Do you need such a cow yourself? Qatari and Swiss will not share Rosneft with China

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The Qatar sovereign fund QIA and the Swiss company Glencore have decided to refuse to sell the previously acquired stakes in Russian Rosneft to China. Recall that in 2016, the Qatari and Swiss within the privatization campaign announced by Rosneft, acquired 19,5% of its shares, having previously created a consortium.

Last year, amid rising oil prices, the Qatari-Swiss consortium decided to sell 14,16% of Rosneft’s stake. Interest in the shares showed in the Chinese company CEFC. A corresponding agreement has already been signed, which stipulated that the Chinese would be the final purchaser of the said block of shares.



Do you need such a cow yourself? Qatari and Swiss will not share Rosneft with China


However, it is now known that Glencore and QIA notified the Chinese CEFC of the termination. The release was published by the press service of commodity trader Glencore. While the consortium decided not to sell about the specific reasons for the fact that Rosneft’s shares have not been officially announced.

Experts suggest that the agreement Glencore and QIA decided to withdraw in connection with forecasts for oil prices. Earlier there was evidence that Brent crude could step over the psychological mark of 80 dollars per barrel by the end of the summer of 2018. Probably, the Swiss-Qatari consortium decided to postpone the sale of the share package in order to simply earn more.
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    1. +15
      4 May 2018 19: 33
      Brent crude oil can step over the psychological mark of $ 80 per barrel by the end of the summer of 2018.

      Us from this nothing breaks offbelieve me ... wink
      1. +9
        4 May 2018 19: 38
        Alexey, you are wrong! Yes So at least they will not raise the retirement age! good Already a plus! laughing wink
        1. +39
          4 May 2018 19: 49
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Already a plus!

          1. +33
            4 May 2018 20: 10
            Hrych, and to universal equality and brotherhood - far away? Well, or ask a simpler question, when will gasoline prices be lower than those of an adversary ??? Or on diesel fuel of "deep" processing - from which the "stake" technique rises ??? request
            And thanks for the Planetarium! Yes I’ll definitely take a look at the small ones! Yes
            1. +37
              4 May 2018 20: 41
              In Russia, a new collectivization took place (not just collective farms, but Putin's agricultural holdings) and a new industrialization. And the layman stupidly and did not notice in his own skin. And something else creak on the blogs. Stalin was preparing for a major war and understood that these two projects were difficult, but necessary for victory in the inevitable war. In a nutshell - this is the country's food safety and a self-sufficient industry, primarily strategic and military. Putin also achieved all this, food safety is expressed in the self-sufficiency of the state in grain, meat and milk. So much so that they not only provided themselves with grain, but broke out into export leaders. This does not make sense to deny. The rearmament of the army is also understandable, and this is in parallel with the general industrial level of the country. First of all, SNF and SPRN, Voronezh closed the holes of the Soviet SPRN that suffered from the death of the Union, destroyed the early detection stations in Latvia and Kazakhstan. Gabala was used even with a creak, but the blow from the Baltic and the Indian Ocean could simply be disarming as Tridents. Although Voivods, Topol and Sinev remained from the USSR for a guaranteed answer, but the SPRN needed to be urgently created and Voronezh closed the holes. Also, a massive strike by the Kyrgyz Republic and the Stealth with a low-altitude breakthrough became impossible thanks to the ZGRLS Container. Then the entire line of BR, KR was created and a combat satellite group was deployed, and a dozen nuclear submarines were built and are under construction. All this costs enormous resources. Tensions of the state and citizens. Also, the Russian Federation is constantly fighting, either for the North Caucasus, or rather for state integrity, now for the Ridge, now for the Crimea, then for Syria. All this costs money, so gasoline is cheaper in any way. This is a contribution to victory. And this is such a small amount, taking into account that the ancestors had to pay as for collectivization, industrialization and victory in the war.
              1. +24
                4 May 2018 21: 03
                For the Caucasus, I paid with blood ... in your opinion - should I continue with gasoline, diesel fuel and utilities? This is when I managed to owe so much ??? belay
                Deripaska, Abramovich, Prokhorov, Usmanov, Potanin and others ... should not, but I owe it ??? sad Amazing thinking !!!
                Income tax - tie to income, Maybe - let Me out of debt!
                1. +25
                  4 May 2018 21: 10
                  They must give to the Motherland and Ethnos all that is and not to bay. There is no understanding, no desire, you have to force, in a pinch, dispose of it. On the scale of humanity and history, your personality and your desires do not mean anything. Therefore, pay for utilities and gas, as expected. Millions of people are also involved there, from plumbers, drillers to top managers, with the latest minuscule. And why should drillers and plumbers give you at the expense of yourself? I do not like to pay for comfort - forward to the hut and on foot. And since he did not want to fight for socialism - obey, fought for socialism and lost - obey.
                  1. +10
                    4 May 2018 21: 18
                    And what kind of mentor tone is this? You yourself are the smartest, of course, see ..? A man shared his opinion with us all, you accept, isn’tOn the scale of humanity and history, your personality and your desires do not mean anything wink
                    1. +25
                      4 May 2018 21: 27
                      My personality and my desires as well as yours on the scale of history do not mean anything. Ethnicity is important, the State is important, our Civilization is important. Perhaps I’m only aware of this, unlike you. laughing Liberoids, or rather their masters in enemy think tanks, are trying to instill in every afflicted person the idea of ​​significance, saying that the state is for people, not people for the state. When the majority believes in this, the state will perish, but this member will not survive, well, unless he will live longer as a slave. The anthill is important, the beehive is important, and the ant and the bee separately are nothing.
                      1. +9
                        4 May 2018 23: 12
                        ..but if 2/3 of the hive dies, then the hive is generally doomed, although the dead ones included those you don’t put in anything, bees, one or two each.
                        Once again, enough slogans, Zhirik is already across the throat, and you there too.
                  2. +15
                    4 May 2018 21: 27
                    Beautifully said !!! Just think for a second, why in Russia - Everyone should be from birth ??? But in the Emirates - on the contrary, the state should be born ???
                    Well, "recycle" laughing laughing laughing - Believe me, you’ll get tired - like you, if necessary, I’ll put a dozen.
                    Well, now we catch up with Schwonder ...
                    Harsh years go
                    Fights for the freedom of the Country ...
                    Others come after them ...
                    They will be difficult too ...
                    laughing laughing laughing fool hi
                    1. +15
                      4 May 2018 21: 33
                      Quote: Hunter 2
                      such as you, if necessary, I’ll put a dozen.

