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"Cancellation of the sale of F-35 is unacceptable": Ankara threatened the United States with retaliatory measures

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The Turkish authorities will retaliate against the United States if the supply of F-35 fighter jets will be blocked, reports RIA News statement by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the country Mevlüt авavusoglu.




Earlier, Washington announced the introduction of sanctions against 38 Russian individuals and companies, including against Rosoboronexport. US Assistant Secretary of State Wess Mitchell said recently that Ankara’s purchase of C-400 anti-aircraft systems from Russia "may adversely affect the delivery of fifth-generation F-35 American fighter jets to Turkey."

In addition, a group of US senators, including Republicans and Democrats, offered to block the supply of F-35 to Turkey due to the fact that American pastor Andrew Brunson is under arrest in this country.

Next week I will visit the United States. It will be said that canceling the sale of F-35 is unacceptable, and if this happens, they (the United States) will receive a corresponding response from Turkey,
Chavushoglu said on CNN Turk.

What specific steps are planned to take due to the blocking of supplies, the Foreign Minister did not specify.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 May 2018 11: 48
    +12
    It seems to me that the Turks will eventually leave NATO. And this will be the beginning of the collapse of the block. It was a big US mistake to eliminate Erdogan.
    1. Logall
      Logall 6 May 2018 11: 49
      +7
      Buy a Su-35? - a worthy answer, in my opinion!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 May 2018 11: 50
        +4
        Quote: Logall
        Buy a Su-35? - a worthy answer, in my opinion!

        Su-35 is a heavy MFI ... most likely MIG-35 will be offered
        1. mgero
          mgero 6 May 2018 11: 53
          +9
          Eto blef. Ameri pradadut a turki budut platit jivimi dengami, ne Po kriditu.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 6 May 2018 12: 00
            +4
            Quote: mgero
            Eto blef. Ameri pradadut a turki budut platit jivimi dengami, ne Po kriditu.

            I agree. So that the Americans would really refuse to sell weapons, yes Trump will immediately arrange a “successful assassination attempt”. Like Kennedy.
            1. Logall
              Logall 6 May 2018 12: 19
              +16
              The states are simply afraid of what will happen when the Turks see the F-35 on S-400 monitors ... And then they will tell in secret, around the world, about the "invulnerability" of the American "miracle" of the aircraft industry ...
              1. NG inform
                NG inform 6 May 2018 12: 50
                +2
                Already seen everything - the Jews in Syria fly on them.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 6 May 2018 15: 28
                  +1
                  So we saw it.
                  And then the Turks will see soldier
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 6 May 2018 22: 41
                    +1
                    Hmm ... I just found out that on April 20th, Turkey exported its gold reserves from the United States. And in general, not only from the USA, according to the Milliyet newspaper, a total of 220 tons were returned (28 tons of them from the US Federal Reserve).
                    Maybe this is the main reason for the aggravation of relations between Turkey and the United States, and the S-400 is secondary, and only for official discontent?
                    https://ria.ru/economy/20180420/1519082007.html
                2. mvg
                  mvg 6 May 2018 18: 01
                  +2
                  The Jews themselves have merged Old, or is it so you want to think? Infa about F-35 flights was not at all. Only rumors.
      2. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 12: 06
        +2
        No, nobody will offer Russian planes to Turkey.
        Let the US-European ride.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 May 2018 12: 24
          +6
          Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
          No, nobody will offer Russian planes to Turkey.

          You're wrong. There is a struggle for markets and Russia, as the second supplier of weapons in the world, mattresses are trying to oust from these markets. Now there is a serious struggle for the Indian market, again Pakistan, whose market is dominated by the United States ... Turkey is no exception. And in this struggle for markets, the Syrian training ground is of great help.
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 12: 32
            +5
            So I do not argue that there is a struggle for the market.

            But no one in their right mind will supply the latest aircraft to NATO members.
            Although the S-400, for example, is more likely an exception that confirms the rule. By selling these unique complexes, Russia has nobly hung a slap with a US boot))
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 May 2018 12: 41
              +4
              Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
              Although the S-400, for example, is more likely an exception that confirms the rule.

              Selling Triumphs is only the beginning. And it is clear as day.
              Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
              But no one in their right mind will supply the latest aircraft to NATO members.

