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German media: C-300 not a hindrance to the F-35 Israeli Air Force

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The German magazine Die Welt published an article stating that "clouds hung over the bilateral relations between Russia and Israel." The authors of the article, Gil Yaron (Tel Aviv) and Pavel Lokshin (Moscow), write that the position of Russia and Israel on the Syrian issue is to blame for everything. The authors declare that these positions are “on opposite sides of the barricades”. It is noteworthy that the title of the article “Putin takes revenge and jeopardizes relations with Israel” itself appoints the main “culprit” of this situation. And this culprit authors in the German magazine see Vladimir Putin. To whom exactly Putin is avenging, - the authors concretize, to put it mildly, not quite clearly.


German media: C-300 not a hindrance to the F-35 Israeli Air Force


From the article:
Since the fall of 2015, Moscow has supported Syrian leader Bashar Al-Assad, while Israelis are bombing pro-Iranian forces that are fighting on his side. Even in this tense situation, countries adhered to their long-standing partnerships. After the attacks of the United States, France and the United Kingdom on Syria, Moscow announced that it intends to deliver modern C-300 air defense systems to Syria. Until now, Russia, at the request of Israel, refused such supplies. Russian media quoted clear words from Moscow: if Israel attacks the new systems, it will have "disastrous consequences." Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman replied: “If someone shoots our planes, we will respond. Israel will even attack Russian weapons systems in Syria if they use against Israel. "


This, according to the German media, could lead Russia and Israel to a collision.

Of material:
What happens if the Russian air defense missile systems will actually be in Syria? Militarily C-300 no problem for the Israeli Air Force. Israel is armed with the latest F-35 aircraft, which C-300 is not a hindrance. But at the same time to suffer - and for a long time - good relations between Moscow and Jerusalem can.
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    1. maxim947
      maxim947 3 May 2018 14: 53
      +11
      Only one thing is clear, someone really wants a Jewish plane to be shot down, and in every possible way constantly provokes us to do this, the former goal is to untwist it later in full.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 3 May 2018 15: 02
        +12
        Or it may even come to the point of knocking it down!
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 May 2018 15: 28
          +9
          Maybe, of course. They began to fight in February.
          They will soon become the main fighter-striker of the Air Force,
          workhorse instead of the F-16. And without losses in the war does not happen.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 3 May 2018 15: 39
            +5
            Your defense minister and security chief fly to Moscow every three weeks. It used to be covered, but now it’s stopped. Therefore, there is an exchange of military and intelligence information.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 3 May 2018 15: 56
            +5
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And without losses in the war does not happen.

            Wars with whom? Is Israel at war with the Russian Federation? Che for nonsense about ...
            Israel is armed with the latest F-35 aircraft, which the S-300 is not a hindrance to.

            If Israel continues to get in the way and climb into Syria, without soap, the answer will not be long in coming.
            Do you really want to add gasoline to the Middle East bonfire? If you have a claim to Iran, where does Syria? Or burn with a desire to have a bite with Russia?
            1. Strips
              Strips 3 May 2018 17: 05
              +8
              Quote: NEXUS
              Wars with whom? Is Israel at war with the Russian Federation? Che for nonsense about ...


              Israel and Syria are at war. When the USSR helped the Arabs and the Soviet military perished at the hands of the Israeli military and vice versa, this did not mean the USSR and Israel at war.



              Quote: NEXUS
              If Israel continues to get in the way and climb into Syria, without soap, the answer will not be long in coming.


              Hardly.



              Quote: NEXUS
              Do you really want to add gasoline to the Middle East bonfire? If you have a claim to Iran, where does Syria?


              Because Iran is creating its military bases in Syria and is trying to settle near the border with Israel itself and with the help of Hezbollah terrorists and at the same time supports terrorists who are fighting against Israel.

              There is no Iran and its Hezbollah terrorists in Syria - there are no Israeli attacks on Syria.

              Everything is simple good





              Quote: NEXUS
              Or burn with a desire to have a bite with Russia?


              What for? There is good coordination between Russia and Israel, and as long as Russia does not intervene in a showdown between Israel and Iran in Syria, everything is fine.
              I think that Russia is quite happy with the Israeli strikes, which reduce Iran’s influence in Syria.
      2. Sodoh
        Sodoh 3 May 2018 15: 03
        +5
        Quote: maxim947
        Someone really wants a Jewish plane to be shot down,
        Uncles in dresses in the government of Tehran?
        1. Topotun
          Topotun 3 May 2018 15: 16
          +11
          Rather, uncles under a star-striped. Iran does not need a war with the entire "democratic" world.
          1. Sodoh
            Sodoh 3 May 2018 15: 19
            +8
            Quote: Topotun
            Iran does not need a war with the entire "democratic" world.
            Need, not need - they begged her.
            1. Topotun
              Topotun 3 May 2018 15: 21
              +14
              Well, yes, as requested by Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., etc. ..... Yes, and we strongly suspect this list.
              1. For example
                For example 3 May 2018 15: 26
                +15
                Quote: Sodoh
                Uncles in dresses in the government of Tehran?

                In Iran, uncles in dresses do not go, because they are uncles. You are confused. It is in the states that the buggers live and are supported by the president.
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              2. Sodoh
                Sodoh 3 May 2018 15: 27
                +6
                Quote: Topotun
                Afghanistan
                This is the USSR begged, for sure. still do not go away. And do not go into other people's affairs.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 39
                  +9
                  Quote: Sodoh
                  This is the USSR begged, for sure. still do not go away. And do not go into other people's affairs.

                  Bu-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!! If I begin to list cases now. when the country whose flag you are writing intervened in "other people's affairs", then my comment will not be missed due to the excessive amount of text)))
                  Well, you are so naive there in America - since the 1870s, you’re only actively engaging in these very strange affairs, sometimes even on other continents ...

