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And there is no protection ... The US is concerned about the interception of the MiG-31 on duty with the Dagger

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The leadership of the US Armed Forces is concerned about the entry of Russian MiG-31 with Dagger missiles on combat duty, US media reported. Earlier official statements about the new Russian weapons in the USA they sounded completely different.


And there is no protection ... The US is concerned about the interception of the MiG-31 on duty with the Dagger


Several senior military personnel at the Pentagon noted that the United States does not have protection against Russian hypersonic weapons. For example, the American army cannot withstand weapons that develop speeds of more than three Machs, while the latest Russian missiles can reach five, ten, and even 20 Machs. Warlords also note that the United States is not able to cope even with the Soviet subsonic SCUD family of missiles.

Journalists also emphasize that the range of the “Dagger” in combination with the MiG-31 would allow fighters located in Russia to “strike at Western Europe” and also allow aviation, based in the Far East, maintain control of eastern Asia.

Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov said earlier that 10 interceptor MiG-31 interceptors with hypersonic Dagger missiles are on experimental combat duty for overcoming anti-missile defense. The main objectives of these missiles, he called the large ships. Experts note that no other country in the world has such a weapon as the "Dagger", RIA reports News
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 7 May 2018 18: 25
    +11
    The leadership of the US Armed Forces is concerned about the interruption of the Russian MiG-31 with Dagger missiles on combat alert, according to American media.

    Something started "ZhUM-ZhUM" ?!
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 May 2018 18: 27
      +8
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Something started "ZhUM-ZhUM" ?!

      Dagger in ...
    2. URAL72
      URAL72 7 May 2018 18: 43
      +22
      If the skeleton is an obsolete subsonic Soviet rocket for them, then the opinion of an old woman at my entrance looks much more interesting and professional than that of the author and interviewer of this article. There is nothing to comment on.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 7 May 2018 18: 54
        +18
        would fuck the "truman", and the states would quiet down. no, the gut is thin, the "partners" are the result ... - yes, they "laid" everything on us ... and on our cartoons ... our babble . knocked down a bunch of axes ... so what? but Trump, to the whole world, said that they didn’t bring down any kera and everything was on target ... and whom do you think the “world” listened to? not .... not Shoigu! ... Trumpova! and why ? but because the next blow will be against those who disagree. This is how the right of the strong works, and the co-rules, as a rule, are ignored ... disgusting, but true. Alas. these are the consequences of our slurred and slippery policies, what's inside, what's outside. I’m fucked, I’ve lived, but I’m afraid of the children and grandchildren of that Motherland, as both my father and my grandfather knew ... not to see already.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 7 May 2018 19: 06
          +12
          The AMERICAN side expresses serious concern.
          Why all this saliva flow to Russia? Drank - and behave yourself.
          1. armourer
            armourer 7 May 2018 23: 18
            +1
            In, but did not have to aggravate. All that is not done, all for the better
          2. Wendigo
            Wendigo 8 May 2018 10: 02
            0
            Quote: Mestny
            Why all this saliva flow to Russia?

            In general, a strange article .. I looked and could not find any "stream". But come on, maybe I was just looking badly. In general, Americans have a skeptical attitude to everything that was shown in the cartoon in the president’s message. They are supposedly working in this direction (like most countries in the world), but they are still very far from success.
        2. SOF
          SOF 7 May 2018 20: 25
          +10
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I’m fucked, I’ve lived, but I’m afraid of the children and grandchildren of that Motherland, as both my father and my grandfather knew ... not to see already

          ... Andrei Yuryevich ... and you don’t feel sorry for grandchildren ... after you’ve been hired and you’ve already lived? ...... how long will they live?
          .... or can you tell me how many Yusei aircraft carriers were sunk by that power that you sigh ....?
          ... war in Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua and others are not accepted, because they have never been declared ....
          1. Photon
            Photon 7 May 2018 22: 40
            0
            The tone of your comment is that you might think that the Russian Federation drowns American aircraft carriers every week.
            1. SOF
              SOF 7 May 2018 23: 39
              +2
              Quote: Photon
              The tone of your comment is this

              ... if you do this to me, then please show in which phrase you considered it ......
          2. Mwg
            Mwg 8 May 2018 06: 45
            0
            With the slogan “if only there was no war” we looked like the USSR had died.
          3. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 8 May 2018 13: 06
            0
            Quote: SOF
            .. Andrei Yuryevich ... and you don’t feel sorry for grandchildren ... after you’ve been hired and you’ve already lived? ...... how long will they live and never cares? ....

            here ... the key question .. and here I’m ready to talk to you, I won’t get fucked .. and therefore, my grandchildren play with AK dummies, their parents try to protest, but I am adamant, let my grandchildren know with "snot" how "AK" distort, I do not believe in a "bright future", it is better to let them know right away that the world is manure ... and know how to survive.
        3. LMN
          LMN 7 May 2018 20: 36
          +14
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          would fuck the "truman", and the states would quiet down. but no, the gut is thin, the "partners" are the result ... - yes they "laid" everything on us ...

          Everything may have been put on you personally. I believe it with pleasure.

