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According to the plans. 31-th separate Guards DSHB reformatted into 104-th Guards DSD

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By 2023, in accordance with the construction plan of the Airborne Forces, it is planned to reorganize the 31-th separate Guards air-assault brigade into the 104-th Guards air-assault division, said on Saturday the head of the Duma defense committee Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov.


According to the plans. 31-th separate Guards DSHB reformatted into 104-th Guards DSD


Today, when the plan for the construction of the Airborne Forces to 2030 has been approved, we should expect that by the 25 anniversary of the brigade in 2023 we will revive the 104 th assault division which plans to occupy three cities - Ulyanovsk, Penza and Orenburg
- said Shamanov.

We will also revive the legendary 345, which successfully carried out combat missions in Afghanistan. It will be a tribute to the heroism and heroism of these wonderful people.
- added the head of the committee.

Shamanov noted the crucial role of 31 brigade personnel in the fact that “polite people” began to be called servicemen in Russian society.

You did this by returning Crimea to your native harbor
- stressed the head of the State Duma Committee, addressing paratroopers standing in line at a solemn meeting on the occasion of the 25 anniversary of the redeployment of the XNUM Guards Airborne Order of Kutuzov Second Division from the Republic of Azerbaijan to Ulyanovsk and the 104 anniversary of the formation of the succession of XUMNUM a separate Guards air assault brigade.

I bow to you, success in military and political training and faith in the future of Russia
- Shamanov wished.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 5 May 2018 17: 55
    +8
    Again increase the strength of Uncle Vasya (Airborne Forces). So it is numb to "partners".
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      1. cniza
        cniza 5 May 2018 18: 39
        +4
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Again increase the strength of Uncle Vasya (Airborne Forces). So it is numb to "partners".


        Otherwise, "partners" can not be reasoned.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 5 May 2018 19: 08
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          do not reason.

          If by "reason" it means savory plop in lobatin - I agree. repeat
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 May 2018 21: 17
            +2
            They do not understand other methods and methods.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 5 May 2018 21: 20
              +2
              This is not even discussed. I do not want to compare their psychology with the gopniks again.
              1. cniza
                cniza 5 May 2018 21: 22
                +2
                And they don’t cost another, you can safely ...
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 5 May 2018 21: 27
                  +1
                  If you come across a gopot, you know: give their leader a portrait - the rest are immediately lost and go out.
    2. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 5 May 2018 18: 22
      +7
      Taburetkin didn’t feed out formations, schools from a great mind! The main thing is to keep within the plan. And the fact that the Orenburg "Anti-aircraft gun" trained officers for the ground forces. And what kind of people! Hero of Russia Prokhorenko, he studied there! 15 guards etc. from the Czech city of Milovice to Chebarkul. Operation Danube and the Chechen company didn’t let us down! 10 Ural-Lviv Guards. etc! ....
      1. onix757
        onix757 5 May 2018 18: 33
        +5
        He didn’t do it from his mind. The main task of stripping was the abolition of the traditions of the SA and the succession of generations in the Armed Forces
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 6 May 2018 07: 20
        +1
        Quote: Evgeniy667b
        And the fact that the Orenburg "Anti-aircraft gun" trained officers for the ground forces. And what kind of people!

        Did we have at least one military school without a glorious history and graduates?
    3. demo
      demo 5 May 2018 20: 01
      +6
      In response to the reconstruction of the US 2nd Fleet, we responded by re-creating the 104th Air Assault Division.
      I have the opinion that this is not an answer, in general, to attacks and threats of the West.
      The Russian leadership in the person of Putin is looking for the most reliable "points of support" in society. And these cornerstones can only be the heroic past of our people.
      And this is the right decision.
      And if it were possible to recreate all previously known and thundering throughout the Union military units, then ............ then this is not worth dreaming about.
      Another time, other challenges.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 5 May 2018 22: 19
        +4
        Quote: demo
        In response to the reconstruction of the US 2nd Fleet, we responded by re-creating the 104th Air Assault Division.

        We, in return, better show something wink
        For example, here it is in Kaliningrad wink
    4. leo3972
      leo3972 5 May 2018 21: 27
      +4
      For Uncle Vasya drinks
    5. 73bor
      73bor 6 May 2018 00: 37
      0
      Very timely, we must accordingly form another BTA regiment! am
    6. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 6 May 2018 08: 19
      +5
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Again increase the strength of Uncle Vasya (Airborne Forces). So it is numb to "partners".

