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"Non-war war" of Russia and the West

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This oxymoron belongs to the political scientist Dmitry Trenin, who in the program “The Right to Know!” Dmitry Kulikov said that only the “military war” with the West remained untapped, that is, in all other areas there is already a “non-military war”.




The latest report from the “non-military war”: The Financial Times, a respected global publication, published an article reflecting on the fact that Vladimir Putin “reflects on the restoration of relations with the West, since sanctions and growing international conflict impede the recovery of the Russian economy.” For this, Aleksey Kudrin, our patented Westerner, will receive a post in the presidential administration, namely, the post of presidential envoy on international economic cooperation, an anonymous Moscow official told FT. There are other similar articles in the world fake media (according to Donald Trump) on the general theme: “Putin is looking for a compromise with the West,” in other words, almost gives up.

Since the West has many “sleeping friends” in Moscow, information about the possible appointment of Kudrin may turn out to be true, but does it follow from this that Putin is seeking a compromise with the West? Recall the usual tactics of misinformation: a piece of false information is attached to true information, or a false conclusion is drawn from it. Misinformation is, as a rule, a half-truth, otherwise it would not be effective.

In his March 1 speech, Vladimir Putin in fact threatened the West with a nuclear fist of the latest strategic weapons, in response to the US missile defense bases being moved to the borders of Russia and "guided chaos" bridgeheads. And he unequivocally offered to discuss the issue of mutual strategic security: “We have not been heard before, listen now.”

The West responded almost immediately: provocations against Russia, one after another, fell, moreover, in the form of a casus belli, reasons for war by accusing Russia of using chemical weapons The “newcomer” in England was allegedly poisoned by Skripale, indulging in the use of chemical weapons by Bashar Assad in Eastern Guta, which was the reason for the immediate US missile attack on Syria before any investigation.

Russia exposes these provocations by all available means, but does not respond with its missile strikes, having drawn red lines for the US that our expensive provocateurs were afraid to cross in Syria. Putin is not responding harshly to these provocations, apparently, for the time being to keep the door open for the strategic containment talks that he proposed on March 1. It is clear that a serious escalation of tensions with the West will make them impossible in principle.

These provocations, as well as the fundamental accusations of Russia of attempting to "on the foundations of Western democracy," toughening the war of sanctions, suggest that the deep political bureau of American democracy is so far refusing the negotiations proposed by Putin. But in the world of fake media, there were publications that the West is making a mistake, isolating Russia from itself, that it is necessary to somehow please Russia, to give it some kind of status in Western democracy. On the other hand, these simple thoughts complement articles in the spirit of the FT that Putin "is looking for a compromise with the West." And they all bypass the question of the negotiations, which were officially proposed by Putin in his March 1 speech. And then what are these "expert opinions"?

Moreover, throwing an alleged insider on the appointment of Alexei Kudrin to the presidential administration, especially if it is true, the FT in fact makes it difficult for Putin because the tail is attributed to him in the form of a “compromise with the West”.

As explanations for the “compromise with the West”, many reasons have been invented for Putin, from the notorious “economic recovery”, although the Russian economy has not actually fallen to the problem of maintaining power after the 2024 year, that is, when the cancer whistles. But there is one real reason that may push Moscow to maintain relations with the West, at least at the existing level, for which Putin may need a figure of Alexei Kudrin.

For Moscow, it is important to preserve the stability of these relations until 2020, when the Power of Siberia gas pipelines to China and the Turkish Stream gas pipeline, and maybe the Nord Stream 2, will be put into operation in order to unleash the Ukrainian transit. In 2020, Russia will practically get rid of financial dependence on the West, by seriously reorienting energy supplies to the East.

In other words, Russia needs relations with the West, in principle, only before 2020, but the remaining time needs to be spent with minimal costs. When Russia begins to consistently receive revenues for energy from Eastern markets, the need for Western markets will drop sharply. Russia is preparing to leave these markets because it cannot maintain relations with the West at the same level, which speaks white to black and white to black easily, which has once again proved the Skripale case and chemical provocations in Syria and in general, there is a “non-military war” between us.

