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The tubes are leaking. Most German aircraft are unsuitable for combat operations.

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Most of the Eurofighter 128 fighters, which are in service with the German Air Force, are currently unsuitable for military operations, reports TASS the message of the weekly Spiegel.


German Defense Minister Ursula von der Lyayen in the cockpit of a fighter Eurofighter

According to military sources, many fighters do not allow to fly due to technical problems with the containers located on the wings: “Inside these containers, special sensors are installed, to which the cooling system is connected. The tubes through which the fluid flows can leak, and because of this, in turn, the operation of the sensors can be completely disrupted. ”

At the same time, the uninterrupted operation of the sensors is necessary for participation in military maneuvers - “among other things, they notify the pilots if other planes approach,” the interlocutors explained.

"The German Air Force will not be able to perform tasks within NATO in the event of a potential conflict with such technical problems," the author concludes.

According to sources, only “about ten fighters have positive technical conclusions”, allowing them to take off for operations.

In addition, the publication points to the lack of missiles for air combat: "now they will be enough only to equip four fighters."

Recall that in the 2018 year of the German Defense Ministry and the Bundestag deputies have repeatedly expressed concern about the lack of weapons and uniforms in the German army. So, in February, the press leaked details of the report of the defense department, which reported that the military lacked body armor, winter uniforms and tents to participate in NATO missions.
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  1. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 3 May 2018 09: 51
    +9
    Damn, I did not understand why they called a gynecologist to a German airplane ??? laughing Maybe the Germans built some new block into it, but the men don’t know!
    1. ghby
      ghby 3 May 2018 09: 55
      +11
      Quote: Major Yurik
      Damn, I did not understand why they called a gynecologist to a German airplane ???

      Well, leaking tubes are in hard-to-reach places, how else to repair without opening, but she still has the qualifications. wassat laughing
      ps inspired by a joke about a gynecologist who did repairs in an apartment through a keyhole.
      1. Proxima
        Proxima 3 May 2018 10: 05
        +13
        Of 128 fighters, 10 can fly, and 4 can conduct air combat belay
        What does the woman stand at the head of the military department fellow
        Keep it up, the descendants are ready! good
        1. maxim947
          maxim947 3 May 2018 10: 28
          +4
          According to the military sources of the publication ..

          Which ones? )) Article - another fantasy do not understand anyone. Everything about them is fine with equipment, and if we take into account the combined forces of Europe, then more than that. Plus, German pedantry has not gone anywhere, so you should not count on sloppiness))
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 3 May 2018 10: 57
            +4
            Quote: maxim947
            Article - another fantasy do not understand who. Everything about them is fine with equipment, and if we take into account the combined forces of Europe, then more than that.

            If they had everything normal with the equipment, then the German Ministry of Defense would not publish reports on the increase in the combat readiness of equipment with graphs of general operational readiness in the style of "morgue average hospital temperature", on which all available equipment is summed up in one pile, and the quadric is equated to a tank. smile
            Because for the gross figures iron and steel production general combat readiness can perfectly hide some minor particulars, such as:
            Of the 244 Leopard-2 main battle tanks that are in service with Germany, the majority are unsuitable for operation, media reported citing documents from the German Ministry of Defense.
            Only 95 tanks are on alert. 89 recognized as “conditionally defective” and not repairable due to lack of spare parts. Another 53 tanks undergo modernization, and seven - certification

            Or the fact that out of 39 attack helicopters there are 12 to 19 combat-ready ones. smile
            The recipe is simple - put everything in one heap, and then the repair of any motorcycle will steadily increase the number of overall combat readiness.
            1. maxim947
              maxim947 3 May 2018 11: 36
              0
              with reference to documents of the German Ministry of Defense.

