Do you think that fools live around? The reaction of the director of "Sobibor" to a question from the audience

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The web is actively discussing the reaction of Konstantin Khabensky to a question asked after the premiere of his film “Sobibor” in St. Petersburg. In just a few days, the video managed to get almost 900 thousand views on YouTube.

The woman in the hall asked Konstantin Khabensky about whether this film could be understood by the “unprepared public” - the one that comes to the cinema with coca-cola and popcorn. The question is, in fact, highly topical, only it was filed somewhat in a dubious perspective, which caused the director more than an emotional reaction.



Do you think that fools live around? The reaction of the director of "Sobibor" to a question from the audience


Khabensky considered that the spectator who asked the question, who turned out to be a journalist, believes that “stupid people” live, as he puts it, around her. In this case, the director tried to get from her the answer to the question of what exactly she cares about. The woman tried to explain herself, stating that she did not mean at all that “stupid people” would come to watch the film. But the dialogue is clearly not set. Khabensky went to the monologue:
Dear friends, let's comb our generation and let's comb our cinema into very clear things. We have to create a runway. I can't even call it another way history. We are so afraid of everything, we love Hollywood so much, we love so much the devil knows what. Let's think about the generation that we grow, let's talk about who we communicate with, what we communicate with, and who will take care of us after a while.


In fact (with a clearer formulation of the question) the dialogue could be more productive. After all, indeed, there is an impressive army of spectators, which goes to cinemas not to experience films (if such appear), but just to rest. And this is quite normal. Therefore, the task of the same “Sobibor” is to make it clear to the audience that there are things in this world that will force them to remove popcorn and really think about it.

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  1. +29
    7 May 2018 06: 53
    A woman with popocorn and cola was ... if she could not formulate the question otherwise! fool
    1. +43
      7 May 2018 07: 03
      The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...
      1. +18
        7 May 2018 07: 14
        Quote: ROSS 42
        The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...

        if the film is really interesting, no one will slurp popcorn into the entire room. and if the film is ovno - even without popcorn, the people will either leave, or laugh at its stupidity, or play on phones, etc.
        1. +5
          7 May 2018 08: 30
          Prices for movie tickets in themselves suggest additional fun when watching. winked
          1. +5
            7 May 2018 11: 59
            And the goal of cinema itself is entertainment, from the very beginning of cinema, people go there to have fun. And the fact that intellectual entertainment is not in fashion is not the fault of the movie, but rather a consequence of general intellectual degradation.
            1. +7
              7 May 2018 15: 20
              They go to the cinema with buckets of popcorn, regardless of the film, not because they are hungry and really want to eat. Such a “culture” was instilled into our viewers according to the “Western traditions” of hucksters who want to get their income from absolutely everything. It’s good, at least, so far, they haven’t been able to see children killing and butchering animals (like the Marius giraffe in the Copenhagen Zoo). It is enough to forbid to enter the hall with food and drinks. They don’t go with beer and other alcohol, and they don’t try to smoke.
        2. +11
          7 May 2018 08: 58
          Quote: K0
          if the movie is really interesting, no one will slurp popcorn into the entire room

          unfortunately will
          1. +4
            7 May 2018 11: 50
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            unfortunately will

            separate downs are everywhere. the last thing I went for was 28 Panfilovites, there were ordinary people, including popcorn, chipasmi and others. but it was so interesting that everyone watched a movie, not ate.
            1. +6
              7 May 2018 13: 14
              Quote: K0
              including popcorn, chips and more. but it was so interesting that everyone watched a movie, not ate.

              should not "eat" not because it’s interesting, but because you can’t do this in the THEATER
              1. 0
                8 May 2018 05: 27
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                should not "eat" not because it’s interesting, but because you can’t do this in the THEATER

                in the THEATER no one does. The CINEMA is now different from the THEATER (including the content and quality of the proposed performance), like an elephant from a crocodile.
                1. +2
                  8 May 2018 06: 31
                  Quote: K0
                  in THEATER nobody does

                  I often go to theaters. I love exactly the variety of the game actors. But honestly, do you really believe that the theater today is the same as 20-40 years ago?
                  Yes, popcorn is not eating. I agree. But look at the audience. Most come to the theater exactly as we once went to the cinema. Watch the movie. Jeans, T-shirts, free style. This is no longer a temple.
                  But on the other hand, in the temple, the actresses do not shake their naked boobs. And do not talk about the bardels with all the details. What, alas, today in our theaters in abundance. The viewer needs something to attract.
                  Time is changing. People are changing. Life itself is changing. And fast enough.
                  Re-educate a businessman whose task is to earn? Rehabilitate the consumer? And that's exactly what the audience is called today.
                  Just yesterday I watched "Coach". The film is quite high quality. For all tastes. And for the nerve takes. Someone on the stages of the game, someone on the scenes of love or support the coach in a difficult moment.
                  But the popcorn still ate. Cried, but ate. "Root" for the team, but they ate! Moreover, popcorn in the cinema has become an almost indispensable part of watching. It does not depend on the film itself. This is a conditioned reflex, which our distributors have developed in the viewer.
                2. 0
                  8 May 2018 08: 06
                  Quote: K0
                  in the THEATER no one does. The CINEMA is now different from the THEATER (including the content and quality of the proposed performance), like an elephant from a crocodile.

                  Are you talking about drug addict Juliet or about Hamlet in a leather jacket?
                  in your thinking, the main problem, the play considers, the film is not worthy, why did you go, and if you go then you see yourself Worthy
                  we WE do it THEATER THEATER - TEMPLE of Art, not a tavern or a barn
                  1. +1
                    8 May 2018 09: 00
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    in your thinking, the main problem, the play considers, the film is not worthy, why did you go, and if you go then you see yourself Worthy

                    excuse me, I don’t think the cinema hall is a temple of anything for a long time. you go to see a good (sort of) movie, and you get into a fierce ... like a viking. this is not shown in temples.
                    1. 0
                      8 May 2018 12: 00
                      Quote: K0
                      this is not shown in temples.

                      don’t go like that, but if you come, YOU PERSONALLY, behave like in the Temple, and do not become like cattle
          2. +1
            7 May 2018 17: 48
            They will cry and ... Slurp
        3. +2
          7 May 2018 09: 57
          Quote: K0
          Quote: ROSS 42
          The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...

          if the film is really interesting, no one will slurp popcorn into the entire room. and if the film is ovno - even without popcorn, the people will either leave, or laugh at its stupidity, or play on phones, etc.

          With language removed.
      2. +45
        7 May 2018 07: 15
        Soviet films were about people, so they are still interesting and enjoy the love of the people. But Russian cinema is an attempt to be in trend, cut dough, incompetence and outright lies with a few exceptions.
        1. +19
          7 May 2018 07: 51
          By the way, yes. By the way, I’ve been watching Soviet cinema for the second month, and it’s interesting and touching, and it became so curious how much I haven’t seen a suitable movie from those times!
          And from the Hollywood slag just nauseous already .....

          In general, I don’t know what all the boron cheese with Khabensky and aunts are about, but I’ll try to see.
          1. +5
            7 May 2018 08: 39
            Duck is understandable, cinema reflects the ideology of the country, gives an answer to the questions of who we are, where and why we are going. gave the Soviet, gives our present, impressions can be compared.
          2. +10
            7 May 2018 09: 24
            Quote: DEZINTO
            And from Hollywood slag it’s just nauseating already ...
            -Do you think in Soviet times there was no slag? Yes, the shaft was ..
            How many can you remember now good Soviet films (without the Internet)? Not even good, just Soviet films? a hundred maximum!
            and they produced other years up to 200 pieces per year ...
            About the right hard worker / master - who is opposed by a stagnant (or even stupid!) Director-bureaucrat, about how to increase milk yield, etc. etc. - and there were such breakthrough stamps.
            That's when it turned out to shoot about PEOPLE - then it turned out an excellent Soviet film, a classic. Here you believe in a person in the "Communist" or "Officers"
            1. +5
              7 May 2018 10: 11
              Quote: your1970
              about how to increase milk yield

              But you need to increase the milk yield!
            2. +4
              7 May 2018 11: 46
              Quote: your1970
              About the right hard worker / master - who is opposed by an inert (or even stupid!) Director-bureaucrat, about how to increase milk yield, etc. etc. - and there were such breakthrough stamps

