President: Not all items of May decrees are executed to the point

Today will be the inauguration of the President of the Russian Federation. Vladimir Putin officially takes office as president on the basis of the election results held on March 18. Recall that then Putin gave their votes to more than 76% of Russians who came to the polls.

Before taking office, Vladimir Putin commented on those decrees that were issued six years ago and were called "May". According to the president, not everything managed to be implemented “to the point”.

From the statement of Vladimir Putin (quote "Russia24"):

Key areas of government work were related to the implementation of the May 2012 decrees of the year. Yes, there were difficulties, problems, not all indicators were achieved exactly to the point. It always happens when you undertake a large-scale, long-term project (...) At the same time, the situation constantly changed, new, often very objective factors appeared.

Vladimir Putin called salary growth in the public sector the most important advantage. According to the head of state, “Increasing the authority and prestige of the work of the teacher, doctor, workers in other fields that determine the future of the country”.

From the presidential statement on the tasks for the next presidential term:

In general, our key task in the coming years is to confidently increase the real incomes of citizens. For this, there is now a good base. The overall sustainability of the economy has grown, and it has coped with a sharp drop in oil prices, and with attempts at sanctions pressure, and with fluctuations in the global situation. Government actions have made it possible to overcome the recession, provide recovery and recovery in many sectors of the economy. In general, the economy is on the growth trajectory.

Based on these statements, political scientists believed that the composition of the government of the Russian Federation would not undergo fundamental changes.

Comments

[Nychego]

Yes, it seems like nothing was done in a quality manner: over 70 constituent entities of the Russian Federation are in debt for the very tomatoes.

[Click]

Borrower, a priori debtor

[Teberii]

"Life has become better, Life has slacked more fun." What is there to add.

[Sibiriya]

It feels like the president and the government are living in parallel reality. Failure to comply with the decrees indicates the incompetence of management both at the planning stage and at the stage of execution and control.

[siberalt]

Today the boss of Russia is inaugurated and all will be happy!

[milling machine]

Quote: Siberia

It feels like the president and the government are living in parallel reality. Failure to comply with the decrees indicates the incompetence of management both at the planning stage and at the stage of execution and control.

Putin when he issued his decrees - did he justify where and where to get money for nishtyaki? Many economists after the "May decrees" said that it was unreasonable populism. And now they tell us what, they say, the ministers did not work and did not comply with the decrees. An old balalaika about a good king and bad boyars.
It seems to me that you need to ask from the one who promised t. E. President. But it turns out that the president is not responsible for anything. Although not, if something good happened in the country, then Putin did a fine job, and if something bad happened, "and what does Putin have to do with it?

[demo]

Not just in parallel reality, but also in the future.
Miracles of Russian science - combined time and space.
And with the amount of our guarantor disguised.
Instead of the words “before the decimal point”, it was necessary to say “not a single decimal point”.
And all would be true.

[Merold]

Quote: demo

Not just in parallel reality, but also in the future.
Miracles of Russian science - combined time and space.
And with the amount of our guarantor disguised.
Instead of the words “before the decimal point”, it was necessary to say “not a single decimal point”.
And all would be true.

[Dedall]

Respected Siberiya (Dmitry), and no one thought to execute these decrees. From a distance for the people according to the type: "Now, and unhook!" For already a month and a half, civilian medical personnel have been trying to find out from our military unit why the Order of the Minister of Defense, issued in 2014 under No. 380 for the purpose of implementing Decree No. 598, did not at all provide for an increase in wages for civilian personnel of medical personnel of military units. Instead, the order says that this increase applies only to medical institutions. The same story is in that civil hospital, where I perform the hourly load of the doctor’s rate. But I was told that the increase applies only to regular workers.

[spirit]

And as the goddaughter of GDP Sobchak says: We are happy

[Vladivostok1969]

We are happy that you rule happily

[Bad_santa]

I don’t understand either in our country the power really broke away from the people, or there is only one 5 column sitting here, trolls, alarmists and all-burrs, heaped up and just bad people. Aw, cheers, where are you ??? not one comment for the pro-government "elite."
But seriously, the people began to wake up and stopped believing promises. The worst thing is that Putin, with his policies, leads the people to hell, when they have no strength left to endure. And what happens when the Russian people are brought to a pen, we have already seen many times in the past. So it’s still not clear what is worse for Russia: an external enemy or such a government when people are taken to extremes and a revolution is taking place.
One theory comes to mind - Putin is a much better figure for the collapse of the country than any external pressure, and all confrontation with the West is just a fiction to cover up the plans for the collapse of Russia from the inside. Feed the people with promises and imaginary victories, a swine attitude to him, to keep people in check until hour X, when all the cards are opened and people just realize that they have been fooled for decades. And the revolution will begin

[Vladivostok1969]

I agree. It can be assumed that our president plays the role of such a PATRIOT, but only in public. good plays. Artist pancake.

[Bad_santa]

The bulk of the Russian economy is in the jurisdiction of other countries. And more specifically, in offshore. As Russia lived through the sale of resources, it lives on. I would advise all patriots to ask themselves why the West to ruin Russia. Because of the resources? So we have been selling them for a long time already. Loot the country? So the oligarchs have been robbing her for a long time and withdrawing all funds abroad. Could the country be ruined? So why should they feed China with our rich lands. Maybe we don’t play according to their rules? So look how often our politicians refer to "international law" and voice "concerns" in response to the attacks.

[Gardamir]

Aw, cheers, where are you ???

elections have passed, why spend money on them?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Bad_Santa

I don’t understand either in our country the power really broke away from the people, or there is only one 5 column sitting here, trolls, alarmists and all-burrs, heaped up and just bad people. Aw, cheers, where are you ??? not one comment for the pro-government "elite."

Where ?, Where? .... On the spot! We sit "quietly" quietly, but read how the "liberalists", "pro-Westerners" and other swamp veterans of the white tape movement "offended" by their loss in the presidential election hone their mastery of verbiage. Why bother people? Well, “people” cannot accept that they are not able to drive Russia back into the “fat and well-fed” 90s. They are shaken in epaulettes and cramps because 75% of Russia's population voted for GDP and do not want to follow the path of prosperity of Urkaina. Let these "whistleblowers" even here, on this site say "the truth of the womb", otherwise the ailment can happen to them - "constipation psychosis" i.e. clouding of the mind due to the inability to be realized - we will not interfere.

