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Powerful and reliable. Published test shots of the Uran-9 complex

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TV channel Star He posted a video on YouTube that captures the fragments of tests of multifunctional combat complexes "Uran-9".




The video shows the work of the ground drone in various weather and geographical conditions. The robotic complex performs many combat missions: overcomes obstacles, shoots at specified targets, protects military targets.

“Uranus-9” is a multifunctional complex of intelligence and fire support units on the battlefield. It was created to protect personnel, removing it from the enemy’s fire, ”the commentary to the video says.



The twelve-ton radio-controlled machine is equipped with a PKTM machine gun, an automatic 30A2 XM gun and a Bumblebee M flamethrower.

Recall, in addition to the shock version, the company "766 UPTK" created on a similar basis, the robot-engineer "Uran-6" and the robot-fire "Uran-14". The combat equipment of this family was used in Syria, including during the mine clearance of Palmyra freed from terrorists.
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  1. senima56
    senima56 6 May 2018 19: 05
    +7
    At Terminator-2, containers with anti-tank systems are “covered” with armor shields (unlike the first “Terminator”). Why are they open here? After all, any bullet and .....
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 May 2018 19: 09
      +12
      Well, the people who control the “Terminator” are inside, but not on the “Uranus.” Why is it comforting. Yes, and these are more experienced cars, not serial ones.
      Quote: senima56
      At Terminator-2, containers with anti-tank systems are “covered” with armor shields (unlike the first “Terminator”). Why are they open here? After all, any bullet and .....
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 6 May 2018 19: 18
        +10
        As I understand it, Uranus-9 is radio-controlled, but what if I intercept control? But this is a joke, you can only take control of an American UAV. Seriously, you can drown.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 6 May 2018 19: 23
          +3
          Try it. Select the remote control. Although you are partially right, the radio control is slippery. Not to intercept, but to put a very powerful signal suppression.
          1. Hire
            Hire 6 May 2018 19: 37
            +13
            I think it makes sense to discuss, having received more information.
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 29
              +1
              Where is the overview from the flanks, from the rear .. is there one monitor and all? I won’t even hide from the RPG, I just wait for it to slip through and put a grenade in his side .. or in the stern .. And from the “cookie” from the top floor , I’ll blow him all the optics and “bumblebees” in the trash..in a clean field, he will get to the ATGM for 3-4 km .. and this is the whole layout! Let's ship the first rank, and missiles..and let Ukrvoenprom deal with such robots , they are notably successful !!! We have Americans with a fucking army in the yard, and we are sculpting robots who will live on the battlefield for a couple of minutes, and even less in the city !!!
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 May 2018 20: 08
            +3
            Quote: 210ox
            You are partially right - radio control is a slippery thing. You don’t intercept it, but put very powerful signal suppression.

            I am sure the developers have foreseen such a danger. How they eliminated it or minimized it remains to guess, but the bottom line is that Uranus-9 will save many lives.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 6 May 2018 22: 19
              0
              How they solved the problem with jamming communications is understandable. As well as in advanced UAVs - in case of loss of communication with the base, the UAV automatically returns to the starting point (or where it was programmed).
              In such a colossus you can push a quite powerful computer. So it will simply return along its route.
              That's when artificial intelligence will be advanced enough to independently find goals and distinguish friends from enemies, infantry and the truth will become very difficult to survive in battle.
              1. PN
                PN 6 May 2018 22: 46
                0
                A powerful computer is not enough, you need good software, and with this we do not have much.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 6 May 2018 22: 47
                  +4
                  Quote: PN
                  A powerful computer is not enough, you need good software, and with this we do not have much.

                  But with hacking someone else's everything is just fine!
                  And what's so difficult to fix the route with the equipment, and then draw it back along it? The main thing here is sensitive sensors (gyroscopes for turning angles and inertia for acceleration-braking)
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 6 May 2018 23: 02
                  +5
                  With military computers and software, everything is in order.
                3. ghby
                  ghby 7 May 2018 04: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: PN
                  A powerful computer is not enough, you need good software, and with this we do not have much.

                  You are wrong. We always had a good time with.
                4. KCA
                  KCA 7 May 2018 08: 36
                  +2
                  Who does not really have software? Remember the “Buran” which made everyone crap during landing, decided itself that the crosswind was too strong, changed the trajectory itself, sat down with a minimum deviation from the center of the landing strip, which even among pilots is considered a score of 5 points, and how many years ago? Then "Elbrus" weighed several tons, our programmers do not work according to ready-made scripts, but under the heading. Yes, still - "Elbrus-64" was the first real 64-bit computer, Intel was able to realize 64 calculations only after more than 20 years, Sun before, they just used the development of the MCST
                5. bk316
                  bk316 7 May 2018 18: 08
                  +3
                  A powerful computer is not enough, you need good software, and with this we do not have much.

                  This is new! It turns out that with iron everything is fine with us with software badly.
                  Tell the old e for that ... and the programmer. (joke) And yet what did you mean?
              2. Yarhann
                Yarhann 6 May 2018 22: 46
                +1
                the task of distinguishing friends from enemies is solved simply and now - the task is to destroy certain targets (two-legged warm-blooded or equipment) in a certain square or sector - that’s all.
                This machine is already able to find and select targets such as human armored vehicles, etc. The on-board navigation system is also available. Here, AI is unnecessary. AI will be needed when such vehicles will independently enter the patrol of border areas and so on, that is, where the reconnaissance mission will be conducted, while the vehicle will decide whether to fire at the intruder or not. But in such missions, it is easiest to divide the powers between the operator and the machine - the operator sets the path and allows the opening of fire and the machine performs the rest of the work - following the route, overcoming obstacles, searching for and selecting targets.
                1. Pollux
                  Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Yarhann
                  the task is to destroy certain targets (two-legged warm-blooded or equipment) in a certain square or sector - that’s all.

                  That's it, when we send the car to the attack, we know for sure that there are no voooon in those trenches.
                2. Marconi41
                  Marconi41 7 May 2018 14: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Yarhann
                  the task of distinguishing friends from enemies is solved simply and now - the task is to destroy certain targets (two-legged warm-blooded or equipment) in a certain square or sector - that’s all.


                  Unlucky the farmer with children on a tractor to be on the other side of the border. Oh well.
                3. igorka357
                  igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 14
                  0
                  Absolute nonsense ... you want to say that this machine should operate without the support of infantry? Well, they still don’t know how cars can .. this box will live in the city for about five minutes, the grenade launcher will not even hide from the rear, and the operator will not see it completely ... Well, on the field, they’ll slam it into it for about four kilometers, and that’s all ... delirium-delirium ... for the time being, a man on the battlefield cannot be replaced !!!
                  1. Yarhann
                    Yarhann 12 May 2018 19: 34
                    -1
                    utter nonsense - the machine has on board the technical means of detecting bipeds and equipment; moreover, when the machine is not alone, it can work on the same information field with other machines, as a result, no person or unit can even raise his head because he will immediately fly in between the eyes. Technique and technique to do everything faster and better than a person.
                    A person is very weak in terms of his biological means of detection - I mean the eyes - smoke, bright light, a flash or the dark of the day reduce his obvious ability to detect something, unlike a machine that works through several detection channels.
              3. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 7 May 2018 09: 07
                0
                Quote: Shurik70
                independently find goals and distinguish friends from enemies,