              You remember the film “Prize” with Leonov in the leading role - how the team refused to receive the prize according to the results of the plan adjusted downward. There aren’t any bureaucrats there at all - the struggle between excellent and good! bully hi
            3. 0
              8 May 2018 10: 19
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: DEZINTO
              And from Hollywood slag it’s just nauseating already ...
              -Do you think in Soviet times there was no slag? Yes, the shaft was ..
              How many can you remember now good Soviet films (without the Internet)? Not even good, just Soviet films? a hundred maximum!
              and they produced other years up to 200 pieces per year ...
              About the right hard worker / master - who is opposed by a stagnant (or even stupid!) Director-bureaucrat, about how to increase milk yield, etc. etc. - and there were such breakthrough stamps.
              That's when it turned out to shoot about PEOPLE - then it turned out an excellent Soviet film, a classic. Here you believe in a person in the "Communist" or "Officers"

              I completely agree! By the way, now they are making great films, which are far from Soviet. From the memory, "In that country," the truth is 97
              1. 0
                8 May 2018 11: 16
                I liked the “Territory”, the old “Cold Summer 1953” (there was a familiar old district policeman from Arkhangelsk - he said - that's how it was, word for word), and also “Hare over the abyss” and “Passport” - it seems to be comedic, but at the same time very touching for the living
      3. +3
        7 May 2018 07: 21
        Well, it seems like there are already such ones on the stage and in the theater. They are so * innovative * proud. Only one unconquered summit of creativity remained. In Byzantium there was a theater * Parnay * one of whose actresses became empress and part-time head of the church, together with her husband, the then emperor.
        So far, only timid attempts have been made to create such a theater, with the appropriate action, crying out for * freedom of creativity * and demands for state maintenance of both theaters and actors and those who are wiping nearby.
      4. +11
        7 May 2018 13: 35
        I also want to add a little bit about modern Russian cinema. The last movie I watched was Tanks. My first impression is white: "What a deb ... l could take such a goof off." In general, I do not understand the meaning of such productions, for which and, most importantly, for whom is it all being filmed. Fortunately, history has provided us with the opportunity to compare in this situation. There was such a Soviet film with the same plot, it was called only in a different way - "Chief Designer". By the way, I would many of those who did not see the old film, would advise him to watch, just for comparison. I sometimes get the impression that a product such as modern cinema about the Soviet era is specifically filmed in order to pervert, denigrate, in the end, just ridicule and put our Soviet past on fun. That is, all this is done not just out of stupidity or from the nearness of mind, but quite the contrary purposefully and thought out. The goal in this case is only one, to erase from memory and people all the good that was in the Soviet Union, to belittle and belittle all the achievements of the Soviet Union, Soviet science, Soviet culture. If you wish, you can find answers to other questions, such as, for example, what ideology should modern cinema bring to the masses, who defines this ideology, who makes such films and who finances such productions. Look at the root, people who have not forgotten how to think and analyze, as Kozma Prutkov once said.
      5. +1
        8 May 2018 10: 15
        In vain you are so, now there are a lot of great films! once thought that they shot real cinema somewhere before the year 68 and tried to revise these films. Sometimes I looked up to perestroika, then discreetly discovered in and in that series of chernushny films a lot of worthy work came out. And now I was surprised to find that even now good films are being shot, and some I can’t even put together with a lot of Soviet films. If you want, I can list from the last viewed and left a good finish. For example, "Territory", if the Soviet film was just a production drama, then the current one is awesome romance!
    2. +5
      7 May 2018 07: 17
      Quote: Click
      A woman with popocorn and cola was ... if she could not formulate the question otherwise! fool

      And you thought that "fools" live in St. Petersburg? .... Ordinary people see this "sobibor" every day, working hard at the country, and someone makes a name and money for themselves. So the journalist had in mind cola and popcorn as fame and money, a smart lady came across a newly minted director .... Yes
      1. +6
        7 May 2018 07: 25
        I did not write a word about people in St. Petersburg! stop the journalist had in mind the generation of TS NEXT ie Ivanov not remembering kinship .... Yes
        1. +9
          7 May 2018 10: 26
          Quote: Click
          I did not write a word about people in St. Petersburg! stop the journalist had in mind the generation of TS NEXT ie Ivanov not remembering kinship .... Yes


          Young boys of this generation stood to death in Tskhinval of 2008, so not all is lost. Yes, there is a layer of future "effective managers", such films will definitely not suit them. But still, Russian people (including young people) are not fools at all.
      2. +16
        7 May 2018 07: 44
        "- Thirty years ago, the escape from Sobibor was already filmed in Hollywood. Is your film very different?

        - The Hollywood Sobibor is another movie, more action and detective. Our producers are more impudent. They gave me 100 percent carte blanche. We repelled ourselves from the experiences and destinies of people; we set up murder scenes only where we could not do without them. Our Sobibor is not a popcorn story. This does not mean that you cannot sell popcorn at the entrance to the hall. But if in the tenth minute the crunch is over, then people are involved in what is happening on the screen. "
        https://www.vologda.kp.ru/daily/26824.3/3860202/
        1. +10
          7 May 2018 08: 57
          If the crunch is over in the tenth minute, it means that everyone left the film.
          I work as a projectionist - people are reluctant to go to Sobibor and tanks, and in the middle of the film, she just goes out of the audience, I say absolutely seriously.
          Anyway, the film is very dark, gloomy - excuse me, but for the people of life there is enough of this darkness, it was not enough to go to the cinema yet.
          1. +14
            7 May 2018 11: 41
            I watched the movie "Sobibor" yesterday. There were few spectators in this morning Sunday session, but no one crunched popcorn and did not leave during the film. Everyone looked silently and without a sound. You have a strange opinion about the gloom and darkness of the film about the concentration camp, in which about 250 people were killed. What did you expect to see there? The brutal killings of prisoners and the rape of beautiful women? What darkness in your life is comparable to the tragedy of millions of people destroyed in concentration camps?
            1. +1
              7 May 2018 17: 54
              Because in the morning People go to the film -Watch! And in the evening, to rest. What do you think: Why did you go in the morning?
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    3. +8
      7 May 2018 07: 43
      She correctly formulated the question .. We are full of idiots ready to spoil the Eternal Flame ... Although these characters do not go to such a movie. They are closer to the Avengers ..
      Quote: Click
      A woman with popocorn and cola was ... if she could not formulate the question otherwise! fool
      1. +2
        7 May 2018 10: 15
        Quote: 210ox
        Although these characters do not go to such a movie. They are "Avengers" closer ..

        People go to the movies to relax, and there are plenty of problems at work.
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    4. +13
      7 May 2018 07: 45
      Probably should have been asked ... why the actors are not bald ... why do they have hairstyles ... why are their clothes clean ... why are their faces fattened ... it's kind of a trifle, and perception is not that much and why ... but the main reason why we have forgotten how to shoot a psychological movie ...
      1. +3
        7 May 2018 11: 58
        If desired, flaws can be found in absolutely any film. If you watched this film and read something about Sobibor, you probably understood that it was a death camp, they brought it to kill and immediately drove it into hundreds of gas chambers. Only those who were temporarily needed to service this death factory remained alive, and they also did not live long, before they had time to turn into "walking skeletons." Prisoners were cut not for a bald hairstyle, but only for the sake of hair for the needs of industry. In the film, events take place over 2 weeks, as it actually was. At the end of September 1943, Soviet prisoners of war were brought, and on October 14 they had already organized a mass escape. In my opinion, the film is good, making you think about a lot, especially now.
        1. +1
          7 May 2018 15: 17
          I will not deny what you are writing about gas chambers, because for this criminal liability was introduced (complete nonsense). Just advise you to read the books of Jürgen Graf and Richard Harwood.
      2. +1
        7 May 2018 20: 06
        Quote: Vard
        Probably should have been asked ... why the actors are not bald ... why do they have hairstyles ... why are their clothes clean ... why are their faces fattened ... it's kind of a trifle, and perception is not that much and why ... but the main reason why we have forgotten how to shoot a psychological movie ...
        good
        One had to ask why this film is not shown for free, but for money. Memory, patriotism for money is cute .... crying
    5. +4
      7 May 2018 08: 46
      Cinema must be combed in the right direction.
      The right direction is:
      a) means - minimizing the presence of g * dow in the process;
      b) goals - maximizing the reconstruction of history in its entirety.
      And then after 70 years, for some reason, they talk about the grand tragedy of the Jewish people, which suffered an order of magnitude less than the Russian people, and as a result received tremendous benefits in the form of global domination.
      And about the drama of the Russian people something is silent. And films should be made about this - how ordinary Russians lived and fought, not only in the Hero Cities and during the largest battles of the Great Patriotic War. But also in ordinary villages of Russia, Belarus, Ukraine.
      And it would be nice to shoot dozens of films about traitors. To remember.
      1. +6
        7 May 2018 09: 35
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Cinema must be combed in the right direction.
        The right direction is:
        a) means - minimizing the presence of g * dow in the process;
        b) goals - maximizing the reconstruction of history in its entirety.
        And then after 70 years, for some reason, they talk about the grand tragedy of the Jewish people, which suffered an order of magnitude less than the Russian people, and as a result received tremendous benefits in the form of global domination.