[Dedall]

And I at the Vybory, while the family with an adjoining neighbor voted, turned around at the ballot boxes. There the walls are transparent, and the pieces of paper are all written side down. And I noticed on them that there was not one for Putin. Basically, people voted for Grudinin. And I would advise you not to lick the heels of the Masters of Life, unless, of course, this is a way of earning a living.

[the most important]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Aw, cheers, where are you ??? not one comment for the pro-government "elite."

As where?? That's it, the elections are over, there is a result, FINANCE is over - there are no comments. And those who remain today stand with flags and joyfully wave their tuple in the wake.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Aw, cheers, where are you ???

Natu. There are only alas patriots left

Quote: Bad_Santa

Putin is a much better figure for the collapse of the country than any external pressure

Cool! This has not happened, patent until it's too late
But seriously, if - the patriots (without "cheers") are busy. Work work. If you thought that they would entertain you all the way, as before the election, you (all of you) were mistaken ...
/ Pichalka

[Serg65]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Natu. There are only alas patriots left

Offset Roma!
Hi!

[Bad_santa]

By the way, what's up with Grudinin? Planted? He was brought to "clean water" before the election and there was reinforced concrete evidence on all charges. Though take and knit after the election

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Today, 11: 21
By the way, what's up with Grudinin? Planted?

No idea. I have never been particularly interested

[Vladivostok1969]

But seriously, if - the patriots (without "cheers") are busy. Work work. If you thought that they would entertain you all the way, as before the election, you (all of you) were mistaken ...

You are revered and it seems that only you are working tirelessly, glad for your native country, and your opponents (including me) are sitting here on the site and we’re not lifting anything harder than the mouse, and we’re sitting for the State Department’s money. I want to disappoint you. Most of us work, and at the most ordinary enterprises and organizations in our country. But we assess the situation in our country not like you do. And we have the right to it. But we love Russia no less than yours, and maybe even more than some of yours Colleagues

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

I want to disappoint you

This is you in vain.
I answered Bad Santa, and the comment is clearly provocative. I did not plan to offend you at all.

[Hottabych]

Quote: Bad_Santa

not one comment

Not a single comment ...

Quote: Bad_Santa

where are you???

Work, probably ...

Quote: Bad_Santa

And the revolution will begin

It doesn’t start, do not piss!

[Denis Obukhov]

Putin admitted that there were difficulties with the implementation of the May decrees, "not all indicators have been achieved accurate to the point." He said that “it always happens when you undertake a large-scale, long-term project“ What does he carry? !!! With such a leader as Vova, we would definitely not have won the Second World War.

[rocket757]

The fifth column in one line, hurray patriots in another, build!
Now let's see which line is longer?
If you look at the election results, there can be no doubt about the length of each line .... or maybe ???
Oh yes, those who are hiding in the bushes, evaded from mobilization, at least gather a handful, Schaub was easier than you ha ha ......

[Serg65]

Quote: rocket757

Now let's see which line is longer?

And what to watch, of course, the fifth with you in the role of the right-flank!

[rocket757]

The charge was thrown! And justify? Ali as our "foreign partners" just to blur, but will it go there?
As? Just hollow --- that talker or stand up for yourselves?

[Serg65]

Quote: rocket757

Ali as our "foreign partners"

your partners, I don’t know about your partner affairs!

Quote: rocket757

And to justify?

Quote: rocket757

If you look at the election results, there can be no doubt about the length of each rank

Similarly!
I see you are a big fan of fans!

[rocket757]

It’s clear, emptiness ....!

[Serg65]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

With such a leader as Vova, we would definitely not have won the Second World War.

Who are you? I assume a friend that you personally would mow from the front in all available ways

[samarin1969]

"" Increasing the authority and prestige of the work of the teacher, doctor, workers in other areas that determine the future of the country. "
"prestige" and "authority" in rubles are not measured. In general, in 2018, there was a decrease in rates.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: samarin1969

In general, in 2018, there was a decrease in rates.

I will tell you in 42 regions. If until November 2017 the salary of a nurse was 16 rubles, in November-December 960 - 2017 rubles, then since January, “increased” by the promises of Putin and retired Tuleyev, - 25 rubles.
But the prices cheered up. Potato (edible, not fodder for cattle ) at a price of 30 rubles per kilogram and above - everyday reality ...

[Bad_santa]

But you can reduce the price of food and consumer goods with one decree. it is only necessary to reduce excise taxes on diesel fuel and agricultural production will begin rebirth. Logistics will give the same results.

[Monster_Fat]

According to the "May decrees" - blah blah blah ........... you will need blah blah blah .... preferably blah blah blah ..... we plan blah blah blah ....

[Vladivostok1969]

Well, it’s possible not to listen to the president. The whole speech was retold

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Monster_Fat

According to the "May decrees" - blah blah blah ........... you will need blah blah blah .... preferably blah blah blah ..... we plan blah blah blah ....

YES WHAT you, under a star-striped ensemble, THE DIFFERENCE ??? This is our Russian blah blah blah. Watch out for Trump and his hands.

[Serg65]

Quote: Nyrobsky

YES WHAT YOU

Very much what !!! Here is the white-collar Monster_Fat and the communist Vladivostok1969 in one harness against Putin ... as in the good old days against the tsar! And you say what a retailer

[Vladivostok1969]

I am not a communist. But the ideology of communism is close to me. And I also remember how our country lived until the mid-80s

[Serg65]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

And I also remember how our country lived until the mid-80's

Come on???
And how did she live until the mid-80?

[Vladivostok1969]

You have never dreamed of this

[Serg65]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

You have never dreamed of this

And if you take into account the fact that when you were born, I’ve twisted mullets to sparrows, then generally cool

[Vladivostok1969]

Well, you see the memory is short. I won’t help you. And you can twist the figs further.

[Relic Empire]

To do this, you need a little - a planned economy.

