Russian shipbuilders are waiting for a large order from Atomflot

4 May 2018 39

Atomflot intends to order a special vessel to service nuclear icebreakers at sea, reports Kommersant with reference to the sources.

According to one of the sources, “an order for the construction of a multifunctional vessel for atomic-technological services (ICAUT) for Rosatom can be received by the USC Baltzavod.” He noted that Baltzavod had already received a technical project and a request for a technology for building a new vessel from the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

“ICATO should service the LK-60 nuclear icebreakers under construction and the floating Akademik Lomonosov NPP (FNPP), it is needed for recharging reactors, storing and transporting new and spent nuclear fuel (SNF), as well as all types of radioactive waste (RW). It was supposed to work with the Rhythm-200 (LC-60), KLT-40С (FATE) reactors, as well as with the Rhythm-400 reactors, ”the article says.

In the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the newspaper explained that the customer of ICATO would be Rosatom represented by Atomflot. Currently, the issues of financing and choosing a shipyard are being worked out. The cost of construction and terms are not disclosed yet. In turn, the sources estimate the order, approximately, in 10 billion rubles.

According to the interlocutor of the publication, Baltzavod is not the only contender for Macau. As one of the options considered Severodvinsk "Zvezdochka", as well as Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky in Tatarstan (the plant can place an order for the shipyard “Zaliv” in Kerch under its control).

In addition, the source did not rule out the possibility of ordering two similar vessels. The second is for the Russian Ministry of Defense.

One ship is difficult to divide into two departments, they have different tasks, points of deployment. In addition, the military may ask for an improved version of the tanker,

explained the source.

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NEXUS

+6

4 May 2018 10: 57

I never understood ... we are building huge icebreakers, but there are no destroyers and cruisers. Moreover, we are building icebreakers quite quickly without 10-year downtime.
1. igorserg
  
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  4 May 2018 11: 01
  
  apparently the icebreaker pays off
  1. Hunter 2
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 11
    
    Quote: igorserg
    apparently the icebreaker pays off
    
    It not only pays off, but also brings solid profit! By the way, it’s so abstract - can you imagine how much the cruise on the Icebreaker to the Arctic costs ??? Himself stunned, from a hundred thousand American presidents per person! Tickets - sold out for several years !!!
    1. ZVO
      
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      4 May 2018 16: 25
      
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Quote: igorserg
      apparently the icebreaker pays off
      
      It not only pays off, but also brings solid profit! By the way, it’s so abstract - can you imagine how much the cruise on the Icebreaker to the Arctic costs ??? Himself stunned, from a hundred thousand American presidents per person! Tickets - sold out for several years !!!
      
      Well not so. The annual subsidies to Atomflot are approximately $ 40 million.
  2. Kaskad
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 33
    
    Quote: igorserg
    apparently the icebreaker pays off
    
    Not that word ! Atomic Fleet in the north, you guys just can’t imagine .. There will be major cities to build! This is a dream since the days of the USSR. Now technology allows it!
    1. Mordvin 3
      
      +2
      
      4 May 2018 11: 44
      
      Quote: Kaskad
      . There will be large cities to build!
      
      But why?
      1. Kaskad
        
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        4 May 2018 12: 50
        
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Kaskad
        . There will be large cities to build!
        
        But why?
        
        Ah Vladimir, the future of Russia in the Arctic there! Huge resources, one thing is aviation to redo people and the military, another thing is the towns and cities there on the basis of atomic energy (floating power plants) ..! Such things can stir up .. Tale!
        
        Mordvin 3
        
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        4 May 2018 13: 07
        
        Quote: Kaskad
        another thing is the towns and cities there on the basis of atomic energy (floating power plants)
        
        I do not mean it. What will people do there? In order to extract resources, big cities are not needed. And the climate there ... not very ... And as a result - expensive logistics, and utilities.
        
        Kaskad
        
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        4 May 2018 13: 13
        
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Kaskad
        another thing is the towns and cities there on the basis of atomic energy (floating power plants)
        
        I do not mean it. What will people do there? In order to extract resources, big cities are not needed. And the climate there ... not very ... And as a result - expensive logistics, and utilities.
        
        Everything will be very comfortable and cheap there, that's just the point! Energy will be, not diesel generators and. D. The villages will shine and they will be clearly visible even in space! We create floating nuclear power plants ..
        What people will do there, it is better not to know .. (to some comrades) There is something to do!
        
        Mordvin 3
        
        +2
        
        4 May 2018 13: 26
        
        Quote: Kaskad
        Everything will be very comfortable and cheap there, that's just the point!
        
        Eh, you are an idealist. Nothing will be cheap there.
        Quote: Kaskad
        What people will do there, it is better not to know .. (to some comrades) There is something to do!
        