          Dolbanuli "Truman", and the states would quiet down.
          How much can you write such nonsense? request
          Based on your logic, why then the US does not sink a couple of our ships? And apparently we immediately respect and calm them down? I think not.
          And if not, then the scheme proposed by you (and not only by the way), does not work hi
          1. Merold
            Merold 7 May 2018 20: 43
            +2
            Quote: LMN
            Dolbanuli "Truman", and the states would quiet down.
            How much can you write such nonsense? request

            Do not be so hard on a person. The grandfather is old and posts like: “fucking in the states” and “all diapers spent” are very good for him. Let it rejoice.
            Quote: LMN
            Based on your logic, why then the US does not sink a couple of our ships? And apparently we immediately respect them and quiet down?

            No, it works (in his world) only with pin dos.
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 7 May 2018 21: 24
            +5
            It’s not necessary to start another song about “that we prevented the 3rd World War” ... with your logic, we were 41 — back to Moscow to exhaust the Wehrmacht, and for the same reason we departed from the Kharkiv to the Volga in the 42nd. Truman does not need to be drowned for us ... and for the Syrians, but the Syrian air defense could have dropped a few aircraft (and it doesn’t matter who pointed and sat at the console). Syria is fighting global terrorism that supports the United States and Israel. But we are so dependent on our enemies that in one sentence they drop our currency by 10% and the aligarchs "let the world go" in XNUMX hours, so that we would not have to fight with us to destroy us, we can be strangled economically in half a year (consequences of the reign I won’t tell anyone) why I haven’t done it yet, I don’t know ..... maybe the time has not come yet or they will quietly hand over Russia to them on their terms .... I don’t know what to think about, after the Crimea there’s not one tricky the plan has not yet merged in our favor.
            1. SOF
              SOF 7 May 2018 21: 46
              +1
              Quote: Kent0001
              Truman does not need to be drowned for us ... and for the Syrians, but the Syrian air defense could have dropped a few aircraft (and it doesn’t matter who pointed and sat at the console

              ... a completely different conversation ... and ... moreover, it is not necessary to drop even American planes. No matter how cynical it sounds, but to confirm the presence of testicles, it was necessary to drop someone from the side .........
        4. Victor19
          Victor19 8 May 2018 00: 39
          +2
          Comrade collapsed from the oak. Fucking, as you say, Truman means starting a war with the states. There are no madmen in the leadership of Russia. It is still possible to conduct proxy conflicts with them.
    3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 7 May 2018 18: 58
      +6
      If it weren’t 10, but at least 200, then you can scare someone. Yes, weapons are good, but too few, and with such a defense budget, even 100 Daggers cannot be built. Again began the discharge, in the spirit of the Marked?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 7 May 2018 19: 07
        +6
        Well, if each for an aircraft carrier for example. And there is no protection ... How many aircraft carriers are there afloat?
        1. bk316
          bk316 7 May 2018 19: 20
          +18
          How many aircraft carriers are there afloat?

          Do not believe it - JUST 10 bully 11 in service, one in repair (maybe already out)
        2. KCA
          KCA 9 May 2018 07: 18
          0
          One on the pelvis is not enough, at least three, even if they are not accidentally knocked down, there is always a chance of a technical malfunction of the rocket itself, and an attack by an aircraft carrier is not childish pranks, if you beat, then beat on the back door
      2. 11 black
        11 black 8 May 2018 05: 24
        +2
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        If it weren’t 10, but at least 200, then you can scare someone. Yes, weapons are good, but too few, and with such a defense budget, even 100 Daggers cannot be built. Again began the discharge, in the spirit of the Marked?

        Why for the sake of 100 daggers we do not really build?
    4. Maz
      Maz 7 May 2018 19: 19
      +4
      Like, come on, Bibi nitanyahu, start a war with Iran, we just need to check the dagger for someone! And then they didn’t check your nirazu and how you and the real adversary will not seem enough. And then they are used to fighting with rag kites.
    5. venik
      venik 7 May 2018 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Something started "ZhUM-ZhUM" ?!

      =======
      Duc, it’s a big deal! "Point" Well, not a mug, tea is not iron ......
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 7 May 2018 18: 25
    +20
    ... the US is concerned about the interception on duty of the MiG-31 with the "Dagger" ...

    MiG-31 with "Dagger" - a worthy remedy for megalomania.
    The United States is generally worried that we are not yet with stone axes.
    We need to strengthen our defense, and not think about the concerns of the mattresses.
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 9 May 2018 07: 28
      +1
      there is also a marine version of the RCC Dagger, in order to extend the life of the 1164, 1155 and 956 projects
      the same KR, 1164 Atlant Ave modernize under the 16 RCC Dagger (1000 km), + 128 ZUR Redut (150 km), + 4 ZRAK Pantsir-M - 128 ZUR (40 km), + PTZ Package-NK - 16 torpedo km), + 5 Ka-2
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 7 May 2018 18: 26
    +7
    and the revival of the second fleet of the Yankees will definitely not help ...
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 May 2018 18: 30
      +7
      Quote: Volka
      and the revival of the second fleet of the Yankees will definitely not help ...

      It seemed to them that in the Atlantic they were not in danger laughing This is their patrimony, they are Atlantists, and here they are going to Poseidon / Status-6 in the rookery wassat
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 7 May 2018 18: 42
        +4
        Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov said earlier that there are 10 MiG-31 interceptor aircraft with dagger hypersonic missiles on missile defense to overcome missile defense. The main objectives of these missiles, he called large ships.