                The "Military Acceptance" just claimed the ability to recognize "friend or foe" so I think everything will be without AI
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 15
                  0
                  Well and how, on a yellow bandage on a sleeve?
              4. igorka357
                igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 10
                0
                Then probably there will already be no infantry, but there will be an infantry operator-operator ... 10 km from the battle ... and even a hundred ... and indeed, skynet when it will flood us all, and that's all ... laughing
            2. okko077
              okko077 7 May 2018 01: 45
              +5
              The control operator is located in an armored kung on the basis of KAMAZ, the maximum control range is 3 km ....? The robot discovers that the operator makes a decision based on this information ... Without opposition, in rough terrain ...
              What kind of crap technical device is this and what the hell is it for ... The operator’s life is under threat, is he actually on the battlefield ???
              It is not necessary for nothing ... Better than a simple UAV issuing the coordinates of the target in real time and the associated weapons ...
              Useless, stupid device for cutting dough and for very, very stupid fighters ....
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 18
                0
                It’s true that from three km a technically advanced opponent will determine the channel and put it in a kung ... either a projectile or a mine ... 3 km nowadays ... pff, one hundred percent hit !!! Boom, no operator, no kung, no robot ! Well, not for cleaning auls and crumbling houses in the Caucasus will do!
            3. igorka357
              igorka357 7 May 2018 16: 08
              0
              So let's be objective, Andrei, that is, we can intercept and land modern aerial UAVs, and SKR too .. wink and they don’t have our ground-based robot ... well, what kind of nonsense is that ...? Do you think America that bends half the world doesn’t matter how politically, militarily, whether such a stupid country ... excuse me, not to see it if they were so stupid !!!!
          3. Monarchist
            Monarchist 6 May 2018 20: 30
            +4
            The fact of the matter is that in combat conditions, “Uran9” has not yet been tested and it is not known how it will behave. It is radio-controlled, but what control radius is not known, the radio wave can be subject to a lot of interference. For example, comrade OKV, you have to remember on the radio you tried to listen to the “voices” and you couldn’t make out the words with a bang, sometimes it’s written in hospitals that using cell phones can cause ....
            Imagine a situation: in a radio battle, the wave “stumbled” about the presence and Uranus 9 can stop, and if you deliberately turn on the jammer, where is the guarantee that he will only stop, and if he mixes up the teams and shandarahnet? Or another option: for some reason the operator cannot see the entire field and there will be sections where Uranus will not be able to work. I am rather skeptical of various remote “little things-handles” in the near future, robots will not be able to replace people with TVDs, and here robots can help to solve some local problems.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 6 May 2018 21: 04
              +3
              Vyacheslav hi The control system there is probably so to say “digital”. The commands are pulses of different duration, duty cycle, frequency .. It's all quite simple and complicated at the same time. Pulse modulation is wide. Of course the command system is classified and it’s not easy to knock down. There is certainly duplication and blocking .. Of course, everything is still experimental, but it’s a very necessary and promising business.
              Quote: Monarchist
              The fact of the matter is that in combat conditions, “Uran9” has not yet been tested and it is not known how it will behave. It is radio-controlled, but what control radius is not known, the radio wave can be subject to a lot of interference. For example, comrade OKV, you have to remember on the radio you tried to listen to the “voices” and you couldn’t make out the words with a bang, sometimes it’s written in hospitals that using cell phones can cause ....
              Imagine a situation: in a radio battle, the wave “stumbled” about the presence and Uranus 9 can stop, and if you deliberately turn on the jammer, where is the guarantee that he will only stop, and if he mixes up the teams and shandarahnet? Or another option: for some reason the operator cannot see the entire field and there will be sections where Uranus will not be able to work. I am rather skeptical of various remote “little things-handles” in the near future, robots will not be able to replace people with TVDs, and here robots can help to solve some local problems.
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 6 May 2018 21: 49
                -1
                Control of robotic weapons should be duplicated via radio channels, the possibility of light-cable control, programmable memory for actions and return to the original. Sensors for the movement of objects, a thermal imager, acoustic and a lot of things for autonomous actions, to prepare for complete robotics ... The main practice in battle, so more real requirements will come up ... A hitch of unprotected weapons is immediately evident, and the first test should be a large-caliber shelling machine gun. at all points, from tracks to attachments and weapons, for the robot will be sent to the "hell" ...
              2. Solomon Kane
                Solomon Kane 6 May 2018 22: 46
                +3
                Dmitry! hi Of course, in this complex everything has been worked out, including loss of communication, telemetry and even the death of the operator, the system goes into autonomous control mode, with the inclusion of an algorithm for calculating the tasks set.
                In fact, this robot with a life cycle on the battlefield of 5-10 minutes. depending on the intensity of the fire, and during this time it is possible to withdraw from the shelling sector spotters, wounded, etc.
                The effect is designed for a lightning flurry of fire and confusion of the enemy, and these are precious minutes and dozens of saved lives .....
            2. SSR
              SSR 6 May 2018 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Monarchist
              I am rather skeptical of various remote “little things-handles” in the near future, robots will not be able to replace people with TVDs, and here robots can help to solve some local problems.

              + the situation has changed on the theater of operations and what happens, the operator should be informed that - "and then everything is girlfriend", in general, we will observe.
            3. poquello
              poquello 6 May 2018 22: 06
              +1
              Quote: Monarchist
              The fact of the matter is that in combat conditions “Uran9” has not yet been tested

              and the broads in Syria from the mountain than smoked a year ago somewhere?
            4. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 6 May 2018 22: 33
              +2
              Remote-controlled combat vehicles of the Uranus family were tested in Syria, said Deputy Defense Minister for Arms Yuri Borisov on May 5, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reports.

              In Syria, the Uran-6 self-propelled remotely-controlled armored mine clearing vehicle and the Uran-9 reconnaissance-strike complex were tested in combat. Cars “showed their capabilities well,” Borisov said.

              Uranus-6 had previously been tested in combat by participating in the clearing of farmland in Chechnya. Impact "Uranus-9", armed with a machine gun, 30-mm automatic cannon, as well as, if necessary, anti-tank missiles, MANPADS, a jet flamethrower or automatic grenade launcher, passed its first test in real conditions. At the same time, they plan to adopt the complex before the end of the year.

              I am rather skeptical about the various remote "little things-handles"

              Such a little thing-dryuchka from November 17, 1970 to September 14, 1971. worked on the moon. It must be believed, Dear, by virtue of Russian (Soviet) science.
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 7 May 2018 08: 13
                0
                Quote: Solomon Kane
                Such a little thing-dryuchka from November 17, 1970 to September 14, 1971. worked on the moon. It must be believed, Dear, by virtue of Russian (Soviet) science.

                Well, on the Moon for the Lunokhods there was no opposition on the part of the enemy, one could say that there were ideal conditions for remote control. Here we can talk about combat use in the conditions of the operation of enemy "jammers" and attempts to seize control. And the question is how will optics behave? You can use a laser, or just banality - splatter the camera with dirt.
            5. spectr
              spectr 7 May 2018 11: 44
              0
              In an Internet it is indicated that the maximum control range for one is 4 km, for a group of 4 cars is 6 km.
        2. URAL72
          URAL72 6 May 2018 19: 57
          +7
          Robotics is promising, but how are targets detected and identified? An operator through optics? Then they will quickly burn him in battle. But the sapper / fireman, this is the case. We also need a conveyor for the transportation of ammunition and the evacuation of the wounded. Many of the boys could not be pulled out, for example, in 2015 near Maryinka, whom the Ukrainians finished off, and who are now in the dungeons.
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 May 2018 22: 10
            0
            Quote: URAL72
            An operator through optics?

            it is unlikely that identification has long been on a digital level
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 6 May 2018 22: 58
              +1
              Uranus -9 reconnaissance-strike complexalready works with Ratnik-2, the identification system of “friend or foe” is brought to mind, including a personal identification beacon that works even after nuclear weapons and is resistant to electromagnetic radiation.
              So Uranus will not shoot at his own.
              1. Pollux
                Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 46
                +1
                Quote: Solomon Kane
                So Uranus will not shoot at his own.