                      So shkolota argues laughing
                      There are election results, the people have decided, the people understand everything, the people are ready to endure (by the way, there is nothing special to endure), the people trust Pilot. Obey or rake in full.
                      1. +8
                        4 May 2018 21: 41
                        So shkolota argues
                        Without insults, he shed blood for us. Do not speak for the people and do not teach us how to live, and may you be happy ...
                      2. +11
                        4 May 2018 21: 50
                        Q.E.D! We dive behind the back of Big Brother, the Great Helmsman!
                        I - pay taxes, and everything else ... create jobs, albeit not much ... but at least something. I love my homeland! Not on the couch, but on an adult ... And he stood behind it ... And Putin is Tauride for Me, but .... if you don’t agree that there is no money - but you hold on, a priori, The enemy of the people !!! You yourself are not funny ??? Although - I think not! I will answer with a quote from Faina Ranevskaya. Horseradish, based on the opinions of others, provides a calm and happy life! stop
                      3. +5
                        4 May 2018 23: 14
                        Oh, how ... already helmsman ... well, well ... let's appoint a helmsman for life. I didn’t want a comparison, but just like the Inov will have ... or the Kazakhs)))).
                    2. +3
                      5 May 2018 04: 09
                      Well, "dispose" of laughing laughing laughing - believe me, you will get tired - like you, if necessary, I’ll put a dozen.
                      However, you’re formidable, my friend, I’m only afraid that you’ve got a “put-up” on your desatches ...
                      1. +4
                        5 May 2018 05: 59
                        Quote: 72jora72
                        Well, "dispose" of laughing laughing laughing - believe me, you will get tired - like you, if necessary, I’ll put a dozen.
                        However, you’re formidable, my friend, I’m only afraid that you’ve got a “put-up” on your desatches ...

                        Yes, here everything is, Dartians, believe me! wassat
                        But anyway .... I propose to sing a song, by the way is not bad laughing :
                    3. +2
                      5 May 2018 04: 23
                      Quote: Hunter 2
                      But in the Emirates - on the contrary, should the state be born?
                      I would not envy. 100 years of prosperity, and then what? Sand again.
                  3. +5
                    4 May 2018 23: 10
                    Tovarisch ... you are upset ... just like in the movies ... "obey" .... you need this ... a psychologist is needed.
                    Yes, and enough slogans, let's essentially. And drillers and plumbers, compare not comparable .. yes and top managers too.
                    1. +5
                      4 May 2018 23: 18
                      What are you talking about, wise guy? Come on, not philosophize wassat
                      Quote: Kent0001
                      but if 2/3 of the hive dies, then the hive is generally doomed

                      Here so that this does not happen, you need to nail 2% of your brother laughing , and dispose of ten thousand no more and everything will be fine with the hive.
                  4. +1
                    6 May 2018 22: 06
                    Go to the "garden" ..te .. This is politely "tydra" to "you" I appeal .. And yes, Russia already flew to Mars yesterday, well, "while everyone was sleeping"? Diluted a basket of milk with "free" schools? Ali began to eat meat instead of pasta? Go to the GARDEN, fabulous (*****) magician with a digital sign.
              2. +9
                4 May 2018 21: 30
                Grunt. I understand everything costs money. Just why, after the war, prices were reduced, but now they are increasing. What you are telling is that it’s being built there, well built, and then it fell from the sky. To create a nuclear bomb is not to walk along the beaten track, after the collapse of the USSR, .. And note all this at our expense. And I think what kind of pop is such a parish.
                1. +7
                  4 May 2018 21: 49
                  Quote: RedKors1953
                  Grunt. I understand everything costs money. Just why, after the war, prices were reduced, but now they are increasing.

                  There are laws of the economy, there is inflation, there is a pricing mechanism. Here, colleagues post that gasoline is becoming more expensive at high and low oil prices. But they forget one thing, our citizens produce this oil, our citizens transport it and process it, our citizens work at gas stations, etc. They are paid a salary, they are paid social services, and oil revenues go to state employees who also raised it. For the increase in salary, the teacher should increase the price of gasoline, incl. In turn, the price of gasoline increases the cost of food and so on in a circle. Such is the economic system in the world and in order to change it, it is necessary to defeat the World Order. Destroy New York and London, then we can talk about changing the laws of the economy.
                  1. +5
                    4 May 2018 23: 17
                    our citizens produce this oil,
                    It's me smile
                    . They’re getting better salaries
                    Come on.... laughing
                    The salary has not been rising for a long time, they are cutting everything that is possible and impossible ... There is no desire to go on shift, they completely repulsed the desire to work, and what to do ... There is nowhere else to go, and they use it ...
                  2. +4
                    5 May 2018 00: 57
                    There are statistics. And she reports that Russia's GDP has been treading water for several years.
                    The stagnation of the economy is called.
                    Or turtle growth at the level of statistical error.
                    While other countries are confidently adding a normal 3-4 percent.
                    1. +1
                      5 May 2018 01: 00
                      Quote: voyaka uh

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                      voyaka uh (Alexey) Today, 00: 57 ↑ New
                      There are statistics

                      Quote: voyaka uh

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                      voyaka uh (Alexey) Today, 00: 57 ↑ New
                      There are statistics

                      Lesha, why are you salt on sugar, sprinkle with local locals lol
                    2. +2
                      5 May 2018 01: 21
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Called stagnation of the economy

                      Aw, not good, really. Well what to do? Tell me, you are smart Yes
                    3. +7
                      5 May 2018 01: 42
                      Where do atomic submarines, bridges, spaceports, gas pipelines come from? Due to stagnation? And the icebreaker fleet. Or is there no rearmament, just cartoons? What about the nuclear industry? It is necessary to judge by cases, by results, and not by stupid figures. The real sector of the economy in Russia per capita is not inferior to the United States and surpasses the Chinese. For the US population is still 2,2 times more, and the population of China is 9 times. And in general, what is your reason to judge Russia in general? Are you an economist? Or who?
                      1. +2
                        5 May 2018 08: 19
                        My friend, I’m keeping silent about submarines .... but why do you need bridges, spaceports and gas pipelines ..... an icebreaker fleet? It’s sweeter, I’m sure, you didn’t eat, like your children ...... Why crack ice if you don’t carry goods there? And I don’t want to talk about ports, basing points .....
                      2. +2
                        5 May 2018 08: 28
                        Quote: hrych
                        Where do atomic submarines, bridges, spaceports, gas pipelines come from? Due to stagnation? And the icebreaker fleet. Or is there no rearmament, just cartoons? What about the nuclear industry? It is necessary to judge by cases, by results, and not by stupid figures. The real sector of the economy in Russia per capita is not inferior to the United States and surpasses the Chinese. For the US population is still 2,2 times more, and the population of China is 9 times. And in general, what is your reason to judge Russia in general? Are you an economist? Or who?

