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Announced the imminent flight of the Russian cosmonaut to the moon

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RIA News with reference to a source in the rocket and space industry, reports that in 2024, the Russian cosmonaut can go to the Moon. At the same time, it is stated that the flight is likely to take place on the American spacecraft Orion. The material states that the Russian will be engaged in work on the installation of the Russian airlock in the framework of the program to create a near-moon orbital station.


It is noted that a couple of weeks ago, an international working group meeting was held in Houston, which developed a plan for the future flight to the Moon. The issues of technical standards that need to be implemented at the future near-moon station were discussed.
RIA News reports that the relevant agreements of intent between Russia and the United States were signed last year.

Announced the imminent flight of the Russian cosmonaut to the moon


From the material:
As part of the negotiations, sketches of future manned missions to the near-moon station were made. Among other things, the possibility of the flight of one Russian cosmonaut as part of the Orion crew, which tows the Russian airlock to the Moon, is being discussed. The Russian cosmonaut will have to ensure on-site integration of the module into the station (...) In addition, negotiations are underway to include another Russian cosmonaut in another crew, but they are in the very initial stage.


RSC Energia confirms this information.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 4 May 2018 06: 52
    +38
    April 1 seems to be over .. Although you know .. It’s a pity that it’s not on your ship ... Maybe it’s better to cooperate with the Chinese?
    1. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 4 May 2018 06: 57
      +13
      Quote: 210ox
      April 1 seems to be over .. Although you know .. It’s a pity that it’s not on your ship ... Maybe it’s better to cooperate with the Chinese?

      But are they going to pay us to build something for them in space?
      1. 210ox
        210ox 4 May 2018 06: 59
        +12
        Pay? An interesting question ... As I understand it, it is all about a presentation and a buffet in Houston ...
        Quote: K0
        Quote: 210ox
        April 1 seems to be over .. Although you know .. It’s a pity that it’s not on your ship ... Maybe it’s better to cooperate with the Chinese?

        But are they going to pay us to build something for them in space?
        1. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 4 May 2018 07: 27
          +7
          Quote: 210ox
          Pay? An interesting question ... As I understand it, it is all about a presentation and a buffet in Houston ...
          Quote: K0
          Quote: 210ox
          April 1 seems to be over .. Although you know .. It’s a pity that it’s not on your ship ... Maybe it’s better to cooperate with the Chinese?

          But are they going to pay us to build something for them in space?

          Five points for comment!
          Nobody has yet canceled the Van Allen belt, so about flying to the moon, with current technology, this is nonsense!
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 4 May 2018 07: 36
            +15
            I do not see a single gram of sensationalism in this news. In 2017, an agreement was concluded between NASA and Roscosmos on the construction of a near-moon station. They wrote about this many times. Russia will own only one module, the rest is almost all American. Now they are slowly starting to agree on previously signed declarations. Space departments continue to cooperate no matter what. And it is right.
            1. Oden280
              Oden280 4 May 2018 09: 29
              +21
              There is nothing right about this. This "cooperation" allows these "partners" to save money on non-critical developments while developing their core ones, which we will not be allowed to enter. At the same time, our space program will stand still, gradually lagging behind the Americans even more. In the end, everything will be like with the ISS. We are in the role of cab drivers and facility maintenance workers, managers from Roscosmos are sawing kickbacks, and others are getting results.
              1. JonnyT
                JonnyT 4 May 2018 09: 46
                +10
                Hmm, in the American slaves Roskosmos came. The Russian cosmonaut will mount everything there, assemble the station, and the American astronauts will scream, hey stupid Vanya, quickly fix our toilet, John broke it again, and the astronaut will obediently go to rake American shit out of the pipes, for the contract for "joint exploration of space by humanity."
                1. Merold
                  Merold 4 May 2018 09: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  Hmm, in the American slaves Roskosmos came. The Russian cosmonaut will mount everything there, assemble the station, and the American astronauts will scream, hey stupid Vanya, quickly fix our toilet, John broke it again, and the astronaut will obediently go to rake American shit out of the pipes, for the contract for "joint exploration of space by humanity."

                  It is difficult to imagine more terrible delirium.
                  1. krot
                    krot 4 May 2018 10: 35
                    +7
                    If this is not a duck, shameful news ..
                    1. Peace Resident
                      Peace Resident 5 May 2018 11: 24
                      +1
                      What is shameful here? Space must be mastered, at least somehow.
                  2. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 4 May 2018 11: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: Merold
                    It is difficult to imagine more terrible delirium.

                    "I know this solution, it’s always such a arrival ..." (c) wassat
              2. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 4 May 2018 11: 32
                +2
                Quote: Oden280
                There is nothing right about this. This "cooperation" allows these "partners" to save money on non-critical developments while developing their core ones, which we will not be allowed to enter. At the same time, our space program will stand still, gradually lagging behind the Americans even more. In the end, everything will be like with the ISS. We are in the role of cab drivers and facility maintenance workers, managers from Roscosmos are sawing kickbacks, and others are getting results.


                they already tried to get ours to work in American spacesuits request
                how is space different from military industry ?? for some reason, in the arms industry, the question of using imports is not worth it, at least in areas that are not critical to national security ... China has put a space bolt on everyone and is stubbornly striving into space itself. and here ... prosp (r) ali in the 90s space successes of the USSR through their own fault, well, now can you neatly align everything ??
          2. Sibiriya
            Sibiriya 4 May 2018 08: 24
            0
            Scientists against myths google the latter, there in detail what was what was not and why the testes did not curl.
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          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 08: 00
            +5
            Hello my friend ! hi drinks
            Quote: hrych
            But now they will begin to fire up our space program, expose the hated regime, etc.