                I want to remind you that friendly fire is a massive phenomenon and without any artificial intelligence.
          2. Yarhann
            Yarhann 6 May 2018 22: 37
            -1
            there everything is completely automated on board there are various motion sensors, a thermal imager and so on - the on-board computer selects the goals in the radio command version, the operator only presses the trigger, the robot will do everything fully automatic - but in my opinion this application violates some kind of convention on robotics.
            1. KCA
              KCA 8 May 2018 05: 24
              +1
              Isaac Asimov came up with 3 laws of robotics, there is no applicable law at the moment, fully automatic machine-gun turrets are on the protection of mines with strategic missiles for about thirty years, which the operator only inspects, they open fire without external participation
              1. Yarhann
                Yarhann 12 May 2018 19: 37
                -1
                Well, so the area near the mines is already closed to people), for example, in Israel, such cars patrol the perimeters around the airfields that it lacks - the main task of this robot is to detect the intruder and the operator gives permission to open fire or what other measures.
        3. Yarhann
          Yarhann 6 May 2018 22: 31
          -1
          this machine is able to work in a fully robotic mode - everything you need is on board from the sensors, ending with the on-board computer and software.
        4. brr1
          brr1 6 May 2018 22: 32
          +6

          In case of loss of control, he will begin to wet all leather critters in the zone of visibility, and at the end he will kill himself.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 07
            -2
            In case of loss of control, he will begin to wet all leather critters in the zone of visibility, and at the end he will kill himself.

            Will he kill himself with a leather knife?
            It is designed to wet all leather critters - those who don’t have a friend or foe sensor.
        5. Yarhann
          Yarhann 6 May 2018 22: 35
          -1
          And in terms of jamming - this is the point - such a technique works at a very small distance, unlike UAVs, and therefore the technical ability to muffle the receiver is very small - yes, it is possible with the narrow antenna to mute the receiver on the machine, but again it’s at a short distance and consider The antenna complex should be in direct line of sight to the target. And the problem is that as soon as such powerful systems of directional electronic warfare appear, then there will be means of their destruction by radio emission.
        6. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 6 May 2018 23: 37
          0
          Quote: MyVrach
          As I understand it, Uranus-9 is radio-controlled, but what if I intercept control? But this is a joke, you can only take control of an American UAV. Seriously, you can drown.

          Shame on you - how much the Russians went down with a market economy. Man is the enemy of man. At this time, our natural and true enemies, pin-dos, celebrate victory. Shame - wake up, people!
        7. RelictEmpire
          RelictEmpire 7 May 2018 09: 04
          0
          Are you sure that when the control signal is suppressed, the robot just stops? He can switch to an autonomous program, for example ... And there you can invent anything you want. Return to base or something ...
      2. Bell pepper
        Bell pepper 6 May 2018 21: 46
        +2
        Has no analogues, x?

        1. Bell pepper
          Bell pepper 6 May 2018 22: 19
          +1


          another car! need to remake on RC
        2. svp67
          svp67 6 May 2018 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: Bulgarian Pepper
          Has no analogues, x?

          T-72, MTLB ... and T-26 do not want to remember ...


      3. svp67
        svp67 6 May 2018 22: 35
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        Why comfort

        Judging by the video, it is understood that they will play the role of tanks, that is, cover their infantry with their armor, without protection, that ATGMs and Bumblebees can be dangerous for their own infantry.
      4. senima56
        senima56 7 May 2018 00: 00
        0
        ... any bullet and .... "ATGM missile disabled!" That's what I meant! And not that it will explode and destroy the complex itself!
    2. Maz
      Maz 6 May 2018 19: 36
      +4
      The main thing is not to sell to the Chinese :)
    3. Pollux
      Pollux 6 May 2018 21: 27
      0
      Quote: senima56
      At Terminator-2, containers with anti-tank systems are “covered” with armor shields (unlike the first “Terminator”). Why are they open here? After all, any bullet and .....

      Most likely, containers with anti-tank systems are an optional feature, they will go into a series without them, or, most likely, not at all.
    4. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 6 May 2018 22: 48
      +3
      Russia is a country of Ghost. It has: pin-dos, Jews, Indians, Geyropeytsy, Chinese and everyone else who is not lazy. With a government of liberals, this is the norm. Well done, that voted for the main liberal - Putin. request
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 6 May 2018 23: 11
        0
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Russia is a country of Ghost. It has: pin-dos, Jews, Indians, Geyropeytsy, Chinese and everyone else who is not lazy. With a government of liberals, this is the norm. Well done, that voted for the main liberal - Putin. request


        1. Mestny
          Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 10
          0
          You write yourself, answer yourself.
          Beauty.
          Zagrudininets?
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 7 May 2018 01: 52
            0
            Quote: Mestny
            Zagrudininets?

            Yes, although more precisely - a Stalinist. Country of fools. Are you the next Putin?
            However, what am I talking about? I remember you. )
  2. 210ox
    210ox 6 May 2018 19: 07
    +5
    There would be more such cars in our army. People must be protected.
  3. svp67
    svp67 6 May 2018 19: 19
    +2
    A drone, but stuck together as if the crew was sitting there. "Trial pebble", I think that the following will already be different
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 May 2018 19: 27
      +4
      I don’t agree. Take a close look at the dimensions of the hull (and there the engine, transmission, fuel, control system) and the combat module. The dimensions of the hull are quite compact. Yes, and in the film there are fighters nearby.
      Quote: svp67
      A drone, but stuck together as if the crew was sitting there. "Trial pebble", I think that the following will already be different
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 May 2018 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        Case dimensions are quite compact.

        You might think that these are not ...



        You just look where and how the monitoring devices are located, for the same road. I’ll say right away that the VPD is weakened there and it will still be flooded with “dolphins”. But there, and so they are needed, if a person sits in the building, for the BPT they could be located in another place and in another
        1. 210ox
          210ox 6 May 2018 19: 44
          +3
          Well, so this is a descendant of the Tiger ... Al Panther ..... wassat Just chopped up .. And about the appliances .. The complex of sights from above, and what’s on the front sheet .. It’s interesting to listen to the operator. And then we are guessing on the coffee grounds.
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: 210ox
          Case dimensions are quite compact.

          You might think that these are not ...



          You just look where and how the monitoring devices are located, for the same road. I’ll say right away that the VPD is weakened there and it will still be flooded with “dolphins”. But there, and so they are needed, if a person sits in the building, for the BPT they could be located in another place and in another
          1. Grits
            Grits 7 May 2018 08: 21
            0
            The Germans created the Wiesel so that it could be parachuted by airborne landing. Because in NATO there were problems with this. Therefore, it turned out more like a "drone"
        2. san4es
          san4es 6 May 2018 20: 25
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: 210ox
          Case dimensions are quite compact.

          You might think that these are not ...

          hi ... Wedges good - "funny" cars.

