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US military cargo will go by railways in Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev allowed

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Edition Kazakhstanskaya Pravda reports that the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, has signed a document defining opportunities for American transit of special cargo via Kazakhstan’s railways. We are talking about the signing of the law on ratification of the protocol on amending the Kazakh-American intergovernmental agreement.


Earlier, the United States appealed to Astana with a “request” to provide an opportunity to use the railway network of Kazakhstan to transport special-purpose cargo (including military) “in order to ensure the operation to stabilize and rebuild Afghanistan”.

This agreement was approved by both chambers of the republican parliament.

In addition, the agreement discusses the possibility for the US to use the Caspian ports of Kazakhstan.

US military cargo will go by railways in Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev allowed


From the material:
The main material supply route for the contingent in Afghanistan passes through Pakistan, however, due to military-political instability and existing differences in bilateral relations, the American side is working on an alternative route: from Azerbaijan via the Caspian Sea to Kazakhstan (Aktau and Kuryk ports) and then by rail to Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, which is a modified version of the Northern distribution network.

As follows from the statement, Kazakhstan “chose” Kazakhstan for itself because of the changed position of Pakistan.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 5 May 2018 06: 35
    +35
    Hmm ... you don’t need enemies with such “friends” ... What next?! Base construction, NATO membership and open hatred of Russia ?!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 May 2018 06: 41
      +20
      The alliance tripped over the loot ...
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Hmm ... you don’t need enemies with such “friends” ... What next?! Base construction, NATO membership and open hatred of Russia ?!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 5 May 2018 06: 46
        +26
        Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan IDA drugs from Afghanistan - a "grateful" gift from the United States!
        1. amirbek
          amirbek 5 May 2018 07: 26
          +6
          Quote: Tatiana
          Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan IDA drugs from Afghanistan - a "grateful" gift from the United States!

          wants to climb the silk road without an invitation
          1. hrych
            hrych 5 May 2018 13: 11
            +4
            Quote: Amirbek
            wants to climb the silk road without an invitation

            The Silk Road passed by. Moreover, he goes on a hike and past China. There will be a Trans-Korean railway in the BAM and the Trans-Siberian Railway, to Europe itself. The Chinese can be understood, their population is concentrated on the coast and in the interfluve, and industry with infrastructure tied to ports is also concentrated there. Also, raw materials and food go to ports, China is not a self-sufficient state for products, although there was a peasant country, and even purchases rice. This is a logistics problem, China is a large state and there is no sense in transferring the main cargo turnover to the North. The Republic of Korea was generally an island cut off by the sea and the DPRK. Also, the entire infrastructure was marine. However, unlike the PRC, the territory is small to build roads, including iron and pipes - it is absolutely not a problem. It will also receive raw materials and energy, in reverse its remarkable industrial products. Here Elbasy was sad, China does not itch, and the new path, of course, does not provide for entry into another country. The Vostochny Cosmodrome was also very upset because dependence on Baikonur is waning. There are still questions about the supply of raw materials. All this resulted in the Latin alphabet, abstinence at the UN and this demarche. But which is practically nothing. But now the reason for the color revolution has appeared.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 13: 18
              +1
              In your case, there is a fine example of a misunderstanding of the facts and, accordingly, incorrect conclusions from them.
              1. hrych
                hrych 5 May 2018 13: 30
                +6
                I know one thing, random states will soon cease to exist as a result of a new world redistribution. I even guess who in the first place.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 13: 42
                  +1
                  Are you not talking about Russia for an hour? Our demographic situation is very disposed to this.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 5 May 2018 14: 09
                    +14
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Our demographic situation is very disposed to this.

                    No, it doesn’t, the Russians are the fourth largest ethnic group on the planet, inferior to the Han, Hindu and Bengal. And then, it is necessary to deal with the Han people, they have sub-ethnic groups with different languages, etc. That is. the difference is greater than that of the Great Russians with Belarusians and Little Russians. In addition to 111 million, a couple of million Crimeans were added to the Russian Federation, and 4 million new Russians are coming. Those. up to 120 million Russians accumulate in Russia. Three and a half more are in the country under discussion. There is a multi-million dollar reserve in Ukraine, which will undoubtedly be eliminated as a country. In the Russian Federation, food safety, a powerful industry with one of the strongest military-industrial complex, and strategic nuclear forces and nuclear weapons make Russians and Russians, the most powerful people on earth. The prospect is good. The people are peppy, hardworking and extremely warlike. A cry of Yaroslavna is useful for removing salts from the body. laughing
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 16: 33
                      +5
                      A vigorous people has a very large territory with great natural resources, a very large social stratification and poor birth rate, and it is also very bad with the public consciousness that got stuck in the 19th century. Nuclear weapons save from enemies from the outside, while they save. Will it save you from a social explosion from the inside which still latently ripens? Although of course the turbopatriots do not give a damn about such trifles.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 16: 55
                        +6
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        turbopatriots don't care about such trifles

                        Turbopatriots were originally called defendants preaching revolutions (and social explosions), crying about "social stratification" and generally believing that the "glass" in the Russian Federation was not only half empty, but almost empty.
                        By this definition, you belong to them.
                        Tell me, are you criticizing yourself, or is it someone else?
                      2. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 18: 23
                        +1
                        There is another category. Which violently against all revolutions, point blank not seeing any social stratification and generally believing that everything is fine with us, the glass is almost full. You can think anything. I cannot forbid you to think all sorts of silly thoughts. laughing
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 5 May 2018 20: 44
                        +3
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        large social stratification and poor birth rates

                        The birth rate is normal, in particular it surpasses the West, of course it is inferior to the southern peoples, but such a huge ethnic group will die out for another 500 years at such a pace. Your red flag, surrenders to me, is hiding the Ukrainian yellow-beak sign laughing Therefore, you are not ready to relate adequately to Russians, but the truth is that nuclear weapons save not so far, but forever. Not only that, we surpass even the United States in strategic nuclear forces and we even have a new class of carriers that the enemy does not have. According to TNW, it’s simply a fantastic superiority over all taken together. Even without nuclear weapons, our people were able to defeat a united Europe. Therefore, even without nuclear weapons, the Russian soldier is the most skilled and formidable, and even his advantage over his kindred neighbors is undeniable in moral and combat qualities. Enough to propagate the troubles here already, it has not succeeded and will not succeed. We are immune from the Maidan, we have well mastered the vaccine from the times of EBN. Also, the Russian people are restrained and patient in mentality, which allows them to withstand long sieges with blockades and not give up. Therefore, do not hope to survive this country, and this people, many have tried, at least for the last thousand years, but no one has succeeded.
              2. asiat_61
                asiat_61 5 May 2018 14: 49
                +2
                In my opinion, the whole thing is $ 23 billion that they blocked in the United States.
            2. Kent0001
              Kent0001 5 May 2018 16: 28
              0
              So it is necessary to influence him (Elbasy) quietly, and because of them (raw sugar processed from them and sugar imported from us), our own sugar market collapsed, our farmers were in terrible losses.
              1. hrych
                hrych 5 May 2018 20: 56
                +2
                There are enough mechanisms of influence. So far, this transit is a declaration of intent. This transit can be strangled quite simply. Also Elbasy was no less upset by Mr. Xi, and the Chinese are less lenient and the same Pakistan is pulled by the Chinese from pro-American politics and of course the Chinese cannot like this.
        2. Humpty
          Humpty 5 May 2018 07: 30
          +6
          Quote: Tatiana
          Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan IDA drugs from Afghanistan - a "grateful" gift from the United States!

          KZ in this regard and without the USA is quite a present for yourself. But the United States will have a brand new "diamond path" bypassing Iran.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 5 May 2018 07: 54
            +5
            Quote: Humpty
            But the United States will have a brand new "diamond path" bypassing Iran.

            What do you mean?

            I meant that the "Maidan fighters" received not only money from abroad, but also drugs, which were also freely and cheaply sold on the "Euromaidan".
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 5 May 2018 08: 33
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              “Maidan fighters” received not only money from abroad, but also drugs, which were also freely and cheaply sold on “Euromaidan”.

              as well as drugs were added to tea, which Maidan and watered
              1. Dimka75
                Dimka75 5 May 2018 08: 58
                -1
                as?? you forgot about chopped oranges
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 5 May 2018 09: 03
                +7
                LSA57 (Sergei)
                as well as drugs were added to tea, which Maidan and watered

                Captagon combat drug has become a driving force not only in the Arab spring, but also in the "Maidan" coup and ATO in Ukraine.

