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Violence and mass arrests: in Europe, concerned about the fate of the Russian opposition

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The Secretary General of the Council of Europe (CoE), Thorbjørn Jagland, expressed concern about the actions of the Russian authorities during yesterday’s demonstrations organized by supporters of Alexei Navalny, reports RIA News.


Violence and mass arrests: in Europe, concerned about the fate of the Russian opposition


Protests were held on Saturday in major cities of Russia, some of them were agreed with the local authorities, many were unauthorized. As previously reported in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, “in most cities, actions took place with an insignificant number of participants,” and, despite the fact that not all of them were coordinated with local authorities, “during their conduct there were no significant violations of public order”.

I am concerned about reports of violence and mass detentions during yesterday’s opposition demonstrations in Russia. Peaceful demonstrators who were detained should be released,
said jagland.

According to him, “freedom of assembly is a fundamental right protected by the European Convention on Human Rights.”

Unfortunately, the organizers of the demonstrations and the authorities were unable to agree on the locations for the demonstrations. In democratic societies, such issues should be resolved in a peaceful and consensus manner in accordance with the Convention and the case law of the Strasbourg Court,
declared the secretary general.

The Council of Europe is ready to help our Russian member state improve its legislation on freedom of assembly,
added on.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs in Moscow yesterday said that “during an uncoordinated action involving about 1,5, thousands of people in the center of the capital were detained around 300 violators, including Navalny himself,” who later announced his release from the Moscow Department of Internal Affairs before the trial. In addition, “after prophylactic conversations, all underage participants of the uncoordinated action, detained by the police, were handed over to parents”.
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RIA Novosti / Evgeny Odinokov
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  1. maxim947
    maxim947 7 May 2018 09: 23
    +42
    As they say do not say what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...
    The assistants are poor.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 7 May 2018 09: 25
      +25
      Quote: maxim947
      As they say do not say what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...


      I generally thought it was a gay parade ..
      1. 210ox
        210ox 7 May 2018 09: 27
        +8
        Yes, and pooh on them .. Europoids, heaped and the like .. Good afternoon, Alexander hi
        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: maxim947
        As they say do not say what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...


        I generally thought it was a gay parade ..
        1. Hire
          Hire 7 May 2018 09: 28
          +48
          In democratic societies, such issues must be resolved in a peaceful and consensual manner in accordance with the Convention and case law of the Strasbourg Court,

          Probably since in Paris

          1. Logall
            Logall 7 May 2018 09: 31
            +18
            Council of Europe ready to help our member state of Russia improve its legislation on freedom of assembly
            No, stop writing our laws! The Constitution was enough ... And then the Egegeans will be allowed to go through the streets.
            1. Hire
              Hire 7 May 2018 09: 37
              +24
              By the way, I read one news today and realized that this hangout, under the slogan "He is not our king," was conducted by the Khokhlyat Maydauns.

              Now the slogan is clear (they really are not the king of GDP), and the contingent (they are children and buggers), and the form of the meeting.
              1. taiga2018
                taiga2018 7 May 2018 10: 43
                +4
                Quote: Hire
                conducted hohlyatsky maydauny.

                Well, by the way, our fellows are also good, including the experience of neighbors in bringing all kinds of organizations to order, including Cossacks, because they, unlike the police, can act more freely and without delay just let the uncomprehensible stupid and that's it ...
                1. hrych
                  hrych 7 May 2018 11: 00
                  +28
                  Quote: taiga2018
                  can act more freely

              2. Antares
                Antares 7 May 2018 11: 26
                +1
                Quote: Hire
                By the way, I read one news today and realized that this hangout, under the slogan "He is not our king," was conducted by the Khokhlyat Maydauns.

                hardly. But the Foreign Ministry statement does exist
                First condemn
                "Ukraine strongly condemns the brutal attacks by the punitive units of the Kremlin regime on Russian citizens who took to the streets as part of a global peaceful protest # HeNamNetsar"

                and then
                "Ukraine and our international partners are demanding the immediate release of illegally detained people and ensuring their rights to protest peacefully against arbitrariness and injustice," the statement said.

                http://mfa.gov.ua/ua/press-center/news/64720-v-uk
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                oku-karalynih-pidrozdiliv-kremlivsykogo-rezhimu-n
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                amkah-globalynogo-mirnogo-protestu-onnamnecary
                International partners of Ukraine and the Russian Federation also condemned and demanded release (EU and USA)
            2. figwam
              figwam 7 May 2018 10: 43
              +1
              Shaw again bulked up?
              1. hrych
                hrych 7 May 2018 11: 01
                +6
                Quote: figvam
                Shaw again bulked up?
          2. gippernano
            gippernano 7 May 2018 18: 27
            0
            Probably since in Paris