[Vadim237]

"Planned Economy". It doesn’t matter what and how much to release - the main thing is to release and it doesn’t matter that nobody will need a part of this released - well, this is all planned, the USSR “stumbled” about it.

[Relic Empire]

The USSR did not stumble about this ... In addition, judging by the commentary, you have the same idea of ​​a planned economy as the structure of an alternative universe. At the same time, explain how by decree you can regulate diesel prices? Are you firmly convinced that by lowering excise taxes (state margin) you will force a private trader to lower the price? It’s easier for him to close the processing complex to “scheduled repair and modernization” and maintain the price level, than lower the price and release LARGE quantity for a LOWER price. The famous Yulia from neighboring neglect at one time tried to state the price of fuel. The market reacted instantly, and exactly as I said above.

[the most important]

Quote: RelictEmpire

judging by the comments, you have the same idea about a planned economy as about the structure of an alternative universe. At the same time, explain how by decree you can regulate diesel prices?

And judging by your comment, you generally have no idea about the fundamentals of the economy. The rate of profit can be set for monopolists and dominants in the market or for the industry as a whole, and excess profits are taxed at a rate of MORE profit. Very briefly how to adjust prices.

[Relic Empire]

Well, why are you here, and not in the economic bloc of the government ??? Advisor, for example ... :))) And read how you can effectively, under our legislation, show virtually zero profit. In order not to pay extra taxes ...

[Vadim237]

I have an idea and a fact - a planned economy and generosity for half the world, destroyed the USSR.

[Serg65]

Quote: ROSS 42

I will tell you in the 42 region

Wow, but I still was sure that you are still shooting howitzers with the BDK, and you’re already in Kemerovo ... well, then !!!!!

[Gardamir]

"Increasing the authority and prestige of the work of a teacher, doctor

go into business, that's all prestige.

[Hellraiser]

Gentlemen-rulers, red princes!
Have a drop of leniency!
Give me something
That which is impossible.
I’ll go for all the hardships for you!

Citizens officials, let your honor!
Help your neighbor a little!
Give me something
What you can’t eat!
Yes, I will pray for you to God!

Hey, young merchants!
Trading - good afternoon!
Save money from robbery
Give me something
What you have
I will leave you alone for a century!

Clever sly, prophets, wise men
eternal saviors of the people!
Give me something
So as not to give ends
From such an obsessive freedom!

[Click]

It’s fresh tradition, but hard to believe! .. I’m talking about it .... the "increase in the authority and prestige of the work of the teacher, doctor, workers of other fields,

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Click

I'm talking about it .... "increase in prestige and prestige ...

They simply didn’t put those specialties there. According to the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation, the following professions bothered to get increased prestige:
- Auditors (from 60 to 160 thousand rubles).
- Marketers (100-200 thousand rubles).
- HR specialists.
- Realtors (an average of 150 thousand rubles).
- Lawyers (from 100 to 000 rubles).
- Dentists (up to 100-300 thousand rubles).
- IT-specialists (100-300 thousand rubles).
- Pilots of civil aviation - 290 rubles (with a flight time of 000 hours per month) and 85 rubles (if the pilot’s schedule includes 340 or more hours of flight).
- Accountants and financial directors (up to 350 thousand rubles).
- Directors and top managers (200-250 thousand rubles and reach 1 million rubles).

I would go to teachers, who will teach me how to live on this increased salary and a prestigious position?

[Click]

Why is there no players .. he’s unlikely to tell ordinary people about their salaries

[Monster_Fat]

More cellists ..... earn a lot ...

[AlexVas44]

Quote: ROSS 42

They simply didn’t put those specialties there.

There are just state employees, though not all. Forgot about the Duma, ministers and the like. In general, the views of Putin and the people on the work of the government are diametrically opposed.

[Vladivostok1969]

I look at the comments and think, “But who did vote for the GDP in the elections?” The comments contradict the official results.

[mark1]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

I look at the comments and think, "But who did vote for the GDP in the elections?

I voted because I don’t see an alternative yet, but I would like that in evaluating the government’s activities, the GDP would honestly acknowledge the failures and draw the right conclusions.

[Gardamir]

but I would like that in evaluating the activities of the government, the GDP would honestly acknowledge the failures and draw the right conclusions.

and he concluded, you still do not see an alternative. Here are the conclusions.

[Bad_santa]

That's exactly what honest and smart can’t go upstairs. On the very first step in the career ladder, they will be faced with a choice _ either you are with us and you are doing as we are, or you will remain honest and will remain in this position until you are fired. And then we are surprised at how smart our children and wives of our officials are, that they are not a son, they are a born businessman, and since the age of 5 we have been working on our own without the help of our honest dad, how I managed to open my own business for a couple of billion. probably born already with suitcases of money, not dad gave them to him

[populist]

Vladivostok1969 (Sergey)
“But who voted for the GDP in the elections?” The comments contradict the official results.

The population is divided into two unequal parts: a small part - those who see real life and most - those who watch cartoons.

[mark1]

Quote: populist

The population is divided into two unequal parts: a small part - those who see real life and most - those who watch cartoons

Well, yes, according to your logic, there are "muddied" and "enlightened" and apparently the mission of the latter is to lead the former to "happiness!"

[BecmepH]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

I look at the comments and think, “But who did vote for the GDP in the elections?” The comments contradict the official results.

I read and think about the same thing.
For the sake of hooliganism, I marked myself ardent supporters of GDP before the elections ... They are silent for now ... Do not intercede)))

[Vladivostok1969]

Do you think they are gathering strength? Or are they being built in rows and columns?
I understand. Most of the opponents just woke up. They live to see up to 3 rings of the Moscow Ring Road. A little later they will take up the pen. In the meantime, “have fun”

[BecmepH]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

Do you think they are gathering strength? Or are they being built in rows and columns?
I understand. Most of the opponents just woke up. They live to see up to 3 rings of the Moscow Ring Road. A little later they will take up the pen. In the meantime, “have fun”

Or maybe it was the "healers"? I don’t observe many quite a while on the forum pages. One Golovan Jack of those frolics. But today is silent ...

