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The art of holding a state break

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The wisdom of the ruler is not to be led by momentary emotions and fleeting moods, but to make such decisions, for which in the future will not be ashamed.




I remember well how many more recently there were misunderstandings and even a frank stench at the Russian leadership from the unruly Internet community about Moscow’s “indecisive, unprincipled and cowardly” position in the situation with the seizure of the Russian vessel Nord and its crew by the Ukrainian authorities.

The demands of the outraged public to immediately take radical measures, including the assault by the Russian special forces of the Ukrainian SIZO, where Russian sailors were held, literally flooded with social networks. At the same time, the “boiling mind” of the thirsting for instant revenge from the public, it seems, didn’t take into account at all that during this epic assault, the saved people and many others would probably have died. And this is despite the fact that, even with the worst case scenario, we honestly admit that the lives of the crew members captured by the Ukrainian national bullies did not threaten. A fine or jail sentence is the maximum that they have shone even in the present Ukraine that has gone crazy.

And so “Golden Grove dissuaded”, boiled over “outraged mind”, and the public had new reasons for extreme concern. The same Armenia, for example. Yes, and with the crew of the "Nord" situation is almost normalized after its transfer into the hands of Russian diplomats. In general, the topic clearly went somewhere on the periphery of public attention. For which our Internet extremes fit to put a minus count on the subject “Protection of Russian State Dignity”. And really! At first, Russia, at their request, should have almost started a full-scale war with Ukraine. And then they just gave up on this historywhich by itself was almost discharged and besides, it was bored to hunt for new thrills to the public. But is it really necessary to protect the interests of your country?

Thank God that the state decision-making mechanism in Russia as heaven is different from what is generally accepted on the Internet, and the behavior style of top officials of the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the rapid ecstasy of other infantile fans of the World of Tanks game.

That is why the state did not start a war on such a clearly disproportionate issue. But at the same time, he didn’t become like “social activists” forever fluttering from topic to topic. And calmly, after compulsory understanding of the situation and the development of an adequate plan of action for such, proceeded to response steps. And they, as one would expect, turned out to be much more sensible and effective than the emissions of the loud-sounding mind of the public in the network. Which is for everything sick, but, alas, is not responsible for anything.

The Russian authorities did not seize anyone or, even more so, let it sink to the bottom. They simply said in an even voice that from now on the Russian Black Sea Fleet has the task to protect the interests of Russian navigation in the Sea of ​​Azov. For Ukrainian ears, this was quite enough. For the cat knows whose meat ate. Overnight, the entire fishing industry of Ukraine in the Azov-Black Sea basin was paralyzed. There was no one who wanted to make sure by personal experience that the naval rendezvous with the Russian warships was completely safe in Ukraine. And those will not be soon.

Thus, Russia accurately and prudently dealt a significant blow to the economic interests and social stability of Ukraine, in fact opposing to the Kiev regime the part of the population of Azov region that lives by fishing and which, owing to the adventurism of its rulers, lost its normal earnings. Contrasting it with Kiev, because the brazen seizure of a Russian ship was most likely regarded by sensible people in Ukraine, of whom there are quite a few, as the utter stupidity of the Kiev authorities, giving Russia the right to a tough answer. Thus, the Ukrainian government is already slurping trouble with a full spoon.

But this is not the end of the story. The Russian punishment of reckless and extremely short-sighted Kiev Russophobes is just beginning. There are reports of mass detentions and harsh checks by Russian border guards in the area of ​​the Crimean Bridge of almost all merchant ships en route to the Ukrainian port of Mariupol. Meanwhile, this city is not the easiest point on the map of Ukraine. Not only is it front-line. The largest metallurgical enterprises of this country are concentrated in Mariupol, including the famous “Azovstal”, whose products are mainly exported and, as you probably guessed, by sea.

No, I’m not saying at all that the next step for Russia will be the complete sea blockade of Mariupol with the inevitable in this case stopping its plants and the explosion of mass discontent of the dispossessed population. Everything has its time. But if the Kiev elite continued to become impudent in the mode of traditional lawlessness for her, then I would not rule out such a development of events.

And notice that the tough actions of Russia, which have become a response to the pirate "craft" of the Ukrainian authorities, are thought out in such a way that they work not so much to increase the confrontation between the "two parts of one people", according to Vladimir Putin’s apt expression, but to deepen the gap between a part of this people, living in Ukraine, and the usurpers of power seated in Kiev. And this is perhaps the best thing that Russia can do to liberate Ukraine from the ugly product of Washington's geopolitics, which now rules there.

The above example vividly illustrates the huge distance between irresponsible "outsiders' advice", which, alas, often inflicts a mass man in the street and responsible government policies, the main purpose of which is to act in an optimal way for the country. Even if it is not as lightning-fast, bright and enchanting, as is required by the habits brought up by the show business of the modern public.

Exactly the same algorithm is present in a number of other recent Russian state decisions. Due to the rather high quality of which we still refrain from the rampant sinking of the American aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea, from the explosion of the Yellowstone volcano and even from the shooting down of American spy planes stubbornly snooping around the Crimea.

Although this, to be honest, sometimes a lot of Internet fans, who are concerned about the fate of Russia almost more than Putin himself and always accuse him of having “merged” again, insist very strongly insist.

But that is the fundamental difference between us, mere mortals and the head of state, that he, unlike most of us, bears concrete and personal responsibility for the whole country, for its future, and for you and me. Therefore, he, unlike the typical Internet strategist, does not succeed in something that rashly boils something, and then dissolve completely in the virtual space. That is why Putin is almost never in a hurry to respond to the constantly emerging challenges and, moreover, to direct provocations. In such cases, he pauses and ponders the response. And clearly seeks to choose the one that is optimal.

That is how he recently chose the time to, after a long and hard work, at one moment to announce to the whole world about the creation of a unique Russian weapons and thereby put it before a completely new global reality.

That’s how he now operates in Syria, where many idle viewers just sometimes lack the vivid impressions of Russia's actions. Not realizing that the empty shelves of food stores can become a payment for these vivid impressions, a summons to the draft board in the order of general mobilization and a brass band that will play in your house, but you will not hear it anymore.

Unlike fans of informational adrenaline, the president cannot but understand the interdependence of these things. And it acts in such a way that, in protecting the interests of the country, it does not harm it. And for those who are not satisfied with such logic of Putin, I can give only one piece of advice: to offer the country oneself as the main state “reshaly” and first of all to sink the American aircraft carrier. Just do not be offended if after that the same citizens who today demand exactly the same from Putin on the Internet will tear you away.
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  1. Horst78
    Horst78 4 May 2018 15: 16
    +19
    Well, I did not expect other tactics from the head of state. In fact, we chose him in vain? With friday.
    1. Vend
      Vend 4 May 2018 17: 58
      +19
      Quote: Horst78
      Well, I did not expect other tactics from the head of state. In fact, we chose him in vain? With friday.

      Not in vain. These are Internet trolls trying to prove the opposite to us.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 4 May 2018 18: 28
        +24
        The thing is that people often painfully (and this is normal in this situation) react to what is happening around our country. These are not trolls, people with an aggravated sense of patriotism. But it is not up to them to make decisions. And this is right.
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Horst78
        Well, I did not expect other tactics from the head of state. In fact, we chose him in vain? With friday.

        Not in vain. These are Internet trolls trying to prove the opposite to us.
      2. Senior manager
        Senior manager 6 May 2018 16: 47
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        These are Internet trolls trying to prove the opposite to us.

        And people with increased excitability, hysterically, I speak completely without sarcasm. Thanks to the author. "Hurry up slowly" - this statesman should ALWAYS remember.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 4 May 2018 18: 21
      +13
      Quote: Horst78
      Well, I did not expect other tactics from the head of state. In fact, we chose him in vain? With friday.