            At least! like in Paris.
      2. Grandfather Makar
        Grandfather Makar 7 May 2018 09: 29
        +17
        These hordeloders got it already ... Chopped with sapper blades and sent to Siberia for logging!
        Or take them to a geyropu, we’ll load the squad’s compositions directly and take parasites, drug addicts, etc. From Moscow alone, how much is typed! I just have no words anymore ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 7 May 2018 09: 37
          +5
          But what is wrong with us?
          Send all the guardians of naf, but we'll figure it out ourselves!
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        2. LSA57
          LSA57 7 May 2018 09: 38
          0
          Quote: Ded-Makar
          direct tovarny compositions load

          Yes, probably a dozen cars enough
        3. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 7 May 2018 09: 52
          +16
          Nope, not poluchitstso. They cannot in gyrops. Here is the great artist Pavlensky - while he was creative in Moscow, Europe defended the creator. And how in Paris I triedlsa - immediately thundered into the psychiatric hospital.
      3. taiga2018
        taiga2018 7 May 2018 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        it was a gay parade.

        That's right.
    2. Vend
      Vend 7 May 2018 09: 51
      +5
      They are worried. laughing For the unauthorized rallies themselves, they not only have draconian fines, but also go to jail. So whose cow would moo.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 7 May 2018 10: 39
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        For the unauthorized rallies themselves, they not only have draconian fines, but also go to jail.

        for the first time in a long time, my law enforcement officers pleased me, and finally, all sorts of attempts to start riots stopped us more or less hard ...
        1. Russia
          Russia 7 May 2018 10: 56
          +4
          They made shit democracy, here we are reaping the benefits. And the old and the young are already twisted to "events." Really there is no bone-breaker on this Bulk.
  2. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 7 May 2018 09: 25
    +10
    all the students were handed over to their parents))) Alex wants to go to shkolot, what a sadness that we have such an uncontested opposition.
    1. Merold
      Merold 7 May 2018 09: 30
      +6
      Quote: bankirchik34
      all the students were handed over to their parents))) Alex wants to go to shkolot, what a sadness that we have such an uncontested opposition.

      "Oh, how disgusting is this Navalny, to which he brought the poor policemen - he made them beat the children for the sake of a picture for their overseas owners"
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 May 2018 09: 35
        +11
        Quote: Merold
        made them beat the kids


        typical dvoechnik repetitive of 7B
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 12: 15
          +1
          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: Merold
          made them beat the kids


          typical dvoechnik repetitive of 7B

          I agree. Beat the losers!
      2. krops777
        krops777 7 May 2018 09: 38
        +13
        Oh, how disgusting is this Navalny, to which he brought the poor policemen - he made them beat the children for the sake of a picture for their overseas owners "


        Ahh, apparently on a piece of paper it’s written how to scream correctly when detained. wassat
      3. Colonel
        Colonel 7 May 2018 12: 14
        +2
        Quote: Merold
        made them beat the kids

        And where is the battered one in the picture, can you tell me?
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 12: 31
          0
          Quote: colonel
          Quote: Merold
          made them beat the kids

          And where is the battered one in the picture, can you tell me?

          I did not fit into the frame. Climbed only fallen and tucked up a loser. It is good that the police were nearby and helped him get to the emergency room.
  3. mavrus
    mavrus 7 May 2018 09: 28
    +3
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: maxim947
    As they say do not say what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...


    I generally thought it was a gay parade ..

    Is not it so?
  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto 7 May 2018 09: 31
    +15
    hosspadeeee, ...... this is about this FIG knows what yesterday? pff .... in the morning I read some pair of links and didn’t cut what I was talking about, only in the evening I clarified that it turned out to be a lot !!! a whole rally of the whole country from two percent imbeciles, .... well, clearly, understandably. Vacations .....)

    As for these statements - let this general secretary look at dispersing dissatisfied in the EU countries - with gas, water cannons, batons ... and, as it should, consider when ten policemen for one protester, without speaking, a gas jet in the face, with a club across the body and kicks on figs from the street, like that they disperse. And something does not cause any concern to anyone. request

    Yes, in Russia they are gently worn on the handles so that they themselves do not cripple the sick .....)