        I believe that no "clever" doubts remain that the dagger can get moving targets? bully
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 7 May 2018 18: 50
        +8
        Quote: hrych
        It seemed to them that in the Atlantic they were not in danger

        They believed that their AUGs were unsinkable and invulnerable. How to beat taxpayers' money for new aircraft carriers when the Daggers, Poseidons, and in the future Zircons, overnight turned aircraft carriers into an expensive piece of iron that has no protection from these systems?
        Then the question is, why should they be built? There will be a question for people ... but how to cut money on this?
        The construction of an aircraft carrier is a bottomless feeder for the development of budget money.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 7 May 2018 19: 47
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS
          They believed that their AUGs were unsinkable and invulnerable.

          what prevents them from believing in it now? Cartoons in "youtube"? why empty "show-offs"? whom did they scare? Do you think Americans are so dumb? Nooooo, to overwhelm some sort of "Ticonderoga" or "Truman" - this is convincing, but with "cartoons", you can only admire the licking electorate ... no one else. the states do so, and it doesn’t matter, they’ve got-not-got-try not to believe, and believe ... them.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 7 May 2018 19: 52
            +9
            Quote: Dead Day
            Cartoons in "youtube"?

            You, dear, have arrived from Mars? What cartoons? A dagger is already on alert. But does the mattress carrier have protection against it? And how now to explain to taxpayers the need to build new aircraft carriers in order to receive money? Cartoons ... do not eat raw tomatoes at night, dear.
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 7 May 2018 19: 58
              +6
              Quote: NEXUS
              You, dear, have arrived from Mars? What cartoons? A dagger is already on alert. Does the mattress carrier have protection from it? Cartoons ... do not eat raw tomatoes at night, dear.

              important vinegar ... I don’t eat tomatoes, (no raw, no ripen) and you, apparently, have something shorted out, from any picture, you are believing in faith ... well, have you seen the combat use of the “dagger”? no ... believe the word Putin ... but I no longer believe. enough of his promises from me. You can carry a half-car on 31, and this does not mean that it is a "wunderfleet." I'm so old that I see some things that you will see in 20 years ... for now ... Vinegar ... wink
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 7 May 2018 20: 18
                +12
                Quote: Dead Day
                Cartoons in "youtube"? why empty "show off"

                Grandfather-10 "Daggers" in the South-East Military District of course laughing
                Quote: Dead Day
                . Well, have you seen the combat use of the "dagger"?

                Do you need this?
                Quote: Dead Day
                , to fill up some sort of "ticonderoga" or "truman" -that's convincing

                Dear Grandfather, you yourself answered
                Quote: Dead Day
                you think Americans are so dumb

                Do you think they are so stupid that they would flog around our “Moscow” or Kuz or do you think they need 3 worlds? Or maybe ours are so stupid that there is no reason to overwhelm “Truman” or “Nimitz”. laughing Or do they also need world 3? I don’t think so.
                Quote: Dead Day
                but I don’t believe it anymore. enough of his promises from me

                Believe me, no one forces you to believe that you won’t be forcibly sweet, it’s your business. I don’t believe anyone at all. Nobody will feed my family and me except me, neither Putin, nor Trump, nor Grudinin and Zyuganov.
                Quote: Dead Day
                I'm so old that I see some things that you will see in 20 years ..

                You would drink honey with your lips, if we survive we can and see. laughing Although all of us, at least many, were born, studied, served and worked in the USSR, there just will not be such a country anymore, if you face the truth. hi
                1. hrych
                  hrych 8 May 2018 09: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  Grandfather

                  This grandfather is 14 years old laughing He is so old that Navalny himself blessed him for feats of arms wassat
              2. 11 black
                11 black 8 May 2018 05: 28
                +4
                Quote: Dead Day
                I'm so old that I see some things that you will see for years through 20 ...

                And when would you believe Putin?
                Now, if, as some here suggest, a Dagger would have beaten Truman - you would feel my heart and then you would say that there was no Dagger there, and so - the vacuum cleaner exploded ... laughing
              3. KCA
                KCA 9 May 2018 07: 25
                0
                Probably the CIA is not only plotting in third world countries, as intelligence they also represent something, not in the last place in the world, if the Dagger and the other new items announced were cardboard mockups, then the CIA would trumpet it to the whole world, but so far they are only expressing concern ... A serious concern.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 7 May 2018 20: 07
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          How to beat taxpayers' money for new aircraft carriers when the Daggers, Poseidons, and in the future Zircons, overnight turned aircraft carriers into an expensive piece of iron that has no protection from these systems?

          Uh brother. Overnight we can. But We, by the way, have 10 times more traditional Chinese warnings in stock than aftraf, and the Yankees need a lot of denyufaf right now and they will receive it
      3. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 8 May 2018 00: 28
        +1
        Maybe not in the rookery, but in the seat?
  4. Sonet
    Sonet 7 May 2018 18: 29
    +4
    And it would seem, why, all of a sudden, these conversations about Russians, wunderwaffles,? And the new term of the Tsar-Father well has absolutely nothing to do with it. Well, since I’ve been able to offer people from nothing really will help out our brilliant military-industrial complex.
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 7 May 2018 18: 34
      +17
      Quote: Sonet
      ... And it would seem, why, all of a sudden, these conversations about Russians, wunderwaffles,? And the new term of the Tsar-priest well has nothing to do with it. Well, since I’ve helped the people out, in the economy, there’s nothing special to offer; our brilliant military-industrial complex will help out ...

