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What did the relatives of the victims of the “seaside partisans” say about the new court verdict?

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Today in the Far East there was a final court hearing regarding a gang, which in the media was called “Primorsky Partisans”. We are talking about the grouping, which in 2010, announced a real hunt for law enforcement officers of the Primorsky Territory.


Members of the group, according to the investigation, began with the killing of 4-x residents of the seaside village of Kirov, who were engaged in the protection of hemp fields. Then there were numerous attacks on police / police officers, including the killing of a police officer on duty in the village of Rakitnoye, Dalnerechensky District. The gang members made several car thefts, robberies against local residents, burglaries. After attacks on ordinary law enforcement officers and residents of Primorye, the information plume of "anti-drug and anti-corruption defenders", which began to reach out for these people, dissipated.

28 April 2014, the members of the group were sentenced on the basis of a jury decision. Alexander Kovtun, Vladimir Ilyutikov and Alexey Nikitin were sentenced to life imprisonment in a special regime colony, Roman Savchenko - to 25 years of imprisonment, Maxim Kirillov - to 23 years, Vadim Kovtun - to 8 years of 2 months of imprisonment.

However, in 2015, after the appeal was reviewed by the Supreme Court, the sentences were reduced. Alexander Kovtun and Vladimir Ilyutikov were given life sentences of 25 and 24 years in prison. Roman Savchenko's term was reduced to 24 years, Maxim Kirillov - to 19 years. The sentence against Alexey Nikitin and Vadim Kovtun was completely canceled, the episode with the murder of four people was subject to repeated consideration by the Primorsky regional court.

The next trial resulted in the court finding the unproved guilt of killing the hemp field guards, as a result of which A.Nikitin and V.Kovtun were released in the courtroom after the decision of the jury. The prosecutor's office appealed the verdict.

New hearing led to a verdict: the judge appointed Alexander Kovtun 25 years imprisonment in a penal colony, Alexei Nikitin - 23,5 years in prison, Maxim Kirillov - 21,5 years colony, Vladimir Ilyutikovu - 25 years, Vadim Kovtun - 8 years in prison freedom in the colony of strict regime.



RIA News gives the answer of the mother of one of the victims to the question of whether the verdict of the Primorsky Territory suits her:
Yes - happy. As a mother, I would shoot them myself. I thought they would come out, and that they were stashed away is good. They are guilty! I know them, I lived with them in the same house.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 06: 42
    +16
    They are guilty! I know them, I lived with them in the same house.
    But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently. All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 3 May 2018 06: 47
      +17
      Ingvar 72 (Igor) Today, 06: 42
      They are guilty! I know them, I lived with them in the same house.
      But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently. All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.

      And how many are many, or who exactly? I would not be so categorical for the "many" residents of Primorye. And accordingly, I have completely different data regarding gangsters ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 06: 51
        +12
        Quote: aszzz888
        And accordingly, I have completely different data regarding gangsters ...

        Share.
        P.S. The first victims were hemp farm watchmen. wink
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 3 May 2018 06: 58
          +16
          Ingvar 72 (Igor) Today, 06: 51 ... P.S. The first victims were hemp watchman farms. wink

          .... yes even poppy-opium fields !!!! for this there are government agencies endowed with power and having the legal RIGHT to engage in the suppression of drug trafficking .... and the Lynch court in Russia, does not have the RIGHT to be ...
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 07: 05
            +22
            Quote: aszzz888
            for this there are government agencies endowed with power and having the legal RIGHT to engage in the suppression of drug trafficking.

            laughing They made fun! good Do you know how FSKN themselves call the cops? Goskomdur! All drug sales points are supervised by FSKN employees.
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 3 May 2018 07: 13
              +13
              Ingvar 72 (Igor) Today, 07: 05laughing They made fun! good Do you know how FSKN themselves call the cops? Goskomdur! All drug sales points are supervised by FSKN employees.