              Why is it that our fighters offer the Indians, the Chinese ... are you worried that the USA will study the same MIG-35? Firstly, it’s not a fact that they will let them study, and secondly, the MIG-35 is not such a new fighter. It was originally sharpened for export by and large.
      3. Doronkabilio
        Doronkabilio 6 May 2018 12: 29
        +5
        I really hope to cancel the delivery of the F-35 to the Turks. Let them buy a su-57. We will be calmer.
        1. farcop
          farcop 6 May 2018 12: 35
          +1
          Quote: Doronkabilio
          I really hope to cancel the delivery of the F-35 to the Turks. Let them buy a su-57. We will be calmer.
          No, they kind of threatened to rivet.
          1. Doronkabilio
            Doronkabilio 6 May 2018 13: 21
            +2
            Moreover, we will be calmer
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 6 May 2018 14: 44
            +1
            they kind of threatened to rivet.

            5e definitely would not make it 4th normal at least, although they can do anything horrible and call 5m like with fu.
        2. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 6 May 2018 13: 06
          +11
          I really hope to cancel the delivery of the F-35 to the Turks. Let them buy a su-57. We will be calmer.

          Don’t ... we will supply the MiG-31 with the “Dagger” to Iran so that you don’t sleep at all .....
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 May 2018 13: 10
            +4
            Quote: Solomon Kane
            Don’t ... we will supply the MiG-31 with the “Dagger” to Iran so that you don’t sleep at all .....

            No, Kostya ... such complexes as the MIG-31BM with the Dagger will not be exported for sure. But the dagger in the future to adapt to the SU-57 and SU-35, can very much spoil the mood of mattresses and co.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 6 May 2018 13: 11
            +6
            Kostya, it’s better to expire Satan. And let them not sleep, thinking when they will explode or not ...
          3. farcop
            farcop 6 May 2018 14: 38
            +1
            Quote: Solomon Kane
            Don’t ... we will supply the MiG-31 with the “Dagger” to Iran so that you don’t sleep at all .....
            Smoked, falling, rocket ... we know, passed
          4. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 6 May 2018 20: 30
            0
            Don’t ... we will supply the MiG-31 with the “Dagger” to Iran so that you don’t sleep at all .....

            Better “iskanders” are simple and if also “calibers” are so good at all.
        3. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 13: 55
          +2
          Quote: Doronkabilio
          We will be calmer.

          we do not care about your peace of mind, and do not flood - the topic is not about the Jews
      4. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 13: 11
        0
        Quote: Logall
        Buy a Su-35?

        no, they won’t buy it - why do they need it? Is he the 5th generation? no - the answer of the Turks is obvious
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 May 2018 11: 59
      +7
      "And this will be the beginning of the collapse of the block" ///

      Countries must remain in NATO that understand why they need a bloc,
      and its accepting rules. What to keep random travel companions?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 May 2018 12: 04
        +9
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Countries must remain in NATO

        The mattresses thought for a long time and looked for a new reason for the continued existence of the bloc, after the collapse of the Warsaw bloc ... they found it, throughout the world announcing the list of enemies, which includes us.
        Conflicts of interest within the block will create the prerequisites for its collapse.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 May 2018 12: 12
          +6
          NATO block was about to disband in the first decade
          new century. This was the meeting of the European Community.
          They planned to leave only the "rapid response corps" for
          shipments to distant hot spots. Obama withdrew tanks from Europe and closed
          most American bases, Europeans reduced their tank forces by almost zero.
          NATO saved 2014 from "death" when Russia abruptly knelt down, frightening everyone.
          1. venik
            venik 6 May 2018 12: 24
            +10
            Quote: voyaka uh
            NATO saved 2014 from "death" when Russia abruptly knelt down, frightening everyone.

            ======
            But with IT it's hard disagree!!!
            That's just "getting up from your knees" - happened MUCH earlier - 08.08.2008 !!!
            Aesley WELL THINK - THAT'S AND even earlier!!
          2. Kurare
            Kurare 6 May 2018 12: 26
            +13
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Obama withdrew tanks from Europe and shut down most US bases

            This is not entirely true. More precisely, this is not so at all. Bases in Western Europe were mothballed, but not closed. But in the East they opened up quite new ones.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Europeans reduced their tank forces by almost zero.