    1. LSA57
      LSA57 7 May 2018 09: 36
      +4
      Quote: DEZINTO
      As for these statements, let this secretary general look at dispersing dissatisfied in the EU countries.

      probably they did not see the Maidan with "cocktails" on the head of the "Golden Eagle"
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 7 May 2018 10: 18
        +6
        They just saw. And such in Russia is their sweet dream.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 7 May 2018 10: 23
          +4
          Quote: Mestny
          They just saw. And such in Russia - their sweet dream

          but it will be here. provocations will not work
    2. Valid benchmark
      Valid benchmark 7 May 2018 09: 39
      +13
      Yes there EU countries. A great example of how to act was shown by Ceyevrope on May 2, 2014 in Odessa. And note, no concern from the EU, PACE, OSCE, etc. such actions do not cause. For that, in case of holding such a democratic-demonstration campaign in any regional center, I would like to see how many supporters Navalny will bring to the next event.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 7 May 2018 10: 25
        +7
        Quote: Valid anchor
        A great example of how to act was shown by Ceyevrope on May 2, 2014 in Odessa.

        and when Sabakashvili’s supporters were washed with blood, they pretended "Yes, there wasn’t such a thing"
    3. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 7 May 2018 10: 51
      +4
      Yes, my friend you are a smoothie. Twisted them as much as two percent laughing In Krasnodar, they gathered 150 people, which is 0,017% of the population of the city. In Moscow, as far as I remember, it was 1500, i.e. as much as 0,012%. laughing
    4. Merold
      Merold 7 May 2018 12: 36
      0
      Quote: DEZINTO

      As for these statements - let this general secretary look at dispersing dissatisfied in the EU countries - with gas, water cannons, batons ..

      Maybe because these "dissatisfied" behaved mmm ... specifically?



      By the way, did you also attract aunts in Paris?
  5. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 7 May 2018 09: 31
    +9
    The hypocrites are pouted ... They drive their "revolutionaries" in the tail and mane, and all the way in compliance with democracy.
    As our policeman looks askance at a participant in an unauthorized procession, so is a violation of the rights and freedoms ... provocateurs
  6. Abram
    Abram 7 May 2018 09: 32
    +2
    oh, well, the Cossacks overtook the Navalnovsky with whips - it’s okay, they’ll be healthier. soon on May 9, in Ukraine, their “Cossacks” will whip up with the whips of the participants of the immortal regiment - this is also normal. There is an ordinary, civilized life smile
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 May 2018 09: 47
      +6
      But shaw, such a good lesson with the help of a whip, many have had brain stimulation !!! I began to think, you look and no longer pulls on all sorts of nonsense!
      But public control over observance of the norms of the law is necessary, it’s not a trace to wave for just like that!
    2. Genry
      Genry 7 May 2018 10: 46
      +3
      Quote: Abram
      Well, the Navalny Cossacks were whipped with whips

      Where does infa come from?
      This liberal journalism blurted out, and you repeat ... On Pushkin Square there were Cossacks from the NOD, (they guarded the war songs), but they did not whip anyone with whips. Their crowd of Navalny wanted to force out. Fiction like "they are children"!
      1. Abram
        Abram 7 May 2018 11: 31
        +2
        here. whether it’s Cossacks or not, I certainly don’t know, but law enforcement agencies are not trying to stop beating people. therefore, it seems that they are at the same time
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 7 May 2018 12: 29
          +7
          Beating, this is what Desinto's comrade brought in the photo above. In your photo, indignant Russian citizens are trying to stop the illegal actions of the crowd.
          1. Merold
            Merold 7 May 2018 12: 50
            +1
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Beating, this is what Desinto's comrade brought in the photo above. In your photo, indignant Russian citizens are trying to stop the illegal actions of the crowd.

            I hope that you do not cross the street in the wrong place. And then suddenly, some kind of "indignant citizens" will want to stop this with a kick to your chest.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 8 May 2018 00: 17
              +3
              No need to mow under bamboo, although you might like that. For mowing basements they offered a platform near the Basket Hall. Great place. Their majesty did not like it. They wanted in the center, where adults and children are constantly walking and relaxing. That is, this crowd is aware that their illegal actions will be stopped by police officers. They deliberately endangered the lives and health of other citizens. Now for the transition - if you cross in the wrong place and fall under the car, well, you health or the kingdom of heaven. But if, as a result of a violation by the bamboo of the SDA, a threat to the life of the health of my loved ones is created, then there will be a leg hit (repeatedly and throughout the body), and a whip, and other improvised means. Do you understand me? Buinov’s song for Moscow .... for you, this is your anthem.
              1. Merold
                Merold 8 May 2018 07: 03
                +1
                Quote: Okolotochny
                No need to mow under bamboo, although you might like that.

                It has long been noticed that if an opponent immediately begins to be rude, then he has bad arguments and will merge very soon.
                Quote: Okolotochny
                That is, this crowd is aware that their illegal actions will be stopped by police officers.

                To club citizens with peacefully walking clubs in a country where, as claimed, is democracy? Suppress along with mummers aunts hired for money by the government? Nipple?

                Quote: Okolotochny
                Deliberately endangered the lives and health of other citizens.

                Endangered the lives and health of other citizens? Wow! At least ONE example?
                Quote: Okolotochny
                But if, as a result of a violation by the bamboo of the SDA, a threat to the life of the health of my loved ones is created, then there will be a leg hit (repeatedly and throughout the body), and a whip, and other improvised means. Do you understand me? .