        C'mon, why bring a shadow over the wattle fence. There, in the Far East, few people ride, despite the promised hectare. A spaceport East? They built a whole city, and launched as much as one rocket. And atomic energy is much more expensive than it sounds. Dreaming is certainly not harmful, but I'm a cynic rather. Read something Parshin "Why Russia is not America."
        
        Kaskad
        
        +1
        
        4 May 2018 13: 36
        
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Eh, you are an idealist. Nothing will be cheap there.
        
        I agree.! But generations will not forget us sure! We could afford pensions and salaries, etc.
        All of them for the future of Russia (even though they are robbing us along the way)))!
        Here you go!
        
        ZVO
        
        +1
        
        4 May 2018 16: 28
        
        Quote: Kaskad
        
        All of them for the future of Russia (even though they are robbing us along the way)))!
        Here you go!
        
        Is this your form of trolling chtoli?
        To look prohibitively sugary, sugary crazy idealist, what would it be to rejection, to vomit?
        
        faiver
        
        +2
        
        4 May 2018 16: 39
        
        you are welcome in tiksi stir up your affairs, or at least one winter experience in a more civilized Yakutsk, in the language of revenge it does not coolie to roll ...
    2. ZVO
      
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      4 May 2018 16: 26
      
      Quote: Kaskad
      Quote: igorserg
      apparently the icebreaker pays off
      
      Not that word ! Atomic Fleet in the north, you guys just can’t imagine .. There will be major cities to build! This is a dream since the days of the USSR. Now technology allows it!
      
      Have you ever been to the North ????
      Where do you come from so "funny" ???
      1. faiver
        
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        4 May 2018 16: 59
        
        such obviously not from the north
    3. Golovan Jack
      
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      4 May 2018 16: 45
      
      Quote: Kaskad
      it's guys you just can not imagine
      
      Hehe
2. Thrall
  
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  4 May 2018 11: 02
  
  There are also no battleships ...
  We build what the country needs.
  1. NEXUS
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 12
    
    Quote: Thrall
    We build what the country needs.
    
    Do we need destroyers and cruisers? Moreover, taking into account the aging of the Soviet legacy, I think they will be more tight. Icebreakers are certainly needed, but looking at how quickly large-tonnage icebreakers are being built and how slowly we are building frigates and corvettes, a cognitive dissonance occurs with the question - is it all being built in one country or are frigates with corvettes being built by Guinea, and Russia are icebreakers?
    1. Dmitry 2246
      
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      4 May 2018 11: 25
      
      We will immediately put container-type weapons on icebreakers!
      Unexpected turn.
      1. ZVO
        
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        4 May 2018 16: 30
        
        Quote: Dmitry 2246
        We will immediately put container-type weapons on icebreakers!
        Unexpected turn.
        
        Container-type weapons still need powerful radars, ASGs, military BIUS and other things, without which any weapon turns into pumpkins ...
    2. Serg65
      
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      4 May 2018 12: 03
      
      Quote: NEXUS
      Do we need destroyers and cruisers?
      
      I don’t know the cruiser, but the destroyers are definitely needed!
      The destroyer must be armed with the latest weapons, which will be relevant in 20 years, but with the weapon we have a problem! Therefore, while we are building frigates and corvettes!
3. Nasrat
  
  0
  
  4 May 2018 11: 02
  
  It can be seen while we are leaving the USSR ...
  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 08
    
    Quote: Nasr
    It can be seen while we are leaving the USSR ...
    
    From the USSR heritage, 4 museum destroyers of coastal defense and 4 living cruisers remained. Apparently soon there will be nothing to leave. But icebreakers are being built in series.
    Nuclear-powered icebreaker Taimyr, October 2017.
4. Turgon
  
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  4 May 2018 11: 22
  
  Arms and instrumentation are far behind schedule, and the backwardness of our industry and dependence on foreign supplies are also affecting. This is my view from the inside of the problem, as a defense engineer.
  1. NEXUS
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 49
    
    Quote: Turgon
    Arms and instrumentation are far behind schedule
    
    Phew ... I immediately recall Polement Redoubt. In the USSR, several research institutes, design bureaus, and even sharashka were engaged in one problem. There was competition, there were non-standard solutions. Our designers were crushed?
    In general, with Polement-Redut, a nasty idea sometimes comes to mind that this whole story smacks of sabotage.
    1. Turgon
      
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      4 May 2018 12: 04
      
      Yes, our designers and research institutes are not up to the mark. But the bureaucratic superstructure and the degraded military acceptance is another institution; in the USSR such industry veterans do not remember. Corruption, poor governance, and an eye on Moscow’s decision everywhere.
  2. Serg65
    
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    4 May 2018 12: 04
    
    Quote: Turgon
    This is my view from the inside of the problem, as a defense engineer.
    