              Which documents? Where are they? Has anyone seen them?))))
              And what does it mean - conditionally out of order? maybe there is no spare bulb in the spare parts, where is the evaluation method by which this can be determined?)))
              I mean, all this is very blurry, and what for they do not need so many weapons, with whom should they fight? they seem to have a head on their shoulders and they will not be hysterical from possible aggression from Russia)))
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 3 May 2018 16: 26
                0
                Quote: maxim947
                I mean, all this is very blurry, and what for they do not need so many weapons, with whom should they fight? they seem to have a head on their shoulders and they will not be hysterical from possible aggression from Russia)))

                Heh heh heh ... just the Federal Defense Ministry is constantly demanding an increase in armaments - nodding to Russia.
                At a press conference in Berlin on April 10, 2015, the spokesman for the German Ministry of Defense, Jens Flosdorff, announced the decision of the Ministry of Defense to expand the Bundeswehr tank fleet from 225 2 Leopard 328 tanks to 2017 units by 103. The additional 2 Leopard 22 tanks required for this, previously withdrawn from the German army and currently being stored by industry, will be bought back by the German Ministry of Defense and undergo repairs, for which XNUMX million euros should be allocated.
                This decision is motivated by the aggravation of the situation in Europe in 2014, and above all, the actions of Russia against Ukraine.
                © bmpd
                However. nothing surprising - the Frau gynecologist in the early years brought the Bundeswehr to the pen. As of 2016:
                Of the 216 Tornado and Eurofighter Typhoon warplanes, only 69 are in flying condition. Of the five Airbus Military A400M military transport aircraft received, only one is able to take off the ground. According to the report, 71 aircraft are in a state of repair or modernization and they can become combat ready in a fairly short time. The reasons for this decline in airworthiness are caused by the obsolescence of platforms, lack of spare parts and “childhood illnesses”.
                The Bundeswehr has 43 heavy transport helicopters Sikorsky CH-53, of which 18 fly. Concerning 42 Tiger combat helicopters, it is reported that there are 27, 12 of them in flight condition. With the NH90 helicopter, the situation is as follows - there are a total of 48 units, of which 29 are in combat, but only nine are flying. The situation is difficult with naval aviation, which is armed with 21 Westland Sea Lynx Mk 88A and 21 Westland Sea King Mk 41 helicopters, of which only five and four are serviceable.
                It seems that the situation is somewhat more optimistic with the ground forces. Although not without dark spots, as is the case with the Puma infantry fighting vehicle, of which only 23 out of 89 are serviceable. With regard to the self-propelled 155-mm howitzer PzH 2000, the health level is declared at 67%. It should be noted that in the Bundeswehr there are 123 PzH 2000 howitzers, of which 61 are in the troops, and only 41 are in the combat units. 67% are not obtained in any way, based on the numbers in total. Based on this principle of counting, everything is fine with Leopard 2 tanks, since there are 244 tanks in total, of which 167 are in the military, and 132 are in combat units, that is, serviceability reaches 79%.
                ... only three of the six Project 212A submarines can immediately go to sea
                © bmpd
                And with whom Germany will fight, it is not for the Germans to decide. A pointer will come from Brussels or Washington - and good burghers will go where necessary, singing Wenn die Soldaten.
                1. Dedall
                  Dedall 3 May 2018 21: 49
                  +2
                  I was about 10 years ago at the airport in Mozdok and heard that they have only 4 aircraft can rise. I think that this Syria did not get better. All more or less working equipment is sent there.
              2. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 3 May 2018 16: 34
                0
                Quote: maxim947
                and what for they do not need so many weapons

                So many - how much is this? The Bundestag came out of hibernation only when the number of tanks in the Bundeswehr fell below that required for one panzerdivisia. And before that, Frau the gynecologist was "dear Versailles", actively ridding the Bundeswehr of the" excessive "weapons in her opinion.
            2. onega67
              onega67 3 May 2018 14: 11
              0
              Nobody has canceled Desu!
        2. Yrec
          Yrec 3 May 2018 10: 40
          0
          Gee-gee, it's just a tricky-plan-Merkel. It is to prevent the Germans from fighting for American interests. Are the tubes leaking? The path of the pipe, and even the pants - if only there was no war. The old woman is still petrifying for now.
          1. LMN
            LMN 3 May 2018 11: 54
            +3
            Quote: Yrec
            Gee-gee, it's just a tricky-plan-Merkel. It is to prevent the Germans from fighting for American interests. Are the tubes leaking? The path of the pipe, and even the pants - if only there was no war. The old woman is still petrifying for now.