            In Europe, they have no idea how to develop the armed forces. It seems that there are no enemies on the European theater of war, but it seems that Russia is also hindering life. But it is also necessary to develop expeditionary forces, as the United States creates more and more hot spots. But the tank forces were not reduced, but destroyed. They simply didn’t invest, so there weren’t enough tanks left on the move.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 May 2018 13: 01
              +2
              "But in the East they opened up quite new ones." ////

              Until 2014, they closed and canned in Western Europe. They were exported, sold to third world countries or used to write off armored vehicles.
              And after 2014 they opened in Eastern Europe. A new cold war began. What am I talking about. wink
              1. Kurare
                Kurare 6 May 2018 17: 37
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                And after 2014 they opened in Eastern Europe. A new cold war began. What am I talking about. wink

                You talked about closing the bases, I talked about conservation. Agree, two big differences! wink
          3. figwam
            figwam 6 May 2018 12: 31
            +16
            voyaka uh

            Keep these tales with you. All these years, NATO conducted military operations to encircle Russia and expanded towards Russia, absorbing new countries that no one threatened, strike systems were installed near our borders (under the guise of missile defense). And in 2014, the FSA invaded the outskirts and crossed the red line, after which Russia began resistance.
          4. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 12: 35
            +9
            Quote: voyaka uh
            NATO block was about to disband in the first decade


            Bullshit. All this bureaucratic-military colossus, inflated to impossibility, sucks the astronomical amount of money that is deposited in the pockets of senior officials.

            What fool will close this feeding trough?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 May 2018 13: 05
              +1
              "What fool will close this feeding trough?" ////

              It is known who saved this feeding trough from closing. laughing
              Geopolitics are dangerous games, .. and a double-edged sword. The consequences are completely
              not the same as intended.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 6 May 2018 13: 14
                +5
                Quote: voyaka uh
                "What fool will close this feeding trough?" ////
                It is known who saved this feeding trough from closing. laughing
                Geopolitics are dangerous games, .. and a double-edged sword. The consequences are completely
                not the same as intended.

                What? Putin again? ....
                1. Sands Careers General
                  Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 13: 23
                  +4
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  "What fool will close this feeding trough?" ////
                  It is known who saved this feeding trough from closing. laughing
                  Geopolitics are dangerous games, .. and a double-edged sword. The consequences are completely
                  not the same as intended.

                  What? Putin again? ....



                  Of course, Putin is to blame for everything, starting from the lack of salmon migration, ending with the fact that his wife does not give senior officials of "Western partners" in the morning laughing
              2. vovanpain
                vovanpain 6 May 2018 13: 19
                +7
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Geopolitics are dangerous games, .. and a double-edged sword. The consequences are completely different from what they were intended.

                Of course, not like the Americans thought, starting with the bombing of Yugoslavia and sowing color revolutions, Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, attempts in Russia and finally the “Arab spring” were also not conceived in the Kremlin by Alexei Batkovich. Dubina Gorbachev believed these “friends” to say that NATO will not expand eastward, and so? So what does Russia ask? What if it has its own interests, and does not follow the American Alexei Batkovich?
                Quote: voyaka uh
                NATO saved 2014 from "death" when Russia abruptly knelt down, frightening everyone.

                Scared speak laughing You don’t have to think about “exclusivity”, Monomakh’s hat is heavy and it’s not for the Anglo-Saxon head in general. All the “saints” of the 90s are remembered when Russia was on its knees with outstretched hands, well, if you want to make an appeal. To Ukraine look, a copy of Russia in the 90s. laughing hi
                1. onix757
                  onix757 6 May 2018 13: 22
                  0
                  Dubin Gorbachev believed these “friends” to say that NATO would not expand east, so what? So what does Russia ask about it7

                  probably despite the fact that the largest expansion occurred under the current government.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 6 May 2018 13: 31
                    +1
                    And you, a man without a flag, wanted us to be taken with his bare hands?
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 6 May 2018 14: 08
                      0
                      Yes, they took it practically. It was necessary to move before. Moldova should not be surrendered to nationalists; in Ukraine and Georgia, it will bring the matter to an end. And the problems that we have would not have arisen. But these tasks cannot be solved within the framework of the capitalist structure of the state in the presence of a peripheral economy.
              3. _Jack_
                _Jack_ 6 May 2018 13: 31
                +1
                Yes, we didn’t have any choice, do you think it would be better for Russia to give Ukraine entirely to the states? that we would be kicked out of the Black Sea and in Sevastopol there was a NATO Navy base? it’s not us who started this in Ukraine and here we had to choose the lesser of two evils
              4. tagil
                tagil 6 May 2018 13: 38
                +3
                Dear, you really believe that if there weren’t for the 14 year, now there would be no NATO, I’m just wondering are you serious?
              5. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 6 May 2018 13: 53
                +12
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Geopolitics are dangerous games, .. and a double-edged sword.