    And who cares? GIVE LINKORS !!!!!!!
5. MoJloT
  
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  4 May 2018 11: 38
  
  As far as I know, at least projects 10520 from the very beginning were designed so that in a short time they could be converted into a warship. To do this, the necessary equipment is stored in onshore warehouses, and some systems in a mothballed condition are directly on board. So, in the bow of the ship before the cabin was installed fire control radar of the removable artillery mount MP-123. This is just what the public knows.
  1. ZVO
    
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    4 May 2018 16: 32
    
    Quote: MoJloT
    So, in the bow of the ship before the cabin was installed fire control radar of the removable artillery mount MP-123. This is just what the public knows.
    
    And what does this give in modern realities?
    Maybe during the Second World War - it meant something .. And now?
    Absolutely zero.
    Maybe on icebreakers sapling GAS is? Well, what would the adversaries "hear"? :)
    1. MoJloT
      
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      4 May 2018 16: 37
      
      Well, come from the age of 72, something has changed, you look at 2048 and details will appear.
6. Serg65
  
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  4 May 2018 11: 44
  
  Quote: NEXUS
  We are building huge icebreakers, but no destroyers or cruisers.
  
  Andrey, what do you think is the difference between an icebreaker and a destroyer?
  1. NEXUS
    
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    4 May 2018 11: 52
    
    Quote: Serg65
    Andrey, what do you think is the difference between an icebreaker and a destroyer?
    
    Sergey, it’s already understandable that with weapons, electronics, etc. .... but tell me, how many years have passed since the first Sarych left the fleet? And what, during this time, they somehow did not understand that our fleet of destroyers was out of date and needed a replacement?
    1. Serg65
      
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      4 May 2018 12: 14
      
      Quote: NEXUS
      And what, during this time, they somehow did not understand that our fleet of destroyers was out of date and needed a replacement?
      
      Why didn’t you understand? Very well understood! Only one thing to want, and another thing to have! At the moment, for ships of 1 rank, we don’t have promising numbed weapons, electronics for these weapons, we sort of figured out the power plant. Rivet the case like two fingers on the asphalt, and then what? I want to reassure, work on these problems is underway, but this is a long song and not because of the "cut", a lot has to be created from scratch, until the 14 year Ukrainians bought not only turbines, but also electronics, optics ... and a bunch everything related to military shipbuilding! It so happened that under the USSR, 60% of this industry was concentrated in Ukraine, and 20 in other republics of the USSR.
Livonetc

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4 May 2018 11: 22

Quote: NEXUS
I never understood ... we are building huge icebreakers, but there are no destroyers and cruisers. Moreover, we are building icebreakers quite quickly without 10-year downtime.

The corresponding capacities are not enough.
In the future, icebreakers should provide the commercial component of the northern sea route, as well as ensure mining operations on the northern shelf.
Perhaps having completed the program of "icebreaking" and "near-icebreaking" construction, defense projects will also be launched.
And here is the question.
Are there any modern (recently developed in Russia) projects of large warships?
1. Serg65
  
  +3
  
  4 May 2018 12: 05
  
  Quote: Livonetc
  Are there any modern (recently developed in Russia) projects of large warships?
  
  The ship is designed for weapons, do you have weapons?
Livonetc

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4 May 2018 12: 09

Quote: Serg65
Quote: Livonetc
Are there any modern (recently developed in Russia) projects of large warships?

The ship is designed for weapons, do you have weapons?

Who are you talking to now?
I personally do not know, and therefore asked.
Paranoid50

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4 May 2018 13: 24

Hmm, an interesting project. TZM for nuclear icebreakers and FNPPs ...
According to the interlocutor of the publication, Baltzavod is not the only contender for Macau. As one of the options considered Severodvinsk "Zvezdochka", as well as Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky in Tatarstan (the plant can place an order for the shipyard “Zaliv” in Kerch under its control).
In addition, the source did not rule out the possibility of ordering two similar vessels. The second is for the Russian Ministry of Defense.
Well, the first, most likely, will be built at our place, on Baltic. And the one for the military, please be nice to Zvyozdochka - they have a special relationship with Moscow Region.
senima56

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4 May 2018 14: 27

It is necessary to support the "Bay" Kerch. They have the largest dry dock in Russia! Do not stand idle for such equipment!
Apollo

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4 May 2018 22: 48

Quote: igorserg

Not that word ! Atomic Fleet in the north, you guys just can’t imagine .. There will be major cities to build! This is a dream since the days of the USSR. Now technology allows it!

All men represent and understand, but if there is a choice, they usually prefer the south, east or west. In addition, Russia is full of undeveloped territories with a more favorable climate for humans, and cities that exist must be put in order, broken huts, communal apartments and washed from fel for more than a dozen years. This is what you should think about. And the Russian North, he is unprofitable by definition, lives only on subsidies. Why build cities there? To expand subsidized territories? Well this is absurd.