                The "Maidan fighters" received from abroad not only money, but also drugs, which were also freely and cheaply sold on the "Euromaidan". In April 2014 of the year of acting mayor of Kiev V. Bondarenko admitted that in the seized city hall during the euromadan there was a drug manufacturing workshop. Then the drugs were distributed in large numbers to the murderers in Odessa on 2 in May.

                In industrial quantities, the chemistry for the production of captagon was delivered to Ukraine, in particular, on 11 in May - when a board arrived at the Kiev airport in strict secrecy, from which containers with chemistry and packaging with finished amphetamine tablets were unloaded. The cargo was escorted by CIA officer Richard Michael and 70 mercenaries from the Polish PMC. At the direction of the Kiev Security Service, the fighters, cargo and containers with chemicals were not inspected and left the airport building in tinted cars.
                (See - https://dfedbees.livejournal.com/451004.html)

                It is unlikely that this "bowl" will now pass Nazarbayev Kazakhstan!
            2. Humpty
              Humpty 5 May 2018 12: 26
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              I meant that the "Maidan fighters" received not only money from abroad, but also drugs, which were also freely and cheaply sold on the "Euromaidan".

              Selling!? Here are the greedy people, and in our “appearances” we just gave a booze of drugs on the square. “Diamond Roads” is a broader concept than drug addict veins.
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 5 May 2018 12: 42
                +3
                Quote: Humpty
                “Diamond Roads” is a broader concept than drug addict veins.

                That's right. yes
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 5 May 2018 17: 02
            0
            Quote: Humpty
            But the United States will have a brand new "diamond path" bypassing Iran.

            Is this a workaround? Through Armenia? belay
        3. Observer2014
          Observer2014 5 May 2018 08: 01
          +10
          Tatyana hi
          Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan IDA drugs from Afghanistan - a "grateful" gift from the United States!
          That's it! Namely Tatyana. Now a legitimate question arises. Why do not we strengthen our border with Kazakhstan? If this old man with a stroke of the pen turned to dust all the attempts of the Russian leadership to close the border on distant approaches. Bullshit is all now. And the excuse to humiliate our citizens in the form of special labor competition in connection with the delivery of crowds of Central Asians to us turned out to be nonsense. Consider Nazarbayev to blow under the breath. Our rulers. He took and betrayed. And how are the projects with China now? Also, we will build through the Kazakhs? For our money. Or it’s not until very late that we transfer the road projects directly between us. Without the participation of third parties?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 5 May 2018 08: 34
            +2
            Quote: Observer2014
            .Took and betrayed

            he is not the first and he is not the last
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 5 May 2018 08: 55
              +8
              LSA57 Sergei hi
              he is not the first and he is not the last
              Therefore, their citizens need to improve their lives. And not anyone can be supported afloat at the expense of our citizens. Labor migration should be banned at the legislative level. They want to be friends with Russia. Look for other forms of cooperation. And do not provide employment to neighbors. Which friends are for the time and time .All of these tales about the fraternal friendship of bullshit and eggs are not worth it. But at the expense of ordinary Russians, they want to fill their belly with dirt.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 5 May 2018 10: 05
                +5
                Quote: Observer2014
                Therefore, their citizens need to improve their lives ... Labor migration should be banned at the legislative level .... Look for other forms of cooperation. And do not provide employment to neighbors. Which friends are for the time being ....

                This problem was actively discussed in Russia in the 2012-2015 year from different angles. In particular, with t.z. financial risks of the national security of the Russian Federation from foreign labor migration under the prevailing market ideology in the Russian Federation and the world with its monetarism. Namely.

                In matters of foreign “labor” migration, the features of the ideological concept of the so-called "Free market" of capital, goods and labor of M. Friedman with his monetarism.

                First, in practice, when implementing the concept of M. Friedman in Russia (and in other countries, too) it turns out that foreign. labor migrants, although they receive a salary in Russian rubles, in the end, they still work for the American currency, and, in essence, they pay "taxes" from work in the territory of the Russian Federation to the US Federal Reserve bankers (with her permanent mission in England) in the form of a dollar banking “usurious%” —and taking up jobs on the Russian labor market for the local Russian population, tearing it away from its own means of production as a means of subsistence. In other words, it turns out that in fact in the end result, the manager of the Russian means of production and the employer for foreign labor migrants on Russian soil is not Russia, but the bankers of the US Federal Reserve! (It is “their” people who advocate unlimited foreign labor migration to the Russian Federation.)

                In this case, the US Federal Reserve Bankers as a result of using foreign. work. Migration in Russia is enriched by the sale of its currency twice. The first time the Central Bank of the Russian Federation issues rubles for purchased US dollars in order to print rubles in general and launch the financial system of the Russian Federation as a whole, and in particular to pay for labor on its Russian labor market, including to foreign labor migrants. And the second time that they themselves are foreign. work. When migrants take them out of the Russian Federation, migrants exchange their earned money in rubles for American dollars, i.e. when they buy again the same amount of dollars that Russia once bought for them to pay for their labor - and again “with usurious%”! As a result, the US Federal Reserve bankers from the use of foreign. work. migrants in the Russian Federation (and in similar dollarized countries) get really double financial benefits from the "easy money" from the sale of American currency when performing foreign. labor. migrants of the same one-time job. And the more foreign labor migrants in Russia, the more profitable it is for the US Federal Reserve bankers.

                But this does not happen with the indigenous Russian population in principle, since the Russians as a whole family live in their homeland. At the same time, the US Federal Reserve bankers withdraw their “usurious%” from the local population for the sale of American dollars only once, namely when the Central Bank of the Russian Federation makes the purchase of dollars to issue ruble stock in Russia. But even in this case, the mechanism of the secondary purchase of American currency by the Russians can, in principle, also be launched by creating panic in the financial market due to the explosive demand and buying up of US dollars in the Russian Federation at any time - again the same foreign countries. “Labor” migrants - with the subsequent appreciation of the dollar against the ruble. For example, in the same December of each year, either from the imposition of economic sanctions against Russia, or before the outbreak of war.

                As a result, it is precisely in this way that the world’s dollar financial pyramid “EASY DOLLARS” is artificially built by the world private-owned bankers of the US Federal Reserve (with a permanent representative office in England), in which the main beneficiaries are those who are at its very top. And at the very top are private-owned bankers-loan sharks of the US Federal Reserve, which, as a result of this, can afford to buy whatever they want in the world - for “EASY MONEY”.

                See in detail "Financial Risks of the National Security of the Russian Federation from Foreign Labor Migration" - https://topwar.ru/71406-finansovye-riski-nacional
                noy-bezopasnosti-rf-ot-inostrannoy-trudovoy-migra
                cii.html
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 5 May 2018 12: 14
                  +3
                  Tatyana I’ll add your truth in simple words. In all countries around Russia, the dollar is a bit more expensive. Who doesn’t believe take interest in exchange rates. Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Armenia, etc. .. Therefore, it is beneficial for all migrant workers to export dollars. With all the ensuing consequences for the Russian economy. What exactly are Gaster and they do. For whom is the Russian government working? And those who squeal that the Russians are working poorly and it’s profitable to take anyone but the Russians. These are enemies. Yes enemies. Even not crooks.
                  1. Merold
                    Merold 5 May 2018 12: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    Tatyana I’ll add your truth in simple words. In all countries around Russia, the dollar is a little more expensive. Who doesn’t believe take interest in exchange rates. Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Armenia, etc.

