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US pilots refuse to fly on the most expensive fighter in the world

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In the US Air Force, it looks like an extraordinary event happened - military pilots flatly refused to fly on the latest fifth-generation fighter F-22 Raptor.

“Predators” - that’s how the name of the fighter is translated - is haunted by a mystical malfunction, which has already caused the death of one aircraft in Alaska together with the pilot in November 2010. More than a dozen cases of oxygen starvation of pilots during flights on this fighter have been recorded. The problem in the aircraft has still not been identified. As a result, the flight height of the "Predator" was artificially limited. But recently, cases of hypoxia, which can lead to a sudden loss of consciousness of the crew, have become more frequent. Against this background, pilots refuse to perform tasks on the F-22 until troubleshooting. The leadership of the US Air Force issued a statement saying that it was a "very small number of pilots" who did not want to sit again in the "Predators", although without specifying exactly how many military personnel "went into denial." Meanwhile, speaking on aviation a base in Virginia, US Air Force spokesman General Mike Hostge admitted: "There is excitement among the pilots, but this will not cause the downtime of super-expensive aircraft." “The country needs this fighter. I would like us to have 10 times more. This is our best aircraft,” said Hostge.

It is noteworthy that the cost of one production copy of the "best aircraft", according to Pentagon estimates, reaches 411,7 million US dollars. To investigate the causes of hypoxia, which the F-22 crews continue to test, they installed special filters in the aircraft that measure the level of toxic substances in the cockpit, and the pilots now use sensors that detect the level of oxygen in the blood during the flight. It is curious that, according to the USAF Air Force Times, a large team of engineers, analysts, doctors and psychologists are studying the problem. They do not exclude the version that during the flight "the plane somehow releases toxins."

Information:
The F-22 Raptor is a fifth-generation multipurpose fighter developed by Lockheed Martin, Boeing and General Dynamics to replace F-15 fighters. F-22 today is the only standing fighter of the fifth generation. Having produced 187 serial aircraft of this type, the production of the Predators was curtailed ahead of time due to the high cost of the fighter.
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  1. laurbalaur
    laurbalaur 4 May 2012 11: 31
    +96
    "the plane is somehow releasing toxins." Sorry, does he fart? wassat
    1. esaul
      esaul 4 May 2012 11: 38
      +25
      Quote: laurbalaur
      Sorry, fart or what?

      Dmitry, welcome. One can also expect such a conclusion from the Americans - it will not rust behind them. Here is an example of the adequacy of the Americans. So - for fun

      Geologists blamed much of the smog in California on cows. This was reported in a paper published in Geophysical Research Letters.
      A summary of the work is provided on the ScienceNOW website.

      In a new study, scientists estimated the amount of ammonia released into the atmosphere by cars and cattle in California.
      A significant part of the smog (especially if we consider only small - less than 2,5 micrometers - particles) is ammonium nitrate, which is formed as a result of the reaction of ammonia and nitrogen oxides in the air.
      Using a specially equipped aircraft, scientists found that all cars in California emit about 62 tons (with an accuracy of 24 tons) of ammonia per day into the atmosphere. In turn, farms, which contain a total of 298 thousand heads of cattle, emit from 33 to 176 tons of ammonia per day into the atmosphere (the scatter is due to difficulties in estimating the amount of ammonia produced by a single cow).Scientists emphasize that from a thermodynamic point of view, ammonium nitrate is better obtained from automobile emissions than from cow's, therefore it is not possible to assess the percentage of each of the sources. However, the researchers emphasize that, for example, forecasting smog should take into account the effect of cattle.
      Well, I was very pinned by the words that I highlighted in font. laughingI think, here, just the pop-up, which mentions below Victor
      1. YARY
        YARY 4 May 2012 11: 47
        +41
        wassat laughing Valery
        Well say-stink little by little!
        The era in which the development of US aircraft has received a boost, thanks to the MiG stolen from the USSR, is coming to an end! Fact! recourse
        1. esaul
          esaul 4 May 2012 11: 53
          +21
          Quote: Ardent
          The era in which the development of US aircraft has received a boost, thanks to the MiG stolen from the USSR, is coming to an end! Fact

          Andrey, fireworks, buddy! Well formulated! For a long time the thought was spinning, and you "took it off the tongue"! good
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 4 May 2012 11: 58
            +29
            As always, creating an airplane at a price of almost gold, somewhere they saved on Chinese plastic, here it is at heating speeds and starts toxins laughing Try to sit in a new Chinese car without a gas mask wassat
            1. VAF
              VAF 4 May 2012 20: 51
              +4
              Quote: Aleksey67
              As always, creating an airplane at a price of almost gold,


              Therefore, they released the LAST (as a requiem at the funeral), +!