                  There’s even a pro-American newspaper attack USA, France and Great Britain to Syria "- note what formulations ...
            2. APASUS
              APASUS 3 May 2018 19: 32
              0
              Quote: Sodoh
              Need, not need - they begged her.

              Iran needs a war, but it is the United States that wants to get out of the deal with Iran.
              1. NF68
                NF68 3 May 2018 19: 39
                +1
                Quote: APASUS
                Quote: Sodoh
                Need, not need - they begged her.

                Iran needs a war, but it is the United States that wants to get out of the deal with Iran.


                It is unlikely that Iran really needs this war, especially with such a balance of power.
            3. 72jora72
              72jora72 4 May 2018 11: 51
              0
              Need, not need - they begged her.
              Do you personally go to war with Iran? Judging by your name, already in 08 you "begged" from Russia in Ossetia.
        2. maxim947
          maxim947 3 May 2018 15: 27
          +6
          Uncles in dresses in the government of Tehran?

          uncles in dresses fight off themselves, and dream when they are left alone, but those who walk under your flag will be delighted.
        3. ultra
          ultra 3 May 2018 16: 09
          +1
          Quote: Sodoh
          Uncles in dresses in the government of Tehran?

          Rather, uncles in suits from Brioni from the Phasington regional committee! laughing
      3. gippernano
        gippernano 3 May 2018 17: 34
        +3
        What to promote? that the F-35 is not suitable for any gate or army? Everyone burns with impatience to see how this wunderwaffle lands. Although of course they can’t say directly.
      4. Maz
        Maz 3 May 2018 18: 57
        +5
        Kaneshno is not a hindrance, because these cowardly people fly with the codes of combat aircraft of the US Air Force, hide behind the skin of star-striped allies. They themselves are afraid to say sho they are Israeli planes. Otherwise, they will be immediately demolished from the sky, not even from -300, but from -200. And with the stripes we have an agreement. Well, these are used. Dirty work, unclean, nasty even. Sorry, Israeli colleagues, but no respect. End justifies the means. With this slogan, the Nazis destroyed Jews in concentration camps. Are you clearing the living space? Oh well.
        1. Zina389
          Zina389 3 May 2018 23: 14
          +1
          // And we have a contract with striped //
          Who do we have? What codes are you talking about?
    2. Dormidont
      Dormidont 3 May 2018 14: 56
      +1
      Maybe bad
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 3 May 2018 15: 02
      +7
      Funny, the Germans penetrate the Jews "weakly", see the rain! laughing
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 3 May 2018 15: 16
        +13
        Quote: Major Yurik
        It's funny, the Germans are punching the Jews


        Authors: Gil Yaron (Tel Aviv) and Pavel Lokshin (Moscow). Here is the question: which of them is German?)))
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 3 May 2018 17: 16
          +1
          Quote: Volodin
          Quote: Major Yurik
          It's funny, the Germans are punching the Jews


          Authors: Gil Yaron (Tel Aviv) and Pavel Lokshin (Moscow). Here is the question: which of them is German?)))

          No, no, these two countrymen in any way! I'm talking about the media, they are kind of German, though ......! belay
      2. gippernano
        gippernano 3 May 2018 17: 36
        0
        No, they F-35 in a coffin and white slippers want to see.
  2. sir_obs
    sir_obs 3 May 2018 14: 52
    +2
    So let's see
    The main thing is not to be shy to apply and do not wait for the border to cross. From where shot in Syria, there and wet. And then they will immediately tell how they have made all the weak.
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      1. Logall
        Logall 3 May 2018 15: 05
        +5
        Quote: Greyhound
        Here we are!

        Change your nickname, Greyhound ... Who and where did you get? Where did you go? If you are about yourself, then specify ...
        And to be honest, then everyone got there ... Nobody wants to retreat ... And nobody wants to die!
      2. sir_obs
        sir_obs 3 May 2018 15: 06
        +4
        The Germans also want to sell super-invisible wunderwaffles, just an advertising company.
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 3 May 2018 14: 55
    +3
    Cool hutspa
    1. 9PA
      9PA 3 May 2018 15: 02
      0
      Let's get revenge for the bear
    2. askort154
      askort154 3 May 2018 15: 07
      +6
      ..... Militarily, the S-300 is not a problem for the Israeli Air Force. Israel is armed with the latest F-35 aircraft, which the S-300 is not a hindrance to.


      If so, why so much noise ?! Where is the logic ?! fool
      1. MadCat
        MadCat 3 May 2018 15: 51
        +7
        Quote: askort154
        If so, then why so much noise ?! Where is the logic ?! fool

        because the C300 is a threat to civil aviation, and not that their problem is destroyed due to the mountains with planning bombs.
        1. Gogia
          Gogia 3 May 2018 16: 08
          +6
          For civil aviation, the threat is the C75 and the old CUBs. The S-300 in the 80s under the F-117 was already sharpened - under low glare. It’s just that the S-300 will be able to guaranteedly hit the Israeli Air Force planes on takeoff - above 1000 m. But you can throw bombs from a low height, and there are MANPADS. All the specifics of the work of the Air Force will have to be changed.
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 41
          +2
          Quote: MadCat
          because the C300 is a threat to civil aviation, and not that their problem is destroyed due to the mountains with planning bombs.