                        I would like the numbers for the group of goods "A" (production of production tools) And not about the workshop for screwdriver assembly of foreign components. I highly suspect that out of 165 “large” production facilities opened in the Russian Federation in 2017 (according to your post), 165 are “candle factory” and not a single machine-tool or heavy machine tool.
                        PS. Yes, nuclear submarines, spaceports, gas pipelines are all the legacy of the times it is. Still holding on.
                    4. +1
                      5 May 2018 02: 10
                      In Russia, this is called negative growth. Do not port to statistics
                    5. +2
                      5 May 2018 08: 20
                      I looked at the statistics of Russia's GDP growth since 2000. Looking at what to compare, this growth ranges from doubling to tripling GDP in 17 years.
                    6. +3
                      5 May 2018 14: 18
                      There are no miracles in nature. If in China they stele to make 1 million (conditionally) more cars, this does not mean that there will be 1 million more motorists on the planet, it means that somewhere in Britain, Germany, the USA or Japan (in total) they will make 1 million less !! fool It’s not me who’s “head-on”; these are the laws of capitalism you love so much - you can do more, but you can’t do more consumers (markets). It is just that often a war is fought specifically for markets and the latest US actions are just very revealing with all sorts of sanctions and tariffs.
                      If we talk about Stangnation, then we look at Japan, and there’s no one who can’t blame them for “mediocre governance” of the country like that, not the country - “sweetie,” the yacht, but you’re accomplished - they themselves admit that they’ve been mired for the third decade now in the swamp of stagnation and deja deflation. belay . So you can’t just hang a "meter label", you often need to understand the background of this situation very carefully. And you don’t have to stick out your Izrail here - just your “free access to all markets” is the feint with your ears that you often “modestly sweep under the carpet”. And all for some reason - yes, because often this preference was obtained by “tearful pressure on pity” and the use of the “dead” (izra on anti-Semitism).
                      Yes, only “tricky berry” can explain the year-round location of the Izrailov radishes in local stores, but not at all at a competitive price or usefulness. am negative
                      Yes, and it’s time for a long time to close dual citizenship with your country, and yes to introduce a visa regime - otherwise any shakalya that is not watched here barely has time to catch and kick them out. am
              3. +9
                4 May 2018 22: 04
                Agroholding "Our breadbasket" Gagarinsky district, Smolensk. 3 years all plowed and sowed. In the fall of 17 years, not everything is plowed, much less sown. Moreover, I have not yet seen their work this year. The analogy with the Gagarinsky plywood factory immediately suggests itself. It was sold to the Austrians 4 years after launch. Founders are the same people. I read your comments below. Therefore, I dare to remind you of something. Who was responsible for the failures in foreign policy: Georgia, Ukraine, now Armenia and Kazakhstan? At low oil prices, excise taxes on fuel and the so-called tax maneuver were increased. Now oil prices have grown more than 2 times, and gasoline has increased by 2 rubles since the new year. And Rosneft pays record dividends. Where is the sir logic? Further. There is no money, but you hold on - the famous phrase of a famous, not very respected person. However, the money to support the oligarchs, according to his statement, was found Again: Where is the logic? About top managers. they are really much less hard workers, but their ripe is another story. Why haven't measures been developed to stop the withdrawal of capital abroad? Or maybe the former Soviet republics fall off from us, because our living standards are low? Now about recycling - it's generally a shame.
                1. +6
                  4 May 2018 22: 27
                  Quote: Ivan58
                  Who was responsible for the failures in foreign policy: Georgia, Ukraine, now Armenia and Kazakhstan?

                  No need to ascribe to the current regime the merits of the Communists and their 70 years of anti-Russian national policy, the merits of the liberals under the EBN, when they distributed sovereignty as much as you take. Ukrainians ruled the USSR from Stalin to the collapse, blocked the Independent lands and people were subjugated, Bandera Kravchuk ruled, moreover from the USSR, then Kuchma with a booklet “Ukraine is not Russia”, then Bandera Yushchenko, then Yanukovych, who flirted with Bandera, created the right sector and crap one's pants, went to sit on two chairs, then Turchinov and Poroshenko. Who to negotiate with? How to negotiate? Give, but they are not enough. Or where? We have many couch diplomats, and how to deal with them. If Elbasy burned the SPRN station, he gave a corridor for a disarming strike against us by Tridents from the Indian Ocean. How to negotiate with him if this one is trying to sit on three chairs. Was it possible to negotiate with Gamsakhurdia or with Shevarnadze, who destroyed the Union? Or could it be negotiated with Saakashvillo? Now Pashinyan ...
                  Quote: Ivan58
                  However, the money to support the oligarchs, according to his statement, was found again

                  In Russia, there has long been no oligarchic system. And you all post this nonsense. The oligarchs had their own ministers and governors, bought fractions in the Duma to pass laws for themselves, had their own armies and special services. Now there is a strong Presidential power, an obedient Parliament and popular trust.
                  1. +5
                    4 May 2018 23: 15
                    Well, not the oligarchs, but the businessmen who robbed the people and the state. And if the parliament is obedient, why are the "May decrees" not implemented. And in January 18, Putin called on the government not to raise fuel prices. Result? About trust, it is such a thing, changeable. Our main misfortune is that there is no one to ask. Either there is no desire (the guarantor), or the guarantor does not have the opportunity, and the people just do not have it.
                    1. +2
                      5 May 2018 10: 02
                      Our pet-girl gets acquainted with a huckster on a Kruzak and for him he is like an oligarch. This is a clear concept, it really had a place to be with EBN, now it is a phenomenon as a striking example in Ukraine. It is the destruction of this system that is precisely Putin’s asset, the most influential Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky removed from power, took away property, such as Potanin and Veksel-berg (mountain of bills laughing ) Putin made companies top managers. In fact, nationalization also occurred, which the layman did not notice again. In the regions of the enterprise, some Muscovites bought greenbacks from bandits that they seized during dashing years, if they got into it, Vympel or Alpha came to the arrow. Bandiuk with green rushed to buy real estate, yachts in the West, open accounts, strategic objects are not sold there in the free market. Okay, goods, but billions of billions (up to half a trillion greens) shook the EU system and economy. And now the so-called export of capital in green papers and with zeros in computers, the true values ​​in the form of subsoil, factories, etc. remain in place. Here, the only way to attach to these values ​​is stocks, here’s the answer to why the Chinese who have gathered greenery really can’t exchange it for true values, at least the shares of normal companies. Only Africans still take greens.
                      Quote: Ivan58
                      About trust, it is such a thing, changeable.