      No crazy monkey will jump on the strong and courageous. weak and cowardly slop cat bites! It is necessary, necessary to be strong and courageous ... Our country has such a fate! In Sevastopol, even in case of danger, kittens take arms in their paws!
  2. jovanni
    jovanni 5 May 2018 17: 57
    +4
    I bow to you, success in military and political training and faith in the future of Russia
    - Shamanov wished.

    I join the combat general. You can’t tell better ...
  3. Storming the Washington
    Storming the Washington 5 May 2018 18: 06
    +1
    having breakfast in Riga; having lunch in Berlin soldier urgent need to build additional fountains
  4. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 5 May 2018 18: 10
    +4
    ... success in combat and political training ...

    Decades pass, and we are still preparing “politically”. And so we live in the past without hope for a brighter future.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 May 2018 18: 40
      +9
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      And so we live in the past without hope for a brighter future.

      Oh, trouble is a disaster ... So, after all, it is not far from suicide. laughing wassat
      1. Ropusk
        Ropusk 7 May 2018 10: 38
        +1
        If this misunderstanding leaves our bright world (it would be nice to have no posterity yet), the world will breathe a sigh of relief. 2018 Darwin Award. smile
    2. Hire
      Hire 5 May 2018 18: 42
      +12
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      And so we live in the past without hope for a brighter future.

      Why are you tormented? Refer to the experience of Europe. There have long been invented euthanasia.
    3. Pissarro
      Pissarro 5 May 2018 18: 43
      +3
      And in the bright future will everyone be politically illiterate?
    4. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 5 May 2018 21: 32
      +3
      What's the problem? Finance and speed up. You can not? So why pour tears and snot?
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    5. Glory1974
      Glory1974 6 May 2018 09: 18
      0
      we are still "politically" preparing

      in fact, there has been no political training for a long time. There is a public-state.
  5. Tank hard
    Tank hard 5 May 2018 18: 23
    0
    Good news.
  6. Retired2012
    Retired2012 5 May 2018 18: 26
    +1
    And what and where .... for what ....
  7. passerby
    passerby 5 May 2018 18: 26
    0
    The main thing is not to overdo it with an increase in the number of aircraft. There should be a reasonable approach to this issue, taking into account the country's capabilities and the tasks facing the army.
  8. faterdom
    faterdom 5 May 2018 18: 28
    +2
    Good trend. Both in the Ground Forces and in the paratroopers divisions are revived, large tactical formations capable of solving large tasks (on a tactical level). And brigades are formations for specialists, from artillery, communications, transport to special forces (intelligence).
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 May 2018 10: 11
      0
      Added staff positions, new salary rates.
      And the number of soldiers will increase?
      Brigades can be staffed with contract soldiers up to 100%, and a division is unrealistic.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 10: 37
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Brigades can be staffed with contractors up to 100%

        But why?
        Quote: voyaka uh
        and the division is unrealistic

        Deep thought ... do not explain the qualitative difference between the brigade and the division? About the "quantity" I know, if that.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 May 2018 10: 48
          0
          For the division to work, it must be
          fully equipped. In the US Army
          three, if not mistaken, deployed in peacetime
          infantry divisions. In the Marine Corps - brigades.
          In Russia, an appeal for 1 year. Not enough for paratroopers.
          And it’s unrealistic to recruit divisions of contractors under the current
          demographics in Russia. Therefore unloved comrade Taburetkin
          realistically turned unfinished divisions into trained and
          staffed brigades.
          And Shoiga again returned to the "paper" divisions with headquarters and without soldiers.
          1. onix757
            onix757 6 May 2018 10: 51
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And it’s unrealistic to recruit divisions of contractors under the current
            demographics in Russia

            From what. Lack of work is a guaranteed source of replenishment of the ranks of aircraft by contractors.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 May 2018 11: 21
              0
              It's right. But usually at the same time, the quality of the contractors falls.
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 10: 54
            +5
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For the division to "work", it must be fully equipped

            Another "deep" thought ...
            And what is a "non-working" division, and how does it differ from a "working" one? About cropped and other - do not, I'm in the know.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            А recruit contract divisions unrealistic with the current demography in Russia

            It starts ...
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Brigades can be staffed with contractors up to 100%, and the division is unrealistic

            There was one division, now there are many ... You already decide, perhaps ...
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Shoiga again returned to the "paper" divisions with headquarters and without soldiers