          ... The Germans (NATO) have a base for the robot, but they can’t do it request ... Rheinmetall is apparently not mature.
          1. ratfly
            ratfly 6 May 2018 20: 46
            +2
            Each soldier has an individual wedge heel?
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 6 May 2018 19: 29
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      A drone, but stuck together as if the crew was sitting there. "Trial pebble", I think that the following will already be different

      classic layout, what did you want to see then?
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 May 2018 22: 41
        0
        Quote: MadCat
        classic layout, what did you want to see then?

        The layout is classic UNDER HUMAN, and this is an UAV. The nose can be, and it was necessary to do a little differently
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          1. svp67
            svp67 7 May 2018 09: 50
            +2
            Quote: MadCat
            and where are the people, you should take into account the dimensions.

            And despite the fact that the viewing devices are made for HUMAN, and not for electronic devices ... So I ask, why, is this done?
            Do you see the difference between these two Uranus-9?


            I will say more that with such a "bullet collector", this machine will not pass the test of real shelling.

            One good line is enough to deprive the "mechanic" of the opportunity to observe.
            And the "Fire" button on the monitor screen, so generally upwards "perfection".
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 7 May 2018 17: 17
              +1
              Well, maybe it's a product specifically for the parade? and there quite a real mechanical driver sits ..))) By the type of Japanese kamikaze ..
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 May 2018 20: 13
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      A drone, but stuck together as if the crew was sitting there.

      The first remotely controlled tanks, or, as they were called, teletanks, appeared in the Soviet Union in the late 20s and early 30s. At different times, designers of the Special Technical Bureau for Special-Purpose Military Inventions, NII-20, and the All-Union State Institute of Telemechanics and Communications worked on their development.
      In the years 1929-1930. passed the tests of the French tank Renault FT, which was controlled using signals transmitted by cable. A year later, the necessary equipment was installed on a Soviet-made T-18 tank. Moreover, the new teletank was already radio-controlled. And although its maximum speed was only 4 km / h, a teletank without a crew could move forward, to the sides and stop at the command of the operator
      The next TT-18 model had wider capabilities: it maneuvered better, could turn off the engine, change speed, detonate a transported mine, release a smoke screen or poisonous gases. True, it was possible to control a teletank only at a distance of several hundred meters to one kilometer, and that was only under favorable conditions. In addition, due to the relatively small mass and high center of gravity, even a small obstacle under the tracks turned the tank to the side, making remote control difficult.
      As an alternative, the TT-26 and TT-TU TV tanks, based on the T-26 tank, were launched. With the support of control tanks, robotic tanks could make their way through wire fences, bring a powerful mine in an armored box to the enemy’s fortified point, drop it and drive off to a safe distance before a timed fuse detonated.

      The armored vehicles also included a machine gun, a flamethrower, equipment for installing a smoke screen and the use of chemical weapons. There was also a charge of self-destruction - in case the secret vehicle would be in danger of being captured by the enemy. The crew of the control tank was also instructed in such a situation to shoot a teletank from a gun.
      In 1939, the German company Borgvard launched the first German remotely controlled robot tank under the code designation B-IV (Sd.Kfz.301). According to some reports, during the Second World War, about a thousand B-IVs were collected at German plants. They were supposed to be used to lay passages in minefields and destroy enemy fortifications. But subsequently, the main task of tracked vehicles without a crew was the fight against enemy tanks.


      The concept of a controlled robot, as you see, is far from new. hi
  4. evil partisan
    evil partisan 6 May 2018 19: 22
    +4
    A serious unit.
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 6 May 2018 19: 25
    +1
    Listen, and if something closes there, this shaytan machine will not start fucking in its own way?
    1. san4es
      san4es 6 May 2018 20: 07
      +2
      Quote: taiga2018
      ... this shaitan-machine will not start fucking in its own way?


      1. Dikson
        Dikson 7 May 2018 17: 28
        0
        Well, for example, wet snow? So sticky, spring .. - yes, on these beautiful lenses .. And then - cement dust and earth from tears .. soot from burnt rubber ...?
        1. san4es
          san4es 7 May 2018 17: 50
          0
          Quote: Dikson
          Well, for example, wet snow? So sticky, spring .. - yes, on these beautiful lenses .. And then - cement dust and earth from tears .. soot from burnt rubber ...?

          hi ... On armored vehicles, a hydropneumatic cleaning system for observation devices (aiming) is used. It should be similar on Uranus ... Everything is thought out there, for sure.
    2. Ivan Tarava
      Ivan Tarava 6 May 2018 20: 46
      +1
      Man controls it. The gun on the wall, too, as we know, sometimes shoots.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 May 2018 19: 28
    +4
    Khoroly apparatus. Able to save the lives of our fighters. I imagine an attack accompanied by such "guys" ... Given their small size and mobility ... In short, this is a new tactical factor on the battlefield. Yes, one that may be the key ...
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 6 May 2018 20: 45
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Able to save the lives of our fighters.

      It is doubtful, especially as a fire support like Uranus-9.
      Weak armor makes it vulnerable even to a heavy machine gun or sniper rifle with armor-piercing ammunition.
      The high cost, which is comparable to the T-72 type Terminator on the battlefield, will make the machine a priority and an easy target.
      The presence of practically continuous control signals will allow the enemy to identify a Uranus-type vehicle at a range of tens of kilometers with electronic intelligence equipment, determine coordinates and cover with mortars or MLRS.
      It would be much more efficient to upgrade old T-72s for robotic systems with remote control, which is much cheaper, and survivability is several times higher.
  7. Abram
    Abram 6 May 2018 19: 30
    +3
    For some reason I remembered "Warhammer 40000" who is not in the subject, it's fantastic. There, soldiers with disabilities, without arms, without legs, were "packed" in robots for further service to the Emperor. Suddenly, in this, too, "samovar" sits? smile
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 May 2018 19: 44
      +3
      Well, this was done only with the paratroopers (and they are already, ahem, not really people in the framework of the universe) and then with the well-deserved ...
      And then - why would anyone sit in it? The whole joke is just in remote control)))
      So if you compare with the 40000 warhammer, then our "uraniums" are Centuria Cybernetics machines from the Adeptus Mechanicus)))) Glory to Omnissia, as they say!))))))
      1. Abram
        Abram 6 May 2018 20: 25
        0
        Well, you can take control of a remote site - hackers, violate electronic warfare or radiation from a nuclear explosion. and if someone is sitting there, then full autonomy)
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 22
          0
          it’s easy to say to intercept - it’s very, very necessary to try here - there the Iranians dodged so as to deceive the American drone. Well, if a nuclear explosion - then it will not be particularly necessary to control anything remotely.
          Well, the salt is precisely in the fact that if this unit is processed for scrap, then we will lose only the piece of iron, and people will not die. Keep in mind that in the same Warhammer people survived an apocalypse of galactic proportions, two at once, one after another, from which many technologies were simply lost and they have to be either restored with an incredible creak or searched among the ruins of antiquity. Grimdark, however)))
  8. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 6 May 2018 19: 31
    +2
    Finally, the electronic components are completely domestic production. Now it’s sure that it won’t short-circuit, short-circuit, and can be easily repaired, if that. Now we are waiting for domestic AI and you can go into battle! Still the silhouette is more pristine ...
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 6 May 2018 19: 45
      +5
      It’s already scary after your comment ... It’s better not to talk about the domestic electronic base ... How about the dead ...
      I remembered for some reason AvtoVAZ with a successful electrician ... Take a look at almost every first car of this plant problems with electrics ... Immediately after that, for some reason I remembered Roscosmos, who realized that it wasn’t just starting a lottery ... And you have to but in most cases, sadness from electronics and its assassin’s assembly ...
      They will repair it well ... I don’t know about the maintainability of creations from Roscosmos, but in AvtoVAZ’s masterpieces you can get it everywhere with your hands ...
      As for the more prismatic silhouette ... Probably I do not agree with the review, it is getting worse ... or it will be necessary to attach a re-scope. repeat
      1. grandson of Perun
        grandson of Perun 6 May 2018 22: 03
        +4
        You obviously have a late ignition lol And with electronics and with cars, the situation is now incomparably better than it was in the 90s and early 2000s. Industry is no longer falling apart, but rather being developed. By the way, pay attention - clowns from television "entertainments" have already been tricked with ridiculing the whole Russian wink
        1. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 6 May 2018 22: 13
          +1
          I have a later ignition on my VAZ 2114 ... laughing
          And about what the zomboyaschik says and other things, including the Internet, this is just a separate topic ... As for cars, the big question is to look at sites where they did not try to write professionally about cars?
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: Alex2048
            I have a later ignition on my VAZ 2114 ...