[Vladivostok1969]

Do not be dashing while it is quiet

[basmach]

So they have nothing to say in this case. I have the same at work nearby.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: BecmepH

One Golovan Jack of those frolics. But today is silent ...

Golovan Jack asked you a question, by the way. I look forward to hearing how ... this ... well, I see.
And so - I have to work, there’s no time to drive crucian carp here. But I’ll periodically drop in, be sure ... don’t miss much

[basmach]

And you count. The turnout was about 70%, 78% voted. Those. slightly more than half eligible to vote. This, incidentally, is consistent with official data - 56 million of 100 million.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

Comments disagree with official results

It only means that commenters, for the most part, did not vote for GDP.
Called "unrepresentative sampling." Learn the words

[Dedall]

You still remember the "Gaussian distribution" and the "reliability criterion", and then conduct another factor analysis using the Box-Cox method. But seriously, it was we who voted, and I don’t believe a penny in official statistics.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vladivostok1969

I look at the comments and think, “But who did vote for the GDP in the elections?” The comments contradict the official results.

Today is Monday. Voted by those who work.
And here today, something like the sabbat of irreconcilable fighters “Z Regim and the malicious mastery” was outlined - they probably get a small amount of grants for food for this, and they are trying on the threshold of the inauguration. Their zeal is understandable, but pointless in view of the fact that all subsequent events will occur without their participation.

[Vladivostok1969]

It seems that you are upset when you read and comment on posts of opponents. Even you forget the Russian language.

the coven of irreconcilable wrestlers "Z Regim and malicious master" was outlined

.Mouthwort and valerian root to help you.

[mark1]

Too shy to ask - "... 25 million high-tech jobs ..."?

[Click]

Fear God even think about it

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: mark1

Too shy to ask - "... 25 million high-tech jobs ..."?

the comma, probably not after the sixth zero, but much earlier - I think the president had this in

[Vadim237]

"25 million high-tech jobs ..."? "Here the hitch comes out - where to get 25 million highly skilled workers, 500 maximum of them all over Russia - and even then they all work.

[Gardamir]

Too shy to ask - "... 25 million high-tech jobs ..."?

it is up to a comma.

[Mihail55]

Quote: mark1

Too shy to ask - "... 25 million high-tech jobs ..."?

Do not be shy ... and even ready to remove the "high-tech" !!! At least just jobs. At us pensioners who are no longer working as cobblestones fill up pits on the roads ... Are there few road workers? Or more fools?
Remain the same - STagnation guaranteed!

[Grandfather Makar]

The main economy is stable, in spite of all these sanctions and pressure from the West .. And the rest will break through!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ded-Makar

The main economy is stable ...

The patient's condition is stably severe ...

[nik-karata]

I am very happy for you that you have a stable economy !!!
Please tell me, in which country do you live?
With 100% certainty, I can say that this is not Russia!
Once again, very happy for you !!! and for your stable economy !!!

[Tomato]

Gold words! Do not rock the boat. Horses do not change at the crossing. Moreover, the river is already very wide, 18 years of crossing.

[Antares]

Quote: Tomatoes

Do not rock the boat. Horses do not change at the crossing.

rally everyone around the horses? Or rowers? (by the way, our deputies perceive the verb "row" incorrectly)
galley in the stormy sea.

[Morosh]

Quote: Ded-Makar

The main economy is stable, in spite of all these sanctions and pressure from the West .. And the rest will break through!

Burn, "political officer"!
By the way, I sent you a cash on delivery shovel for digging trenches.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Morosha

By the way, I sent you a cash on delivery shovel for digging trenches.

I have my own Soviet-made .. You can chop wood with a sapper!

[Morosh]

and why will you eat pancakes?

[BecmepH]

Quote: Ded-Makar

The main economy is stable, in spite of all these sanctions and pressure from the West .. And the rest will break through!

And how do you like it?

Almost half of Russia's population lives in conditions close to third world countries. So, according to the report submitted by Rosstat on social and economic development for the first quarter, only 8,5% of Russian citizens have a monthly income of over 60 thousand rubles,

Almost two-thirds (61%) live on an amount not exceeding 27 thousand rubles a month. 42,1% receive less than 19 thousand rubles, which is equivalent to the amount of 633 rubles, or $ 9,9 per day. Every fourth - 26,9% - has a monthly income below 15 thousand rubles, or $ 8 per day, and every seventh is below the official poverty line, receiving no more than 10 thousand rubles a month.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: BecmepH

Quote: Ded-Makar

The main economy is stable, in spite of all these sanctions and pressure from the West .. And the rest will break through!

And how do you like it?

Almost half of Russia's population lives in conditions close to third world countries. So, according to the report submitted by Rosstat on social and economic development for the first quarter, only 8,5% of Russian citizens have a monthly income of over 60 thousand rubles,

Almost two-thirds (61%) live on an amount not exceeding 27 thousand rubles a month. 42,1% receive less than 19 thousand rubles, which is equivalent to the amount of 633 rubles, or $ 9,9 per day. Every fourth - 26,9% - has a monthly income below 15 thousand rubles, or $ 8 per day, and every seventh is below the official poverty line, receiving no more than 10 thousand rubles a month.

Well, what are you whining ..? I have 11-12 thousand (although millions pass through me) I do not live richly, but I know that many people just need my work.! It’s not accustomed to steal and extort, and so many live in Russia ..

[BecmepH]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Well, what are you whining ..?

And this one there))) No arguments, they begin to insult.
Am I whining, my dear? I did not even discuss your comment. Just showed you the official data, so you think a little.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: BecmepH

And this one there))) No arguments, they begin to insult.

And your main argument told you .. I am in your rogue ..?

Quote: BecmepH

Am I whining, my dear? I did not even discuss your comment. Just showed you the official data, so you think a little.

I’m not the “dearest” to you so communicate with the geyropa ..
Your official data, I have long been known from your manuals .. So you do not need to anger me.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: BecmepH

And this one there))) No arguments, they begin to insult.

And your main argument told you .. I am in your rogue ..?

Quote: BecmepH

Am I whining, my dear? I did not even discuss your comment. Just showed you the official data, so you think a little.

I’m not the “dearest” to you so communicate with the geyropa ..
Your official data, I have long been known from your manuals .. So you do not need to anger me.