Although there is no blessing without good: the “non-military war” translated into open form the secret war of the West against Russia using its “sleeping friends”, which he activated with the advent of Vladimir Putin to power. And in this open form there are certain advantages for us: it became better to see these “sleeping friends”.

I remember Andrei Illarionov, also a patented Westernizer, from 2000 to 2005. Putin was an adviser on economic issues, then resigned for lack of demand and because Russia began to turn into a “corporate state”, he said. From the "sleeping" he went into a frank anti-Putin opposition, where he is well and languishing. This precedent talks about how Putin can use Alexei Kudrin.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 7 May 2018 05: 52
    +10
    If Kudrin becomes the prime minister ... Then I will probably go to the forest ...
    1. Merold
      Merold 7 May 2018 08: 00
      +4
      Quote: Vard
      If Kudrin becomes the prime minister ... Then I will probably go to the forest ...

      If not for Kudrin, then you would have gone into the forest already in 2009-10. Without the stabilization fund created by Kudrin, as almost all economists have noted, collapse in the economy would have awaited Russia.
      1. Vard
        Vard 7 May 2018 08: 10
        +7
        If Kudrin weren’t ... then the stab fund would not be needed ...
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 08: 12
          +2
          Quote: Vard
          If Kudrin weren’t ... then the stab fund would not be needed ...

          What about the examples?
          PS: Russia now has the only hope in the economy for Kudrin. As was without him, I think everyone can see.
          PS 2: By the way, unlike all the Medvedevs, Rogozins, Mutko and others - he did not hold onto the chair and left by himself.
          1. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 7 May 2018 08: 39
            +7
            “By the way, unlike all the Medvedevs, Rogozins, Mutko and others - he didn’t hold onto the chair and left by himself ???”
            Mr. Kudrin resented spending on the military-industrial complex and complained to the United States that Medvedev would not work with those who allowed such expenses. Therefore, Medvedev, as head of government, fired that gentleman.
            And the return to the government of Kudrin is the strengthening of the economic colonization of the country.
            1. Merold
              Merold 7 May 2018 09: 03
              +2
              Quote: olimpiada15
              “By the way, unlike all the Medvedevs, Rogozins, Mutko and others - he didn’t hold onto the chair and left by himself ???”

              Exactly. Kudrin wrote a letter of resignation, Medvedev satisfied him.

              Quote: olimpiada15

              Mr. Kudrin resented spending on the military-industrial complex and complained to the United States that Medvedev would not work with those who allowed such expenses.

              Who did he complain to? He was asked - he answered.
              Quote: olimpiada15

              Mr. Kudrin resented spending on the military-industrial complex.

              He did not resent, but said that the economy would not pull such expenses. And who was right?
              Quote: olimpiada15

              And the return to the government of Kudrin is the strengthening of the economic colonization of the country.

              The economic colonization of the country is right outside your window.
              There is no money for projects, modernization, investments ... Russia now depends on the West even on seed. Where then?
          2. victor50
            victor50 7 May 2018 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: Merold
            What about the examples?
            And you, not a word is an example ?! Wasteland!
          3. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 7 May 2018 09: 55
            +4
            Quote: Merold
            Russia now has the only hope in the economy for Kudrin. As was without him, I think everyone can see.

            But I pray to Stalin at night ...
            1. Merold
              Merold 7 May 2018 11: 28
              +3
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Quote: Merold
              Russia now has the only hope in the economy for Kudrin. As was without him, I think everyone can see.

              But I pray to Stalin at night ...

              This is because you can do nothing except from under a stick.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 7 May 2018 17: 13
                +3
                Quote: Merold
                This is because you can do nothing except from under a stick.

                Are you talking to me?? surgeon with a scientific degree ??? you have a castration bonus wink
                1. Merold
                  Merold 8 May 2018 07: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Quote: Merold
                  This is because you can do nothing except from under a stick.

                  Are you talking to me?? surgeon with a scientific degree ??? you have a castration bonus wink

                  And how does the fact that you are a "surgeon with a scientific degree" cancel the ability to work only from under a stick?
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 8 May 2018 18: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: Merold
                    And how does the fact that you are a "surgeon with a scientific degree" cancel the ability to work only from under a stick?