            Well, then you are far behind time, I’ll tell you - my dad moved from 2114 to a grant at first, and then to Vesta - each following is much better than the previous one.
            And yes - do not listen and do not watch what they say and show according to the "zombie man" (I personally have been living without it for 13 years already and feel great), look at the real changes - you will see everything for yourself)))
            1. Aleks2048
              Aleks2048 6 May 2018 23: 10
              +1
              I don’t know ... I don’t know ... I liked the four priors more ... What does the West have in addition to the nameplate?
              But oh well ...
              1. Pollux
                Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 49
                +1
                Quote: Alex2048
                What is in the West domestic except for the nameplate?

                The question is not undeniable, but what about the domestic Boeing except the nameplate?
              2. Albert1988
                Albert1988 6 May 2018 23: 59
                0
                Quote: Alex2048
                then in the West of the domestic except the nameplate?

                So all the info is open and open for a long time ...
                Although why are you surprised - and your 14th has not been a VAZ for a long time, because Renault-Nissan is ...
              3. Grits
                Grits 7 May 2018 08: 46
                0
                Pancake. Lucky same connoisseurs of AvtoVAZ. I live in Primorye. And, to be honest, I don’t know how to distinguish Vista from Grants. Or maybe I didn’t see them at all ....
                1. bk316
                  bk316 7 May 2018 18: 27
                  +4
                  I live in Primorye. And, to be honest, I don’t know how to distinguish Vista from Grants.

                  You are either Vista and West. Vista is just a Toyota, so if you from Primorye should know her. SHTIRLITS HAS NEVER BEEN SO CLOSE TO FAILURE?
          2. grandson of Perun
            grandson of Perun 6 May 2018 23: 40
            +1
            Quote: Alex2048
            I have a later ignition on my VAZ 2114 ...

            Is it possible that the carburetor of the first lots still went before 2005? belay
            Then you have confirmed my words that:
            1. You have a very outdated idea of ​​the VAZ, because the release of the oldest of the currently produced models, Kalina, began after 2005
            2. The Samara-2 family is not an indicator, because it is a necessary measure to modernize and extend the production of the Samara family that is already obsolete by the end of the 90s
            3. a necessary measure because of the consequences of the "liberal reforms" of the 90s (the targeted destruction of our industry, including electronic)
            4. An information war was fought against our auto industry, the false stereotypes of which you picked up on the forums and now repeat here
            Tell us better what bad Vesta with X-Ray, amuse the people ... wink
            PS: Still 2105 would have remembered, which supposedly produced 50 years laughing
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 7 May 2018 00: 00
              0
              Quote: Perun's grandson
              Tell us better what bad Vesta with X-Ray, amuse the people ...

              Agas - let him tell - listen))))
            2. bk316
              bk316 7 May 2018 18: 36
              +4
              Really still carburetor from the first batches until 2005 went to

              I think that he’s just lying, you confuse:
              VAZ 2114 was not produced with a carburetor at all (engines 2111 21114 11183 21124 21126 - all injection)
              Eights, nines, 114 - what just did not ride .....
              And now I would ride - I feel sorry for myself.
  9. DeusExMachina
    DeusExMachina 6 May 2018 19: 33
    +4
    This is the future.
  10. LMN
    LMN 6 May 2018 19: 38
    +5
    I wonder what the cost is.
    1. Ivan Tarava
      Ivan Tarava 6 May 2018 20: 43
      +3
      Not more expensive than a soldier’s life.
      1. LMN
        LMN 6 May 2018 21: 09
        +5
        Quote: Ivan Tarava
        Not more expensive than a soldier’s life.

        I agree with you. good
        But apparently my mistake was (not the first time already), not to paint my thoughts in detail request

        What am I talking about the cost ... lately, almost every week we enjoy some new weapons, modernization, etc. This is all great and excellent. good
        But how many of these our latest developments are regularly armed with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? Not individual instances. How many lives of soldiers does this equipment take if it is put into the army in the number of "10" pieces?
        And I think that one of the reasons is economic. We really at the moment can’t master all of our wonderful (I'm without irony) technology.
        Therefore, for some reason, I immediately thought about the cost of this product. Because in current realities, the probability of this equipment appearing in the troops directly depends on its cost.
        That's actually what I wanted to say hi
        1. grandson of Perun
          grandson of Perun 6 May 2018 22: 07
          +1
          If 10 pieces - it really will be expensive. And if 1000 is already much cheaper: the cost of R&D in the cost of each robot will be 100 times less.
      2. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 6 May 2018 21: 10
        +1
        Or maybe more? The economy in war is no less important than tactics and strategy. In general, the war, as it were, was not about the institution of noble maidens ... Therefore, it is impossible to ignore the question of the price tag on the life of a soldier. The statement that life is generally priceless is about nothing. What it means is priceless ... it has no price that it costs nothing. The question of the price tag on the life of a fighter is not idle. This question needs a clear answer, not moral convulsions and thoughts. The assertion about the invaluable life of a soldier is not the desire of the state to take responsibility for the harm done, but rather not the desire of some officers to be responsible for the decisions made.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 27
          0
          Well, then we will send you to die on machine guns, with a grenade at the first opportunity - you will understand what is behind the talk about the value of human life ...
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 6 May 2018 23: 19
            +2
            I’ll go right after you, with the rest of the reasoning, leave without weapons and a nogish against the tanks. And it is better somewhere in the northern latitudes of the immense of our homeland. Yes, so that your relatives did not pay a dime for the loss of a breadwinner.
            Maybe then the awareness of the unlimited nature of state money will come down on you and that squandering it under the pretext of priceless life is a crime.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 6 May 2018 23: 57
              0
              Quote: Alex2048
              I’ll go right after you, with the rest of the reasoning, leave without weapons and a nogish against the tanks. And it is better somewhere in the northern latitudes of the immense of our homeland. Yes, so that your relatives did not pay a dime for the loss of a breadwinner.

              So you. in fact, this is what you offer - because uniforms, weapons are all expensive, they require all money, which are "not unlimited" ...

              Quote: Alex2048
              Maybe then the awareness of the unlimited nature of state money will come down on you and that squandering it under the pretext of priceless life is a crime.