          Oga, so why didn’t they destroy a lot of them with these planning bombs because of the mountains?
          1. shahor
            shahor 4 May 2018 11: 48
            +1
            Quote: Albert1988
            Oga, so why didn’t they destroy a lot of them with these planning bombs because of the mountains?
            Reply Quote Complaint

            Last time - 3 days ago. Iranian missile depot at the Syrian base of 47 brigade. 40 km from the location of the Russian S-400 complexes. Did not hear?
      2. ultra
        ultra 3 May 2018 16: 11
        +3
        Jew and logic are incompatible things! laughing
        1. Zina389
          Zina389 3 May 2018 23: 19
          +2
          mind not to understand Michael request
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 May 2018 15: 05
    +5
    Magazines are completely without a tower. How many Israeli Air Force F-35? Even if we assume that the "flying penguins" are really not afraid of the S-300 ... What would seem to raise doubts .. And the rest of the 15th, 16th? Will they dress the burqa? wassat
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 3 May 2018 15: 16
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And the rest of the 15th, 16th? Will they dress the burqa?

      Windbreaker winked
    2. Strips
      Strips 3 May 2018 15: 18
      +8
      F35 will make C300
      And the rest gouges the rest.
      1. figwam
        figwam 3 May 2018 17: 19
        +4
        Quote: Tiras
        F35 will make C300
        And the rest gouges the rest.

        Then the tactical and the Kyrgyz Republic will take out all the airfields along with the entire Israeli air force, and these will be disastrous consequences.
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 42
        +2
        Quote: Tiras
        F35 will make C300

        Of course - so they’ll directly take it and take it out))))
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 May 2018 15: 25
      +8
      Today - 9 pieces. At the end of next year there will be 22 pieces.
      In just 3 years, at the end of 2021- there will be 33 pieces.
      Another 17 - a little later. Total ordered 50 pieces.
      F-16s begin to be decommissioned from the Air Force as F-35s arrive.
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 3 May 2018 16: 29
        +3
        In Yugoslavia, too, "inconspicuous" from heaven, but lowered on the asphalt.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 May 2018 16: 33
          +7
          They lowered one. And then on an optical device, without a radar.
          But the rest of the F-117 made there more than 800 successful bombing.
          And in Iraq too.
          1. gurzuf
            gurzuf 3 May 2018 16: 37
            +1
            The main end result.
          2. figwam
            figwam 3 May 2018 17: 08
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            But the rest of the F-117 made there more than 800 successful bombing.
            And in Iraq too.

            Well, yes, and they were quickly written off ...
          3. Albert1988
            Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 43
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            They lowered one. And then on an optical device, without a radar.

            And here you are, my friend, oh how wrong you are - it was on the radar that the old "meter" Soviet radar landed it)))
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 3 May 2018 23: 09
              +2
              The officer who shot down said in an interview that he was pointing at a French optical device with which the Yugoslavs upgraded the old Soviet systems.
              And in the gap between the clouds he caught the F-117 in the sight.
              Then the senior air defense officers, who also wanted fame, “darted” this shooter
              and started a blizzard about radars.
          4. Maz
            Maz 4 May 2018 15: 17
            +1
            Yeah, the S-200 was also aiming at f-16 at the open sight from the AK-47 .... Yeah, We heard and saw how they successfully bombed the capital, civilian buildings, and instead of military installations sausages were scattered “microgals” scattered like sources E-magnetic radiation. No need to fool us about the F-117 in Yugoslavia. After all the bombing and screaming, the Serbs came out without a single conceivable loss. And your NATO heroes of safe bombing were on the eve of a heart attack when they saw the columns of the Serbian army leaving by agreement on the allotted territory. the same tactics at the Israeli Air Force. The last feint touches - the invulnerable F-35s - used the codes of the US Air Force combat aircraft - so that they would not be shot down during the last attack. Well, yes, we have an agreement with the Americans. Cowards and unscrupulous.
  5. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 3 May 2018 15: 08
    +3
    So let the chosen ones bomb the Iranians on the territory of Iran, and not on the territory of sovereign Syria ...
    1. Strips
      Strips 3 May 2018 15: 19
      +7
      Quote: Ingvar0401
      So let the chosen ones bomb the Iranians on the territory of Iran, and not on the territory of sovereign Syria ...


      Let the terrorists of Iran - Hezbollah act at least outside in Syria, then Israel will not bomb in Syria. wink
      This is because Iran pays and supplies weapons to the terrorists around Israel - Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic jihad.

      Well, let Iran not act through its terrorists, but itself, and then we'll see hi
      1. Yasen Ping
        Yasen Ping 3 May 2018 16: 07
        +7
        And when Israel bombed the nuclear center in Syria, he also bombed terrorists? you are our storyteller.
        1. Strips
          Strips 3 May 2018 16: 10
          +8
          Quote: Yasen Pin
          And when Israel bombed the nuclear center in Syria, he also bombed terrorists?


          Then, Israel bombed a nuclear reactor, not a nuclear center - in April 2011, the IAEA officially confirmed that this place was a nuclear reactor.

          And he did the right thing, that he bombed.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 44
            +2
            Quote: Tiras
            Then, Israel bombed a nuclear reactor, not a nuclear center - in April 2011, the IAEA officially confirmed that this place was a nuclear reactor.

            And why did Israel not please the nuclear reactor in Syria? And where then is the extensive radioactive contamination?
      2. Gogia
        Gogia 3 May 2018 16: 13
        +7
        Go and negotiate with Syria. You yourself fed the barmalei, treated them, supplied them with weapons. In Aleppo, they didn’t take yours for you before. Your General Secretary then came to Moscow to quietly settle. And it was necessary to the Air Force and CNN and Reuters - to invite all and to interrogate on a camera to remove. You are essentially aggressive. And at the expense of your escapade - the USSR set Arabs against Israel. Without the USSR, Israel would not have existed. The monument to Stalin in Yershalaim is not visible.
        1. Strips
          Strips 3 May 2018 16: 59
          +8
          Quote: Gogia
          Go and negotiate with Syria


          Tried - Assad prefers Iran and its terrorists.