                      You do not give your opinion, which was originally biased as an opinion of the people, the elections showed how it is, they are recognized even as enemies. There was an increase in salaries, so the increase in prices did not cause indignation. Who went out to protest? Fifty minors with bulk, expensive iPhones shone. All. If you are one of these, then admit that nobody will offend anyone, the services will punish extremists who talk anti-state speeches until they are isolated later.
                    2. 0
                      5 May 2018 15: 22
                      "businessmen - robbing the people and the state" - why so categorically ?! Or maybe honest entrepreneurs who have earned money for themselves, who have earned money for their employees, and who have honestly paid all taxes, do you allow this?
                      1. 0
                        6 May 2018 21: 50
                        Maybe there are some, I will not revenge everyone under one comb.
                  2. +5
                    4 May 2018 23: 23
                    A joke about prices. Ancient. Why is the price of gas rising? So world oil prices are rising. However, now oil prices are falling. So that state revenues did not fall, the excise tax was raised. And now, oil prices are stable. So inflation is. This ancient joke tells us that the government appointed by the President, to put it mildly, is incompetent. And you also need to work with your neighbors, and not give them a freebie.
                    1. +6
                      5 May 2018 00: 09
                      Quote: Ivan58
                      So that state revenues did not fall, the excise tax was raised.

                      Excise duty is a form of tax, state revenues are spent on state employees, and on state projects and on defense. What is the contradiction?
                      1. +1
                        5 May 2018 14: 31
                        A tax is an exemption from the "organism" of the country of an allegedly extra "fat", but if, in addition to the "fat," they start to "drink blood" and "cut off meat" - the organism will simply die. negative Defect managers from the government have already “milked” Russia to dryness and this is especially evident in large markets. By an avalanche-like decrease in population expenditures and the transition from an “average” category of goods to an “economy”, and often more and more “not goods” begin to buy (“red price”, “every day”, etc.).
                        I'm not talking about the "small business", about all sorts of hairdressers, salt flats, etc. - they die like flies. And still not inflated, but already relevant monstrous situation with defaults both on loans and on a communicator. No, we have not yet “caught up” with Ukraine, but are rapidly rolling in the same direction.
                        Note all that I have listed - there is no “desire” of the population to save, it is a “need” to save or the inability to pay !!
                        And what do we hear in response from the government - we came up with a new good tax for you !!! am
                      2. 0
                        6 May 2018 21: 47
                        Actually - this is a joke. And the contradiction is that oil prices rose more than 2 times. And nobody canceled the excise tax. About salary increases. Personally, I’ve been raised my salary by 100 rubles a year, since 2014. And I'm not from bulk. And about punitive measures, you should beware. You wrote about recycling, and it pretty smacks of fascism. And you do not need to frighten me with isolation - it is frightening, while we still have freedom of speech in the Constitution. Then I’ll answer right away about recycling. And you are not afraid to fall under it, or under the distribution of those who do not agree with recycling.
                    2. +2
                      6 May 2018 22: 12
                      There is a wonderful measure - punitive psychiatry. Moreover, many oppositionists are clearly not in order with their heads, their problem orientation also speaks of the disease. During the war, internal political struggle is inappropriate. And who leads it automatically becomes the 5th column and traitor. There is no hunger in the country, and this is already enough, during the EBN they shot on the streets, children fell in hungry faints, high-rise buildings were blown up, etc. Who remembers this time will never reel the regime. And whoever remembers this will fight the provocateurs to the end. There is an economic, sanctions war against us, an information war against us. And even if there are problems in the state, critics participate in the information war on the side of the enemy. I personally am not afraid to get under the hand, because I have nothing to hide from the state, I do not engage in anti-state propaganda and do not urge the regime to reel. Those who do this let them think with their heads and study about prison life, because it is likely that they will be prisoners with low social status.
                      1. 0
                        6 May 2018 23: 09
                        Those. in your opinion it is impossible to criticize - immediately an enemy of the people. And to call for the disposal of those who disagree is a patriot. The plot is famously twisted.
                    3. 0
                      7 May 2018 01: 54
                      There is a Criminal Code, there it is written about CRIMES AGAINST THE BASIS OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM AND SECURITY OF THE STATE. Public calls for extremism, etc. are also discussed. One can be dissenting, but keep quiet in the media, the blogosphere, etc. Moreover, no action is taken. And what I do not like, go ahead to the polls, at least for Sobchak, at least for Suraikin. And if the majority of the people made a choice, then obey and shut up, do not like it, you can go into exile. I repeat, since there is an information war, the persons helping in this enemy - conscious or unconscious - are enemies or traitors. The state and ethnic group can and must defend themselves within the framework of the law. The utilization of extremists is still underway ... with the detention and suppression of unlawful acts, the execution has been canceled. For chatter, of course, correctional facilities, and to whom medical treatment, are quite sufficient. In short, do not break the law and there will be no problems.
                      1. 0
                        8 May 2018 15: 32
                        You, sir demagogue, from my comments choose what you like to answer and do not answer in essence. FOR THIS HONOR I HAVE,
              4. +2
                4 May 2018 23: 07
                Yes, yes, everything is just very good. Agricultural holdings are also somebody’s, and there are many grandmothers from the budget, but without a budget they are dropping out and often falling apart ... and there people often pay a minimum wage and all is well.
                Yes, and the price of gas is not a contribution to victory, the contribution to victory will be the order of power in the field, otherwise many such honest people have been grubbing for 20 years .... and gas is at least something for medicine and pensioners for them same account ....
                1. +6
                  4 May 2018 23: 16
                  The agricultural holdings, in addition to creating them, received credit benefits and they were assigned fuel and lubricants (at your expense), bought agricultural machinery and equipment, which are expensive, pedigree cattle and seed. They brought in specialists with decent salaries and housing. Investors received tax breaks, so Borya Moiseyev invested his loot in agricultural production. And here it is an indisputable result, whether you like it or not. And at least you wouldn’t write something nasty. There is a first place in the export of wheat, although the USSR, with a breadbasket and virgin soil, profiled the gold of the party on the purchase of wheat and where, in the USA. Everything else is from the evil one.
              5. +2
                5 May 2018 09: 26
                You’ve got excited about agricultural holdings, by the will of fate I’m working in such an “agricultural holding” now, the situation is deplorable, the majority have been created for trading land and receiving state subsidies, MTF eke out a miserable existence, they are being closed down as they need to sell land, workers do not receive a 4-month salary. The situation was better in small farms, but they are crushed by "agricultural holdings." Watch less bravura reports on TV. The policy is the same as with networks, spread rot small and medium-sized businesses that really engaged in agriculture and create giants of outbid and land merchants.
                1. +2
                  5 May 2018 10: 33
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Watch less bravura reports on TV.

