was stopped altogether for the sake of the purity of the experiment. Kaiser superguns fired at the 23 target of the day from March 1918 303 of the year, firing a 256 projectile and killing an 100 man - less than one Parisian per piece of 183-kilogram steel with explosives. And only 29 projectile flew into the city limits, the rest exploded in the suburbs of Paris. The statistics would have been even less optimistic if the 88 March hadn’t hit the St. Gervais, taking a 68 man to the next world and crippling XNUMX. There was a certain psychological effect from “Colossal” - several thousand Frenchmen left the city, not feeling protected from accidental arrival. Realizing the uselessness of such expensive weapons, the Germans removed them from the occupied territory, dismantled them, and destroyed all the documentation. It is not known whether they did it for shame or for reasons of secrecy, but after a while the concept of super-long guns again captured the brains of German designers. And they implemented it on a much larger scale.
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  1. bionik
    bionik 12 May 2018 06: 57
    +5
    "Paris gun" in the shop.
    1. avt
      avt 12 May 2018 07: 43
      +5
      Quote: bionik
      Paris gun "in the shop.

      So what are you - ,, gloomy Teutonic genius " bully
    2. Askel
      Askel 12 May 2018 09: 57
      +3
      With an initial velocity of the projectile of 1600 m / s, the longitudinal shock wave in the metal of the barrel will have time to go back and forth 3-5 times, and taking into account the joints, the difference in diameters and cutting of the parts of the barrel, this leads to huge fluctuations of the upper part of the barrel at the time of exit shell. No wonder accuracy is so low.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 12 May 2018 13: 13
        +10
        Almost 3 minutes of flight in the atmosphere, with different winds, ascending flows, etc., and even without the possibility of correction at the stages of flight ...
        Even without considering that the trunk is a trunk, it’s amazing that they got to France ...
        1. MPN
          MPN 12 May 2018 17: 59
          +8
          Quote: Simargl
          it’s amazing that they got to France ...

          And after all got ... sad
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 13 May 2018 07: 11
      +1
      So I look when I see Megan Fox
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 13 May 2018 20: 19
        0
        Chanterelle about five years old is no longer relevant.
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 12 May 2018 08: 59
    +4
    Obturation, like a special apron, was also provided.
    PS Braces cause emotion. So that everything does not fall? This shnyaga cannot provide rigidity in any way.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 12 May 2018 13: 15
      +4
      Quote: sergo1914
      Affection is caused by braces. So that everything does not fall?
      But is it not written, perhaps, to compensate for sagging?
  3. andrey-ivanov
    andrey-ivanov 12 May 2018 12: 20
    +6
    The Germans, in 1MB, in the 2nd, just some kind of bzik was at the wunder-uber waffe. Otherwise, what else can explain such a crazy expenditure of resources and time for such "outstanding" but equally ineffective "toys".
    1. Curious
      Curious 12 May 2018 14: 26
      +6
      What can you do, the craving for "in the world having no analogues" is not a product of today.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 12 May 2018 15: 13
      +14
      Quote: andrey-ivanov
      The Germans, in 1MB, in the 2nd, just some kind of bzik was at the wunder-uber waffe. Otherwise what else can be explained such a crazy expenditure of resources and time for such "outstanding" but equally ineffective "toys".

      repeat Or maybe the whole thing is this? wassat laughing
    3. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 12 May 2018 19: 32
      +3
      Here the psychological effect was more important - it is under constant fire very uncomfortable for all residents .. And such straining in the capital further leads to panic and other consequences, especially the civilian population of the city. The guns fired in March - April 1918, at the last desperate effort to change the course of the war (throwing almost all the troops from the Russian front). The cannon and documentation were destroyed later under the terms of the Versailles Peace Treaty.
  4. Andrey_Nik
    Andrey_Nik 12 May 2018 12: 55
    +2
    An angle of at least 500 ??? This is how the tangent in wartime can be equal to 4 ??
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 12 May 2018 13: 15
      +10
      Quote: Andrey_Nik
      An angle of at least 500 ??
      And if the last zero is replaced by a degree icon? Not all sites have full text formatting available.
      air sparseness You are not embarrassed, although this is a game of translation.
      1. Yura Yakovlev
        Yura Yakovlev 12 May 2018 18: 34
        +3
        In Russian artillery, the division of the protractor = 360gr .: 6000, and in German 360gr: 5500. From here we have an elevation angle of 500 in German units of 360: 11 = 32,7272 gr.
        1. Grid
          Grid 12 May 2018 19: 16
          +2
          In Russian artillery, the division of the protractor = 360gr .: 6000, and in German 360gr: 5500. From here we have an elevation angle of 500 in German units of 360: 11 = 32,7272 gr.