      Combat hopak is still bouncing, and Ju-do is a fighting philosophy.
      For the speedy return of the crew of Nord and the ship itself to their homeland. drinks
    3. Ilya Mikhalych
      Ilya Mikhalych 5 May 2018 12: 51
      +7
      Well damn it, you certainly have chosen! who doubts the honesty of "our" elections ....
    4. Petr petrov
      Petr petrov 8 May 2018 15: 29
      0
      And who chose him !!!!!!! ?????
  2. Blue fox
    Blue fox 4 May 2018 15: 22
    +21
    to announce to the whole world the creation of a unique Russian weapon and thereby put it in front of a completely new global reality.
    But the world didn’t know ... I would prefer not to be afraid, but respected. And respect, it is not only the rattling of weapons, even in response, is achieved.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 May 2018 18: 29
      +16
      Have you heard about the saying? "Afraid? So respect!" yes And in our gaddy world they respect only strength and determination ..
      Quote: Blue Fox
      to announce to the whole world the creation of a unique Russian weapon and thereby put it in front of a completely new global reality.
      But the world didn’t know ... I would prefer not to be afraid, but respected. And respect, it is not only the rattling of weapons, even in response, is achieved.
      1. Stas
        Stas 4 May 2018 18: 51
        +17
        I do not agree with "your saying." There is an expression, but is it wise? For example, I'm afraid of a fool with a knife or a gun or (not important), but will I respect him? Respect only people worthy of respect, for worthy deeds. The same can be projected both on animals and on countries. This is my opinion.
        1. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 4 May 2018 20: 02
          +11
          Unfortunately, not all relations of a person-to-person level can be projected onto international relations. States, unlike people, have no friends, but only allies in their interests.
        2. pacific
          pacific 5 May 2018 20: 14
          +3
          Quote: Stas
          I do not agree with "your saying" .... Respect only people worthy of respect, for worthy deeds ...

          Alas, Stas, but for “our Western partners” a less logical thinking awakens only after it flies well between the ears. And in order for them to make a remotely reasonable conclusion, it is necessary that the prospect of weighty plush constantly looms before their eyes.
          And this is not idle speculation, but unfortunately, my own sad experience in dealing with government officials from Tan and the UK.
          In the eyes of the arrogant Saxons on both sides of the ocean, a “worthy deed” is when you “voluntarily and with a song” do something to the benefit of the “white master” even to the detriment of your own interests. The maximum you can count on is the favorable acceptance of the results of your efforts.
        3. leshiy076
          leshiy076 5 May 2018 23: 34
          +1
          Only those who are capable of this can respect, in politics and indeed in the modern world there are not as many of them as we would like. At least not one of the leaders of the Western world belongs to people who are capable of respecting someone. This is the reality of today. How then to force a person or state to refrain from an attack that is not capable of respecting anyone? In my opinion, there is only one way, you need to instill in such an ordinary animal fear of the consequences of their rash actions, because such people are guided mainly only by instincts. So sometimes you have to influence the instinct of self-preservation.
        4. Senior manager
          Senior manager 6 May 2018 17: 12
          0
          Quote: Stas
          Respect only people worthy of respect, for worthy deeds.

          You simply did not finish, did not bind together. In Putin, in international politics, everything is built on actions for which you, Russia, cannot be blamed for, but not blamed for, so you need to come up with and the West starts up at all serious in order to belittle these acts and simply blame them. And with good weapons, it’s easier to breathe and the conversation with the West is more relaxed. Gaddafi and Hussein, the world to their ashes, not possessing strong weapons opposed the West - the result is known. To paraphrase “Strength in truth with weapons,” these are the rules of the modern world.
      2. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 7 May 2018 17: 25
        +1
        When the weak begins to show stronger strength and decisiveness, it is known than it ends. The power in the pictures should not be confused with unfinished frigates and Armata in parades and a mosquito fleet. The symbolic photo montage at the head of the article: - GDP shoots from Maxim with a closed sighting window, - into the blind, not seeing the target. - unflattering that it’s getting tighter to live in the country ...
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 May 2018 18: 59
      +5
      Quote: Blue Fox
      And respect, it is not only the rattling of weapons, even in response, is achieved.

      On the Moon, perhaps, and on Earth in politics there is only the right of power.
    3. Yarik
      Yarik 4 May 2018 19: 06
      +3
      And respect, it is not only the rattling of weapons, even in response, is achieved.

      Not only. This is "crunching" of money in YOUR pocket, not the pocket of partners. Or friends of all kinds of dubious plans. Brains and other rabbits .. And therefore .... about anything about judo in the Spanish party. laughing
    4. Scipio African
      Scipio African 4 May 2018 19: 58
      +11
      How many of them have sunk into oblivion wanting respect for the fellow

      Grenada,

      Yugoslavia,

      Iraq,

      Libya .........

      Who is there next to respect? No.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 May 2018 21: 28
        +15
        Quote: Scipio African
        Who's next to respect

        - Why did the US start a war against Iraq?
        - They said that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
        “Will they now start a war against North Korea?”
        - They won’t start. Because the DPRK really has it!
    5. Baby sitter
      Baby sitter 4 May 2018 20: 41
      +5
      There was a time, there were the USSR and CMEA. And everyone respected Russian .... Well, then everyone knows ....
    6. Kent0001
      Kent0001 7 May 2018 16: 11
      +2
      DIMON will fix everything now! As always! So it’s good that there are at least rockets ....
  3. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 4 May 2018 15: 25
    +19
    the people react like that because we too often express concern and nothing more.
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 4 May 2018 15: 42
      +20
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      the people react like that because we too often express concern and nothing more.

      And what is better - 10 times to express concern or once - condolences to the parents of the dead boys? If Putin were guided by the cries of useful idiots "Putin introducing donbas", what would we have? In addition to the sanctions, there is also a civil war.
      1. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa 4 May 2018 16: 05
        +1
        why are you telling me this. I didn’t raise panic then wink
        1. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 4 May 2018 16: 09
          +12
          Quote: Heterocapsa
          why are you telling me this. I didn’t raise panic then wink

          On clothes - stretch your legs. The United States has a lot of strength, and that’s a dope. But Russia is still weak. You have to think about the head, not break the bricks.
          1. Heterocapsa
            Heterocapsa 4 May 2018 16: 11
            +1
            Duc and who argues that. I just voiced the aspirations of the alarmists. They also suggested that the Nord ship clean up Ukraine and go to our troops laughing
            1. Scipio African
              Scipio African 4 May 2018 20: 02
              +2
              -
              Envy will come to you in a pan lol
      2. odometer
        odometer 4 May 2018 16: 20
        +16
        They wouldn’t have had a crowd of balobols on the talk show “worried” about the fate of Russians and the “Russian world” outside the Russian Federation, but would have given real hope to everyone who is “behind the hill” that they would not be abandoned if something happened. , the Russians do not abandon their own ... But no, there is no certainty. Take a walk, express concern, humanitarian, then ...
      3. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 4 May 2018 16: 46
        +16
        Nowadays, “boys” are dying, and there is no need to talk “about world peace” .. For reflection: why our government, brought the state of mutual relations with all the former republics of the USSR, and not only hostile. B. Yeltsin "gave" freedom to everyone and without obstruction, bowed to the west ... The Chubais built foreign and domestic policies, with Dyachenko, Voloshin and the company with a "family contract." The current president has become the appointee and successor, the guarantor of the Yeltsin family and thieves from this family, a cloudless life for stolen billions. First, see for yourself what is going wrong. Maybe it’s time for us to change something so as not to slide further into confrontation with everyone, or even war. I’m not talking about betrayal and the surrender of state interests ... Some thoughts suggest, maybe someone needs such a military confrontation, such as holding the bankrupt executive branch of the Russian Federation. ... Maybe fraudsters-advisers and other marmots see the retention of power and the removal of indignation of the people of the existing liberal government. Perhaps the main problems of today's troubles in our country ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 17: 00
          +16
          In Durkee conducted an Internet, or what? belay
          1. Opera
            Opera 4 May 2018 17: 40
            +9
            The situation is more serious! It seems to be in Lithuania ...
            1. Opera
              Opera 4 May 2018 17: 44
              +4
              Today, a border guard patrol ship Amethyst west of Cape Tarkhankut detained a Ukrainian vessel engaged in illegal fishing! The ship and crew delivered to the Crimea.
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 7 May 2018 12: 10
                0
                You understand the essence of what is happening with this detention, - the wedge and enmity between the Slavic neighboring nations are driven further. Who pursues the policy of the state, which translates into the promotion of hostility. To begin with, determine the national composition of the government, both of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, more carefully by parents and other signs, there will be interesting systemic matches in the "column" ...
      4. tol100v
        tol100v 4 May 2018 17: 45
        +3
        Quote: Serge Gorely
        In addition to the sanctions, there is also a civil war.