                Warrior! Well, you're smart people! Why, then, are you trying to stick wings with wax to the military bloc burnt by adventurism !?
                What Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq did not please the elect? The fact that they decided to live their own minds, and not according to the canons of homosexuals from the SGA?
                A block of states is needed to give legitimacy to all the fuss on the globe.
                And secondly, for a presence in Europe under the plausible pretext of "protecting Western democracy / civilization / values ​​and other far-fetched crap.
                Thirdly, and to whom, if not partners, to push the products of their defense industry. See how smartly the Yankees push their Penguins to Europe! But this is a cross on the new developments of the German / French / Italy / Great Britain aircraft concerns ... Although, to be honest, the latter has completely relaxed under the partner and is fully pleased, based on joint plans to create new SSBNs, new generation SLBMs, etc. .
                So, NATO is the wormhole of the States in Europe. Plus, the basis for creating a united front against Russia, well, at the same time, and against China.
                IMHO.
          5. mvg
            mvg 6 May 2018 18: 04
            0
            You definitely mean the year 2014, when the euro jumped to 100+ rubles, and oil fell to 50- per barrel. Something new.
          6. Yuriy_999
            Yuriy_999 6 May 2018 20: 57
            0
            [/ quote] NATO block was about to disband in the first decade [quote]

            That is why it was intensely expanded before that? Oh well.
      2. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 12: 08
        +4
        Yeah, especially when you consider that Turkey is one of the first to get into NATO.
        If it comes out, for the "Western partners" it will be a disaster.
        And personally, I will beat and scream - come on again!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 6 May 2018 12: 40
          +5
          Quote: Sands Career General
          Yeah, especially when you consider that Turkey is one of the first to get into NATO.
          Turkey was one of the first to join NATO because at that time it was closest to the borders of the USSR. Remember the American Jupiter missiles with nuclear warheads in Turkey in 1961 ... Turkey is still in the EU's waiting room.
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 13: 15
            +3
            My father served in the radar unit in Lugansk. If I am not mistaken, the approach of missiles with nuclear weapons from Turkey is about 17 minutes. And then Lugansk was one of the top ten Soviet cities that could have been hit by a nuclear weapon.

            And Turkey is too convenient for NATO.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 6 May 2018 13: 37
              +2
              Zhora, 17 minutes this is apparently to Moscow, Vicki writes less than 10 minutes, just for Lugansk apparently. Although I am poorly enlightened in this.
              1. Sands Careers General
                Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 13: 44
                +2
                Today I will ask my father how much time is required))
      3. venik
        venik 6 May 2018 12: 21
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Countries must remain in NATO that understand why they need a bloc and adopt its rules. What to keep random travel companions?

        ========
        And you, expect that Israel will take THEM a place??
        If - NO, then with what "hangover", so concerned about "THEIR" problems ????
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 6 May 2018 12: 38
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Countries must remain in NATO that understand why they need a bloc,
        and its accepting rules. What to keep random travel companions?

        Then Paul Craig Roberts lit up again with his analysis of the US debt situation. By all indications, there are very good reasons to say that the Americans will decide to negotiate the restructuring of their debt to external holders. Will there be no problems with Japan, but with China? Predict a big change and as it should be the first to fly sixes.
        If NATO survives, it will be a completely different bloc.
      5. 72jora72
        72jora72 6 May 2018 12: 49
        +1
        Countries must remain in NATO that understand why they need a bloc,
        Do they themselves know why they need NATO?
      6. NG inform
        NG inform 6 May 2018 12: 51
        0
        NATO is not a voluntary matter. More precisely, it is as voluntary as the choice at the sight of American missiles can be voluntary.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 6 May 2018 17: 27
          +2
          Quote: NG inform
          it is as voluntary as it can be a voluntary choice in the sight of American missiles.