              The ceremony for the transfer of the US Air Force aircraft with tail number 10-4195 was held on May 2 at the Lockheed Martin plant in Marietta. The inscriptions on the keel F-22 indicate that the aircraft is assigned to the 525th squadron of the 3rd air wing at the Elmendorf-Richardson air base (Alaska).

              Photo of the last F-22 Raptor fighter.
              1. Aleksey67
                Aleksey67 4 May 2012 21: 40
                +2
                Quote: veteran.air force
                Therefore, they released the LAST (as a requiem at the funeral), +!


                Well, what’s the matter, and you won’t refuse the ability to organize the show wink
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov 4 May 2012 13: 26
          +8
          but they shoot cool TV shows!

          to each his own!) although his heroes are also missing there

          you must respect your enemy as the great sensei said

          but ... there are always several or one - but

          MiG-31 (NATO codification: Foxhound - foxhound)

          The principal differences of the MiG-31BM version [6]:

          The MiG-31BM airborne radar system is capable of simultaneously detecting up to 24 air targets, 8 of which can be simultaneously fired by R-33C missiles. The ability to intercept targets flying at a speed corresponding to M = 6, improved other characteristics of the complex

          Upgraded versions of the aircraft can be equipped with X-31P, X-25MP or X-25MPU anti-radar missiles (up to six units), X-31A anti-ship missiles (up to six), X-59 and X-29T air-to-surface missiles (up to three) or X-59M (up to two units), up to six adjustable air bombs KAB-1500 or up to eight KAB-500 with television or laser guidance.

          The maximum mass of the combat load is 9000 kg.
          maximum permissible speed at high altitude - 3000 km / h (M2,82);
          maximum permissible speed at low altitude - 1500 km / h [10];
          cruising speed:
          supersonic - 2500 km / h (M2,35);
          subsonic - 950 km / h (M0,9);

          Since the release of the MiG-31, numerous aircraft modifications have also been developed:

          MiG-31B - a serial modification of the MiG-31, equipped with a system of refueling in the air; entered service in 1990.
          MiG-31BS - MiG-31, upgraded to the level of MiG-31B;
          MiG-31BM - 1998 modernization, a modern version of the MiG-31 for the Russian Air Force. It is planned until 2020 to upgrade 60 Mig-31 to Mig-31BM [7]. In 2008, the first stage of the ICG was completed, the second stage continues. [8] The upgraded aircraft will receive a new weapon control system and radar, which will detect targets at ranges of up to 320 kilometers and simultaneously track up to ten air targets. [9]
          MiG-31D - an experimental modification capable of carrying the Ishim anti-satellite missile; belay angry
          MiG-31LL - flying laboratory in Zhukovsky;
          MiG-31M - modernized in 1993, fighter-interceptor with enhanced weapons, radar, avionics;
          MiG-31F - multi-purpose front-line fighter, also designed for ground targets (project of a fundamentally new aircraft);
          MiG-31FE - export version of the MiG-31BM;
          MiG-31E - export version with a simplified avionics;
          The Mig-31DZ is a serial fighter-interceptor equipped with an air refueling system (differs from the MiG-31B by the location of the refueling rod (on the MiG-31DZ the rod is installed on the left side of the flight) and the equipment of the second cockpit).
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 4 May 2012 13: 51
            +12


            chotky they fly out of order)
            1. Neighbor
              Neighbor 4 May 2012 18: 21
              0
              The chain of these birds - forms - an impenetrable wall for enemy missiles and aircraft.
              But pilots are afraid to fly - so after all - it can crash!
              Quote: Aleksey67
              As always, creating an airplane at a price of almost gold, somewhere saved on a Chinese plastic, here it is at speeds from heating and starts toxins to start Try sitting in a new Chinese car without a gas mask

              Korotnet something somewhere - and Khan. Catapults such as ours - and they are not close. In a word - the complete ........! - and not a 5th generation fighter.
        3. escobar
          escobar 4 May 2012 14: 28
          +7
          Quote: Ardent
          The era in which the development of US aircraft has received a boost, thanks to the MiG stolen from the USSR, is coming to an end! Fact!