          Quote: Gogia
          You yourself fed the barmalei, treated them, supplied weapons


          This is a known lie.

          Quote: Gogia
          Your General Secretary then came to Moscow to quietly settle.


          And again by.

          Quote: Gogia
          settle. And it was necessary to the Air Force and CNN and Reuters - to invite all and to interrogate on a camera to remove.


          Something has incurred you ..

          Quote: Gogia
          You are essentially aggressive.


          It’s you who are aggressive, and Israel, when they don’t climb on it, does not bother anyone.


          Quote: Gogia
          And at the expense of your escapade, the USSR set Arabs against Israel. Without the USSR, Israel would not have existed. The monument to Stalin in Yershalaim is not visible.


          Your fantasies have no limits.
          Israel would like this Stalin or not.
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 4 May 2018 12: 21
            0
            Your fantasies have no limits.
            Israel would like this Stalin or not.
            The clearness of your consciousness smiles at me laughing . Keep observing.
      3. DENNIS
        DENNIS 3 May 2018 19: 06
        0
        They occupied the golans, occupied the igil there, and they want to tear off another piece of land to the sound of war, that's all their interest
    2. flicker
      flicker 3 May 2018 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar0401
      So let the chosen ones bomb the Iranians on the territory of Iran, and not on the territory of sovereign Syria ...

      This is the basis of the whole provocative calculation, the Iranians are beaten in Syria, but Iran cannot answer Israel in Syria, and will be forced to answer in Israel - and this is aggression, after which there is a press clamor, a question in the UN - they say, aggression from Iran with facts (and without facts bend, and even more so with facts). But Iran understands this game and answers differently.
      We have not witnessed the birth of Israel, but it seems we will be witnesses to its end.
      1. Zina389
        Zina389 3 May 2018 23: 37
        +2
        Right witnesses Egova. Or maybe the witnesses of Saddam, Gaddaf and Ben Daden? In short think you will sit in witnesses stop
        1. flicker
          flicker 4 May 2018 00: 16
          +2
          Israel is sentenced by its own ally and master of the United States.
          While the United States was confidently sitting on the global Olympus, Israel felt more than free. As soon as the United States began to crawl from this Olympus, it was not up to Israel, in order to at least somehow slow down this creep, the states were ready to sacrifice their ally and throw him in the heat of war in the BV. Those in Israel who understand that the IDF is not an army, but rather the police that are unable to protect Israel from a serious war, want to avoid this war in which the US is pushing them - but many Israelis brought up on tales of the IDF’s strength and already accustomed to US support naively believe that they are able to get involved in the war in the BV and win.
          So the end of Israel is not a metaphor, but quite a reality, at least for the current leadership of Israel.
  6. flicker
    flicker 3 May 2018 15: 11
    +4
    This, according to the German media, could lead Russia and Israel to a collision.
    If we choose between the clash between Russia and the USA, and the clash between Russia and Israel, then for us the second clash is definitely more beneficial. Because it will be just a clash - the Israeli missile defense will be neutralized, then the aviation (it’s enough to break the runway) and that’s all: the people are whole and Israel’s “teeth” are knocked out. True, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon can seize the moment and seize the territory of Israel, and Turkey, Saudi Arabia can join them.
    However, I hope that this will not come to an end.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 3 May 2018 15: 58
      +6
      Quote: flicker
      If we choose between the clash between Russia and the USA, and the clash between Russia and Israel, then for us the second clash is definitely more beneficial. Because it will be just a clash - the Israeli missile defense will be neutralized, then the aviation (it’s enough to break the runway) and that’s all: the people are whole and Israel’s “teeth” are knocked out. True, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon can seize the moment and seize the territory of Israel, and Turkey, Saudi Arabia can join them.

      it was smooth on paper but forgot about the ravines, Israel, of course, will raise its paws to the top and the falcons will bomb as in a parade. Then just do not need to shout "anastosasho" when they demolish together with the Americans the only base under the foundation with planning bombs. Do you even know that the Israeli Air Force is constantly patrolling the border?
      1. flicker
        flicker 3 May 2018 16: 02
        +4
        Do you even know that the Israeli Air Force is constantly patrolling the border?
        ... subtle Jewish humor?
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 3 May 2018 18: 24
        +2
        Well, that's 7 points on the Richter scale ....
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 46
        +1
        Quote: MadCat
        Then just do not need to yell "anastozasho" when they demolish together with the Americans the only base under the foundation with planning bombs


        Oh, well, a super-duper weapon was found! But nothing that the same S-300 has a larger range of action than these planning bombs? And what to prevent "because of the mountains" there are AWACS aircraft there?
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 3 May 2018 19: 51
          +2
          Bears are capable of flying, but so that they can take off, they need enough warm air, otherwise the muscles of their wings will not be able to work, so they rarely fly .....
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 3 May 2018 22: 18
            +1
            There are a lot of people who are capable of flying, who at first glance should not fly at all))))
    2. stone
      stone 3 May 2018 16: 29
      +6
      If we choose between the clash between Russia and the USA, and the clash between Russia and Israel, then for us the second clash is definitely more beneficial. Because it will be just a clash - the Israeli missile defense will be neutralized, then the aviation (it’s enough to break the runway) and that’s all: the people are whole and Israel’s “teeth” are knocked out. True, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon can seize the moment and seize the territory of Israel, and Turkey, Saudi Arabia can join them.
      However, I hope that this will not come to an end.