                    Unfortunately, you do not understand anything about this.
                    Quote: Merold
                    This is because you can do nothing except from under a stick.

                    the fact that a person has a degree indicates the highest qualifications, lifelong incidentally and the ability to work in any conditions, achieving results.
                    And he prays to Stalin, so it's rhetorical. I’m not for myself - I pray for the country. It is understood that in the country there is no mechanism for shooting enemies of the people.
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 9 May 2018 06: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Quote: Merold
                      And how does the fact that you are a "surgeon with a scientific degree" cancel the ability to work only from under a stick?

                      Unfortunately, you do not understand anything about this.
                      the fact that a person has a degree indicates the highest qualifications, lifelong incidentally and the ability to work in any conditions, achieving results.

                      The same Dissernet, on the example of Russian officials, disagrees with you. And the fact that you personally have a real degree (I personally do not doubt it) does not guarantee that you are working out of the stick.
                      Examples? Please: The same Rogozin, "supervising", "taking under personal control," etc. the space industry and the "achievements" in it lately. Do you think he has more degrees than you do?
                      Unfortunately you don’t know anything about it

                      feel
                      1. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 9 May 2018 10: 25
                        0
                        how do you right to bite the hunt !! And in my opinion it all started with Comrade Stalin ... and your perception of it. You see, the Leader was actually an example of working capacity. He was talented. At the age of 10, he wrote poems that were included in the anthology of Georgian literature of the time, he read 400 pages of texts a day for life, had a photographic memory .. and was quite critical of himself. Worked for the Idea. The same demanded from others ....
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 7 May 2018 09: 53
        +8
        Quote: Merold
        Without the stabilization fund created by Kudrin

        The stabilization fund is just a pocket with money. Kudrin created a pocket but not money. The money was created from the sale of resources and Kudrin has nothing to do with it.
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 11: 28
          +2
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Quote: Merold
          Without the stabilization fund created by Kudrin

          The stabilization fund is just a pocket with money. Kudrin created a pocket but not money. The money was created from the sale of resources and Kudrin has nothing to do with it.

          Thanks to the economist.
        2. Merold
          Merold 9 May 2018 11: 18
          +1
          Quote: aybolyt678
          how do you right to bite the hunt !!.

          Nothing like this. You just give your degree as an indicator, and I give an example that it is not an indicator. I personally have nothing against you.
          Stalin is the executioner of his own people. This is not even discussed.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 9 May 2018 22: 28
            0
            Quote: Merold
            Stalin is the executioner of his own people. This is not even discussed.

            According to the Memorial Society, 4700 thousand people were repressed. 800 thousand of them were shot. For 23 years from 1930 to 1953, taking into account the war. As a result, we have a figure of 204 thousand people planted annually on political and economic issues. We are dying from drugs half as much, and now sitting more than a million.
            But this is a Memorial figure. The bulk of historians is based on a figure that gives official statistics is 2700 thousand for 23 years. I think that you are a victim of Mass Idiots. Turn on your brain ... when Stalin died the whole country was crying. My parents told me about this. Under Stalin, there was a Goal; there was responsibility for the failure to fulfill state tasks; there was discipline and a dream. The system of relations that Stalin built will still be revived around the world when the oil runs out because without it, humanity will simply perish. Or am I throwing beads ??
            1. Dora2014
              Dora2014 10 May 2018 14: 18
              0
              Do not waste time on the wretched, dear Aibolit. It is said in the Gospel: "Do not throw pearls before the pigs and do not give your shrine to the dogs ..." - in short, do not do this, nothing good will come of it.
          2. Dora2014
            Dora2014 10 May 2018 14: 15
            0
            How hard your insight will be ... If it comes, of course.
            1. Merold
              Merold 10 May 2018 14: 58
              0
              Quote: Dora2014
              How hard your insight will be ... If it comes, of course.

              Do you have enough pensions? Do not delay?
      3. andj61
        andj61 7 May 2018 10: 53
        +5
        Quote: Merold
        Quote: Vard
        If Kudrin becomes the prime minister ... Then I will probably go to the forest ...

        If not for Kudrin, then you would have gone into the forest already in 2009-10. Without the stabilization fund created by Kudrin, as almost all economists have noted, collapse in the economy would have awaited Russia.