        1) Jews suffered as a percentage per capita in no way less than the Russian people
        2) if you seem to be surrounded by Jews-this is for you or the Nazis or the doctor

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        And about drama of the Russian people keep quiet something. And films should be made about this - how ordinary Russians lived and fought, not only in the Hero Cities and during the largest battles of the Great Patriotic War. But also in ordinary villages of Russia, Belarus, Ukraine.
        about whom “The fate of man”, “Go and see”, “Check on the roads”? about the Portuguese / Filipinos / Chileans? !!!

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        And it would be nice to shoot dozens of films about traitors. To remember.
        -if you are of infancy (judging by your judgment !!) you do not know - there have been and are quite a few such films. The Eternal Call, for example, is one of the most popular Soviet TV series with brothers who find themselves on opposite sides of the front
        1. +3
          7 May 2018 09: 43
          Quote: your1970
          "Eternal call" for example -

          "Quiet Don"
        2. +5
          7 May 2018 10: 17
          Quote: your1970
          1) Jews suffered as a percentage per capita in no way less than the Russian people

          What does "percentage" mean? The life of one Jew is more important than the life of a hundred Russians — these are your percentages.
          Quote: your1970
          2) if you seem to be surrounded by Jews-this is for you or the Nazis or the doctor

          If you don’t see them, see your optometrist.
          1. +3
            7 May 2018 13: 14
            Quote: Pollux
            Quote: your1970
            1) Jews suffered as a percentage per capita in no way less than the Russian people

            What does "percentage" mean? The life of one Jew is more important than the life of a hundred Russians — these are your percentages.
            Quote: your1970
            2) if you seem to be surrounded by Jews-this is for you or the Nazis or the doctor

            If you don’t see them, see your optometrist.
            - No, you need a doctor. You see Jews and / or their advocates all around ...
            Or will you deny Hitler’s orders to exterminate the Jews MORE before ALL wars, including WWII?
            According to various estimates, the number of Jews is now between 15 and 20 million. Even a loss of 1 million is a lot. They lost a lot more than a million - according to various estimates, from 3 to 6 million.
            and by the way, the loss of Jews in the army is comparable in percentage terms
            1. +5
              7 May 2018 14: 47
              Quote: your1970
              They killed far more than a million - according to various estimates, from 3 to 6 million.

              The usual lie of ordinary Jews, so many Jews were not in all of Europe, and not all were killed, and not even the majority.
              Quote: your1970
              According to various estimates, the number of Jews is now no more than 15 to 20 million. The loss of even 1 million is a lot.

              That is, to kill a million Jews is a lot, but to kill twelve million Russians is not enough, because there are so many Russians, can they be killed?
              Quote: your1970
              Or will you deny Hitler’s orders to exterminate the Jews MORE before ALL wars, including WWII?

              I will not deny, do not admit, I did not see the documents, I was not present when I gave the order. I do not believe in such an order, because not all Jews were persecuted, many Jews served in the Wehrmacht and no one persecuted them. They persecuted other Jews, anti-fascists, but here the Jews did not stand out in anything, they persecuted all anti-fascists, and not just Jews.
              Quote: your1970
              You see Jews around

              Will you deny the existence of this nation?
              1. 0
                8 May 2018 08: 42
                Quote: Pollux
                Quote: your1970
                You see Jews around
                Will you deny the existence of this nation?
                - I will deny the inferiority of all other nations - on which you insist, claiming that Jews rule the world. You deliberately humiliate all other nations - raising Jews above the roof, saying that everyone else is so stupid / unable to control themselves - that a tiny 20 million Jews rule 6 with over billions ..
                Quote: Pollux
                I will not deny, do not admit, I did not see the documents, I was not present when I gave the order. I do not believe in such an order
                -strange, but the tribunal in Nuremberg for some reason believed ...
                And there was the night of Crystal Knives ...
                and about the orders:
                "Goebbels wrote in his diary that the order was given personally by the Führer, and the Führer personally ordered the arrest of between 20000 and 30000 Jews."
                1. 0
                  8 May 2018 20: 31
                  Quote: your1970
                  - I will deny the inferiority of all other nations - on which you insist, claiming that the Jews rule the world.

                  Striving for power over the World, they show extremely negative traits of a human character. It is the Jews who are injurious, and not the "others."
                  Quote: your1970
                  -strange, but the tribunal in Nuremberg for some reason believed ...

                  Do not forget who ruled the tribunal.
                  Quote: your1970
                  the Führer personally ordered the arrest of between 20000 and 30000 Jews. "

                  Che so little? Do not pull on genocide. Ordered to arrest or kill?
            2. +2
              7 May 2018 15: 44
              But nothing that Schickelgruber was at least half Jewish, nothing that he was sponsored and supported by such families as the Rockefellers and the Morgan. As for the Holocaust, everything is not so simple as it seems to the majority. The Jews themselves are also full of all sorts of radical groups, such as Hasidim, for example. The Jews have their own favorites, such as the Levites. And I have little doubt that the Jews themselves, or their individual groups, are involved in the Holocaust. By the way, the very idea of ​​fascism originates in the Jewish Old Testament, for those who are not vkurse.
        3. +2
          7 May 2018 14: 06
          Quote: your1970
          but about whom “The fate of man”, “Go and see”, “Check on the roads”? about the Portuguese / Filipinos / Chileans? !!!

          It was shot during the Union. Name the film shot today in this format.
          1. +1
            8 May 2018 08: 46
            Quote: albert
            Quote: your1970
            but about whom “The fate of man”, “Go and see”, “Check on the roads”? about the Portuguese / Filipinos / Chileans? !!!

            It was shot during the Union. Name the film shot today in this format.
            -man demanded films about the tragedy of the people. I wrote that the best films have already been made, making it better is very difficult, almost impossible.
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      2. +1
        7 May 2018 12: 06
        This film is not only about the extermination of Jews. The film is about fascism, about meek people and nonhumans who have lost their human appearance. Anti-Semitism is not much better than fascism. Of course, more films should be made about this, too many began to forget the brutal lessons of that war!
        1. +4
          7 May 2018 14: 07
          Quote: Polar explorer
          Anti-Semitism is not much better than fascism

          For me, Israeli Zionism is equal to fascism.
          1. +1
            7 May 2018 14: 51
            Quote: albert
            For me, Israeli Zionism is equal to fascism.

            And anti-Semitism is equal to anti-fascism.
    6. +6
      7 May 2018 08: 46
      Quote: Click
      Indeed, there is an impressive army of spectators that goes to the cinema not to feel the films (if any), but just to relax.

      And the screenwriters, directors and actors are to blame for the fact that "there is an impressive army of spectators". It was they who didn’t “force” to forget that he had come “just to relax”, they did not carry away with the topical script, beautiful production and amazing play of the actors. All the same "soap operas", even if the film claims to be something more serious. The bar of Russian cinema was lowered “below the plinth” by the constants Ernst, Medina and other gentlemen. “We shoot what the viewer wants to watch” and “Gu-ha”, “Shtrafbat” and other crap with “soap operas” appear in addition
      And they asked the viewer what they want to watch? Have they ever tried to make a film at least at the level of Soviet cinema?
      1. +1
        7 May 2018 12: 10
        Yes, the list of such flawed "films" can be continued for a long time: "9 companies", "Icebreaker", "Stalingrad" ...
      2. 0
        7 May 2018 15: 33
        Already ask! The audience voted with their personal money for the film "28 Panfilov".
        1. 0
          7 May 2018 15: 49
          By the way, one of the few good films made in Russia recently.
    7. 0
      7 May 2018 09: 04
      and what they wanted, what would they discuss here? No question, no answer, respectively. Emotions sucked?
    8. +2
      7 May 2018 12: 13
      If we had a lot of normal films in cinema, then there would probably be an alternative to "Hollywood" as well, but it’s mostly incredibly dumb "comedies" that play.
      After all, we have many veterans who went through the Second World War from beginning to end, are full of different interesting stories, but no, it’s probably very difficult to make a high-quality, massive, interesting film about them with good special effects about their friendship, courage and heroism, or about our specialists in Syria, no, it’s easier to shoot about a whore. Who is waving to the Nazis like in Stalingrad.
    9. Maz
      0
      7 May 2018 19: 27
      Set off to Admiral Khabensky
  2. +27
    7 May 2018 07: 01
    In fact, Hollywood does a lot of negative things. He promotes what is actually not in the West. He creates our negative image. Hollywood projects parallel reality, rewriting history, exposing the winners as marauders, and those who were the source of evil-saviors of the world. We need to shoot a normal humanistic movie that was in the USSR. And the Ministry of Culture sponsors the counterculture in fact.
    1. +4
      7 May 2018 07: 41
      Now Hollywood, having hardened into stamp products for residents of colored ghettos or tolerant burghers from the EU, has begun to slowly move under pressure from Sino-Asian cinema. The Chinese correctly grasped the direction of development of the future cinema in terms of the development of computer graphics and its gradual replacement of acting fiction films. Modern computer heroes already have better facial expressions, more clearly express their emotions and have more pronounced gaming capabilities than ordinary actors, who also have to pay millions of fees.
    2. +6
      7 May 2018 07: 55
      Quote: Altona
      We need to shoot a normal humanistic movie that was in the USSR.

