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War for water and food - a reality? Scary FAO stats

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The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), whose main task is the fight against hunger in the world, publishes depressing statistics. Every year in the world the percentage of soils that are no longer suitable for agriculture is growing. According to the FAO, today due to erosion, salinization, leaching of organic matter, acidification and a number of other reasons, about a third of all soils are no longer included in agricultural circulation.


War for water and food - a reality? Scary FAO stats


Given the fact that 1 centimeter thick takes a thousand years to form the upper layer of soil by nature, reducing the area of ​​soil suitable for agricultural activity with frightening intensity threatens the existence, without exaggeration, of billions of people on Earth.

According to FAO forecasts, already in 2050, the population of our planet will pass over the line in 9 billion people. To date, over 1 billions of Earth’s inhabitants face hunger daily. After 30, years of hunger and systematic malnutrition will suffer up to 35% of the world's inhabitants. First of all, we are talking about the regions of Central and South Asia and Africa. The agricultural resources of Europe and North America are being actively depleted, including due to the constant use of chemically active substances designed to increase the yield of certain crops, to destroy insects.

Under such conditions, predictions about future wars are not for oil, but for water and food are not “heresies” of science fiction, but those that are close enough to objective reality.

The agricultural census in Russia, conducted in 2016, also revealed a downward trend in agricultural land. If in 2006, the area of ​​such lands in the RF was 450,6 million hectares, in 2016 it was reduced by more than 100 million hectares. At the same time, the sown area increased from 74,8 million hectares to 79,2 million hectares. On 107 thousand hectares over the years 10 reduced the area of ​​perennial fruit plantations (orchards). In the Russian case, many lands were artificially removed from agricultural use — for example, reissuing for construction, the creation of semi-ecological landfills.

FAO proposes to address the problem of soil degradation by implementing a land management program. FAO also proposes a ban on the use of harmful methods of farming, as well as to regulate the use of antibiotics in the agricultural sector.

Is Russia capable of responding to new challenges that have been expressed in the UN food organization? And another question: can Russia remain a supplier of environmentally friendly agricultural products to both the international and domestic markets?
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  1. tasha
    tasha 4 May 2018 17: 25
    +19
    In the Russian case, many lands were artificially withdrawn from agricultural circulation - for example, re-registration for development, the creation of semi-spontaneous landfills.

    A lot of land is simply abandoned and overgrown. Those. Russia is not an example of soil degradation.

    And yet - some may be thrown correctly. Because part of the land fell under the "development of virgin lands" and required serious care and artificial irrigation.
    1. Hire
      Hire 4 May 2018 17: 26
      +20
      Still, I do not get tired of marveling at God's conduct! Soils are depleted, but on the contrary, we have rested due to perestroika. Now again, you can plant.
      1. hrych
        hrych 4 May 2018 17: 34
        +43
        Quote: Hire
        Now again, you can plant.

        Plant as much as possible laughing
        1. Hire
          Hire 4 May 2018 17: 35
          +11
          Quote: hrych
          Plant as much as possible

          recourse Yes-ah ... It somehow ambiguously happened ...
        2. Labrador
          Labrador 4 May 2018 19: 23
          +6
          But Ksyushad says that the army is not needed ... Others whine, saying that we grow so much grain - we do not need so much.
          Soon, the campaign, the grain will again become a gold resource, which will have to be protected more than ever.
          1. hrych
            hrych 4 May 2018 19: 32
            +18
            Quote: Labrador
            But Ksyushad says that the army is not needed ...

      2. SSR
        SSR 4 May 2018 18: 11
        +3
        Quote: Hire
        Still, I do not get tired of marveling at God's conduct! Soils are depleted, but on the contrary, we have rested due to perestroika. Now again, you can plant.

        In fact, in the first place, the lands where GMOs are sown are burned out, first the yields are high and then the lands burn out
        First of all, we are talking about the regions of Central and South Asia, Africa. The agricultural resources of Europe and North America are being actively depleted, including due to the constant use of chemically active substances designed to increase the yield of certain crops,

        In India, too, there is a problem.
        1. Rostovchanin
          Rostovchanin 4 May 2018 19: 00
          +1
          Today I just looked at the population of China and India, the milestone of 1,4 India will overcome the campaign earlier ...
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        2. svd-xnumx
          svd-xnumx 4 May 2018 22: 20
          +3
          In fact, in the first place, the lands where GMOs are sown are burned out, first the yields are high and then the lands burn out
          Sunflower is still draining the land, it needs a competent crop rotation, and "businessmen from the land" want to make a profit here and now.
          1. SSR
            SSR 5 May 2018 08: 24
            0
            Quote: svd-xnumx
            In fact, in the first place, the lands where GMOs are sown are burned out, first the yields are high and then the lands burn out
            Sunflower is still draining the land, it needs a competent crop rotation, and "businessmen from the land" want to make a profit here and now.