          Well, or the choice is threatened by the Maidan and civil war.
      7. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 6 May 2018 12: 56
        +3
        I still can’t understand why Israel is not a NATO member?
        One out of two:
        Or it’s an empty idea to invest in a hopeless enterprise,
        Or is it caution - NATO Members automatically become Members of the Suicide Club ..... request
        Or else ....? what
      8. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 13: 12
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        What to keep random travel companions?

        there are half random, but here Turkey is not at all random !!!!
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 6 May 2018 12: 28
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      It seems to me that the Turks will eventually leave NATO. And this will be the beginning of the collapse of the block. It was a big US mistake to eliminate Erdogan.

      The Turks will never leave NATO, since Greece will immediately recall the territorial claims, plus the United States will immediately activate the Kurds inside Turkey itself, the EU can tightly close the borders, etc.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 May 2018 12: 36
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        Turks will never leave NATO, as Greece will immediately recall territorial claims

        And then what will happen? Turkey has one of the most powerful armies in the world and do you think that the Greeks will want to solve the territorial issue by force? Japan also has claims to the Russian Federation in the Kuril Islands, so what?
        Quote: RUSS
        plus the United States immediately activates the Kurds inside Turkey itself,

        Disclaimer -Try to activate.
        Quote: RUSS
        The EU can tightly close borders, etc. ...

        The EU and so shoots itself in the foot of the sanctions ... do you think that this will continue forever? How many rogue countries have the United States designated? And how many more will be designated. And now think, because of the confrontation of US hegemony, countries such as the Russian Federation, China, S. Korea, Iran are already opposing themselves to mattresses ... and this list will grow. And it is not a fact that in the near future, the total economy of rogue countries will not be larger than that of NATO countries.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 6 May 2018 13: 20
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          And then what will happen? Turkey has one of the most powerful armies in the world and do you think that the Greeks will want to solve the territorial issue by force? Japan also has claims to the Russian Federation in the Kuril Islands, so what?

          Greece is a NATO member and with the help of a block of plone can give a couple of islands for example.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 May 2018 13: 26
            +3
            Quote: RUSS
            Greece member of NATO and with the help of the bloc

            We return to our rams ... did NATO help Turkey a lot when the Turks shot down our SU-24? Do you recall what the State Department voiced after Erdogan came running to them? This is a showdown only of the Turks and Russia, that is, in fact, it was said, go to the forest. Do you think that Greece will do something different? It is already clear to the whole world that, as a US ally, it’s not a fountain, from the word at all ... Therefore, the Greeks will sit and be silent.
            And by the way about Greece ... relations between the Russian Federation and the Greeks are getting better and not the fact that Greece will be the next candidate for rejection from NATO.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 6 May 2018 15: 12
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              And by the way about Greece ... relations between the Russian Federation and the Greeks are getting better and not the fact that Greece will be the next candidate for rejection from NATO.

              Dreams Dreams ....
              PS. Is Turkey an Exit Candidate? laughing
    4. URAL72
      URAL72 6 May 2018 13: 06
      +2
      They won’t come out, usual eastern bargaining, chatter (underline what is necessary). Turkey does not have calm neighbors - Syria, Iran, which they want to turn into Syria, Iraq, which they have already turned, and Kurds in all these countries, about 25-30 million. There are problems with Greece, Armenia, weak, but hating Bulgaria, Russia is also afraid . Enemies around the perimeter! Remember how the Turks called the NATO Council with a fright after the downing of the Su-24.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 May 2018 13: 16
        +2
        Quote: URAL72
        Remember how the Turks called the NATO Council with a fright after the downing of the Su-24.

        Everything changed very much at the moment when the USA, after the downing of our 24th, turned away from the Turks, and after that they tried to physically remove Erdogan altogether. So your remark was true before all these events. Now everything has changed a lot.
    5. SETTGF
      SETTGF 6 May 2018 13: 12
      +1
      It is unlikely that the Turks will leave NATO! They are slowly getting the latest developments from NATO and Russia, while developing their military industry!
    6. den3080
      den3080 6 May 2018 13: 20
      +1
      They met each other finally. Two blackmailers. Trump and Erdogan.
      Turkey is smaller than the United States at times but it is in a key place on the political globe wink And do not piss, like any other.
      Amerikosy still run their F-35 offering to the Turks and if sold, then with a 50% discount.
      The difference will be taken from Saudi Arabia and Germany.
    7. seti
      seti 6 May 2018 14: 40
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      It seems to me that the Turks will eventually leave NATO. And this will be the beginning of the collapse of the block. It was a big US mistake to eliminate Erdogan.