                I realized that you need to be isolated from society so that you do not take on the functions of both the court and the executor of the sentence.
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Buinov’s song for Moscow .... for you, this is your anthem.

                The fact that you are a gopnik is clear to me. Now I would like to hear something reasoned.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 9 May 2018 16: 46
                  +1
                  Democracy implies first and foremost compliance with the law. Is there a law on rallies? There is. Be kind to carry it out. The example of Ukraine did not teach you. Are you the guardian of the law? Court appeal here? Or can I see, but I can’t see here? And yes, the organizers of the demonstration knowingly put at risk the lives and health of others. Firstly, the fact that others came to their rallies. Secondly passers-by and vacationers. They are provocateurs. They were well aware that they were breaking the law (I don’t hear your indignation “thief in law”), they were well aware that the police would stop the violation of the law, she was obliged to do it, this was her direct duty. And you need to isolate people like you - they are children. Those who like to talk about the rule of law, but stand behind those who consciously violate it and endanger the health and lives of others.
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 9 May 2018 18: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Democracy implies first and foremost compliance with the law. Is there a law on rallies? There is. .

                    Is.
                    Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons, to hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.
                    The example of Ukraine did not teach you. Are you the guardian of the law?

                    When they start to burn tires, smash windows and turn cars over, then let the police use special equipment. Like "theirs." Not earlier.
                    organizers of the demonstration Knowingly endangered the lives and health of others.

                    I already kind of asked to give at least ONE example? Your fantasies are not interesting to me.
                    They were well aware that they were breaking the law (I don’t hear your indignation “legalist”)

                    Once again, carefully read article 31 of the Constitution of the country in which you live.
                    they were well aware that the police would stop the violation of the law, she was obliged to do this, it was her direct duty.

                    good

                    And you need to isolate people like you - they are children. Those who like to talk about the rule of law, but stand behind those who consciously violate it and endanger the health and lives of others.

                    And then people like you shout: "Tell Comrade Stalin that a monstrous mistake has occurred!"
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 12 May 2018 00: 58
                      +1
                      What is your example? You specifically stupid, according to the training manual? Was the rally authorized by the authorities? No. Was it carried out as part of the law? No. Is he not legal? Yes. What are law enforcement officers required to do in case of violation of laws? Nip. By what means? Physical strength, special equipment, in case of a threat to the life and health of citizens firearms. Even without weapons, when using physical force and special equipment can strangers suffer when it comes to a densely populated area in the center of a metropolis? Yes. Is it clear now? And when they burn tires, then consider that the country is already gone. It is a fact that spineless power will soon be torn down. That would not be asked more idiotic questions pull up the Law on rallies, the Law on the police, study, and then write your nonsense. And do not flaunt the Constitution. She voices the basic tenets. They specify their laws and other by-laws and regulations. Laws on rallies and on the police among them. Before arguing It is necessary to Know the laws of the country where you live.
                      1. Merold
                        Merold 12 May 2018 07: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        You specifically stupid, according to the training manual ?.

                        Those. Logically substantiating your point of view, giving you examples and links to the laws of the country in which you live, is this "I am stupid by the training manual"?
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Was the rally authorized by the authorities? No. Was it carried out as part of the law? No. Is he not legal? .

                        The basic law of the country in which you live says the opposite. Constitution? No, not heard.
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Nip. By what means? Physical strength, special equipment, in case of a threat to the life and health of citizens firearms. Even without weapons, when using physical force and special equipment can strangers suffer when it comes to a densely populated area in the center of a metropolis? Yes. Is it clear now?.

                        I’ve even given you a photo of an unauthorized (and, as a result, in your words) illegal Muslim rally on Nikitskaya in Moscow, which the police (which "must prevent this") did not stop. For some reason, you ignored him. Probably because in my training manual there is no answer to it, right?
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        And when they burn tires, then consider that the country is already gone. It is a fact that spineless power will soon be torn down

                        The fact that you have problems with elementary logic can be seen even without a microscope. Show photos of how to burn tires in Italy, Spain, Poland, USA ....? They are not here?
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        That would not be asked more idiotic questions pull up the Law on rallies, the Law on the police, study, and then write your nonsense. And do not flaunt the Constitution.