            Exhaustion is yes, there is also
            Quote: Pivot
            The land does not burn out from GMOs but because crop rotation is not respected, wheat has been grown in Kansas for almost 30 years, respectively

            Earth burns out of chemistry, sowing wheat without chemistry for 30 years is unreal!
            PS.
            For agronomists, it's like ..... a sunflower. - legumes, wheat - flax, etc. There is a whole range of measures.
        3. Pivot
          Pivot 4 May 2018 22: 33
          +3
          The land does not burn out from GMOs but because crop rotation is not respected, wheat has been grown in Kansas for almost 30 years, respectively, this crop takes the same nutrients at the same depth of the root system, and if wheat is alternated with rapeseed, corn, sorghum or peas would be great. But the territory of Kansas is favorable for cereals, it rains during the first growing season and during the spike, and then dry land is therefore a low risk of crop disease and therefore only wheat is grown and genes are planted so that plant parasites or microorganisms do not suppress the crop plant. The second negative factor is irrigation systems on open soils, the soil is very clogged and salted because the rain water is distilled, and river or, God forbid, from the well, with salts.
      3. taiga2018
        taiga2018 4 May 2018 18: 19
        0
        Quote: Hire
        Now again, you can plant.

        if only there would be someone, so that at least the state would not hinder this one ...
      4. RedKors1953
        RedKors1953 4 May 2018 20: 09
        +1
        Victor. Specify. Who! Or maybe something.
        1. Hire
          Hire 4 May 2018 20: 13
          +7
          Quote: RedKors1953
          Victor. Specify. Who! Or maybe something.

          All who need to be imprisoned; all you need to sow! smile
      5. RUSS
        RUSS 5 May 2018 08: 49
        0
        Quote: Hire
        Still, I do not get tired of marveling at God's conduct! Soils are depleted, but on the contrary, we have rested due to perestroika. Now again, you can plant.

        Where it is possible to plant, we have a lot of land, but in the majority it is in the zone of risky agriculture.
        1. Awaz
          Awaz 5 May 2018 11: 51
          0
          I live in the Territory of eternal tomatoes (Kirov region) Next to my house is the Red October collective farm where durum wheat is grown at 40 centners per ha. There is another row nearby, also with the same crops. My relatives lived there before and I know that in Soviet times they had fields with record crops of 70 centners per ha
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 8 May 2018 22: 16
            0
            A one-time increase per hectare will not cancel climate problems and the duration of the harvest. So look at the annual growth, not a one-off ....
      6. venik
        venik 5 May 2018 14: 10
        +1
        Quote: Hire
        Now again, you can plant.

        =======
        I agree!!! But here is just ONE question: WHOM "plant"???
        1. ProkletyiPirat
          ProkletyiPirat 8 May 2018 22: 17
          0
          Quote: venik
          WHO to "plant" ???

          This is a stupid question, the answer is always the same "All except me. "
    2. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 4 May 2018 17: 52
      0
      up to 35% of the world's inhabitants will suffer from hunger and systematic malnutrition

      and how many percent of the population will suffer from overeating? and now suffers a lot ....
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 4 May 2018 18: 52
        0
        It somehow becomes uncomfortable from such forecasts. And more recently, we were choked with delight and were broadcast about the blessed Europe and America. About the huge harvests and incredible achievements of agricultural chemistry and genetic engineering. Or did it all turn out to be a trick?
        1. tasha
          tasha 4 May 2018 18: 56
          +2
          It does not interfere. All these achievements of agrochemistry and genetic engineering arise from the need to grow more in the same (and sometimes smaller) areas. Earth is no longer getting! Well, also reduce labor costs ...
        2. RedKors1953
          RedKors1953 4 May 2018 20: 29
          +17
          Dmitry. We were told a lot about what, about 30 varieties of sausage, about Pepsi Shvepsi and we were led. I don’t know what year of birth you are. And I remember the sausage shop you smell 200 meters away. Real soda from a vending machine syrup. Of course there was a shortage. I don’t argue. But that real product is better than this one.
        3. Pivot
          Pivot 4 May 2018 22: 39
          +1
          Everything is fine, just officials at the UN need to eat and show their work, you can’t imagine how the soil is self-healing; leave the poorest field for 10 years and sow as if nothing had happened.
      2. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 4 May 2018 22: 25
        +3
        up to 35% of the world's inhabitants will suffer from hunger and systematic malnutrition
        and how many percent of the population will suffer from overeating? and now suffers a lot ....
        I recently heard from a zombie that about a third of the world's food is destroyed and thrown away as an overdue period. As always, the poor are starving and the rich are dumped in the landfill.
    3. RosUkrBel
      RosUkrBel 5 May 2018 09: 11
      0
      "A lot of land is simply abandoned and overgrown. That is, Russia is not an example of soil degradation." Living in the Tver region, you see how agricultural land is overgrown. I mow seven hectares of cattle hay, the remaining hundreds or thousands of hectares become worthless!
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 5 May 2018 11: 24
        0
        Quote: RosUkrBel
        "A lot of land is simply abandoned and overgrown. That is, Russia is not an example of soil degradation." Living in the Tver region, you see how agricultural land is overgrown. I mow seven hectares of cattle hay, the remaining hundreds or thousands of hectares become worthless!