      So far, apart from you, nobody has been talking about the Russians, “wunderwaffles,”.
      Something does not suit you?
      In secret: Russia is a state with a republican form of government, your "Tsar-Father" is a bunch in a puddle.
      In Russia, the word “overpower” is not used either in official documents or in vernacular.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 May 2018 18: 52
        +10
        Quote: Andrey K
        So far, besides you, nobody has talked about Russians, “wunderwaffles,”

        Hello Be Andrew drinks A colleague just mixed up the branches, he had to go with the slogans about Medvedev, there is a circus with horses and an orchestra. laughing hi drinks
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 8 May 2018 00: 58
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          ... A colleague simply mixed up the branches, he had to go with the slogans about Medvedev, there is a circus with horses and an orchestra ...

          Welcomehi
          It is visible that got lost laughing
          I tried to get him out of the choleric state lol
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 7 May 2018 18: 36
      +8
      Do you personally have problems with the economy? Have you tried to work?
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      2. Mestny
        Mestny 7 May 2018 19: 10
        +6
        Of course not. They then know that the results of their ingenious work will go to worthless oligarchs. That means you can’t work in any case. You can only ride rallies.
    3. taiga2018
      taiga2018 7 May 2018 18: 50
      +6
      Quote: Sonet
      in the economy, there’s nothing special to offer; our brilliant military-industrial complex will help out.

      in general, our military-industrial complex is also part of the Russian economy, thousands and maybe tens of thousands of people work there, these are scientific developments that will find their application in peaceful life, and finally, without serious protection from external threats, all other movements, including they lose all meaning in economics ...
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 May 2018 19: 01
        +6
        Quote: taiga2018
        in general, our defense industry is also part of the Russian economy, thousands and maybe tens of thousands of people work there, these are scientific developments that will find their application in civilian life,

        although hi Millions of people work in the military-industrial complex, and the military-industrial complex also produces civilian and dual-use products.
        Quote: taiga2018
        and finally, without serious protection from external threats, all other movements, including in the economy, they lose all meaning ...

        Absolutely so Colleague. It is worth removing the guns and there will be no oil. hi
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 7 May 2018 19: 15
          +3
          Quote: vovanpain
          Millions of people work in the military-industrial complex, and the military-industrial complex also produces civilian and dual-use products.

          Well, I’m so cautious, on the principle, it’s better to downplay what is than to exaggerate what is not ... if on such a scale, then it’s just fine, and most importantly, our military-industrial complex again produces high-tech products, otherwise I remember how the great Soviet military-industrial complex in the framework of the so-called conversion, by the will of the reformers, proceeded to the production of pots ...
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 7 May 2018 19: 36
            +4
            Quote: taiga2018
            and most importantly, our military-industrial complex is again releasing high-tech products, otherwise I remember how the great Soviet military-industrial complex, in the framework of the so-called conversion, by the will of the reformers, switched to the production of pots.

            I don’t remember Makar, the Soviet military-industrial complex, I didn’t work at that time, but I served, but all the “charms” of that conversion were felt by my father, he was simply retired and at least lucky with this, his younger colleagues were simply reduced. When I left in 1984, more than 40 people worked at the factory where his father worked (now it is PJSC UEC Saturn), the main production was in Rybinsk, and when I left the civil service and got a job in the 000th, the factory worked a little more than 95 and every divine year of reduction, reduction and reduction, and Saturn did not produce a single new engine, kept only on repairs, but on snowmobiles, now it works a little more than 15000 but it is stable, of course there are many problems, but there are a lot of orders, and military and civilian topics. hi
    4. CYM
      CYM 7 May 2018 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: Sonet
      And it would seem, why would, all of a sudden, these conversations about Russians, wunderwaffles, be?

      You know, rumors about weapons often scare opponents more than his real demonstration. Examples. American SDI, as it later turned out to be impossible, even at the current stage of US scientific and technological development. Israel’s nuclear weapons, they don’t even recognize its existence, but the USA and the USSR have always taken it into account when settling Arab-Israeli conflicts. A recent example of DPRK nuclear missiles. Sun Tzu in his treatise "The Art of War" wrote: "war is the path of deception, deception is the path of war." winked
  5. Dormidont
    Dormidont 7 May 2018 18: 31
    +1
    No worries. They will like it
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 May 2018 18: 33
    0
    Why bother? Are you going to do a dirty trick? Afraid of getting hands? Yes, so that the head sways wassat
  7. Kelwin
    Kelwin 7 May 2018 18: 38
    +3
    It would not hurt to show work in combat conditions, such a Syrian salute - 2, but the broads do not have large ships, maybe that's why the mattresses cringe ...))
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 7 May 2018 18: 44
    +2
    And why are you worried, keep your aircraft carriers at a distance of 2000 km from Russia and you will be calm.
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS 7 May 2018 18: 45
    +6
    And 10 Daggers were thrown closer to the BV and to the mattress AUG ... just like that. Schaub was not tempted to pull the hatchets somewhere in the wrong place.
    1. san4es
      san4es 7 May 2018 21: 54
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      And 10 Daggers were thrown closer to the BV.