            That is, to cropped? In what dream you saw it, it’s interesting ...
            Warrior, that's all ... trepidation and nothing, sorry my French. I would have tied in your place, a specific weak position request
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 May 2018 11: 02
              0
              "it's all ... trepidation and nothing, sorry my French" ///

              I agree. So you - the same trepidation. I spoke out that
              brigades in today's Russia will be more effective than divisions. I tried to explain why. You didn’t like it. It happens... fellow
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 11: 09
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                I spoke out that brigades in today's Russia will be more effective than divisions. I tried to explain why

                Here you spoke out?
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Brigades can be staffed with contractors up to 100%, and the division is unrealistic

                Well, you can call it that, of course ... although there’s not much to be said about efficiency.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                you have the same trepidation

                Nearly.
                I tried to find out what is under your, as it seems to me, indisputable statement.
                You answer leading questions with new unfounded allegations, but here it is -
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Shoiga again returned to the "paper" divisions with headquarters and without soldiers

                the essence is direct, ahem ... well, you understand.
                And so, yes, of course -
                Quote: voyaka uh
                the same trepidation

                wink
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 6 May 2018 11: 20
                  0
                  Sorry, your posts are empty. You can
                  dissect, what I wrote, at the level of each word,
                  if you don’t get bored, I don’t mind. fellow hi
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 11: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Sorry, your posts are empty

                    Unlike you, a warrior, I’m responsible for my words and I’m not writing explicit crap.
                    Those who wish to refute - a flag in their hands and a kaylo in their teeth.
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    dissect, what I wrote

                    It didn’t rest against me, to dissect idle chatter.
                    Good luck hi
              2. Cannonball
                Cannonball 6 May 2018 13: 51
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                brigades in today's Russia will be more effective than divisions.

                Oh don't tell me.
                In fact, the brigade is a reinforced regiment — three airborne battalions, a howitzer division, an anti-aircraft missile battery, an ATGM battery and other companies, platoons and squads.
                And a division is a force — two or three air assault regiments, an artillery regiment, an anti-aircraft missile regiment, and other battalions and companies.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 6 May 2018 15: 41
                  0
                  Why, the brigade can’t add a tank battalion, so
                  to bring her in God's form?
                  Remember the Donbass. What did the war boil down to? To the combined battalion
                  shock groups. A pair of infantry companies, a dozen tanks, a dozen Grad,
                  a dozen mortars. Here is what works efficiently. And manageable.
                  And enlargements, apart from losses from enemy artillery, carry nothing.
                  1. Cannonball
                    Cannonball 6 May 2018 18: 06
                    +3
                    Do you catch the difference between three battalions and three regiments?
                    Can you feel the difference between an artillery division and an artillery regiment?

                    Of course, if you fight in the village of Gadyukino, a pair of infantry companies, a dozen tanks with a dozen mortars can be enough.
                    However, if you fight on a wider front, say 5-7 km, then there may not be enough divisions.

                    Again, the artillery support of the division is always more powerful than that of the brigade / regiment.

                    What is the meaning of a military unit - a division? In the coordination of the actions of several battalion and regimental groups under a common, unified command. When each is not his own head, but part of a streamlined and controllable combat mechanism.

                    And then, how are you going to use the tank battalion if the parachute landing?
                    1. faterdom
                      faterdom 6 May 2018 22: 50
                      0
                      It is this trend that I welcome the transition from quantity to quality. A division is not just three or four main combat regiments, but also strong special units: communications, reconnaissance, artillery, air defense, sappers, repair and reconditioning, electronic warfare (I hope there will be), and this is not "means of the senior boss" - but these are subordinates parts of the division commander, his own! He can plan their use, he can maneuver them directly, and not through the upper headquarters! And so we have this junior general position: the general is the unifier of diverse military forces and support units for a single task. And the brigade is not a general here, unlike most other armies.
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 6 May 2018 17: 12
        0
        Let your allies not worry. There are enough guys who are ready to serve in the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps. In our gym, all young people want to serve there, not everyone else is taken ...
  9. Maximys
    Maximys 5 May 2018 18: 44
    0
    Good Saturday news. Well, for what has been said. Hooray, hooray, hooray !!!
  10. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 5 May 2018 18: 49
    +1
    Service in the guard units and formations is the memory of the rest ... Mine is the chief of the TEC 180 guards. Iap. I am proud of my service in the Stalingrad Guards Regiment.
  11. RedKors1953
    RedKors1953 5 May 2018 19: 01
    +6
    They are polite or not polite to ordinary people on the drum. They abolish it, not just like that, they brought arguments, now we are reviving, we also give arguments. It’s time to decide what we want to go what way, so that the people know whose army it is. Who does it serve? A nation or a bunch of oligarchs.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 5 May 2018 19: 24
      +4
      Quote: RedKors1953
      so that the people know whose army it is. Whom does it serve? A nation or a bunch of oligarchs.