          And if "ours" had not sold those for pitiful pennies. documentation for vertical takeoff, then the F35 would have moved back in time and was much more expensive in the deck version.
        4. gojesi
          gojesi 4 May 2012 14: 30
          +3
          Quote: Ardent
          thanks to the MiG stolen from the USSR

          and does anyone know what's up with the traitor Belenko? Has the GRU-KGB been let down for him?
          1. танк
            танк 4 May 2012 15: 11
            +2
            A traitor lives and rejoices, an eccentric with the letter M, could board a boat with oars and go to hell with the Japanese, no, it was necessary to roll away the MIG
          2. cyberspace
            cyberspace 4 May 2012 16: 50
            +6
            In the period 2000-03, both the hijackers died, and Belenko and the second, who hijacked the MiG-29 to Turkey in the late 80s, do not remember his last name, the Veteran should know. Both were advisers during the Desert Storm and in Yugoslavia. One crashed while flying on a perfectly operational plane, the second in a car accident. The investigation in both cases was very serious, it was recognized that both accidents were very suspicious, but they did not seem to find any facts of assistance.
            1. gojesi
              gojesi 4 May 2012 18: 18
              +4
              smile awards, as they say, found "heroes".
              1. Sniper 1968
                Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 18: 22
                +3
                gojesi,
                Greetings, Alexander! Does the Sudoplatov case live? ...
                1. gojesi
                  gojesi 4 May 2012 18: 35
                  +1
                  Sniper 1968,
                  Hello Sergey! My congratulations on the assignment of the next military rank wink
                  Sudoplatov-Sudoplatov ... The famous name, the association with "general ...", is it something connected with the "L" unit in the KGB or something GRUH ... Now I don't remember.
                  1. Sniper 1968
                    Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 21: 35
                    0
                    gojesi,
                    Quote: gojesi
                    My congratulations on the assignment of the next military rank

                    Serving the Soviet Union !!! (So I was taught)gojesi,
                    Quote: gojesi
                    Sudoplatov-Sudoplatov ... The name is famous,

                    Thunderstorm of all traitors to the homeland. Most of the operations planned personally.
            2. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 4 May 2012 18: 23
              0
              Quote: siber
              both hijackers died, and Belenko

              It seems like a desa
              According to some Russian sources, in 1997, under mysterious circumstances, he died in a car accident [3]. In 2000, he gave an interview to an American correspondent at an air show in pc. Wisconsin, USA, in which, inter alia, said [4]:

              [In the USA] I met cosmonaut Igor Volk. He said: “You seem to have died!” - I replied: “Not so fast. The KGB spread rumors of my death in order to discourage others. ”

              This is from Wiki, I did not find information about death on the Internet request
        5. 755962
          755962 4 May 2012 15: 12
          +1
          Quote: Ardent
          Fact!

          Here is a fact, so a fact !!!!!!!!!!!!! ESPECIALLY WITH 3:16 MIN !!!!!!!!!!! http://irc.lv/video?id=WFhKlU3jfH4c
        6. Igorboss16
          Igorboss16 4 May 2012 15: 15
          +1
          when our fighter takes him into captivity he will no longer be:
          Quote: laurbalaur
          Sorry, fart or something

          but rather fall apart from diarrhea laughing , doesn’t it seem funny to you that a plane (type) of the 5th generation cannot rise above 7 km, then what kind of fighter is it when its pilot disconnects from hypoxia, and then they can also be shot down from piston planes laughing
      2. party3AH
        party3AH 4 May 2012 12: 48
        +4
        All the cows for soap, transport for metal and the sky will become clearer for "super airplaneoff, what nonsense, just the guys from China sold" high-quality material "for a little haulage or their" airplanes "exceeded the ceiling, so the unfortunate ones faint, and when they wake up, an involuntary cleansing of the intestines occurs, so they blame them on toxins, they don't admit that they crap ...
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 12: 03
      +25
      Here from another article

      Some precautions have already been taken - the pilots received devices to determine the level of oxygen in the blood, blood samples, monitoring pulmonary function. Currently, hundreds of specialists from the Air Force, NASA and the defense industry are working to determine the causes of this problem. But it has not yet been announced when this problem will be finally resolved.


      I foresee further steps to solve the problem, the cockpit will be made 4-seater and a resuscitation team will fly with a pilot bulet laughing
      1. Victor
        Victor 4 May 2012 12: 15
        +7
        Quote: Aleksey67
        I foresee further steps to solve the problem, the cockpit will be made 4-seater and a resuscitation team will fly with a pilot bulet

        And the anal thermometer will be included in the set of the American pilot, so that the asshole feeling is at the level.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 12: 21
      +7
      Well, if so, soon they will fly in these "best" planes in gas masks.
    4. swat2238
      swat2238 4 May 2012 12: 33
      +3
      Yeah. The latest development of US scientists: Airliner. laughing Designed to reduce pilots. wassat
    5. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      SAMEDOV SULEYMAN 4 May 2012 12: 49
      +4
      Quote: laurbalaur
      Sorry, fart or what?