                  I, as a citizen who is not connected with the agricultural industry, do not care how they achieved the result. They have become leaders in wheat exports, have achieved food safety and enough. Your lousy economy worries me a little, sort it out yourself, and your words raise doubts about who works, that person does not have time to chat, but you have enough. Also, as a citizen, I don’t care how much was stolen during the construction of a spaceport or bridge, and even more so, how much they stole when building a nuclear submarine. The main thing is that the state task be solved, the main thing is that the country's security be ensured. And you count shekels there, etc. I understand the economy more than a few, well, I had to do a lot of things during the service, but I don’t give a damn about the costs, the consequence, let them work their bread.
            2. +5
              4 May 2018 20: 57
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Hrych, and to universal equality and brotherhood - far away? Well, or ask a simpler question, when will gasoline prices be lower than those of an adversary ??? Or on diesel fuel of "deep" processing - from which the "stake" technique rises ??? request
              And thanks for the Planetarium! Yes I’ll definitely take a look at the small ones! Yes

              Sorry to interfere, but for the sake of interest, see how many refineries are currently under reconstruction, and who they bought projects from, plus their native Belarus, pushing gasoline from Russian oil abroad. Plus, in the summer in Russia there is always a wait-and-see period, hi
            3. +4
              5 May 2018 00: 25
              Which adversary has cheaper gas? And where do you get the tanning bed, what is the "stake technique"?
              Probably in the nearest collective farm plums with mining knead?
          2. +15
            4 May 2018 20: 12
            numbers too.
            . Russia is the world leader in grain production = 132 million tons !!!
            USA - 420 million tons, China - 360 million tons, India - 277 million tons. Urya !!! The leader is intended !!!

            2. Aeroflot - the most powerful airline in the world in 2017 !!!
            Aeroflot - 26 million passengers and 168 aircraft.
            For comparison:
            American Airlines - 201 million passengers and 1269 aircraft.
            Emirates - 52 million passengers and 251 aircraft.
            Well there are many. Aeroflot takes an honorable 23 (!) Place in the world.

            3. 1,5 million cars!
            We will not even compare with China or the United States. Brazil (ta dam!) - 2,6 million

            Well, about the most painful
            3. Open 170 schools!

            In total, there are 44 thousand schools in Russia (there were 69700 in the RSFSR). According to Kommersant’s data, up to 2018, 3639 schools and kindergartens are planned to be closed in Russian villages. So how much was built there? 170? Oh well.

            Nuclear-powered icebreaker Siberia put into operation presumably 2021 g
            1. +20
              4 May 2018 20: 51
              Quote: Gardamir
              USA - 420 million tons,

              Of these, 384 million tons. - CORN! laughing Continue reading "Kommersant", he is in the subject for you.
              I see no reason to check the remaining numbers. I suspect the same bullshit. smile
            2. +8
              4 May 2018 21: 02
              Quote: Gardamir
              numbers too

            3. +5
              4 May 2018 21: 12
              Quote: Gardamir
              numbers too.
              . Russia is the world leader in grain production = 132 million tons !!!
              USA - 420 million tons, China - 360 million tons, India - 277 million tons. Urya !!! The leader is intended !!!

              2. Aeroflot - the most powerful airline in the world in 2017 !!!
              Aeroflot - 26 million passengers and 168 aircraft.
              For comparison:
              American Airlines - 201 million passengers and 1269 aircraft.
              Emirates - 52 million passengers and 251 aircraft.
              Well there are many. Aeroflot takes an honorable 23 (!) Place in the world.

              3. 1,5 million cars!
              We will not even compare with China or the United States. Brazil (ta dam!) - 2,6 million

              Well, about the most painful
              3. Open 170 schools!

              In total, there are 44 thousand schools in Russia (there were 69700 in the RSFSR). According to Kommersant’s data, up to 2018, 3639 schools and kindergartens are planned to be closed in Russian villages. So how much was built there? 170? Oh well.

              Nuclear-powered icebreaker Siberia put into operation presumably 2021 g

              http://pubdocs.worldbank.org/en/74343150792782250
              5 / CMO-October-2017-Full-Report.pdf
              Here for some reason you do not agree with you request
              1. +4
                4 May 2018 21: 20
                Quote: FenH
                Here for some reason you do not agree with you

                1. +4
                  4 May 2018 21: 24
                  Quote: hrych
                  Quote: FenH
                  Here for some reason you do not agree with you


                  I gave a link to the mosquito about the grain hi And I myself, to be honest, are more impressed by QATAR AIRWAYS; Aeroflot is still far from them hi
          3. +10
            4 May 2018 21: 19
            Quote: hrych
            Quote: Hunter 2
            Already a plus!



            Yeah, and caught up with Gabon in terms of per capita income, what's the use of our oligarchs getting richer when people get poorer?
            1. +7
              4 May 2018 21: 27
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: hrych
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Already a plus!



              Yeah, and caught up with Gabon in terms of per capita income, what's the use of our oligarchs getting richer when people get poorer?