              And squandering lives on the pretext of saving money is not a crime? That's all - enough losses for us, we have been fighting - we have only 140 million plus or minus left here, we are not Chinese, who have more mobilization reserves. than the whole population of our country taken together, so let them fight with Kalash with bayonets, but we need to minimize the loss of manpower in a potential conflict ...
              1. Aleks2048
                Aleks2048 7 May 2018 00: 21
                +1
                About that and speech. It's just that the question of the price tag for a soldier is really very subtly interwoven with the price tag for the soulless metal of military equipment. Sorry, but it could not be that, for example, a strategic submarine missile carrier costs less than the lives of all members of his team. Everything has its own price. But in my example, the life of all team members on Judgment Day is cheaper than the successful completion of a combat mission by their ship.
                I agree that the example is from extremes. But it does not say a word about not building a ship because it’s expensive.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 7 May 2018 18: 59
                  0
                  What is it about - if you decide to develop and produce such "radio-controlled cars", then you have found an economic justification for this, at least.
  11. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 6 May 2018 20: 06
    0
    Very problematic machine:

    The Uran-9 machines need to be controlled from a fixed base, and visibility is required between the robots and the control base. This is a big difference between ground and air drones, which, due to flight altitude, can be controlled at a distance of tens or hundreds of kilometers.

    UAVs can also be controlled using satellite communications, because there are no obstacles to communication. But below, on earth, satellite communication is blocked by buildings, trees, mountains, natural obstacles and even leaves on trees.
    In addition, for possible control via satellite, very fast information transfer (first of all, video) or instant data processing is necessary. The question is whether Russian military satellites will be able to provide reliable and fast transmission of such a large amount of data. Another risk is, of course, the possibility of interrupting communications by means of electronic combat of the enemy.
    1. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 6 May 2018 20: 21
      +3
      Why control the Uran-9 machine via satellite ??? It's like scratching your right ear with your left hand. there, between the operator and the machine, it is enough to have a distance of several hundred meters for urban combat. Goggles to put in mtlb and let there lead control through their control stations. Something I do not see the antenna for receiving a satellite signal on Uran-9
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 6 May 2018 20: 46
        0
        Quote: Bad_Santa
        Why control the Uran-9 machine via satellite ??? It's like scratching your right ear with your left hand. there, between the operator and the machine, it is enough to have a distance of several hundred meters for urban combat. Goggles to put in mtlb and let there lead control through their control stations. Something I do not see the antenna for receiving a satellite signal on Uran-9

        I have seen Russian control systems of some objects. They are large enough and bulky. For example,
        The 1D15 device is transported in two packs with a total weight of 60 kg, in the complex a lighter 1D20 device with a weight of 30 kg can be used.
        And this, from all the cases, is a laser illumination device for Krasnopol - an adjustable artillery ammunition of caliber 152 or 155 mm. Already 15 years ago, foreign analogues weighed 10 times less.
        I do not think that the post control Uranus will be small-sized. For him, at least some kind of mobile phone is required, from which the operator will have to observe the control object. So do not expect anything special from him.
        1. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 6 May 2018 21: 18
          +2
          I say the control posts do on lightly armored vehicles. MTLB is a good fit, but all the control equipment can easily fit on its base. the fact is, why do satellite control if the platform will work a few meters from the operator? Yes, in anti-terrorist operations in the Caucasus, you can even control by cable. Are you talking about satellite control
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 6 May 2018 21: 36
          +5
          Do you have an hour of gypsies in your ancestors? Guessing hurts well. What was, what is, what will be the whole truth I will tell. laughing
        3. Mestny
          Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 20
          -1
          Already 15 years ago, foreign analogues weighed 10 times less.

          And which ones? For example.
          1. Bad_santa
            Bad_santa 7 May 2018 07: 41
            0
            IPhone X with the game Pokenon GO. This "journalist and analyst" believes in everything Western just like an African sorcerer idol god of fertility
  12. Awaz
    Awaz 6 May 2018 20: 11
    +3
    these toys still amaze me. I watched a movie from Syria just now, as two tanks and an ARV cleared buildings. On the one hand, yes, they are very close to the positions of the Syrian army and they can be controlled remotely, but the barmaley dug holes there and made embankments that this device simply couldn’t be able to move more or less normally and most likely where the thread fell into the hole . Yes, and the barmaley would have plundered him from two DShK at a time ..
    1. Ivan Tarava
      Ivan Tarava 6 May 2018 20: 41
      +2
      Yes, we all watch Anna's reports. In such cases, shock UAVs should work. Not for nothing that all countries are developing UAVs, and not ground-based remote vehicles. Apparently we have some kind of secret.
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 32
      0
      As practice shows, the pits are an extremely weak obstacle, unless, of course, the car doesn’t hit the gusli in a parallel dug tansha. And then at this machine, if you didn’t notice, the pylons with anti-tank systems and “bumblebees” rise very well and because of the embankment they can just peep out and mock the barmales. But in general it is better to wait for their break-in in the same Syria, for example.
  13. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 20: 15
    +4
    "there are no analogues in the world" as if they wed me when our people say this. It seems that it adds to the karma +50 points to this weapon and then we see how these analogues fall due to birds or roll out from aircraft carriers or they are knocked off the ground it didn’t even stand on this analogue. The main thing is to say that there are no analogues in the world. In every broadcast in every military reception in every replay on TV ...... there are no analogues in the world in the world there are no analogues in the world ... All-weather ... all-inclusive ... super silent
    th ... and then the wreckage and bewilderment.
    1. Eduard petrov
      Eduard petrov 6 May 2018 20: 31
      +2
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      "there are no analogues in the world" as if they wed me when our people say this. It seems that it adds to the karma +50 points to this weapon and then we see how these analogues fall due to birds or roll out from aircraft carriers or they are knocked off the ground it didn’t even stand on this analogue. The main thing is to say that there are no analogues in the world. In every broadcast in every military reception in every replay on TV ...... there are no analogues in the world in the world there are no analogues in the world ... All-weather ... all-inclusive ... super silent
      th ... and then the wreckage and bewilderment.

      Who do you work for, comrade? Salary in dollars, I suppose, are you getting? No one has the right to criticize our weapons! It is the best, reliable and simple! We defeated them all in the world war! And your vaunted M16 wedges in two shots. If on TV they say that it has no analogues, then I see no reason to doubt it. Our developments have gone far from your western ones, which is why you are afraid of us. And you are doing it right! It is enough for Vladimir Putin to press one button and you will be washed away into the ocean. Only he is kind, but that's only for now. Do not tempt us, only you will be worse.
      1. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 20: 38
        +4
        You can see gospodi at once for 50 years. Any criticism, and not even criticism of weapons, but rather our excessive propaganda in the media, you immediately see a salary in dollars and an M16 rifle. Please save this planet from your logic. Read Karamzin that patriotism should not blind .This is for starters.
        1. Eduard petrov
          Eduard petrov 6 May 2018 20: 51
          0
          Quote: Heterocapsa
          You can see gospodi at once for 50 years. Any criticism, and not even criticism of weapons, but rather our excessive propaganda in the media, you immediately see a salary in dollars and an M16 rifle. Please save this planet from your logic. Read Karamzin that patriotism should not blind .This is for starters.

          If you criticize, then you doubt it! A true patriot must believe what his rulers tell him. And to sow doubts about Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin can only be an agent of the State Department, a dzhungarik navalnago or a traitor to the motherland! And we don’t propaganda, information! Only the enemies are engaged in propaganda to sow doubt and fear in us. Stop it before it's too late, I tell you !! If you are a Patriot of RUSSIA and PUTIN!
          1. Heterocapsa
            Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 20: 57
            +4
            typical....
            1. Eduard petrov
              Eduard petrov 6 May 2018 21: 02
              0
              Quote: Heterocapsa
              typical....