      Lord, where are you from? from which sofa you are taken! You at least imagine the difference in the quantity and quality of the Israeli and Russian air forces in this theater. And this difference is clearly not in Russia's favor.
      1. flicker
        flicker 3 May 2018 16: 51
        +3
        Lord, where are you from? from which sofa you are taken! You at least imagine the difference in the quantity and quality of the armed forces of Israel and the United States. And this difference is clearly not in favor of Israel.
        1. stone
          stone 3 May 2018 17: 13
          +3
          Yes, I can imagine laughing On this theater, Israel is a very serious player. So it’s stupid to have a couple of dozen planes, and a couple of ships to consider a collision with at least those, at least with others.
          1. flicker
            flicker 3 May 2018 19: 20
            +3
            very serious player.
            Very serious ... who for some reason didn’t cope with Hezbollah for the last time. Smash the runway and a few dozen aircraft will not be able to take off. How many airfields are in Israel, how many on each runway, how many cruise missiles are needed to cut wings throughout the Israeli fleet. And without wings you are no worse than Palestinians with stones.
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 48
        +1
        Quote: stone
        Lord, where are you from? from which sofa you are taken! You at least imagine the difference in the quantity and quality of the Israeli and Russian air forces in this theater. And this difference is clearly not in Russia's favor.

        Russia. by the way. it may not be connected to this theater, but Iran itself will joyfully provide, so to speak, airspace, but I completely agree with you - we must pray that it never comes to that.
    3. danan
      danan 3 May 2018 16: 50
      +4
      Nicholas is your galovas hot? in the marazilnik case.
      1. flicker
        flicker 3 May 2018 17: 15
        +5
        laughing For the Israeli climate, this is probably true
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 4 May 2018 12: 39
        +1
        Nicholas is your galovas hot? in the marazilnik case.
        When I was in Egypt and Israel (traveled to the Holy Places), I was amazed at the state of Israeli cities (especially Jerusalem and Ashkelon), so you need to be able to squander it. Now I began to understand why ............ dirt in the heads, dirt in the streets under the houses, everything is natural.
  7. canister
    canister 3 May 2018 15: 11
    +3
    Until the 2018 World Cup, the Russian Federation will not make sudden gestures, but
    then we'll see.
    1. Patriot5000
      Patriot5000 3 May 2018 15: 21
      +1
      that's about how I think so. And then the Paralympics were already boycotted in Sochi.
  8. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 3 May 2018 15: 13
    +7
    "They will beat not according to the passport, but on the brazen well ... face ..."
  9. sir_obs
    sir_obs 3 May 2018 15: 13
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar0401
    So let the chosen ones bomb the Iranians on the territory of Iran, and not on the territory of sovereign Syria ...


    Well, when the hosts will bomb, then they will catch up.
  10. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 3 May 2018 15: 15
    +2
    Gil Yaron (Tel Aviv) and Pavel Lokshin (Moscow)

    Jew and Russian wrote in German! magazine laughing cool!
    1. canister
      canister 3 May 2018 15: 40
      +2
      Hitler shot himself again in hell when he found out that Russia wants to send troops to Ukraine, and the German chancellor (a woman in trousers) impedes this in every way.
  11. Topotun
    Topotun 3 May 2018 15: 18
    +3
    Well, after all - again the debate about who is better. Time and hostilities will show, while there is nothing to argue about. Here, one should rather be afraid that the world is pushing for these military operations very intensely .....
  12. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 3 May 2018 15: 25
    0
    Dear Israeli partners, for us, more important than Assadushka, so do not see him the S-300. In general, any of our movement in the SAR only sucks us there. The initiative is entirely with the Jews and the United States with allies. You can’t even imagine a situation that could sooner or later be called a victory. It is regrettable. And disturbing.
    1. flicker
      flicker 3 May 2018 15: 37
      +4
      The initiative is entirely with the Jews and the United States with allies.
      This is not an initiative, but convulsions, such cramps that occur independently of the will, caused by some kind of pathology.
    2. danan
      danan 3 May 2018 17: 12
      +1
      It is regrettable. And disturbing. "
      Actually, in my opinion, the authors of the article are wrong in accusing Putin. Just as the GDP represents a moderate side in the camp of influencers. We recall that the General Staff voiced a threat to put the C300. For what purpose ? Why now? Didn’t expect Israel’s reaction? Answers should be given by Russian readers.
      Someone said You can’t give the generals the right to declare war.
      I don’t know how things will go further, but An attempt to intimidate Israel did not work.
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov 3 May 2018 18: 05
        +1
        We recall: the General Staff voiced a threat to put the C300

        The General Staff, without agreement with the political leadership, is afraid to say a word, no matter what happens, not to mention the threats and, especially, the supply of weapons, which is not at all within its competence.
        I don’t know how things will go further, but the attempt to intimidate Israel did not work.

        Who will scare him with such a lobby upstairs? This is just a request - do not bomb heavily, please, otherwise people do not understand and are ashamed.
        1. danan
          danan 3 May 2018 18: 30
          +6
          believe the voice of "one of the people": -Nobody in Israel is looking for a confrontation with Russia. Everyone wants friendship with Russia and enjoy its success. But there will be no compromise on security. Patriotism is real, not ostentatious. And in times of danger they’re tightening hands to each other, ready to help.
      2. Maz
        Maz 4 May 2018 15: 25
        0
        Who to scare? You suffer only because of American patronage.
  13. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 3 May 2018 16: 05
    +3
    Quote: Tiras
    F35 will make C300
    And the rest gouges the rest.

    We welcome the specialist on c300, I wonder when you write this, think or so, just to write?
    1. Strips
      Strips 3 May 2018 16: 11
      +7
      Quote: Yasen Pin
      We welcome the specialist on c300, I wonder when you write this, think or so, just to write?