      Precisely. And everyone will go to Hollywood films, as it was during the Soviet era, when in order to watch Rambo's First Blood, a neighbor in a video recorder with a nasty translation fled from party meetings.
      Sobibor received "a movie not for everyone" This is a fact. If our cinema wants to "comb the viewer" in the right direction - it SHOULD make a movie for everyone, like Hollywood does. Colorful, with special effects, with a good play of actors, movies for relaxation. And it already weave elements of party political enlightenment, as it is done in Hollywood.
    3. 0
      7 May 2018 09: 10
      Quote: Altona
      Actually, Hollywood does a lot of negative things.

      depending on what points of view to look from ours - yes, with their so solid pluses
  3. +8
    7 May 2018 07: 02
    Khabensky went too far ....
    1. +7
      7 May 2018 07: 16
      Quote: nPuBaTuP
      Khabensky went too far ..

      with what? what did the boorish woman say who is she?
      1. +7
        7 May 2018 07: 23
        a person who is threatened with such a topic, and judging by the reviews and having raised it, it is quite possible to be instructive. Sergei hi
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      2. +7
        7 May 2018 07: 53
        Well, she’s not rude .... she asked a logical question in principle .... but Konstantin shouldn’t have taken everything with hostility and tried to figure it out (my purely personal opinion)
        1. +3
          7 May 2018 08: 33
          Quote: nPuBaTuP
          Well, she’s not rude .... she asked a logical question in principle

          The question can, and in essence, but only specify what exactly she cares about, she could not. And what question is the answer.
        2. 0
          7 May 2018 12: 14
          So, after all, he was not rude! He spoke emotionally, but quite culturally!
  4. +16
    7 May 2018 07: 04
    What kind of scandal is it? Khabensky correctly answered the incorrectly asked question. Obviously, the "journalist" counted on such a reaction. I would advise some journalists to get less involved in popcorn and Coca-Cola while savoring their "works" in the media.
    1. +6
      7 May 2018 07: 24
      briefly - the woman wanted a scandal, she got it!
  5. +8
    7 May 2018 07: 05
    Well, at all times and among any spectators there will be those who will not watch Sobibor because it is heavy, scary, it doesn’t “entertain”, it just says that if Nazism is left unpunished it will be THAT. And organisms in uniform (well, not to call them people) will treat people like this ...
    And Khabensky - he took his film so close to his heart - that is not entirely adequate in the answers ...
  6. +5
    7 May 2018 07: 06
    Hollywood is fake world wide! No.
    And the flight of the USA to the moon is a fake !!! stop
    1. +10
      7 May 2018 07: 20
      Quote: keeper03
      And the flight of the USA to the moon is a fake !!!

      and is it a fake? But I believe Leonov
      1. +2
        7 May 2018 09: 35
        If you BELIEVE, then you need to go to church. Since the laws of physics can only be canceled by GOD.
        1. +1
          7 May 2018 09: 47
          Quote: Sergey Horuzhyk
          then you

          pumpkin doggy
          the laws of physics can only be abolished by GOD.

          eyes and ears clean. there about the laws of physics where the signals came from Leonov and says.
          but what laws are YOU, I did not understand
      2. +3
        7 May 2018 09: 37
        too many facts against, and Leonov - well, maybe he gave what kind of subscription.
        1. +2
          7 May 2018 09: 52
          Quote: novel xnumx
          too many facts against, and Leonov - well, maybe he gave what kind of subscription.

          Well, not one Leonov says.
          I served in Baikonur. Site number 2. The officers who launched Gagarin and personally knew Korolev also served. None of them have ever said that the stripes did not fly to the moon.
          1. +2
            7 May 2018 10: 59
            where is the lunar soil (400kg, for a minute), where are the real photos and videos?
            1. +1
              7 May 2018 12: 01
              Quote: novel xnumx
              where are the real photos and videos?

              Do you know that the famous Gagarinsky "went" filmed in the studio? So, what on this basis to question the flight itself ?!
              1. +1
                7 May 2018 12: 47
                we have 400 kg of lunar soil did not disappear. and my mother worked for Korolev, how the start was getting ready I know
            2. 0
              7 May 2018 15: 50
              Quote: novel xnumx
              where is the lunar soil (400kg, for a minute), where are the real photos and videos?

              where is the lunar soil from the lunar programs of the USSR?
              1. +1
                7 May 2018 15: 59
                all is. all where it should be
          2. 0
            8 May 2018 00: 59
            Goodnight!!!
            Quote: LSA57
            I served in Baikonur

            I did not serve in Baikonur.
            Can you comment on how the citizens of Yuezey wrote and crap in zero gravity without having a SPACE toilet ???? ))))
      3. +1
        7 May 2018 13: 47
        Leonov has as much information about the US lunar program as all of us. He, like us, was not on the moon.
        1. +2
          7 May 2018 15: 59
          Quote: Roma-1977
          Leonov has as much information about the US lunar program as all of us

          were you in the cosmonaut squad? were you prepared for the appolon union program? were you preparing for a lunar expedition ?????
          But nothing that Leonov was preparing to fly to the moon ??
          so what information did you receive? where from? voice of geyropa? voice of mattress?
          1. 0
            7 May 2018 19: 45
            That is, when he was being prepared for the SoyuzPollon, the Americans said: “By my mother, they were on the moon!”? And this is considered evidence outweighing the numerous jambs in the "moon" artifacts that are in the public domain?
    2. +6
      7 May 2018 08: 53
      That's right, the USA also fakes them at all, the USA doesn’t come up with a government to blame its mistakes and incompetence on its machinations .... and in general, we live in a “matrix” acting as batteries ...
      1. +2
        7 May 2018 11: 59
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        That's right, the USA also fakes them at all, the USA doesn’t come up with a government to blame its mistakes and incompetence on its machinations .... and in general, we live in a “matrix” acting as batteries ...

        Bravo "monster"! I have long suspected. Especially when people were offered two pills (I'm talking about Yeltsin’s election in 1996 "Vote or lose") wassat
    3. 0
      7 May 2018 11: 53
      Quote: keeper03
      Hollywood is fake world wide! No.
      And the flight of the USA to the moon is a fake !!! stop

      We need to continue the semantic series: and all your comments are fake! wassat
  7. +6
    7 May 2018 07: 06
    My personal - popcorn and cola is not for public places like a movie theater, even if the film is entertaining. Well, what about stupid ones, so stupid people will go to Sobibor if they have no idea what the film is about.
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 07: 22
      Quote: AlexVas44
      Well, what about stupid ones, so stupid people will go to Sobibor

      will go. they don’t understand anything. come out and forget right there
  8. +6
    7 May 2018 07: 16
    In my opinion, Khabensky was nervous. It was necessary to answer more sharply! But the lady lowered our people to the state of chewing. Dumb herd. She, de quintessence of society. We, coca colocorn ruminants! What and who, this madam herself? What distinguished and became famous?
    1. +2
      7 May 2018 09: 09
      Quote: 30 vis
      We, coca colocorn ruminants!

      unfortunately not far from the truth
      1. +2
        7 May 2018 11: 48
        You're not right ! I thought so too. But when the Maidan events in Kiev began, I was pleasantly surprised by our people living in Sevastopol! Rose from old to small. The witness himself. The youth pleasantly surprised me, I thought everything ... Fools, nonsense and drug addicts. No! Well done! Danger rallies. as they say check by battle ...- "If a friend was suddenly
        And not a friend, not an enemy, but - so,
        If you do not understand right away,
        Is he good or bad -
        Guy to the mountains of pull - take a chance!
        Do not leave him alone,
        Let him in a bunch in one with you -
        There you will understand who it is.

        If a guy in the mountains - not ah,
        If you immediately turn limp and - down,
        Step stepped on the glacier and - snik,
        He paused - and in a cry, -
        So next to you is a stranger
        Do not scold him - drive:
        They don’t take those up, and here
        About these do not sing.