              There is absolutely no desire to make laugh, not that profession with me. And all these yard sayings at the 13-14 level of summer undergrowths are not impressive. hi
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 3 May 2018 07: 41
                +16
                Quote: aszzz888
                Ingvar 72 (Igor) Today, 07: 05laughing They made fun! good Do you know how FSKN themselves call the cops? Goskomdur! All drug sales points are supervised by FSKN employees.

                There is absolutely no desire to make laugh, not that profession with me. And all these yard sayings at the 13-14 level of summer undergrowths are not impressive. hi


                What? MIA officers completely stopped taking bribes and protecting crime? Am I right now on planet Earth in the Russian Federation?
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 03
                  0
                  Quote: sergo1914
                  What? MIA officers completely stopped taking bribes and protecting crime? Am I right now on planet Earth in the Russian Federation?

                  But tell me, is this an occasion to arbitrarily judge and kill them? What will we come to then? All talk about the "rule of law", but all these "seaside partisans" will not lead to the purification of society - just one criminality will be replaced by another.
                  1. Egg
                    Egg 3 May 2018 17: 36
                    +2
                    They don’t kill people for bribes and protection, they kill them when the "law enforcers", who are soooooo impunity, start lawlessness.
                    Like cleaning a hollow with a mop handle, as it was not so long ago in Tatarstan, and then they organize mutual responsibility, to hell who you get by law
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 38
                      0
                      And what lawlessness did the law enforcement officers specifically killed by this criminal group create?
                      1. Egg
                        Egg 4 May 2018 07: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Albert1988
                        And what lawlessness did the law enforcement officers specifically killed by this criminal group create?

                        And you google and find if interested, I did not hire you as a search engine.
            2. PalBor
              PalBor 3 May 2018 09: 37
              +6
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: aszzz888
              for this there are government agencies endowed with power and having the legal RIGHT to engage in the suppression of drug trafficking.

              laughing They made fun! good Do you know how FSKN themselves call the cops? Goskomdur! All drug sales points are supervised by FSKN employees.

              Not supervised, FSKN already two or three years as it does not exist.
              In any case, the killer, like the thief, must be in prison. You cannot hide robbery and enjoyment of power over the lives of other people with “good intentions”.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 14: 23
                +1
                Quote: PalBor
                Not supervised, FSKN already two or three years as it does not exist.

                Supervised - the service has changed its name and submission. The rest is the same.
            3. IAmSelf
              IAmSelf 3 May 2018 12: 48
              +1
              You have been a bit delayed in the past. FSKN has long been rested ...
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 3 May 2018 12: 27
            +3
            Quote: aszzz888
            Lynch court in Russia, has no RIGHT to be

            Does corruption in Russia have the right to exist? The California Gold Rush story shows that Lynch’s trial appeared where corrupt authorities were either inactive or assisted by criminals — and most typically, thanks to Lynch’s courts, crime declined sharply.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 00
              +1
              Quote: Weyland
              The California Gold Rush story shows that Lynch’s trial appeared where corrupt authorities were either inactive or assisted by criminals — and most typically, thanks to Lynch’s courts, crime declined sharply.

              Only now, the “Lynch courts” were mostly ruled by some bandits over others - the “wild west” is called that from that. that there wasn’t, there simply weren’t clean and law-abiding citizens - there were bandits with bagpipes, one by one, here are some bandits who lived “by definitions” and shot “chaos” who lost their shores ...

              What is happening in our Far East, of course, requires very serious measures, but this is not a reason to turn the region into a bloody slaughter similar to the dawn of the United States ...
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 3 May 2018 17: 11
                0
                Quote: Albert1988
                only the “Lynch courts” were mostly ruled by some bandits over others

                Well, well ... Bret Garth read it! They didn’t take anyone into the “regulators” - another thing is that the authorities considered them as bandits.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 41
                  0
                  They considered it right - because they were bandits, and they could live not according to the laws, but as we say, “according to concepts” and to drive them into the framework of legality could only be driven into the grave.
                  Understand the simple truth - the “wild west” is a kingdom of lawlessness, where people survived in packs and the right of the strong acted, do you want to build this in Russia? That is, to roll us back even harder?
                  1. Weyland
                    Weyland 3 May 2018 22: 27
                    +1
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    the "wild west" is the kingdom of lawlessness, where people survived in packs and the right of the strong acted, do you want to build this in Russia?