      What does this have to do with it?
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 6 May 2018 03: 34
      +2
      . It’s time to decide what we want to go what way, so that the people know whose army it is. Who does it serve?
      You can ask a modest question, they themselves served in the army?
  12. family tree
    family tree 5 May 2018 19: 18
    +1
    Even new what The assaults, in the sense of the DS and in the USSR, had a brigade, plus separate regiments and battalions. I can understand, by my esteemed Vladimir Anatolyevich, he is a lieutenant in Shaly, and such a return. But to recruit fighters DSH to the division? They also need to be fed and trained before the army. what
    Ah, figs with nah! Colonel-General, at least from the North, Siberia, the Urals and Don SONS, will return from the emergency, but don’t understand the damn thing, in a year!
    Here, an insoluble task, the eyes are afraid, and the hands are doing what
    Damn, it's not unrealistic! DShviziya, with reservation, artillery and air support. Paragraph Washington what
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 6 May 2018 05: 51
      +7
      Quote: perepilka
      Even new what The assaults, in the sense of the DS and in the USSR, had a brigade, plus separate regiments and battalions. I can understand, by my esteemed Vladimir Anatolyevich, he is a lieutenant in Shaly, and such a return. But to recruit fighters DSH to the division? They also need to be fed and trained before the army. what
      Ah, figs with nah! Colonel-General, at least from the North, Siberia, the Urals and Don SONS, will return from the emergency, but don’t understand the damn thing, in a year!
      Here, an insoluble task, the eyes are afraid, and the hands are doing what
      Damn, it's not unrealistic! DShviziya, with reservation, artillery and air support. Paragraph Washington what

      The salt of the "assaults", as you put it, was in their brigade. The salt of the Airborne Forces is in mobility. The next round of genius "above" - ​​DSD. In fact, this is the beginning of the end of the Airborne Forces, since the inefficiency of the Airborne Forces is recognized.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 May 2018 10: 13
        +2
        Airborne brigades turn into elite infantry divisions.
        Landing is not expected, but good infantry with tank support -
        come in handy.
  13. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 5 May 2018 19: 20
    +3
    To be honest, reformatting the brigade into a division makes me very happy. Dear paratroopers, you are the most respected guys, God bless you. May there never be a new stool on your way. Happy Victory Day!
  14. Cannonball
    Cannonball 5 May 2018 20: 46
    +6
    345th Guards CPAP. Bagram. We know, remember. Neighbors and brothers in arms.
  15. Hiller
    Hiller 5 May 2018 21: 08
    +1
    here's the question ... why did they destroy it ??? "the whole world .. we will destroy .. to the ground, and then ..." we walk in a circle. Although a return to the OShS combat units of the regiment division is good.
    1. Cannonball
      Cannonball 5 May 2018 22: 13
      +2
      Our illustrious part was also liquidated,. Maybe she will be restored someday?
    2. Schima68
      Schima68 6 May 2018 10: 23
      0
      "And then, we are OUR, we will build a new World" here the main word is OUR, whose is this? ......
      1. Cannonball
        Cannonball 6 May 2018 13: 34
        +1
        The main thing is OUR to be directly related. laughing
  16. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 5 May 2018 21: 09
    0
    In principle, everything is done in the army to meet emerging needs and situations. After all, the division was previously reduced to a brigade, but now we need stronger special forces and especially the airborne
  17. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 5 May 2018 21: 53
    0
    The good news ... the airborne troops are really valiant troops and have great speed and fighting spirit they do not occupy ...