        Agriculture is costly and risky in the Tver region, the soil is poorer than in the black earth, the weather is colder, and recently in winter, temperature swings have already led to freezing of winter crops due to lack of snow cover
    4. iouris
      iouris 5 May 2018 12: 57
      0
      Quote: tasha
      Russia is not an example of soil degradation.

      The task of feeding and drinking China has not been canceled, China is a production workshop. It may very well be that in the “Russian case” (the former USSR), the territory is being cleared for a specific project. Agriculture in these latitudes and natural conditions with a low population is uncompetitive, but an increase in consumption in the Chinese market can change this situation. It will only be necessary to deliver equipment and personnel.
    5. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 8 May 2018 22: 21
      0
      Quote: tasha
      A lot of land is just abandoned and overgrown

      In general, this is a misconception, they just let the soil rest. This is especially noticeable in the south where there are many unused fields. Yes, and in the Russian Federation, as in the whole world, there is a problem with cleaning water from impurities and accumulating these impurities on arable land.
      1. tasha
        tasha 9 May 2018 04: 29
        0
        In general, this is a misconception, they just let the soil rest.

        My opinion is based on personal observations of a couple of former state farms and the results of the 2016 census of the year:

        Most of the land (50,7 million hectares) not taken into account in the census is listed in the Federal Register for agricultural producers that could not be found. About 30 million ha are not assigned to anyone at all. The monitoring authors note that in 1990, the area of ​​ownerless land was only 8,3 million ha.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 4 May 2018 17: 26
    +10
    There is such a tendency. In particular, we have in the Kuban .. From the soil everything! And then at least the grass does not grow. Getting a quick profit.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2018 17: 27
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      There is such a tendency. In particular, we have in the Kuban .. From the soil everything! And then at least the grass does not grow. Getting a quick profit.


      Dima .. and where are you from zema ..
      1. 210ox
        210ox 4 May 2018 17: 30
        +7
        Krasnodar Territory. White Clay. hi Although my small homeland is Smolensk.
        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: 210ox
        There is such a tendency. In particular, we have in the Kuban .. From the soil everything! And then at least the grass does not grow. Getting a quick profit.


        Dima .. and where are you from zema ..
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 May 2018 17: 33
          +7
          Quote: 210ox
          White clay.


          I'm in Dinskaya .. drinks by the way, our people try to observe the crop rotation ... and they give the land rest ... but the truth is for the development .. they are withdrawing the land ..
          1. urman
            urman 4 May 2018 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            here's the truth .. building land ..

            In Anapa, the vineyards are almost brought out,
            land in square centimeters, sold for construction.
            And what is interesting is not a single enterprise, only housing, stone jungle in one word.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 May 2018 17: 59
              +2
              Quote: urman
              In Anapa, the vineyards are almost brought out,


              in Anapa itself, yes .. I wound up a month ago .. or rather they drove me (I’m half-help myself now lol lol ) in Sukko, Utrish .. there are vineyards .. laughing laughing

              in the Region there are many lands like this .. extreme agriculture or something .. outback .. Absheron district. I don’t touch Adygea .., Goryacheklyuchevskoy district .. Mostovskoy district. the villages there have grown up .. although gardening flourished before .. people leave .. but summer residents buy land .. Smolenskaya Shabanovskaya .. and we have .. so many visitors from the North over the past three years ..
              1. urman
                urman 4 May 2018 18: 02
                +1
                Quote: vorobey
                in Sukko Utrish .. there are vineyards.

                Well, if half of what it was.
                I live here with 87 and have something to compare.
                By the way, in Sukko and Utrish you drove past my house.
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 May 2018 18: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: urman
                  By the way, in Sukko and Utrish you drove past my house.


                  I'm through Varvarovka .. I did not call in Anapa drinks drinks beautiful places .. reserve ..