            Very likely . Note: mattresses on the ISS fly on Soyuz and at the same time do not blame their glavnyuk for being "sent".
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 4 May 2018 08: 28
              +1
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Note: mattresses on the ISS fly on Soyuz and at the same time do not blame their glavnyuk for being "sent".

              oh yes they don't give a damn about it. the most important thing for them is that we influence the elections everywhere
              Hi Pavel hi
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 08: 29
                0
                Sergei hi
                Quote: LSA57
                the most important thing for them is that we influence the elections everywhere

                Favorite tactics of mattresses: to blame for what they themselves sin.
            2. hrych
              hrych 4 May 2018 08: 31
              +3
              Hi Paul! drinks hi soldier
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              mattresses on the ISS fly on Soyuz and at the same time do not blame their glavnyuk for "all-out"

              So after all, Russia has a gas station that produces 10 million barrels a day, but the United States does not, a beacon of democracy and wisdom, produces only 9 million barrels a day. We didn’t learn how to work with titanium, after 50 years we were able to make a Merlin engine similar to ours, and it’s kind of cool, although we again ordered the RD-180 laughing
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 4 May 2018 08: 39
                +4
                Quote: hrych
                We didn’t learn how to work with titanium, after 50 years we were able to make a Merlin engine similar to ours, and it’s kind of cool, although we again ordered the RD-180

                Yeah, that does not stop them from calling us savages and barbarians. yes
              2. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 4 May 2018 12: 49
                0
                Marilyn is not an analogue of the RD-180; these are very different engines. Both LVs on the Marlins and LVs on the RD-180 are launched by different companies.
                1. Filxnumx
                  Filxnumx 4 May 2018 19: 36
                  0
                  Yes, you’re right “Marilyn is not an analog of RD-180,” it is an analog of RD-108, an open circuit, without afterburning of a GG.
        3. Sergey ippon
          Sergey ippon 4 May 2018 09: 09
          0
          yeah) and at our expense wassat
        4. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx 4 May 2018 14: 02
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Pay? An interesting question ... As I understand it, it is all about a presentation and a buffet in Houston ...

          already written about it. we are talking about the program of the Americans, for the implementation of which contractors from various space agencies are involved. if they build something for the amers, they are paid for it. I don’t see a reason for irony, an ordinary business.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 May 2018 10: 55
        +1
        Quote: K0
        But are they going to pay us to build something for them in space?

        They wanted to buy gateway production technology from us, but in the light of recent events with sanctions, ours stopped cooperation with the United States in nuclear energy and on some issues of cooperation in space, including a ban on the transfer of technology for the production and installation of gateways.
    2. Hammerlock
      Hammerlock 4 May 2018 07: 03
      +8
      Maybe it's better to cooperate with the Chinese?

      dubious cooperation. We’ll get dogged with amers, but everything is clear there, but you have to be very careful with the Khunkhuzes
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      2. viralig
        viralig 4 May 2018 09: 47
        +1
        So after all, the agreement was signed with the Chinese on the joint exploration of deep space, and the Americans, by the way, tested the new portable nuclear reactor Kilopower designed for the Martian mission, which by the way will not prevent him from shoving it into the lunar base. They have tested a large version of this reactor with an output of 10 kW at maximum power, while more compact ones are not yet capable of producing enough energy. But this is a matter of time - they have enough finance.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 4 May 2018 10: 59
          +2
          Quote: viralig
          and the Americans, by the way, tested the new Kilopower portable nuclear reactor designed for the Martian mission, which by the way will not prevent him from shoving him into the lunar base.

          They just tested it, and our mini-reactor has already been tested and is mounted on a rocket that can fly indefinitely and their entire European missile defense has been reset.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 4 May 2018 12: 54
            0
            These are completely different things. They successfully tested the rocket analogue in the Pluto project. Before the appearance of ICBMs
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 4 May 2018 07: 19
      +6
      The Chinese do not have Hollywood.
    4. Wendigo
      Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 38
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      .Maybe better to cooperate with the Chinese?

      And they will have to, for the presence of Russia in the American project is absolutely pointless.
      I am sure they will soon be asked to leave.
      And China will do just fine without Russia, so you have to sweat to break it.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 4 May 2018 08: 29
        0
        Quote: Wendigo
        And they will have to, for the presence of Russia in the American project is absolutely pointless.

        exactly the opposite
      2. Merold
        Merold 4 May 2018 14: 09
        0
        Quote: Wendigo
        Quote: 210ox
        .Maybe better to cooperate with the Chinese?

        And they will have to, for the presence of Russia in the American project is absolutely pointless.

        Why is it pointless?
    5. Vova Kabaev
      Vova Kabaev 4 May 2018 07: 55
      +9
      The worse the life of the people, the brighter the tales.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 4 May 2018 08: 12
        +2
        About the clones on the moon, the movie "Moon 2112" was shot, it is necessary for amerikosy to somehow clean up their great falsification on lunar flights in the last century, and our people have already been drawn into the "witnesses" of their "dusty traces" on the moon, become accomplices in the new rogue epics from Hollywood.
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 4 May 2018 09: 17
        +3
        Worse is the life of a nation? American?
        One half of your howls that only one astronaut, an American station. The other half howls that people are dying of hunger, and they tell him tales about space.
        And the refrain you howl together in chorus - leave the damned power of crooks and thieves.
        I am sure that if Russia began to build its own station, you would sing about hungry pensioners.
    6. askort154
      askort154 4 May 2018 08: 02
      0
      210qu .....Maybe it's better to cooperate with the Chinese?