      Do not poke please hi
      And yes, I think and I advise you winked
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 50
        +1
        Quote: Tiras
        And yes, I think and I advise you

        How to say - a famous turkey also thought, though he didn’t advise ...
  14. Abram
    Abram 3 May 2018 16: 16
    +2
    most likely it is. S-300 complex was sold in the United States in the mid 90's, Greece has in service. i.e. Lockheed, sculpting their miracle of design thought, had an idea about the capabilities of the complex. I think in case of conflict he will dump a bunch of planning bombs before entering the detection zone and leave smile
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 51
      +2
      Quote: Abram
      most likely it is. S-300 complex was sold in the United States in the mid 90's

      And do you think that after that he never upgraded?
  15. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 3 May 2018 16: 18
    +3
    The article serves as "another drop" in the matter of canceling the treaty on Iran’s nuclear program ..
  16. dolfi1
    dolfi1 3 May 2018 16: 19
    +7
    All this is speculation, neither Russia nor Israel needs clashes. Putin and Netanyahu agree as always, I hope. All these dances of zhurnalyug and politicians from all sides, just a desire to be noted in the current topic. Of course, the interests of Russia and Israel do not coincide in many respects, but for this there is a direct line of communication between them. I think, by the way, Russia does not need the Iranians to completely crush Assad.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 51
      +4
      At least one voice of reason sounded today!
  17. Livonetc
    Livonetc 3 May 2018 16: 26
    +2
    Let them chatter about how space f35 plow open spaces.
    Meanwhile, another important logistics project has been launched - India Iran Russia Europe.
  18. ADT
    ADT 3 May 2018 16: 28
    +5
    The topic is perfect does not make sense. If they want to "endure" the s-300 or its descendants, then with modern weapons, they will "endure" and not really strain. And if they fly without destroying anti-aircraft defense, then any systems, and older than the 300th, are dangerous, even for stealth aircraft. The differences are only in the degree of this danger.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 52
      +3
      Quote: ADT
      The topic is perfect does not make sense. If they want to "endure" the s-300 or its descendants, then with modern weapons, they will "endure" and not really strain.

      Question immediately - WHAT will they endure? And will those who stand stand calmly and wait until they are brought out?
      1. ADT
        ADT 3 May 2018 20: 29
        +4
        The answer right away is what. For a more serious answer, you will have to write an entire article, which will be higher in level than this site. And what does it mean to wait? They should be able to understand that something is happening. But actually this is an interesting, but great conversation, and the essence of these forums is boltology. Yazh voiced his understanding of the current situation Means of attack - air defense.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 3 May 2018 22: 16
          +3
          Quote: ADT
          The answer right away is what.

          Very informative answer, thanks)))
          Quote: ADT
          For a more serious answer, you will have to write an entire article, which will be higher in level than this site

          And you look, a modest person ...
          Quote: ADT
          And what does it mean to wait? They should be able to understand that something is happening.

          That is, nobody is watching what is happening there - neither satellites, nor ground-based radars, nor AWACS aircraft, nobody - everyone is sitting and their ears are hanging ...
          Quote: ADT
          Yazh voiced his understanding of the current situation Means of attack - air defense.

          Exactly - this is your understanding, but how does it, this understanding of yours, correlate with the real state of affairs?
          1. ADT
            ADT 4 May 2018 06: 40
            +2
            I have no doubt that everything is tracked, from the roll-out of aircraft from the hangars, to the slightest changes in the "standard" radar picture displayed by the whole spectrum of surveillance systems, from ground to air. I have no doubt that the maximum variant is possible, in which several Sy-300 complexes are handed over to the Syrians, secretly pumped to 400, overlapping and covering each other, they are protected by shells and tori, around the placer it is "flexible" with willows, just pumped shilka, all old from 75 x to the 200s (also pumped and connected to a common network), well, of course cubes with beeches. And the Syrians all know this very well (well, or who will sit there in their uniform). Russia needs to prove that its goods are worthwhile.
            So I have no doubt that this is likely. Well then, and you do not doubt that this probability is taken into account. The task is divided into components to the maximum, and each is solved as optimally as possible. Airplanes are now rolling out of the hangars every day, for educational purposes they go along certain routes, and there are probably a lot of uncertain noise on the air, which, in random order, are weaker, then stronger ....
            What does my modesty have to do with it? It was because of such remarks that these forums turned into a garbage can, on which it makes no sense to list known weapons systems and to guess about the "closed ones".
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 4 May 2018 18: 01
              0
              As a result, everything rests on the fact that you and I, ordinary people, cannot access a huge amount of data that, for obvious reasons, is secret, which means that all our discussions on this subject are “boltology,” as you actually put it.
              1. ADT
                ADT 5 May 2018 20: 18
                0
                In principle, yes, it rests on two things.
                The first - the feeling that a negative selection of members of the forum has been made, and they will openly speak out here, sharing their thoughts on the army theme, already looks unreasonable. This is what he had in mind when he said that a serious approach to any topic here is already overstated in relation to the forum.
                Second - here you are almost right, we don’t know much. But even so, from what is open, in my opinion, is enough to convince that so far the means of attack are superior to the capabilities of air defense. This is just math.
        2. XXXIII
          XXXIII 3 May 2018 22: 22
          +2
          Quote: ADT
          The answer right away is what. For a more serious answer, you will have to write an entire article, which will be higher in level than this site. And what does it mean to wait? They should be able to understand that something is happening. But actually this is an interesting, but great conversation, and the essence of these forums is boltology. Yazh voiced his understanding of the current situation Means of attack - air defense.