              Yes, I'm like everyone else! We are all patriots of our homeland and will lay bones for it if PUTIN orders it! Whose will you be? AND?
              1. Heterocapsa
                Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 21: 21
                +3
                here even Meehan will be powerless
              2. Mestny
                Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 24
                -1
                I’m ready to show you my son, "whose" I will be.
                Your teenage clown dances about patriotism do not really affect the country. And this is extremely good.
                Make jokes about Putin and patriotism to the relatives and colleagues of the heroes of Russia who died in Syria.
              3. 72jora72
                72jora72 7 May 2018 03: 43
                +1
                Yes, I'm like everyone else! We are all patriots of our homeland and will lay bones for it if PUTIN orders it! Whose will you be? AND?
                Humorist? Burn more.
          2. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 6 May 2018 21: 23
            +2
            Wow! Can you mention the Inquisition in the form of the FSB? In this case, I hope I will not violate your feelings as a believer by the fact that you have not been sober up with the portrait of Putin in the iconostasis?
            I agree that Putin is one of the most sensible of presidents ... But faith is a bit of a different opera ... The Kremlin is not a church and Putin is not a god.
            And the weapon in any case is good and worse, but in any case requires a professional approach in handling. Including Soviet and Russian.
          3. Mestny
            Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 22
            -1
            Do you personally Putin poured salt on the tail of salt that you are so viciously ironic here?
            Or are there two of you from the casket?
            1. Aleks2048
              Aleks2048 7 May 2018 08: 21
              0
              Fanaticism is fun. laughing
    2. Pollux
      Pollux 6 May 2018 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      “there are no analogues in the world”, as well as wedging me when our people say it.

      According to statistics, our media lie much less often than Western ones
      1. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 22: 32
        +2
        and statistics are also from our media?)
        1. Pollux
          Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 39
          +1
          Quote: Heterocapsa
          and statistics are also from our media?)

          But how!
      2. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 6 May 2018 23: 41
        +2
        Statistics in general are an interesting thing, in general, absolutely necessary, but there are a lot of questions on it. It’s good when the statistics are complete and objective and it becomes a problem if not so.
        1. Pollux
          Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 54
          0
          Quote: Alex2048
          It’s good when the statistics are complete and objective

          It is fantastic! Objective statistics are somewhere close to a true story - in myths and legends.
  14. Babermetis
    Babermetis 6 May 2018 20: 17
    +1
    Why did you choose such a pendant?
    1. Ivan Tarava
      Ivan Tarava 6 May 2018 20: 37
      +1
      And what is his suspension?
  15. VladimS
    VladimS 6 May 2018 20: 17
    +1
    Quote: Alex2048
    I remembered for some reason AvtoVAZ with a successful electrician ... Take a look at almost every first car of this plant problems with electrics ... Immediately after that, for some reason I remembered Roscosmos, who realized that it wasn’t just starting a lottery ... And you have to but in most cases, sadness from electronics and its assassin’s assembly ...

    Well, so modern Mercedes with BMW vaunted, also for the most part 95% on guarantees, have problems with electronics and not mechanics at all. AND...? your sadness how?
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 6 May 2018 21: 32
      +1
      What does the Mercedes and BMW have to do with it? I am interested in our domestic ... I didn’t bring it in comparison ... Moreover, I am not at all in favor of comparing our and foreign ... I’m talking about a specifically domestic electronic database. What is the use of comparing? After all, even if we assume that electronics from Europe ... the USA ... Japan ... turns out to be better ... or even at least from where it’s never a reason to put it in weapons systems. And the fact that domestic electronics is not very high quality so it only gives an occasion for its development. So my sadness unfortunately remained with me ... request
      1. grandson of Perun
        grandson of Perun 6 May 2018 22: 18
        +3
        Well, tell us about low-quality domestic electronics. Especially about the military lol
        Without false stereotypes from television "entertainments", but with specific maintainability facts and MTBF figures wink
        1. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 6 May 2018 23: 05
          +1
          Apparently, due to the fact that all of our electronics in the tests work for failure in most of the Russian Ministry of Defense, they still use the western one.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 31
            0
            The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation mostly uses western electronics?
            Listen ... I'll tell you one clever thing ... You just do not be offended.
            As your own, as an artist, an artist - our electronics.
      2. poquello
        poquello 6 May 2018 22: 32
        0
        Quote: Alex2048
        And the fact that domestic electronics is not very high quality so it only gives an occasion for its development.

        the second time you mention, and from the arguments - poor quality auto electricians (?!) on Soviet VAZs
        1. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 7 May 2018 10: 19
          0
          Do you know the general culture of production?
          1. poquello
            poquello 7 May 2018 21: 35
            0
            Quote: Alex2048
            Do you know the general culture of production?

            production culture is a very subjective thing, roughly speaking, looked at one type of "German" assembly branch - meticulously but nifontan, they poke earrings in an inefficient process
          2. grandson of Perun
            grandson of Perun 7 May 2018 23: 24
            +1
            Quote: Alex2048
            Do you know the general culture of production?

            Again, the stereotypes from the set "Russians can not do anything."
            Again, common words without a single fact. negative
            And what is wrong in our country with a "culture of production"?
            What do you even know about production? wink
  16. Ivan Tarava
    Ivan Tarava 6 May 2018 20: 25
    0
    Why not put such a gun casing on the BTR-82A?
  17. sabotage
    sabotage 6 May 2018 20: 29
    +3
    Some nonsense. He, except against a dozen Dagestanis armed with AK, is there where to use it? He is blind as a mole.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 May 2018 22: 08
      +1
      actually this system already worked in Syria. American terrorists were extremely "satisfied."
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 33
      +1
      Quote: sabotage
      Some nonsense. He, except against a dozen Dagestanis armed with AK, is there where to use it? He is blind as a mole.

      Blind? You look at the abundance of devices on it first, and then write such things ... Otherwise, questions arise - who is really blind here.
      1. sabotage
        sabotage 7 May 2018 08: 22
        0
        Quote: Albert1988
        Blind? You look at the abundance of devices on it first, and then write such things ... Otherwise, questions arise - who is really blind here.

        Devices like a tuned chepyrka. Only the sense of them, if the operator looks at the tiny screen, which is still sometimes shown in black and white. Awareness of the combat situation is likely none. The maximum to come to a stationary structure, to shy on it, without fear of a sniper or ATGM shot. Given the fact that this nonsense suite will consist of 10 people, it is better to solve the problem by helicopters.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 7 May 2018 19: 03
          +1
          Oh, and you, by the size of the screen, determined the degree of awareness? I dare to disappoint you - awareness depends not only and not so much on the screen size, but on what information is displayed on it and in what mode. Black and white say? So the infrared range on the screens is just in the monochrome version and is displayed.
          And then - how will you solve by helicopters the issue of covering soldiers at a specific point from the next machine gun nest?
          In general, I am amazed at how many "specialists" appeared on the site - everyone knows better than all these generals / engineers / designers, etc.! This is what valuable shots disappear!
          1. sabotage
            sabotage 7 May 2018 21: 23
            +1
            Quote: Albert1988
            In general, I am amazed at how many "specialists" appeared on the site - everyone knows better than all these generals / engineers / designers, etc.! This is what valuable shots disappear!

