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Before the first missile strike. An American officer spoke about the weak points of the US Navy.

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The US navy has made significant progress in the development of electronic systems, but in the event of a real war, the ships will be in great danger, believes former San Jacinto missile cruiser navigator Jonathan Panther.




Reliance on digital technology is particularly acute in the areas of communication, propulsion and navigation. This led to the creation of fleetthat may not be able to withstand the first missile strike or hacking,
quotes an officer RIA News.

He noted that "dependence on computer development entails greater sensitivity to interference from the enemy."

Intensive automation of the Navy and a reduction in crew size is beneficial in peacetime. However, during the war, this creates a certain vulnerability, because the equipment can fail,
added Panther.

The navigator also reported that the Navy servicemen again began to master astronomical navigation. Yes, only such efforts, according to him, will not bring any benefit, since "ships do not have paper maps."
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 4 May 2018 09: 43
    +2
    They arrived, and if the generator flies, they will drift. Let them strengthen with the galley fleet.
    1. Hire
      Hire 4 May 2018 09: 47
      +37
      Yes, only such efforts, according to him, will not bring any benefit, since "the ships do not have paper cards."

      It seems to me that the Americans began to guess something ... smile
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 09: 51
        +8
        Quote: Hire
        Americans began to guess something ...

        Their special forces are already learning to use paper maps and a compass, rather than blindly relying on GPS and Google Earth.
        1. Yaro Polk
          Yaro Polk 4 May 2018 10: 17
          +3
          Their special forces are already learning how to use paper cards and a compasslaughing wassat
          1. Dead duck
            Dead duck 4 May 2018 10: 36
            +9
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            Their special forces

            Of course theirs, Amer’s ... there laughing
            Common spoken word (old) request
            Yaropolk generally name and spelled what
            1. Yaro Polk
              Yaro Polk 4 May 2018 10: 44
              +7
              And us, separately, but)
              1. Dead duck
                Dead duck 4 May 2018 10: 45
                +3
                this is different winked
            2. lopvlad
              lopvlad 4 May 2018 11: 19
              +3
              Quote: Deadush
              Common spoken word (old)


              no. This is an ordinary illiterate word on the basis of which enterprising Russophobes create a separate nation from Russians, taking as a basis the local version of illiterate Russian (Ukrainian, Belarusian).
              1. Senior manager
                Senior manager 4 May 2018 11: 50
                +3
                Quote: lopvlad
                This is an ordinary illiterate word on the basis of which enterprising Russophobes create a separate nation from Russians, taking as a basis the local version of illiterate Russian (Ukrainian, Belarusian).

                Oh, how we love to politicize everything. There is a common language, there is a local language (local features), there is a literary language and an academic one, and all of them are in kind. I don’t understand the argument. In German, people who speak German may not understand the dialect of another locality. In your opinion, they need to prove to each other whose language is “more right”?
                1. lopvlad
                  lopvlad 4 May 2018 15: 30
                  +2
                  In your opinion, they need to prove to each other whose language is “more right”?


                  the point is not that it is unnecessary to divide the people into separate nations and peoples only on the basis of what they speak in the local dialect of the main language.
                  A dialect is just an illiterate version of the main literary language.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 15: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: lopvlad
                    A dialect is just an illiterate version of the main literary language

                    ... and literary language is an averaged, ordered, and filtered version of dialects. Refute.
                    Yet in this case, KVM, the egg (dialects) is primarily yes
                    1. lopvlad
                      lopvlad 4 May 2018 15: 50
                      +1
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Refute.


                      and I’m not going to. I'm trying to convey to you that the dialect of the main language cannot be the basis for isolating a separate nation from any existing, existing people.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 16: 17
                        0
                        Quote: lopvlad
                        I am trying to convey to you that the dialect of the main language cannot be the basis for isolating a single nation from any existing, existing people

                        Ufff ... peoples, nations ... these are such wilds belay
                        Are you talking about this now?
                        Quote: lopvlad
                        enterprising Russophobes create a separate nation from Russians by taking the local version of illiterate Russian as a basis