      With us, all astronauts will run away if they are forced to learn Chinese. No.
      1. Patriot5000
        Patriot5000 4 May 2018 10: 20
        0
        My son is learning Chinese. also english and french. there is nothing complicated in chinese. although I don’t understand anything.
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 4 May 2018 08: 34
      +12
      The problem of Roscosmos is that there is no clear and clear development program. They are labeled as women.
      Announce the clowns what you want at last.
      1. Station on the moon
      2. Flight to Mars
      3.National orbital station
      other options
      Gather the remnants of the brain and work and do not cut the budget.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 May 2018 08: 55
        +2
        We can be thrown out of this Lunar project until the age of 24.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 4 May 2018 10: 03
          +1
          Announced the imminent flight of the Russian cosmonaut to the moon
          as a teenager, he loved science fiction, but now he somehow cooled down to her ...
      2. ochakow703
        ochakow703 5 May 2018 07: 51
        0
        I applaud while standing! All of our current space programs are aimed at cutting money. A living (more precisely, a little lively) example is the Vostochny spaceport.
    8. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
      Vladimir Ter-Odiyants 4 May 2018 15: 48
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Maybe better with the Chinese

      Our neighbors, lovers of noodles. Your casmonafts will quickly get bored with any kind of Noodle fans fellow
  2. svp67
    svp67 4 May 2018 06: 52
    +26
    At the same time, it is stated that the flight will probably take place on the American Orion spaceship.
    Hello to Mr. Rogozin and his trampolines ...
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 4 May 2018 07: 00
      +11
      Space is one of the industries that should be out of politics. But here I agree with you, cap-hatred The mask predictably turned into Rogozin's diarrhea. And this is still blue origin did not start commercial flights.
      1. Ushly_bashkort
        Ushly_bashkort 4 May 2018 07: 19
        +8
        They said the same thing about sports. In order for space to be outside politics, it is necessary that all people in a single impulse overcome their differences on Earth, and then in the same single impulse rush to explore space.
      2. hrych
        hrych 4 May 2018 07: 26
        +6
        Quote: Nix1986
        hat-making The mask predictably turned into Rogozin's diarrhea

        So far, only your imagination has broken out. There is no carrier for flights, there is no ship for flights, there is no trained crew, there is no such experience, Kubrick then died laughing We sat, talked, ate taxpayers' money. Are you already aroused here laughing
        1. Ushly_bashkort
          Ushly_bashkort 4 May 2018 07: 48
          +9
          Well, that is, Mask doesn’t fly rockets and everything is shot in Hollywood? Ukram then do not be like.
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 4 May 2018 08: 07
            +3
            Of course, all this is a studio of the 20th century, and Musk is a make-up Schwartz laughing
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 4 May 2018 08: 45
            0
            Oh, you! Cunning, and they believed the Mask. laughing
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 May 2018 08: 57
              +1
              They believed - because it shows in practice what works - we are waiting for his BFR.
            2. Ushly_bashkort
              Ushly_bashkort 4 May 2018 09: 18
              0
              Questions of faith in the church need to be addressed, as they say) There is a fact that they fly rockets, what is there and how it is sawing Musk and the rest I'm not very interested.
    2. Ushly_bashkort
      Ushly_bashkort 4 May 2018 07: 21
      +4
      On Twitter, it’s easier to write funny comments than to work.
    3. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 4 May 2018 07: 28
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      At the same time, it is stated that the flight will probably take place on the American Orion spaceship.
      Hello to Mr. Rogozin and his trampolines ...

      Rogozin in this post thanks to the pope, and not to personal merits to the Fatherland! Further comment is unnecessary!
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 4 May 2018 11: 26
        0
        Quote: Oleg147741
        Quote: svp67
        At the same time, it is stated that the flight will probably take place on the American Orion spaceship.
        Hello to Mr. Rogozin and his trampolines ...

        Rogozin in this post thanks to the pope, and not to personal merits to the Fatherland! Further comment is unnecessary!

        Right. Shoot Rogozin, disperse the military-industrial complex. Urya !!!
    4. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 05
      0
      Is your memory short? Rogozin spoke about the Amer trampolines. not about your own. And ours work and not bad. Americans still use them. And the prodigies presented in March are also an example of the work of departments subordinate to Rogozin. Do not agree with this?
  3. Stoler
    Stoler 4 May 2018 06: 55
    +15
    On Earth, all things have been redone, it’s time to take care of the Moon !! laughing
    1. Mussasi
      Mussasi 4 May 2018 08: 34
      0
      On Earth, you can never redo all things! As you know, civilizations are developing expansively, most of which remains to improve existing lands, others leave to discover and develop new ones, this is how a person works. Therefore, the first moon, then Mars with its terraforming and so on ... hi
  4. Nix1986
    Nix1986 4 May 2018 06: 57
    +2
    One thing comes to mind - It's time.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 May 2018 07: 01
      +7
      What time is it long? Work for the Amerzians ?!
      Quote: Nix1986
      One thing comes to mind - It's time.
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 41
        +11
        Quote: 210ox
        What time is it long? Work for the Amerzians ?!

        In general, I wonder how Russia got there ...
        Orem from all the irons that they were not on the moon. Orem that they are our enemies and only want to ruin us, destroy us. And here it is ..
        I'm worried about the brain of urapatriots, no matter how it detonates from dissonance. wassat
        1. Merold
          Merold 4 May 2018 07: 55
          +5
          Quote: Wendigo

          I'm worried about the brain of urapatriots, no matter how it detonates from dissonance. wassat

          What are you worried about? For the brain?
          1. the lord
            the lord 12 May 2018 18: 09
            0
            And Wendigo is always worried about things unknown to them, something that’s not there, it jumped ... however, like you))))))
        2. Mestny
          Mestny 4 May 2018 09: 30
          -1
          Worry about yours.
          What are you yelling there is not interesting to anyone.
          Everything is more complicated than in your heads, washed by Maidan manuals. It happens so, the more we are talking about space.
          But it is thought to tell you something and to explain it is useless - the reinforced concrete brain casting will not suffer anyway.
        3. the lord
          the lord 12 May 2018 18: 08
          0
          So you exposed your lack of brain. At that time, they really did not fly. Now the technology is more or less developed, we try together. Ava will remain a stranger at this celebration of life, since Wendigo. not a man)))) Although there is still a fear. that all this camarilla can be covered with a copper basin when faced with a reality about which the Americans still do not know)))))
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 4 May 2018 07: 03
      +12
      Quote: Nix1986
      One thing comes to mind - It's time.