            That is, to approve the next development, it is enough to have the qualifications of a loader, and for critical to be at least the Minister of Defense of Israel?
  18. Rider
    Rider 6 May 2018 20: 38
    0
    More armor and simpler optics
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 May 2018 22: 34
      0
      Quote: Horseman
      More armor and simpler optics

      And here it is, my friend, - the armor still did not go where, but you can’t save on optics - the battlefield should be seen first of all, if you did not see the enemy in time, then no armor will save you.
  19. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 6 May 2018 22: 12
    +3
    So many dissatisfied in the comments mean one thing - the Russian army is moving in the right direction. And who writes frank nonsense about pensions and benefits, this is a campaign of envy, in his country this is not and never will be.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 35
      -2
      Writers in the style of "it sucks" easy to characterize. These are people of a narrow mind who have not solved a single independent task in their life. Convinced that the old uncles - the developers - are complete fools, and do not understand the obvious things that "everyone knows."
      Of course, these writers are as you would expect - teenagers.
  20. Pollux
    Pollux 6 May 2018 22: 23
    0
    Some sort of sediment this uranium 9. Too heavy, too big, too weak in armament. Is it really necessary to repeat the entire evolution of tanks with unmanned vehicles? Rake walking is such a human feature? An unmanned tank should have a weight of about 5 tons, a gun of about 60 mm (57 mm can be) and should look more like ordinary tanks and not be a shed on tracks.
    In general, you first need to teach the car to independently find and destroy the target, without which unmanned armored vehicles do not make sense at all.
    Pre-warning your objections: He will not save anyone's life, but will only destroy the lives of soldiers who will save this defenseless squalor.
    1. _Jack_
      _Jack_ 6 May 2018 23: 08
      0
      He will not save anyone's life, but will only ruin the lives of soldiers who will save this defenseless squalor.
      what they should save him, this is his point - he goes ahead of the group and dies first, while revealing enemy ambushes and firing points, if he manages to shoot well at the same time, no, no
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 38
        -2
        The foreign tourist babbles about the fact that in the Russian army the price of life is nothing, and everyone will be abandoned to save Putin's valuable property.
        The follower of the sect Olesha Nanalnogo detective.
        1. Pollux
          Pollux 7 May 2018 08: 46
          0
          Quote: Mestny
          Intourist babbles

          Quote: Mestny
          valuable Putin property

          And who is the foreign tourist here? You Putin stepped on your favorite corn? Or spat in borsch? You American Spies are easily recognized by their “special” attitude towards Putin.
      2. Grits
        Grits 7 May 2018 09: 03
        0
        what they should save him, this is his point - he goes ahead of the group and dies first, while revealing enemy ambushes and firing points, if he manages to shoot well at the same time, no, no.

        That is how it was practiced in Syria, when they took height with entrenched barmales. Uranus was ahead of all, identifying goals. Caused fire on himself. And back at the distance stood our good old "Acacias", which quickly suppressed the goals. Then the Syrian infantry with tanks completely cleared the area. By the way, then about 80 barmaley remained on the battlefield. There were no losses among the Syrians. True, whether Uranus survived is not specified. Especially after the phrase "caused fire on yourself"
        1. sabotage
          sabotage 7 May 2018 09: 53
          0
          Quote: Gritsa
          That is how it was practiced in Syria

          Is there a proof?
          1. Grits
            Grits 7 May 2018 10: 00
            0
            get
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AklTOLKYK14
            https://youtu.be/moR8Ws_4qJI
            1. sabotage
              sabotage 7 May 2018 21: 24
              0
              This is not a proof, but an OBS.
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 7 May 2018 16: 04
          0
          An ordinary Chinese civilian quadrocopter Mavic PRO, for example, has a ceiling of -5 km ... The camera has a resolution of 4K .. Cost is extraordinary .. flight time on one battery is 25 minutes .. Direct broadcasting to the device of your choice .. is easy. . Folds and is worn on a belt or in any bag from the camera .. Two hundred meters up and you won’t hear and don’t see it - because of the size .. Do you think it is difficult to equip units with such toys to identify enemy firing points? Or is it better to carry an expensive caterpillar car with you, which, in the end, plays the role of artillery spotter?
  21. Dezinto
    Dezinto 6 May 2018 22: 54
    0
    In general, you first need to teach the car to independently find and destroy the target, without which unmanned armored vehicles do not make sense at all.


    That's how it all started ....
    And then the conversations started - "let's give them more freedom of action, oh well, why is there one processor with the program" .....
    yeah ...



    You will not blink an eye (in about a hundred years) and they already make themselves ....

    1. Pollux
      Pollux 6 May 2018 23: 43
      0
      Quote: DEZINTO
      That's how it all started ....

      You don’t think that the story invented by the director over a cup of tea will really happen ?!
      People are the same resource as any other for machines too. if machines come to power, no one will destroy people, on the contrary, each artificial intelligence will protect and develop its population of people.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 7 May 2018 01: 43
        0
        Directors over a cup of tea do not come up with such stories.
        Scriptwriters do this - that is, writers. able to write a script. In this case, come up with such a story - you must first read a bunch of books on science. to study trends, understand the processes taking place in science. And only then - come up with such a story.
        That is, to be a real smart experienced professional in their field.
        Not a single teenager for any cup of tea. Or even beer, and will never come up with anything further than a short govnorolik in YouTube.
        Hello to populations.
        1. Pollux
          Pollux 7 May 2018 08: 51
          0
          Quote: Mestny
          Directors over a cup of tea do not come up with such stories.

          Yes, to the bulb, whoever composes everything there.
          Quote: Mestny
          Scriptwriters do this - that is, writers. able to write a script. In this case, come up with such a story - you must first read a bunch of books on science. to study trends, understand the processes taking place in science.

          It used to be, a hundred years ago, now completely illiterate people write, they not only don’t know anything, they don’t even try to find out something. And then it turns out that the world is saved in American films by heroes and children, where all the armies of the world lost.
          Quote: Mestny
          Not a single teenager for any cup of tea.

          It's not about teenagers, but about quite a dumbass adult.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 7 May 2018 09: 24
          0
          In general, Cameron dreamed of this cyborg as he said, “A healthy man with a red eye was chasing a woman.”
  22. CYM
    CYM 6 May 2018 23: 03
    +1
    IMHO In the shown form and method of application, the machine is quite vulnerable to sniper fire, it is enough to knock out the optics. winked
  23. Dikson
    Dikson 7 May 2018 03: 47
    0
    The roller with pokatushki along an almost even range, with neatly arranged small bones did not really inspire me .. How will this technique behave in a street fight? Burning or immobilizing it in battle from cover will not be so difficult ... But the times of full-height attacks in a clean field, and dashing cavalry attacks have long passed ... The only real use is a mobile firing point at checkpoints ..
    1. Grits
      Grits 7 May 2018 09: 05
      0
      As for the firing point at the checkpoints, remote from people - an interesting idea.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 7 May 2018 15: 54
        0
        Well, it seems to lie on the surface - take, for example, an uninhabited module, put it on stationary supports - and it’s quite possible to keep the perimeter of a particularly important object, reducing the number of guard calculations .. Post control, several operators, and a bunch of electronics .. And this the shushpanzer will completely cope with the same task in the field .. We can assume its use as a remedy for snipers in a street battle, so as not to substitute personnel .. -but I’m afraid any sane sniper will immediately crush this robot all its optics ... in first of all ...
  24. kig
    kig 7 May 2018 05: 39
    0
    Some filmets is not convincing ... Looks like a commercial for UAZ, preparing for sale in Africa.
  25. Tektor
    Tektor 7 May 2018 16: 53
    0
    Yes, the future lies with them.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 7 May 2018 17: 12
      0
      until the first finger pops out of the goose - this is the future ..