                        Bravo! In principle, everyone knows this, but you have once again shown that by-laws are more important than the Basic Law of the country in Russia. I won’t be surprised if security guards in supermarkets soon turn out pockets of visitors and kick them.
                        PS: You, from a great mind and knowledge of the subject, did not give examples of how the rally posed threats to the life and health of people and how in the United States and France the authorities use burdened clowns to beat protesters?
                        PS 2: But by the training manual I’m spying! good
                        -
          2. Abram
            Abram 7 May 2018 13: 29
            0
            I totally agree with you! But, you do not suffer from double standards? winked When indignant Ukrainian citizens try to stop the crowd’s illegal actions on May 9th, you won’t vote here about the fascists beating up the members of the immortal regiment? smile
            1. Valid benchmark
              Valid benchmark 7 May 2018 13: 58
              +3
              Well, what are you, double standards. To slap a teenager who is stupefied with impunity in the ass, with an educational goal, and burn people alive, these are actions of the same order.
              1. Abram
                Abram 7 May 2018 14: 25
                0
                Who's talking about burning alive? Also, exclusively for educational purposes, in the ass. Although, judging by the video, you can not only in the ass, but where will smile
                1. Valid benchmark
                  Valid benchmark 7 May 2018 14: 33
                  0
                  No, well, then they burned it. Do you think that you need to educate teenagers and old people by methods alone? Do you teach your grandmother so wisdom? Suddenly, she wants the same with her father’s portrait on Victory Day to go out into the street, educate her right in the apartment, so as not to disgrace you?
                  1. Abram
                    Abram 7 May 2018 15: 26
                    0
                    if you are about May 2, then I think everything is not so clear smile who told you that only teenagers are in bulk, and there are only old men in the immortal regiment? As they will slam the ass, they must act selectively, without touching too old and too young. beasts, slaughter everyone in a row, nowhere smile
        2. Genry
          Genry 7 May 2018 12: 30
          +5
          Good video!
          Shows the lies of Bulk Media. "Here are the Cossacks, ..... they are beating, .... they are beating." But the way the liberals got into a fight against the old people who sang war songs did not show.
          Cossacks simply pushed aside the bulk and became a wall. Oh! How dare they prevent the liberals ....
          And besides NOD, no one has yet resisted the buildup of the Maidan in Russia. Therefore, the coordinator Evgeny Fedorov is so bad, they can’t eat.
          1. Merold
            Merold 7 May 2018 12: 52
            +2
            Quote: Genry
            Good video!
            Shows the lies of Bulk Media. "Here are the Cossacks, ..... they are beating, .... they are beating." But the way the liberals got into a fight against the old people who sang war songs did not show.
            .

            I am sure that you will correct this omission now. Show us, did you get it from somewhere?
            1. Genry
              Genry 7 May 2018 13: 20
              +1
              There is no shooting, BUT !!!
              The Pushkin Monument is a traditional venue for NOD shares.

              What the hell did the provocateurs of Navalny climbed into when they had another place registered?
              Well, with your video, the conclusion about provocation and a fool is clear.
              1. Merold
                Merold 7 May 2018 13: 57
                +2
                Quote: Genry
                There is no shooting, BUT !!!

                - Liberasts beat old people !.
                - Where, show.
                - No filming, but here's another video with Fedorov.
                good
                1. Abram
                  Abram 7 May 2018 14: 28
                  +2
                  it is always so with them. ask, "What time is it?" they are to you: "Thank you, I already had lunch!" smile
                2. Genry
                  Genry 7 May 2018 14: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Merold
                  - No filming, but here's another video with Fedorov.

                  Your liberalist filmed this interview with Fedorov. He tried to poke him with the powers of the president and he himself was foolish.
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 7 May 2018 14: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: Genry
                    Quote: Merold
                    - No filming, but here's another video with Fedorov.

                    Your liberalist filmed this interview with Fedorov. He tried to poke him with the powers of the president and he himself was foolish.

                    And how does this relate to my question about where the "liberals" beat the elderly?
                    1. Genry
                      Genry 7 May 2018 16: 08
                      +1
                      Quote: Merold
                      And how does this relate to my question about where the "liberals" beat the elderly?

                      So they say that there were no shootings. But you, on this issue, caught the view with Fedorov, who was filming your liberalist.
                      And stop giving yourself likes.
                      Nobody reads this thread ...
                      1. Merold
                        Merold 7 May 2018 16: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Genry
                        Quote: Merold
                        And how does this relate to my question about where the "liberals" beat the elderly?

                        So they say that there were no shootings ..

                        And where did you get this from?

                        Quote: Genry

                        And stop giving yourself likes.
                        Nobody reads this thread ...

                        fool
  7. svp67
    svp67 7 May 2018 09: 32
    +8
    I am concerned about reports of violence and mass detentions during yesterday’s opposition demonstrations in Russia. Peaceful demonstrators who were detained should be released,
    said jagland.

    According to him, “freedom of assembly is a fundamental right protected by the European Convention on Human Rights.”
    Unfortunately, the organizers of the demonstrations and the authorities were unable to agree on the locations for the demonstrations. In democratic societies, such issues should be resolved in a peaceful and consensus manner in accordance with the Convention and the case law of the Strasbourg Court,
    declared the secretary general.
    The Council of Europe is ready to help our Russian member state improve its legislation on freedom of assembly,added on.