      One thing comes to mind - let our government be taken there, according to our acquaintance, in one direction.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 4 May 2018 07: 05
        +3
        Quote: lis-ik
        One thing comes to mind - let our government be taken there by acquaintance in one direction.

        Lunatic will be against.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 May 2018 07: 11
          +3
          No one promised to feed ... Have to "hold on.".
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: lis-ik
          One thing comes to mind - let our government be taken there by acquaintance in one direction.

          Lunatic will be against.
      2. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 4 May 2018 07: 29
        +2
        Quote: lis-ik
        Quote: Nix1986
        One thing comes to mind - It's time.

        One thing comes to mind - let our government be taken there, according to our acquaintance, in one direction.

        Not a sales dream of the people. Yes! And the deputies there too!
      3. Sergey ippon
        Sergey ippon 4 May 2018 09: 20
        0
        not, let them seize the Amertz government)
        in the community, so to speak, and an additional ballast of all oligarchs, so that it’s not boring!
        and let them build stations for the mother of the earth, blocks for future development.
        at least something useful for earthlings will do.
        Russian, American, Ukrainian, German, etc. -you are who it is on this submarine -You are Earthlings and that’s it.
        So no, you have to create thousands of kings, their servants, borders and fight, take, share ....
        as if someone specifically does this, pushing this misunderstanding for thousands of years.
  5. andrewkor
    andrewkor 4 May 2018 07: 02
    +2
    It would be better if the money spent for the sake of ephemeral prestige would be given to pensioners!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 May 2018 07: 06
      +3
      Even if they give it back (oh my god, what nonsense!) ... Do you think that they will come !? request
      Quote: andrewkor
      It would be better if the money spent for the sake of ephemeral prestige would be given to pensioners!
    2. Volodin
      Volodin 4 May 2018 07: 07
      +4
      Quote: andrewkor
      It would be better if the money spent for the sake of ephemeral prestige would be given to pensioners!

      Pensioners need help, of course. But taking into account the cost of Russian participation in this program, it goes somewhere in 850 rubles per pensioner ...
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 4 May 2018 08: 38
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: andrewkor
        It would be better if the money spent for the sake of ephemeral prestige would be given to pensioners!
        Pensioners need help, of course. But taking into account the cost of Russian participation in this program, it goes somewhere in 850 rubles per pensioner ...

        Then it is necessary to take away from each pensioner 850, for the exploration of the moon. This is a more realistic option. And then the astronauts are sitting idle. Then Mars.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 May 2018 09: 00
          +1
          "Then Mars" - Roscosmos already put a price tag on the flight there, 4,5 trillion rubles until the 2040th.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 4 May 2018 07: 07
      +6
      Retired people will simply eat them! It is better to do the industrialization of the country, rather than wait for investors from around the world.
    4. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon 4 May 2018 09: 46
      +1
      No, it’s better to treat sick children for free, as we collect rogue people by SMS.
      this is a shame - and they sing about space exploration ..
      although the development will be 100%!
      But not so much space, how much dough on the pocket. bully
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 4 May 2018 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Retired people will simply eat them!

        1. the lord
          the lord 12 May 2018 18: 12
          0
          Why is there a teddy bear in the photo, and the words offal?
    5. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 11
      0
      Set an example - give your
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 4 May 2018 07: 03
    +7
    Well, let's see. Particularly pleasing is the flight on an Amer ship: either they will forget to take our flyer on board, or in space they will put him overboard for politically incorrect behavior.
    If you fly, then with a guarantee and on your own pepelats.
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 4 May 2018 07: 08
      +1
      If the act of receiving the lock chamber after installation is signed, they will bring it back, perhaps!
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 35
        +1
        Quote: Sergey985
        If the act of receiving the airlock

        By the way, the lock chamber will be American!
        1. SEER
          SEER 4 May 2018 07: 52
          +1
          Quote: Wendigo
          Quote: Sergey985
          If the act of receiving the airlock

          By the way, the lock chamber will be American!

          when will your brown end?
          1. Wendigo
            Wendigo 4 May 2018 08: 00
            +3
            Quote: SEER
            when will your brown end?

            And here is brownish?
            It was decided that Russia will not do its own gateway, that is, not according to its standards, but according to American ones.
            Which is logical because the planned "share" of Russia at the station is quite small and that other participants would not depend on it
            This is just a statement of fact ..
            1. SEER
              SEER 4 May 2018 08: 12
              0
              Quote: Wendigo
              Quote: SEER
              when will your brown end?

              And here is brownish?

              because it is brown and smells bad ...
            2. the lord
              the lord 12 May 2018 18: 14
              0
              And for a long time, if not by its own standards, but by strangers, but by itself, has it been done, is it not its own? Here. by golly, wendigo doesn't have a brain, not at all)))))))
  7. Nelepost
    Nelepost 4 May 2018 07: 05
    +7
    Will fly as a fitter? And the second one, probably, which module to fasten, and then they will tell us: "thanks for the technology and installation, you are free"
  8. A good one
    A good one 4 May 2018 07: 08
    +6
    The technologies are developing, the future lies ahead, maybe something is masked under this program, everything can be.
  9. cat Baiyun.
    cat Baiyun. 4 May 2018 07: 11
    +6
    And will they fly on their engines or will they buy RD-180 from Russia again?
    By the way, I do not believe that the Americans were on the moon ... request
    1. Wendigo
      Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 47
      +3
      Quote: baiun cat.
      And will they fly on their engines or will they buy RD-180 from Russia again?