                    Do not show the example of Ukraine and 1000 dollars.
                    1. Observer2014
                      Observer2014 5 May 2018 14: 44
                      +2
                      Merold (Andrei)
                      Do not show the example of Ukraine and 1000 dollars.
                      Like two fingers on the asphalt.
                      Today's rate is Average 26.121 dollars to hryvnia. In Ukraine
                      Ruble 0.402 to the hryvnia.
                      Divide 26.121 by 0.402, we get 64.97777 almost 65. the ruble to the dollar in Ukraine
                      Now we look at the ruble against the dollar in Russia 62.53 laughing Not much as I said. But enough to carry dollars was more profitable.
                      1. Merold
                        Merold 5 May 2018 15: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: Observer2014
                        Merold (Andrei)
                        Do not show the example of Ukraine and 1000 dollars.
                        Like two fingers on the asphalt.
                        Today's rate is Average 26.121 dollars to hryvnia. In Ukraine
                        Ruble 0.402 to the hryvnia.
                        Divide 26.121 by 0.402, we get 64.97777 almost 65. the ruble to the dollar in Ukraine
                        Now we look at the ruble against the dollar in Russia 62.53 laughing Not much as I said. But enough to carry dollars was more profitable.

                        And there is. Thank.
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 6 May 2018 22: 33
                    0
                    the number of migrants entering has fallen by more than 3 times over the past 2 years ...
                    just because of the difference in courses, it became meaningless for them to work here ..
            2. syndicalist
              syndicalist 6 May 2018 07: 47
              0
              Only a friend can betray. Who is Russia left among friends?
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 6 May 2018 07: 57
                +1
                Quote: syndicalist
                Who is Russia left among friends?

                Army and Navy. Do not betray. All the rest are "friends," by the forest.
          2. Kasym
            Kasym 5 May 2018 12: 15
            +2
            Sergey (Observer 2014), your ideas about KZ do not correspond to reality. What is betrayal? Your president claims that if not the Americans, then we have to get into Afghanistan! You can even find the video. And everyone is well aware of the airfield in Ulyanovsk.
            For what kind of money have your Russians built in KZ recently? belay You don’t need to write the facts for the time of the Union and the Republic of Ingushetia ... We have already built the silos, we will finish the highway (Z. China - Z. Europe) in a year or two. And here is the GDP in Feder. a message when I presented new types of weapons, I spoke for your backlog on these projects. The PRC-KZ projects are also in order. There are 60 of them now - what interests you ?! We can supply gas to the PRC right now - at the end of the 17th year we completed the branch from our border with you to our three gas pipelines in the PRC. Your Rosneft is pumping 10 million. tons of oil in China. Do you know anything for this? One thing I can say - your capital investments in these pipelines were not in China. As there were none in 2,7 thousand km of new railways. dear. So "fingers do not need a fan ...". By the way, the National Academy of Sciences contributed to the establishment of relations between you and the PRC, Turkey and Iran. Is that how he "beats you under the breath"? laughing
            Our gold reserves of course sank, but make up over 80 billion. - A couple of years, judging by the country's budget, we can’t give a damn about the ceiling.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 5 May 2018 12: 41
              +2
              Kasym (Dauren) hi Kazakhstan in general, my comment has little to do. Let's look at the map

              All roads from Russia and to Russia from the republics of Central Asia go through Kazakhstan. Yes, God bless Kazakhstan and your leader for many more years. We are talking about something else now. We have a lot of people here and often fill in the prevalence of migrant workers for the benefit of ordinary Russians. So we argue in the color of recent events whether it is so or not.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 5 May 2018 14: 14
                +3
                Sergey, your comment from 08:01 - my answer was to him.
                For us, migrant workers are also a problem. But if we close the region, I’m afraid the KZ will not seem a little. Maybe the new president of Uzbekistan will be able to raise the republic, let's see. This will greatly reduce the problem. A lot depends on her. The most densely populated, has a border with all Central Asian countries (respectively, transport infrastructure). Almost the whole of Central Asia depends on the well-being of Uzbekistan. hi
                We have quotas for migrant workers. District police officers even check who makes repairs in the apartments.
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 6 May 2018 08: 00
                0
                Quote: Observer2014
                We are here a lot more hefty and often flood that the dominance from there by migrant workers for the benefit of ordinary Russians

                and hto flooded it for you? are not "experts" from the censor by chance?
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 13: 10
              +1
              Everything, as always, rests on economic interests. And in this case, the interests of the bourgeoisie. USA Nazarbaev coolly pressed, remember the frozen National Fund. So this offer cannot be refused. And they will continue to push. You will not envy him at all now. On the one hand, the Scylla of the Kazakh bourgeoisie under the guise of nationalism, on the other, the Charybdis of foreign mainly collective Western capital. And all this against the backdrop of the economic crisis, the size of Kazakhstan with scarce human resources and proximity to the main geopolitical enemies of the EU and the USA, Russia and China, plus large natural resources.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 6 May 2018 08: 07
                0
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                And in this case, the interests of the bourgeoisie.

                here is not bothered to meditate this word? chew him the second century. a person has opened his own business, does not ask the state for anything, feeds his family, gives work to others. that’s why he "bourgeois" and an enemy of the commies? does not share with you ??? look at the zyuganovsky osbnyak. or a candidate from the Communist Party in the election.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 6 May 2018 12: 49
                  0
                  Not tired of doing demagogy?
            3. Kudrevkn
              Kudrevkn 5 May 2018 18: 46
              +1
              Urya Kazakh is a patriot! Beautifully stated, only any medal always has two sides? Your Americans (Nazar - Baja) ASSETS in the USA were arrested, Nurik and gotten sick !!! In your (his) case, did the Judah medal even have THREE sides? However, before whom am I beads ...?
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 6 May 2018 13: 23
                +2
                In the winter, everyone thawed. hi
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 6 May 2018 13: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Kasym
                  In the winter, everyone thawed. hi

                  Kasym, that’s how it is, but Nazarbayev was forced to spend decently on purchases in the United States. In general, we slowly continue to slide towards World War III.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 6 May 2018 14: 45
                    +1
                    Not forced, but in the case. It lies in the fact that there is an American company locomotive assembly plant in the Evolution series. Already released for a couple of hundred for the needs of the country (9th place in size), localization has approached 50%. So they signed a new three hundred, because the neighbors are interested. These locomotives with hybrid power. installation, so fuel savings of up to 15%. Well, they signed civilian Boeing planes. Without them, where — give the Russian alternative and all of us will be happy. You yourself buy them. But here is the interesting thing. The main event of this trip of the National Academy of Sciences was a speech at the UN Security Council - in January we became the chairman of it and this is such a "procedure". But in the Russian media everything is presented as if he went to bow to Trump. hi
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 6 May 2018 20: 41
                      0
                      To do this, it was necessary to freeze the National Fund of Kazakhstan? And the post of chairman is yes, it is power. Do you want me to appoint you also the chairman of the commission of the struggle for all good versus all bad? Kasim, no offense, this was an offer that you can’t refuse, but the fact that he was dressed in a noble form, well, we live in civilized times. It used to be possible to immediately burn the village of the natives to force them to exchange gold for beads. Now they usually warn at first. I absolutely do not like what is happening. All this resembles to the horror the beginning of the last century, and since the conditions are the same and the system is the same, the result will be the same, but I still hope that nuclear weapons will not allow trade wars to develop into a new world war. I really hope so.
        4. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 5 May 2018 08: 52
          0
          You won’t believe it, but the drugs go there without cars
      2. ochakow703
        ochakow703 5 May 2018 07: 31
        +10
        Rather - sold friendship! Although, Kazakhs since the time of "gaining independence" have never shown special respect and friendship for Russia. Probably also an ancient state, and they dug the Caspian. It remains only to put the cauldrons on their heads and dance!
        1. mvg
          mvg 5 May 2018 08: 24
          +9
          I have a neighbor in the country - a Kazakh woman, she normally told me how the Russians, leaving everything in 90 years, left Kazakhstan. Selling apartments on the cheap, losing their jobs and relatives.
          Brother in Astana, grit nothing good. And we give them both air defense and airplanes, and this is not exported, but the most, that is, military and cheap. We protect from the annexation of China.
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 5 May 2018 12: 22
          +2
          Ochakov703 (Sergey), where did you see this disrespect and bad attitude to the Russian Federation on the part of the KZ, especially the National Academy of Sciences? Facts please, but they say the opposite. hi
          As an example, one of these facts. On our new pipelines in China (there are 4 of them at the moment) NO DROPS OF OUR ENERGY RESOURCES ARE NOT !!! belay
          1. ochakow703
            ochakow703 6 May 2018 05: 04
            +1
            I have something to compare, and this is definitely not gas pipelines! I don’t give a damn about them; I am worried about relationships between people. My grandmother lived in Alma-Ata, and I often (every summer of my childhood) visited there, and did not care at all that I was from Siberia, was worn with my Almaty friends in the city, and climbed gardens with them. Everything was just wonderful. But having arrived in Alma-Ata in 2007, immediately from the border crossing I realized that everything was wrong. The country has become different, and people (fortunately not all!), Too. Arrogance and pride and rushing out. Yes, and thoughts verbally reinforce the grafted lie, saying that all "Russians, stop robbing and raping our Great Country, we stay, and bring it to your home." Who robbed whom, where should we bring down from the land where our fathers and grandfathers lived? Which, sparing their belly, built cities and factories, roads and schools. And this despite the fact that at the beginning of the 20th century the country was a feudal nomadic state. And now ... sad. Of course, under the Americans it will be more democratic.
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    3. dSK
      dSK 5 May 2018 06: 47
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      What's next?