        If he did not whine, did not ache,
        Although he was gloomy and angry, but he walked,
        And when you fell from the rocks,
        He moaned but held
        If he followed you like in a fight
        At the top stood a hoppy -
        So, as for yourself,
        Rely on him.
  9. +6
    7 May 2018 07: 25
    This film is directly aggressively promoted ... I have one suspicion about him! 9 I'll see for sure)
  10. +6
    7 May 2018 07: 25
    Quote: nPuBaTuP
    Khabensky went too far ....

    -------------------------------
    Khabensky "went too far" with the role of Kolchak ... So he seems to be a good person, a good actor, and a philanthropist collects money for treatment for children. But with Kolchak, for some reason, he starred in such an indecent cranberry.
    1. 0
      7 May 2018 15: 40
      Ten years have passed and much has changed, including in people's heads. Against the background of films with the participation of Serebryakov, for example, Khabensky is the most patriotic!
  11. +5
    7 May 2018 07: 27
    Quote: 30 vis
    In my opinion, Khabensky was nervous. It was necessary to answer more sharply!

    ---------------------------
    I agree. A person has the right to emotions and to his own opinion and vision, and the lady just had to be more tactful, and not shove with her “opinion”.
  12. +3
    7 May 2018 07: 31
    In modern Russia, it’s difficult to make a good movie, and even less so for second-rate actors from the series.
    Khabensky became another offended and misunderstood, like Kozlovsky.
    1. +3
      7 May 2018 08: 27
      Quote: Million
      In modern Russia, it’s difficult to make a good movie, and even less so for second-rate actors from the series.
      Khabensky became another offended and misunderstood, like Kozlovsky.

      I would not compare Khabensky with Kozlovsky. Only by the fact that he helps sick children, Khabensky has already shown himself to be a worthy person. And he is a good actor.
      1. +4
        7 May 2018 09: 32
        Let's share human qualities with professional ones
    2. +3
      7 May 2018 09: 54
      Quote: Million
      It's hard to make a good movie in modern Russia

      well yes. it’s easier to sit on the Internet and water manure everywhere in Russia
      from which film studio to lead where and what can I remove? unemployed director?
      1. +4
        7 May 2018 11: 53
        Whoopers appeared! They came to work. I don’t water Russia with dirt, I want our cinema to appear at a level no lower than Soviet cinema. Now there’s practically nothing to watch, with rare exceptions
  13. +3
    7 May 2018 07: 34
    Russian cinema leaves much to be desired. But there were also good sports films, films about space, about the war. Films with at least some ideology.
    At 28 Panfilovites the people did not chew and clap at the end, although of course the film is still the same ... Khabensky is right, there is no need to demonize people. There is still a conscience.
    It is a pity there are no films about Syria, about events in Ukraine. Seen banned ....
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      1. +5
        7 May 2018 08: 15
        You just do not blab it when you find yourself in Russia. And you’ll be scribbling your slag here from the hospital.
      2. KCA
        +1
        7 May 2018 08: 27
        The soldiers are assigned a task, the soldiers are fulfilling it, and for what and how, is that you ask the General Staff a question, you can personally the Commander-in-Chief, if you have the courage
      3. +6
        7 May 2018 08: 53
        About Syria !? smile where the fighters run to the attack with a cry ... FOR GAZPROOOOM !!!

        Are you now pr A Hero of Russia Roman Nikolaevich Filipov joked like that?
        Ah ...
        1. +3
          7 May 2018 09: 57
          Quote: Mestny
          Are you now pr A Hero of Russia Roman Nikolaevich Filipov joked like that?
          Ah ...

          this is P-O-D-O-N-O-K
          and those who pitted near him left
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          1. +2
            7 May 2018 13: 43
            You better get out of here, I'm turning to you.
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        3. 0
          7 May 2018 17: 31
          Major Filipov has a blessed memory ... !!!
    2. +6
      7 May 2018 07: 46
      Is Kiseleva not enough for you? And so 24 hours on Fed channels this movie is shown)
  14. +10
    7 May 2018 07: 44
    My wife decided to invite me to go to the cinema to watch Khabensky's film Sobibor.
    To which I replied that I did not want to go and injure my nervous system.
    The hassle in life is enough.
    And to empathize with the events is a fire.
    And he caught himself thinking that in today's (far from young age) I am more emotionally worried about everything that is connected with the Great War, which our people faced, with the tests that they faced, than we say thirty years ago back.
    So young age is a hindrance to the possibility of a conscious and full understanding of the full depth of tragedy and horror.
    On the other hand, youth is characterized by a quick rejection of all the negative.
    Life is going. Life goes on.
    But the NEXT generation must have the cornerstones of the right culture, the right history, the right understanding of the essence of past events.
    Despite my rather cool attitude towards Jews (to put it mildly), I am standing thanks to Khabensky for his little feat of life.
    He did the necessary and important thing.
    And it's expensive.
    1. 0
      7 May 2018 12: 14
      Quote: demo
      And he caught himself thinking that in today's (far from young age) I am more emotionally worried about everything that is connected with the Great War, which our people faced, with the tests that they faced, than we say thirty years ago back.

      He also began to notice that with age he began to perceive “serious” films more emotionally. And perception has intensified, and there is enough negativity in life.
  15. Mwg
    +4
    7 May 2018 07: 48
    The essence of the dispute, in my opinion, is that Khabensky made a film for an audience who, by default, should be aware of the events of that time in the interpretation of Soviet textbooks and with that promise of pride for their people, who survived the horrors of war that the old textbooks gave. The journalist asked about the present time: about young people and their parents - the "Pepsi generation", whether the film will be understood by them. And she is right - to the growing youth and their parents - to the “Pepsi generation” this film will be boring and completely incomprehensible, and maybe for some of them it will even seem far-fetched. And all because the children of the late 80s and today's youth were taught a different story - the story that “friends” from the West persistently recommended to teach to us and which was once taken with a bang here, it is unknown as motivated leaders of the Ministry of Education.
    1. +6
      7 May 2018 08: 13
      My son studied when there were all these textbooks. But I told him a real story. We went to all military museums, watched films, I told him about our ancestors who fought. And after the stories of the great-grandmother about the occupation and no films are needed. Therefore, he grew up as a person with a correct understanding of history.
      1. Mwg
        +1
        7 May 2018 09: 04
        Alexey, the merit is exclusively yours, few people are now puzzled by this. And thank you for contributing through your son to the discovery of our historical past for the younger.
    2. +3
      7 May 2018 08: 47
      Quote: MVG
      for young people and their parents - the Pepsi generation, this film will be boring and completely incomprehensible

      Why such allegations? Have you seen the movie? I did not see. But I think that the scenes of executions even for the Pepsi generation will be quite understandable. Indeed, Khabensky is right — it is not necessary to consider that there are “not very smart people” around, if a person came to the film and watched it to the end, then if something did not understand to the end, then he learned a lot for himself (otherwise he would most likely have left the session). You, as I understand it, have the same opinion as this journalist.
      1. Mwg
        +3
        7 May 2018 08: 58
        That's right, I have the opinion of a journalist. Due to circumstances, I have to quite often communicate with the younger generation. And you know, in 70 cases out of 100 you are struck by the set of knowledge (or rather, ignorance) that young people show in the humanities. Up to geographic cretinism, let alone history ...
        Of course, there are adequate youth who are not even proud of, but basically, like Fonvizin’s: “Why do I need geography, I’ll take a cab, he will get it for the money.”
        1. +2
          7 May 2018 11: 56
          In the army, I was surprised at the knowledge of colleagues in history and geography .. Do not find the capital of the USSR! To say that the Second World War began on July 28, 1942! This was in 1977 at the political classes. Pearls were issued by colleagues with secondary education .Russian by nationality, with a good certificate, graduated from high school! There were parishes, there are and always will be!
    3. +2
      7 May 2018 09: 08
      Quote: MVG
      And all because the children of the late 80s and today's youth were taught a different story - the story that “friends” from the West persistently recommended to teach to us and which was once taken with a bang here, it is unknown as motivated leaders of the Ministry of Education.