      "+++++" :)
    6. Antipin
      Antipin 4 May 2012 12: 56
      +1
      And not only that, but if they break it, who will pay for the pilots, of course !!!
      Although their salary is large, they will pay for such a plane for a very long time
    7. Walther
      Walther 4 May 2012 13: 02
      +9
      They demand to give them SU-35. BECAUSE OUR PLANES ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD !!!! Even the Americans understand this.

      Go Russia! Forward!!!!

      Back USA !!! BACK !!!!
    8. elvira
      elvira 4 May 2012 13: 09
      +8
      Quote: laurbalaur

      laurbalaur UA Today, 11:31 a new
      - 36 +
      "the plane is somehow releasing toxins." Sorry, does he fart? wassat

      Nooo ... it’s not taking toxins out! wink There is something else! laughing
      1. Charon
        Charon 4 May 2012 13: 34
        +12
        He is trying to digest the pilot.
        So far, only indigestion is obtained (in an airplane). But judging by the statistics of the events, the process is gaining strength. The aircraft is robotic, with artificial intelligence. It is also slowly learning.
        1. elvira
          elvira 4 May 2012 14: 01
          +2
          Quote: Charon
          He is trying to digest the pilot.

          it seems like ... winked
          1. 755962
            755962 4 May 2012 14: 42
            +2
            Even the equipment refuses to work ...And now, attention! Watch everyone, especially from 3:16 min !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            http://irc.lv/video?id=WFhKlU3jfH4c
  2. Kars
    Kars 4 May 2012 11: 31
    +11
    Damn nothing to say. The most expensive plane in the world.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 12: 29
      +9
      The crappiest airplane in the world, more precisely
    2. VAF
      VAF 4 May 2012 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: Kars
      The most expensive airplane in the world.


      Hi Andrew! Yes, you are absolutely right, the "toy" is very expensive. and capricious!

      This is the first time that I have encountered, so that pilots would refuse to fly ???

      How are they going to fight at all ??? It is clear that without a shower. Ice cream parlors, etc. it is accepted from them. but that would be so publicly declare ???

      And this is on the most "advanced" aircraft according to amerovsky concepts !!! Full ........ !!!!

      According to the Los Angeles Times, May 2, some Air Force pilots refuse to fly F-22 fighters due to ongoing problems with the oxygen generation system, which leads to hypoxia during the flight. Such refusals can lead to reprimands or even dismissal from the Air Force.

      Let me remind you that problems of this kind have been going on for four years.
      The U.S. Air Force currently has 200 pilots with clearance for flying the F-22.

      Current and former Air Force commanders say abandoning flights is extremely rare.
      “It shockes me as a fighter pilot, as a former commander of the Air Force’s combat command,” said retired four-star general Richard E. Hawley, who flew the F-15 and commanded the air combat service at Langley Airbase (Virginia).

      The general could not recall a single incident during his 35-year career, so that the fighter pilot refused to fly.

      Hypoxia is one of the conditions that cause nausea, headache, fatigue, or loss of consciousness.
      An ongoing investigation into the causes of hypoxia in pilots flying the F-22.

      In total, F-22 recorded seven serious incidents, including two fatal ones.
      Over the years, pilots have reported dozens of incidents related to the oxygen generation system.
      For this reason, last year the entire F-22 fleet did not fly up into the sky for almost five months, only in September last year flights were allowed.

      But this here can be safely called "the sunset of the Amerovskaya Air Force":

      “We strive to ensure that pilots understand that we are doing everything possible to solve this problem,” said General Mike Hostage.

      “We are aware that a small number of pilots expressed a personal opinion about the possibility of continuing flights on the F-22, each case will be investigated through established procedures.

      There is such a thing as fear of flying, whether it is an understandable condition or a professional violation - we will understand it, ”said Air Force spokesman Major Brandon Lingle.

      He also noted that the Air Force did not have accurate information about how many pilots and from which bases refused to fly.
      1. Kars
        Kars 4 May 2012 14: 02
        +6
        Good afternoon.

        Quote: veteran.air force
        for the first time, what would the pilots refuse to fly ???

        How are they going to fight at all ???



        These are the costs of the contract army, where I read it (maybe of course a lie)
        that the US army will fall apart at 4% irretrievable losses.
        I think it’s easy to bomb Iraq or Yugoslavia with the chances of dying less than when walking around Los Angeles, but how they go into battle with the possibility of not returning to 20-30%
        1. viruskvartirus
          viruskvartirus 4 May 2012 15: 16
          0
          An interesting question ... but they fought in Vietnam ....
          1. Kars
            Kars 4 May 2012 16: 35
            +4
            And what kind of army did the US have in Vietnam? Do not remember what the hippies protested and Mahhamed Ali was put in jail.
          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 4 May 2012 19: 52
            0
            the US army switched to a contract basis only in the 69th year, and before that even Elvis Presley could not get away from the army and serve "a little" in the navy))) So they started the mess in Vietnam purely as recruits
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 4 May 2012 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: Kars
      Damn nothing to say. The most expensive plane in the world.