      hi .... However, whether the MiG-31 will be the main carrier of this missile is not a fact. The fact is that so far these planes are not enough to solve the air defense tasks of such strategically important areas as the Far East, Siberia and the Moscow zone, for which they were created. Although it is reported that not all MiG-31s ​​will be converted into a BM variant, and some will be upgraded to “fundamentally new types of weapons,” there is reason to believe that the deployment of AKV “Dagger” will not be limited to them ...
      ... Although it is reported that not all MiG-31s ​​will be converted into a BM variant, and some will be upgraded to “fundamentally new types of weapons,” there is reason to believe that the deployment of AKV “Dagger” will not be limited to them.
      ... But you can place such missiles on other Russian Long-Range Aviation aircraft, for example, on supersonic missile carriers - medium-range Tu-22M3 and intercontinental Tu-160. The first theoretically (based on the possible values ​​of the mass and dimensions of the X-47M2 missile) can take two or four of these missiles on the external sling (placing it in a half-sunken position at the X-22 site requires the completion of at least the flaps of the bomb bay), and the second - four rockets in weapon compartments without significant alteration. Again, for the X-47M2 suspension, they must undergo refinement - substantial, but by no means impossible technically.
      ... And then the whole ARC "Dagger" will turn from an operational-tactical weapon into a means of strategic influence.
      soldier
      http://aviation-gb7.ru/Dagger.htm
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  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 7 May 2018 18: 50
    +5
    They are worried about the interruption on the Dagger’s B / D, and the Russian population, about the interruption of DAM’s “duty” .. and something tells me that this concern is deeper))
    Ah, on the topic: money is requested, as always))
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  12. kventinasd
    kventinasd 7 May 2018 18: 58
    +5
    Crews of aircraft carriers, depending on their size, from 1300 people to 3300 people.
    What I really like these ships, so that in the event of an attack - they drown in the sea,
    and no need to bury anyone.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 7 May 2018 19: 48
      +2
      and how many "drowned" of the 11 current?
      1. lance
        lance 7 May 2018 20: 39
        0
        I almost drowned one, the truman is called, 14,04,18g and the United States are glad to ... the link was ready from the Black Sea. agreed. 10 is even easier to negotiate.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 7 May 2018 20: 55
      +3
      Quote: kventinasd
      Crews of aircraft carriers, depending on their size, from 1300 people to 3300 people.
      Specifically: the AVM t. "Nimitz" Crew - 3 200 people + air group (wing and those personnel) 2480 people + camping headquarters 70 people Total per lap = 5750 people Question: Which of them can walk on the water like Andrew the First-Called ? Or fly through the air like a Cherub? I think saving money for everyone is not enough ... Therefore, the concern is so overwhelming.
      Quote: kventinasd
      in the event of an attack, they drown in the sea, and no one should be buried.

      Well, it’s necessary to try hard ... And the picture about the special sinking of the Oryskani AVU in 1994 is certainly impressive. But!
      The aircraft carrier became the largest floating object ever specially sunk by a man. Drowning itself has become a complex engineering challenge. The ship with a displacement of 32000 tons and a length of 275 meters sank 37 minutes.
      1. kventinasd
        kventinasd 8 May 2018 00: 36
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And the picture about the special drowning of the AVU "Oriskani" in 1994 is certainly impressive.

        Instead of selling for scrap, Oriskany was flooded 17 May 2006 years 24 miles off the coast of Pensacola, Florida. The aircraft carrier became an artificial reef.
        Well, it is necessary to try hard ...

        This expression was relevant 20 years ago. With modern tools, you don’t have to try so hard.
  13. MadCat
    MadCat 7 May 2018 19: 09
    +4
    US Concerned about Dagger MiG-31 on Duty

    why not right away? In hysterics, they stock up on diapers, everyone went ashore, the infantry called on the ships, and the Air Force fainted! Well, what if not your direct laughing
  14. Vikalst
    Vikalst 7 May 2018 19: 13
    +3
    At one time, the Yankees stopped working with hypersonic missiles, because they could not ensure that the missile was aimed at the target ..... ours, as always, found some original solution .... as I understand it, “Dagger” is the same “Iskander” .... Iskander has an anti-ship option ... which flies to the target up to 6m. over the waves .... but for the "hypersound" it does not seem to care how to fly to the target ... they still will not hit ... the most interesting ... what kind of BG he has .... there are a lot of the most unexpected options ... .surprise zz will be ....
  15. Yuri VO
    Yuri VO 7 May 2018 19: 13
    +2
    The systematic work of the military-industrial complex. A lot of MiG-31s ​​have already been modernized (complete disassembly, replacement of components and mechanisms,
    installation of the latest control and combat equipment, fact). From Gudauta jump with a set and with a "Dagger". Everything will be fine!
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 7 May 2018 19: 14
    +3
    As it is all one-sided. Only 10 Daggers pressed all over America? In this case, even the exact performance characteristics are not
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 7 May 2018 22: 04
      +2
      So let them guess what they are capable of. laughing. 10 of these daggers on the AUG is enough. Therefore, let them stay at 2000 km. from the coast of the Russian Federation.
      I like the solution with the MiG-31 - almost gave a second life - what is the potential laid in it. He does not need a stealth with such weapons. And why create a new interceptor? Is that the internal compartments, but it will be more like a bomber. It is enough to “recycle” it taking into account new materials and electronics, engines and weapons. hi
  17. demo
    demo 7 May 2018 19: 19
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Starover_Z
    Something started "ZhUM-ZhUM" ?!