    Everything seems to be correct, but one thing BUT, but what did this "secretary general" say about the events taking place at the same time in Paris, are there all the rules with democracy? No help needed?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 May 2018 09: 43
      +8
      If law enforcement officers do not maintain order, it will be like in a geyropa the same where the police do not go to many areas at all, because it may hurt, and some sections can finally be burned !!!
      Public control is of course needed, Schaubs were not forgotten, but young people should be taught public order and laws to be respected! The normal public order in any state is built on this! Mess, still here, we do not need!
    2. Merold
      Merold 7 May 2018 14: 00
      +3
      Quote: svp67

      but what did this "general secretary" say about the events taking place at the same time in Paris, are there all the rules with democracy? No help needed?

      He said that with people turning and burning cars, smashing windows and shops - that’s exactly what you should do.
      1. svp67
        svp67 7 May 2018 15: 23
        +2
        Quote: Merold
        He said that with people turning and burning cars, smashing windows and shops - that’s exactly what you should do.

        And where are the "democratic values"? And why ours can be "hooligan", and Europeans NEVER ...?
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 15: 52
          +1
          Quote: svp67

          And where are the "democratic values"? And why ours can be "hooligan", and Europeans NEVER ...?

          Well, show the burned police cars in Moscow and the broken windows and facades. At the same time show mummers in France.
          1. svp67
            svp67 7 May 2018 16: 41
            +3
            Quote: Merold
            Well, show the burned police cars in Moscow and the broken windows and facades.

            Do you think that this should be allowed? If they are not brought to life, it will soon come to that ... Navalny’s ambitions to seize power are not limited to showcases and cars, he needs to burn the whole country
            1. Merold
              Merold 7 May 2018 18: 06
              0
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Merold
              Well, show the burned police cars in Moscow and the broken windows and facades.

              Do you think that this should be allowed?

              I believe that if you show pictures where “their police do the same with the demonstrators,” then the demonstrators in Moscow should act “the same way” as they do. And when the Russian police “knead” absolutely peaceful rallies simply because they are against the current government (even this was not the case in Armenia), then this is a direct path to totalitarianism.
              Quote: svp67
              If they are not brought to their senses, then it will soon come to that ...

              How many years has Navalny held rallies, but it still hasn’t "reached"?
              Quote: svp67
              . Navalny’s ambitions to seize power are not limited to showcases and cars, he needs to burn the whole country

              You didn’t accidentally write in the same confident tone that “you need a maidan in Armenia”? And if you look?
              PS: It is especially charming that the Russian police do not hesitate to act together with such mumbled aunts of a completely criminal kind.


              I want to ask you as a connoisseur: was this also observed in Paris?
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 8 May 2018 00: 21
            +2
            Enchanting nonsense. Lesha, is that you? You're wrong. Go ducks in ponds let
  8. mavrus
    mavrus 7 May 2018 09: 41
    +3
    Quote: bankirchik34
    all the students were handed over to their parents))) Alex wants to go to shkolot, what a sadness that we have such an uncontested opposition.