      Not all that glitters is gold
  3. Bat1stuta
    Bat1stuta 4 May 2012 11: 34
    +18
    Yeah. lol can anyone imagine with us like that? what

    our pilots are so severe that they can fly in an unconscious state .. if necessary laughing
  4. Vanek
    Vanek 4 May 2012 11: 38
    +17
    Interestingly, according to the Air Force Times, a large team of engineers, analysts, doctors and psychologists. They do not exclude the version that during flight "the plane is somehow releasing toxins."


    Well, what approach is needed for an airplane to convince him not to emit toxins?

    In our even get up, you can walk. Stretch the legs.
    1. Armata
      Armata 4 May 2012 11: 54
      +12
      And you think about the name itself. Same animal which only eats, drinks and in the sun warms you toxins too. What do you want from an airplane with that name.
    2. kostiknet
      kostiknet 4 May 2012 12: 14
      +8
      Quote: Vanek
      Well, what approach is needed for an airplane to convince him not to emit toxins?

      American "psychologists" can do everything (and what is not up to ... wassat ), well, they will not persuade the plane not to shit, so they will wash the dough on it !!! They shove "psychos" where necessary and not necessary (it is strange that the lawyers were not involved in this action, they are the "sacred animals" of the Yakindos, they would have ruled out at once, what stinks, why, and most importantly who and how much owes lol )
    3. 443190
      443190 4 May 2012 12: 41
      -3
      Do not confuse ... these are different types of aircraft. One is a bomber ... The other is a fighter.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 4 May 2012 12: 50
        +1
        Quote: 443190
        Do not confuse ... these are different types of aircraft. One is a bomber ... The other is a fighter.


        What's the difference? This is not the essence of this problem. Which of them is who. They are both not only flying planes.
    4. party3AH
      party3AH 4 May 2012 12: 52
      +4
      there is such a Skunk animal, in case of danger it gives off smelling glands, maybe their plane emits something similar if at the helm an inexperienced type?
      1. Armata
        Armata 4 May 2012 12: 57
        +5
        Quote: party3AH
        there is such a Skunk animal, in case of danger it gives off smelling glands, maybe their plane emits something similar if at the helm an inexperienced type?

        Or when a bird flies nearby, or when it rains, this is also a danger to him. And what will happen if Sukhoi flies nearby? Is it a defense reaction? wassat
        1. Internet fighter
          Internet fighter 4 May 2012 14: 40
          +3
          Guys, take pity on my nerves! I have hysterical rzhach from your dialogue! wassat
          It is impossible to seriously diagnose the protective functions of this unit.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 4 May 2012 15: 55
            +1
            You did not see what was going on in our office after reading to become as such and this