                        Duc, this ... You yourself threw the ball up, and you yourself chase it with inspiration ... as they say - I dare not interfere wink
                2. vadim dok
                  vadim dok 4 May 2018 19: 15
                  +2
                  Of course, the words "EVOYNY" and "EYEY" sound VERY competent and patriotic!
        2. gippernano
          gippernano 4 May 2018 11: 40
          +1
          You can teach and monkey, but teach ....
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 11: 46
            0
            That's for sure . Interestingly, exams are passed on the result of training or so - "the course of lectures is listened." lol
            1. gippernano
              gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 27
              +2
              I think lecturers are tortured to search. An empty idea ...... with training in the sense. Without knowledge of arithmetic, and alphabet, it will be difficult ....., again, to take exams, who knows whether he answers correctly or not? It’s easier to build a couple of new fleets, and not bother with this Morse code.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 12: 30
                +1
                Yes, depressing ... Let at least on YouTube videos watch, or something, and then try in practice.
                1. gippernano
                  gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 45
                  +2
                  So they try, last year it seems, the admiral was fired. Subordinates pacified the entire merchant fleet of the Pacific, and themselves did not miraculously kill.
                  1. gippernano
                    gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 50
                    +1
                    And they didn’t beat them on junks, it’s easy to miss them, but on container ships, for sure. About the last Korean it seems they poked much, even the sailors were killed, and the repair was for millions, so it is necessary to go to Glonas, and not to be clever.
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 13: 01
                      0
                      No words, some mats ...
      2. Borets
        Borets 4 May 2018 09: 51
        +4
        Let us buy cigarettes from the White Sea Canal urgently)
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 May 2018 10: 02
          +15
          Quote: Borets
          Let us buy cigarettes from the White Sea Canal urgently)


          YOU who work for ... am
        2. Sergey-svs
          Sergey-svs 4 May 2018 10: 11
          +4
          Quote: Borets
          Let us buy cigarettes from the White Sea Canal urgently)

          The knowledge of astronomy will be useless in maritime affairs without knowledge of geography, and with this, some "Americans" have trouble ... yes but without knowledge of geography, you can easily find yourself off the coast of Belarus ... laughing
          PS And by the way, I’ll sell to the Pentagon the “secret” navigational charts of the Belarusian Sea ... Inexpensive ... wassat
        3. Vladivostok1969
          Vladivostok1969 4 May 2018 10: 11
          +4
          Let us buy cigarettes from the White Sea Canal urgently)

          If they will use in place of a map, a compass as a gift. laughing
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 May 2018 10: 36
            +6
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            compass as a gift.


            odometer... wassat wassat

        4. gippernano
          gippernano 4 May 2018 11: 51
          +4

          Hold bro a modern map, for the sailors.
        5. I am Russian
          I am Russian 4 May 2018 13: 56
          0
          I heard (from those who went there) that our Belamorkanal cigarettes, especially in a tin box, are in demand. A very convenient thing, as they say, knowledgeable people. winked
      3. vorobey
        vorobey 4 May 2018 09: 59
        +7
        Quote: Hire
        It seems to me that the Americans began to guess something ...


        Do you think that somewhere, all the same, we are pierced? laughing laughing
        1. Hire
          Hire 4 May 2018 10: 09
          +8
          Alexander, my respect hi
          Quote: vorobey
          Do you think that somewhere, all the same, we are pierced?

          Sure! Why did our hackers choose Trump so brazenly and frankly? Could have been more modest ... laughing
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 May 2018 10: 13
            +6
            Quote: Hire
            Alexander, my respect hi
            Quote: vorobey
            Do you think that somewhere, all the same, we are pierced?

            Sure! Why did our hackers choose Trump so brazenly and frankly? Could have been more modest ... laughing


            yes .. it's a jamb .. but they themselves prick like that motya ..

      4. kasatky
        kasatky 4 May 2018 10: 01
        +1
        The navigator Panther does not know, he knows :)
        1. Hire
          Hire 4 May 2018 10: 17
          +8
          Quote: kasatky
          The navigator Panther does not know, he knows :)

          smile Are you sure? Remember Zadornov? Here are the real negotiations between the lighthouse and the aircraft carrier laughing
          1. gippernano
            gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 04
            +1

            check out aerobatics
      5. Nick
        Nick 4 May 2018 10: 11
        +1
        Quote: Hire
        ripily and if the generator flies, they will drift. Let them strengthen with a galley fleet

        Quote: Hire
        It seems to me that the Americans began to guess something ...

        Perhaps they simply pretend to be miserable to lull the vigilance of a potential enemy ... hi
      6. gippernano
        gippernano 4 May 2018 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: Hire
        It seems to me that the Americans began to guess something ... smile

        Yes, no, flashed by accident. I think right now the morse women will try to train the Afro-Mexican contingent, and give up all these ventures. It’s easier to build a dozen new Zumvolts.
      7. Yrec
        Yrec 4 May 2018 13: 51
        0
        Yes, they squeezed the retirement of the former navigator here and aching.
      8. watchmaker
        watchmaker 6 May 2018 08: 11
        0
        It's time to “start guessing” 27 sailors from Cook have already guessed and quickly written off from the boat to the shore laughing
        US pilots are also beginning to think ...
        They begin to understand that they will not succeed in committing attacks with impunity ...
    2. artifact
      artifact 4 May 2018 10: 40
      +1
      Quote: Teberii
      They arrived, and if the generator flies, they will drift. Let them strengthen with the galley fleet.