      Kazakhstan USA "chose" for itself due to the changing position of Pakistan.
      I hope that the position of Kazakhstan can also “change”. When Rogozin was the "special representative" of Russia to NATO, cargo transit to Afghanistan went through Ulyanovsk. But as our president Vladimir Vladimirovich recently said - "everything flows, everything changes".
    4. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 5 May 2018 07: 23
      +2
      Damn took off his tongue. I also wanted to add about the transition to the Latin alphabet ....
    5. Svarog
      Svarog 5 May 2018 08: 18
      +7
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Hmm ... you don’t need enemies with such “friends” ... What next?! Base construction, NATO membership and open hatred of Russia ?!

      Yes, we don’t have allies, we have companions, so far they are profitable, that’s why I have a question why we forgive loans, they wrote off so much dough, the amount is equal to all the loans of our citizens in banks.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 5 May 2018 08: 40
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        why do we forgive loans

        forgiven those whom it is impossible to take. for example a cube. how do you take them? Vietnam. in Africa forgiven. there are no levers of pressure on them. therefore, we forgive.
        striped almost all over the world should. Have you heard that at least someone asked them? useless...
        1. onix757
          onix757 5 May 2018 10: 14
          +1
          for example a cube. how do you take them? Vietnam. in Africa forgiven.

          Safely closed in the 2000s base and a guaranteed sales market. In my opinion enough.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 10: 24
            +2
            Quote: onix757
            bases

            What else, to the raven, are the "bases"?
            Lourdes is an intelligence center, not a base. Smoke the difference.
            And everything is already stolen there - don’t go to a fortuneteller ...
            Quote: onix757
            guaranteed sales market

            The poor country. What is the sales? Again, write off loans?
            1. onix757
              onix757 5 May 2018 10: 36
              0
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Lourdes is an intelligence center, not a base. Smoke the difference.

              does it change anything?
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              The poor country. What is the sales? Again, write off loans?

              “Beggar” countries do not need anything? And about the fact that they can’t sell anything the myth of the liberals because of which cane sugar has become quite an expensive pleasure.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 10: 41
                +1
                Quote: onix757
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Lourdes is an intelligence center, not a base. Smoke the difference.

                does it change anything?

                It changes everything. I say well - smoke the difference. Between the military base and the RER center.
                Quote: onix757
                “Beggar” countries do not need anything?

                You started about Cuba as a "market", and moved to "need."
                Are you sure everything is in order with the thinking apparatus?
                And what Cuba "needs" there is the problem of Cuba, and not of the Russian Federation at all.
                Quote: onix757
                cane sugar has become quite an expensive treat.

                I do not use silage. And I do not recommend you.
                But seriously - what do you think, where did the $ 32 billion debt that the Russian Federation wrote off to Cuba come from? From an excess of cane sugar, no? wink
                1. onix757
                  onix757 5 May 2018 10: 56
                  0
                  It changes everything. I say well - smoke the difference

                  the absence of a motorized rifle division in the intelligence center does not mean the absence of a military unit number. Is that clearer?
                  You started about Cuba as a "market", and moved to "need."

                  That's right, because they could have made settlements in rubles. And yes, by the end of the 80s, trade between countries amounted to billions of forever green.
                  I do not use silage. And I do not recommend you

                  Your culinary preferences are your problems, however cane sugar is healthier)
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 11: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: onix757
                    So clearer?

                    Yes, it’s much clearer ... Why did you need the military unit number there, please explain ... I’m lost in conjecture.
                    Quote: onix757
                    could make settlements in rubles

                    How is it during the USSR? We, like, give a loan in rubles, but does Cuba, like, pay us with these rubles for something there?
                    It was already. We drove through.
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 5 May 2018 11: 17
                      0
                      Why do you need the military unit number there, it’s needed, explain ... I’m lost in conjecture

                      Do not get lost, but just look for the difference between the presence of the military contingent in the cube and the name of the intelligence center)
                      How is it during the USSR? We, like, give a loan in rubles, but does Cuba, like, pay us with these rubles for something there?

                      As with "America is the only superpower." They give dollars, and the Russian Federation pays them
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 11: 33
                        +2
                        1. Why did you need a “military contingent” in Cuba? For show-offs, or what?
                        2. How much will it cost, you even ask a senseless thing, a campaign.
                        3. "They" do not "give dollars." Strange as it may seem, the Russian Federation earns these dollars.
                        Show me what Cuba is ready for (in commodity quantities) earn rubles?
                        PS: girls with Varadero - not to offer.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 5 May 2018 11: 48
            0
            Quote: onix757
            Safely Closed in the 2000s Base

            did not try to calculate how much it cost? and then the country was poor. not from a good life shut
            1. onix757
              onix757 5 May 2018 11: 53
              0
              did not try to calculate how much it cost? and then the country was poor. not from a good life shut

              cheaper by orders of magnitude compared to how much money has been stolen from the country since the early 2000s
        2. Bully
          Bully 5 May 2018 11: 48
          +1
          Quote: LSA57
          for example a cube. how do you take them? ..

          For those who are not in the know. Currently, the Russian Federation is building three 200 MW power units at TPP East Havana. This is just what I know personally, since I work in the energy sector
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 6 May 2018 08: 12
            0
            Quote: Bully
            Currently, the Russian Federation is building three 200 MW power units at TPP East Havana.

            that's it, PRESENT. the base was closed when this "real" was not close. Do not compare Russia 90s and today's.
    6. LSA57
      LSA57 5 May 2018 08: 31
      +4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      and open hatred of Russia ?!

      and to the Russians. at the household level, this has long been happening.
      since at least 2000s mass extrusion of Russians
    7. PalBor
      PalBor 5 May 2018 08: 50
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Hmm ... you don’t need enemies with such “friends” ... What next?! Base construction, NATO membership and open hatred of Russia ?!

      Oralmans' open hatred of Russians with tacit connivance and even incitement of the authorities is already observed. Considering the Islamic radicalism of many "returnees", Babai will play out.
    8. Maz
      Maz 5 May 2018 10: 59
      +1
      Once again, we fight about a rake - why the hell did we ruin the USSR practically ourselves, with our indifference. “The Russian people will kneel down in front of the lordly porch and rebel! And you know, the vile sho rebels and still stand!” - Saltykov-Shchedrin however.
    9. Borders
      Borders 5 May 2018 11: 46
      0
      and it was not necessary to initially make friends with the Turks (I'm talking about Kazakhs)
    10. Ilya Mikhalych
      Ilya Mikhalych 5 May 2018 12: 43
      0
      Capital has friendship where the gain is nothing new or surprising.
    11. krops777
      krops777 5 May 2018 16: 14
      0
      President of the Republic of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev signed a document defining the possibilities for American transit of special cargo via Kazakhstan railways


      Nazarbayev started a dangerous game, for the promised money, the United States throws a noose, then try to give the back one, they can hang like Saddam.
    12. 73bor
      73bor 6 May 2018 00: 52
      0
      You just need to calm down, look at the map and ask yourself, where will these goods from Kazakhstan go? In my comment, superfluous! lol
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 May 2018 06: 40
    +14
    Well, the Americans pressed the "guru" of Kazakh politics with a monetary issue. It was not worth the old man to keep money both his own and state ones in American banks. Now, on a good hook, and most likely relations with Russia will begin to deteriorate, moreover, on a far-fetched pretext.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 5 May 2018 06: 44
      +9
      but there’s nothing "honestly acquired" to keep the hell knows where ...
      by the way, and it concerns our ...
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 5 May 2018 07: 15
        +1
        Quote: kepmor
        but there’s nothing "honestly acquired" to keep the hell knows where ...
        by the way, and it concerns our ...