    Russia needs vital large formations of airborne forces primarily for defense, and not to throw them behind enemy lines (as many people think) ... If motorized riflemen have to keep the front along the perimeter of the country along with artillerymen, tankers and everyone else, then the airborne must at any moment reinforce any section of the front on the territory of Russia and in a matter of hours it will move to where it is necessary with weapons and equipment !!! No other kind of troops will do this as quickly as the airborne forces (railway transportation is still operational), in addition, the delivery of troops by rail can be blocked by a simple blasting of the canvas ...
  18. d1975
    d1975 5 May 2018 22: 35
    +1
    Quote: demo
    In response to the reconstruction of the US 2nd Fleet, we responded by re-creating the 104th Air Assault Division.
    I have the opinion that this is not an answer, in general, to attacks and threats of the West.
    The Russian leadership in the person of Putin is looking for the most reliable "points of support" in society. And these cornerstones can only be the heroic past of our people.
    And this is the right decision.
    And if it were possible to recreate all previously known and thundering throughout the Union military units, then ............ then this is not worth dreaming about.
    Another time, other challenges.

    I agree with you, without a past there is no future. But it was already simple and ordinary people got the power, on May 1 I was at a rally against signature, the last time I got a lyuley was a pioneer in 1987. It is time to look at the people already. We put up with it, but the patient can go too far. I must say right away that I am not a liberal, I hate them. Well, it’s time to already outline what modern Russia is - a social state or a passage yard for all evil spirits! Au power ?????????????
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 6 May 2018 07: 42
      0
      Quote: d1975
      But it was already simple and ordinary people got the power, on May 1 I was at a rally against signature, the last time I got a lyuley was a pioneer in 1987. It is time to look at the people already. We endure

      But in the private sector and May 1 was a working day, at least all the traders worked. Transport workers, too. And they also endure power. Byad .....
  19. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 6 May 2018 01: 24
    +3
    In Chinese, this is called "ping-pong" ..... first, the airborne divisions "reorganize" into brigades (even many suggested "liquidating" ..... belay ) ... then, the brigades are in the division .... This time, the solution is useful for Russia ... but is there a guarantee that after some time the “next” and “ping-pong” will not “come” will not continue?
  20. Corporal Pupkin
    Corporal Pupkin 6 May 2018 06: 44
    +3
    But, WHY it was necessary to switch to the brigade system of formation of the armed forces?
    (just do not need in it blame Taburetkin, he stupidly performed Kremlin pointers, for such "valuable thoughts" would never have come to his wooden Bosko what )
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 6 May 2018 09: 08
      +1
      I heard about one corporal, Shiklgruber is his last name, but have you heard anything about General Makarov, the chief of the general staff in those days, the ideologist of this disgrace?
    2. Schima68
      Schima68 6 May 2018 10: 27
      0
      I read that Serdyukov performed a special role, powdering the brains of am.
  21. Monarchist
    Monarchist 6 May 2018 07: 45
    0
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Again increase the strength of Uncle Vasya (Airborne Forces). So it is numb to "partners".

    Field Marshal Taburetkin or his Passion Vasiliev considered that the Armed Forces should be rebuilt according to the Israeli model and brigades were introduced.
  22. Monarchist
    Monarchist 6 May 2018 08: 16
    0
    Quote: Corporal Pupkin
    But, WHY it was necessary to switch to the brigade system of formation of the armed forces?
    (just do not need in it blame Taburetkin, he stupidly performed Kremlin pointers, for such "valuable thoughts" would never have come to his wooden Bosko what )

    But his passion Vasilyeva's fantasy worked: she canceled the participation of the Suvorovites in the Victory Parade. Remember how during the broadcast of the Victory Parade she was asked, why are there no Suvorov drummers? And let’s rant that the Parade negatively affects academic performance! She also suggested marking the passage of military equipment on Red Square, they say they get puzzled abroad when they see military equipment. I then experienced a feeling of bitterness: as far as I remember, the military parade was accompanied by the passage of military equipment and the announcers said that the heirs of the legendary Katyusha or formidable armored vehicles. And suddenly I will no longer see military equipment. Do you understand the passage of technology does not correspond to the peaceful aspirations of the Russian Federation.
    However, someone from the environment of the “tagged” was the first to think of such a thing, remember how the annual Victory Parade was canceled, and instead the solemn carrying of the banners of distinguished units was canceled. He then said that he prompted this "wisdom"
  23. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 6 May 2018 08: 48
    0
    Thank God! Everything is back to square one! Airborne is the pride of our army and people! I remember when I went for draftees in the 80s, a contingent of foreign workers was selected next to us, so the guys who went to serve them, with shaking hands from an overabundance of feelings, filled out questionnaires, and they answered all the scarecrows of the representative invariably, ready and agree! And this was at the time when Afghanistan was walking, and many of them had a very great chance of being there in half a year! And in general, the youth at that time was much more conscious! The looters were despised by the whole society, considered inferior! And the service was recognized as a mandatory test for a normal man!
  24. Glory1974
    Glory1974 6 May 2018 09: 20
    0
    to the 25 anniversary of the brigade in the 2023 year, we will revive now the 104 airborne assault division again,