      Yes, they have so many diapers - they’ll sew a sail
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 4 May 2018 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: artifact
        Yes they have so many diapers

        Banshee I have a simple sentence for you - consider the word diapers in the comment as spam (flood) and divide (C) Like Roma to you my know-how)))
        1. artifact
          artifact 4 May 2018 10: 50
          +1
          so be it about the wise one!
          1. Romulus
            Romulus 4 May 2018 11: 39
            0
            Quote: artifact
            so be it about the wise one!

            Alas.. crying , then there will be a ban and brother REM))
  2. Kaskad
    Kaskad 4 May 2018 09: 46
    +3
    This led to the creation of a fleet that may not be able to withstand the first missile strike or hacking,

    This should not be carried away ..! These all high technologies in the field of telecommunications will be zilch. Old antiquated methods of war should never be forgotten! The same Morse code for example, etc.
  3. alex-pmr
    alex-pmr 4 May 2018 09: 47
    +4
    It’s like .... And here, for example, artillery still carries out binding and orientation of guns on the compass (PAB-2), which was used as far back as the Second World War
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 08
      +1
      And in their students in Poland, they got so lost with GPS that they ended up in Germany.
  4. sa-ag
    sa-ag 4 May 2018 09: 48
    0
    Yes, only such efforts, according to him, will not bring any benefit, since "the ships do not have paper cards"

    I have a problem too
    1. novel66
      novel66 4 May 2018 09: 55
      +2
      in the open ocean can still be a problem. I’m ashamed to somehow ask the Papuans for directions from a neighboring island
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 4 May 2018 10: 06
      +4
      From the category - If I do not know, this is not at all! - back in 90, an autonomous processor was working with binding to cards .... only a compass and a couple of very conspicuous landmarks and you will find out where you are and where to go next. The thing is foreign. It is clear that there are not many landmarks in the open ocean, but no one has canceled the stars! Moreover, if astrolabe is tied to some sort of computer, automate the process. Print the cards, this is finally not a question! Specialists to prepare, time, incentive and of course teachers are needed. They will, I have no doubt!
  5. Ased
    Ased 4 May 2018 09: 51
    +1
    Any child prodigy - this is until the first real battle.
    Remember the battleship Tirpitz.
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 May 2018 09: 52
    +3
    The US Navy has made significant advances in the development of electronic systems, however, in the event of a real war, ships will be in great danger...

    Keywords! fellow It remains only not to declare war on the enemy, capable of creating such a danger. For the rest, you can produce rocket salvos and explain that this is according to the organizers of the chemical attack ... belay You can organize a floating airfield and bomb countries, explaining this by the presence of weapons of mass destruction ... belay Or send the AUG to the shores of a rebellious state just to intimidate ... belay
    This is what the life-giving dollar does: it deprives some of them of fear, while others inspire terror and panic.
  7. askort154
    askort154 4 May 2018 09: 57
    +2
    Susanin already knew how to fool satellite navigation. bully
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 May 2018 09: 59
    +6
    Navy personnel again started to master astronomical navigation
    It turns out that they were digitized to such an extent and fattened on progress that the cadets stopped teaching the basics of navigation? They have artillerymen and infantrymen can not do without satellite imagery and a computer to calculate the shooting data. Ours begin with the basics (compass, ruler, arithmetic) and then switch to electronic means. Therefore, it is not a problem for them if the computer grunts.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 10: 04
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      if the computer grunts

      And he grunts, "in which case," with almost one hundred percent probability yes
  9. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 4 May 2018 10: 02
    +7
    Exactly. Let them learn to use the sextant, MAE tables. BUT first you need to teach them to sharpen pencils ...
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 4 May 2018 10: 09
      +5
      BUT first you need to teach them to sharpen pencils ...
      About pencils well seen. And with thousandths of fingers to determine, measure the distance in scabs, and the sides of the horizon by certain signs. But apparently, they will take much more time to do this than to master poking a finger at the keyboard.
      1. cedar
        cedar 4 May 2018 12: 14
        0
        Another sharpener has not grown ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 13: 53
          0
          Quote: cedar
          Another sharpener has not grown ...