    Dagger in ...

    I mean dagger in "ZhUM-ZhUM" hosh?
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 7 May 2018 19: 21
    +3
    Pride for our scientists, designers, workers et yes, of course, if we can be proud of the murder weapon, but such is life, such is our world.
    Pride in our power, which is still trying to make the country great again, significant in the world ??? everything is very half here. It is impossible to say that they are trying in vain, but to admit that they are doing everything that is possible, all that is necessary, does not work out in any way.
    Just as we usually get, what period of history you don’t take, solid zigzags, neither you certainly admit well, nor admit infinitely bad things!
  19. bk316
    bk316 7 May 2018 19: 25
    +10
    And what happened to the comrades who wrote in the morning about the "cartoons"?
    And .... now they write that they need hundreds of daggers.
    I wonder why, if the United States has only 11 aircraft carriers?
  20. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 7 May 2018 19: 37
    0
    The leadership of the US Armed Forces is concerned about the intercession of Russian MiG-31 missiles with "Dagger" on alert
    There is much more important caliber and power on combat duty today started))) Or they did not notice? Hang striped ...
  21. alikstalker
    alikstalker 7 May 2018 19: 43
    0
    -3 aircraft carrier, it is necessary to increase the number of daggers.
    1. alikstalker
      alikstalker 7 May 2018 19: 48
      0
      It’s interesting, but how much time does it take for Mig to fly out from the Crimea, say, go to the border to shoot at Truman in Middle-earth?
      1. lance
        lance 7 May 2018 20: 41
        +1
        22 minutes, the ships will die in 30 minutes, from the beginning of the signal.
  22. Dikson
    Dikson 7 May 2018 19: 45
    +1
    So the "meteorite" Chelyabinsk finally showed ....
  23. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 May 2018 19: 47
    +1
    US Concerned about Dagger MiG-31 on Duty
    [Quote] [/ quote]
    I agree. Crap yet ..... years.
    So maybe it's time to stop the Dignified VO to sow the brains of the adequate, world standards of universal values?
    Here is information, someone farted. And do we all need 150 million? And is this freedom of information?
    REFERENDUM!
    The freedom not to know that Khrusha with Sninasha again has a miscarriage.
  24. sir_obs
    sir_obs 7 May 2018 20: 05
    0
    It's time to learn asteroids from orbit just to throw at the target. Then the penguins are completely worried.
  25. flicker
    flicker 7 May 2018 20: 07
    +1
    It was not necessary to name the dagger, but "Goodbye America."
  26. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 7 May 2018 20: 11
    +1
    I look at the daggers at our moment31, but there aren’t any missiles to protect against air targets, the missiles were removed and I doubt that they will be covered in the air, again we put everything upside down
    1. alikstalker
      alikstalker 7 May 2018 20: 18
      +4
      Especially and cover at the turn of 2000 km to the goal and is not necessary. Especially at a speed of 3400 km / h at an altitude of 25 km. M air-to-air excess resistance and ballast.
      1. lance
        lance 7 May 2018 20: 46
        +2
        already wrote earlier, Mig31 is one of my favorite cars, it rises to 9,2t and flies to 2,5mah. the dagger is an interesting and inadequate, but effective solution for an aircraft up to 2050. dagger m. and on other planes with a max of more than 2,0.
  27. vkl.47
    vkl.47 7 May 2018 21: 37
    +4
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    would fuck the "truman", and the states would quiet down. no, the gut is thin, the "partners" are the result ... - yes, they "laid" everything on us ... and on our cartoons ... our babble . knocked down a bunch of axes ... so what? but Trump, to the whole world, said that they didn’t bring down any kera and everything was on target ... and whom do you think the “world” listened to? not .... not Shoigu! ... Trumpova! and why ? but because the next blow will be against those who disagree. This is how the right of the strong works, and the co-rules, as a rule, are ignored ... disgusting, but true. Alas. these are the consequences of our slurred and slippery policies, what's inside, what's outside. I’m fucked, I’ve lived, but I’m afraid of the children and grandchildren of that Motherland, as both my father and my grandfather knew ... not to see already.

    I’m afraid that after the blow to Truman, your children will leave radioactive vapor. And from all of our children, you lived and do not give a shit about others.
  28. Lerych
    Lerych 7 May 2018 21: 52
    0
    There are very few carriers. I hope the question of alternative is being resolved.
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 8 May 2018 00: 41
      0
      Tu 22, 160, and in the future Su 57, why not carriers?
      1. kolyhalovs
        kolyhalovs 8 May 2018 13: 03
        0
        The fact that they can’t gain the required speed. RCC on interceptor not from a good life set.
        1. KCA
          KCA 9 May 2018 07: 42
          0
          On the contrary, they made a good choice from a good one, and then you can slowly upgrade and prepare it for other carriers, the main thing now is how to threaten the mattresses, and then the missile system can change a lot, and the MIG-31 is an ingenious plane, if you implement all the ideas that they did it, it will be horror for enemies, enemy satellites will definitely become meteors burning in the sky
  29. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 7 May 2018 22: 05
    +1
    10 pieces. it's nothing, purely for testing, if all available two hundred MiG-31s ​​modernize and hang daggers on them, there will be something, but then again, if they can actually attack moving targets like a ship, and if not, then this weapon will not give special advantages
  30. Abram
    Abram 7 May 2018 22: 05
    +1
    won't hit. the trajectory is high, they will be detected immediately, the reaction time to the car. Throw dipole reflectors, put smoke screens, electronic warfare, change course. This log only in the sea will make smile
  31. Urantian
    Urantian 7 May 2018 22: 07
    0
    10 ...., yes this is a lot))))
  32. yaros
    yaros 7 May 2018 22: 49
    +2
    Quote: Abram
    time for the reaction of the wagon. Throw dipole reflectors, put smoke screens, electronic warfare, change course. This log only in the sea will make
    Reply Quote Complaint