                  Yes, and in Anapa itself I grazed last year all .. there are darkness of customers .. True, all Anapa after the chicken season together move to Krasnodar for the winter ..
                  1. urman
                    urman 4 May 2018 18: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Quote: urman
                    By the way, in Sukko and Utrish you drove past my house.


                    I'm through Varvarovka .. drinks drinks beautiful places .. reserve ..

                    Yes, and in Anapa itself I grazed last year all .. there are darkness of customers .. True, all Anapa after the chicken season together move to Krasnodar for the winter ..

                    I'm with Su Psekha.
                    And not Anapchans pass
                    A lot of people just buy apartments by the sea so that in the summer there was where to come.
                    By the way, I also almost got here here, though the sites were free then.
                    And so everything in the north.
                  2. Rostovchanin
                    Rostovchanin 4 May 2018 19: 03
                    +2
                    In Sukko, the road is only through Varvarovka, if you do not know the Kai-Kodzor trails laughing I built a gas pipeline there, I know a hitch how to drive through the slots from the Sukko boiler house through the slots!
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                      1. Rostovchanin
                        Rostovchanin 4 May 2018 19: 20
                        +2
                        lol oh, a lot of associations! !!! For three years there he built the Russian CS and a thread from the CS Cossack ... All the paths from Varenikovskaya to Sukko through the Gostagaevskaya passes in the Urals and on the UAZ rode from 2013 to 2017 ... drinks
                    2. ProkletyiPirat
                      ProkletyiPirat 5 May 2018 04: 20
                      0
                      And what kind of factories are there?
                      1) 44.814523, 37.374033
                      2) 44.822451, 37.388313
                      3) 44.827777, 37.426721
                      Did you build a gas pipeline for them?
                      1. Rostovchanin
                        Rostovchanin 5 May 2018 05: 34
                        +1
                        These are not plants, this is the beginning of the Turkish stream:
                        3) Compressor station "Russian"
                        2) The last crane unit in front of the sea.
                        1) and this is a "puncture" in the mountain in front of the sea, the Italians made the company Strabag
                      2. ProkletyiPirat
                        ProkletyiPirat 5 May 2018 08: 52
                        0
                        Thank you very much for the information
              2. Pivot
                Pivot 4 May 2018 22: 45
                +1
                In Smolensk or in Shabany, you can’t cultivate anything; this is a honolon zone. There the forest should grow, on the extreme of sheep or cows grazing in the meadows is possible. And the village all over the world is dying out not only here.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 5 May 2018 11: 25
              0
              Quote: urman
              In Anapa, the vineyards are almost brought out,
              land in square centimeters, sold for construction.
              And what is interesting is not a single enterprise, only housing, stone jungle in one word.

              Everything is correct, people need to give the coast for giving and housing as in the whole world, and plant and sow in the depths of the Krasnodar Territory.
              1. urman
                urman 5 May 2018 14: 43
                0
                Quote: RUSS
                need people for giving

                It is necessary to judge officials who sell land in nature protection zones.
                Yes, people will not be able to buy land in the most tidy places, only hucksters,
                therefore, land in such places should remain the property of the state.
                And let the people rest, in sanatoriums and rest homes.
              2. ProkletyiPirat
                ProkletyiPirat 8 May 2018 22: 35
                0
                Quote: RUSS
                That's right, you need to give people to the cottages and housing the coast as in the whole world

                This is brilliant Watson, now I am compiling a business plan, the question is how do I demolish dozens of residential complexes of 30 floors and hundreds of houses from the coast after your building up the coast? Buy land? well, yes, you just have to spend tons of resources (time, nerves, money ...) on the liberation of the territory, and then the same amount on the construction of the plant? and why the hell does business need it if you can go to China \ Spain \ Italy, etc. and build a factory there with minimal loans and without any hemorrhoids? There you have it, "give it to the building". Yes, and I don’t even mention infrastructure, who will build roads, heating, electricity, sewers? here we get a mess like this https://yandex.ru/maps/?ll=37.142923%2C45.215036&
                amp; z = 17 & l = sat% 2Cskl
          2. 210ox
            210ox 4 May 2018 17: 58
            +4
            I work at a plant processing sunflower. The processing volumes are about seventy thousand tons .. Sasha, you yourself know that after at least five years after the “sun flower” the land should be under something else, rapeseed, spiked .. Yes, careful owners try to observe crop rotation .. But not all unfortunately ..
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: 210ox
            White clay.