          From a joke: ... the saw said - "Well, then, well!" - and cut the cedar. "U damn it," said the Severe Siberian Guys ...
          Inspired request
          1. Romulus
            Romulus 4 May 2018 14: 31
            0
            Quote: Golovan Jack

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            Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 13:53 ↑
            Quote: cedar
            Another sharpener has not grown ...

            From the joke:

            Jack I'm in the ban but all the scribe ...
        2. Romulus
          Romulus 4 May 2018 14: 25
          0
          Quote: cedar

          0
          cedar (Eugene) Today, 12:14 ↑
          More sharpener has not grown ..

          Suverinet Russia Putin
          Will you allow the citizens of the Russian Federation a question?
    2. gippernano
      gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 13
      +2
      It was ours with pencils that flew into space, and these millions had to be spent on a pen writing in space. It’s easier for them to build 10 avionics than to teach one Mexican Morse. Since reading and writing, not every teacher can do it. Look, such a teacher managed to work for 40 years at school before he was exposed.
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  10. Altona
    Altona 4 May 2018 10: 23
    +2
    Therefore, the watch does not cancel in the army, so that by the position of the sun and the hands on the watch at least determine the cardinal points. Initially navigate the terrain at least.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 May 2018 10: 39
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      Therefore, the watch does not cancel in the army, so that by the position of the sun and the hands on the watch at least determine the cardinal points. Initially navigate the terrain at least.

      You still tell them why a bezel is needed. sad
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 4 May 2018 14: 33
        0
        Quote: Mordvin 3

        2
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir ...) Today, 10:39 ↑
        Quote: Altona
        Therefore, the watch does not cancel in the army, so that by the position of the sun and the hands on the watch at least determine the cardinal points. Initially navigate the terrain at least.

        You tell them more


        You are a beauty Mordvin !! see you)))
  11. Vard
    Vard 4 May 2018 10: 37
    0
    It seems that after Cook met with the Khibiny, the Americans began to reach ... that in the next war they would fight with stone axes ...
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 17
      0
      In the next war they will not fight, we will fight them.
  12. Galleon
    Galleon 4 May 2018 10: 40
    +1
    I would like to say a word in support of the sailors, no matter what flag they may be. I hope that US sailors love the sea, like any sailors. But as quite prosperous people have pleasure boats and yachts (he himself observed such a yachtsman at the weekend at the American base of La Valletta in Sardinia). And for a yachtsman at sea, a sextan and accurate hours are enough, he will find latitude and longitude. Well, just where to put the coordinates, if there are no paper maps? In extreme cases, they will ask the “passerby” where they are, not to get lost. The main thing is that planes and precision weapons get lost, and sailors can return home.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2018 10: 46
      +4
      Quote: Galleon
      and sailors can return home.


      like barmalei ... on buses ... repeat repeat
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 4 May 2018 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        like barmalei ... on buses ...

        Interesting idea! laughing
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 4 May 2018 13: 07
        +2
        Quote: vorobey
        like barmalei ... on buses ... feel

        Duc, Mujahideen ... laughing Just now, one four-star reported. Okay, here’s a fit for them:
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 May 2018 13: 22
          +4
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Okay, here’s a fit for them:


          it's gorgeous chaz chur ... Sanya from the beginning let them start ...

          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 4 May 2018 13: 27
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            let them start with the basics ...

            Yes, the namesake, perhaps ... The basics are the basics. To start, draw the fields. wassat
  13. cedar
    cedar 4 May 2018 10: 45
    +1
    The navigator also said that Navy personnel again began to master astronomical navigation. Yes, only such efforts, according to him, will not bring any benefit, since “Ships do not have paper maps”

    This is the main military secret of the striped bourgeois ...
    I wonder how paper cards are in the land, bourgeois troops ..?
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 4 May 2018 12: 20
      0
      The issue has already been resolved, the guys from the forum are copying cards from the white-channel channel cigarette. We’ll even raise small business here
  14. Kerensky
    Kerensky 4 May 2018 10: 59
    +1
    crew reduction

    Here are the keywords! Few people - little strength. The concept "by the forces of the crew" is melting for the sake of another, - "only in the service center" ...
    Where are the latrines clogged there? When the crew was removed, and factory specialists landed ...
  15. lopvlad
    lopvlad 4 May 2018 11: 23
    +1
    Uri, Uri, where is his button?


    almost everywhere. Strike what you want.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 May 2018 12: 05
    0
    In short, in the event of a serious mess and the loss of satellite navigation, this fleet in the ocean will be lost forever!
  17. Altona
    Altona 4 May 2018 12: 08
    0
    Quote: Ingvar0401
    BUT first you need to teach them to sharpen pencils ...

    ---------------------
    This is a complex art, I have been sharpening since childhood ...))