    Yeah, firstly, the radar sees, if it sees at all (there is such information that at such speeds in plasma it is invisible at all) well, let's say it sees 400 km from the water due to the curvature of the Earth, the approach time is about twenty minutes ... You can maneuver as much as you want for this time, if you have time, only the rocket will also change course ...... Borisov said that he works on ships, so he has his own target recognition system ... so I'm sorry but there will be no bulky
    1. Abram
      Abram 7 May 2018 23: 09
      +2
      400? it will not be enough for mine if this thing, like Iskander, climbs 50 km up. There is no plasma there, if only briefly, at the time of acceleration. The fact that it flies in a plasma for a long time has ablation protection, the Dagger does not have it. And certainly there is no hypersound at the time of descent, otherwise the plasma will not let the gos work. Borisov can tell you anything, PR managers of a terrible weapon of retaliation from the MoD are not authorities for me smile
      1. yaros
        yaros 7 May 2018 23: 24
        +3
        It’s difficult for you to explain something if you don’t know that the Earth is round, and radars from Earth or water cannot see beyond 300-400 km, even high-altitude targets .... Hypersound will occur when a rocket accelerates, it starts up for a thousand kilometers, where his ship’s radar will definitely not see .... and so on. And in any case, Borisov knows more than us, since he is deputy defense min ....
        1. Abram
          Abram 8 May 2018 00: 02
          0
          Wikipedia says that a height of 10 km pushes the horizon to 357,3 km. And, it is only 10 km. The earth is round, but not so small as to see because of the curvature, regardless of altitude, only 300-400 km. Another thing, yes, to see her with such an EPR from such distances is hardly possible. And the SPRN satellites? they must also detect missile launches of medium-range missiles
          1. Mimoprohodil
            Mimoprohodil 8 May 2018 09: 26
            +1
            Judging by the formula, the target at an altitude of 40 km is visible for 700 km
  33. Photon
    Photon 7 May 2018 22: 50
    +2
    I wanted to ask a question about target designation for the Dagger. But after reading the comments, I realized that it’s not worth it. Apparently, an over-the-horizon target designation system for throwing caps has been working for a long time.
    1. Abram
      Abram 8 May 2018 00: 14
      0
      “Dagger” is why a dagger is a melee weapon, so that they can shoot them smile
  34. Bell pepper
    Bell pepper 8 May 2018 00: 13
    +1
    https://southfront.org/russian-ka-52-attack-helic
    opter-crashed-in-syria-two-pilots-died /

    Ka 52 DROPED PILOTS KILLED: AGAIN NOT CATAPULTED !!!!!

    I want to know having a moron who gave the order and forbade the pilots to catapult !!!!!
  35. Old26
    Old26 8 May 2018 00: 47
    +2
    Quote: URAL72
    If the skeleton is an obsolete subsonic Soviet rocket for them, then the opinion of an old woman at my entrance looks much more interesting and professional than that of the author and interviewer of this article. There is nothing to comment on.

    I agree to all 100%.
    if you read such bloopers
    Several senior Pentagon military personnel noted that the US does not have protection against Russian hypersonic weapons. So, for example, the U.S. Army cannot withstand speed weapons more than three Machswhile the latest Russian missiles can reach five, ten and even 20 Machs. The military leaders also note that the United States is not able to cope even with the Soviet subsonic SCUD family missiles.

    there’s really nothing to comment on ....

    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    would fuck a truman

    What a strategist you are !!! Already take envy. To come up with such a thing is what kind of umiage, what ultra-high intelligence you must possess .....
    But to realize that after the sinking of the warship of a country with which we are not at war, a nuclear bomb strike on our territory and, accordingly, ours on theirs, can come up with this? Or do you have an irresistible desire for suicide? But why should tens of millions suffer from your desire?

    Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
    If it weren’t 10, but at least 200, then you can scare someone. Yes, weapons are good, but too few, and with such a defense budget, even 100 Daggers cannot be built. Again began the discharge, in the spirit of the Marked?

    Does the word "combat pilot" say something to you? This is not combat duty with military weapons. This is essentially a military test. where no one will ever use these complexes for warfare. There is a development, search, identification and elimination of jambs. If you look at the photos, even the rockets are different from the first. on the first there were 4 planes of aerodynamic rudders. At the last there are already EIGHT. That is, the process is ongoing. Have you heard of the full range test? At least for the same Sary-Shagan? Did not hear. So I have not heard. And our "sworn friends" record such tests. And as soon as we tested 9M729 - howl howled. And then silence in the specifics. Only common words by unnamed officials.
    Or have you heard that the same "Dagger" sank at least some scum? Also no? Me neither. And what's the point of building 100 "Daggers"? To multiply all MIG-31 interceptors by zero? Or take into service a complex that did not pass the entire test cycle ???