      No need to think that young people do not know the real story. In addition to the school, there are also parents who must also be engaged in upbringing and education.
      Of course there are people who do not mind the whole story, but it doesn’t depend on education.
      1. Mwg
        +1
        7 May 2018 09: 22
        Yes, I don’t think anything; you can come up with anything you want. I see. Since 1993, our modern concept of education has made education a paid service, and the majority of parents believe that the school should educate and give children the same education that they received. But this is not so. Corresponding and result.
        For example, you know that for 10 years children have not been taught astronomy and resumed teaching this discipline the year before last?
        1. +2
          7 May 2018 09: 46
          I went to school in 89 and I dare to hope)) that I know the story well enough.
          I have two nieces, both of whom are 14 years old. When I meet, I will definitely ask them for knowledge of the Great Patriotic War. What I know the main point I have no doubt, but it became interesting how knowledgeable in the details.
          I don’t know about astronomy.
          1. Mwg
            +1
            7 May 2018 09: 54
            Follow my path. Personally, I am all young people with whom I have to communicate, I torment with questions and try to interest in the truth that we knew. My cousin’s nephew lives in Estonia, and sometimes I throw him what and where to read. They have there it is very important.
  16. +3
    7 May 2018 07: 52
    Hollywood, he generally cost himself. Ramba 5,6,7, Terminators 8,9,10, sequels, prequels ... No scripts, no fantasies. Already does not even pull on chewing gum. Invincible tape on Mars and flying a fire extinguisher - all that is enough for the brain.
  17. +3
    7 May 2018 08: 03
    While Medinsky is engaged in culture with us, and television will watch with popcorn and Coca-Cola. And even with beer. At night, the programs are interesting and films, but in the afternoon and especially in the evening there is nothing to watch. I hope he is not reassigned. For he is a mere patriot in words, and as an idler and a rag, and his department has repeatedly been convicted of theft.
  18. +4
    7 May 2018 08: 03
    Khabensky is a Man! Present.
    1. +2
      7 May 2018 08: 35
      Quote: Captive
      Khabensky is a Man! Present.

      And the rest, who?
      1. -1
        7 May 2018 08: 59
        And the rest too.
        Only he demonstrated it, and many others do not.
        1. +2
          7 May 2018 10: 40
          Quote: Mestny
          And the rest too.
          Only he demonstrated it, and many others do not.

          So he showed a new one for the viewer, which many did not know ?!
          There’s probably nothing to shoot, how many have they re-shot USSR films ?!
          Old films about the war were shot by participants in that war, by witnesses who suffered what modern actors can convey to the audience about the war they were holding! It was not necessary to disgrace so in the historical field! And most importantly, the director himself and the main character, well, straight Khabensky burns laughing .... Fake it all, fake and acting ... hi
          1. 0
            7 May 2018 15: 52
            Strange logic. How many Soviet or Russian films about Sobibor can you name? And how do you think historical films can now be made without actors who are participants in the Neva battle, the Kulikovo battle and other historical events?
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    1. 0
      7 May 2018 10: 05
      Quote: Bok Tubres
      They will not be. Never.

      What about
      https://www.vokrug.tv/article/show/sovremennye_fi
      lmy_ko_dnyu_pobedy_47786 /
      few?
      1. 0
        7 May 2018 15: 27
        Do you seriously think that it is correct to compare the "old" version, for example, "Are the dawns here quiet," with the modern version? If so, then you and I probably will not understand each other, alas ...
  20. +4
    7 May 2018 08: 21
    A normal, ordinary question, but Khabensky’s reaction is alarming. Self-conceit is a cumbersome one.
    1. +2
      7 May 2018 10: 06
      Quote: bald
      but Khabensky’s reaction is alarming.

      reaction of a NORMAL person to a boor
      Self-conceit is a cumbersome one.

      belay like this???
      1. +3
        7 May 2018 10: 27
        Yes, she didn’t seem like a shame, but asked a direct question: "... what will happen if people come to the film with popcorn (unprepared youth who do not know decency) and Coca-Cola?" He did not answer normally to her question, but acted in a boorish manner. Sergey, believe me, I really like his roles played in films - well done. And then he scalded me like boiling water. Himself drove a woman into a dead end by his actions, demands an answer to his question without answering her. And at the expense of self-conceit - so this is a disease of many directors and actors, and the plank at some point begins to “play pranks”. Purely my opinion, from the heart, not related to politics.
  21. 0
    7 May 2018 08: 37
    Yes, not .... Everything is easier, there is a type of journalists who make a name for themselves on the "scandal" and "negative." Everywhere they look for “bad”, in the same place where it is not there, they add a banal gag, add an atmosphere of “scandal” to promote a situation-type in the genre “and Baba Yaga is against ...”
    1. +2
      7 May 2018 10: 10
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Yes, not .... Everything is easier, there is a type of journalists who make a name for themselves on the "scandal" and "negative." Everywhere they look for “bad”, in the same place where it is not there, they add a banal gag, add an atmosphere of “scandal” to promote a situation-type in the genre “and Baba Yaga is against ...”

      And why, then, all the films of famous directors are waiting for the box office from viewing ?! hi
      The question was in the forehead and he could not clearly answer, for whom he was shooting the film, to whom was the message of thought ?!! .... Yes
      1. 0
        7 May 2018 12: 59
        The question was in the forehead and he could not answer clearly, for whom was he shooting the film, to whom was the message of thought ?!

        Well, he would have answered: "not for average minds."
  22. +3
    7 May 2018 08: 40
    Konstantin was confused. It was just necessary to ask the lady how much popcorn this lady ate, what the film was about.
  23. +3
    7 May 2018 08: 47
    Quote: ROSS 42
    The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...

    I remembered my childhood, although the sunset of the Union was going on, films and all that, the problem was to go with seeds, but in general, this is culture, it’s good that they go to the movies without barbecue and barbecue, they themselves spoiled everything, now they are looking for the extreme ones!
  24. +1
    7 May 2018 09: 08
    prohibit the zhrachka in the movie theater, people need to educate, and not turn them into a chewing herd
  25. 0
    7 May 2018 09: 12
    Why would Khabensky ask such a question? With the same success, one could ask him to any film critic or anyone who watched this film. In the end, she could, at first, ask herself, since she also seems to be engaged in the sort of activity of raising the younger generation. And the director made a film about real events, in fact, in order to be remembered. Forget - we will perish as a people whose grandfathers endured all this on themselves.
  26. +1
    7 May 2018 09: 22
    one more "director". Alle, the film was shot, a homeless costume, with a hint of Creativity, can be shot. and glasses Bondarchuk return smile
  27. +1
    7 May 2018 09: 26
    The rection of the person who took cognac normally. And everything was supposed to be drummed to him, like he was a genius and took off a masterpiece, and here you are with some questions about popcorn .. Where is popcorn, and where is Khabensky ... it’s a shame to look at such directors. We already have these: Mikhalkov, Shakhnazarov ... now this one too.
  28. 0
    7 May 2018 09: 29
    but I didn’t see what a "scandal" would sound here .... K. Khabensky, as a creative person, talked to a person who asked him a question ... well, there are people in our country what to do ... I certainly haven’t watched the film yet, I’ll watch it for sure, but my friends who watched this movie said, " situations (rustling packages, etc.) they did not notice .... since the character of the film kept in a certain tension.
  29. +1
    7 May 2018 09: 42
    I saw this conversation of Khabensky with that lady. Normal conversation, I didn’t notice any scandal there. It is disgusting to read the comments of people arguing about the commercialization of cinema on the one hand, and claiming that the film is not for everyone and will not find a viewer - on the other hand.
    Khabensky is a human being! He has already saved about 150 children from cancer and uses all his earnings for this activity. And such a person makes a film - a monument to nameless heroes and martyrs of that war. And what do they write in the comments on this film? And the comments - like a litmus test - show the quality of the author himself. You will involuntarily think about how good it is that we all gathered here have not become great. For that would be a great drama.
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  31. +2
    7 May 2018 09: 48
    The right question was asked by Khabensky, but the right answer was not forthcoming, but it is a pity ...
    The fact is that when a person is focused on the perception of information of the same movie, he perceives it critically. And if at the same time he drinks, chews, champs, crunches, farts, then it’s uncritical, because all these processes are distracting, but this is what is needed. At this time, bookmarks of the frame type 25 pass without delay.
    Psychologists work with screenwriters and directors. Hollywood has not entertained for a long time, he programs to popcorn crunching and Coca-Cola burping.
    Well, in general, that it would finally come down who is right in this story, imagine a picture - visitors to the Sobibor or Auschwitz memorial chewing popcorn and coca at the crematorium furnaces, although why not ... He is a business at Sobibor, as they say, nothing personal...
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  32. +2
    7 May 2018 09: 54
    Khabensky is one of the few who deserves respect.
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 10: 54
      Quote: Valerevich
      Khabensky is one of the few who deserves respect.

      The most talented and humane person. Real CITIZEN.
  33. +1
    7 May 2018 10: 05
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    Cinema must be combed in the right direction.
    The right direction is:
    a) means - minimizing the presence of g * dow in the process;
    b) goals - maximizing the reconstruction of history in its entirety.
    And then after 70 years, for some reason, they talk about the grand tragedy of the Jewish people, which suffered an order of magnitude less than the Russian people, and as a result received tremendous benefits in the form of global domination.
    And about the drama of the Russian people something is silent. And films should be made about this - how ordinary Russians lived and fought, not only in the Hero Cities and during the largest battles of the Great Patriotic War. But also in ordinary villages of Russia, Belarus, Ukraine.
    And it would be nice to shoot dozens of films about traitors. To remember.