          Well, why multiply entities unnecessarily? Toricelli also established that the maximum ballistic range is obtained with a casting angle of 45º. The Germans were far from and calculated that the maximum distance would be achieved with a trunk elevation angle of about 50º (sort of like 51º and a few minutes). It is at this angle that the projectile will enter the upper layers at an angle of 45º.
    2. Grid
      Grid 12 May 2018 18: 03
      +5
      This is how the tangent in wartime can be equal to 4 ??

      The trigonometric function of the tangent, even in peacetime, has a range of values ​​from -∞ to + ∞

      :))
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 May 2018 13: 30
    +8
    Very interesting article! Many have heard about the “super-long-range”, “super-gun” of the Kaiser ... But, for example, I did not know many of the details set forth in the article ... now I know wink many thanks for the author fellow The author, as it were, promised in a way that he would tell how German engineers in Nazi Germany "mocked" the long-range artillery .... And there is something to tell! Some interesting know-how was created at that time. So , wait, sss continuation! By the way, it will be possible to mention Soviet work in this area ...
  6. Tomato
    Tomato 12 May 2018 17: 40
    0
    It is strange why they did not use their FAA -1. Exceeded this gun in all respects :( Paris is nevertheless closer than London).
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 12 May 2018 18: 01
      +10
      Apparently because this gun fired on Paris in the First World War.
    2. Grid
      Grid 12 May 2018 18: 06
      +8
      It is strange why they did not use their FAA -1.

      Well, how can I tell you ... In 1918, Werner von Braun still walked under the table and, accordingly, could not portray something sane ...
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 12 May 2018 19: 46
        0
        All such serious, even slightly masked emoticons do not see point blank -
        "parameters :( Paris".
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 12 May 2018 21: 19
        +1
        By the way, the success of the Germans in the development of rocket technology was also due to the fact that after the defeat in the WWI of Weimar Germany it was forbidden to engage in the development of heavy artillery systems. Werner von Braun had to deal with missiles, which no one then considered a serious weapon.
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 00: 15
          0
          and he began by learning from Tsiolkovsky who considered and was not the only one in Russia yes
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 13 May 2018 11: 45
            +3
            [/ quote] and he began by learning from Tsiolkovsky [quote]

            Did he go to the Kaluga gymnasium? Joke.
            Rather, I knew about the work of Obert and Goddart, I probably read Tsiolkovsky’s article 1903 of the year “Exploring the world’s space with jet devices,” but Tsiolkovsky never wrote about the military use of rockets, they were a means of settling Mankind in space, when there would be little on Earth places.
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 15: 59
              +1
              they mean little in comparison with Tsilokovsky, he studied in all works and even corresponded by ordering his books by mail
    3. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 00: 17
      0
      they didn’t have their own, it’s a French development, both the engine and the concept itself, the French had it ready in WWI lol
      1. Grid
        Grid 13 May 2018 12: 07
        0
        [quote they didn’t have their own, this is a French development, both the engine and the concept itself, the French had it ready in PMV [/ quote]
        I heard a ring, but don’t know where he is ...
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 05
          0
          on the topic have something to write? although it’s better not to. yes
          1. Grid
            Grid 13 May 2018 16: 13
            0
            Yes, but not about your honor ...
            Go baby, read smart books ...
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 21
              0
              the level of your education and upbringing was clear in the article about mortars, yes come on railgans annealed even lol
              about "IM" is not necessary - it's definitely not about yours. bully
              1. Grid
                Grid 13 May 2018 16: 43
                0
                level of your education and upbringing

                Well, not for you to judge it, yellow-stone.
                1. YELLOWSTONE
                  YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Grille

                  Well, not for you to judge it, yellow-stone.

                  why not? By the way, what kind of education do you have (it can be seen right away) that in addition to tangents you immediately write such selective rare nonsense? lol The exam would certainly pass, and even began to take from others
  7. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 12 May 2018 18: 02
    +3
    I first read about this gun as a kid, in "Entertaining Physics" ..) It is impressive of course ..
    1. Grid
      Grid 12 May 2018 18: 36
      +2
      Yeah. "Of course, a miracle of technology. However, it is useless." I don’t remember which of the fascist generals said these words about Dora a little later.
      And yes, the victory of genius over common sense ...
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 00: 19
        0
        Is it so? because then they tried to take her to the USSR.
        1. Grid
          Grid 13 May 2018 07: 34
          +1
          because then they tried to take her to the USSR.