    A zombie shkolota who climbs out of Facebook only for such events. "For the State Department! For bulk!". And in contrast to this State Department, the State Duma with Mizulina, from a great mind, blocks access to a review of cigarettes in stores ... A very virgin measure in the fight for "children's minds."
  9. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 7 May 2018 09: 42
    +5
    This pedophile sisyan would be detained at least once for 15 days with revenge and garbage being pulled out to work on the streets! So no! Golimy him PR do! Although for repeated violations it has long been possible!
  10. Altona
    Altona 7 May 2018 09: 45
    +3
    In Europe, for this much more affection from law enforcement. To rebel against a "democratically elected" power.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 May 2018 09: 46
    +8
    Thorbjorn Jagland expressed concern
    Are there few problems in the EU? If there is still little, then it is simply necessary to help them create them.
    Council of Europe ready to help our member state of Russia improve your legislation
    Your "help" including writing has been known since the 90s. Therefore, you are with such proposals to Macron, and even better to a country that is in Europe.
  12. HMR333
    HMR333 7 May 2018 09: 47
    +1
    let them worry about the French!
  13. Senior manager
    Senior manager 7 May 2018 09: 49
    +3
    Gentlemen, like Jagland, do not express concern when the owner pounded his people in Ferguson, or hundreds of thousands of people died in Iran from the weapons of the owner. What to perceive their concerns are people with reduced social responsibility. There are more capacious words in Russian ...
  14. Pacifist
    Pacifist 7 May 2018 09: 51
    +5
    Something is not heard of concern about the nightmarish modoboy with gas and special forces in Paris. Where are the loud statements from the OSCE?
    They would walk the forest restless. They tied all these hamsters for breaking the law and in the framework of law enforcement rights to ensure law and order.
  15. sleeve
    sleeve 7 May 2018 09: 59
    +2
    That's why we all affirm here that they completely do not understand our realities. They climb with their charter into a monastery that is alien and unaware. yes they all understand.
    Quote:
    "I am worried about reports of violence and mass detentions during yesterday’s opposition demonstrations in Russia. Peaceful demonstrators who were detained should be released,"
    Yes, they will be released in a matter of hours. Cool down and home. This is legislation, damn it. But have time to yell and label "pressure", and even the "result" of this pressure is widely demonstrated, it’s straight forever please. And here you are, as if on the go-ahead (or rather, on the go-ahead) they took care.
    "Opposition" ... Oh, why instead of constructive we only have clowns made? She, after all, needs this opposition, very much. But where can I get it? Where can I get it in the moment where HYIP reigns, and is it the empty front without obligations that it is? ...
  16. Valerevich
    Valerevich 7 May 2018 10: 01
    +2
    They would follow themselves, seeing a speck in the eyes of others do not notice the logs in their ...
  17. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 7 May 2018 10: 05
    +3
    Because of such statements of all sorts of Jaglands, it becomes necessary to send the EU far away. But seriously, it’s enough to look back at what Europe says. It is time to finally deal with the amendment of the legislation of the Russian Federation in order to bring it into the norm of what the sovereign state should have. And to consider such statements as interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
    As for the demonstrators themselves, it remains only to sympathize ... but in no case to understand and not to forgive. Legislation in the Russian Federation must be respected and if mass events are not agreed upon then they must be stopped in the bud.
  18. 72jora72
    72jora72 7 May 2018 10: 16
    +4
    The Council of Europe is ready to help our Russian member state improve its legislation on freedom of assembly,
    Come out! Miserable! Chur me, chur!
  19. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 7 May 2018 10: 17
    +5
    "80% of the detained Navalny supporters were released after the conversation ..." What "is the concern ?!"
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 7 May 2018 10: 36
      +2
      In Europe, anything but what is needed. And in Russia, it would be necessary to really express concern that a crowd of violators was released without punishment.
  20. thinker
    thinker 7 May 2018 10: 25
    +2
    That's who would blather, enlightened Europe ...
    In 1864 year during the reign of Alexander II, a “Decree on the withdrawal from corporal punishment of secondary school students” appeared
    Corporal punishment in public schools in Britain was categorically prohibited by the European Court of Justice in Strasbourg, you won’t believe it, only in 1987. Private schools resorted to corporal punishment of students for another 6 years after this.
  21. K-50
    K-50 7 May 2018 10: 39
    +6
    Secretary General of the Council of Europe (CE) Thorbjorn Jagland expressed concern about the actions of the Russian authorities during yesterday's demonstrations organized by supporters of Alexei Navalny

    Two-faced ub people !!!
    What did “concern” not express when European protesters were dispersed by water cannons, tear gas, and simply batons at last? fool When do hefty cops beat old people, old women and women? When the crowd kicks one person who somehow didn’t arrange them (probably not in Feng Shui what )?
    Vobschem poh an barking !!! negative
  22. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 7 May 2018 10: 43
    +4
    Let them first worry about the protesters in France. And they tell us how such issues should be addressed in democratic societies along the way by dispersing rallies with rubber bullets, water cannons and tear gas. In general, we must leave such organizations, because there is no sense for the country from them.
  23. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 7 May 2018 10: 51
    +5
    I am worried about reports of violence and mass detentions during yesterday’s opposition demonstrations in Russia.

    But the situation in Europe does not bother you all? Engage yourself, fucking tolerasts.
    Council of Europe ready to help our member state of Russia improve its legislation on freedom of assembly

    Help yourself better. Well, there, find money to finance PACE or deal with migrants. Somehow we ourselves are here ... Without snotty sufferers, we will decide what to do with local wrecks.
    Strange thing .. for some reason, these "well-wishers" are more and more annoying me .. It’s strange not that they are annoying, but it’s strange that they really enrage! Bring out their speeches from a state of mental equilibrium.
  24. Horon
    Horon 7 May 2018 11: 00
    +3
    How long have Europe broken up its demonstrations ?! Who would have stuttered about freedom of assembly! Even half a year had not passed before the demonstrators were dispersed in the EU.
  25. Antares
    Antares 7 May 2018 11: 29
    0
    Diplomatic work is just that. Condemnation of another, justification of his own.
    Everyone is doing it. USA, EU, RF, etc ...
    After all, no one pays attention anyway! From "statements" nothing happens.
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 7 May 2018 12: 58
      +2
      Quote: Antares
      Diplomatic work is just that. Condemnation of another, justification of his own.
      Everyone is doing it. USA, EU, RF, etc ...
      After all, no one pays attention anyway! From "statements" nothing happens.