        Yeah ... It's not enough to steal, you still have to save the stolen and have time to use it.
    2. prapor55
      prapor55 5 May 2018 07: 18
      +2
      I agree, and perhaps some kind of Maidan of type 86 will be muddied.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 5 May 2018 09: 10
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Now, on a good hook, and most likely relations with Russia will begin to deteriorate, moreover, on a far-fetched pretext.

      and it looks like Baikonur will have to say goodbye
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 5 May 2018 09: 53
        +2
        So graters go for a long time. By the way - IN December 2017
        Talgat Musabaev, the head of the Kazakh space agency, spoke about the ongoing negotiations on a gradual withdrawal from the agreement concluded almost twenty years ago. This agreement should be replaced by a new one, taking into account the current situation and the wishes of the parties
        Those. in the best case, the cost of rent will increase many times, and in the worst - "suitcase, train station, Russia". And this is from a country on which Russia had high hopes as a partner (without quotes).
        1. Merold
          Merold 5 May 2018 10: 02
          +1
          Quote: rotmistr60
          So graters go for a long time. By the way - IN December 2017
          Talgat Musabaev, the head of the Kazakh space agency, spoke about the ongoing negotiations on a gradual withdrawal from the agreement concluded almost twenty years ago. This agreement should be replaced by a new one, taking into account the current situation and the wishes of the parties
          Those. in the best case, the cost of rent will increase many times, and in the worst - "suitcase, train station, Russia". And this is from a country on which Russia had high hopes as a partner (without quotes).

          Well, Vietnam and Cuba also had high hopes for Russia. And despite the tearful requests of her partners, she took down her bases and “suitcase, train station, Russia”, leaving them alone with “world imperialism”.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 5 May 2018 10: 13
            +1
            Well Vietnam with Cuba
            At the time, the USSR and Vietnam provided invaluable services to both Vietnam and Cuba - the sovereignty of these countries. And you, judging by your comments, focus only on the 90s when you probably were born. Maybe tell us what negotiations and what are being held with these countries today?
            1. Merold
              Merold 5 May 2018 10: 31
              0
              Quote: rotmistr60
              Well Vietnam with Cuba
              At the time, the USSR and Vietnam provided invaluable services to both Vietnam and Cuba - the sovereignty of these countries.

              That in "the time" no one did and does not argue, on the contrary. Threw why? After all, he was asked not to leave for fear that the “pin.dos” would attack them right there. And what is most interesting - they did not attack, although they did not have any nuclear weapons. And now in the same Vietnam (“at the invitation of the legitimate government”) US warships come in and the Vietnamese buy American weapons.
              Maybe you need to look more closely at yourself, and not to blame everyone around?
              Maybe tell us what negotiations and what are being held with these countries today?

              You better tell me. For example, I know that when Russia announced that "we say that we can deploy our military base in Vietnam at any time" - Vietnam said no.
              1. rotmistr60
                rotmistr60 5 May 2018 10: 34
                +1
                when Russia stated that "we say that we can deploy our military base in Vietnam at any time," Vietnam said no.
                And when, after the 90th, did Russia say this?
                1. Merold
                  Merold 5 May 2018 10: 39
                  0
                  Quote: rotmistr60
                  when Russia stated that "we say that we can deploy our military base in Vietnam at any time," Vietnam said no.
                  And when, after the 90th, did Russia say this?

                  "Has something become of my memory"?
                  Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Nikolai Pankov reported that the Russian Defense Ministry is considering the possibility of restoring Russian military bases in Cuba and Vietnam

                  https://topwar.ru/102042-oficialnyy-hanoy-vystupa
                  et-protiv-razmescheniya-chey-libo-inostrannoy-voe
                  nnoy-bazy-vo-vetname.html
                  1. rotmistr60
                    rotmistr60 5 May 2018 10: 47
                    +1
                    About Russia is considering the possibility of ...
                    Maybe it's time to turn on the brain? Or do you not see the difference between “we can at any moment” and “the question of opportunity is being considered”?
                    1. Merold
                      Merold 5 May 2018 10: 59
                      0
                      Quote: rotmistr60
                      About Russia is considering the possibility of ...
                      Maybe it's time to turn on the brain? Or do you not see the difference between “we can at any moment” and “the question of opportunity is being considered”?

                      This is an official statement. To quote the statements of deputies and the media in exactly the same way as I wrote?
                      The point is not this, but that both the Duma and the Defense Ministry have begun to "consider the possibility" themselves. Without even warning the other side. Well, they got a "no" right for tomorrow.
                      PS: Well, why did Russia throw its allies who asked it not to do this?
      2. onix757
        onix757 5 May 2018 10: 16
        +1
        and it looks like Baikonur will have to say goodbye
        I will say more, Russia will soon say goodbye to space
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 5 May 2018 06: 49
    +6
    The Eurasian Economic Union has remained just a logistics technology for individual corporations.
    1. Romulus
      Romulus 5 May 2018 07: 30
      +7
      Quote: samarin1969
      Eurasian Economic Union

      Yeah .. about BRICS they are generally bashfully silent.
      Continuous victories in foreign policy.
      Konstantin noticed - the fools disappeared who constantly wrote - "I approve of foreign policy but do not agree with internal" ..
      Looks like the training manual was changed))
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 5 May 2018 07: 46
        +5
        Quote: Romulus
        Quote: samarin1969
        Eurasian Economic Union

        Yeah .. about BRICS they are generally bashfully silent.
        Good victories in foreign policy.
        Konstantin noticed - the fools disappeared who constantly wrote - "I approve of foreign policy but do not agree with internal" ..

        Yes, Yegor. About a year, how obscure enthusiasm for Mr. Lavrov gave way to a stream of "comments" ... Perhaps it all started when the United States, Turkey - "crawled" and "flew" into the territory of Turkey. Both opponents and allies saw that “RF” can be easily “pushed” in the international arena ... Well, BRICS, EAC are just bureaucratic-media products.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 07: 52
          +4
          Quote: samarin1969
          how obscure enthusiasm for Mr. Lavrov gave way to a stream of "comments" ...

          And who makes these comments, I dare to ask?
          Local experts? Phe negative
          Quote: samarin1969
          BRICS, EAC are simply bureaucratic-media products

          Accurate with the ratings. With aluminum, an example, you already lagged, do not repeat mistakes wink
      2. SOF
        SOF 5 May 2018 09: 46
        +1
        Quote: Romulus
        they are generally bashfully silent about BRICS.

        .... BRICS works as before .... If you do not know about it, then these are your difficulties ....
        Quote: Romulus
        Continuous victories in foreign policy.
        ... in order to evaluate not what victories, and at least progress in foreign policy it is necessary, at least, to be friends with the head, because ...

        Quote: Romulus
        fools disappeared

        ...pri.durkov, for starters, take the trouble in the morning to consider in the mirror, in the process of brushing teeth ....
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 5 May 2018 10: 05
          +2
          [quote = SOF] ... BRICS works as before [/ quote]
          tongue Did not know)
          [quote = SOF] in order to evaluate not just victories, but at least progress [/ quote]
          MY YOUR Zakharova? victories and progress have turned? wassat [quote = SOF]
          [quote = romul] about BRICS

          [quote = romul] at. idiots disappeared [/ quote]
          ...pri.durkov, for starters, take the trouble in the morning to consider in the mirror, in the process of brushing teeth .... [/ quote]
          Well excuse "comrade" phrase found its hero [tongue lol tongue
          I will give you free advice - do not mess with the old troll .. you will tire administrators with complaints .. lol
          Like in an old joke about a sniper - you will die sweating)))
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            1. Romulus
              Romulus 5 May 2018 10: 46
              +1
              Quote: SOF
              maaaalenky you are also an unreasonable election troll.