        Sanctions for Russia have been all my life. And they can come up with a reason to enter it just like a Russian peasant reason (reason) to drink vodka!
      5. Yarik
        Yarik 4 May 2018 19: 09
        +4
        In addition to the sanctions, there is also a civil war.

        Citizen with whom? With a hundred oligarchs? Or with a split personality in the person? So this is not a war, this is for psychiatrists.
        1. Antares
          Antares 5 May 2018 21: 12
          +1
          Quote: Yarik
          With a hundred oligarchs

          # Ichtutnet (C) Sands
          Yes, and do not incite hatred for the social group "successful businessmen"
          The author has exaggerated everything. Unfortunately, he forgot that at first TV stably forms the “greatness” of the country, and such cases violate the picture of the formed picture of the world with “greatness”. But citizens may ask
          And where is the "foreign policy at 5 plus"? -if it is corny for a few km from the Russian Federation.
          1. vasya.pupkin
            vasya.pupkin 6 May 2018 16: 07
            +1
            Quote: Antares
            Quote: Yarik
            With a hundred oligarchs

            # Ichtutnet (C) Sands
            Yes, and do not incite hatred for the social group "successful businessmen"
            The author has exaggerated everything. Unfortunately, he forgot that at first TV stably forms the “greatness” of the country, and such cases violate the picture of the formed picture of the world with “greatness”. But citizens may ask
            And where is the "foreign policy at 5 plus"? -if it is corny for a few km from the Russian Federation.

            “But citizens can ask,” what can you say, the Sumerian will not ask your Walzman and Groisman? Maybe because you are "Odessa" also circumcised?
      6. sa-ag
        sa-ag 5 May 2018 09: 35
        +2
        Quote: Serge Gorely
        civil war.

        who with whom?
      7. Kent0001
        Kent0001 7 May 2018 16: 13
        +1
        So now we have it, and we continue to be strangled for the fact that WE are in the Donbas, then we must correspond to what you have already been punished for.
  4. cedar
    cedar 4 May 2018 15: 30
    +12
    I just wanted to offer to sink the aircraft carrier, now I thought ...
    On the one hand, the arrogant Saxons in Syria are gathering a flock to make fun of it with not a hundred, but maybe a thousand of their CDs, and we only have conversations, how and how to shoot them down, how many break through, but where it will explode ...
    And according to the laws of the genre, it is necessary to puzzle them with at least a hundred of our "Caliber", let them practice too ...
    But on the other hand it turns out according to the author, it’s not my pig business.
    It is necessary to consult with the Jews, they are smart, they don’t eat pork ...
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 7 May 2018 16: 15
      +1
      Jews always defend their interests on the interests of others, even "other" Jews do not care.
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 4 May 2018 15: 45
    +38
    "cheers article" about the new multi-paths. This is art from the "minus" to make the "plus"
    1. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa 4 May 2018 16: 06
      +16
      Duc did the same after hitting the Americans in Syria. After it turned out that we were also handsome. In the best traditions of Russia 24
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 17: 05
        +8
        Quote: Heterocapsa
        we also turned out to be handsome

        You? belay
        Throw yourself to slander ...
        Quote: Silvestr
        This is art from the "minus" to make the "plus"

        Could you be more specific? Where is the minus from which the plus is made?
        I do not see point blank request
        1. Aleks2048
          Aleks2048 4 May 2018 20: 06
          +5
          Take a closer look.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 4 May 2018 18: 15
      +13
      Oh, I agree. Kudrin is returning to power, that’s where the multi-way is!
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 May 2018 19: 01
      +2
      Quote: Silvestr
      "cheers-article" about the new multi-paths

      Essentially there is something to object to?
  6. lis-ik
    lis-ik 4 May 2018 15: 47
    +25
    From the first phrases it is clear that this is the political instructor Selivanov, you can not read it, sheer licking.
    1. Opera
      Opera 4 May 2018 17: 47
      +9
      Apparently, the comrades in the struggle of pluses have also told you the same thing without reading ?! From the first phrases you can see a continuous spitting!
  7. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 4 May 2018 15: 54
    +23
    A person living on the ground floor does not see beyond his yard.
    A person living on the top floor of a skyscraper sees the city and the horizon ..
    In relation to politics - We live on the first or second floor and try to judge what we don’t see and don’t know, on the basis of the view that opens from our window.
    I agree with the author.
    1. Stas
      Stas 4 May 2018 17: 50
      +12
      Based on your logic, that a giraffe is big - he knows better. People like Yanukovych, Yeltsin, Gorbachev and many others also stood at the head of the state and had complete information. And what, did it help them ??? It is important to have competent analysts and make the right decisions.
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 4 May 2018 18: 18
        +3
        People like Yanukovych, Yeltsin, Gorbachev

        They are not GDP.
        Time will tell which of us is right.
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 4 May 2018 18: 51
      +8
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      In relation to politics - We live on the first or second floor and try to judge what we don’t see and don’t know, on the basis of the view that opens from our window.

      You flatter yourself. We live in the basement and see only leaks from the sewer. And according to what spilled over our feet, some are trying to guess from which floor they leaked. And we can’t understand that indigestion does not depend on the floor of the owner.
      Here the author argues about some damage to the fishing industry in Ukraine. So what? Did it sadden someone in BP or in the office of the president of 404? Yes, no matter how! There are businessmen, secret and overt. And what damage they do to their state by their actions, they know in details and numbers better than ours. And they are up to the lamp. And all these pauses of ours, too. Here it is necessary to act jewelry and sharply directed, so that on behalf of Poroshenko, for example, to play against the interests of Trump or Clinton (as an option). It is necessary to identify the sensitive places of specific persons of the Ukrainian leadership and to “squeeze” them tightly. Ideally, under the "alien flag". Today, being “right” and “fair” in international affairs is too simple for it to work effectively.
  8. vvvjak
    vvvjak 4 May 2018 16: 06
    +8
    The Russian Federation is not interested in fomenting any conflict in the sphere of its interests, especially at its borders. This is understandable to any sane person (at least Russian-speaking). Putin’s policy in this part is quite consistent and transparent. The main thing is that the “partners” would not take her for a manifestation of weakness (or helplessness) and would not try to check for “lice”. Judging by the behavior and statements of Western politicians, their mind and sense of self-preservation are completely absent and they may well inadequately perceive the situation with all the ensuing unpleasant consequences. In this situation, it is necessary to clearly understand where this very “red line” is located for which it should not be allowed (otherwise the “machine gun” in the picture and can be thrown with grenades). I hope Putin has a clear picture of the situation (so far there has been no reason to doubt his decisions and actions).
    PS This comment was written as a long-time player of "WOT" (an adult, not a "shkololo"), so that the author does not refer to "other infantile fans of the game" World of Tanks ""
  9. rennim166
    rennim166 4 May 2018 16: 08
    +16
    If Russia was a great power, there would be no headache with Ukraine and other "multi-passers".
    I am sure that it is necessary to deal with Internal politics so that the golotnoys do not beg for a place ... in history.
    Only having achieved success inside can one think about other things. The main thing is the welfare of Russian citizens. And the rest is the game of soldiers.
    1. Opera
      Opera 4 May 2018 17: 54
      +6
      Domestic policy is largely dependent on foreign. I’ll say more without a “game of soldiers”, as you deigned to express our domestic policy, people could have defined the same way that they did it in the 90s, when you didn’t have to think about welfare! More and more about what we will eat tomorrow!
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 4 May 2018 17: 58
      +2
      Quote: rennim166
      Only having achieved success inside can one think about other things. The main thing is the welfare of Russian citizens. And the rest is the game of soldiers.