    Write yourself about minimizing w ... dow in the process. Therefore, today there is still something to find money for Sobibor, and hardly for the tragedy of Russians and Belarusians.
  34. +4
    7 May 2018 10: 09
    "And then Ostap suffered ..." ??? smile
    It seems that the actor-director Khabensky was bored-worn out at a press conference, waited, waited for a question that would allow him to express his clearly “homework”, to voice to the media a declarative “ideology” of the current stage of his work and, ultimately, deciding for himself to take the “bull by the horns”, theatrically, with a trick, “climbed up” and began with might and main, without any concrete details, “combing” the tongue about “combing the cinema” and “raising the generation” ?! winked
    The poor girl tried, but already could not insert the words, in her excuse, into the "emotionally-colored" mentoring monologue of this "outstanding artist" request ... The question was probably posed by the right one - the trend of thoughtless consumption of cinematographic products (gradually, and then in a snap, brought up by Hollywood and imitators around the world, not without reason in Hollywood they distinguish films according to the target audience - “intellectual” for their own use and mass "consumer goods" for "developing countries") "there is a place to be," alas request
    Apparently I wanted for ourselves, and for all of us, to find out whether and how this director and actor in his work considered the possible semantic effect on the “frivolous” audience who came to the cinema to relax and have fun ?!
    I don’t know if I’m going to see this film of K. Khabensky in the near future, the picture on the poster somehow does not inspire the unrealistically well-fed faces of the actors, without that indescribable expression of eyes and facial expressions of the face by which you can unmistakably recognize the former “sitter” smile
    With such a “poster”, made a harsh, expression of “diehard fighters” on the “table”, as among the Khabenkin actors, they would definitely be the very first “not to like” the vahman and the commandant (known to all Sobibor for his fierce cruelty) to others, they would immediately be beaten with sticks to death or just shot, the Nazis and their cherished henchmen, "herbalists (" accustomed to capturing good German coffee " wink ) "for less they deprived of life and health! Yes
    During the times of “perestroika and glasnost,” I watched the movie “Escape from Sobibor” on TV, then I heard about this only successful rebellion-escape for the first time, then my heart sank too (now I try not to watch this), because the topic is very close to me, my dad only miraculously, by chance, he survived in the Nazi concentration camp ... a lot of things were told about the local order and about the atrocities committed by the Nazis - "pan-European" ...
    Since the time of that film, he turned his attention to Sobibor and to “herbalists”, without missing any attention from materials he would like to be disappointed with this creation of Russian cinema, which claims documentary historicism and (as if K. Khabensky hints?) approach "to the topic?
    I remember from the latter according to Sobibor, during recent excavations (and by order of the German command, the camp was razed to the ground after that mass escape) foundations of gas chambers were found, the presence of which was completely denied by post-war apologists for Hitler-fascism, prisoners' household items and clothing, and a gold wedding ring with an inscription in Hebrew: "Remember that you devoted your life to me," somewhere I have this clipping from a Belarusian newspaper (www.sb.by), with a photo of this ring, still lies, the words immediately fell to my soul , and also turned out to be mega-prophetic ...
    So, K. Khabensky, it seems, spoke in many respects the correct words, but the “somewhat chaotic” style of his artistically exalted (almost with “wringing his hands” like Vera Kholodnaya from the “silent movie”))) performance, then, how he grabbed and “bonfired” the questionnaire, left an ambiguous impression and partially blurred, with this pompous “scandalose”, the very “deep meaning” of what he said! IMHO
  35. +2
    7 May 2018 10: 18
    Directed by the director to drown will be drowned. And it doesn’t matter who asked what question. And here he played heroically Kolchak, raised the Jewish question, you look and the order will be thrown.
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  37. +1
    7 May 2018 10: 30
    Quote: ROSS 42
    The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...


    Unsuccessful maxims in relation to K. Khabensky! An article about him, not about the whole cinema. He, just against the vulgarization of the film industry. But in this topic, everything returns to normal, the position of the central government. They must and must set the bar below which no one has the right to fall! In the Soviet cinema, such bars existed, and there was control over creativity, and therefore the cinema was adequate!
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 13: 59
      Quote: sib.ataman
      In the Soviet cinema, such bars existed, and there was control over creativity, and therefore the cinema was adequate!

      Are you talking about censorship? And how many films that became hits lay on the shelves for years, but how many failed. Who are the judges? Let’s make Medina judge ?? Or maybe Mikhalkov? Or you ???
  38. +1
    7 May 2018 10: 51
    A strange impression of READING comments. Friends! Is it possible to say something about an interview without watching a movie? I haven’t watched it yet either.
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 13: 47
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      A strange impression of READING comments. Friends! Is it possible to say something about an interview without watching a movie? I haven’t watched it yet either.

      The question was not about the film, but about those who would watch it. Revise the plot. And also the director’s reaction to the question .. a harmless question. And also about whether he was in an altered state under the influence ... or is it normal for creators. As he himself stated, he has the experience of going drunk on stage.
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        8 May 2018 01: 39
        Quote: Semen1972
        Quote: Vkd dvk
        A strange impression of READING comments. Friends! Is it possible to say something about an interview without watching a movie? I haven’t watched it yet either.

        The question was not about the film, but about those who would watch it. Revise the plot. And also the director’s reaction to the question .. a harmless question. And also about whether he was in an altered state under the influence ... or is it normal for creators. As he himself stated, he has the experience of going drunk on stage.

        Interesting opinion. Talk about the audience, without affecting the subject itself, in the name of which, in fact, this company has gathered. Talk about a movie, for example, called "Award". Would anyone have fallen for the idea of ​​condemning the audience that they were eating sweets there (Popcorn was not there then. Pepsi, too). But the two-hour nonsense, trying to raise honesty and conviction from the screen not to receive an unearned bonus, was. Is it possible to compare the hot topic, heroism and sacrifice in the name of life, shown in the film Sobibor?
  39. +2
    7 May 2018 12: 01
    But among the recent achievements in the economy, we name three of our films that have collected very good box office
  40. 0
    7 May 2018 12: 06
    The degradation of journalism is evident. Many, if not all, who are not lazy to poke at malleable keys and drive their seedy jacket, are ready to consider themselves journalists, not only without knowing the basics of the profession, but also with the language somehow experiencing obvious problems, but if in this cocktail self-confidence to add ambition and arrogance, then something like that comes out. because of similar questions, and turning the meanings inside out, all for the sake of views and ratings, how can one not get involved at the expense of a talented and intelligent person !? I'm sorry for the confusion ...
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 13: 44
      Quote: Himdym
      therefore, similar questions, and turning things inside out

      How would you ask the question that our society of consumption nurtured on cheap fiction and films should take serious things? What are you seeing inversion of meaning here. You can ask in general in the sense of your comment. In my opinion, you wrote it for the sake of “views and ratings, how can you not be PR at the expense of a talented and intelligent person”. And certainly you can’t argue with your self-criticism: “I beg your pardon for confusion ...”. How can a person who, in three lines, writes in a calm atmosphere, writes confusion can criticize any journalists ??? That's about those. as you had the question ... Which has a confusion in my head ...
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        7 May 2018 14: 35
        He would have asked, having connected a little professionalism (if he had been a journalist), and since he is not a journalist, something similar would have happened like that of a journalist. and this, I mean journalism in general, have you heard about such a technique as induction? By the way, I know perfectly well about the level of training of journalists from Soviet times, as well as modern ones, I think, unlike you.
  41. +1
    7 May 2018 13: 29
    Showing the well-fed prisoners of Sobibor, the directors of the film shamelessly lied.
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      7 May 2018 15: 03
      Quote: PValery53
      Showing the well-fed prisoners of Sobibor, the directors of the film shamelessly lied.

      It was hard to find hungry and emaciated actors.
      PS And they’re not really killing, brazenly misinterpreting.
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      8 May 2018 01: 59
      Quote: PValery53
      Showing the well-fed prisoners of Sobibor, the directors of the film shamelessly lied.