            I'm in Dinskaya .. drinks by the way, our people try to observe the crop rotation ... and they give the land rest ... but the truth is for the development .. they are withdrawing the land ..
            1. Vikxnumx
              Vikxnumx 4 May 2018 19: 43
              0
              Seven years ... This is corn - a monoculture (this by itself).
              1. Pivot
                Pivot 4 May 2018 22: 54
                +1
                Only insecticides must be scrubbed from the scoop and every year more and more in costs after the 5th year, 6000 rubles per hectare, there is still a bunch of rubbish sticking to this monoculture, better than a three-shelf with wheat and soy, for the foothill regions of the Krasnodar Stavropol Territory and the KCR .
  3. vorobey
    vorobey 4 May 2018 17: 26
    +8
    Is Russia capable of responding to new challenges that have been expressed in the UN food organization? And another question: can Russia remain a supplier of environmentally friendly agricultural products to both the international and domestic markets?

    wrong questions ....

    is Russia capable of protecting its territories and water resources ... that is the right question ..
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 4 May 2018 22: 02
      +3
      Quote: vorobey
      And another question: is Russia capable of remaining a supplier of environmentally friendly agricultural products to both the international and domestic markets?

      And another question: how many organic products are there in Russia now? It seems like chemistry is all around ...
    2. himRa
      himRa 5 May 2018 05: 21
      +1
      Quote: vorobey
      is Russia capable of protecting its territories and water resources ... that is the right question.

      This ... deftly moved off topic, colleague! laughing
      If I correctly understood the article, the horror story, then the question is different: is humanity and the Russian Federation capable of feeding itself, in principle, or are we expecting hungry wars and wars for drinking water, as an option for another horror story wassat
      The answer is simple: she goes constantly,
      BUT the fact that the main surface of the planet and, accordingly, bio-resources are seas, oceans, lakes!
      In a word water!
      Yes, and it has already been said, but I’ll pay attention again - soil restoration 1cm. not 1000 years but every year! season ...
      Mankind has always starved and by the way is starving now (UN data) and this is called evolution!
      An article from the category of imaginary threats! hi
  4. alex3075
    alex3075 4 May 2018 17: 35
    +4
    "Is Russia able to meet the new challenges expressed by the UN food organization?" Hint at the division of Russian land? North America and Europe traded their fertility for dollars. Let the bucks and grow vegetables.
  5. Orkraider
    Orkraider 4 May 2018 17: 39
    +6
    China - agricultural products under the depletion of land. USA - shale mining kills the soil. Russia- unscrupulous tenants (especially from Asia, who take 5 crops at a time, burning soil with saltpeter), landfills are not so terrible, reclamation is only about 40-70 years. Ukraine- and they are generally on trial in The Hague on this topic. After all, they cut off the water supply to the Crimea, killing the soil on the peninsula!
    1. Orkraider
      Orkraider 4 May 2018 17: 42
      +2
      Quote: Orkraider
      Ukraine- and they are generally on trial in The Hague on this topic. After all, they cut off the water supply to the Crimea, killing the soil on the peninsula!
      A good idea, huh? After all, there’s something for which, at least create a petition to Strasbourg: we demand the trial of Ukraine, destroying the land!
  6. Topotun
    Topotun 4 May 2018 17: 40
    +1
    So star-striped have repeatedly said that all of Siberia should belong to the "world community." Like This is the property of the whole planet .... So, from our "partners" you can expect everything.
    1. Morosha
      Morosha 4 May 2018 18: 25
      0
      Quote: Topotun
      So star-striped have repeatedly said that all of Siberia should belong to the "world community." Like This is the property of the whole planet .... So, from our "partners" you can expect everything.

      Let me ask you a curiosity about which of the statesmen of the USA said this once or repeatedly? Maybe Madeleine Albright, because this is a famous fake, I beg you not to produce fables!
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 4 May 2018 18: 36
        +3
        Quote: Morosha
        Which of the statesmen of the USA specifically declared it once or repeatedly?


        Nobody out loud ... but what ..
        1. Morosha
          Morosha 4 May 2018 18: 44
          0
          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: Morosha
          Which of the statesmen of the USA specifically declared it once or repeatedly?


          Nobody out loud ... but what ..

          So all this is speculation.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 May 2018 18: 46
            +4
            Quote: Morosha
            So all this is speculation.


            about that we should not worry?

            in '92 how old were you?
      2. nikoliski
        nikoliski 4 May 2018 18: 46
        0
        They still have enough that we continue to drive our resources for nothing (the same titanium), they and Libya are being cunningly occupied, we have occupied the Crimea and now we are building infrastructure there, we are providing people with pensions and the like, and the Americans just put the marines on the ones they need, liquid oil derricks and all Libyan oil are now divided between France, the USA and Britain (and the gullible Libyans who ousted Gaddafi "themselves" who are at war fight among themselves, periodically going by boat to Italy)
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        1. Morosha
          Morosha 4 May 2018 19: 10
          +3
          Also a fake and the same request to you.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 4 May 2018 19: 25
            +2
            Quote: Morosha
            Also a fake and the same request to you.