            Quote: laurbalaur
            Sorry, fart or what?
          2. Raven1972
            Raven1972 4 August 2012 19: 59
            0
            I'm already a patrol ... laughing
  5. Kibl
    Kibl 4 May 2012 11: 54
    +14
    THEN THEIR AIRCRAFT DOESN'T FARE, THEN THE COWS ARE WRONGLY FUNNING, THEN SOMETHING SHIT IS NOT ENOUGH, IT'S LIKE VYSOTSKY "THEN THEIR DOGS BREAK, THEN THEIR RUINS SPEAK NOW!" wassat
  6. Pacifist
    Pacifist 4 May 2012 11: 55
    +16
    But seriously ... some kind of mysticism. The problem has been investigated for a year, the car swelled money, and at the exit zilch. Of course, there are technical problems of this kind, but given the investments and the staff involved, they are usually solved quite efficiently, but here's some crap. Of course, I’m also ready to mock them about the fact that they trite the money on this van der wafer, but on the other hand, the technical riddle does not give rest what
    We have similar systems and they work stably in all modes. What pen.dosy they screwed up so that their nichrome did not work, it is not clear.
    1. favn
      favn 4 May 2012 12: 14
      +9
      Where only Bulk looks !!! In where the cut rolls !!!!
      1. танк
        танк 4 May 2012 12: 33
        +5
        He has not yet paid the old bills, now he only works on a prepaid basis
    2. party3AH
      party3AH 4 May 2012 12: 59
      +3
      It's just that from the old Soviet engineers and designers (who "moved" at one time) hardly anyone remained, and graduates of Cambridge and Harvard grew up on films about Transformers and on old drawings, the current technology is not subject to them.
      1. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 4 May 2012 22: 43
        +1
        I don’t know how in other branches, but the problems of high-altitude flights and hypoxia are solved competently. The whole team of scientists in this area did not go anywhere, sits in their places and performs assigned tasks))))
  7. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 4 May 2012 11: 55
    +11
    At this time, it has been established that, among other things, an increased content of nitrogen and other impurities in the supplied air mixture leads to poor health of the pilots of the F-22 "Raptor" aircraft, the failures in the supply of which are unstable and cannot be predicted.
    The life support system of the pilot F-22 is a whole complex of various interconnected subsystems. It includes OBOGS, a system for regulating the supply of respiratory mixture and monitoring the pilot’s breathing (BRAG), a system for protection against biological and chemical damage and condensation of water vapor (CB / CWI), an anti-overload suit with a pumping system, overload compensation and temperature control, as well as a catapult pilot seat.
    Earlier, during the investigation, Honeywell representatives said that the cases of suffocation of F-22 pilots are associated not only with the operation of OBOGS, but also with other life support systems on the fighter. For example, a breathing mask that does not fit well to the face. Another reason was called the asynchronous operation of the anti-overload suit of the pilot and the breathing system. The upper part of the pilot’s suit is also connected to OBOGS and when changing the flight altitude and pressure inside the cockpit provides compression of the chest so that the pilot can breathe normally with rapidly changing atmospheric pressure. Such a solution helps prevent chest expansion with a strong decrease in atmospheric pressure, which can cause circulatory disorders. According to one version, due to a malfunction in the “boost” control system, the suit could squeeze the pilot’s chest too much, blocking breathing. According to another version, hypoxia attacks could begin due to improper collaboration between OBOGS and the respiratory mixture supply system in the pilot's mask.
    1. Pacifist
      Pacifist 4 May 2012 12: 25
      +2
      +1 for detailed information good
      But these are really only hypotheses. There is no exact conclusion .... here we are guessing
  8. David
    David 4 May 2012 11: 57
    +6
    "Toxin-releasing aircraft" is an additional weapon of the 5th generation aircraft laughing
  9. Manager
    Manager 4 May 2012 11: 58
    +8
    Ah, that's why they sell them to the Japanese! They have Kamikaze !!)))! I understood!
  10. neri73-r
    neri73-r 4 May 2012 12: 00
    +5
    This is good news for us! I hope the same fate awaits their second 5th generation aircraft!
  11. Zlu
    Zlu 4 May 2012 12: 02
    +5
    Here are their composite materials collected using Amer technology. Less need to hang out.
  12. oper66
    oper66 4 May 2012 12: 18
    +6
    ... “The country needs this fighter. I would like to have 10 times more of them. This is our best plane,” said Hostge !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yes, and I support him sincerely more precisely of such aircraft so that they fall more often and pilots are afraid of them !!!!!! there is only one wish and it is secret - let them be one-time commercials at ..on .. eleven more drinks
  13. танк
    танк 4 May 2012 12: 23
    +5
    For that kind of money, he himself should take and treat the wounded from the battlefield himself. As we see not happiness in money, not even in their quantity. they won’t be able to.
  14. zzzel
    zzzel 4 May 2012 12: 29
    +5
    can they have in our factories our former warrant officers? wassat
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 12: 32
      +5
      Quote: zzzel
      we can at their factories our former warrant officers work


      Where did you see the working ensign? wassat In the ensign and went in order not to work winked
      1. Armata
        Armata 4 May 2012 12: 49
        +2
        Quote: zzzel
        can they have in our factories our former warrant officers?

        Rather, those whom 209 used to chase for parasitism.
  15. puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 4 May 2012 12: 35
    +4
    The most expensive, this does not mean the best! The desire to cram into the plane all the latest technology is not necessarily the best solution. They would stick balloons with an air mixture into it and fly, chopping into a special window! ))) But we better if they continue to produce aircraft worth $ 411,7 million of the same quality. laughing
  16. 443190
    443190 4 May 2012 12: 43
    -14
    Really crazy article !!! What is she for? To boost the morale of readers? And if I tell you that our pilots do not particularly like to fly sometimes because of the decay of airplanes ... I think you will not believe this ...
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 12: 46
      +7
      Quote: 443190
      And if I tell you that our pilots do not particularly like to fly sometimes because of the decay of airplanes ... I think you will not believe this ...