          You are lying, as you awake and how to eliminate air defense?
          Here the question of danger in the article and in others is posed in the fact that if the Israeli Air Force aircraft enter the Syrian sky without warning, then that same bang can happen. From what a dangerous situation may arise, therefore discussions are going on so that the Israeli General Staff does not feel its invulnerability, but clearly coordinates its actions with other participants. In general, you simply do not need to show initiative and initiative, which can complicate the situation in Syria and not only ....
          1. ADT
            ADT 4 May 2018 06: 47
            +2
            Kindergarten. What is this "you're all lying" expressed? And according to the results of the raids, is it not obvious that amateur activity has nothing to do with it?
        3. 72jora72
          72jora72 4 May 2018 12: 41
          +2
          They should be able to understand that something is happening
          How would you then have time to understand why suddenly you turned into humus .......
          1. ADT
            ADT 4 May 2018 14: 40
            +2
            The main thing is that such humus will not be born.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 5 May 2018 18: 58
              0
              Fortunately, they are not born - they become humors, including those who very often turn into humus who scream very zealously about how everyone will be carried out / rolled out / bombed into the Stone Age and further down the list ...
              Although it is worth noting that some citizens in many countries around the world, even during their lives, turn into humus under the influence of modern media ...
              1. ADT
                ADT 5 May 2018 20: 51
                0
                Here, apparently, you have a massive degeneration there .. although many are initially prepared for this.
  19. sir_obs
    sir_obs 3 May 2018 16: 29
    +1
    Quote: Abram
    he will dump a bunch of planning bombs before entering the detection zone and leave


    They are planning, not waving their wings. Aircraft will be discovered long before they drop something there.
    1. Abram
      Abram 3 May 2018 17: 00
      +2
      GBU-39 plans to 100 km. who will find them with their low ESR? military cheburashki-hearing-makers? smile
      1. DENNIS
        DENNIS 3 May 2018 19: 15
        +1
        They will set up an ambush and bring down it. There, one complex will stand in the middle of the desert and wait until it is blown up.
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 5 May 2018 19: 01
        0
        Quote: Abram
        GBU-39 plans to 100 km.

        To plan for 100 kilometers, you need to drop them from a very decent height, and at that height the carrier will be found ...
  20. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 May 2018 16: 42
    +1
    Clear business is not a hindrance, it is a kirdyk!
  21. nafanal
    nafanal 3 May 2018 16: 42
    +1
    Practice is the criterion of truth .... I have not misinterpreted anything? Take risks with the health of the pilot fi35
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 May 2018 19: 53
      0
      So no one will do this, that's the whole point wink
  22. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 3 May 2018 16: 53
    0
    Only defense is obviously a losing strategy. Especially against aviation. We must counter-strike with ballistic and krillat missiles at the airbase, anti-missile and air defense radars, and so on.
  23. anjey
    anjey 3 May 2018 18: 21
    0
    again, this miracle was carried out, this time by the Hans ...., probably in justification of its imposition for Germany, the Yankees
  24. Miflecet
    Miflecet 3 May 2018 20: 57
    0
    Quote: Dym71
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And the rest of the 15th, 16th? Will they dress the burqa?

    Windbreaker winked
    1. Miflecet
      Miflecet 3 May 2018 20: 59
      +1
      I think that would be more suitable for dress code Yermolk.
  25. Mentat
    Mentat 3 May 2018 21: 04
    +1
    Quote: MadCat
    Quote: askort154
    If so, then why so much noise ?! Where is the logic ?! fool

    because the C300 is a threat to civil aviation

    Have you collapsed from the nearest fig tree?

    not that their problem is to be destroyed because of the mountains with planning bombs.

    C-300 are covered by short-range air defense. Therefore, to destroy them, with the competent construction of air defense in the Russian doctrine, is not just a problem, but a big problem.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 3 May 2018 21: 22
      +1
      Well, so your problem is solved, last week it was decided ...
  26. Mentat
    Mentat 3 May 2018 21: 37
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    Well, so your problem is solved, last week it was decided ...

    What are you writing about? Yours is ours. There is one cardinal problem there: Isis and the like, which Russia is helping to solve Syria.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 3 May 2018 21: 46
      +2
      About what? Air defense? The attack "Jabel 47", located forty kilometers from the base of Khmeimim .... Well, let's say you help there in your interests ....
  27. Mentat
    Mentat 3 May 2018 21: 54
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    About what? Air defense? The attack "Jabel 47", located forty kilometers from the base of Hmeimim ....

    AND? Russia has repeatedly explained the procedure for using its own air defense. Syria does not officially have S-300 (although, as you know, the issue of supply is open). And if there is somewhere, they will be applied only as a last resort with a real significant threat.
    Therefore, your messages are obviously nothing more than empty bragging. Why then do you write them?
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 3 May 2018 21: 58
      +1
      "C-300 hide behind short-range air defense. Therefore, to destroy them, with the proper construction of air defense in the Russian doctrine, is not just a problem, but a big problem."
      Here are the words ... yours. Or these complexes were not during the strokes I described.
      1. Maz
        Maz 4 May 2018 15: 27
        0
        So you fly around our complexes - you fly to visit do not be shy.
  28. Mentat
    Mentat 3 May 2018 22: 03
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    Well, let's say you help there in your interests.

    Naturally, in this matter the interests of Russia coincide with the interests of Mankind, including Of Israel. In my opinion, it’s very good that you don’t find a country capable of effectively solving such problems? At the same time, not getting into shamelessly, but preserving the face of others and respecting their right to independence.
  29. Mentat
    Mentat 3 May 2018 22: 04
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    Or these complexes were not during the strokes I described.