            Kstatit also thought that Germany was beginning to specifically NATO (with its technical unsuitability).
            Build a ton of money in there? To modernize the army with American weapons, in particular f-35?
            But do they need these NATO and the USA? Taking into account Nord Stream-2, Germany will not only strengthen politically, but also financially. And now it's time to think about modernizing the army. And at this stage, Russia will be the main partner for them.

            Therefore, it feels like they are dragging on time. They refuse to invest in NATO. They refuse to buy new weapons from the United States.
            Maybe they’ll kick them out of NATO?) laughing

            But seriously, why not Russia? Once a bet has been placed on us, why don't they tolerate it?
        3. volodya
          volodya 3 May 2018 11: 37
          0
          Quote: Proxima
          Of 128 fighters, 10 can fly, and 4 can conduct air combat belay
          What does the woman stand at the head of the military department fellow
          Keep it up, the descendants are ready! good

      2. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 3 May 2018 14: 53
        0
        Quote: ghby
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Damn, I did not understand why they called a gynecologist to a German airplane ???

        Well, leaking tubes are in hard-to-reach places, how else to repair without opening, but she still has the qualifications. wassat laughing
        ps inspired by a joke about a gynecologist who did repairs in an apartment through a keyhole.

        Not really yours. An anecdote about how a car’s engine went through an exhaust pipe.
        1. SEER
          SEER 3 May 2018 23: 56
          +1
          Quote: Hagalaz
          Quote: ghby
          Quote: Major Yurik
          Damn, I did not understand why they called a gynecologist to a German airplane ???

          Well, leaking tubes are in hard-to-reach places, how else to repair without opening, but she still has the qualifications. wassat laughing
          ps inspired by a joke about a gynecologist who did repairs in an apartment through a keyhole.

          Not really yours. An anecdote about how a car’s engine went through an exhaust pipe.

          Well, why not right away. there really is a joke about a former gynecologist in a team of builders and wallpapering through a keyhole.
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 3 May 2018 09: 56
      +3
      I read the article and remembered “Kin-dza-dza” - there Uef drank all the brake fluid in the pepelats. So maybe he is now in Germany? lol
      1. Wei
        Wei 3 May 2018 09: 59
        +1
        Well, I don’t know, the Germans can quickly deploy their war machine if they are pushed against the Russians again .. But they know how to fight, but they don’t want to. I hope this does not happen!
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 3 May 2018 10: 03
          +7
          What makes you think that the current Germans know how to fight? There is no generation of Germans, just like our grandfathers are gone! There are now homosexuals no less than in the west .. And the Russian man didn’t want to fight like this for centuries, until he got a kick but if I got up for war .. then mom didn’t grieve everyone was ... laughing
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 3 May 2018 10: 20
            +3
            "but if I got up for war .. then my mother did not grieve everyone" ////

            It happened ... in different ways. If he got up to war with outdated weapons and tactics, then “Mama Do not Cry” happened to him himself. And if the equipment was in order, the ammunition / shells - plenty, and the exercises did not skimp on firing - then yes. As you said. good
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 20
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "but if I got up for war .. then my mother did not grieve everyone" ////

              It happened ... in different ways. If he got up to war with outdated weapons and tactics, then “Mama Do not Cry” happened to him himself. And if the equipment was in order, the ammunition / shells - plenty, and the exercises did not skimp on firing - then yes. As you said. good