      Your words to God in the ears. While NATO is beneficial to Turkey (and it is very profitable) they will go to hell. Unless in the toilet so as not to participate in any mission.
      But if the tension between the EU and the USA continues to increase, then this is certainly very beneficial for us. It is better to have Turkey with Erdogan, if not on our side, then at least with their independent opinion.
    8. pavelwf1
      pavelwf1 7 May 2018 10: 34
      0
      Good day. Well, why, a big mistake?! Everything has long been within the world plan of the Morgans and Rothschilds for the development of oil fields in the countries of the UAE, ATS, etc. The chain of events that speaks for itself. Hussein, Gaddafi, Erdogan. Iraq, Libya, Turkey! If it is convenient for the leading clans of bankers, they can eliminate the Prince of Saudi Arabia so that the rest can become more accommodating. Chaos in the Middle East is beneficial for the United States.
      1.No, the leaders of the country-It is not necessary to negotiate with everyone for a lot of money. 2. The introduction of military forces under the pretext of putting things in order. 3. The introduction of the military contingent requires money as well as for the supply of weapons to the regime’s opposition. 4 Supply of medicines and humanitarian aid. This is also the percentage of money that will be paid by the new government that has come to power. (Money will be taken out of the pockets of tax payers) Just GDP with the help of special services, or maybe personally. I warned my colleague. (On time) How can this end for him and for the country! how else can the USA benefit from the “New Crusade”? The beginning of which was the well-known events that occurred in the USA on September 11, George W. Bush then proclaimed it. And who was appointed guilty for the terrorist attack ... ??? That's right where there is more oil .. the United States by itself, is the largest consumer of oil on the planet. About 70% of the world's oil. Consume the USA. As long as there are wars on the planet for oil fields, the dollar will keep up. it is no coincidence that he was tied to the price of oil .;)
      Just do not forget about Yellowstone (Volcano) Remember what Clinton said. Regarding the relocation of citizens of Ukraine. So everything in terms of bankers is interconnected.
  2. Abram
    Abram 6 May 2018 11: 51
    +4
    what good planes however, these F-35s, almost to a fight for them smile it is not FGFA to you winked
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 37
      0
      it is not FGFA to you

      Yes, what kind of FGFA is there, not every second world plane can be compared with it.
  3. gippernano
    gippernano 6 May 2018 11: 57
    +1
    Right now, the Turks will take offense at the geldings that they don’t sell to them, planes, geldings, in view of the importance of strategic partnership, the Turks will make concessions to the Kurds and others, and then the Turks will tell us these your wunderwaffles are not needed. We take the SU-57 already.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 6 May 2018 14: 39
      0
      Quote: gippernano
      We take the SU-57 already.

      there’s nothing to take, to the SU57 serial as to Mars on foot, and it does not fully correspond to the 5th generation.
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 6 May 2018 15: 17
        +2
        so there’s nothing to take, up to SU57 serial as to Mars on foot, and it does not fully correspond to the 5th generation

        Well, this is not buggy, invisible, and battle-worthy before the F-35, like cancer before Mars, but as for matching, not matching, you pair your NATO friends. Even without you, we know what corresponds or not, comrade expert
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 6 May 2018 16: 15
          0
          Quote: gippernano
          Well, this is not buggy, invisible, and battle-worthy before the F-35, like cancer before Mars, but as for matching, not matching, you pair your NATO friends. Even without you, we know what corresponds or not, comrade expert