        Correctly! The policy pursued by the liberal economic bloc of the government without a stabilization fund would lead to a severe crisis at the end of 2008-2009. And if instead of the restrictions on government spending these funds would be directed to the real sector of the economy? In the construction of roads, other infrastructure, in the development of engineering and machine tools, etc. Due to the incomes of the "fat" years, it was possible to restart the economy no longer on a raw material basis. Perhaps, in this case, the crisis would not have affected Russia too much ... hi
        1. Merold
          Merold 7 May 2018 11: 30
          +1
          Quote: andj61
          But what if instead of restrictions on government spending, would these funds be directed to the real sector of the economy? In the construction of roads, other infrastructure, in the development of engineering and machine tools, etc. Due to the incomes of the "fat" years, it was possible to restart the economy no longer on a raw material basis. Perhaps, in this case, the crisis would not have affected Russia too much ... hi

          This is not a question for the Minister of Finance, but also for the Minister of Economic Development, etc.
          1. andj61
            andj61 7 May 2018 11: 37
            +5
            Quote: Merold
            This is not a question for the Minister of Finance, but also for the Minister of Economic Development, etc.

            From 2000 to 2007 - in the fattest years, Gref was the Minister of Economic Development. In terms of pushing liberal ideas in the economy, he will give Kudrin 100 points forward. And the two of them very much tried to ensure that there was no real development of the economy, and that there was an "effective integration of Russia into the international system of division of labor" - just for the role of the notorious regional gas station! hi
            1. Merold
              Merold 7 May 2018 11: 46
              +2
              Quote: andj61
              And the two of them very much tried to ensure that there was no real development of the economy, and that there was an "effective integration of Russia into the international system of division of labor" - just for the role of the notorious regional gas station! hi

              And Russia was ready in these years to lay claim to the world leader in high technology, but did the evil Kudrin forbid it?
              1. andj61
                andj61 7 May 2018 11: 58
                +2
                Quote: Merold
                And Russia was ready in these years to lay claim to the world leader in high technology, but did the evil Kudrin forbid it?

                Here we are not talking about high technology, but about financing certain sectors of the real economy. We need to build roads - we made and paid for the order, and in such a way we spent it so that the equipment of our production was mainly used - a whole industry would immediately be spurred on. We needed a new industrialization, and money was withdrawn from the country and invested in the economy of Western countries. During the crisis, this money served as an airbag, but in a simple way were corny eaten up. And the development of the economy, state participation in the development of industry would smooth out the crisis. After all, our industry - namely industry, and not the raw materials complex - is geared towards domestic consumption. This auspicious time was lost due to curls and grefs. hi
                1. Merold
                  Merold 7 May 2018 12: 25
                  0
                  Quote: andj61
                  Quote: Merold
                  And Russia was ready in these years to lay claim to the world leader in high technology, but did the evil Kudrin forbid it?

                  Here we are not talking about high technology, but about financing certain sectors of the real economy. We need to build roads - we made and paid for the order, and in such a way we spent it so that the equipment of our production was mainly used - a whole industry would immediately be spurred on. We needed a new industrialization, and money was withdrawn from the country and invested in the economy of Western countries. During the crisis, this money served as an airbag, but in a simple way were corny eaten up. And the development of the economy, state participation in the development of industry would smooth out the crisis. After all, our industry - namely industry, and not the raw materials complex - is geared towards domestic consumption. This auspicious time was lost due to curls and grefs. hi

                  Once again for you: Kudrin made sure that the economy would not fall apart in a crisis. Kudrin has attracted hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in the country's economy. To develop the economy and invest in high technology, engineering, etc. not the task of the Minister of Finance.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 7 May 2018 15: 10
                    +2
                    Quote: Merold
                    Once again for you: Kudrin made sure that the economy would not fall apart in a crisis. Kudrin has attracted hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in the country's economy. To develop the economy and invest in high technology, engineering, etc. not the task of the Minister of Finance.