      Only by securing Russia from the outside, can and should we deal with internal problems! And then in a destroyed and occupied country it will not be at all up to welfare!
      1. Alf
        Alf 4 May 2018 21: 13
        +9
        Quote: Tol100v
        Only by securing Russia from the outside, can and should we deal with internal problems!

        To protect the country from the outside, you need to have a powerful self-sufficient economy, strong agriculture, developed science, and with this in Russia it’s now ... bad. And to have a powerful army in a bad economy is like wearing a luxurious coat on a naked body.
      2. G A_2
        G A_2 5 May 2018 05: 40
        +8
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: rennim166
        Only having achieved success inside can one think about other things. The main thing is the welfare of Russian citizens. And the rest is the game of soldiers.

        Only by securing Russia from the outside, can and should we deal with internal problems! And then in a destroyed and occupied country it will not be at all up to welfare!

        How much horror can catch up can be enough. Russia (USSR) has long secured itself from outside threats. Nuclear weapon. Point. The economic power of Nem. That is not respected. Fear it yes. "Patriots" are already cowering with pride.
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 May 2018 19: 02
      +2
      Quote: rennim166
      Only having achieved success inside can one think about other things. The main thing is the welfare of Russian citizens. And the rest is the game of soldiers.

      Gorbachev's favorite song.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 4 May 2018 21: 58
        +3
        Namely, who will let us build the economy, Anglo-Saxon needs to eliminate the threat to a unipolar world, and we are the threat. This is like a Stolypin song, give me 20 years and I’ll build it all. Who will give him 20 years? Stalin asked for 10 years in 1931, ten gave, but we got them restraining the enemy in Spain and on the holholing
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 4 May 2018 22: 01
          +3
          Quote: Pissarro
          It's like a Stolypin song, give me 20 years and I’ll build everything

          Well, we don’t know how everything would turn out if he survived the assassination attempt. There were enough problems in the Republic of Ingushetia, but there was no darkness or horror from Soviet propaganda.
          Quote: Pissarro
          but we got them restraining the enemy in Spain and on holholol

          And now we are holding back in Syria and the Donbass.
  10. LMN
    LMN 4 May 2018 16: 16
    +20
    The position of those commenting on the article and peremptory statements about propaganda and licking by the author is not very clear.
    Without his article, I adhered to a point of view similar to the author. Yes, and here many people agree with him on the resource. Why, I’m sure that a very small part of Russia will agree with the author.

    So where does this categorical opinion come from that you are right, and the rest are “cowards, sneakers, etc.”? what
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 4 May 2018 17: 41
      +12
      Quote: LMN
      The position of those commenting on the article and peremptory statements about propaganda and licking by the author is not very clear.
      Without his article, I adhered to a point of view similar to the author. Yes, and here many people agree with him on the resource. Why, I’m sure that a very small part of Russia will agree with the author.

      So where does this categorical opinion come from that you are right, and the rest are “cowards, sneakers, etc.”? what

      It is difficult to agree with the justification of one’s own powerlessness at the state level, it’s better to remain silent at all, because there is really no decent answer, what the author does is mantras and complacency at the level of auto-training.
      1. LMN
        LMN 4 May 2018 18: 28
        +6

        It is difficult to agree with the justification of one’s own powerlessness at the state level, it’s better to remain silent at all, because there is really no decent answer, what the author does is mantras and complacency at the level of auto-training.


        Is it difficult to probably live, feeling humiliated and offended? recourse
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 4 May 2018 18: 37
          +8
          Quote: LMN

          It is difficult to agree with the justification of one’s own powerlessness at the state level, it’s better to remain silent at all, because there is really no decent answer, what the author does is mantras and complacency at the level of auto-training.


          Is it difficult to probably live, feeling humiliated and offended? recourse

          Those who make the decision most likely do not give a damn about the country, personal interest prevails there, and I try not to take to heart, but it turns out badly, especially if I found the USSR.
          1. LMN
            LMN 4 May 2018 18: 52
            +9
            Those who make the decision most likely do not give a damn about the country, personal interest prevails there, and I try not to take to heart, but it turns out badly, especially if I found the USSR.


            And why did the idea (for example) that Putin is an officer and a soldier be rejected from the beginning, and that he is really, realizing his position and capabilities, trying to repay a debt to his homeland?

            Why are you a real patriot, glad and worried about your homeland, the collapse of the Union, etc., and Putin is a coward and nothing powerful and misunderstanding, not loving the motherland?

            I don’t understand this ..
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 4 May 2018 18: 59
              +12
              An officer and soldier of 18 years who is under pressure or not wanting to change something, about what they don’t give can no longer say, in this situation, everything suits him. The whole skirmish with the West of recent years is already beginning to resemble a statement of the type I wanted, but I could not and the oligarchs did not give the internal enemies.
              1. LMN
                LMN 4 May 2018 19: 10
                +10
                Quote: lis-ik
                An officer and soldier of 18 years who is under pressure or not wanting to change something, about what they don’t give can no longer say, in this situation, everything suits him. The whole skirmish with the West of recent years is already beginning to resemble a statement of the type I wanted, but I could not and the oligarchs did not give the internal enemies.

                It's a shame for you if you see reality and what is happening in the world.sad So not long and get depressed wink

                I am glad that there were and will be more positive people in Russia than there are melancholic ones ... drinks
              2. Opera
                Opera 4 May 2018 19: 20
                +12
                What you say Iis-ik is pure populism! Have you lived in the USSR? And I lived and many lived here! Now, take it and in the same way, in the same manner, say the same thing about the USSR, what are you now blaming Putin so famously! Try it out for you! This is populism! Are you a liberal ?! Your position is just a liberal tracing-paper! They and the USSR were spread rot in exactly the same manner, and what was good suddenly turned out to be underdeveloped and ridiculous! You haven’t come up with anything new since the February Revolution! Sometimes you succeed and it must be regretted to admit. However, left-wing activists are now hardest hit. Most people who consciously survived the nightmare of the 90s are now in power! We can evaluate the fact that the country was balancing on one leg over the abyss and what has been done since the beginning of the 2000s. For some reason, Putin may not be loved, but not recognizing what he has done for the country is definitely a crafty deed!
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 5 May 2018 09: 13
                  +6
                  Let's just wait a bit, you all sacredly believed that the government would change to a more sovereign and patriotic, I bet that it will be more liberal and will again flirt with the West. Let's see, it remains to wait a bit. If I'm wrong, I will find the strength in myself to admit that I am wrong.
              3. Pissarro
                Pissarro 4 May 2018 22: 01
                +5
                Are you saying that nothing has changed in 18 years? I’m the “holy” nineties and now I can’t remember without a shudder
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 5 May 2018 19: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Pissarro
                  Are you saying that nothing has changed in 18 years? I’m the “holy” nineties and now I can’t remember without a shudder

                  I remember the nineties, it was difficult, but I held on because he was young, built a career no matter what, I did not care about the shortage of everything and bandits, it seemed that life would never end and the main thing was fighting enthusiasm and faith in a bright tomorrow, which now, alas, is no longer there.
    2. Opera
      Opera 4 May 2018 17: 55
      +2
      Look at your advantages!) Plus to you and from me!
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 May 2018 19: 04
      +5
      Quote: LMN
      So where does this categorical opinion come from that you are right, and the rest are “cowards, sneakers, etc.”?