          Of course, that’s why it’s the turn on the SU57 with 3000 boards, it’s sometimes buggy and really invisible, in the sense of production it has not been seen yet. laughing
          SU57 upgraded SU35, the developers could not even change the layout of the engines like the engine itself at the factory tests, its stealth is also under big question because of the same layout with right angles to the fuselage, the prototype radar and AFAR are not serial, but what there is from the same SU35. Even before the serial years he was so ... eleven.
          1. gippernano
            gippernano 6 May 2018 16: 21
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            Admire your FU-35, get where they’ll let them go, and we will fly our own.
          2. gippernano
            gippernano 6 May 2018 17: 35
            0
            Well, these are all the transfers, with such inaccuracies, like this is a modernized su-35, they say that the intellectuals wrote you the manual. Although they could say that it is a modernized Su-27, at least thanks for that. I’m silent about the lineup of engines, or dare to suggest that this is your personal know-how to the training manual. Of course, in such a way to assemble engines, not from above, not from the front, but from behind, like all normal aircraft, this is certainly nonsense for 5th generation aircraft.
            It remains only to wish your child prodigy flying, quickly get on the wing, then we'll see.
  4. izya top
    izya top 6 May 2018 12: 03
    +3
    Yes, the Amer’s defenders utilize all these senators and State Deputies am
    1. den3080
      den3080 6 May 2018 13: 26
      0
      As targets at landfills.
  5. sauvage
    sauvage 6 May 2018 12: 05
    +3
    All the same, for amers the loot is not the main thing, for them the interests of the country come first.
    1. venik
      venik 6 May 2018 12: 27
      +4
      Quote: sauvage
      All the same, for amers the loot is not the main thing, for them the interests of the country come first.

      =======
      Do you really think so ????
      Well, so tell me - HOW to separate the "Amer loot" from the "Amer’s interests" ?????
      It will be terribly interesting to LISTEN !!!
    2. 1536
      1536 6 May 2018 12: 35
      0
      Are you seriously? So the "dough", when it is in excessive quantities, should support the "interests of the country" in order to develop even more "dough". And what is primary here, what is secondary, no one can definitely say.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 6 May 2018 14: 17
      +1
      Quote: sauvage
      for amers loot is not the main thing, for them the interests of the country come first.

      Just do not try to fashion from the Yankees patrons!
      The national interests of the States are determined by TNC groups whose main goal is profit !!!
      So it turns out that the main thing for the Yankees is to make a profit / gain. In a good way, it doesn’t work out with the natives anymore, so you have to change undesirable governments with your boot, organize color revolutions, bomb the naughty people in the Stone Age .... For this, power is needed, i.e. powerful sun. And to contain them you need ... right! - BABLO!
      The circle is closed! That is all national interests. But loot at the same time plays a major role!
    4. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 39
      +1
      for amers loot is not important, for them, the interests of the country come first

      Don’t say it. But the country's interests are in dollars.
  6. Graz
    Graz 6 May 2018 12: 27
    +1
    as I read, the Turks wanted to buy like 114 F-35, but I have vague doubts, every $ 150 million is there, it is unlikely that Turkey has so much free money
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 48
      0
      every 150 million dollars there

      And the service is the same per year. No departures. With departures more expensive of course.
      In a word, such happiness must be fought.
  7. farcop
    farcop 6 May 2018 12: 31
    +2
    they (the United States) will receive a corresponding response from Turkey
    Well, and what will be the answer?
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 51
      0
      Well, and what will be the answer?

      They will say that they take a headset, S-400 + Su-35, and that's it. And hello to you until the very hello.
      1. farcop
        farcop 6 May 2018 14: 58
        0
        Quote: gippernano
        They say they take a headset
        Do you really believe that? Well, wait and see. need to look after a year.
        1. gippernano
          gippernano 6 May 2018 16: 24
          0
          The Turks stood in line for the EU for 50 years, they wait a few years, like 2 fingers.
          1. farcop
            farcop 6 May 2018 17: 15
            0
            Quote: gippernano
            The Turks stood in line for the EU for 50 years, they wait a few years, like 2 fingers.
            Well, they stood, and they don’t take it.
  8. 1536
    1536 6 May 2018 12: 33
    +1
    In general, this Turk takes risks when traveling to the United States. The Americans will arrest him for a sweet soul or begin to blackmail him, as banditry and extortion are the fundamental links in American politics. Therefore, 100%, that upon returning from there, the opinion of the Turkish Foreign Ministry may change by all 180 degrees.
  9. Maximys
    Maximys 6 May 2018 12: 33
    0
    Turkey is a good example of the fact that the East is a delicate matter. Both yours and ours. Which line of behavior to follow is not clear. But it’s better to keep your distance.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 56
      0
      But it's better to keep your distance