                    Kudrin made the economy not fall apart in a crisis. But due to what? Due to artificial containment of the development of production in Russia. That is, state money that could go to invest in the economy went to invest in the economy of Western countries, primarily the United States. Instead of using his own money, he advocated the development of his own economy through foreign investment. But after all, they invest only where it is profitable for them (in the zero it was the raw materials sector), but not at all where the country needs it.
                    Did Kudrin personally attract hundreds of billions of investments? Very doubtful! If only ALL investments in our economy during the period of the galloping growth of oil quotes are attributed to him!
                    He became minister in May 2000, dismissed in September 2011. And what investments were made during this period? 2000 - 11 billion, 2001 - 14,3, 2002 - 19,8, 2003 - 29,7, 2004 -40,5, 2005 - 53,7, 2006 -55,1. And where did he personally attract hundreds of billions? More than hundreds of billions of investments a year began to be received only in 2007. Keep in mind that thanks to the liberalization - even compared to the times of Yeltsin - of foreign trade financial policy, hundreds of billions annually flowed out of the country in the form of non-receipt of foreign exchange earnings from the export of goods or as payment for undelivered goods. And this was precisely what his ministry was doing.
                    Everything in this world has a price. The price of the stabilization fund as an airbag for the country is the lack of additional development opportunities. They would invest money for the development of the economy - and the stabilization fund might not be needed. Transferring billions to the stabilization fund, Kudrin thereby strangled the development of the economy. This is again for you. hi
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 7 May 2018 15: 44
                      0
                      Quote: andj61

                      Kudrin made the economy not fall apart in a crisis. But due to what? Due to artificial containment of the development of production in Russia. That is, state money that could go to invest in the economy went to invest in the economy of Western countries, primarily the United States.

                      Kudrin for the "airbag" (which has fully justified itself) invested money there - from where they could be taken at any time without losing and even making money on it.
                      Instead of using his own money, he advocated the development of his own economy through foreign investment.

                      All over the world they are trying to attract foreign investment, what doesn’t suit you?
                      But after all, they invest only where it suits them, but not where the country needs it.

                      "Logic" at 5! So you create the conditions for investing "where you need" and people will reach for you. Or do you want foreign investors to invest not where they can make money, but where they incur losses and give you something to enjoy?
                      hundreds of billions annually flowed out of the country in the form of non-receipt of foreign exchange earnings from the export of goods or as payment for undelivered goods.

                      I am sure there will be no examples again?
                      Everything in this world has a price. The price of the stabilization fund as an airbag for the country is the lack of additional development opportunities. They would invest money for the development of the economy - and the stabilization fund might not be needed.

                      Kudrin has been absent for 7 years. During this time, there were only tears from the stabilization fund and others, but they weren’t investing in the economy, foreign investments with Gulkin’s nose and the development of the country and without Kudrin didn’t make much headway. Miracles and more!
                  2. Plate
                    Plate 7 May 2018 16: 26
                    +1
                    Kudrin attracted hundreds of billions of dollars in investment to the country's economy.

                    Foreign. How much was invested in real production from the state budget under Kudrin?
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 7 May 2018 16: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Plate
                      Kudrin attracted hundreds of billions of dollars in investment to the country's economy.

                      Foreign. How much was invested in real production from the state budget under Kudrin?

                      Soap - Bast? Ask the then Minister of Economic Development.
                      1. Plate
                        Plate 7 May 2018 20: 52
                        +1
                        First, Kudrin could try to influence a colleague. Secondly, as far as I know, the Ministry of Finance, in which Kudrin met, deals with the budget.
                  3. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 10 May 2018 11: 09
                    0
                    Quote: Merold
                    Kudrin has attracted hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in the country's economy

                    but can you give at least one example of a successful investment, meaning of course those that give a cartoon effect ???
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 10 May 2018 12: 00
                      0
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Quote: Merold
                      Kudrin has attracted hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in the country's economy

                      but can you give at least one example of a successful investment, meaning of course those that give a cartoon effect ???