      Something happened, one of two things. Either the artists played poorly, and you saw EXTERNAL, but not INTERNAL, or you are not able to look into the depths.
  42. +1
    7 May 2018 13: 32
    But do people go to the cinema to "maybe"? It seems to me that both the announcement and the film’s advertisement already speaks of the main idea of ​​the film. I think that already at this stage most of those who go to the cinema not to “think”, but to “watch” with popcorn and Coke, will fall off. Therefore, you should not make a problem out of this. The problem is not in the film, but in the fact that the generation is brought up on examples of impunity, money-grubbing, dubious values ​​in the media. This is the problem of society, which must be solved both at the household and at the state level. The problem is not the "comprehensibility" of the film. The problem is the viewer level. And this is a consequence of cinematic crafts from the Comedy Club and similar "masterpieces". Hollywood triumphs because it is always clear there - evil triumphs triumphantly and there is no need to think about it. And we always add reflection to the cinema, searches for the truth that the world is not black and white, etc. And now it is necessary that way - good versus bad, true against lies. And necessarily - a victory.
  43. 0
    7 May 2018 13: 34
    The name Sobibor, or Khatyn speaks for itself.
    To be remembered.
  44. 0
    7 May 2018 13: 43
    Well to our films. unfortunately far from Hollywood.
    Because Hollywood does a very important thing-
    he clearly fixes in the viewer's head an understanding of why
    the hero is the hero.
    In the appendix to the Second World War - why are we the greatest warriors in the world.
    This is what I would like to see, and not a series of sufferings and experiences
    individual hero. who didn’t dig into the groin.
    I personally want to see films about Soviet people,
    ordinary Soviet people who did this,
    which no Superman had ever dreamed of.
    And this is not some kind of fairy tale, but a real story.
    Let's get a film about the Little Earth, about the Caucasus.
    And the battles in Europe, about which they didn’t particularly talk about in Soviet times.
    And each film can be shot as a blockbuster about Superman.
    Only this Superman, born here, studied here and he is real.
    1. +1
      7 May 2018 16: 19
      About Small Earth (and a series about all Soviet landing operations) to make a film not according to Brezhnev’s “memoirs”, but really, about the design of the operation and its preparation, about the unsuccessful “main” and successful “auxiliary” landing under the command of Caesar Lvovich Kunikov (to where K. Khabensky would have to pump the "Jewish question" so that xenophobic disputes about "Tashkent rear rats (and" rear rats "would have exactly the same national composition as the mathematical ratio of the number of peoples in the multinational Soviet population!) "push to the appropriate marginal level Yes !), what and how it was, to show all the “tin”, it is imperative that the film should contain shots with cut bullets and fragments of the skeleton of the railway carriage (I hope that this monument was not turned into scrap metal?), as a clear measure of the density of the death soaring!
      So that there are no "wonderful" illusions, to show how the corpses of fallen soldiers are routinely pulled into funnels and sprinkled with earth so that they do not stink (then, after many, many years, during the construction, these soldier bones, ground with an excavator bucket, or a summer resident’s shovel, are also routinely loaded together with the excavated soil and other garbage, they will be quietly taken to a landfill or just laid on them communications and asphalt of parking lots - future defenders of the Motherland should know that this also happens, you must be prepared to fulfill your military duty and die unknown, becoming a song "grass and land ", and if there is a (at least improvised)" mortal medallion ", then you need to, without silly superstitions and zabobon, be sure to fill it with distinctive handwriting, preferably with a chemical pencil (which has not been released for a long time?) -" not all heroes wear orders ", many, many patriots unknown and without any government awards have accomplished their heroic feat for the defense of the homeland, but from this their feat did not lose their The greatness in our hearts and the names of many will still return from Nothingness — progress does not stand still, devices will be created that can see the contours of long-connected bodies under the ground as clearly as the human eye sees, and I believe that Humanity will be able to draw sooner or later information from the universal Information field, in which everything about everyone and everything is known, in which the past-present-future exists "simultaneously" Yes , it really exists!), but they do not organize magnificent rallies, as in the long-standing megapathic Soviet "war films" and the official, to the dates, "no one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten" ...
      Our fighters and Nazis should be realistically shown (not like Fedya B. in his quasi "Stalingrad" movie and brought out not so fools or "handsome men" (epic "17 moments" gave birth to imitators, "housekeepers" and "SS men" in cities and towns Union, it was still a “bogeyman” for the local bodies of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs), as they were shown in Soviet films, and by those militant, unthinkable, inhuman beast, business-like and organized killers, like themselves, by the majority (some exceptions only confirm the “rule”!) , showed on the territory of the Soviet Union!
      So that all sorts of “kind-hearted Kolisurengoys” would not dare to moan anymore “and they would do so for the Hitler’s occupiers, and don’t want to wail ?!” so that if they’ll howl like that, they will immediately “fall” into the category of ignored margins ...
    2. +1
      8 May 2018 02: 07
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well to our films. unfortunately far from Hollywood.
      Because Hollywood does a very important thing-
      he clearly fixes in the viewer's head an understanding of why
      the hero is the hero.
      In the appendix to the Second World War - why are we the greatest warriors in the world.
      This is what I would like to see, and not a series of sufferings and experiences
      individual hero. who didn’t dig into the groin.
      I personally want to see films about Soviet people,
      ordinary Soviet people who did this,
      which no Superman had ever dreamed of.
      And this is not some kind of fairy tale, but a real story.
      Let's get a film about the Little Earth, about the Caucasus.
      And the battles in Europe, about which they didn’t particularly talk about in Soviet times.
      And each film can be shot as a blockbuster about Superman.
      Only this Superman, born here, studied here and he is real.

      You live in vain in Russia. It’s much easier to go watch movies where the villain appears from the first second of appearing on the screen. There it is clear why he is a villain. The muzzle of the face, the ugly smile of the degenerate will tell you that this type will kill a lot, and will threaten the lives of the inhabitants of the whole Earth. The main character, on the contrary, will be mercilessly beaten for 90% of the time, but will find the strength in himself, despite the fact that he has lost his legs, arms, scrotum, head and everything else, he will win in the last seconds of this heroic story.

      You know, lately I have been LATING with PLEASURE to watch THEM crocodiles, Aliens, Martians and unicorns devour them. And I do not care, they are heroes or criminals. So tired of these Hollywood monotonous crafts. There is no passage from this trash. It’s a pity that our distributors buy all this rubbish there too much.
  45. +1
    7 May 2018 13: 54
    To me personally, after playing the role of the arm bracket, this artist and director became unpleasant to many. So say my colleagues.
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      8 May 2018 02: 11
      Quote: midshipman
      To me personally, after playing the role of the arm bracket, this artist and director became unpleasant to many. So say my colleagues.

      Is this not a manifestation of TALENT? Peerless game. It’s hard to even call this a game. This is the living of the life of your character. This is not given to everyone.
  46. 0
    7 May 2018 14: 19
    I fully support Khabensky. The film he made was not entertaining. And if a person who comes to the cinema cannot read the description of the film, and does not know how comedy differs from drama, then this is his problem. There are plenty of entertaining films at the box office, for lovers of popcorn pouring into their jaws and pouring soda. But this does not mean that all films should be just that.
  47. 0
    7 May 2018 14: 36
    Quote: tchoni
    And everyone will go to Hollywood films, as it was during the Soviet era, when in order to watch Rambo's First Blood, a neighbor in a video recorder with a nasty translation ran away from party meetings.

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    Since the year 1998, I haven’t really been following Hollywood products, this can be "fed up" for three years. And now I am reviewing normal good films, our comedies or dramas.
  48. 0
    7 May 2018 21: 55
    Quote: ROSS 42
    The degradation of Russian cinema, embarked on commercial and domestic directing and production, attracted an audience with buckets of popcorn into the halls. And this speaks of her high intelligence. We have already come to enthusiastic recitations to the music, it remains to “rise and rise” to a state where chewing singers and readers will admire, and then artists who send natural necessities in scenes, in stereo sound and with aromas ...

    Enough of you, there are very, very good paintings, Russian. There, where the beauty of the soul rises high, only sorry, ladies and gentlemen, THIS WILL BE OUT.
  49. +1
    7 May 2018 22: 12
    Quote: DEZINTO
    By the way, yes. By the way, I’ve been watching Soviet cinema for the second month, and it’s interesting and touching, and it became so curious how much I haven’t seen a suitable movie from those times!
    And from the Hollywood slag just nauseous already .....

    In general, I don’t know what all the boron cheese with Khabensky and aunts are about, but I’ll try to see.

    No need to juggle, dear. The best Soviet and Russian films are taken for the soul, the best Hollywood films excite the mind and stimulate the imagination. Diamonds are rare in rocks, where, al in Yakutia, al in Trasvaal.
  50. 0
    7 May 2018 23: 21
    Cinema is, first of all, light! And in the light, especially in the dark, different animals flies and with intelligence, and without it. So, you will not please everyone! As in the literature: there is, fiction, but there is serious literature. The reader has the right to choose in accordance with his intellectual requests.
  51. 0
    8 May 2018 00: 56
    How many scum surround us. This is how you live and don’t know that this neighbor is a moral race who likes to sprinkle manure from his pot on the country in which he lives. People with whom he works and communicates. How all sorts of “Abrams” came out and mocked the human tragedy. They are in a hurry to confuse those who are trying to convey all the pain and horror of the events that took place. Pigs!
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