              Sorry, but how many expats are working on Russian projects? From Turkey or Serbia, plus the CIS, or our people have the EMELA complex so that it falls into our mouths, and we are at home on the stove?
              1. +11
                4 May 2018 21: 45
                Quote: FenH
                Sorry, but how many expats are working on Russian projects? From Turkey or Serbia, plus the CIS, or our people have the EMELA complex so that it falls into our mouths, and we are at home on the stove?

                What does the expat have to do with it? What does emelya have to do with it? wassat Our great-grandfathers, grandfathers fought and died for the Motherland, and Motherland is now in the hands of a narrow handful of people who have taken possession of all the country's natural resources, and grandmothers do not know where to find money for medicine and utilities ..
                1. +4
                  4 May 2018 22: 54
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: FenH
                  Sorry, but how many expats are working on Russian projects? From Turkey or Serbia, plus the CIS, or our people have the EMELA complex so that it falls into our mouths, and we are at home on the stove?

                  What does the expat have to do with it? What does emelya have to do with it? wassat For our motherland, our great-grandfathers, grandfathers fought and died

                  For their honor and praise !!! What do you mean? What have you achieved? Or like that fly, on the horns of a bull: -WE PHOHALY wassat
                  And children and grandchildren must support grandfathers and grandmothers, but it turns out that they take money from the pension on the Internet to greatly resent the distress of pensioners laughing
          4. +8
            4 May 2018 23: 02
            For example, I’m not but, but I want to inform you that without American reagents, you will not be able to determine the blood group in your clinic for example. Look at our imports from the USA (and other countries) and the value of this table is slightly leveled (to put it mildly). Technology is dumb ... in everything. And do not talk about a few positive examples. There is nothing in the sense of CONVEYOR in scale and volume. And so yes, life has become easier, life has become more fun .. question to whom? If to Friends, then yes, and then they get in line from the budget for help, but they don’t put their own from offshore, but why, when you can, and so ... well, if in exchange for collapsed shares ...
          5. +2
            5 May 2018 10: 05
            Only on the Khokhlyat sites, do not post this picture - otherwise, the Ukrainians will break the template. All kinds of experts had already predicted that Russia was about to fall apart ...
            1. +1
              5 May 2018 10: 42
              We are still ripped to shreds by Obama, nowhere to tear apart wassat
          6. 0
            6 May 2018 12: 59
            Quote: hrych
            Already a plus!

            Grunt - when you post pictures, at least check their contents. 153 civilian airliners - what's this? For 1.5 million cars - a "screwdriver" counted? 380 feldsher-midwifery centers - but is it nothing that most of them replaced closed full-size hospitals? When will you move from a "treshka" to a small family, congratulate you too on a housewarming?
      2. +6
        4 May 2018 19: 49
        Quote: BZTM
        Nothing will break off from us, believe me.

        Why so? The army is under siege at the adversary. Rosneft has a controlling stake, but the shareholders have more than half, who will lead the army? Governor of Rosneft hi
      3. +5
        4 May 2018 20: 13
        how does it not break off? gas will go up
        1. +7
          4 May 2018 20: 21
          good Of course, the elections have passed ..... laughing laughing laughing We (the oil and gas producing region, for a minute, if that) have ALREADY risen in price feel .
          1. +4
            4 May 2018 20: 37
            Quote: BZTM
            Already risen in price

            And when did he get cheaper? Only a few cents.
            1. +13
              4 May 2018 20: 42
              Good evening, Volodya! hi laughing
              1. +7
                4 May 2018 20: 55
                I’m healthy. Come on ... Von Gaidar and Chubais in 90 throttled sober with gas prices. At one point, the price of oil was raised six times.
      4. +4
        4 May 2018 20: 15
        Quote: BZTM
        Nothing will break off from us, believe me ...

        Rosneft’s shares were also broken off from us, it’s not known how it turned out to be in Switzerland (can you quickly look at who bought the real estate there?), And dividends, and budget replenishment. Oblomovism is a Russian phenomenon, even in such an interpretation ... request
      5. +2
        4 May 2018 21: 03
        You don’t need anything, but to us, the shareholders, how else it breaks off.
  2. +3
    4 May 2018 19: 33
    Here So - it is clear! Rosneft - in my opinion, the property of Russia, but for the Qataris and Swiss, I deeply ... do not care! The Chinese are doubly! belay
    1. +14
      4 May 2018 19: 42
      Rosneft - in my opinion, the property of Russia
      Oh oh ... Forced to correct, namesake, that's whose property, unfortunately ...
      Not ours with you ... hi
      1. +17
        4 May 2018 19: 46
        Oh well. Do not Cry.
        There will be a holiday on your street. Wait Olesha Navalny will give out to all crooks and thieves!
        And then real democracy will finally come, and every pensioner will receive an iPhone for free.
        The main thing is to believe.
        1. +16
          4 May 2018 19: 56
          Quote: Mestny
          Oh well. Do not Cry.
          There will be a holiday on your street. Wait Olesha Navalny will give out to all crooks and thieves!
          And then real democracy will finally come, and every pensioner will receive an iPhone for free.
          The main thing is to believe.

          It has always amazed me how famously figures like you write People, well, let's just say that - who do not quite agree with the Authority in the category of “liberals” and “heaped”! What are you, in my opinion - an unhealthy person ??? Yes It’s deep for me .... Everything is fine with me! Bulk - I despise sincerely, like people like you! And you continue - to shout Uraaaaa! After all, there’s nothing more - they’re not capable !!! laughing
        2. +6
          4 May 2018 20: 22
          Quote: Mestny
          There will be a holiday on your street. Wait Olesha Navalny will give out to all crooks and thieves!

          You ask what happened to those who until 1917 sat on the neck of the people ... belay Mr. Chubais, being the head of RAO UES, put a lot of lanterns in Russia ... lol And for crooks and thieves, then they have one purpose:
        3. +3
          4 May 2018 21: 01
          Quote: Mestny
          and every pensioner will receive an iPhone for free.