You are stupid and touchy. Years have not gone to you for the future. Wisdom you have not accumulated. I consider a dialogue with you a waste of time

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: BecmepH

You are stupid and touchy. Years have not gone to you for the future. Wisdom you have not accumulated. I consider a dialogue with you a waste of time

You insulted me .. This is first! Secondly, you do not know the real life in Russia ..
I feel sorry for you, with your facts, etc. Such are now in all the media aching and tearing "loot" out of thin air .. They would apologize for the insult. All the money that you “raise” there is earned in the provinces of Russia and “beggar” is HONOR and CONSCIENCE. Countries that we almost lost thanks to you balabol and parasites in large cities! That's it ..

[BecmepH]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: BecmepH

You are stupid and touchy. Years have not gone to you for the future. Wisdom you have not accumulated. I consider a dialogue with you a waste of time

You insulted me .. This is first! Secondly, you do not know the real life in Russia ..
I feel sorry for you, with your facts, etc. Such are now in all the media aching and tearing "loot" out of thin air .. They would apologize for the insult. All the money that you “raise” there is earned in the provinces of Russia and “beggar” is HONOR and CONSCIENCE. Countries that we almost lost thanks to you balabol and parasites in large cities! That's it ..

I offended you?))) You read your posts. How much you poured on me for no reason ... I served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and was where Makar did not drive calves. And you are content with your 10-11 tyr. and rejoice. Typical slave behavior. Till

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: BecmepH

. Typical slave behavior. Till

Here peasants read these demons .. "Newly-appeared gentlemen" in Russia! A kind of elite who knows how to "raise the loot" .. Again, you need to sharpen the pitchfork, raised the heads of the bargain "buy-sell"! And they humiliate them without hesitation.
Nothing is written, then I will look into your eyes ..

[BecmepH]

Quote: Ded-Makar

Quote: BecmepH

. Typical slave behavior. Till

Here peasants read these demons .. "Newly-appeared gentlemen" in Russia! A kind of elite who knows how to "raise the loot" .. Again, you need to sharpen the pitchfork, raised the heads of the bargain "buy-sell"! And they humiliate them without hesitation.
Nothing is written, then I will look into your eyes ..

You are also helpless))) Without men in any way? You are also envious and embittered. I am retired military and work. I’m doing physical work. All your whining from helplessness. Be angry with yourself and be content with what the state has given you (pension 10-10 tyr.) If this pension pleases you and suits you, then I am sincerely happy for you.
Go sharpen the pitchfork. Although, with 100% certainty I will say that you are a typical instigator. But we are no longer being fooled by this.
Let's continue to grumble and call for help men)))

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: BecmepH

I am retired military and work. I’m doing physical work.

And all of you are few, there are a lot of such whiners here on the site ..)))

Quote: BecmepH

Go sharpen the pitchfork. Although, with 100% certainty I will say that you are a typical instigator. But we are no longer being fooled by this.

These are both the Army and the Fleet that they ruined by nagging and almost ruined the Country ... They all ran, they sought the next benefits and payments .. Damn it!
I’ve seen such people and ran many medals at rallies ...

Quote: BecmepH

Let's continue to grumble and call for help men)))

They themselves will come when the time comes!

[impostor]

Well, what are you whining ..? I have 11-12 thousand

Baku? Then yes, as with Musagaliyev - well x .. you are aching, huh?

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: impostor

Baku?

Russian rubles !!! UNDERSTAND 10 thousand a month .. And I am not NOA! And I'm doing my job honestly!
And I do not aspire to Moscow ..

[impostor]

From the bottom of my heart, plus a fellow sufferer of misfortune, consisting in honest work on the thieves, appropriating the results of many years of hard labor of Soviet people! I would put a second plus, but this is not possible according to the rules of the forum

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: BecmepH

And how do you like it?

I don’t know how to whom, but to me it’s like this:
- Rosstat data do not include "self-employed"
- Rosstat data "do not see" (and cannot see) gray-black salaries
- In addition, as I understand it, the average per capita income is given (taking into account the dependents), which, of course, is always somewhat less than real.
For some reason, it seems to me that you are using official data ... somewhat biased, I would say. Question - for what purpose are you doing this?

[BecmepH]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: BecmepH

And how do you like it?

I don’t know how to whom, but to me it’s like this:
- Rosstat data do not include "self-employed"
- Rosstat data "do not see" (and cannot see) gray-black salaries
- In addition, as I understand it, the average per capita income is given (taking into account the dependents), which, of course, is always somewhat less than real.
For some reason, it seems to me that you are using official data ... somewhat biased, I would say. Question - for what purpose are you doing this?

All right write.
.

- Rosstat data "do not see" (and cannot see) gray-black salaries

And this is true. Only everyone around knows about these gray-black ones, but they do nothing. So this suits the rulers?

For some reason, it seems to me that you are using official data ... somewhat biased, I would say. Question - for what purpose are you doing this?

Yes, in general, without malicious intent. I just decided that it would make Grandpa think a little. But ... wrong. Grandpa screamer and brawler)))
Dear Golovan Jack, when you communicate without a sense of superiority, it’s nice to have a dialogue with you. And, I would even say, personally, I have something to learn from you. Although I am older than you.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: BecmepH

everyone around knows about these gray-black, but do nothing

This is not true. I had to work in such companies. When a salary is issued behind a closed door (the door is guarded by a serious guard), and very, very stealthily.
They are afraid, but, nevertheless, nevertheless pay "in advance". It is beneficial, very beneficial.
And it's hard to catch them. Although they try, and even sometimes catch.

Quote: BecmepH

Yes, in general, without malice

Ok, then - the dry residue: the data you provide deliberately underestimate the real incomes of the population.
I have not in vain mentioned the self-employed - I personally know a couple of these. They make repairs (not bad, by the way), they get paid in cash. not registered anywhere. So that they have less than thirty a month, I don’t remember this. More - yes, it happens, and often.
In the official statistics you cited, these people are beggars

[Nehist]

Dear Golovan Jack! You sometimes also operate with official data on the growth of the economy and production, which, judging by your statement above, also do not correspond to reality, then they turn out to be very high

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Nehist

You sometimes also operate with official data on the growth of the economy and production, which, judging by your statement above, also do not correspond to reality, then they turn out to be very high

I justified my "understated" ones.
Try to justify your "overpriced." And better not try - it still won’t work. For example, I would not undertake to do this.