              Is this where we fought with obsolete weapons? Under Peter 1? Suvorov? Nakhimov? Kutuzov? Zhukov? Or do you mean the Battle of Kulikovo?
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 3 May 2018 15: 04
                +1
                Quote: sabakina
                Is this where we fought with obsolete weapons?
                Almost always and everywhere in the arms caught up - that's right. Very rarely, the lag was negligible.
              2. your1970
                your1970 4 May 2018 10: 37
                +1
                Quote: sabakina
                Is this where we fought with obsolete weapons? Under Peter 1? Suvorov? Nakhimov? Kutuzov? Zhukov? Or do you mean the Battle of Kulikovo?
                will support voyaka uh (Alexey)- almost all the wars of the second half of the 19th - the entire 20th and already part of the 21st century - Russia waged and is waging with outdated weapons. Alas - but this is a fact, as well as the fact that we are usually not ready for war
        2. DarkMatter
          DarkMatter 3 May 2018 10: 26
          +1
          It seems that they just "mow", merge, like nothing works for us. At the same time, you can shake money from burghers.
      2. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 3 May 2018 10: 00
        +4
        In the thirties, too, everyone was neighing together from the Reichswehr — as German tank crews practiced tactics on cardboard tanks. So, practically, until the 39th year, they were laughing ... And then they cried.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 3 May 2018 11: 16
          0
          But in the end, we, in the person of our grandfathers, were laughing at the Reichstag, and we laughed last, albeit with great blood ..therefore, we don’t need to go to us with a sword .. while we sleep on the stove, and we don’t have to look askance!
      3. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 3 May 2018 11: 03
        +3
        In this context, for the Germans, I want to say:
        "Hitler is not on them!" .... laughing lol
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 3 May 2018 11: 09
          +1
          Laughter, laughter, but this is not the first report of problems in the Bundeswehr. Kostya, hi! hi
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 3 May 2018 11: 16
          0
          This is the right context, but ... don't!
      4. sabakina
        sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 15
        +1
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I read the article and remembered “Kin-dza-dza” - there Uef drank all the brake fluid in the pepelats. So maybe he is now in Germany? lol

        Pasha, pryuvet! Goering right now probably scratches his turnip with the thought: "How could they get to such a life?" wink
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 3 May 2018 11: 20
          +2
          Salute, Slavik! hi It may well be banal begging for money. But in fact, problems can take place. request
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 36
            +2
            Pasha, their tubes are not right. I had to saw off the brake pipes to replace, say, a brake cylinder. Hold tight!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 3 May 2018 11: 43
              0
              So there are not brake, but cooling systems. They seem to have lower pressure, possibly a manufacturing defect. request
    3. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz 3 May 2018 09: 59
      +2
      It is very strange of course to hear this about the Germans. Is there really such a mess, missiles for 4 aircraft!)) Although this is by no means the first time they talk about their army.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 3 May 2018 10: 36
        +2
        Quote: bazzbazz
        It is very strange of course to hear this about the Germans. Really such a mess, missiles for 4 aircraft!

        About missiles for four planes, it may be overkill, but the fact that the mess is yes. They have full confidence that they are under the protection of the hegemon, why spend money on their army? That's when touched - panicked. Moreover, this is not only the Germans. A good example is our liberals who love to scream about cutting defense spending in favor of medicine and education. This is their favorite slogan.
    4. den3080
      den3080 3 May 2018 10: 02
      0
      and thank god nothing works.
      Deputy doctor proctologist still needs to be appointed and normal.
      1. A good one
        A good one 3 May 2018 10: 13
        +9
        The main thing is that they do not hit their heads that we still decided to attack them tonight.
        1. Ushly_bashkort
          Ushly_bashkort 3 May 2018 10: 39
          +2
          There is an opinion that it is they who are otmazyvatsya in advance from some kind of joint operation in Syria, they say you fight there of course, but our planes do not fly.
    5. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 May 2018 11: 00
      +2
      it is such a TREND. gender equality is called (everyone has equal rights). Well, pipes (tubes) have flowed - it happens. once a month all tubes “flow”
    6. Hire
      Hire 3 May 2018 11: 18
      +4
      Quote: Major Yurik
      Damn, I did not understand why they called a gynecologist to a German airplane ??? laughing Maybe the Germans built some new block into it, but the men don’t know!