      ... according to my many observations, our liberal can never allow anyone to have his own special conviction and not immediately reply to his opponent with a curse or even something worse ...
      Fedor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky
      “If you are not with us, then you are a scoundrel!” According to the author of the article “To study or not to study”, this is the slogan of the current Russian liberals. We completely agree with the author that the phrase quoted is indeed the slogan of our liberals. “If you are not with us, then you are a scoundrel!” Adhering to this principle, our liberals instruct Russian society at once to renounce everything that it believed in and that merged with its nature. Reject authority, do not strive for any ideals, do not have any religion (except Feuerbach and Buchner notebooks), do not be embarrassed by any moral obligations, laugh at marriage, at sympathies, at spiritual purity, otherwise you are a “scoundrel”! If you are offended that you will be called a scoundrel, well, so in addition you are still “a stupid fool and a crappy nonsense.” With such views, in our time the reputation of many or almost all public figures is formed ...
      Nikolai Semenovich Leskov
  11. Loess
    Loess 4 May 2018 16: 22
    +6
    Well written, right.
  12. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 4 May 2018 16: 35
    +6
    "We retreated silently for a long time,
    It was annoying, they were waiting for the battle.
    Grumbling old people:
    Well, what about winter apartments?
    Do not dare the commanders
    Aliens to tear uniforms on Russian bayonets?
    And they found a large field "

    It seems we also found, tolerate a little bit all impatient
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  14. Placebo
    Placebo 4 May 2018 16: 48
    +17
    Hooray, it’s patriotism, it’s not taken from the air ... Simply, at first, for the sake of public relations, for the sake of winning the elections, the guarantor declares Russia a superpower and declares ... And then, when the godfather a little bit and rockets, and Deribaskami, then right away, everyone turns on a fool ... And, notice the opposite of SESHA, now no one squeals, and never will ...
  15. lopvlad
    lopvlad 4 May 2018 16: 48
    +4
    from the downing of American spy planes stubbornly snooping around the Crimea


    the plane would not have touched because there are people, but a drone for 140 million green off the coast of the Crimea would surely have flunked as a warning.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 4 May 2018 22: 05
      +2
      It will be more colorful to seize control and land. As the Iranians did in 2011, intercepting Kandahar and planting the "Kandahar beast"
  16. I am Russian
    I am Russian 4 May 2018 16: 55
    +18
    The vile scent of the article carries. It's disgusting to read
    1. LMN
      LMN 4 May 2018 18: 55
      +9
      Quote: I am Russian
      The vile scent of the article carries. It's disgusting to read

      Maybe because you saw yourself in the article? lol
      1. I am Russian
        I am Russian 4 May 2018 21: 40
        +5
        The answer is not correct. Let's have another option, show off intelligence.
        1. LMN
          LMN 4 May 2018 21: 56
          +4
          Quote: I am Russian
          The answer is not correct. Let's have another option, show off intelligence.

          Are we playing puzzles here?
          request
          1. I am Russian
            I am Russian 4 May 2018 22: 03
            +4
            no, you just write nonsense and try to naughty little things request
            1. LMN
              LMN 4 May 2018 22: 08
              +5
              Well excuse me .. "what question, such an answer" hi
    2. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 6 May 2018 16: 10
      +1
      Quote: I am Russian
      The vile scent of the article carries. It's disgusting to read

      "The forks were found, but the sediment remained ..."
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  18. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 May 2018 17: 13
    +13
    It’s a pity you shouldn’t miss the potential “bullet recipients” for Moscow. How much then would there be a squeal about "we will not stand for the price! Save Moscow!" For celestials, the Motherland is somewhere closer than the outskirts of Moscow. Everything else is a field for transferring “red lines”, tears and candles for the media, muttering about “concerns”.
    Donbass showed what the policy of state formation "RF" is really worth.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 4 May 2018 19: 48
      +1
      Konstantin Viktorovich interests me, what did Donbass show you?
  19. I am Russian
    I am Russian 4 May 2018 17: 14
    +10
    “bears concrete and personal responsibility for the whole country, for its future and for us and you.” - author, you are raving! Apart from Nicholas II, no one was held responsible. Enchanting Delusion Stream fool
  20. Tomato
    Tomato 4 May 2018 17: 35
    +13
    Better than Simonyan no longer lick - "" Previously, he was just our president and he could be changed. And now he is our leader. And we won’t let him change him. And you did it yourself. ”
    By the way, what about the "leader" in German?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 17: 38
      +5
      Quote: Tomatoes
      By the way, what about the "leader" in German?

      And what about the German "Stalin"? wink
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 5 May 2018 02: 29
        +5
        And Stalin in German: Hitler Kaput!
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 02: 45
          +1
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          And Stalin in German: Hitler Kaput!

          Not in rhyme, though true (c).
          Someone Pomidorov decided to cry out the word "leader", and suggested recalling how it sounds in German (I know how it sounds).
          I (indirectly) recalled that the leaders were not only in Germany.
          That's it request
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 5 May 2018 03: 31
            +2
            Hello roman! hi I read the comments before .... And I didn’t try to rhyme ... repeat
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 07: 09
              +1
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              And he didn’t try to rhyme ...

              Anecdote about Petka and Vasil Ivanovich:
              - So then it’s not true!
              - But in the rhyme ...
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 5 May 2018 07: 46
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                - So then it’s not true!
                - But in the rhyme ...

                I have the TRUTH, though not in rhyme!
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 07: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  I have the TRUTH, though not in rhyme!

                  Who would argue ...
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Not in rhyme, though true (s)

                  hi
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee 5 May 2018 07: 51
                    0
                    Are! hi
    2. I am Russian
      I am Russian 4 May 2018 17: 41
      +7
      Simonyan Gundyaeva will never surpass in this regard laughing
    3. Opera
      Opera 4 May 2018 17: 57
      +6
      People can change it. Constitutional way. We will not give otherwise.
      1. cedar
        cedar 4 May 2018 19: 05
        +3
        Yes sir. Russia is not Armenia.
        Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!
      2. Tomato
        Tomato 4 May 2018 21: 56
        +8
        One may ask - how?
        In the following elections, presidential candidates will be registered:
        Boris Moiseev.
        Anastasia Volochkova.
        Vladimir Putin.
        Georges Snezhansky (LGBT movement leader)
        Do you think there is a chance?
    4. nnz226
      nnz226 4 May 2018 19: 49
      +3
      The leader in German is the Führer !!!
    5. digitalcn75
      digitalcn75 4 May 2018 21: 11
      0
      It seems, Fuhrer, only above u two points should be (umlaut), but I don’t have a German layout.
  21. solzh
    solzh 4 May 2018 17: 50
    +14
    or a prison term is the maximum that they shone even in the current crazy Ukraine.

    That is, the author of the article believes that Russian citizens can sit in foreign prisons on far-fetched charges, is this normal? The article is entirely praising Putin and his policies. While Russia is pursuing a “soft” foreign policy, they will wipe their feet about us.
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  23. nnz226
    nnz226 4 May 2018 19: 48
    +13
    This is all beautifully set out, but part of the crew of the Nord is still in Ukraine, and the captain is arrested and steamed on the bunk ...
    Where is the fulfillment of the slogan: "Russia does not abandon its own" ??? Or wait five years (or how much they solder the captain of the “Nord”), and then we say: “Well, restrained policy has yielded results, the captain is free!” So what ???
  24. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 4 May 2018 20: 36
    +6
    "But this is not the end of the story. The Russian punishment of the reckless and extremely short-sighted Kiev Russophobia is only beginning. There are reports of mass detention and strict checks by Russian border guards in the area of ​​the Crimean bridge of virtually all merchant ships going to the Ukrainian port of Mariupol."
    I don’t see the connection ... I see the connection with the fact that at the start of the bridge there will be Himself! From this, here at least “Kuznetsov” will be driven.
  25. Landscaping
    Landscaping 4 May 2018 20: 41
    +1
    I was taught, pause, let me know what he’ll lose. I don’t understand, beat to the bone, to death, if heard, understand.
  26. Abram
    Abram 4 May 2018 21: 16
    +8
    And Boris Nikolaevich too, what pauses he respected! True, often due to the consumption of vodka. If the author were peeing at that time, he would also undoubtedly find “art to pause” in this peculiarity winked
  27. shuravi
    shuravi 4 May 2018 21: 24
    +10
    Quote: LMN
    Those who make the decision most likely do not give a damn about the country, personal interest prevails there, and I try not to take to heart, but it turns out badly, especially if I found the USSR.