      You can love or dislike flying for many reasons. Do you have data on the refusals of Russian pilots to take off on any specific types of aircraft? Or just say it in the mud?
      1. 443190
        443190 5 May 2012 22: 41
        -2
        Yes, believe me!
    2. Eraser
      Eraser 4 May 2012 12: 54
      -5
      Perhaps you are right, especially if you look at the joy of many about the fall of F-15 in the Middle East. As the saying goes, "Happiness when a neighbor's cow died" smile .Although the solution to the problem there seems to be, in addition to installing filters and so on, in order not to start the engines in the hangar.
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 4 May 2012 12: 58
        +2
        Quote: Eraser
        especially if you look at the joy of many over the fall of the f-15 in the Middle East


        To begin with, there is an accident, that is, the pilots survived. We conclude that this F-15 there (in the Middle East) did not enjoy landscapes and architecture, but mastered a promising theater.
        1. Eraser
          Eraser 4 May 2012 14: 57
          0
          You are right in many respects for my part, I am also on my own. Moreover, in my ranking of f-22 and f-15 fighters they occupy honorable 3 and 4 places. good
  17. Alexei
    Alexei 4 May 2012 12: 53
    +4
    Hmm ... And the predator shits. It should be renamed "skunk", so it will be more honest.
  18. Cheburatino
    Cheburatino 4 May 2012 12: 56
    +3
    $ 411 million ... scary to imagine the cost of a sixth generation airplane ...
    He will probably compete at a price with aircraft carriers.
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 4 May 2012 13: 00
      +2
      Quote: Cheburatino
      He will probably compete at a price with aircraft carriers.

      And in quality - with skunks.
  19. Senzey
    Senzey 4 May 2012 12: 59
    +1
    They will find a way to combat hypoxia and will continue to produce these aircraft.
    Pilots additional filters, dissenting will be fired.
    By the way, I also didn’t hear that our pilots would ever refuse to depart due to the decay of airplanes ...
  20. Nester
    Nester 4 May 2012 13: 04
    +1
    Yes, it's just the engineers who are called to eliminate the problem, I want to cut the dough. It seems that they are twisting something, they are doing it, time is running out. They are paid time. When patience bursts among the bosses, the engineers will simply remove the clothespin from the hose and that's it !!! Award to them and work at somewhere in NASA. Well, that’s it, the kids are full, the wives are happy, the Cadillac is a blunder in the garage! )))
  21. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    SAMEDOV SULEYMAN 4 May 2012 13: 06
    0
    Considering how many countries have invested in the creation of this fighter, the problems with the Americans are still ahead!
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 13: 10
      +2
      Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      Considering how many countries have invested in the creation of this fighter, the problems with the Americans are still ahead!


      They will grit their teeth, but buy this wunderwaffle. They simply have no other choice, no one will "present" to throw in the United States in modern conditions. They will immediately announce that in a country with democracy there is no harmony, with all "flowing" wink
      1. танк
        танк 4 May 2012 16: 21
        0
        plus definitely smile
    2. Eugene
      Eugene 7 May 2012 19: 16
      0
      Suleiman, did you happen to be confused with the F-35? The 22nd purely American development, and the 35th was an international project.
  22. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 4 May 2012 13: 23
    +1
    From the article in shock. Comments smiled.
  23. USNik
    USNik 4 May 2012 13: 23
    +4
    We will establish the export of scuba gear Ukraine-2 to America !!!
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 4 May 2012 19: 04
      0
      USNik,
      Quote: USNik
      We will establish the export of scuba gear Ukraine-2 to America !!!

      In this case, American pilots will refuse to fly in the winter.
  24. vorobey
    vorobey 4 May 2012 13: 23
    +3
    ] "The country needs this fighter. I would like us to have 10 times more of them. This is our best aircraft," said Hostge. [/ Quote]

    Oh well,
    Stink pigeons, stink
  25. toguns
    toguns 4 May 2012 13: 26
    +3
    the trouble with this raptor is not only that it is still raw to the point of impossibility so also with laughing gas laughing
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 13: 38
      +6
      Quote: toguns
      the trouble with this raptor is not only that it is still raw to the point of impossibility so also with laughing gas


      The Chinese can already produce an air freshener in Raptor car salons with an advertising slogan, "Feel like a pilot of a 5th generation fighter." laughing
      Anyone who buys 5 gas mask fresheners as a gift winked
    2. OSTAP BENDER
      OSTAP BENDER 4 May 2012 13: 45
      +3
      They all have a stranglehold, democracy, dollars, their filthy little souls, and even planes with a stink! Well it is necessary to get to this?
  26. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 4 May 2012 13: 59
    0
    United States Armed Force Force Casement Alvez Voz Extimli Hi-Tech And Flew ...
  27. duchy
    duchy 4 May 2012 13: 59
    +2
    How can you not believe the proverb that "It's good that cows don't fly." it turns out that they fly, it's good that they are guessing inside themselves, which the designers did not calculate.
    rogom-istrebitele-v-mire.html #
  28. Pimply
    Pimply 4 May 2012 14: 06
    -8
    Do not read Soviet newspapers at breakfast (c)

    They solved the problem long ago.
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 14: 08
      +2
      Quote: Pimply
      They solved the problem long ago.