      Who are they?
      Have you ever tasted to whom your engines were sold?
      America? not! The State Department? also no! maybe nasa? not!
      You sold the engines of only one PRIVATE COMPANY of which there were many in America then and now you can’t count them at all.
      1. slipped
        slipped 4 May 2018 13: 02
        0
        two companies
    2. Wendigo
      Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 49
      +4
      Quote: baiun cat.
      By the way, I do not believe that the Americans were on the moon ..

      Well ... it’s one of the most important bonds, it must be defended to the last good
      1. the lord
        the lord 12 May 2018 18: 16
        0
        The main thing for you is to hold onto the opposite for the last. And then after all, shame and shame will not embrace)))))
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 4 May 2018 08: 19
      +6
      They will fly on the most powerful and most expensive (500 million - 1 launch) SLS rocket. Everything is there. And engines with RS-25 from the shuttle redone, and boosters from there. And still the price tag broke through the Oort cloud. wassat The program itself has already eaten 31 billion of the 35 allocated and another 7 billion will most likely be knocked out of Congress.



      The sadness for those rockets - which are delivered by the RDs in that - is that their role is the maximum minibus to the ISS and it’s hard to pull Tsingus loaded with different ones more than 2,8t. At the same time, the rocket from the Japanese (Japanese! Moreover, from Tanegashima - far from an optimal launch) - pulls Kounotori, similar in architecture, with a load in the 6,8t to the ISS.
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 4 May 2018 11: 20
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        The program itself has already eaten 31 billion of the 35 allocated and another 7 billion will most likely be knocked out of Congress.

        Nasa is the same poop as Roskosmos, and even worse.
        Launch market share when was the last time you watched?
        Mask has already exceeded 60%. In America, private traders are already competing with each other, not with Nasa, not with Roskosmos, but with each other. hi
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 4 May 2018 11: 29
          0
          SLS makes private traders ULA - this is Boeing + Lockheed. It’s just that they have a strong lobby and they are sitting on federal orders and private investments.

          Mask, Bezos and other Orbitals are not allowed there (in the SLS Aerodzhet and Orbital made their way - but as contractors, with little participation).
      2. Aqr009
        Aqr009 4 May 2018 17: 17
        0
        ... pulls similar in Kounotori architecture ...

        Atlas diameter ~ 3 meters, H-IIB diameter ~ 5 meters ... request
    4. Evgeny Goncharov
      Evgeny Goncharov 4 May 2018 08: 25
      +5
      > By the way, I don't believe the Americans were on the moon ... request

      you are well done that your diagnosis is immediately voiced
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 4 May 2018 11: 03
        0
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov
        > By the way, I don't believe the Americans were on the moon ...
        you are well done that your diagnosis is immediately voiced
        There are a lot of us here, at least half. laughing
      2. the lord
        the lord 12 May 2018 18: 20
        0
        Of course, for fifty years, do not repeat what you once achieved, it's just such an excerpt .... from tungsten steel eggs))))))
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 May 2018 09: 03
      +1
      Fly on their own, you can no longer believe, but the fact remains, manned flights to the moon were.
      1. the lord
        the lord 12 May 2018 18: 22
        0
        The fact does not just remain a fact. It still needs to be proved. While the current is about to start, it’s only suctioned, it is completely unknown. But you believe, this is the main thing for you))))) I have to endure for half a century and not visit the moon. when it is already carried out, stoic exposure of the Olympic (read divine) scale)))))
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 May 2018 07: 14
    +3
    The "masters of promises" began a crisis of the genre. ... They have already virtually flown to Mars, now we are shooting the “Moon”.
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 4 May 2018 07: 20
    +2
    Russian in the carriage. Wangyu the rest of the crew; black, woman, Chinese, Some of them will be ... adherent of same-sex love. The flight will be fun.
    1. SOF
      SOF 4 May 2018 07: 28
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      ... black, woman, Chinese .... adherent of same-sex love ....

      .... no options .... or not to see them oscars like your ears ....
      1. Patriot5000
        Patriot5000 4 May 2018 10: 25
        0
        Yeah and Russian mafia
        1. the lord
          the lord 12 May 2018 18: 23
          0
          dill - from suicide bombers
  12. dragy52rus
    dragy52rus 4 May 2018 07: 23
    +2
    What is the practical meaning of the orbiting lunar station?
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 4 May 2018 07: 35
      +1
      Transshipment base for the flight to Mars .. Dock for the exploration of the moon ..
      1. dragy52rus
        dragy52rus 4 May 2018 07: 51
        +2
        For me there are three possible goals: ideological, economic and scientific. Ideological ceased to exist at the end of 80. Economic, only helium-3 on the surface, but thermonuclear energy is still in the experimental stage, scientific, it’s easier to send drones. Mars exploration sounds even more delusional, because you need to invent a bunch of everything from the engine to a compact long-playing energy source.
        the first stage in the development of near space should be a station in orbit of the earth, where conditions will be created for a full-fledged long-term stay of a large number of people.
    2. Wendigo
      Wendigo 4 May 2018 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: dragy52rus
      What is the practical meaning of the orbiting lunar station?