      And you, that, Odessa Mizdobul, changed zhovtno-blakidny to union jack?
      Moved to London or just ponte pounding?
  26. Technician72
    Technician72 7 May 2018 11: 42
    0
    Quote: Logall
    Council of Europe ready to help our member state of Russia improve its legislation on freedom of assembly
    No, stop writing our laws! The Constitution was enough ... And then the Egegeans will be allowed to go through the streets.

    How did the constitution not please you? The authorities would still observe it.
  27. Andrey Panov
    Andrey Panov 7 May 2018 11: 51
    +2
    It is time to introduce an article in the Criminal Code on attracting minors to rallies and demonstrations.
    Nefig radicals produce. These two-year-olds will now remember that their police took to the jail, and will try to take revenge.
    1. Technician72
      Technician72 7 May 2018 11: 55
      +1
      What kind of radicals? This is generally the constitutional right to peacefully gather without weapons.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 7 May 2018 14: 20
        +3
        Quote: Technician72
        constitutional law is peaceful, without weapons to assemble.

        The keyword is peaceful. yes Again - the event should be agreed to be held in a specific place. The same tricksters, you see, need to arrange a hangout where they decided, and not where they were allowed, yeah. There is already a provocation. And in most cases there was no agreement. Yes, only the contingent on the drum - it’s not in vain that Leshik, this pedophile from politics, draws minors to his covens, who, at this stage, have a smaller brain than their eyes. And with all this husk, the authorities act more than gently. At least for now.
  28. Guru
    Guru 7 May 2018 12: 43
    +1
    The Council of Europe is ready to help our Russian member state improve its legislation on freedom of assembly,
    You already helped us in the 90s. Thank you. Leave yourself.
  29. Guru
    Guru 7 May 2018 12: 45
    0
    Quote: Technician72
    What kind of radicals? This is generally the constitutional right to peacefully gather without weapons.

    So get ready - whoever does not give you that. And what are you driving into the city center - you create traffic jams.
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 May 2018 13: 00
    0
    Here's how something in my mind immediately came up the answer to their proposal in
    plan for changing our legislation.
    And I think that for the majority of those present, it is approximately similar to mine.
  31. Lelek
    Lelek 7 May 2018 13: 04
    0
    ("I am worried about reports of violence and mass detentions during yesterday’s opposition demonstrations in Russia. Peaceful demonstrators who were detained should be released."Jagland said.)
    "Teach your spiders ..." and do not meddle in our garden with your advice. Listen better to the advice of your other European top-level guru:
  32. midshipman
    midshipman 7 May 2018 13: 52
    +1
    The authorities of the Russian Federation must fully borrow the experience of the PRC. 200 Protestants were quickly brought to their senses in the square and the performances ceased.
    It was a shame to look at the children yesterday who held posters for US money. Youth must be loaded with work, study, competitions, charity. the fight against crime (squads). And do not go with the posters "......... thief." In adulthood, they will be ashamed of themselves.
  33. AlexS
    AlexS 7 May 2018 14: 15
    +1
    False hypocrites. Yesterday in Europe 160 thousand were on strike and silence. Let them help themselves, insignificance ...
  34. sagitch
    sagitch 7 May 2018 14: 22
    0
    The opinion of “geyrops” is, after all, a “litmus test”, they are worried, so we are doing everything right!
  35. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 7 May 2018 17: 01
    0
    don’t teach Russia you are a “teacher”, and if you’re so restless, like valerian, drink so that your nerves aren’t naughty. With your charter in someone else’s Monastery.!
  36. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 7 May 2018 17: 13
    -1
    Glands need to be removed, is true Tygland ???
  37. gippernano
    gippernano 7 May 2018 18: 35
    0
    Jagland, cover the little pot, - it stinks.
  38. gippernano
    gippernano 7 May 2018 18: 40
    0
    minor participants in an unauthorized rally detained by the police were transferred to their parents

    Will they even write a letter? What are they doing instead of preparing for the exam?
    Yes, and in universities it will probably not be interesting to what baggage entrants gathered to do with them. Unless HSE will accept such cheers.
  39. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 7 May 2018 19: 38
    +1
    This is precisely what we are observing, as in a democratic France of “peaceful” demonstrators breaking store windows and demolishing fences, the police are quietly asking for water cannons and rubber bullets to go home ...
  40. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 May 2018 23: 58
    0
    Two-faced Jagand, and in France, in the Baltic countries, in Ukraine, everything happens without violating the rights of citizens? why are you silent, my dear?
  41. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 8 May 2018 00: 32
    0
    Manure of anal seething and indignant ...
  42. heir
    heir 8 May 2018 01: 32
    0
    In the USA, you can shoot at peaceful protesters, in France you can’t beat-up, I don’t want to, but in Russia, because the opposition brings Western peoples democratic values ​​to its people, the West is outraged by the interference of anyone in their protests. Therefore: the people beat, beats and will beat!