          So what?
          Most likely, you really don’t imagine what “Dora” and “Gustav” were like, otherwise you would not have written it.
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 09: 14
            0
            Yes, all the same, before that she had not come with two self-propelled guns "Karl" near Sevastopol?
            1. Grid
              Grid 13 May 2018 12: 19
              +1
              Yes, all the same, before that she had not come with two self-propelled guns "Karl" near Sevastopol?

              Baby from Canada, you at least bother to study what is “Carl” and “Dora”. To ultra-long-range artillery not related to the word at all.
              What results of the use of these units were, you could see in a not so distant history in the form of inscriptions on the Reichstag ...
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 06
                0
                So she came and did they try to take her out later or not?
                the result was a broken tower battery due to which this city lasted less.
                1. Grid
                  Grid 13 May 2018 16: 18
                  +1
                  the result was a broken tower battery

                  The result was an explosion in the artillery cellar. But it is still not clear what caused it.
                  Another conversation is that the ratio of efficiency / cost of these monsters was lower than the plinth. A pair of dive squadrons solved the same problem much faster and much cheaper.
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 24
                    0
                    to someone who knows, or at least understands that he himself writes, there were a lot of squadrons, they did not solve it
                    1. Grid
                      Grid 13 May 2018 16: 30
                      +2
                      Baby, there weren’t many squadrons there ...
                      Well, okay, I won’t kick you crazy.
                      1. YELLOWSTONE
                        YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Grille
                        Baby, there weren’t many squadrons there ...

                        that's for sure - take care of yourself yes
  8. Yura Yakovlev
    Yura Yakovlev 12 May 2018 18: 39
    0
    Little attention is paid in the article to the adjustment of fire. But the German intelligence network was engaged in buying up French newspapers, where it was reported that the German shells were ruptured, and according to these data, adjustments were made for the shooting. All this took 2-3 days.
    1. Grid
      Grid 12 May 2018 19: 18
      +1
      Little attention is paid in the article to the adjustment of fire.

      And that was pointless, for each shot was unique.
      1. Yura Yakovlev
        Yura Yakovlev 12 May 2018 21: 14
        +2
        Not every shot is unique, but the fire correction system. This is not GLONAS or GPS. This in the history of shooting was no longer repeated.
        1. Grid
          Grid 12 May 2018 21: 42
          +1
          Not every shot is unique, but the fire correction system.

          What is the adjustment of fire, what are you talking about? Starting from the fact that this system had a very long and absolutely non-rigid barrel (after a shot, it just hesitated for about 5 minutes), which in itself provided a wild and completely unpredictable spread of trajectories, there was also a projectile for each shot and YOUR charge. This already ensures the uniqueness and non-reproducibility of the result of each individual shot. If we add to this the inconstancy of external conditions, then there can be no question of any more or less accurate and correctable shooting. Especially with such a deadline for the receipt of information.
          The fact that the Germans managed to put 60% of the shells in the city limits is already an achievement.
          But ZhPS and GLONASS have nothing to do with it. Do not confuse soft with warm.
          1. Yura Yakovlev
            Yura Yakovlev 13 May 2018 06: 57
            0
            ".... there can be no question of any more or less accurate and correctable shooting and speech"

            You are very careless about German pedantry.
            1. Grid
              Grid 13 May 2018 07: 41
              0
              You are very careless about German pedantry.