      Probably a breast pump. Here, come to experience. smile
  2. agent
    agent 3 May 2018 09: 58
    0
    Great news!!!
  3. IL-18
    IL-18 3 May 2018 10: 04
    +1
    Well, if they wish, they will fix their eurofighter, make new ones, and .... buy overseas. When the situation worsens, no matter who aggravates, the desire will arise automatically. I do not understand such attention to this state of affairs in you from our media. Everyone has a problem. Although, if we start to fight in a week, then yes, great, they hit.
  4. Kerensky
    Kerensky 3 May 2018 10: 12
    0
    But aren't they driving a misinformation? Something has hurt them all badly lately. And the info goes through reputable publications.
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 May 2018 10: 15
    +3
    These are the problems of a non-belligerent peace-loving country.
    But I would not flatter myself. In case of real danger
    such problems will be raked very quickly. Aircraft
    will lead to combat readiness, missiles will receive from the United States instantly.
    Eurofighter, by the way, is no less difficult to maintain than the F-35.
    His many upgrades in an attempt to "pull" to the 5th generation
    led to difficulties and maintenance.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 3 May 2018 11: 18
      0
      Alexei is true, everyone saw examples of what a backward country with feet of clay can turn into when moving to military rails ... hi
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 25
      0
      Lyokha !!! You can not even mention the F-35 in one post? And they will not quickly rake up problems, he himself said that this is not a double!
    3. novel66
      novel66 3 May 2018 11: 30
      +1
      it’s somehow strange to read about the Germans
      non-belligerent peace-loving country
      , although with your mind you understand that somewhere this is so hi
  6. Oleg Kozlov
    Oleg Kozlov 3 May 2018 10: 20
    0
    Something I see, in the decaying West, almost nothing is suitable. If you believe our media. Everything is bad there, they don’t know how to fight, they don’t know how to love, they don’t know how to live ... Airplanes are bad, tanks are bad, boats are bad ... They rot in a word ... At the same time they hate Russians fiercely. And they love Russian money very much. By the way, in our "tops", oligarchic and not only, they also love money and do not like people. I wonder why? Are they sick?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 May 2018 10: 38
      +3
      The West lives relaxedly for its pleasure.
      Entertainment - cafes, football, fairs, shopping, internet, family, where to spend a vacation.
      A little art, a little broadening the horizons of study.
      He especially does not hate anyone, except for ordinary household phobias.
      It refers to defense as a secondary, uninteresting thing.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 28
        0
        Soon this relaxation will end. Pork sausages are already banned.
      2. novel66
        novel66 3 May 2018 11: 31
        +1
        Well. except for the Poles, apparently!
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 May 2018 12: 21
          0
          You have correctly noticed this.
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 3 May 2018 12: 00
        0
        Europe always beneath all the invaders did not care for them, even under whom, and now why in the occupation of the Nazis why do they need an army.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 May 2018 12: 20
          0
          Why did you get this? belay
          Europe fought off the Arabs, fought off the Mongols, fought off the Turks.
          They had plenty of internal wars - yes sad .
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 3 May 2018 15: 08
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Europe fought off the Arabs, fought off the Mongols, fought off the Turks.
            Which place? Russia beat off?
            Arabs where they wanted - settled, like the Turks, who echoed the Mongols.
  7. evil partisan
    evil partisan 3 May 2018 10: 23
    +5
    If Goering could see what the current Luftwaffe is, then he would have turned in his grave (and more than once ...) if he could ... sad
    1. Wei
      Wei 3 May 2018 11: 44
      0
      Quote: wicked partisan
      If Goering could see what the current Luftwaffe is, then he would have turned in his grave (and more than once ...) if he could ... sad