            Well, look at the entire VO forum for how they dare to defame immaculate and holy Americans. laughing If you fake, then refute with arguments and facts and there will be no questions.
            1. Morosha
              Morosha 4 May 2018 19: 28
              0
              "Yeah, look at the whole VO forum, how dare they defame immaculate and holy Americans. Laughing If you fake that, refute it with arguments and facts and there will be no questions."
              --------------------------------

              If you ascribe to a person words that he never said, then provide the proof in the original language. I’m sure that you can’t do it.
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 4 May 2018 19: 28
            +5
            Quote: Morosha
            Also a fake and the same request to you.


            but what can you say about this ... SNB 20/1 memorandum (NSC 20/1 1948), August 18, 1948

            In any case, the new Russia:

            a) should not be so strong militarily as to threaten neighbors;
            b) must provide broad autonomy to national minorities;
            c) should be economically dependent on the outside world;
            d) must not establish a new “iron curtain”.
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          3. Dimachrus
            Dimachrus 4 May 2018 22: 11
            +1
            The NATO exercises in the Baltic states with the scenario - "a certain country not wishing to share resources" is also a fake? Moreover, regularly held years of commercials from 2006.
            Ready for you to find links to these events of the years 06-08 ;-)
            1. MadCat
              MadCat 5 May 2018 00: 13
              +1
              Quote: Dimachrus
              Ready for you to find links to these events of the years 06-08 ;-)

              you instead of screaming hold me seven can provide this curious document?
              1. Dimachrus
                Dimachrus 5 May 2018 08: 15
                0
                https://professionali.ru/Soobschestva/rossiya_vel
                ikaya_derzhava / nato_gotovitsya_k_krupnomasshtabno
                j_vojne_protiv_32708813 /
                Practically at the same time, NATO exercises “Steadfast cathode” (19-30.04) took place. Venue - the water area of ​​the North and Baltic Seas. Feature - a strategic offensive air campaign was worked out against the “invented state”, which owns huge natural resources in the face of problems with the delivery of these resources to Western countries
      4. Topotun
        Topotun 7 May 2018 10: 14
        +1
        And how do you comment on this:

        In October 2007, on a direct line with Vladimir Putin, Alexander 70, a 16-year-old employee of the Novosibirsk Institute of Nuclear Physics, asked the Russian president to comment on Albright’s phrase [17] that "the colossal natural wealth of Siberia is unjustly owned by Russia alone." Putin replied: “I am not familiar with this statement of Madame Albright, but I know that such ideas roam in the minds of some politicians” [2014]. In 18, Vladimir Putin at his press conference, explaining the country's economic difficulties after the accession of Crimea, again touched on this topic: “No, this is not a retribution for the Crimea. This is a retribution, this is a fee, or rather, for our natural desire to preserve ourselves as a nation, as a civilization, as a state. [...] After all, we have almost repeatedly heard from officials that it is unfair that Siberia, with its immeasurable wealth, belongs to Russia. How unfair? Is it fair to take Texas off Mexico? ”[XNUMX].
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  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 May 2018 17: 40
    +2
    It is high time to lower the iron curtain to the borders with Asian neighbors. There, without any water-land problems, a meat grinder is planned. Let them search for food in the "golden European half a billion."
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 4 May 2018 23: 51
      +1
      I completely agree with you. let them figure out their independence!
  8. friend of animals
    friend of animals 4 May 2018 17: 42
    +1
    Give the Chinese more land for use.
  9. shubin
    shubin 4 May 2018 17: 48
    +4
    Earth must be wisely used. Holland is the second largest food exporter in the world after the USA, compare the USA and the Netherlands. And how many such Holland will fit in Russia.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2018 18: 06
      +7
      Quote: shubin
      the second-largest food exporter in the world after the USA,


      MONSANTA works miracles ... only this is not our way ... Won Bonduelle tried to dictate with us .. put in the frame .. about GMOs ..
    2. nikoliski
      nikoliski 4 May 2018 18: 40
      +2
      Leader-exporter, but for what exactly? for wheat we are clearly ahead (only China and India have higher yields, but Brazil eats pineapple and coffee), Philippines for palm oil, I think in the case of the Dutch there is a usual speculative scheme (when their firms “export” the goods are not even directly related to it), for example, Denmark is one of the largest exporters of pork (7th place in the world in terms of livestock); possibly resale of Danish meat goes to the Netherlands as a bonus, so I trust trusted sources more than nonsense
    3. helmi8
      helmi8 4 May 2018 22: 06
      +3
      Quote: shubin
      Holland - the second-largest food exporter in the world after the USA