    And why did the idea (for example) that Putin is an officer and a soldier be rejected from the beginning, and that he is really, realizing his position and capabilities, trying to repay a debt to his homeland?

    Why are you a real patriot, glad and worried about your homeland, the collapse of the Union, etc., and Putin is a coward and nothing powerful and misunderstanding, not loving the motherland?

    I don’t understand this ..


    He is rather the holder of the common fund.
    1. LMN
      LMN 4 May 2018 21: 34
      +5
      He is rather the holder of the common fund.

      You can call Russia and its president, as you like. However, the Western media and politicians are regularly engaged.
      This will not change the essence.
      1. Opera
        Opera 4 May 2018 21: 49
        +1
        Whoever, for the sake of God, suffers the cruel words of a rude and unreasonable person to preserve peace, will be called the son of the world and can acquire the world ... (St. Isaiah 59, 83)
        The attempt to insult is the illness of thinking and the misfortune of the soul, in which common sense is distorted. (St. Gregory of Nyssa 23, 507)
  28. LMN
    LMN 4 May 2018 21: 36
    +4
    It’s scary to imagine what would happen to the heads of the “all-crawler” living in the beginning of the 18th century crying
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 May 2018 00: 27
      +3
      Quote: LMN
      what would happen to the heads of the “all-mutters” living in the beginning of the 18th century

      Especially after the "Narva Confusion" ... wassat Feces full of feces. fellow Well, this applies to modern ones. In those days, there were also enough "all-perishing", including, for a minute, the king's offspring.yes
      1. Antares
        Antares 5 May 2018 22: 34
        +1
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Especially after the "Narva Confusion"

        that yes, but not only Peter got

        all of Europe laughed at this trio
        Peter himself understood what he had done, but he didn’t give up
        - But when we received this misfortune, or better to say great mercy, under Narva, we were forced to laziness by force of captivity and art, day and night, and forced to wage war with fear and art ...

        what can you say about modern
  29. Brigadier
    Brigadier 4 May 2018 23: 59
    +9
    "Thank God that the mechanism for making government decisions in Russia is like heaven and earth different from the generally accepted on the Internet, and the style of behavior of senior officials of the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the fleeting ecstasy of other infantile fans of the game "World of Tanks"."
    If we transfer such a speed of decision-making on the “Nord” to the current Russia in 1941, then we would have to start responding to the German attack not before Hitler took Moscow ... And before the capture of Moscow we would have been thinking hard about the “options” response action ...
    And here at last they got hold of the answers when the Ukrainians abused our fishermen to their heart's content ...
    Well, is not it idiocy? And before it was impossible to answer? Did you have to wait?
    Today I am afraid of only one thing: if NATO attacks Russia, then our “top-notch robots” will only respond after all NATO missiles have already exploded on our territory ...
    Only then can no one answer ...
    1. Tahtvjd2868
      Tahtvjd2868 5 May 2018 01: 08
      +14
      Maybe they won’t answer at all. Passports rush to change, to European and American. Putin will soon surpass ALL Soviet rulers during his tenure! What's the point? Such a stagnation and a mess in no leader dreamed in a nightmare! Foreign policy is a failure, domestic is a complete absence, the economy is in the region of statistical error, medicine is de facto paid, education is degradation, space, civilian aircraft construction, the question is .. wherever you look, there is a complete lack of reasonable State policy! Continuous PR, and at the level of noodles on the ears !!! sad
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 12
        +6
        Quote: Tahtvjd2868
        education - degradation

        This is clearly visible to you.
        Wouldn’t you have climbed, that ... in the ranks request
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 27
          +2
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Wouldn’t you have climbed, that ... in the ranks

          AAA Roman - I’m not alone in the field fluttered .. (song) lol
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 30
            +1
            Quote: Romulus
            I’m not alone in the field fluttered .. (song)

            stop I do not drink. And I’m trying to work, I’m on a remote site now a process is going on ... the female dog, it is very slow. It’s hunting already, but for now ...
            1. Romulus
              Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 47
              0
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I do not drink.

              Respect good ..for man is weak .. winked After yesterday, yesterday, I banshee 6 hung a black mark so shta (s) you will soon be talking with his brother Rem)
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 48
                0
                Quote: Romulus
                soon you will communicate with brother rem

                How to know. I have nine tags request
                1. Romulus
                  Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Golovan Jack

                  0
                  Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 01:48 ↑
                  Quote: Romulus
                  soon you will communicate with brother rem

                  Who knows

                  Roman, I understand you, as they say - not for ranks and titles .. drinks
        2. Siberian 1975
          Siberian 1975 5 May 2018 10: 00
          +7
          And you, my dear, had enough education only for an error in a person’s word to insult. But essentially his post has something to answer? Maybe he is not as literate as you, but he wrote on the case and the truth. But for you, the main thing is to correctly arrange letters, and what a person wrote is not important. This is purely my personal opinion.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 10: 04
            0
            Quote: Sibiryak 1975
            This is purely my personal opinion.

            It is wrong.
            Quote: Sibiryak 1975
            But essentially his post has something to answer?

            This is not "his post." This is a balmy training manual, which has already wiped all corners here. If you do not understand this - this is your sadness, not mine.
            Actually, there’s nothing to answer there. So - spit, and grind.
            Quote: Sibiryak 1975
            insult a person’s word

            To write about the decline of education, in two words, and to make two mistakes in one of them - is this a mistake in the word ?!
            No ... sweetheart. This is a DNA mistake request
            1. Siberian 1975
              Siberian 1975 5 May 2018 10: 10
              +2
              As for the training manual, there are two of them. One of the author of the post, the other is an article, which is also a kind of training manual, but praised by a great strategist with cunning plans. And as for his mistakes (the author of the post), he already outlined two problems by his example. Medicine and education. He outlined and showed them in action.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 10: 15
                0
                Quote: Sibiryak 1975
                so by his example he has already identified two problems. Medicine and education

                I agree yes
                By his “fasting”, its author vividly demonstrated not only his egregious ignorance, but also certain signs, um ... alternative giftedness.
                1. AUL
                  AUL 5 May 2018 20: 08
                  0
                  The word "alternative" - ​​is written with a soft sign! This note is highly literate ...
                  1. Schima68
                    Schima68 6 May 2018 00: 22
                    0
                    He only learned the letter P from a speech therapist,
      2. Romulus
        Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 20
        +2
        Quote: Tahtvjd2868
        Passports rush to change

        Everything has already changed - once deep. passports ..
        V.I. Lenin wrote - he corrected more precisely .. history develops in a spiral and at each point in time-space we repeat what we have gone through .. in short - the last time the tragedy in the second is farce ..
        Here we are observing Ent Hochma now, only Lord preserved the Russian people from pain and blood ..
      3. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 5 May 2018 04: 09
        +4
        Quote: Tahtvjd2868
        education - degradation,

        wassat Damn it, and you can't argue ...laughing
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 6 May 2018 20: 12
          +1
          But why not argue? When degradation degrades?!.
  30. L10n77
    L10n77 5 May 2018 00: 52
    +5
    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
    People like Yanukovych, Yeltsin, Gorbachev

    They are not GDP.
    Time will tell which of us is right.

    Well, GDP is not Stalin, and not even Alexander 3.)
  31. iouris
    iouris 5 May 2018 01: 10
    +3
    Quote: “But that is precisely the fundamental difference between us, mere mortals and the head of state ...” End of quote.
    Thanks, explained. Give at least one historical example, plz. You can not? Come out to be built!
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 17
      +3
      But that is precisely the fundamental difference between us, mere mortals and the head of state.