[Mihail55]

Quote: Ded-Makar

The main economy is stable, in spite of all these sanctions and pressure from the West .. And the rest will break through!

Unlike the 70s, the concept of ECONOMY has greatly faded. The military-industrial complex is just a part of the economy and it is very sad. And are we now ruled by "servants of the people"?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Michael55

Unlike the 70s, the concept of ECONOMY has greatly faded.

This concept does not exist in Russia, because it is impossible to "choke" on what has long been "shortened." What can we talk about if the growth of "this" is below the level !!! annual inflation?
The economy is when they make money and invest it in the development of production and social programs. And when they do requisitions in the form of increasing the diversity and size of taxation, this is just looting. And, "don’t tell my horseshoes," the conversation about the single-piece production of military equipment and weapons significantly indicates the actual state of affairs in the military-industrial complex. You cannot beat out anything else. It's time to look into their pockets and clean the bins of friends who have joined the government. By the way !!! All of them can be seen today in Moscow, at 16.00 in the Kremlin ...
Raise the glasses and be happy for them!

[Vadim237]

"The economy is when they make money and invest it in the development of production and social programs." In Russia, and so on, social spending from the budget is allocated 5 trillion rubles a year, and the production structure is long paid back, you do not have to expect quick profits from it.

[Vard]

A joke of stagnation ... a voice from the audience ... why are we going to communism, but there’s nothing to eat in the shops? The answer ... and who said that they will feed on the road ... I got sick a year ago and if they had not put me in the hospital ... I would simply have died of hunger ... The allowance when people are not paid sick leave, and disability pension managed to draw up after three months ... these are the pies ... wrote a letter to the president ... no answer ... no greetings ...

[Bad_santa]

Imagine people who spend all their money on food and leave a little money on clothes for Putin. They fooled people. Hooked on hypothetical victories in foreign policy. They watch TV and are proud of how strong they are and will soon defeat everyone, and when the political talk show ends, they go to an empty refrigerator ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Imagine people who spend all their money on food and leave a little money on clothes for Putin. They fooled people. Hooked on hypothetical victories in foreign policy.

the whole paradox is that many of them are for Putin, but against Medvedev and the oligarchs. And until people stop believing in these tales about a good king and bad boyars, nothing will change

[gaura]

Santa, as soon as conversations about hunger in the country begin, I always want to ask, where are these people? All I see around is that there are more and more cars, and then they are no longer cars, but some kind of buses for people, more and more cool; cottage villages under each city are only growing; New iPhones and Samsung are bought. So who has nothing to eat? I don’t see growth in the economy either, but I need to tell more plausibly about hunger in the country.

[Bad_santa]

You do not look only at the neighbors. Always compare with something. Germany is an occupied country, without significant resources, with a completely destroyed economy after WWII and lives better than we do 7-10 times. You do not look if the economy shows growth of 0,00000002%, but compare the growth rates in other countries and take into account the starting positions. The same China in all respects should have slowed down its growth, but it shows much better results. So in the economic race, compared with other countries, we are not growing, but lagging. Moreover, every year now lost by the execution of the "May decrees", it comes back to us for a decade to catch up with the leaders in the future. It's time not to do blah blah blah, but really solve problems

[Bad_santa]

And to those who are grateful to him before the grave for saving the country from starvation after the EBN, I advise you to see the graphs of rising oil prices and the economic growth graph. One to one match

[gaura]

Santa, do not here about Germany or China, they were not originally in this thread. There was a topic about the hungry here in Russia. Why are you jumping?

[Bad_santa]

If the goal for you is to reduce the number of hungry people, then do not compare Russia with the advanced countries of the world. Compare with Gabon or Somalia. It will be a reward for me if Russia, in terms of living standards, is at a level and higher than European countries, there will be a strong army and navy, they will be equal to Russia when innovations for life appear in our country, and not in the West. And you rejoice that everyone is full and do not ask for more. As the saying goes, if you want to know the price of a person, ask him what he wants

[gaura]

Santa, you jumped down again. Well, here's how to argue with people on the Internet if they say one thing first, then another. I want you, as an opponent, to tell the truth, rather than shouting about "fucking polymers." Favorite topic in Russia - people have nothing to eat. And I see around that the people will pour any millions on iPhones, a beach in Turkey, etc. The whole country is ready to tear wood, oil, gas in the name of a new iPhone or Merc. What does innovation have to do with it? There are innovations in Russia; they have not touched your life, not Putin’s fault. For example, they launched the Mir system. No need to tell me that she is bad. I say that it was launched, people worked and did. Glonass is the same, I do not know other GPRS analogues in everything.
And if you initially wanted to compare life here with something there, you had to write it in the first place. And do not write about how people are starving, and then fall into hysteria, after an ordinary example from life.
PS and we have a weak army and navy?

[Vadim237]

Germany is an occupied country, without significant resources, with a completely destroyed economy after WWII and lives better than we do 7-10 times. Well, probably because Germany - Germany developed very actively in terms of industry, in a market economy, earned money by creating new technologies, and did not feed half the world with its industry, for thanks and did not put its civilian designs like the USSR on the shelves of oblivion - 40 years .

[Vadim237]

People with head and hands will never stay hungry.

[Denis Obukhov]

Putin called the work of the government worthy. "(C)
"Putin noted that the main activity of the Cabinet was aimed at implementing the May decrees." (with)
"Putin pointed to the" general sustainability "of the Russian economy ..." (c)

Well, what do you say here? Besides the fact that we still have a worthy president and a worthy prime minister. Probably, in the very near future, a decent life awaits the population of the country.

[Vladivostok1969]

You can’t say anything. Each nation deserves its own government. We chose it ourselves and live with them.

[Mihail55]

Quote: ROSS 42

This concept does not exist in Russia, because it is impossible to "choke" on what has long been "shortened." What can we talk about if the growth of "this" is below the level !!! annual inflation?