      Israel will restore everything if it benefits them ..
  8. svp67
    svp67 3 May 2018 10: 28
    +1
    Most German aircraft unsuitable for military operations
    Nothing Germany’s GDP is growing, the budget of the Moscow Region will now be brought up to 2% of GDP and there will be enough money not only for changing rooms, for newborns ... and the tubes will be pulled up.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 30
      +1
      Sergey, if the pipes flow specifically, then drastic measures are needed. I speak like a driver.
      1. svp67
        svp67 3 May 2018 16: 06
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        drastic measures needed

        If drastic measures are needed, then the matter is clearly not in the handsets ...
  9. Abram
    Abram 3 May 2018 10: 38
    0
    explanation "about sensors and tubes" for children of preschool age and other people, the same level of mental development winked
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 3 May 2018 11: 04
      +2
      So the German edition gives explanations
      the message of the weekly Spiegel.
      Therefore, claims about mental development exclusively to the Germans.
      1. Abram
        Abram 3 May 2018 11: 16
        0
        And if Spiegel jumps out the window, are you behind him? winked maybe you don’t need to drag garbage here for those who are near from all over the world to poke around in it? However, this still needs to be seen, perhaps this is the "creative approach" of local translators wink
      2. igorka357
        igorka357 3 May 2018 11: 19
        0
        To his beloved and adored West ... wink
    2. Guru
      Guru 3 May 2018 11: 07
      0
      The brilliance and power of your Intelligence just rolls over. This issue was not invented by the author of the article, but by Spiegel magazine, and here we are discussing this article, rewritten from this publication.
      And further !
      and other people of the same level of mental development
      Explain this expression. Before you appeared on this site there were none. laughing
      1. Abram
        Abram 3 May 2018 11: 20
        0
        And what, is there something in need of explanation? Are some letters or words unfamiliar to you? winked
      2. igorka357
        igorka357 3 May 2018 11: 20
        0
        Yes, the usual three-day troll Oleg, do not pay much attention!
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 May 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Most of the 128 Eurofighter fighters ... fit for military operations
    But the minister-gynecologist in the photo is happy, though it is not clear what. Now it’s clear why Germany did not support the strike on Syria - nothing.
  11. sabakina
    sabakina 3 May 2018 11: 11
    0
    According to sources, only “about ten fighters have positive technical conclusions”, allowing them to take off for operations.
    In addition, the publication points to the lack of missiles for air combat: "now they will be enough only to equip four fighters."
    Recently there was an article on VO about the fact that in the Baltic states 700 aircraft and 1000 tanks were located. I then wrote that Germany itself lacks tanks. Apparently, the Baltic states were brought scrap metal ...
  12. Red webs
    Red webs 3 May 2018 11: 56
    0
    Correctly Hans, sabotage flights along the border with Russia! You know better than others how the war with Russia can end for you!
  13. Turgon
    Turgon 3 May 2018 12: 01
    0
    AND OUR ALL ARE SUITABLE ???????
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 May 2018 12: 07
    0
    The Germans are breaking their planes, so as not to fly to fight with us?)))
    Somehow this problem was discovered strangely.
    Yesterday there wasn’t, but today all the planes do not fly.
    And it’s impossible to come up with a figulin for eliminating leaks.
  15. iouris
    iouris 3 May 2018 12: 39
    0
    How many readers drive a VW that says “To Berlin!”? They, apparently, are not leaking.
  16. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 3 May 2018 13: 29
    0
    Jokes about the minister-gynecologist have already gotten. Well, how much can one explain that in their Federal Republic of Germany the Minister of Defense does not directly command troops. And that most of the ministers in the federal government are pure politicians who are not experts in the industries that oversee their ministries. Today he is engaged in defense, tomorrow social security, the day after tomorrow transport. Etc. I don’t know for sure, but for sure the Minister of Health also has nothing to do with medicine in the initial line of business.
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 3 May 2018 13: 43
      +1
      There is only a fraction of the joke in this joke, the MoE does not directly manage the troops, but allocates the budget, as a result, money instead of combat training goes to fight homophobia in the Bundeswehr, increasing the attractiveness of military service for people with a changed gender, and other, certainly necessary and extremely important things .
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 3 May 2018 16: 37
        0
        Well, what can you do if they really care about a significant part of society?)) But German parties, politicians in the struggle for the electorate and the opinions of various kinds of minorities cannot be neglected.
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 3 May 2018 16: 51
          0
          Do not be surprised at the jokes about the gynecologist-Minister of Defense))) They do not come from the profession, but from the fact that the combat-ready tanks in the Bundeswehr for 2016 will be enough for one and a half tank brigades. This does not affect the idea of ​​the MO administrator.
  17. faiver
    faiver 3 May 2018 13: 40
    0
    Well, they made a laugh-panam here, for a start it would be nice to remember how many combat aircraft we are unable to fly into the sky, how many pilots we lack, what a raid by young pilots, and so on and so on ...
  18. Ardein
    Ardein 3 May 2018 13: 49
    +1
    Quote: sabakina
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "but if I got up for war .. then my mother did not grieve everyone" ////