                      First, explain to me what you mean by
                      Cartoon effect (Multiplier effect) - this is a change in the equilibrium level of national income in a larger amount than the initiating change in planned costs.

                      in relation to investments attracted by Kudrin.
                      1. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 10 May 2018 19: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Merold
                        First explain to me

                        for example: in order to start production of a spare part, it is necessary to develop it — a design engineer, to obtain material or for example the alloy from which it needs to be made — is already an additional production, and if not only a spare part and a finished product requires an entire industry.
                        In Elabuga there is a "factory" that produces imported engines for which crankcases are cast there ... It seems but finally, but not .. there are no our designers, engineers, there are only sweepers and security guards, They consume our electricity, do not pay duties, they do not need specialists in machine tools, etc. In the end: what gives such a plant? yes this is a disguised screwdriver production. It is like a state in a state. And a strong competitor .. Because of such investments, our education is not in demand, etc ...
                        How can I go to the forum without understanding basic things ???
      4. icant007
        icant007 7 May 2018 20: 05
        +1
        Yes, a great talent man. He knew how to fold money into a little bottle wink
        1. Merold
          Merold 10 May 2018 19: 53
          0
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Quote: Merold
          First explain to me

          for example: in order to start production of a spare part, it is necessary to develop it — a design engineer, to obtain material or for example the alloy from which it needs to be made — is already an additional production, and if not only a spare part and a finished product requires an entire industry.
          In Elabuga there is a "factory" that produces imported engines for which crankcases are cast there ... It seems but finally, but not .. there are no our designers, engineers, there are only sweepers and security guards, They consume our electricity, do not pay duties, they do not need specialists in machine tools, etc. In the end: what gives such a plant? yes this is a disguised screwdriver production. It is like a state in a state. And a strong competitor .. Because of such investments, our education is not in demand, etc ...

          I will definitely answer you (though you don’t like the answer). I just want to ask you again, where does the Multiplier effect have to do with it? What sideways "change in the equilibrium level of national income in a larger amount than initiating a change in planned costs" refers to your example?
          How can I go to the forum without understanding basic things ???

          Are you writing this to me seriously?
          1. icant007
            icant007 10 May 2018 21: 25
            0
            You redirect the answer. They didn’t write to that. And then the person will not hear.
    2. Nix1986
      Nix1986 7 May 2018 08: 57
      +1
      And it didn’t occur to me that the idea of ​​a stabilization fund is not only Kudrin’s personal initiative, such decisions are not taken directly by just one minister! And if it weren’t for the stabilization fund, the vast majority of social obligations in 2008/2014 would cry.
      1. max702
        max702 7 May 2018 11: 55
        +1
        Quote: Nix1986
        And if it weren’t for the stabilization fund, the vast majority of social obligations in 2008/2014 would cry.

        All this type of stability was aimed at ONE but MEGA business, namely, under state guarantees to take loans in the West at 3-5% per annum and give them at 15-25% .. Profit, taking into account defaults and other things, inspires, and at the same time it inspires You don’t have to do anything .. That’s why the fight against inflation has become a sacred cow, and the fact that the country was half dead without money for the most important projects didn’t bother anyone, the main thing is that there are record gold and foreign exchange reserves that allow borrowing at the lowest interest rate in the West .. The fact that by such actions the last juices were squeezed out of the country, leading everything to a standstill, the above gentlemen did not care, during this MMM they brought profit to themselves and their owners of such a size that bargaining is not appropriate here ... so there is no need for a stab fund and other nonsense ..
        1. Nix1986
          Nix1986 7 May 2018 11: 58
          +1
          I confess to ask, and who are these Lord that squeezed all the juices and who are their owners ?!
          1. max702
            max702 7 May 2018 12: 31
            0
            Quote: Nix1986
            I confess to ask, and who are these Lord that squeezed all the juices and who are their owners ?!

            Take a look at the Forbes list and see these gentlemen, alas, you will not find hosts in the open lists ..
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 10 May 2018 19: 48
            0
            Quote: Nix1986
            I confess to ask, who are these gentlemen,

            these Lord from the Central Bank not only from the leadership but from the owners. And Shyness is a sign of recognition of one’s own inferiority
    3. Dam
      Dam 7 May 2018 16: 28
      0
      I dare to hope that finally Kudrin will go down the forest, like the rest of the liberoministers
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 May 2018 06: 23
    +1
    If Kudrin becomes the prime minister, Russia's economic growth will amount to several percent a year. As was the case with him. If my memory serves me, I advise you simply to “raise” these statistics ... I really don’t like him, he says things that are unpleasant to me personally ... But the economy, this is such a ruthless thing ... Which says - if there’s nothing to take from, then Do not need...
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 7 May 2018 10: 26
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But the economy, this is such a ruthless thing ... Which says - if there is nothing to take from, then it is not necessary ...