          And what for is it needed?
      2. +8
        4 May 2018 21: 12
        But what difference does it make, sadly whose property it is in such an economy? Be there all Sechins, at least all Fayzals. Money that the first, that the second Russia will not see, and will receive only crumbs of tax deductions and jobs. Maybe someone warms the soul that he works for the Secrets, and not for Alsuvaidi, although, by and large, there is no difference between them.
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        2. Land and other natural resources may be in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership.
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        The problem is actually here
  3. +8
    4 May 2018 19: 49
    In how. The Chinese refused to buy it for another six months, they said that there was no money and advised them to stay, of course. And now they, as it turned out, were refused. And this couple bought, taking a loan from VTB. They also had no catastrophic money. So it’s not even very clear who bought what.
    Only one thing is clear - gasoline will rise in price.
  4. +3
    4 May 2018 19: 51
    What is not done is all for the better smile and if they would have sold here they would have written "it is good that our strategic ally China is buying up the assets of our companies!"
    1. +3
      4 May 2018 20: 32
      We do not have economic strategists ... request There was one - Gaidar, but he died, poor fellow. So the people did not fully experience their shock therapy. Shokonul, but not painful. Another strategist is licking us all - Chernomyrdin. He was such a good guy. I could not connect two words, but - a strategist. The president, in comparison, was thinner. And even then a pair: goose and loon. One did not think of "celery", the other thought, but he couldn’t say like a dog. Now they want to call the icebreaker "Viktor Chernomyrdin" ... lol If “Lenin” worked for 30 years, then this one, like Stepanych, would ice the ice for a year and a half and Ukraine ...
      In general, this is strange, well, just strange. I can’t do it again, I don’t know and don’t want it. This does not mean that no one is allowed. Well, probably, someone, maybe, is needed, someone to enter, someone to withdraw ...
  5. +9
    4 May 2018 20: 13
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Alexey, you are wrong! Yes So at least they will not raise the retirement age! good Already a plus! laughing wink

    Raise, do not even doubt it. Even the price of oil will not help. The decision on the retirement age is actually made, and quite a while ago. They just tried not to exaggerate this topic in the media, since the presidential election was coming. And now everything is now possible. Well, by the fall, expect a present from the good king.
  6. +7
    4 May 2018 20: 21
    As these stocks were "muddy" and quickly sold, the next "dregs" are now going on!
  7. +5
    4 May 2018 21: 52
    Quote: Gardamir
    numbers too.
    . Russia is the world leader in grain production = 132 million tons !!!
    USA - 420 million tons, China - 360 million tons, India - 277 million tons. Urya !!! The leader is intended !!!

    2. Aeroflot - the most powerful airline in the world in 2017 !!!
    Aeroflot - 26 million passengers and 168 aircraft.
    For comparison:
    American Airlines - 201 million passengers and 1269 aircraft.
    Emirates - 52 million passengers and 251 aircraft.
    Well there are many. Aeroflot takes an honorable 23 (!) Place in the world.

    3. 1,5 million cars!
    We will not even compare with China or the United States. Brazil (ta dam!) - 2,6 million

    Well, about the most painful
    3. Open 170 schools!

    In total, there are 44 thousand schools in Russia (there were 69700 in the RSFSR). According to Kommersant’s data, up to 2018, 3639 schools and kindergartens are planned to be closed in Russian villages. So how much was built there? 170? Oh well.

    Nuclear-powered icebreaker Siberia put into operation presumably 2021 g

    Read less assholes less. And then, as if not to slide down yourself ... or not Osko ... well, you understand.
    Meanwhile, the real facts, and not stuffing diarrhea:
    “Russia has become a world leader in export sales of wheat, according to a report from the US Department of Agriculture. It was published on Friday, June 10th. Russian exports at this date are estimated at 24,5 million tons of wheat, Canada - 22,5 million tons, the United States - 21,09 million tons. In total, grain exports from July 1, 2015 to June 8, 2016 increased by 12,3, 33,04% to 2016 million tons, follows from the data of the Russian Ministry of Agriculture ”(https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/XNUMX/
    06/14/645185-russiya-eksporter-pshenitsi)
    Is the difference between the words “production” and “export” clear to you? Moreover, in the Russian media we are talking about production and export wheat. Indeed, in 2016 Russia was ahead of the United States in this indicator, and not in terms of grain production in general, which includes corn, soybeans, rice, etc. (http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QC/visualize
    )


    Give yourself the trouble to at least enter a phrase into a search engine before broadcasting someone's slobbering yelps.
    1. +7
      4 May 2018 22: 14
      And for me, so all export delights hiccup already for our children, it hurts to think about grandchildren-great-grandchildren.
      We kill Mother Earth, oil, gas and other gifts of the Earth are profound for nothing, and even in the holey pockets of the oligarchs (which, moreover, the good West is already preparing for plucking), and we will have to pay taxes that will remain after optimization, and the bulk in offshore will disappear in any form.
      The property is ours, GAZPROM resembles a madman scattering multibillion-dollar pipelines without clear agreements with buyers from Europe and China. And all at the expense of the people. Export of raw materials and energy resources is necessary for the country only for the development of the country, no more.
      1. +4
        4 May 2018 23: 26
        Tell us what to do, and we will choose you as president! hi
        1. +1
          5 May 2018 08: 51
          Quote: dr.star75
          Tell us what to do, and we will choose you as president! hi

          Transplant all who can not report for their first million. With confiscation. good
          1. 0
            5 May 2018 09: 02
            Quote: Ecilop
            Transplant all who can not report for their first million

            I propose to consider this a maximum program.
            The “minimum” program is to excommunicate the alligarhoff from power (after which they, in fact, are no longer alligarchs), and force them to benefit the country and society - IMHO, is being successfully implemented.
      2. +1
        5 May 2018 15: 03
        How would you censorfully answer: 100 years ago, they thought and sighed, “Is coal going to end and what will we burn diamonds in the furnaces?”, And then BAC and coal are already and as if not the most important for Civilization, first oil, then uranium, now gas. The devil knows what will happen even after some 50 years. But here's another example - about 40 years ago, there were good “fat prices” for copper, but at that time the USSR was already falling apart, then Russia sold many of its deposits to competitors and they simply did not develop them. It seems - URA copper remained in the land of Russia, only now the demand for copper has fallen sharply and it turned out to be much more than mankind can get, and Western competitors then cut down the dibs at high prices and now they are reorienting from incomes to new industries, they live well, and we - with ore in the ground and without dough. ((
        Clamping and “only for sebe” is possible to what no one except you has - for example, rare-earth metals or the same Titanium. This really needs to be mined and used only at home tongue . And if exported only for a lot of money and in the form of final products. good
        He wrote many times - to cut off titanium supplies to the West, to buy back (and we don’t have to lie here that the government does not have money for it, there is a surplus of 6 trillion belay ), stacked in piles and poured with cement (so that saboteurs would not be set on fire). Tea is not a sausage - it will not go bad. bully good
  8. +3
    4 May 2018 22: 07
    Do you need such a cow yourself? Qatari and Swiss will not share Rosneft with China

    And how can I comment without mat, gentlemen in the Kremlin and the Duma?
    1. +5
      4 May 2018 22: 20
      Quote: NordUral
      And how can I comment without mat, gentlemen in the Kremlin and the Duma?