              Once again, the last one, do not confuse the warm with the soft.
              If you are not able to ensure uniformity of the conditions of the shot, then no adjustment of its parameters based on PREVIOUS is not able to provide hits. And no pedantry will help.
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 09: 21
                0
                all this was calculated by artillerymen and checked at the training ground first
                1. Grid
                  Grid 13 May 2018 11: 02
                  0
                  and checked at the test site first

                  Baby, tell me at what training ground was tested "Collosal"?
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 12
                    0
                    children believe that she was not tested
                    1. Grid
                      Grid 13 May 2018 16: 32
                      0
                      children believe that she was not tested

                      No. I SPECIFICALLY ask you where she was tested at full range?
                      So baby, take the trouble to answer.
                      1. YELLOWSTONE
                        YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 41
                        0
                        and in this connection a question? fool do you think there was nowhere? yes laughing
        2. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 00: 22
          +1
          and in these newspapers they wrote a lie ... that’s why some of the shells didn’t go to Paris, then the Germans from the Fau also laughed at London, not immediately starting to put transmitters on them.
          1. Grid
            Grid 13 May 2018 07: 43
            0
            Talk nonsense.
            Newspapers may have lied, but agents are unlikely.
            As for the FAA, study the question before writing outright stupidity.
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 09: 09
              0
              write yours again yes
              1. Grid
                Grid 13 May 2018 11: 05
                0
                write your yes again

                Baby, study the story. Although I understand that in Canada this is not a defining subject. But then you will find amazing discoveries ....
                1. YELLOWSTONE
                  YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 11
                  0
                  you need to study it
  9. YELLOWSTONE
    YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 00: 06
    0
    in one day about the Kaiser’s gun, the Kaiser’s cavalry and the Wittmann’s tank, it’s just a holiday! laughing
    and here is the Tsar-Plane of Emperor Nicholas II,

    there were not only three of them, but under 100 (86+, part with Russian engines) and they brought much more benefit even than inflatable zepellins, therefore they were immediately rendered unusable on earth by the new government.
    Now it will sprinkle on the fan ... from paid, by the Kaiser wassat
    1. Grid
      Grid 13 May 2018 08: 00
      +1
      there were not only three, but under 100 (86+, part with Russian engines)

      Another stupid thing.
      In total, “Muromtsev” from 1914 to 1922 built from 68 to 72 units (the data vary widely). None of them had “Russian” engines, they didn’t produce aircraft engines of their own design at RCMP, and the licensed ones that they did were rather weak for this engine.
      and they brought much more benefit even than inflatable zepellins

      Well, enlighten about the combat use of "Murom". It had a place to be quite active, but several tens of aircraft could not have any serious influence on the course of hostilities.
      therefore, they were immediately put into disrepair on earth by the new government.

      Again by. Those that survived, quite a fly before 1923.
      And in general, read and stop writing nonsense:
      http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww1/im.html
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 09: 08
        0
        stronger "Argus" were, the data are very different and after 85
        one is ... yes
        1. Grid
          Grid 13 May 2018 11: 07
          0
          stronger than the "Argus" were,

          German daimlers.
          the data are very different and after 85
          one is ...

          No. Alas for you ...
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 13
            0
            Russian "Russo-Balti",
            alas, one is already detected, it’s clear that the propeller is as many as four but give way to others lol
            1. Grid
              Grid 13 May 2018 16: 36
              0
              Russian "Russo-Balti",

              The child clearly did not deign to follow the link and read ...
              And the baby does not know what French Argus did on RBZ, using the screwdriver assembly technology ... Although what to demand from the Canadian crest?
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 44
                0
                Quote: Grille
                french argus

                it was clearly written to you that it was not your honor tongue and about the number of fans bully
                Do you know all translations of the word Grille from German except cricket? come on burn about railguns. lol
                1. Grid
                  Grid 13 May 2018 16: 55
                  0
                  Baby, inaa
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 18: 11
                    0
                    what's wrong with you? looked at the translation?
                    1. Grid
                      Grid 16 May 2018 14: 47
                      0
                      No. Just "yellow stones" must be circumvented, and if possible kick.
                      1. YELLOWSTONE
                        YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 21: 21
                        0
                        Well, look, look at him again, certified, according to the law of conservation of momentum
  10. tchoni
    tchoni 13 May 2018 07: 23
    0
    It is surprising that the Americans, knowing the history of the “colossal”, started up with electromagnetic super-guns for the destroyer “son-in-law”
    1. Grid
      Grid 13 May 2018 11: 11
      0
      It is surprising that the Americans, knowing the history of the “colossal”, started up with electromagnetic super-guns for the destroyer “son-in-law”

      EM guns are "direct shot" guns and nothing more. Throwing shells of a more complex structure than just "blanks" they basically can not.
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 18
        +1
        and where did they get this from? lol
        1. Grid
          Grid 13 May 2018 16: 38
          0
          and where did they get this from?