    Quote: NEXUS
    The dagger is already on alert

    Not worth it, Andrew. do not confuse experimental combat duty, but in fact military trials with military alert ...

    Quote: KelWin
    It would not hurt to show work in combat conditions,

    Yes, what problems !!! Is it difficult to take a target ship and make a demonstration shoot if everything is so good? Complicated? But where is this indicative shooting. Yes, at least one shooting video. Not the cut-off from the carrier and the engine on (3-4 seconds video), but the usual video, as Onyxes and Mosquitoes showed on target ships

    Quote: NEXUS
    And 10 Daggers were thrown closer to the BV and to the mattress AUG ... just like that. Schaub was not tempted to pull the hatchets somewhere in the wrong place.

    Andrei! didn’t they even try to find out for themselves where our MIG-31s ​​were based and where they are now based in the Experimental Combat in SE?

    Quote: alikstalker
    Especially and cover at the turn of 2000 km to the goal and is not necessary. Especially at a speed of 3400 km / h at an altitude of 25 km. M air-to-air excess resistance and ballast.

    Speed ​​of 3400 km / h? With the external suspension of such a "fool" weighing 4-5 tons? And at 25 km altitude? Trim sturgeon at least twice in speed and a third in height - there will be more real numbers. And then you take the maximum speeds and altitudes and think that with such a suspension it will fly? such speeds and altitudes are maximum, most often achieved on a plane without any suspensions, they are also called records
    And the line of 2000 km is most often over neighboring countries .... And who will be given target designation at that distance to this MiG with the “Dagger" ??
  36. ilik54
    ilik54 8 May 2018 04: 44
    0
    That's great, now we need to increase the number to the required size so that there is guaranteed superiority by putting the “Daggers” on the Su-57, there is information that they can also be included in the “Dagger” system. Go Russia!
  37. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 8 May 2018 05: 56
    0
    So it pleases that there is NO protection.
  38. Seaflame
    Seaflame 8 May 2018 09: 28
    0
    Also Zircons will come to the fleet, there will be a song!
  39. yaros
    yaros 8 May 2018 11: 03
    0
    Quote: Mimoprohodil
    Judging by the formula, the target at an altitude of 40 km is visible for 700 km

    What is the formula? Isosceles triangle? Damn well, imagine the curvature of the Earth, and draw a picture, is it really that difficult ..... There is a big difference between the radar on the surface of the Earth and water, or at a height .... well, or find pictures on the Internet there are a lot of them. Duc aircraft above 24 m do not fly, 000 km is the stratosphere
    1. Abram
      Abram 8 May 2018 11: 43
      0
      what difference does it make, at what altitude do planes fly, if they detect a missile, and does it have a ballistic, high-altitude trajectory? American, towed SBX radar, Target detection range (with EPR = 1 m²): up to 4 km. In addition, there are stationary tracking stations, obviously with even better performance. Why do they need such characteristics if, in your opinion, because of the "curvature of the Earth" for 900 - 300 km, nothing is already visible, regardless of altitude?
  40. yaros
    yaros 8 May 2018 12: 00
    +2
    Quote: Abram
    American towed radar SBX

    The size of the dome is 31 m and even on a floating platform, will you drag this garbage with you along with the AUG ?, I mean ordinary ship radars or ground-based ground radars ..... Ps S-band radar is a completely different class ... Even high-altitude AWACSs at one time didn’t go further than 600 km, and I found the geeks 30 years ago, so in the subject, I generally doubt that it’s possible to detect an object at hyper speed, and even more so to shoot it down with existing means is impossible .... so the arguments what can be prepared to put it mildly doubtful .... Well, let's imagine the MIG-31 unit is one with the Dagger, they do maneuvers, first of all you can’t determine the plane that has the dagger and who has the cover planes, and which of the cars gets banged .... .
    1. Abram
      Abram 8 May 2018 13: 14
      0
      and why not drag, if it is designed for this? I think it’s not necessary to keep an order; her presence at the theater of operations is enough. "high" AWACS are what? Boeing E-3 Sentry? Well, there, in my opinion, the usual 707, the ceiling is 12 km. you said only yesterday that because of the curvature it is impossible to pinpoint further than 300-400. And today, already over 600 flying at a maximum of 12 Boeing) Did something happen during the night? Did the earth become flat?)
  41. yaros
    yaros 8 May 2018 14: 54
    +2
    Quote: Abram
    why not drag

    Thank you, we were glad, I didn’t laugh like that for a long time .... you look at the picture how it looks ... And anyway, young man, I specifically agreed yesterday that it depends on the height of the radar, so don’t be smart, it’s one thing , and it’s another matter from the air, again we repeat the geography, draw a picture in the mind .... And the smaller the position height, the less the distance in a straight line to the target detection, in the VHF range the radar works in a straight line, take the trouble to imagine mentally and you will succeed , but from the surface of the earth or water, the restriction is generally 200-400km
  42. faterdom
    faterdom 8 May 2018 19: 56
    +1
    All American allies and candidates for it, let them learn the song: "But they didn’t come for help, they didn’t send reinforcements, in general - here they are: we are with you for ... whether"