                    Our "dashing 90s" were 100 times worse - if only because everyone had a trunk in the Wild West, "Colonel Colt called the odds!"
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 4 May 2018 18: 04
                      0
                      Quote: Weyland
                      Our "dashing 90s" were 100 times worse - if only because everyone had a trunk in the Wild West, "Colonel Colt called the odds!"

                      Well, he equalized quite conditionally - for owning a barrel and being able to use it and being ready to use it are very different things.
                      And about the 90s - you seriously think that we need to go back there. when a couple of days did not pass so that someone would not be shot / stabbed / blown up?
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 3 May 2018 06: 58
        +12
        You won’t achieve justice in the blood of people ... and the ending of the coastal partisans is logical ... prison.
        1. Sergey Medvedev
          Sergey Medvedev 3 May 2018 10: 43
          +7
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          You won’t achieve justice in the blood of people ... and the ending of the coastal partisans is logical ... prison.

          The hemp field guard, like other participants in drug trafficking, is not people, but NOT PEOPLE. Their shelters from the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not people, but TRADERS.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 3 May 2018 16: 57
            0
            Quote: Sergei Medvedev
            The hemp field guard, like other participants in drug trafficking, is not people, but NOT PEOPLE. Their shelters from the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not people, but TRADERS.

            And this should be decided by the court, and not a bunch of people do not understand ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 18: 21
              +2
              Quote: Albert1988
              And this should be decided by the court, and not a bunch of people do not understand ...

              Have you ever tried to prove your case in court? And when the defendant is the Interior Ministry?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 18: 23
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: Albert1988
                And this should be decided by the court, and not a bunch of people do not understand ...

                Have you ever tried to prove your case in court? And when the defendant is the Interior Ministry?

                Judging by the heat - you still tried. Happened? wink
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 19: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Judging by the heat - you still tried. Happened?

                  Do you pin up, or are you seriously interested? wink
                  It didn’t work out - the system itself won’t .... will not fall in love.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 20: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Did not work out

                    That is, do you use rumors?
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    the system itself is not

                    It's "for the poor" ... common words, you know request
                    So there is experience, or just ... by the way had? wink
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 4 May 2018 05: 51
                      +1
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      So there is experience, or just ... by the way had?

                      Pussycat, you think hard - that was the answer to your question
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Got it?
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      It didn’t work out - the system itself won’t .... will not fall in love.
              2. Albert1988
                Albert1988 3 May 2018 18: 39
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Have you ever tried to prove your case in court? And when the defendant is the Interior Ministry?

                Well, everyone knows that our courts are corrupt, and some categories of the population are openly barricading, only if you walk along the proposed path, any person who is quite frostbitten will be able to shoot / cut / beat half to death on the street, and for that it’s he’ll come up with it - after all, from the point of view of a frostbite, it will be a “fair punishment”
          2. vovanpain
            vovanpain 4 May 2018 20: 31
            +2
            Quote: Sergei Medvedev
            The hemp field guard, like other participants in drug trafficking, is not people, but NOT PEOPLE. Their shelters from the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not people, but TRADERS.

            And let's blame everyone for it, and then those guerrillas who would blame without trial, Robin Hoods probably robbed the rich and gave them to the poor, well, well, the cat got milk choked with laughter. laughing
      3. vic02
        vic02 3 May 2018 07: 32
        +13
        "And how many are many, or who exactly?" Did you understand what you asked? The stupidity of the question rolls over. Nevertheless, regarding “who exactly” I can answer: “for example, I”. I personally witnessed the catch of these people on the roads around Vladivostok with the inspection of all cars and buses. In conditions when our state. the authorities will openly participate in a dirty criminal business, I think the appearance of such groups is completely justified.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 3 May 2018 07: 45
          +9
          vic02 (Victor) Today, 07: 32 ... I can answer: "for example - I am."