    As far as I know, no. Is there any other information? Syria has not yet officially delivered the S-300.
  30. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 02: 43
    0
    ... Israelis, march from our sites! But we will come there to talk with you ...
  31. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 03: 27
    0
    ... afraid of contacting Israel ...
  32. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 03: 48
    0
    ... I’ll add to my comment: He is our Chief !!! Matsu eats, the teacher gives real estate only a couple of years with him, later, in the early 70's !!! - this Mina, or like her, jerked into the special squad in the Promised ... And they took it ... The real estate at whose expense was bought for her? - State or Him !!! And in that, and suddenly, this is --- UNACCEPTABLE for the leader of the nation !!! THANKS TO HIM FOR SYRIA FOR THE STATUS-present-of my army, ARMIRIRF !!! But, crawling before the eternal Jew-traitor - THIS IS NOTHING !!!!!! Holocaust ... Is it really the Holocaust that only touches the Jews ?! My uncles perished in the abyss of that war ... GOD knows what has become of them ... Marat, this prisoner is unlikely to surrender b ... Peter, from his grandmother’s first marriage, could cheat, then resort to escape ... In both cases, uncle mine are victims of the same Holocaust ... But on the bones my grandmother didn’t demand compensation from the Bundestag, unlike ... Now the "God-chosen", it seeps that they gave their lives for the USSR, but not for themselves ... And the Kiselev detachment ... Watch a movie, and their skininess allowed them to abandon their own ... Power in Russia today is pro-Israeli, watch the Nightingale as the main thing: it praises the evil-minded, who like him had long since betrayed the Fatherland and even their kindred, learned fathers-Russophiles, shutting up even famous Russian historians who only open their mouths ... ALL THIS IS A SHAME, WITHOUTLY, NASTY !! ! I, like no one, have the right to present bills to the Israelis and Israel, but for this I must accept Judaism, otherwise the requirements will not work !!! Here, THIS TIME IS NOW ....
  33. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 04: 05
    0
    ... GDP !!! Fear, LOVE, KEEP PREVIOUSLY !!! !!! but Hanukkah in the Kremlin is already POSITIVE, it’s just !!! Hellas-the cradle of mankind, when she-Hellas-gave the world a reserve for development, Jews only they thought. how to intercept the flagship of the very “first”, realizing that only religion, and it alone, would make them the “masters” of a world so eternally ..... Hellas delighted, imitated ... Talmudia ... just thought Your friends, this project ... Well, religion, in their twists, could format this "new cradle" into "pioneers of the civilizational development of mankind" "... Here, here lies the rejection of the actions of the" God-chosen "for many, many centuries the rest of humanity-goyim, we are, after all, “goyim” ... Love them, read, fawn before them --- BUT NOT IN KREMLIN !!!!!!!!!! ..
  34. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 04: 11
    0
    ... however, MY PRESIDENT! Since I voted, nevertheless, for YOU, I have the right to speak out as I did here on the site .., and further :: KNEE BELOW YOU FOR SYRIA AND OUR ARMED FORCES !!! I think my ancestors will be with me regarding everything said here on the site ...
  35. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 04: 22
    0
    ... I will add to the above: neither the Pythagorean, Archimedes' theorems, the conquests of Alexander the Great for nascent Judaism were ANYTHING, NOTHING in comparison with the invention of the bicycle - neoreligion for ourselves and only in the name of ourselves ... And we are cashmere in the KREMLIN, IN THE BEDROOMS IVAN THE FOURTH ...
  36. tamilla
    tamilla 4 May 2018 04: 25
    0
    ... I will add to the above: neither the Pythagorean, Archimedes' theorems, the conquests of Alexander the Great for nascent Judaism were NOTHING, NOTHING in comparison with the invention of the bicycle - neoreligion for ourselves and only in the name of ourselves ... But we are a cashmere-cook in KREMLIN, IN THE CHAMBERS OF IVAN THE FOURTH ...
  37. Said
    Said 4 May 2018 05: 13
    0
    Tired of scum. Play before the Holocaust 2.0
    1. ADT
      ADT 4 May 2018 11: 39
      +1
      O rampant and the power of family madness! Two saids is power!
  38. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 4 May 2018 11: 36
    +1
    We have no relations with Jerusalem, neither good nor bad. Negotiations are conducted only with Tel Aviv.
  39. lopvlad
    lopvlad 4 May 2018 11: 49
    +1
    C-300 no problem for the Israeli Air Force


    what amazes me is the unshakable faith of the western man in the exclusivity of their weapons. They believe that all missiles reach their target, that stealth aircraft are really invisible able to overcome any layered air defense, the Iron Dome is the best air defense in the world that can protect against all and so you can list endlessly.
    And then they are faced with a reality in which a large half of the launched “smart” missiles gets lost and some have a “mind” that fails and they stupidly fall to the ground without reaching anywhere, then the F-35 is a clumsy cow with one engine and any modern radar is able to detect it, the fact that the "Iron Dome" with massive shelling from one direction by artisanal cash registers misses almost half of these missiles.

    There is advertising and PR of weapons, but there is a real war where any show-offs crumble after the first real combat clash.
  40. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 4 May 2018 11: 54
    0
    If someone threatens us, there will be a beat - and he himself knows. It will be necessary to deliver the S-300 to everyone who so far suffers Israeli military antics and sorties in their airspace, including Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon, and not just Syria and Iran. It's time to dispel these myths about the F-35 that has long been visible on our radars. Even the Americans recently admitted that it is visible even on Soviet radars, and on Russian ones - over long distances. This is a guarantee of defeat.
  41. I love Russia
    I love Russia 4 May 2018 11: 54
    0
    With 300 is unlikely to be in Syria! Because our Russian government seems to have "moved out"! What is said about silence during the attack on Syria, silence during the attacks of Jews on the same Syrians! WE RENT OUT! O-B-I-D-N-O !!! Critters !!! Vladimir Vladimirovich, we believed in YOU and still believe! Do not kill this faith in us! We suffered tiny salaries, poverty and the dominance of oligarchs! They said, de, Putin’s hand will reach them! But apparently not fate! And then the news .... Putin puts Kudrina instead of Medvedev! Survived, fuck! Like, he knows how to improve relations with the USA !!! Yes, we ALL know how to build relationships with them !!! Substitute them pop! Eh .... And we believed in you!