      An exporter and a manufacturer are two slightly different concepts, aren't they? wink
    4. Awaz
      Awaz 5 May 2018 11: 59
      +1
      she is also a large importer. Moreover, it imports as well as exports. What's the secret ? The fact that they themselves have something that they do not want to produce. They even buy potato from Old Man
  10. Tusv
    Tusv 4 May 2018 18: 23
    +1
    In general, it is better to shoot yourself. Colt to help you. We have the FMS monitors you
  11. bald
    bald 4 May 2018 18: 31
    +1
    Everything goes to the fact that Russian lands (resources), as they were a tidbit, will be so, only appetites will grow. And land needs care and protection, from thoughtless distribution of land to strangers. They her, oh how they stuff with chemistry.
  12. nikoliski
    nikoliski 4 May 2018 18: 34
    0
    Considering that in Baikal, a larger percentage of relatively clean fresh water is concentrated on the planet (it is estimated that if every inhabitant of the earth drinks a liter of this lake per day, then there will be enough water for the whole world for a year!) For China, for example, if there is a long-term drought Baikal’s resource is no less important than billions tons of oil hidden in the bowels of Siberia (there are up to 2 trillion barrels, which is more than all of Saudi Arabia, but it is possible to extract no more than 2% of the existing methods)
  13. Aqr009
    Aqr009 4 May 2018 18: 43
    +6
    Hydroponics is the future — a way to grow plants without soil. The technology was developed under the direction of Professor Guericke at the University of Berkeley (California).
    The FAO report gives green light to a large number of companies to implement projects to transfer agriculture from traditional to hydroponic. And the introduction of robotics generally eliminates the peasantry as a class. The collective farm of the future will resemble a skyscraper!

    Dough on this can be cut down unintentionally fellow
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2018 18: 48
      +4
      Quote: Aqr009
      Dough on this can be cut down unintentionally


      and then for a tree .. request request
      1. Aqr009
        Aqr009 4 May 2018 18: 51
        0
        and then for a tree ..

        It is not clear yet what kind of cryptocurrency of the future may be winked
      2. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 4 May 2018 19: 09
        +5
        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: Aqr009
        Dough on this can be cut down unintentionally


        and then for a tree .. request request

        I think BABCOBAB! laughing I welcome Alexander! belay
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          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 4 May 2018 20: 18
            +4
            Hello again Sanya! hi I can’t do it today! crying My Precious - an elderly girlfriend, gives out a marriage, they are clearly prepared there .... dresses - ribbons! I am with the Children! But tomorrow at the wedding - Egegei galigali! laughing drinks
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 May 2018 20: 36
              +3
              Quote: Hunter 2
              I can’t do it today!


              henpecked ... laughing laughing just kidding.
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    2. nikoliski
      nikoliski 4 May 2018 18: 53
      +5
      I have the word hydroponics for some reason, the association immediately with Dutch marijuana
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 4 May 2018 19: 12
        0
        Quote: nikoliski
        I have the word hydroponics for some reason, the association immediately with Dutch marijuana

        What is the same rubber? wink
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 4 May 2018 21: 31
        +1
        Quote: nikoliski
        at the word hydroponics for some reason, the association immediately with Dutch marijuana

        Well, that goes without saying. yes wassat There is another association - Israeli kibbutzim. There too
        very successful, only grow fruit and vegetables.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 May 2018 19: 11
      +1
      Quote: Aqr009
      Dough on this can be cut down unintentionally

      Yeah, yeah, GMOs are already chopping. I remember what a howl in America rose when Zhinka Bardak Obamycha planted tomatoes in front of the White House. laughing
      1. Aqr009
        Aqr009 4 May 2018 19: 28
        0
        ... planted tomatoes in front of the White House.

        Now, if she had planted them in her closet, then manufacturers of compact room farms would have got rich! Who would refuse a fresh harvest for breakfast every morning smile
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 4 May 2018 19: 34
          +2
          Quote: Aqr009
          Now, if she planted them in her closet,

          All this cabinet hydroponics reminds me of the same bananas that "ripen" in gas chambers. In Germany, natural products grown in the land are several times more expensive than hydroponic ones. Products in the sun should ripen, and not in the cabinet. IMHO.
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 5 May 2018 20: 37
      0
      Quote: Aqr009
      Hydroponics is the future — a way to grow plants without soil. The technology was developed under the direction of Professor Guericke at the University of Berkeley (California).