I apologize for using Aesopian language ... I fully agree with you !!!

[impostor]

If the office does not change, then all the sad trends will continue. And the oligarchs as "was not" and "will not be", and social justice will remain in its former understanding of the ruling bourgeois class. Well, the left front will grow stronger. Very “joyful” changes await us. Cossacks with whips at public meetings have already appeared.

[Monster_Fat]

Very “joyful” changes await us. Cossacks with whips at public meetings have already appeared.

Just now, one activist here, suggested that I ram up the ramrods on Red Square ...

[Antares]

Quote: Monster_Fat

Very “joyful” changes await us. Cossacks with whips at public meetings have already appeared.

Just now, one activist here, suggested that I ram up the ramrods on Red Square ...

well, the tradition of Cossacks with nudges at national meetings is quite old, now it’s in fashion, but it’s the famous Nikolaev ramrods.
A couple of thousand and did not offer you a Siberia ticket ?

[slavaseven]

A familiar doctor with 30 years of experience constantly complains about a mess in the healthcare system. By the way, she began to receive less - they reduced hospital beds in the hospital. At the same time, prices for everything became Olympians - faster, higher, stronger.

[Dedall]

Respected slavaseven (Vyacheslav), I added to your “note about our boy” that the increase in salaries for doctors was completely fake. That is, they stopped paying for medical experience, reduced the “nightly” rates by 2 times and removed the “quick help” for the XNUMX-hour reception.
As for the "ambulance" itself, then for a long time there are no "wheeled" ones. In addition, there are also cleverly disguised ways of not raising salaries. For example, “experts” come from lotions to the Compulsory Health Insurance Fund and impose fines on the establishment of a witch's ravine.
For example, a fine for the lack of an X-ray of the patient’s lungs on the day of hospitalization, but it was on Sunday and our hospital’s X-ray room only works on weekdays until 12 noon. Or because biochemical analyzes were not taken on the day of hospitalization, despite the fact that they are done in Rostov on the basis of the Regional Medical Diagnostic Center. Moreover, fines are not imposed on doctors, but on the institution, because the fine on the doctor personally requires compliance with the Administrative Code. But then the accounting department anyway reduces the salary, withholding money from doctors.
And if we take our Novocherkassk, the head of our administration said that with these increases, they would lag behind him due to lack of money in the budget. So our Guarantor spoils with terrible force about some implementation of his empty Empty Decrees. And I do not believe that he does not know that beyond the Moscow Ring Road they could not be completed.

[Tomato]

But Putin himself fulfilled at least one promise? Let's remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugWPHKr6JE

[Vadim237]

He promised to double the GDP; the promise was fulfilled - in 2000, 7 trillion rubles, in 2017 - 92 trillion and the poor 45 million and 20 million, respectively.

[Vladivostok1969]

He promised to double the GDP; the promise was fulfilled - in 2000, 7 trillion rubles, in 2017 - 92 trillion and the poor 45 million and 20 million, respectively.

And how many times increased the Russian Forbes list can also voice?

[Vadim237]

And to you, what is on this list - in Russia there are now 7 million millionaires and 214 billionaires - rubles.

[Antares]

259,7 billion USD (2000)
1 527,47
(billion US dollars)
in 2017
that's just the distribution of income is uneven. Although in fat years, almost everyone was missing.

[Vadim237]

"The distribution of income is uneven." Sorry, but those who do not work or work on the hell will not normally earn money. Who studied what he earns.

[Vladivostok1969]

"The distribution of income is uneven." Sorry, but those who do not work or work on the hell will not normally earn money. Who studied what he earns.

So you think that only Prokhorov and Abramovich work for us in the country. And you probably also. And the rest are stupid and miserable, and deserve only what they have. Or maybe they don't deserve it. You are sick.

[Vadim237]

"And the rest are stupid and miserable, and deserve, only what they have. Or maybe they do not deserve it. You are sick." - You do not need to ascribe your distorted thoughts to me. Dumb and wretched makes himself, man himself.

[Tomato]

1. Was the ruble exchange rate stable? Didn't crash 2 times?
2. The World Bank gives slightly different numbers.
3. in 2000, oil was worth $ 35

[Vadim237]

And inflation in the 2000th was 21%, now it is 2,5%, oil is $ 75 and the exchange rate is 62 rubles per dollar - but noticeably there weren’t such multi-trillion programs as the rearmament of the army and so on.

[rocket757]

You can call the topic "slippery" but rather it will be sad!
Hurray-patriots do not like to be sad, and present only what could be worse and we still do not Gabon, it does not cause much fun.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: rocket757

Hurray-patriots do not like to be sad, and present only what could be worse and we still do not Gabon, it does not cause much fun.

But if you give the liberals the freedom to give them such a howl in the 90s that they even shoot and hang themselves (many real patriots did just that from the horror that was happening in the country) Thank God, they came to their senses and managed to save something ..

[Gradus HuK]

For your loved ones.

[Vadim237]

It’s just that Russia is full of people who believe that their best life is the state will do for them.

[Old Horseradish]

And why did the state make a better life for the modest oligarchs and eternal friends.

[Vadim237]

In place of these guys could be anyone who was in the subject, but they turned out to be smarter, trickier and faster, this is why the authorities and the Boble.

[rocket757]

Why offend that to the liberal attributed ... and why actually?
Because not a patriot cheers? And what else doesn’t happen?
If the URA of our government does not yell, then not patriots at all?
It’s not possible to embrace sales even if a person doesn’t understand, besides power there is also a MOTHERLAND, PEOPLE and so on, which is much more important for any normal person!

[Old Horseradish]

Previously, there was a slogan all the best for children. Now all the best OLIGARHAT.

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Old Horseradish

Previously, there was a slogan all the best for children. Now all the best OLIGARHAT.

Well, yes, in the media this is constantly hammered by our youth ....! But many people don’t know how to grow bread and all kinds of sausages ... It’s very hard work, if the present is to produce everything, and not the chemical, that we are cheating on the West for cheap (so far), ruining our collective farms and farms .. I live in the region, where top-grade wheat is produced, but has not eaten real bread for a long time .. "Moscow", etc. It does not grow stale for years and only begins to crumble, but I am silent about meat generally .. You can only buy more or less at the market .. This is called "deposition prices," and then occupation will begin.