              Standing applaud ... sorry before which election? (it's time to change the training manual) yes .. the senior of the group overlooked - do not worry, we will punish him
              Sincerely, the chief specialist of Roskomnadzor hi
              1. SOF
                SOF 5 May 2018 14: 11
                +1
                Quote: Romulus
                Sincerely, the chief specialist of Roskomnadzor

                ... you look ..... but I got into the "complaint" button ... my little hands were shaking ....
                A warning slapped me.

                ... weird qualification on the site, however ... laughing
                1. Romulus
                  Romulus 5 May 2018 23: 04
                  0
                  Quote: SOF
                  weird qualifications on the site, however

                  Everything is normal on the site, then hide that smirk and that was it - a warning ... hi
                  1. SOF
                    SOF 6 May 2018 08: 40
                    0
                    ... revolving potion yes
                    In the best traditions of Harry Potter ....
                    "Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi"?
                    ... everything is calm in Baghdad ...
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  4. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 May 2018 06: 56
    +7
    Preparing for war with Iran. Interestingly, the Kazakhs understand this?
    In short, they launched the enemy toward their most vulnerable place.
    And then the Americans will put there an anti-missile defense against missiles from Iran ...
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 5 May 2018 09: 24
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      Preparing for war with Iran. Interestingly, the Kazakhs understand this?

      So you yourself have taught them to "lease" the training ground at the cosmodrome and so on. ...
      so they catch what swims ... and then they sit and play Indian solitaire
  5. Holsten
    Holsten 5 May 2018 07: 15
    +9
    Kazakhstan's next step: a state military base near the borders of Russia to prevent Russian aggression.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 5 May 2018 07: 40
      +6
      Quote: Holsten
      Kazakhstan's next step: a state military base near the borders of Russia to prevent Russian aggression.

      Pentagon tank. a laboratory closed from prying eyes in the city of Alma-Ata is not considered a base. An innocent such facility of the United States, the development of bio. weapons "not involved."
      "Manas" in Kyrgyzstan: rebranding was carried out with the base - it became ... the center of transit traffic, until it was kicked out completely.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 5 May 2018 08: 25
        +1
        First a base, then “events” of various kinds (Kyrgyzstan - “tulips”, Uzbekistan - “Andijan 2005”), then parting with US bases, Kazakhstan is next in line?
  6. Dormidont
    Dormidont 5 May 2018 07: 16
    +1
    Debt payment is beautiful
  7. I am Russian
    I am Russian 5 May 2018 07: 20
    +6
    It is necessary to take away the Russian lands - the present northern Kazakhstan, to oneself back. And let the Kazakhs go in the sun burning with the wind, driven away from us.
    1. A good one
      A good one 5 May 2018 07: 24
      +9
      It would be nice, but there enlightenment and culture, without the Russians, can run wild. Do not agree.
    2. himRa
      himRa 5 May 2018 07: 36
      +6
      There is one BUT!
      You fought for the freedom and independence of Kazakhstan? I'm sure not, but the Kazakhs fought for the freedom and independence of the Russian Federation!
      during the Second World War.
      And even easier: go and take it
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        1. himRa
          himRa 5 May 2018 08: 53
          +1
          Quote: Humpty
          Uncle, it’s nothing that only those Kazakhs from the Kazakhs who fought to the last were born in either the Russian Federation or the Republic of Ingushetia fought in the Second World War.

          I do not deny, but he who does not remember the past has no future (s)
          And by the way, the traitors among the Kazakhs are much smaller than among the Russians, even in percentage terms, and this says that the Kazakhs wholeheartedly accepted Soviet power!
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 5 May 2018 12: 36
            0
            Quote: himRa
            And by the way, the traitors among the Kazakhs are much smaller than among the Russians, even in percentage terms, and this says that the Kazakhs wholeheartedly accepted Soviet power!

            Everyone got it, everyone fought as best they could. I don’t know who applied interest, but in my opinion, it’s somewhat mocking to count the percentage of traitors among those who were not obviously inclined to this.
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      3. I am Russian
        I am Russian 5 May 2018 08: 06
        +1
        And even easier: go and take it

        There will be political will and steel eggs in the Kremlin, a subpoena from the military registration and enlistment office will pass me, or there will be a need for a voluntary movement — I will come, wait.
        1. himRa
          himRa 5 May 2018 08: 49
          +3
          If yes, if .... sofa in general ...
          Read the newspapers in RI on the eve of the WWII,
          Similar capricious and provocative statements were in the majority of, not indifferent, people.
          what about
          come wait

          I wanted to spit!
          firstly I live in Krasnoyarsk
          secondly, I have someone to protect from such, “Nazis,” my sons, and even not an old man himself!
          ..... wait ... wait and most importantly sparkle with your eyes more severely!
        2. Evgeny Goncharov
          Evgeny Goncharov 6 May 2018 05: 33
          0
          that is, ass on the couch. Chtd.
      4. Mikhail Zubkov
        Mikhail Zubkov 5 May 2018 08: 52
        +2
        All citizens of the USSR fought not for the freedom and independence of the Russian Federation, but for their freedom and independence. And virgin soil in the steppes was raised for the common, and not the Kazakh good, by the whole great country, and they also opened up space, and nuclear weapons too. Before the war, Stalin gave the Kazakhs all forms of state development on a vast territory, including the ancient Cossack lands along the Yaik (Ural River), and the Kazakhs now Russian brazenly survive from there. Insolence and ingratitude are punishable.
        1. himRa
          himRa 5 May 2018 13: 51
          +3
          All citizens of the USSR fought not for freedom and independence of the Russian Federation, but for their freedom and independence

          The Russian Federation is not considered the legal successor of the USSR to Kazakhstan! They are trying to appropriate all the victories and successes of the USSR in the Russian Federation
          (Russian troops under Stalingrad, etc. myths)
          Do not try to let the fog
          including the ancient Cossack lands along the Yaik (Ural River), and the Kazakhs now Russian brazenly survive from there.

          You just don’t have to go far into history, otherwise it will turn out that there were no Russians there, the Urals was a river of Kazakhs and Bashkirs and Tatars, and speaking generally the river of Turks ...
          Cossacks did not consider themselves Russian, possibly Slavs, and even recently (1700-1800, when in fact they were no longer needed) and before that they were runaway criminals driven to the outskirts of the state and playing a role of captive border guards ...
          if in England the criminals were patronized by pirates in the Republic of Ingushetia, it was the same only as Cossacks who scouted new territories for exploration, the example of Ermak, who robbed on the Volga, was pressed, he escaped to the Urals, when there was again the danger of the court, he talked to sponsors and went to Siberia for intelligence which he later tried to exchange for mercy, but died of starvation and raids of the Tatars, since the Slavs were not adapted to Siberian conditions ...
          You can go and fight the neighbors, and lose the rest of respect from everyone not Russian in Russia I’m not your assistant in this !!! good luck
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 5 May 2018 09: 49
      +1
      It is necessary to give all ethnic Russians living in "abroad" Russian citizenship (without any conditions) and to encourage repatriation. In the Russian Federation, the Far East is “depopulated” and in Siberia there are not so many people. Why the Russian Federation "new territory"?
    4. pap
      pap 6 May 2018 09: 11
      +1
      Well, start picking up right from today. What is so trifling.
  8. Opera
    Opera 5 May 2018 07: 34
    +1
    Azerbaijan-Kazakhstan-Uzbekistan ... What about you ?! Normal American route! How are others experiencing ... our "real friends" !!!! Americans do not fly over them yet ... And do not drive! But there is something to strive for !!!
  9. onix757
    onix757 5 May 2018 07: 38
    +11
    Absolutely incompetent foreign and domestic policies will lead the country to disaster.
    1. Opera
      Opera 5 May 2018 08: 51
      +3
      For a gifted credit policy, Kazakhstan should probably be distributed according to yours ?! A generous investment to direct ?! Build something ?! And further down the list, Uzbeks, Armenians, Azerbaijanis cannot be forgotten, and of course generously and disinterestedly make amends for their "guilt" before the Georgians !!! And with apologetic faces and smiles, let Belarusian creeps pass in jamon !!!
      We have already benefited all the allies in their time, we have created states, we have invented nations, we have built ports, enterprises ... We pay now! Good-swim know! Other measures must be taken! Not at all kiss-gift!
      1. onix757
        onix757 5 May 2018 09: 02
        +1
        For a “free” policy, at least you need to be an economically developed and social state. The hurt of the USSR is not eternal. With regard to loans, in recent years they have been simplified by more than a dozen eternally green billions, and this is not counting investments in projects with dubious paybacks.
        1. Opera
          Opera 5 May 2018 09: 33
          +1
          In that case, please announce at what time these loans were distributed and why, in fact ?! Did they really hope that they would return ?! About the USSR, here in general on any topic, Yaroslavna’s cry is worth it! All 70 years the policy of raising the national suburbs! It was carried out both completely publicly and behind the scenes ... In this, we succeeded unconditionally! The national suburbs lived with us better and richer than the metropolis! Some are very wealthy! This is about dubious projects ... Of course, they are now offended to sell flowers and vegetables in Russia! No need to talk about the Union all the time and for any reason. You cannot enter the same river 2 times, unfortunately and fortunately. And for those who have been doing this all the time for a long time, it is necessary to understand such state formations as the former Soviet republics, due to their historically developed complexes, they will always be looking for someone to go to! With Russia, it’s not particularly profitable for them now because, thanks to the policy of giving away and making friends at the expense of its indigenous population, Russia has departed from the glory of God! And they are trying to spread rot on all sides! Fear "friends" and predicts the winner on whose side and run en masse! Remember the Warsaw Pact, CMEA! Our story is full of such events! And the history of "our friends" does not teach at all! For some reason, they are always mistaken at the expense of Russia. Wrong this time too!
          1. onix757
            onix757 5 May 2018 10: 21
            +1
            In that case, please announce at what time these loans were distributed and why, in fact ?!