      First, when Kudrin replaced the petrodollar with the ruble, and no one noticed this.
      Secondly, GDP is considered equating oil and gas dollars with phones and cars.
      Thirdly, the revolution is a ruthless thing that says: the expropriation of the expropriated !! laughing
    2. max702
      max702 9 May 2018 10: 32
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      If Kudrin becomes the prime minister, Russia's economic growth will amount to several percent a year. As was the case with him. If my memory serves me, I advise you simply to “raise” these statistics ... I really don’t like him, he says things that are unpleasant to me personally ... But the economy, this is such a ruthless thing ... Which says - if there’s nothing to take from, then Do not need...

      Remember the old parable about the “talent” This is when the master went to war and three of his faithful slaves left each with a golden “talent” (I hope that this is known), when years later he returned and asked the first what did you do with what was left to you? He answered I invested it in a forge and built a farm and they now make good profit, asked the second one he answered I invested in a trade caravan and he brought a little profit, he asked the third one, and how did you do it, he answered, and I kept my talent buried him in the ground ... That's where the expression went to bury talent in the ground ... Kudrin in the government is to bury talent in the ground, and given that "Stability is a sign of decline" such as Kudrin need to hang! .. The windows of the overtone are not infinite, over the years of taxiing Kudrin could provide growth not at interest (at 100 bucks / barrel) but completely reform the economy and industry in the country .. But first you need to be able to do this, and secondly WORK! Kudrin and the company do not know how to first or second ..
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 9 May 2018 22: 30
        +1
        Quote: max702
        Golden "talent" (I hope in the know what it is)

        talent in ancient Athens is the cost of a specialist slave, hence the modern meaning
        1. max702
          max702 9 May 2018 23: 24
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          Quote: aybolyt678
          talent in ancient Athens is the cost of a specialist slave, hence the modern meaning

          No, it's 25 kg of gold .. On average ...
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 9 May 2018 23: 30
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          Quote: aybolyt678
          talent in ancient Athens is the cost specialist slave

          Ooh, yoyo ... and this who it? belay
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 9 May 2018 23: 46
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            and who is this?

            These are women with reduced social responsibility, not otherwise. laughing
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 May 2018 19: 53
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Russian economy growth

      Russian economic growth is measured in GDP. And GDP is a crafty indicator that equates cars with oil, phones with gas. In our case, there will be a price for oil, there will be a "growth" in production.
  3. polikarpich
    polikarpich 7 May 2018 06: 27
    +2
    Counteraction is equal to the force of action and directed back to it. The author does not understand the country in which he lives at all.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 May 2018 06: 48
    +3
    This precedent talks about how Putin can use Alexei Kudrin
    Hopefully as a "wedding general." Wait and see, today is the inauguration, and there is the formation of the government.
  5. Altona
    Altona 7 May 2018 07: 16
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    What self-such and advisers. He will be appointed by the new Government, the same as the previous one, helpless, toothless and inept, which at the first economic "breeze" seeks to get into the workers' pocket.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 7 May 2018 08: 06
      +2
      Yes .... about the Government of the type: "Government Primakov, Maslyukov, Gerashchenko" -it is necessary only to dream .... sad
  6. Nix1986
    Nix1986 7 May 2018 07: 21
    +2
    The author forgets that China is a separate state with its own personal interests, and we are not the only supplier of hydrocarbons, and besides, who said that it would receive the population from the new distribution channels, not just Gazprom ?! In general, the author’s thought “to reach 2020, and there everything will be nishtyak” is very primitive.
  7. Arkady Gaidar
    Arkady Gaidar 7 May 2018 07: 55
    +2
    From the "Power of Siberia" and "Turkish Stream" the main financial resources will not receive the budget of the Russian Federation. So the financial system of any country is not so much dependent on international financial dependence. Except in cases when it is enslaved by a tight peg to international currencies, or international loans. And besides Kudrin, in the Russian government, every second "mishandled Cossack." Recall attempts to create a ruble-yuan currency pair without participating in the calculations of the US dollar and the euro. Did anything good come out of this sound idea? And thanks to whom Russia and China could not agree on such an important economic issue ?!
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 7 May 2018 14: 05
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      Quote: Arkady Gaidar
      From the "Power of Siberia"