      The problem is that finding Russia in the project every day is more senseless.
      They will fly on their own, the airlock will also be American (literally).
      So far, Russia is being kept there by blat ... or rather for past merits.
      But looking at the current trend in relations with the West, I am sure that soon I will have to reel fishing rods from there.
      1. slipped
        slipped 4 May 2018 13: 04
        0
        figured it out myself? ))))
      2. the lord
        the lord 12 May 2018 18: 24
        0
        And again, they still need to fly, and you already thought up something about the Russian Federation there))))) Wendigo, you won’t be invited there))))
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 May 2018 07: 26
    0
    Either they fly, or not, and Rogozin has already passed to the government. And where is he this Orion, and where are these astronauts? The moon is there, but the rockets are not visible. winked
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 May 2018 09: 07
      +4
      "And where is he this Orion" - And here he is
      1. slipped
        slipped 4 May 2018 13: 06
        0
        this is a mockup presented in 2014, it is completely empty inside, only a shell.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 May 2018 16: 02
          +2
          Nice shell however
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 May 2018 00: 48
            +1
            yeah like that
            one prototype iron, only thermal protection was experimental, it was tested.
  14. Avis-bis
    Avis-bis 4 May 2018 07: 28
    +4
    the flight is likely to take place on the American Orion spaceship


    pee pee pee! sailed ...
  15. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 4 May 2018 07: 30
    +1
    Quote: andrewkor
    It would be better if the money spent for the sake of ephemeral prestige would be given to pensioners!

    HERE, about pensioners, I agree!
  16. Bok tubres
    Bok tubres 4 May 2018 07: 40
    0
    By 2024, the United States will no longer exist.
    So, no luck ...
    1. Evgeny Goncharov
      Evgeny Goncharov 4 May 2018 08: 40
      +2
      What will happen rot?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 4 May 2018 11: 06
        +1
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov
        What will happen rot?

        Drowning.
        1. Evgeny Goncharov
          Evgeny Goncharov 4 May 2018 22: 13
          0
          will we make bets?
      2. Bok tubres
        Bok tubres 4 May 2018 15: 12
        +1
        Will be renamed. Into the strait ...
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  18. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 4 May 2018 07: 49
    +1
    Sadness. But for now it’s better than nothing. Maybe over time we will tighten the economy and we ourselves will fly and build something.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 May 2018 09: 17
      0
      It will be when the price of oil reaches 140 bucks per barrel - then there will be enough money for all programs.
  19. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 4 May 2018 07: 53
    0
    Everything ends with space, natural resources and weapons remain. With weapons, the Americans seriously stick their sticks into the wheels, they do not shoot missile defense, they refuse to sign contracts, so oil and gas are again our everything. Americans, too, twist the channel as they want, and indeed, all of our offshore companies at will.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 4 May 2018 08: 43
      0
      At the same time, the Americans put a bolt on international law and turn it around as they want, while ours, together with Putin, observe everything according to the law no matter ... fool
  20. Vard
    Vard 4 May 2018 07: 55
    +1
    Somewhere somewhere we didn’t want to cut the dough ... Not a horse, not a cart ... but they were about to fly ... three times Ha ...
  21. cosmos-PS
    cosmos-PS 4 May 2018 08: 00
    +2
    It’s sad somehow. What prevents themselves from flying into space without amers? One was allowed to take !!!! Well, at least not a half. By their rules, they decided to play in the development of the moon and space in general? Losing option! Also ...... will be sent at the last moment.
    How much did you spend in Sochi? This is enough to prepare our lunar project and complete it. And competition to the Americans. It may not be the first, but not the essence. The main thing is that no one decides for themselves what to do and how to do it, development and development of their technologies, training of their personnel, believe me, this is not so expensive as they say. This is serious.
    And so, as we want, we are not the first, we are not the second or the third, we are a serving element, a servant of the master who is honored and honored in the exploration of the moon, but a reptile shame ....
    We bury both Russian cosmonautics and ourselves as a great people ...... fools!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 May 2018 08: 25
      +6
      Missing rocket. For Americans, the SLS test - already flies next year.

      Proton to the moon only a probe can be thrown. There is no human ship (especially on 5 people).

      The lack of a ship. At Americans on SLS test - Orion flies with telemetry flies. Here, the Federation is still mock-up and at the level of mining that Orion took place in 10-11.

      Lack of sane money. The Americans poured into the 35 billion rocket only and did not squeeze into the budget, now they are asking for another 7 billion (they will give out either by the next year or after the successful flight of the SLS test).
      1. Lunt
        Lunt 4 May 2018 08: 59
        +2
        All these programs are just a screen. Americans have long flown to the moon and Mars on ships using alien technology. Remember the photo of the shadow of a man near the rover.
      2. JonnyT
        JonnyT 4 May 2018 10: 01
        0
        Thanks to Rogozin and his super development of new engines for rockets, ships and other technologies, for the money received from transportation to the ISS and the sale of RD-180
      3. slipped
        slipped 4 May 2018 13: 08
        0
        The airlock can also be thrown by the Proton and the Angara - 5, but the astronaut using domestic equipment, for its maintenance and docking, will not work before 2028.
  22. Turgon
    Turgon 4 May 2018 08: 01
    +2
    If we are announced soon, then wait no earlier than in 2099.
  23. loki565
    loki565 4 May 2018 08: 03
    0
    Given the constant sanctions, making a joint project with the Americans is a utopia))) Or deliberate sabotage and embezzlement of money, in the event of the failure of the one who proposed this project, put 10 years off just in case)))
  24. Rijaz-ss
    Rijaz-ss 4 May 2018 08: 03
    +2
    where did all the cheer patriots go?
    1. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 32
      0
      Well, I'm here for example. Do you believe that they will fly and land? Well, they never did that. And even if all of a sudden that iron bed, which they called the landing-take-off module and cradled, then fifty years have passed since then with nothing to do regarding the exploration of the moon. She is already a virgin again. And you - believe. you're a cheer-liber or skakuas, you can like buoys and the red light)))))
  25. Abram
    Abram 4 May 2018 08: 11
    +1
    the news sounds more like: "The US is hiring a Russian cosmonaut-installer." Let's hope that the Russian module will not be the toilet of the base, otherwise the Russian toilet on the ISS is the best! winked
    1. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 35
      0
      Oh, and how are you so arrogantly speaking about the implementation of natural necessities away from your ecosystem! If something wrong happens there, then this same Russian toilet can become both a wardroom and headquarters. When pripret, there you will not turn away. That and look at our astronaut will also be made the head of the expedition. So, not ssy ...)))))
  26. In h
    In h 4 May 2018 08: 17
    +1
    We fly to the moon, plow the virgin soil,
    Than stick a big enema to evil imperialism ...
  27. In h
    In h 4 May 2018 08: 18
    +1
    Quote: In H
    We fly to the moon, plow the virgin soil,
    Than stick a big enema to evil imperialism ...
    We fly to the moon, plow the virgin soil,
    Than stick a big enema to evil imperialism.
    We’ll fly to Altair, and we’ll have a toilet there,
    And the war in the initial phase will choke in the toilet ..
  28. AID.S
    AID.S 4 May 2018 08: 30
    0
    Ha ha ha About thirty years ago I would have believed.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 May 2018 08: 45
      +1
      Well, SLS will be objective. Orion in the new edition will also be. Why not fly - congratulate Trampushka from the moon, call to vote for the person who made Mack Great Agagin!