      China already builds these houses with gardens
  14. urman
    urman 4 May 2018 19: 26
    0
    Quote: Rostovchanin
    For three years there he built the Russian Constitutional Court

    Which company did he work for? I worked in a gas construction project.
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 4 May 2018 19: 29
      0
      I have dofig in the SHG of acquaintances, I, in principle, are the only owner in the LGSS ...
      1. urman
        urman 4 May 2018 19: 36
        0
        It is clear in Lengaz.
        And I think in the GSP URALS ONLY SHIFTS WERE.
  15. urman
    urman 4 May 2018 19: 27
    0
    Rostovchanin,
    Since Rostov, we had a lot of guys in SHG.
  16. urman
    urman 4 May 2018 19: 34
    0
    [quote = Rostovite]lol oh, a lot of associations! !!! For three years there he built the Russian CS and a thread from the CS Cossack ... All the paths from Varenikovskaya to Sukko through the Gostagaevskaya passes in the Urals and on the UAZ rode from 2013 to 2017 ... drinks[/ Quote
    Why the site is buggy, what company did you work for?
    I’m in the SHG, they also built a CS, later my son worked there.
  17. bogart047
    bogart047 4 May 2018 19: 42
    +1
    maybe it's easier to deal with overpopulation? Condoms to distribute, sterilize all blacks in Africa? Obviously, the fact is that there will be 2 billion people who will not work, but will want to eat and demand humanitarian assistance.
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  19. wachmann
    wachmann 4 May 2018 22: 05
    +2
    Borders need to be strengthened and migrant laws tightened. sooner or later, from the south, “guests” will come and unobtrusively ask them to move. for the time being, on the contrary, we have the opposite: a passage yard and an easy way to obtain citizenship, gain a foothold and drag our innumerable relatives here. and let the iPhone not dream, no one will mix, as in the overseas ethnic garbage
  20. Dart
    Dart 4 May 2018 23: 18
    0
    Monsanto-on count. And state regulation to enter. To this everything will come. And guard the borders.
  21. Nychego
    Nychego 4 May 2018 23: 57
    +2
    What mediocrity this bogeyman riveted?
    The soil layer grows at a speed of 1 cm per year (tropics) to 0,01 cm (i.e. 1 cm per 100 years) in mountainous areas.
    The reason for the decline in land suitable for agricultural use is irregular agriculture, including in Russia. The loss leaders are Africa, Brazil, Russia, Central Asia, and Southeast Asia. With normal modern agriculture, productivity can be very high. Britain from the turn of the 70-80s to this day produces enough agricultural products to feed the population, even taking into account all the comers. Sweden too. Canada, Americans, Holland, France, Israel are large exporters without loss of land in agricultural circulation. It is necessary to raise the level of agricultural culture, rather than grabbing with all the foolishness, and not only 9 billion, but 15 can be fed without depleting the planet’s resources.
    With water, too, not everything is clear. The lack of drinking is the result of poor cleaning above all. Where technology and utilities are developed everything is OK. In New York, you can drink tap water and it is even delicious, which is one of the pride of the inhabitants. In Mumbai, even in their "slums" there are always columns with clean water.
    In the Middle East, water resources are in short supply. There, in Syria, Kurds from the SDS are now water kings - they control the Tabgha dam, and therefore, it’s not upsetting them ...
    Of course there will be a struggle for control over resources and water with agricultural lands suitable for agricultural use, one of them, but not how bad everything is in these matters. Worse with social development and technology. And Russia in these matters is not at the forefront at all, continuing to slowly descend into anusmundia.
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 May 2018 03: 51
    0
    Food wazoo. Just with her distribution problems.
    Somewhere overdue dump trucks dumped in the trash,
    somewhere the last ... root without salt eat up.
    Creating an artificial environment for growing food can also help.
    And what about the "starving children of Africa", so they die out all the way there,
    this is their natural pastime.
  23. urman
    urman 5 May 2018 16: 59
    +1
    Rostovchanin,
    1) and this is a "puncture" in the mountain in front of the sea, the Italians made the company Strabag
    Yes, in the end, the jamb happened at Shtrabak, their aggregate broke underground.
    For a long time they were looking for a way out, well, they did it.
    By the way, the son after KSki worked for them, all the same according to the letter of the law, for drivers of any kind of processing, the labor code of the Russian Federation is respected until the last comma.
    Learn from our hucksters.
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 5 May 2018 17: 10
      +2
      Yes, it happened to them to get into the territory, you’ll come to the CP from them two soldiers come and begin to make inspection! Our traffic police is resting! God forbid a drop on the crankcase or on the radiator hangs on the territory will not be allowed. With OT they are very tough!