      Comment with a mat, you, like, are allowed wink
      And - yes ... what are you going to comment on, with your complete ignorance of the subject of commenting?
  9. +2
    4 May 2018 22: 28
    who is now selling shares in energy companies. Energy companies provide profitable and sustainable growth in these areas of business and the appropriation of economic rents inaccessible to competitors.
  10. +3
    4 May 2018 22: 45
    The deal with the Chinese, and not with China, did not take place for a simple reason: in China, he is under investigation on charges of economic crimes.
  11. +5
    4 May 2018 23: 15
    Quote: Hunter 2
    I - pay taxes, and everything else ... create jobs, albeit not much ... but at least something. I love my homeland!

    And how, very generously pay people at these your workplaces to live well, freely, on a grand scale? Or so, capitalistically, in your pocket, and what remains - in the sn fund? Some elusive smell is floating in the air, I won’t say that the aroma. Scream that somebody must take care of the Universal Good (tm), and you will live in your little capitalism, forming a blessing for yourself. So, dear, it does not happen. These are all: the vile oligarchs, Big Scary Brother, Evil Putin and many others are in the same reality, forced to act within the same paradigm. Form a blessing under the same conditions.

    Not on the couch, but on an adult ... And he stood behind her ...

    Come on? The rest lay. All.

    And Putin is Tauride for Me
    Horseradish, put on the opinions of others

    It can be seen. If it weren’t for the people whom Putin is now personifying, Russia would have turned into a fragmented education, and you, dear, would most likely have been in a damp country, not living up to your pre-retirement age, in which you live so well.

    "And what to do ??" - You ask after five minutes of hatred (and maybe goodness and enlightenment, fine). What is possible. But do it all the time. We have to go a very difficult way: by corruption, drug addiction, the decline of educational programs, the ruin of certain types of industry, impudent bureaucracy, shortcomings and deficits of ideology and people's fatigue, by the Golden Calf. But you have to go. Personally, I believe we can.
  12. +1
    4 May 2018 23: 21
    kemska volost? Yes, let them take what is already there. handing out damn bowels to the world, how many countries already own Rosneft ?. there would be no help to their population !!!
    1. 0
      5 May 2018 05: 42
      Off topic - where did you serve, colleague?
      I - military unit 23452, May 86 - November 88. HRC TsUS YES.
      1. 0
        5 May 2018 11: 14
        Moscow Region RAOS PRC-1 132 CMS Air Force Comet
  13. +2
    4 May 2018 23: 30
    Quote: Hunter 2
    For the Caucasus, I paid with blood ... in your opinion - should I continue with gasoline, diesel fuel and utilities? This is when I managed to owe so much ??? belay
    Deripaska, Abramovich, Prokhorov, Usmanov, Potanin and others ... should not, but I owe it ??? sad Amazing thinking !!!
    Income tax - tie to income, Maybe - let me out of debt!

    Well, that's all.
    Quote: A & B Strugatsky, "The Ugly Swans"
    Everyone claims that humanity is heading for the abyss, but they cannot prove anything. And in fact it always turns out that all this philosophical pessimism is the result of family turmoil or lack of banknotes ...

    All the rest is just a consequence of the above quote.
    Boo-woo request
  14. 0
    5 May 2018 00: 10
    Now with new technologies it is possible to effectively conduct a planned economy that fools swear by praising the market because it can parasitize
  15. 0
    5 May 2018 00: 14
    Quote: Mentat
    We have to go a very difficult way: by corruption, drug addiction, the decline of educational programs, the ruin of certain types of industry, impudent bureaucracy, shortcomings and deficits of ideology and people's fatigue, by the Golden Calf. But you have to go. Personally, I believe we can.

    Try to recall Chernomyrdin, his aphorisms from the 90s "..wanted the best, but it turned out as always"
    Unfortunately, Russia, having chosen the worst way of development from the existing ones, is taking a firm step through all the vices that you have listed, and not as best, but as always. Only a blind man can not see it, he cannot understand a fool. After all, the Communists believed, people fooled, but could not pass by the Golden Calf. Well, how it all ended is known.
    Despite Putin’s beautiful words, the country's future is vague and uncertain. With his departure from power, and this will happen over time, the continuity of the political and economic course is not obvious. And that is to say the least.
    And you believe .. Remember the words from the song of the distant 60s "..the astronauts and dreamers promise that Mars will bloom apple trees .." ?
    Or here's another.
    Quotes from N.S. Khrushchev. 22 Congress of the CPSU, 1961, "The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism!" “Our goals are clear, tasks are defined, for work, comrades!”
    Then they also believed ...
    1. +3
      5 May 2018 00: 39
      You look like a mess in your head. Go to bed. The morning is wiser than the evening
  16. 0
    5 May 2018 01: 14
    Quote: dr.star75
    You look like a mess in your head. Go to bed. The morning is wiser than the evening

    You think too stereotyped, because of which porridge seems to be around you.
  17. 0
    5 May 2018 02: 41
    Quote: NOC-VVS
    kemska volost? Yes, let them take what is already there. handing out damn bowels to the world, how many countries already own Rosneft ?. there would be no help to their population !!!

    Specifically to you?
  18. 0
    5 May 2018 08: 49
    We recall the experience of Comrade Stalin. All disagreeing and doubting, shoot. Family members repressed. Those who remain alive will feel happy and grateful. winked
  19. +2
    5 May 2018 09: 43
    Kent0001,
    Wishing to die is not visible. But Wishlist must be paid - at whose expense? Oligarchs, in your understanding - units and living money they have a minuscule.
  20. 0
    5 May 2018 13: 11
    Nothing personal, just business.
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