      Quote: iouris
      Give at least one historical example

      But will not the historical one come down? Watch your hands:
      If you yell here at the forum “give vigorous bonbu to the Pentagon,” then ... nothing will happen.
      If the President (forbid Gd) says this, then there will be trouble. And you, oddly enough, too.
      Therefore, the President filters the bazaar. And does the thing.
      And you and your kind breed here, ahem, criticism.
      Will an example come up?
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 33
        0
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Watch your hands:

        Jack - we live under the normal President, everything seems to be smooth but at the same time everyone is dissatisfied with something .. ((
        I want all the people of change .. they just don’t know Chinese wisdom - God forbid you live in an era of change, two generations have grown under Putin - my sons and nothing are an example) everything is exactly ..
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 39
          0
          Quote: Romulus
          everything seems to be smooth but at the same time everyone is dissatisfied with something

          Yes!!! I am not satisfied!!!
          I sleep, (censorship), I want, like (censorship) !!!
          And here, (censorship), (censorship) the report will not be reported ...
          And if he (censorship) doesn’t leave the addresses by morning, then there will be ... minor troubles. Not with me laughing
          Here I am sitting, kicking my cheekbones with my feet am
          1. Romulus
            Romulus 5 May 2018 01: 57
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack

            0
            Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 01:39 ↑
            Quote: Romulus
            everything seems to be smooth but at the same time everyone is dissatisfied with something

            Yes!!! I am not satisfied!!!

            Eh Romka - reflexes are raging in you) - Reflex - the response of the body to irritation from the external or internal environment
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 01: 59
              0
              Quote: Romulus
              Reflex - the response of the body to irritation from the external or internal environment

              Le Chatelier principle: every system is lazy.
              I want to sleep. But I can’t yet. And from this - I want even more.
              I'll go tea with a cigarette for sure, or something ...
  32. Hikaro
    Hikaro 5 May 2018 04: 52
    +5
    In general, the conclusions are correct, but they dragged on with the expulsion of diplomats, this time! Two with dip real estate, the question also hangs, it's two! With the captured fishermen, too, at the beginning there was almost no reaction at all, and only now they captured seignourage poachers! But sorry, it hindered earlier starting to patrol the water area and rigidly bend Ukrainians! What were you waiting for ?? There were enough reasons !! One blockade of Crimea is worth it! Instead, some snot about the fraternal people! You have to be more pragmatic! Now everyone is wiping their feet on international norms and rules, for the hegemon has decided that this is no longer necessary! Therefore, in this rapidly changing world, we must respond more quickly and more harshly! Otherwise, they will take it for weakness and there will be a temptation to check for lice!
  33. sleeve
    sleeve 5 May 2018 05: 00
    0
    The correct message. Right, but still let it remain as it is. The people expressed concern about the protection of their borders (is this ours, people's borders?). Was there an oversight? It was. Is the situation corrected? Yes almost. Qualitatively fixed. Inventive, legal and effective. And without much malice. They showed neighboring grief politicians how the international legal field works as part of a reciprocal move. The people of the neighbor, still fraternal (well, here we are, loving!) Did not suffer much damage. That's right. What are we going to the polls for then? That's what we go for. To enjoy, not expensive and without much malice. But was the joint? It was. The effect has not yet been achieved. Ukraine, like us, should at least to some extent begin to perform a waltz of "good neighborly residence." Well, the time will come, let's get it. Why did they shout loudly and sharply? Because it’s normal. And the calls from the famous 3% of the active population for war are normal. We are not America, we are not bombing anyone on the basis of the Internet. So everything is all right. Both patriotic and cheers-patriotic statements are all a reaction of the active part of the population, as well as the opposite kind of information asset. Let it be. How’s Voltaire’s “... a throat break for your right to express your opinion”?
  34. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 May 2018 06: 58
    +7
    Overnight, the entire fishing industry of Ukraine in the Azov-Black Sea basin was paralyzed

    Yah? And what turned out to be "paralyzed" there? Has something changed in the status of the Sea of ​​Azov? Not. Something has changed in the rules for the passage of vessels for Ukraine in their ports of Azov? Not. Started inspecting Ukrainian vessels of the "suspicious" type? Yes. Ukraine has already filed a complaint with the international court about the unlawful search of “some” Ukrainian courts and a claim for damages. Guess three times which side this court will take. At the same time, Gazprom was wandering about the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, but then decided to pay a forfeit. Let's see what will happen now. As the Russians themselves say: "they cling to the fall they think" .....
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 07: 25
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      Quote: Monster_Fat
      At the same time, Gazprom was wandering about the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, but then decided to pay a forfeit.

      More details, please, from now on.
      What is Gazprom “deciding” there? With an indication of the source of secret knowledge, of course.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      cling to fall consider

      Yeah ... it’s clinging. And herons too yes
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 5 May 2018 12: 13
        +2
        https://www.pnp.ru/economics/gazprom-zarezervirov
        al-sredstva-dlya-vyplaty-naftogazu.html
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 12: 20
          +2
          Gazprom has reserved funds for the payment of a fine under a transit contract to Naftogaz. This was reported in the company report..
          Under the article “fines, penalties, forfeits for violation of the terms of contracts”, an amount of 272,943 billion rubles, or 4,74 billion dollars, was established

          What kind of nonsense? In what "report" ?! Have you seen this report? I’m not here, and he’s not looking somehow ... I own Google (and not only), if that.
          And by the way, how does it follow that
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Gazprom ... decided to pay a penalty

          If the funds are "reserved in the report" (damn, what kind of procedure is this ???), this is nothing, IMHO, does not mean request
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 5 May 2018 13: 03
            +2
            "Reserved in volume" - yes, this "means nothing (although for those who know it," reservation "means:" withdrawing from the company's turnover "and transferring to a separate account) -type for parties, any help .... and indeed They decided to stock it up. As for the “saw,” I took it from your “Parliamentary newspaper” (not “RBC”, not “Echo ...”) - go and tell me, are there any “unverified information” horror ..... . urgently need to do something with this ..... wink
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 13: 08
              +1
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              Horror is just some-everywhere

              Stop. Do not drive, but you will not be persecuted.
              As far as I know, you are a literate person. In any case, in financial matters it is sometimes interesting for me to read you.
              I really don’t understand what the article you are referring to refers to:
              Gazprom has reserved funds for the payment of a fine under a transit contract to Naftogaz. This was reported in the company report.. According to the article "fines, penalties, forfeits for violation of the terms of contracts" the amount ...

              Questions:
              - what kind of "report" at the beginning of the fiscal year?
              - where is this "report"? There is nothing similar on Gazprom’s website ...
              And as for what “reservation of funds” is, I somehow know that don’t waste letters.
              1. Antares
                Antares 5 May 2018 23: 01
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                Quote: Golovan Jack
                There is nothing similar on Gazprom’s website ...

                Gazprom will reflect in the financial statements for 2017 the reserve for the payment of 2,56 billion dollars to Neftegaz by the decision of the Stockholm arbitration.
                This was stated by Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Russian concern Andrei Kruglov, reports ANGI.
                According to him, the company's profit will decrease, but there will be no loss.
                “These figures will be reflected in the report. This means that the profit will be less ... We will not show a loss, ”Kruglov said.
                Gazprom will publish RAS statements for 2017 on March 30, IFRS statements will be published at the end of April.
                There is a report, but Kruglov did not lie. There is only a mention of arbitration. The amount is included in the general. There is no separate line.
                http://www.gazprom.ru/investors/disclosure/report
                s / 2017 /
                however, they did not pay, which means they did not.
  35. shuravi
    shuravi 5 May 2018 08: 09
    0
    Quote: LMN
    Those who make the decision most likely do not give a damn about the country, personal interest prevails there, and I try not to take to heart, but it turns out badly, especially if I found the USSR.


    And why did the idea (for example) that Putin is an officer and a soldier be rejected from the beginning, and that he is really, realizing his position and capabilities, trying to repay a debt to his homeland?

    Why are you a real patriot, glad and worried about your homeland, the collapse of the Union, etc., and Putin is a coward and nothing powerful and misunderstanding, not loving the motherland?

    I don’t understand this ..