      The fact that flights to the F-22 banned? Announce a solution to the problem
    2. 443190
      443190 5 May 2012 22: 43
      -3
      Alas .... just give a reason to these fun men .... They will wet their pants with joy .... No objectivity .... Some children's emotions.
  29. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 4 May 2012 14: 21
    +2
    I’m interested in something else, but if their pilots also refuse from sorties if the war fails, if something doesn’t suit them?
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      I’m interested in something else, but if their pilots also refuse from sorties if the war fails, if something doesn’t suit them?


      As far as I remember, the Americans and the British during WWII always in case of danger dropped ammunition and flew to the airfield
      1. 443190
        443190 5 May 2012 22: 45
        -3
        Maybe he participated in this? Where does the knowledge come from? From an Internet?
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2012 14: 29
      +4
      This is war for us, this is war. and for them, the usual thing, like a carnival in Brazil. The more feathers in the ass, the more elegant. so they may well refuse - to actively begin to suffer from diarrhea.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 May 2012 14: 56
        +2
        and if only three feathers ?!
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 May 2012 15: 00
          +1
          Well then, the problem.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 4 May 2012 19: 29
            +1
            so can our flyers also give out condoms, just in case
      2. esaul
        esaul 4 May 2012 15: 42
        +2
        Quote: vorobey
        The more feathers in the ass, the more elegant

        "... Peacocks, you say! ..." laughing
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 May 2012 19: 29
          +1
          roosters, so it will be more accurate
  30. urzul
    urzul 4 May 2012 14: 41
    +5
    We are pleased to be waiting for the first production F-35, on problems it is several times faster than the Raptor.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2012 14: 56
      +2
      except that it also stinks and frankly grays?
  31. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 4 May 2012 15: 20
    +3
    And why would the fortuneteller guess so perfect that he decided that he didn’t need a pilot yes :)))
  32. Cheburatino
    Cheburatino 4 May 2012 15: 34
    +3
    Well, Americans said that this plane is invisible)) invisible, but sniffing)) the pilots of Sushki will feel these raptors long before they appear on the radar))
  33. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 4 May 2012 16: 43
    0
    Nothing is a cool excuse to promote a taxpayer ...
  34. Bort radist
    Bort radist 4 May 2012 18: 56
    +1
    Pilots fly in Raptor, hence the "hypoxia", the higher the worse the mixture in the cockpit. Psychologists are trying to break the vicious circle. lol
  35. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 4 May 2012 19: 35
    +2
    Formaldehydes from stealth materials cause poisoning and suffocation. One is to die in battle and the other is simply poisoned in flight. We can sarcastically wish frequent flights to American pilots on the F-22. Nothing personal just business.
  36. Alekseyka
    Alekseyka 4 May 2012 19: 43
    +1
    Maybe all the problems are in Amer pilots, who do not tolerate overloads. If so, then there is no reason for them to improve the planes. Perhaps that is why they are so interested in drones. what
  37. suharev-52
    suharev-52 4 May 2012 22: 48
    +1
    The trouble of my enemy is a great joy for me. Yes, men, they survived. Half a watermelon is green and you can’t fly. And our 35 seems to be a hundred, or am I mistaken? One thing depresses and disturbs me. Our Moscow Region and the henchmen in the Kremlin. We have excellent equipment, but with the continuation of the reform of the army in Serdyukovsky, it may turn out that there will be no one to fly and shoot from the most complicated weapons.
    Russia, Russia. Keep yourself safe. Keep it.
    Look again at your woods and valleys
    Alien crowd they raced
    Other times "Tatars" and "Mongols"
    N. Rubtsov

    Sincerely.
  38. Averias
    Averias 5 May 2012 13: 08
    +1
    Guys, come on, everything is just like a brick. It's just that the pilots are so terrified about the cost of this "miracle" of the American aircraft industry, not fucking muhra half a billion baksiks under the ass. So they are frightened of ditching such a thing, but from the fact that it is a shame to admit such a thing, how can it be - a valiant and tough American pilot, a sower of "democracy and peace in the world", a thunderstorm of enemies and on you - dreads. So they excuse themselves.