      Heh. Is the heirs of Byzantium to stay away? What are the lines of behavior with these people? None. They are in our ticks, and not we in them. The Dardanelles will return to their homeland.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 May 2018 12: 39
    +3
    Now it will be enough to show that the “flying penguin” is visible on S-300 radars, etc. And also on AFAR radars of our fighters. And the grand bluff with the F-35 will end! Like many other scams. Type F-117. Who remembers this "flying iron"?
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 14: 59
      0
      it will be enough to show that the “flying penguin” is visible on S-300 radars

      Yes, let everyone buy, we do not baptize children with them, but fight and fight.
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 6 May 2018 12: 42
    +1
    Eastern Bazaar against showman Trump. I would buy popcorn and admire it, but, frankly, everyone needs to be driven out of this circus. The crisis of the genre, and the clowns are so-so.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 6 May 2018 15: 08
      0
      I agree. I watched how the Pampheo’s destination was celebrated in the State Department, and against the backdrop of this spiritual upsurge, gurgling straight happiness, some sort of hopeless dullness directly enveloped everyone, and they tried to break through it with shining eyes, and somehow they didn’t succeed, they all felt it , and only exacerbated everything.
      Tryndets USA.
      Give cryptocurrency to the Russian outback !!!
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 6 May 2018 15: 26
        0
        Give cryptocurrency to the Russian outback !!!

        No, at the beginning of the road.
  12. viktor.
    viktor. 6 May 2018 12: 44
    0
    [quote = voyaka uh] and the rules that accept it [/ quote]
    ITS RULES .. whose rules are if not a secret ??? bully These are the rules of the MEMBER under whom Israel ??? wassat
  13. watchmaker
    watchmaker 6 May 2018 13: 15
    0
    I won’t understand, f 35 is it cooler than our last dryers since the Turks so want to spend billions on them?
    1. Graz
      Graz 6 May 2018 13: 59
      0
      su 57 no one offers for export
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 6 May 2018 14: 48
      0
      There are new technologies that they, like the Indians, want.
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  15. Runoway
    Runoway 6 May 2018 13: 25
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    most likely will be offered MIG-35

    Nexus, with your knowledge of aviation, it’s inappropriate to talk about the 35th by ear
    At the moment, MiG has nothing to offer to the market
  16. den3080
    den3080 6 May 2018 13: 30
    +1
    I liked how Cavush Oglu answered the question of a Western journalist.
    Journalist:
    So will you still buy the S-400 from Russia?
    Chavush Oglu:
    In addition to what we already bought?

    Shut up without blinking an eye laughing
  17. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 6 May 2018 13: 38
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "And this will be the beginning of the collapse of the block" ///

    Countries must remain in NATO that understand why they need a bloc,
    and its accepting rules. What to keep random travel companions?

    Why do they need a block?
    HE KUZNETS is needed .. and for lack of opportunities to support their army, the weak fell under the strong
  18. Zina389
    Zina389 6 May 2018 14: 29
    0
    Let them leave NATO. Just impudent in the block, it’s not like impuding outside the block. Moreover, they have all American weapons ... and the whole economy is looking at the West.
    1. mvg
      mvg 6 May 2018 19: 21
      0
      And what do they have American, except for the F-16? And the old Patton that modernized Israel? In more detail. And the economy is strong, it can trade with anyone.
  19. KOLEGAN
    KOLEGAN 6 May 2018 14: 34
    0
    Well done Turks. That's how you need to talk with Ami and their Anglo-Saxon and East European litter. And then when these politicians begin to call our politicians "our partners", they are already turning up, even despite some requirements of diplomatic etiquette. Please pick up a replacement in the name of our sworn "partners" to be honest, we came up with the great - "girls with low social responsibility." That's what I understand - super!
  20. viktor.
    viktor. 6 May 2018 17: 12
    0
    Quote: watchmaker
    I won’t understand, f 35 is it cooler than our last dryers since the Turks so want to spend billions on them?

    hi Promoted brand. Imagine how much dough is spinning there and how much sheep’s wool are ready to cut off for themselves, but if you overwhelm it, it’ll just be something with something: something. wassat
  21. Vittt
    Vittt 6 May 2018 17: 18
    0
    Quote: Logall
    Buy a Su-35? - a worthy answer, in my opinion!

    Maybe they, like the Jews, know the cherished secret, how to make the LONELY trough (excuse me, but also called the 35th number) invisible. Otherwise, why be so angry? I think that Erdogan is approaching a high level of trolling, because he has a "golden key" from the Bosphorus!