          You know, baby, there is such a science - physics, the resultant dirt and aerodynamics from it.
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 16: 46
            0
            and detail?
            you know there are online translators lol
            1. Grid
              Grid 13 May 2018 16: 53
              0
              and detail?

              More details ...
              When you finish school, go to university. and not at the manager or economist, but at the Faculty of Engineering. Unlearn six years, then work in your specialty for at least a five-year period, then maybe you will begin to understand something ...
              I have no other recipe for you ...
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 18: 12
                0
                go crazy how much the state has spent money on you in vain yes
                where about railguns? bully laughing if you at least worked on it as a handyman for a couple of weeks and didn’t sit out so many pants, then you would have something to answer lol
                admit it, read it in a magazine?
                1. Grid
                  Grid 14 May 2018 15: 11
                  0
                  go crazy how much the state has spent money on you in vain

                  To hell, and I worked them out for two decades ... Unlike you.
                  where about railguns?

                  Why write about this misunderstanding? Once again, for a particularly stupid Yellowstone, I repeat: teach physics, preferably according to the Soviet program, and you will be happy, or maybe not. But UNDERSTAND how it works you will learn.
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE 14 May 2018 21: 38
                    0
                    for these two tens it spent even more money yes
                    you don't understand this
  11. NF68
    NF68 13 May 2018 15: 04
    0
    Interesting article.
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 17: 04
      +1
      some commentators are even more interesting yes
  12. Grid
    Grid 13 May 2018 16: 47
    0
    YELLOWSTONE,
    No, well, I don’t understand, you, baby, say that they’ve tested the Colossal, but don’t name the coordinates of the polygon ...
    How to treat you after that?
    Well, just like a Canadian baby ...
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE 13 May 2018 17: 00
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      No answer, do you think that they did not test it like that?
      here it’s not about education and upbringing even fool
      1. Grid
        Grid 14 May 2018 15: 05
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        No answer, do you think that they did not test it like that?

        Baby, call the coordinates of the polygon.
        Otherwise disappear, a misunderstanding of evolution.
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 14 May 2018 21: 39
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          What specific national group of "misunderstanding" did you mean now?
          You can’t answer, you have denied this many times.
          1. Grid
            Grid 16 May 2018 14: 51
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            What specific national group of "misunderstanding" did you mean now?

            Yours, personal and personal. Bo you are just a fool.
            Z.Y. You never gave the coordinates of the test site, where they tested the “Collosal”.
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 21: 23
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              I hear from this yes
              yours is definitely unhappy with you, why did you need its coordinates? bully
  13. Grid
    Grid 14 May 2018 15: 15
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    YELLOWSTONE,
    all this was calculated by artillerymen and checked at the training ground first

    Your words?
    Please answer.
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE 14 May 2018 21: 41
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      please about the railguns to answer, so what was the magazine? lol
      I’ll wait for someone even more intelligent to explain it to you.
      1. Grid
        Grid 16 May 2018 14: 55
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        please about the railguns to answer, so what was the magazine?

        I already wrote to you, study physics, at least at the level of a Soviet high school. Then unlearn in a normal, preferably Soviet, university. And then you will begin to understand, at least a little, how this world is arranged ...
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 21: 23
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          and they wrote to you that you didn’t teach her, at best, someone pulled pigtails yes
  14. Grid
    Grid 16 May 2018 14: 42
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    YELLOWSTONE,
    all this was calculated by artillerymen and checked at the training ground first

    Is this your thesis? Or should I poke you in the face with a comment?
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE 16 May 2018 21: 25
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      do you think that smart people don’t do that? "certified", how many pairs of trousers at the state expense did you sit? how many others were doing this next? and then they say that the country was bad with consumer goods lol
      what's wrong with the railguns?
      about how at least correctly called in German mortar (the one that is not Railgun), poke again under that article
      https://topwar.ru/139750-ego-velichestvo-oruzhie-
      massovogo-porazheniya.html
      your level and even with such a nickname is understandable, if you put it on its side it will shoot at a tangent around the corner, but with a railgun it won’t work out, therefore it’s only a direct shot weapon yes