            then loans were given to ideologically close countries and for expanding the sphere of influence. This is probably more honest and understandable than building, in a country shooting down aircraft of the Russian Federation, a nuclear power station at its own expense with a dubious prospect of payback.
            1. Opera
              Opera 5 May 2018 10: 35
              +1
              Did you get a lot of profit from this ideology ?! As soon as they stopped giving money or free equipment, products, raw materials ... the ideological vector of the partners changed! And we do not make gifts to the Turks. This has already been written about, forgive me, I don’t want to repeat myself! But the constant calls to influence (how? Money naturally) on the development vector of the post-Soviet republics are absolutely crafty things, while speaking about raising your own economy! We are simply obliged to influence in two cases, if there is a situation that threatens the national security of Russia and the abuse of the Russian population! An example of this is Crimea and Donbass! On the other hand, there really is a threat to security in general and to Russians in particular! Everything is done in this direction and will be done! Of course I would like to be quicker, but as they say, a person suggests this, but God disposes! I cannot but say one more thing — the effectiveness of the program for the return of compatriots to their homeland must be increased! I think this is one of the strategic directions! But I do not see the point of sobbing about the coming to power in one small but very proud republic of liberals! Let the proud sob later!
          2. onix757
            onix757 5 May 2018 10: 24
            +1
            About the USSR, here in general on any topic, Yaroslavna’s cry is worth it! All 70 years the policy of raising the national suburbs!

            Under the USSR, there was an understandable and economically justified division of labor between republics. Enough to nod to the USSR, despite the fact that the share of the Russian Federation in world GDP since the 2000s has decreased by 2 times
          3. onix757
            onix757 5 May 2018 10: 26
            +1
            And they are trying to spread rot on all sides! Fear "friends" and predicts the winner on whose side and run en masse!

            The Russian Federation spread rot itself content with the situation of a peripheral economy.
          4. onix757
            onix757 5 May 2018 10: 29
            0
            Remember the Warsaw Pact, CMEA! Our story is full of such events!

            I recall with pleasure the time when "civilized Europe" consisted of France and half of Germany.
            1. Opera
              Opera 5 May 2018 11: 00
              +1
              Oh, how did everyone turn it out ?! Enough to nod to the USSR are you telling me ?!))) You always answer without reading what ?! Look at the above, I just spoke about this and said that for any reason and without it at all, it is not worth translating the discussion into the USSR! Well, and what you with pleasure recall is generally from the category of some sort of confusion in your soul ... If someone betrayed or was friends of interest to you, you will reproach yourself, oh, I missed him something, oh, I cared little about him , ah, if I hadn’t bought a fur coat for her, but bought two, then would she have gone to the other .... Funny! Do you miss the three tankmen and the dog ?! A woman with a cart is easier! The USSR rebuilt half of Europe after the war, when our people themselves were malnourished! In gratitude, now those about whom you suffer are mocking at the memory of our heroes, the monuments are being destroyed! The truth must be looked into the eyes! And act accordingly! And not "I suffered from the bridge from the bridge into the ciganul river" all the more because of friends who were never such!
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 5 May 2018 13: 49
                0
                Do you need mannerheim boards, a draped Mausoleum, and other attempts to spit conscience in the Soviet past, or what do you have instead of it?
                1. Opera
                  Opera 5 May 2018 22: 47
                  0
                  I will not respond to your low behavior. I was born and raised in the USSR and this is also my country, like today's Russia! Not the same as you give estimates and you can only spit in the monitor. You won’t dare otherwise!
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 6 May 2018 12: 52
                    0
                    Well, what's the point of being born and raised? Weed is also born and grows. And you, in view of the lack of intelligence and conscience, are the weed.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 May 2018 08: 12
    +1
    The Kazakhs moved under meritkatos ... The other day the GDP spoke on the phone the other day with Nazarbayev, maybe he warned about the consequences of a "friendship" with those who were made up? request
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 5 May 2018 08: 21
      +1
      Seryoga, hello! hi To know the whole background of such movements ... But who will open it to us. sad
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 5 May 2018 13: 36
        +1
        Hello Pasha! hi I agree, we don’t know much ...
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  12. gukoyan
    gukoyan 5 May 2018 08: 35
    0
    Well, we are waiting for a new Maidan with new NATO bases ...
  13. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 5 May 2018 08: 42
    0
    Glad for Nazarbayev! Found new friends? Greetings to him from Gaddafi and from Saddam Hussein!
    They already checked, the States are great friends!
    By the way, this friendship is also very pleasant to the Chinese!
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 5 May 2018 12: 44
      0
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Glad for Nazarbayev! Found new friends?

      He did not make any new friends. All long-standing. Just the garlic showed up.
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      this friendship is also very pleasant to the Chinese!

      "Like it." And Russia will be asked for sure why they are jumping right next to you, and you are clapping your ears.
  14. Kaskad
    Kaskad 5 May 2018 08: 44
    0
    They let the Kazakhs "goat and in the garden" ... They will arrange a "bloody democracy" for you there! Eh Nazarbayev did not expect ..
  15. Abram
    Abram 5 May 2018 08: 47
    +1
    correct solution. to avoid the appearance in Kazakhstan of "polite little men" from the Russian Federation or China
  16. gorenina91
    gorenina91 5 May 2018 08: 55
    +5
    -In Russia, the population is not very familiar with the Kazakhs ... -Everything is more by hearsay ... -But Omsk and the Omsk region make such an acquaintance to the fullest ... -the number of Kazakhs is simply horrifying ... -Recently, my acquaintance took her little daughter to children's clinic, she lives in the Starokirovsky district of Omsk ... -so in this clinic there is one Kazakh kid ...- all the corridors of the hospital are filled with her .. -such impression that this is not Russia already, but real Kazakhstan. .. -And on the streets of Omsk it became commonplace when a pregnant Kazakh woman of about 25 walks and rolls a stroller with an infant, and a third child of five years old is already clobbering ... Russian maternity capital played such a cruel joke over Omsk ... . -I'm far from being a nationalist .. but Kazakhs are hardly a worthy "replacement" for the Russian population ... -but this ... unfortunately ... is happening ... -To this should also be added the fact that the Kazakhs ( especially young people) began to behave very aggressively towards Russians ... -I imagine what the Russians "have" in Kazakhstan itself ...- Such a brother’s case ..
    1. Giants
      Giants 5 May 2018 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: gorenina91
      - To this should be added the fact that the Kazakhs (especially young people) began to behave very aggressively towards the Russians ... - I imagine what the Russians "have" in Kazakhstan itself.