    He is rather the holder of the common fund.
    Quote: LMN
    He is rather the holder of the common fund.

    You can call Russia and its president, as you like. However, the Western media and politicians are regularly engaged.
    This will not change the essence.



    That's it, the essence does not change.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 08: 31
      0
      Quote: shuravi
      He is rather the holder of the common fund. That's it, the essence does not change.

      What are you ... brutal laughing
      What the hell are you talking about?
    2. LMN
      LMN 5 May 2018 10: 44
      +3
      That's it, the essence does not change.

      Of course. Russia began to eat everything gradually and I like it good
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  37. akunin
    akunin 5 May 2018 10: 23
    +2
    if in 2014 the pressure of Russia (the president and the government) on Ukraine had begun, there would have been no capture of the trawler, war in the Donbas (or it would have already ended), etc., I understand a lot of “would”, but there would have been fewer if Poroshenko’s regime was not recognized. You can call me a “couch strategist,” but if the punishment does not come immediately, but after it, then it loses its educational value (or it should be extremely cruel), remember the first expulsion of American diplomats (after 7 months).
  38. Brigadier
    Brigadier 5 May 2018 10: 29
    +6
    I read the comments of Golovan Jack ....
    Well, just some kind of stupid freak ... Only errors and seeks out.
    SvАеВabout in gАлАve nothing ... sad Еthen .. wassat laughing
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 10: 36
      +1
      Quote: Brigadier
      I read the comments of Golovan Jack

      Why are you, right word, wasting time?
      Read Gardamir with NorDural better ... and you will be happy and prosperous vozdukhoff fellow
    2. Schima68
      Schima68 6 May 2018 00: 29
      0
      He’s not a weirdo, he’s a dog with us, with marshal epaulets,
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  41. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 5 May 2018 12: 52
    +4
    God, what kind of servility and leavened patriotism ...
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 5 May 2018 13: 07
      0
      And what patriotism is not fermented?
  42. silver169
    silver169 5 May 2018 13: 16
    +1
    Yuri Selivanov, well written, accept my applause!
  43. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 5 May 2018 14: 13
    +7
    It is beautifully said that it is personally responsible, today on May 5 they showed on TV-24 what payments will be made to pensioners, veterans of the Great Patriotic War, invalids, etc. . Remember the years 5880-2014, when the authorities doubled their salaries, these are the payments that are paid, the Minister of Finance receives a month, more than 2015 million rubles, but the average pension of veterans will be Just over 1,7 thousand rubles a month, but that’s not bad either if 35: 1730000 = 35400 there is personal responsibility for you, and there are no pensions, but salaries of 48,9, 15, 17 thousand rubles, but there are 20 million RUSSIAN CITIZENS living below the poverty line, and what personal responsibility should they stick. Not good, it's like that, not for HUMAN.
  44. Antares
    Antares 5 May 2018 20: 54
    0
    I agree with the author only in the emotional part — emotions cannot be manifested in decisions. But it’s also impossible to lick the leadership like the author.
    Hitting the government is fair. The diplomatic corps, in general, at first frankly slept at the beginning of the epic. So far, the indignant public has not demanded more stringent measures.
    All these social network angry remarks by Zakharova do not satisfy anyone.
    And then the diplomatic corps began to act. A competent lawyer appeared. The funds and the case quickly went to court, where the formal “Ukrainians / Russians” were sentenced to a fine of 3 thousand UAH (7 thousand rubles) each for leaving a closed port. And that’s all. But for the departure, they clearly prescribed it — once you were judged as Ukrainians by Ukrainian documents.
    They released it, and here the Kharkov diplomatic corps came up with a different transcription of foreign countries and the two flew away, the rest were not allowed. They are now in the embassy (Kiev) of the Russian Federation, where they are safe. Although, logically, they should be fined for using such methods and there was a run over to the consulate (I hope that the case will die out, as Ukrainian and Kremlin partners already want to end the epic and removed it from the agenda )
    By the way, there has been no news for a long time (but it was boiling), and with the captain it’s also cooler.
    A beat on the tail, in the form of inspections of Ukrainian and foreign ships, is a formal “Responsiveness” to partners. Belated and harmful. You need to work in the diplomatic corps! And not by the methods of Chernomyrdin / Zurabov / Zakharova.
    This is Ukraine. There are the same stubborn people as in the Russian Federation. But you can solve everything quietly.
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 6 May 2018 16: 20
      0
      Antares, “decide on the quiet” was possible on May 2 at the trade union house in Odessa, where you “quietly” bottled gas for Natsik, and in the Sea of ​​Azov it will be different.
  45. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 5 May 2018 21: 08
    +3
    What an unpleasant picture of machine gunners. Facial expressions are simply unpleasant. Is it so that the machine gunners fought with such expressions? Some kind of circus. Unpleasant. Some associations are very bad.
  46. Old warrior
    Old warrior 6 May 2018 10: 35
    0
    Why a large-scale war? We would have inflicted a missile and bomb strike on the guilty - we are in our own right, these are our citizens (example of the USA). Impunity has not stopped anyone, it only inflames it even more.
  47. Volchara85
    Volchara85 6 May 2018 13: 17
    0
    It’s not for me to judge, but I won’t judge. But it’s always interesting to listen to the opinions of “managers from the couch” and “tank generals.” I’m glad how many people are educated. And Russian spelling teachers and doctors ....
  48. Romalist
    Romalist 6 May 2018 14: 57
    +2
    Forgive me, but could not stand it! Boiling up!
    They got whiners and "people with a heightened sense of patriotism" in whom everything is bad and everything is "merged."
    I agree with the author of the article: any action has consequences. And for these consequences, pay us with you. The only question is what price. I really want to see a radioactive spot on the site of Kiev, Lviv and some other cities. Four years as we are in Russia, but still do not let go of the desire to avenge Ukraine for their “happy” childhood. And what of it? Of course, you can "pounce" and hit Ukraine, Georgia, Uzbekistan ... (write yourself what you need), or drown the US fleet, or capture Lithuania, so as not to yap. And then what? Thousands and hundreds of thousands of 200s and 300s, ruined lives, families, cities? A bad world, sorry, it’s better than any war.
    Got your cries about putinsil! Putin is also a man and can make mistakes, but he who does nothing is not mistaken. This time, and two - this is that if he "leaked", then you would not be sitting on the internet, but would have chased in the trenches near Chelyabinsk, or would have served the American soldiers for scraps from the table. Thank God Putin is extremely rare.

    Putin returned the Crimea. Now you can freely dabble not only in Sochi but also in Yalta, Alushta, Sudak, Feodosia, Saki. Putin said the bridge! The bridge is almost completed in 4 years. Before that, Ukrainians broke comedy for 20 years. No need to say anything. This bridge is already sick. Traffic jams day and night. Caravans of trucks through the streets. At night, the walls walk from them. From construction equipment already ripples in the eyes. From piling, the ground bounces underfoot. But here is the bridge: to see it from the window. Vova kept his word. Not without jambs of course, but the result is visible. And the highway to the bridge is being built. Personally walked on it. So Vova "leaked" then? And how many roads in the city were re-rolled? In two layers. All by one. Not any patching. In general, the whole city is rummaged, dug up, some communications are changing, the park has been restored ... You can list for a long time.

    And you have a hysteria that Putin did not drown the American aircraft carrier for the amusement of the public, and in the place with him the whole country is in blood. Who are you after that?
    ,
    1. Volchara85
      Volchara85 6 May 2018 20: 42
      0
      Here I am talking about too. All this is “I would be in his place” from the couch. It gets. And it’s good that everyone is in their place. So calm.
  49. victor50
    victor50 7 May 2018 12: 53
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    In Durkee conducted an Internet, or what? belay

    Why doubt it? We regularly read you!
  50. Ukrainaz
    Ukrainaz 8 May 2018 19: 03
    0
    Quote: Petr petrov
    And who chose him !!!!!!! ?????


    Well, I chose ... what next? You ... what is responsible for all of Russia and abroad?