    It happened ... in different ways. If he got up to war with outdated weapons and tactics, then “Mama Do not Cry” happened to him himself. And if the equipment was in order, the ammunition / shells - plenty, and the exercises did not skimp on firing - then yes. As you said. good

    Is this where we fought with obsolete weapons? Under Peter 1? Suvorov? Nakhimov? Kutuzov? Zhukov? Or do you mean the Battle of Kulikovo?

    In the Crimean War. This is what the first was remembered.
    Yes, and had to flood their ships.
    By the way, the situation with armor-piercing tank shells at the beginning of the Second World War is also recalled.
  19. Topotun
    Topotun 3 May 2018 14: 56
    +1
    Some kind of nonsense, it looks like the German Defense Ministry is determined to cut some more money. I will never believe that the Technical Service of the Ministry of Defense can do nothing to eliminate the defect, provided that it really is). Rather - Give me the money, otherwise it will be bad for us!
  20. NF68
    NF68 3 May 2018 15: 25
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    Recall that in the 2018 year of the German Defense Ministry and the Bundestag deputies have repeatedly expressed concern about the lack of weapons and uniforms in the German army. So, in February, the press leaked details of the report of the defense department, which reported that the military lacked body armor, winter uniforms and tents to participate in NATO missions.


    This was reported several years earlier. But apparently nothing really has changed since then.
  21. PSN10
    PSN10 4 May 2018 05: 11
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    Think for yourself, friends. The best passenger planes in the world are assembled in Hamburg, the best cars and engines for them are assembled in Munich, the best diesel engineering and shipbuilding are not lame in the country ... Uncle Johann or Axel with the key to 16 or 18 will not be found with such potential (German harmful sizes since Daimler) to tighten the tube? Do not tell my slippers.
    1. NF68
      NF68 4 May 2018 16: 17
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      Quote: PSN10
      Think for yourself, friends. The best passenger planes in the world are assembled in Hamburg, the best cars and engines for them are assembled in Munich, the best diesel engineering and shipbuilding are not lame in the country ... Uncle Johann or Axel with the key to 16 or 18 will not be found with such potential (German harmful sizes since Daimler) to tighten the tube? Do not tell my slippers.


      Several years ago, I repeatedly met in the German media references to the numerous shortcomings of the current Bundeswehr. Nothing concrete was said about the reasons for all this. But even if the German media mentioned a very large number of inoperative Bundeswehr equipment, it must be assumed that something is really wrong there.
    2. your1970
      your1970 7 May 2018 09: 10
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      Quote: PSN10
      With such potential, there will be no Uncle Jogan or Axel with a key of 16 or 18 (German harmful sizes since Daimler) to tighten the pipe? Do not make laugh my slippers.

      here is Spiegel(!!) in slippers and laughs .....