[Vadim237]

The West no longer drives anything from the agricultural sector - it’s expensive and expensive, and collective farms and farms go bankrupt because they do not withstand competition with agricultural holdings - but this is not everywhere.

[flicker]

According to the head of state, "an increase in the authority and prestige of the work of the teacher, doctor ...

And here is the data of the Federal State Statistics Service "In federal medical institutions, the average salary was 48 rubles, in medical institutions of constituent entities of the Federation - 838, in municipal - 49 rubles."
Based on these data, the “increase of authority and prestige of the doctor’s work” follows. And according to doctors, they get from 10000 to 18000 rubles a month, and the average salary is 48000 rubles. Is someone lying? No, they don’t lie: just the salary of an ordinary doctor and the salary of the chief physician and medical officer are heaven and earth. Etozh how many chief doctors, but all sorts of officials from medicine get, if the doctors are 15000, and the average salary is 48000?

[Dedall]

To your question flicker (Nikolai), I can answer that the chief doctor of the regional hospital - 800 thousand, the regional minister of health - 1 million. Even our head doctor in the hospital, which consists of a clinic and a department for 80 beds, as he does not conspire - 120 thousand. And since 2017 in official statistics earnings of paid institutions and private practitioners are included. 9 thousand are coming into my hands. So make a conclusion about why 12 doctors work instead of 4 district doctors in the clinic.

[flicker]

Well, the situation in healthcare is such that it requires no longer therapeutic measures, but surgical ones - and urgently.

[Gardamir]

I recently found a good article. The essence of it. In 1917, two BoHata people and those who dreamed of justice lived in the vastness of Russia. And BoSaty really did not want to share with the people. A hundred years have passed. Bohaty became more cunning. Look, the current government is exploiting all the slogans from the USSR. There is no union, there is no justice, but we still owe, supposedly to the state, only what kind of state is this with cellos and houses for ducks?
And it’s time to already understand that the big ones will not be divided, not for this they banged the Union in order to restore social justice. BoHaty understand this all, but people believe in fairy tales about yards clogged with cars.

[cedar]

Physical education greetings to the guard-prowlers from cheers-patriots ...
Your universal heaven is heard crying, but the leaky scaffold "Erefiya" on which you endure the stormworm is not going to save.
On the way rescuer "Russia". It’s time to end the unipolar NEP, from which it’s not fun for us and it’s not sweet for you, but only the banks of Rothschild and Rockefeller are good.
Look at both, dear ...

[rocket757]

It’s interesting, on which yachts and in which seas do our fat belts crash?
This sales is not a request for social justice, cannot it be under the current system, capitalism however, just for the normal existence of an impoverished people, a question that wants to work in their country and for the good of it and live normally?

[vladimirvn]

Liked it here on the site earlier. "The states are a great power, but we have the best leader!"

[rocket757]

The leader, the supreme in this system, is not the main thing .... the main thing is the SAMA SYSTEM, the system in which we live. Any leader is embedded in the system, becoming part of it.
There was a period of completely wild capitalism, the accumulation of primary capital, consider the looting of the country, was resp. Boris the amateur will stop. Now, for the most part, everything is divided, a more stable period, some rules apply .... what period will be next ??? And who knows, we have a special way, its nuclei through the rocker!

[Nehist]

You are absolutely right! At one time, the system of autocratic Russia was rotten, then the USSR suffered the same disaster, but now this is happening with the Russian Federation

[rocket757]

The time has come, circumstances have turned out like this, all kinds of guardians have contributed .... it doesn’t matter, events are developing cyclically, as many scientists say!
Our stage is this, we move from wild capitalism to .... but where we get, it’s not entirely clear. We are late with changes and some stages passed by others as expected, according to science, we can slip through! It happens.
Let's see what the "father is dear", the system has prepared for us.
All the same, all of humanity is moving, developing along a certain path. And if we don’t do something completely awkward with our world on the way, we will come to a more perfect society .... no matter how it is called. It is a pity that this can be very later.

[Vadim237]

This will not happen with Russia, as we have been in a market economy for 27 years, there are plenty of opportunities for self-realization, everything depends on money, desire and ability.

[rocket757]

There are some non-limiters, no, braking / disturbing moments!
For people with commercial acumen, talented, etc. There are opportunities and limitations. This is not a secret, you can easily find out about this!
I will not go deeper, otherwise it will turn out, the reason Schaub was looking for nothing to do. Let’s say one thing: in the West, the business system has long been formed and the rules, then the laws did not immediately become like that! The periods of wild development, too, have been considered. Males have not yet departed from our Soviet past, have plunged into wild capitalism and civilized relations so far only in declarations, in fact! So anyone who manages to develop their business without special starting support \ situation, a hero or a bandit !!! In our situation, finally all kinds of hybrids arise!

[Grandfather Makar]

Quote: Vadim237

This will not happen with Russia, as we have been in a market economy for 27 years, there are plenty of opportunities for self-realization, everything depends on money, desire and ability.

Oh well, let's try ..? We saw such people in cemeteries .. And how many people just rot in the forest plantations?
Business must be honest! And just gangsterism ..

[rocket757]

A gun and a soldering iron still do not appear so often, now a bunch of "legitimate" methods of weaning a business have a place to be.
Well, I’m saying either a bandit or a hero.

[Vadim237]

For me and for acquaintances, the business works without problems - neither heroes nor bandits.

[rocket757]

It happens, too, I know such lucky ones ... meloten, not interesting to anyone! There are opposite examples of identity, however, now there is no more, as well as their business.
Anything can happen!

[Dedall]

And you will not be the case among the political leaders? Those, too, when they climbed into the swamp with the whole company, could say something like: "But there will be an occasion to go to the bathhouse."

[Serg65]

Vladivostok1969,
My memory, my dear friend, is normal!
Much has been put in this memory, both good and bad. But it was a long time ago and this cannot be returned! NOT LIKE! We live now and here! Living in the past you cannot build the future!