      They did not, they always behaved like that. He personally lived in Kazakhstan from October 1979 to June 1990, the city of New Uzen (Zhana Ozen now). In the summer of 89th there were pogroms, a curfew, and conscripts and other delights. For 28 years I have not seen a single living Kazakh, thank God for the little joys.
    2. himRa
      himRa 5 May 2018 14: 56
      +3
      Quote: gorenina91
      I am far from being a nationalist .. but Kazakhs are hardly a worthy "replacement" for the Russian population ... but this ... unfortunately ... is happening ..

      You are a nationalist if you divide the citizens of the Russian Federation by nationality,
      you have to give birth to a darling and not to politics, play
  17. Million
    Million 5 May 2018 08: 58
    +2
    Our government is working poorly, if this is the case with the neighbors. It remains to Belarus to join NATO, to the heap
  18. watchmaker
    watchmaker 5 May 2018 09: 18
    0
    Well now Kazakhstan
    will receive a wagon of preziks from the United States as a gift, and all world media will scream that the United States is helping this country fight AIDS .....
    Good work, good agreement, most importantly - MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL !!!!!
  19. heavy division
    heavy division 5 May 2018 09: 43
    +1
    Southern underbelly under attack
    And without any Syria
  20. leo3972
    leo3972 5 May 2018 09: 53
    0
    I wonder if the Kazakhs built the railway of Kazakhstan? or we! am
  21. farcop
    farcop 5 May 2018 09: 53
    +1
    Nazarbayev is handsome, he is really a politician who is feeling where the wind is blowing. Very bad news for Russia. Nazarbayev doesn’t want the provocative negotiations on Syria to be hung on him.
  22. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 5 May 2018 09: 54
    +1
    Nazarbayev has eaten a dog in politics and is not as simple as it seems. I think the issue of transit of American cargo through the territory of Kazakhstan was agreed with Moscow the same scheme as in Kyrgyzstan, there was only air traffic, something went wrong transit stopped from the United States apparently there are no other options for transit
  23. romb
    romb 5 May 2018 10: 00
    +1
    Uh ... how in the comments they started to fuss. laughing
    Do not need the usual tantrum. This is a common analogue of Ulyanovsk 2.0.
    1. pap
      pap 6 May 2018 09: 28
      +2
      Article 1
      Clause 2 of Article 3 of the Agreement shall be amended as follows:

      "2. Commercial railway transit of special cargo and accompanying personnel must pass through the following checkpoints:

      a) from the Russian Federation / to the Russian Federation: Iletsk / Zhaisan;

      b) from the Republic of Uzbekistan / to the Republic of Uzbekistan: Sary-Agach / Keles and / or Beineu / Karakalpakia;

      c) from the Republic of Kazakhstan / to the Republic of Kazakhstan: port of Aktau;

      d) from the Republic of Kazakhstan / to the Republic of Kazakhstan: the port of Kuryk. "
  24. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 5 May 2018 10: 01
    0
    Noble Nazarbayev was taken for eggs, freezing Kazakh reserves ...
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  26. steelmaker
    steelmaker 5 May 2018 10: 25
    0
    Again Lavrov nakosyachil. Under Lavrov, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs only states facts. And ahead is still Armenia. Down with Lavrov !!
    1. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 5 May 2018 12: 34
      +1
      Quote: steel maker
      Again Lavrov nakosyachil. Under Lavrov, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs only states facts. And ahead is still Armenia. Down with Lavrov !!

      Why are there so few exclamation points? Did the hand jump off the key? Or just laziness?
  27. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 5 May 2018 10: 25
    +4
    I read the comments and wonder: where are the defeatist thoughts from the community and even from members of the forum unnoticed in alarmism? Nothing terrible, in principle, happens. The Embassy of Kazakhstan in Moscow has already clarified what is happening. Questions on the transit of US cargo were previously discussed with the Russian side. We are satisfied. There are no American bases in the Caspian Sea and there will never be. The information appeared on the Caspian is a fake from scratch. The Americans will deliver their cargo to the port of Baku by rail, and then by ferry across the Caspian. And that’s it.
    The fact that the United States got stuck in Afghanistan and took over the Taliban is beneficial for us. So let them carry their goods to Afghanistan. There was a time when we also transported goods to Afghanistan. Now let the Americans carry.
    For those who are not in the subject, I tell you. In the 90s, the Taliban officially supported Chechen terrorists and provided them with comprehensive support - financial and material, as well as people. For us, it was then imperative to push the Taliban away from the border with Tajikistan, which we were guarding. And so we supported the movement of the Northern Alliance - with heavy weapons and equipment, as well as fuels and lubricants and ammunition, respectively. Now, the Americans are fully engaged in this. It's already 17 years, and let them fight for another 50 years.
    1. himRa
      himRa 5 May 2018 14: 46
      +2
      Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
      Already 17 years old, and let them fight for another 50 years

      I agree, with you, I will note an adequate assessment of the situation without injection passions like: it’s time for the Kazakhs to take away northern Kazakhstan for treason fool
  28. onix757
    onix757 5 May 2018 11: 40
    +1
    Golovan Jack,
    Why did you need a “military contingent” in Cuba? For show-offs, or what?

    Oh, I didn’t need it, but the country and he was there. Now strain again and find the difference between the terms of the intelligence center and the base)
  29. onix757
    onix757 5 May 2018 11: 44
    0
    Golovan Jack,
    How much will it cost, you even ask a senseless thing, a campaign.

    That's right, go to the website of the Audit Chamber and look at the statistics about the “misuse” of budget funds (read theft) and divide by 3. I think it’s not more expensive.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 11: 46
      +1
      Quote: onix757
      I think ...

      Do not slander yourself.
      No other questions? Well, that's nice, as it was expected.
      Swim further hi
      1. onix757
        onix757 5 May 2018 11: 58
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Do not slander yourself.

        Not hamie hat
        No other questions? Well, that's nice, as it was expected.

        see below
        Swim further

        such imaginary patriots are the first to tear into hated Europe
  30. onix757
    onix757 5 May 2018 11: 45
    0
    Golovan Jack,
    They “don’t” give dollars. ”The Russian Federation, oddly enough, earns these dollars.

    How does it make money?)
    1. onix757
      onix757 5 May 2018 11: 51
      0
      Show me how Cuba is ready (in commodity quantities) to earn rubles?

      Cuba exported nickel, cobalt, citrus fruits, sugar. And this is not to mention the true allied relations between the countries and the presence of a territory 200 km from the partner of the Russian Federation)
  31. 501Legion
    501Legion 5 May 2018 11: 47
    +1
    I will now supply drugs with wagons) however
    1. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 5 May 2018 12: 32
      +4
      Quote: 501Legion
      I will now supply drugs with wagons) however

      interesting little confession, however ... laughing
  32. Rostislav
    Rostislav 5 May 2018 13: 55
    +1
    It seemed to the Kazakhs a little heroin, which gets to them from Afghanistan? Decided to help penguins continue to build crops?
  33. Maximys
    Maximys 5 May 2018 16: 16
    +1
    The former Central Asian republics have no rail links with Afghanistan. But the position of Kazakhstan in recent years, to put it mildly, has been alarming. And this is all under Nazarbayev, and he is not eternal. For the sake of the current political situation, I would not want to worsen relations with the fraternal people.
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  35. Cannonball
    Cannonball 6 May 2018 00: 13
    +1
    Opportunities for US transit of special cargo on Kazakhstani railways.

    And how will they get to Kazakhstan? Through Azerbaijan and the Caspian?
  36. Kors.
    Kors. 6 May 2018 18: 00
    +2
    I was born, raised and live in Kazakhstan for 60 years. My business colleagues are 80 percent Kazakh. And there has never been a case of discrimination on ethnic grounds. So everyone living in another country and leaving comments on this topic, then do not write what you do not know. I know people who fled from Kazakhstan in the 90s (not because they were oppressed, but because they did not know how to earn money, although no one bothered them to do it). And I know how new neighbors who moved to the outback Russia damaged property (old "pennies" and "six"), they say, the fist came, got rich on our sweat and blood. I am not a conformist, but a realist. PS I don’t know how to change the flag to Kazakhstan . Not masked. "Mattress" stylized drew.