      Another question is in real need. Yet again. If the ISS does pretty impressive scientific work. That is really digging resources on the moon is a matter of the distant future. Use it as an orbital assembly site for deep space missions. Perhaps, but the question is, why? They did the SLS — it went to Mars, Jupiter, and Titan, and even throws it at Alpha Centauri (well, how many thousands of years there have been flying at an achievable speed). To drag such expensive distant stations with something less to the moon - where to reconfigure them in orbit, fasten boosters and send them, well, this is a risk of losing the device. And for the price you still need to calculate the gain.

      In general, we are now at that stage - where an automatic station will make everything cheaper, better and safer.

      Examples?
      Cassini – Huygens is a champion, he collected more research data, made fundamental discoveries than the lunar program. The price of 3 billion with after-launch 20 summer support.
      Rosetta - even though Fila was unable to complete the program. The data partially turned our knowledge about comets. A huge research dataset - which remains to be processed. Issue price 1,2 billion
      Juneau - now conducts an extensive research mission at Jupiter, is already making discoveries.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 4 May 2018 09: 04
        +1
        There are very serious suspicions that there is nothing to "dig" on the Moon, since the object is more of an artificial origin. And besides, the parking seems to be busy. So, gentlemen, space tourists, there is no way to cook a “lunch” there.
  29. Click
    Click 4 May 2018 08: 34
    0
    So will this cosmonaut or installer lol
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 May 2018 13: 12
      0
      The flight specialist, as it was called on the Shuttle, flew 20 Russian cosmonauts, some several times. Shkolota does not know. )))
  30. Dormidont
    Dormidont 4 May 2018 08: 36
    0
    Russian astronaut on an American rocket ... Why not in Ukrainian?
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 May 2018 13: 13
      0
      But no and never will
  31. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 4 May 2018 08: 36
    +3
    They still take it, at the expense of past Soviet merits. Then this will not happen. One disgusting propaganda chatter will remain.
  32. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 May 2018 08: 50
    +1
    It will be necessary to give our Nagan --- you never know what ...)))
  33. Vadim237
    Vadim237 4 May 2018 08: 51
    +2
    "At the same time, it is stated that the flight is likely to take place on the American Orion spaceship." - This will be the basis of the complete fiasco of the Russian cosmonautics.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 4 May 2018 09: 37
      -2
      Flights to the ISS of American astronauts - are they a complete fiasco of the American cosmonautics?
      And if they aren’t, then with what fright will the flight of a Russian in an American ship be a fiasco?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 May 2018 11: 29
        0
        We drove - now they will carry us for the lack of the necessary ships and missiles, and this is a fiasco.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 May 2018 13: 18
          0
          Your fiasco is "bro", by then the Federation will dock to the ISS and the launch under super-heavy will be built on Vostochny and the rocket will be designed for it. Start on STK to the Moon - the year 2028.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 May 2018 16: 06
            0
            "You have a fiasco, bro, by then the Federation will dock to the ISS and the launch under super-tension will be built on Vostochny and the rocket will be designed for it." And in 2028 the budget cut and the new leadership of Roscosmos - with new programs, if they do something, it will be over the 30th year.
            1. slipped
              slipped 6 May 2018 00: 55
              0
              The new federal space program will be adopted in the year 2024. It will include what was postponed in the current program for the year 2025, namely the Lunar Program.
  34. Vasya Pupkin
    Vasya Pupkin 4 May 2018 08: 54
    0
    Kubrick died. How are you going to the moon? Lucas will replace Kubrick?
  35. Lunt
    Lunt 4 May 2018 08: 54
    +1
    But is it that the moon is already taken?
  36. shuravi
    shuravi 4 May 2018 08: 55
    +5
    Here it is the "cosmos" of modern Russia.

    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 May 2018 09: 25
      0
      For most wealthy people, including me - yes, this is "space."
  37. andrew42
    andrew42 4 May 2018 09: 00
    0
    High relations, high! Heh! - At any moment, our astronaut can fly with a flight in this scenario. Docks will swing along the gateway, and thanks, they are free.
  38. Technician72
    Technician72 4 May 2018 09: 15
    0
    Announced the imminent flight of the Russian astronaut to the moon.
    And back?
  39. True
    True 4 May 2018 09: 24
    +2
    Hahahaha. Che, on which missiles will we fly now? And what will Mr. Rogozin say about this? wassat
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 May 2018 13: 20
      0
      He will say that for 9 years (by 2024) we are already transporting Americans, it’s time we should give them a little debt
    2. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 43
      0
      Hahahaha, yes you are the same Petrosyan! I recognize kak.lov by the red flag they hate)))) But Rogozin will say, they were brave, they just forgot about radiation fields and about the necessary skills far from the Earth for landing, when installing the base. Here is the result, a mass grave. But we will fly a little later and build their station on their bones, but most likely with the Chinese)))))
  40. Dart
    Dart 4 May 2018 09: 31
    0
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Quote: hrych
    But now they will begin to fire up our space program, expose the hated regime, etc.