      And what do you know about the “Power of Siberia”? Damn, google topics before writing. At the moment, "The Power of Siberia" - UNDERSTANDING! China, using the current situation, agrees only at a price for gas that is unprofitable for Russia. At the same time, it is increasing its own production and, for a moment, increasing energy exports from the United States.
      1. Arkady Gaidar
        Arkady Gaidar 7 May 2018 16: 29
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        Actually, I know what you said about the Power of Siberia. And I meant something else. The territories through which the gas pipe will pass are redeemed into private ownership. Therefore, in addition to the low gas price, the supplier will have to pay a high rent. In places, it comes to the fact that the pipe supports themselves and pipes are bought out. The government knows this. relatives of officials and close friends of our government are precisely engaged in this "business", or rather fraudulent collusion.
        The United States has a high gas price. Add to this the delivery. So China is bluffing in this trade. But this also suggests that our rulers have sold offal, once they agree to such unprofitable conditions. So "every second mishandled Cossack", I downplayed that hi
        Yes, by the way, they sell the people's wealth for pennies, and our people are silent))
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 7 May 2018 20: 07
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          Quote: Arkady Gaidar
          The United States has a high gas price. Add to this the delivery. So China is bluffing in this trade.

          Bluffing or not bluffing, this is not known to science. But, in fact, deliveries have grown significantly.
          1. Arkady Gaidar
            Arkady Gaidar 7 May 2018 21: 19
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            The "mattresses" are linked to China by many joint ventures. Many factories in China belong to citizens of the United States and a united Europe. And of course, they’re not going to “feed” our budget and the oligarchs. I initially made accents on another. But since it’s interesting to you, I remind you that large deposits of our own natural gas have been found in China. And they are already starting to develop. And that's why the Russian "Power of Siberia" will be in full operation. Therefore, the Chinese will not pay the price, which will suit Russia. The Russian government initially launched a project that had little chance of success! That is the trick.
  8. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 7 May 2018 09: 49
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    a real “bellie incident” would be if Russia nationalized foreign trade complexes in Russia.
  9. Larum
    Larum 7 May 2018 12: 20
    +1
    Putin seems to have repeatedly called Kudrin a friend. It turns out that all these critics are against Putin?
  10. Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 May 2018 13: 55
    +1
    In his first March speech, Vladimir Putin actually threatened the West with the nuclear fist of the latest strategic weapons

    Public rhetoric of politicians can never guarantee that real policies will be pursued exactly as stated. These are just words aimed at a specific audience. But the audience, which does not have the slightest idea of ​​the real deal, is just dying with joy.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 May 2018 19: 56
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      Yes
      Quote: Normal ok
      These are just words aimed at a specific audience.

      a feeling that this is for us, the Russians, such as we are strong.
  11. akudr48
    akudr48 10 May 2018 11: 49
    +1
    Personalization of systemic problems on figures such as Illarionov and even! Kudrin himself, this is the next track of explanations aside from the real sources of the catastrophe in which Russia rushes into.

    These and similar siskins, such as Nabiulina (also a tiger ..), never decided anything on their own, none of the "masters" of the country entrusted them with such a thing, and "turns" to the West or East do not depend on them. And they know their sixth, they strictly conduct their business to enrich the insignificant upper word due to the total suppression of the lower classes.

    And it’s already fantastic to read that, the country will heal, "when Russia begins to steadily receive energy revenues from eastern markets, the need for western markets will drop sharply".

    And our "elite" will also live near Shanghai, or where?

    Moreover, this will happen about the same time when the cancer on the mountain whistles.

    You need to dig deeper, more ...

    Although all the answers are on the surface, you only need to look at least at least at the government with the main construction - Mutko.
    And everything will become clear about the cunning and other plans of our leader beyond the world level ....
  12. Merold
    Merold 11 May 2018 09: 48
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    aybolyt678,
    I wrote to you above.