    the terms are somehow unrealistic. 6 years to form a division? Or it will be needed in 6 years.
  25. Turgon
    Turgon 6 May 2018 09: 40
    +1
    You already got to the liver. Divisions in brigades, army in corps, corps in army, brigades in division. You don’t have to get the money, or someone from the generals desperately needs a house in the Seychelles.
  26. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 6 May 2018 09: 52
    0
    Not quite clear. If this is a combination of existing forces and means, then maybe it is both correct and real. But if this is the creation of a new (old) connection based on the existing brigade, then where do you get so many transport officers from in the BTA for its prompt transfer to the desired area? How many IL 96 do we build per year? And cars of Soviet times are not eternal. Or where does so much technology come from? As far as I remember, the supply of new BMDs is not the same. Well, the staff. Who to fill that connection with? Demography is not straightened out.
  27. Old26
    Old26 6 May 2018 11: 51
    0
    Quote: AID.S
    Did we have at least one military school without a glorious history and graduates?

    Did not have. Each was famous for its graduates and history. For example, the Stavropol Communications School of the Strategic Missile Forces was the only one in the country. All the chiefs of communications, from divisions (and possibly regiments) to the very top, were graduates of this school. But it turned out that this was not necessary. That communication specialists of the Strategic Missile Forces can be trained at any school ...

    Quote: 73bor
    Very timely

    Before that FIVE YEARS

    Quote: Doliva63
    The salt of the "assaults", as you put it, was in their brigade. The salt of the Airborne Forces is in mobility. The next round of genius "above" - ​​DSD. In fact, this is the beginning of the end of the Airborne Forces, since the inefficiency of the Airborne Forces is recognized.

    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: perepilka
    Even new what The assaults, in the sense of the DS and in the USSR, had a brigade, plus separate regiments and battalions. I can understand, by my esteemed Vladimir Anatolyevich, he is a lieutenant in Shaly, and such a return. But to recruit fighters DSH to the division? They also need to be fed and trained before the army. what
    Ah, figs with nah! Colonel-General, at least from the North, Siberia, the Urals and Don SONS, will return from the emergency, but don’t understand the damn thing, in a year!
    Here, an insoluble task, the eyes are afraid, and the hands are doing what
    Damn, it's not unrealistic! DShviziya, with reservation, artillery and air support. Paragraph Washington what

    The salt of the "assaults", as you put it, was in their brigade. The salt of the Airborne Forces is in mobility. The next round of genius "above" - ​​DSD. In fact, this is the beginning of the end of the Airborne Forces, since the inefficiency of the Airborne Forces is recognized.

    Yes, no, this is not another round of genius. In fact, the Airborne Forces, as we understand it, that is, the airborne regiments - now there is nothing left of them. Of the four airborne divisions that currently exist, two are air assault divisions. In 5 years there will be a third air assault division. In order to defend the Airborne Forces in the form in which they were created, transport aviation is needed, which is now almost nonexistent. Look at the same Southern District. The airborne division consisting of two regiments, a separate airborne battalion in the Crimea, DSBBr plus 4 separate special forces brigades and a separate special forces regiment, not counting army and corps reconnaissance battalions (they can be left out of the brackets for now). And for all this with a gulkin nose transport aircraft and helicopters. so these troops do not reach the airborne forces ...
  28. brr1
    brr1 6 May 2018 13: 06
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    still on the cube you need to deploy a division
  29. ural70
    ural70 6 May 2018 13: 27
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    My regiment, my division !!! Hooray!
  30. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 6 May 2018 13: 59
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    Glory to Shamanov !!! This is the second Dad for the Airborne. No commander has done as much as the Shamans do!
  31. groks
    groks 6 May 2018 17: 47
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    New schizophrenic initiative. Whose? Who is this woodpecker? Can still build DCA?
    1. Cannonball
      Cannonball 6 May 2018 18: 07
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      Sure! Only not DSA, but Guards. JES. tongue
  32. uporov65
    uporov65 9 May 2018 15: 47
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    Hello my 104th Guards Division. DMB 1984-1986.