    Already a ribbon of paid and simply "stupid" (moron unfortunately does not pass, albeit a medical term what ) below. And your comments have already been rubbed ... mine is also short-lived. lol
  41. Mestny
    Mestny 4 May 2018 09: 34
    0
    Wow, how the trollin in the comments got aroused. Stank to the whole site. And the government was remembered, and the people dying of hunger, and Rogozin, and the children of officials - a complete set.
    But alas - standard. Expected to say so.
    Bored, girls. Tell the curators - you need to carefully compose the texts.
  42. Topotun
    Topotun 4 May 2018 09: 58
    +1
    Do we need it? Why the hell to drive the astronaut there? Is there little automation? It makes no sense from him, except perhaps to bend your fingers ... Maybe it is better to start working out the media at automatic stations?
  43. betta
    betta 4 May 2018 10: 01
    0
    Maybe ours are not going to the moon. They know that jokes are bad with radiation.
  44. DPN
    DPN 4 May 2018 10: 01
    +3
    Yes, SOVIET POWER has sunk into the abyss when a country called the USSR could afford all this without a Yankee. Now all that remains is to hope for the kindness of these Yankees, maybe they will give them a lift to the Moon, because during the holidays we close the Mausoleum of V.I. Lenin and sometimes dare to be called the successor of the USSR when it comes to VICTORY in the Second World War in 1945. But RUSSIA has only 1/15 of this victory. The USSR is 15 union republics and it is the merit of LENIN. CH. MAUSOLEUM! Now we’re closing vilely, let’s compare the 1945 parade and today's parody.
  45. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 4 May 2018 10: 05
    0
    In fact, everything is logical, the Americans are curtailing the financing of the ISS project and will build VOCs, ours have nothing to do with financing (and indeed with long-term plans for space exploration), and either disconnect their modules from the ISS and make a mini-Russian station similar to the WORLD or join the Americans in the construction of their Lunar Station, but whether we need a big question there ... and if NASA cannot interest us in anything, then our astronaut may not fly to the “installation of the Russian airlock compartment”, there is no firm contract yet, yes and installation will most likely be by American standards, they can do without us at all.
  46. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 4 May 2018 10: 24
    +2
    It’s funny, Russian satellites often do not reach 70% of imported electronics to orbit, and that one shuffled to the moon
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 May 2018 13: 23
      +2
      Funny, the ISS has been hanging over your head with astronauts for 17 years, but you haven’t noticed it.
      1. Yodzakura
        Yodzakura 4 May 2018 13: 24
        +1
        Already from anger at the person, the ISS there is not only the Russian module, but also the imported electronics in the Russian module
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 May 2018 13: 40
          +1
          Yes, she is imported all over the world, it’s also said in the movie Armageddon))))), I must remember, shkolota only knows about cosmonautics from such films.
        2. True
          True 4 May 2018 14: 48
          +3
          Quote: Yodzakura
          Already from anger at the person

          And with Zaputinians it’s like hello. The sect that you want from them.
          P. S. Rights was silver coins ...
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 May 2018 01: 00
            +1
            Oh, the basement man drew, scat for the lessons to learn
        3. the lord
          the lord 12 May 2018 18: 46
          0
          Where is it up to your personality touched? Or does the ISS not fly over your head?
  47. cedar
    cedar 4 May 2018 10: 26
    0
    By 2024, we should have a sovereign ruble, a loan, a printing press, and as a result, our own space station, a heavy rocket carrier, and a program for the study and exploration of outer space, in particular the Moon.
    Sovereignty, Russia. Putin!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 May 2018 11: 30
      +1
      A heavy launch vehicle, if it appears, is not until the 30th year.
      1. cedar
        cedar 4 May 2018 15: 06
        +1
        Yes, at least 40th. The main thing is to get rid of the masters of the unipolar world and, as a result, create your own COP, then more ...
        And let the crazy states fly at least to the moon, at least ... they have already made their way there, so let them joke around. Mask to help them ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 May 2018 16: 09
          +1
          They did us on the seas and oceans, and now they will make the space sphere.
          1. the lord
            the lord 12 May 2018 18: 48
            0
            Prospekt- where is there who gave someone? Or cannot our fleet get out of territorial waters? You there stumbler with a burner do not bother
    2. Nix1986
      Nix1986 4 May 2018 16: 45
      +2
      get well laughing
      1. the lord
        the lord 12 May 2018 18: 50
        0
        Do not die yourself)))) But do not overdo it, evolution will be on hand
  48. gukoyan
    gukoyan 4 May 2018 10: 43
    0
    Phahha, thanks neighing)))
    Although today is Friday, in the morning they began to thump in RIA ... Here they can’t put things in order in the country, but they’ve already gathered on the moon)))
    1. the lord
      the lord 12 May 2018 18: 50
      0
      And why do we need news from the ruin? Stop complaining, we won’t help
  49. DeusExMachina
    DeusExMachina 4 May 2018 10: 48
    +2
    Not very positive information.
    However, if the USA really leaves us behind, then even in space English will become the "dominant" language, which, of course, is not worth it
  50. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 May 2018 10: 55
    0
    Judging by the picture, there will also be a Ukrainian spaceonaut. Someone will need to build a dugout.