          Don’t pull on the hero of our time ... because I repeat: all these yard graters at the 13-14 level of summer undergrowths are not impressive and do not convince, because indiscriminate ranting is never a fact, never hi
          1. vic02
            vic02 3 May 2018 08: 56
            +10
            I don’t care who I think I’m “pulling or not pulling”, but judging by your questions, indiscriminate ranting is your thing.
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      5. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 3 May 2018 08: 42
        +11
        No matter what the sacrifices are, I don’t know either good or bad about them .... But there is no doubt that the convicts are true bandits .... because. they acted with gangster methods and with gangster cruelty. It is unfair to believe that they were “driven by a sense of trampled social justice.” ... no ..... they were guided by “ordinary” ..... gangster thoughts: who is “thirsty for profit” ( as journalists like to say ...); who liked to kill, to be cruel .... It’s not a trail of ordinary bandits (with some “peculiar douche”) to create “robin hoots” or new-found “prisoners of conscience” ....
        1. Egg
          Egg 3 May 2018 10: 29
          +5
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          No matter what the sacrifices are, I don’t know either good or bad about them .... But there is no doubt that the convicts are true bandits .... because. they acted with gangster methods and with gangster cruelty. It is unfair to believe that they were “driven by a sense of trampled social justice.” ... no ..... they were guided by “ordinary” ..... gangster thoughts: who is “thirsty for profit” ( as journalists like to say ...); who liked to kill, to be cruel .... It’s not a trail of ordinary bandits (with some “peculiar douche”) to create “robin hoots” or new-found “prisoners of conscience” ....

          With such thoughts and worldview, how then to perceive the partisan movement in the Second World War?
          There, after all, they also fought against invaders with illegal actions :)
          Unfortunately, in our time, attempts to achieve justice by legal means are impossible or at least can last for a lifetime, very few can do it.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 3 May 2018 11: 06
            +6
            Quote: Telur
            With such thoughts and worldview, how then to perceive the partisan movement in the Second World War?
            There, after all, they also fought against invaders with illegal actions :)

            Are you serious ?? belay Well, and comparisons! request Where does this "shit" come from in your head? fool Is the partisan movement in V.O.V. on the Soviet territory temporarily occupied by the enemy against the fascist invaders illegal? belay These are the speeches of Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels! Why they (!) Said it, understandably! But what happened to you ??
            1. Egg
              Egg 3 May 2018 11: 22
              +3
              From the point of view of the Nazis, this was illegal.
              And punished accordingly.
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 3 May 2018 11: 50
                +5
                Quote: Telur
                From the point of view of the Nazis, this was illegal.

                Oh-ho-ho ... You just have a "gift" to combine incompatible! Judging by your answer, you obviously have not “delved into” the meaning of my previous comment, and therefore your answer is out of place. Well, well .... and it happens ...
                1. Egg
                  Egg 3 May 2018 17: 33
                  +1
                  it is not me and my worldview that is being discussed here, but the actions of the authorities and the right of the people to fight with law enforcement authorities
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 3 May 2018 19: 46
                    +3
                    Quote: Telur
                    and the actions of the authorities and the right of the people to fight

                    And that the Germans were government representatives in the USSR?
          2. Monarchist
            Monarchist 3 May 2018 14: 50
            +2
            Telur, but it does not seem to you that comparing partisans fighting with occupants and ordinary criminals is at least not correct. If you combine them by name then it's stupid. Kirkorov calls himself the king of pop, but this does not give reason to consider him equal to kings
            1. Egg
              Egg 4 May 2018 07: 46
              0
              Monarchist
              Well, if you didn’t like the example of the partisans, take another one from our history: the Pugachev uprising.
              there are no invaders and "right / wrong" authorities and partisans, but the reasons for armed resistance are similar
              Will fit?
          3. Albert1988
            Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 07
            +2
            Quote: Telur
            With such thoughts and worldview, how then to perceive the partisan movement in the Second World War?
            There, after all, they also fought with invaders by illegal actions:

            You didn’t mix anything up? When was our Primorye occupied? Maybe it's the Americans? Or did the Japanese climb again?
            Because personally, all these "partisans" in autumn remind me very much of the guys of the "glorious" Mishka Yaponchik and others like him, who, too, like the noble thieves ala Robin Hood, were writhing themselves ... Only now they have something in common with our glorious partisans of the Great Patriotic War less than nothing ...
        2. Weyland
          Weyland 3 May 2018 12: 31
          +3
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          .Not a trace of the usual bandits (with some "peculiar darling") to create "robin hoots" or the new "prisoners of conscience" ....

          But in history, this has always been the case! Do you think the same Robin Hood, as well as Masheka, Yurai Yanoshik, Punta Brave, Oleksa Dovbush and especially Ustim Karmalyuk really robbed only the rich and most importantly, they distributed all the loot to the poor? laughing
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 3 May 2018 13: 24
            +3
            Quote: Weyland
            Do you think the same Robin Hood, as well as Masheka, Yurai Yanoshik, Punta Brave, Oleksa Dovbush and especially Ustim Karmalyuk really robbed only the rich and most importantly, they distributed ALL the loot to the poor?

            No, I don’t think .... and for a long time already ... when I realized that "historical characters" are: a) real, b) literary or by people heroized (idealized); c) template .. (in the "practical" mention ...) I used the "template" ...
          2. Monarchist
            Monarchist 3 May 2018 14: 39
            +1
            The instructions and the case that Robin Hood, or what his name really was, and Dovbush and Karmashki, ALL of them arbitrarily "took up Kisten * and, somewhere they entered the invisible line of personal revenge, the same Robin Hood, to revenge for the "orphans and wretched", and then some slipped into direct criminality: Kartush, Ravashol and others
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 3 May 2018 16: 19
              +1
              Quote: Monarchist
              they ALL because of arbitrariness "took up the Kisten *

              So that’s what we are talking about - the majority of those who took up their hands because of the arbitrariness of the authorities remained in their memory “freedom fighters”, despite all their bloody deeds! And even if the national factor is added, as in most of the above, then the guarantee of posthumous glory is almost 100%! I won’t be surprised if about the "seaside partisans" in a year or so ... hundreds of bylins will be composed! By the way, Yurai Yanoshik generally became a gangster without any negative role of the authorities - he simply shared the loot from the local population out of worldly wisdom (and just like all the highlanders, fairly prone to robbery) - and did a good job of promoting!
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 09
                0
                Quote: Weyland
                I won’t be surprised if about the "seaside partisans" in a year or so ... hundreds of bylins will be composed!

                Yes, after 10 years no one will remember them ...
      6. Oden280
        Oden280 3 May 2018 09: 14
        +2
        It’s bad that they took me alive during the detention. It was necessary to bring down tightly. And so now every bad smelling substance will chew and smear.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 3 May 2018 06: 49
      +10
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently.

      but mothers probably know better
      All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.

      the conversation is not about the dead, about whether they are to blame or not.
      and killing is killing. nobody has given anyone the right to lynch
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 06: 56
        +15
        Quote: LSA57
        but mothers probably know better

        A mother is always a mother, and she will justify her son, no matter how scumbag he is, and will blame people who have saved the world from evil.
        Quote: LSA57
        and killing is killing. nobody has given anyone the right to lynch

        Revise the “Voroshilov shooter” - truths cannot always be achieved through the law. hi
        1. just exp
          just exp 3 May 2018 07: 00
          +13
          you will not prompt and "Voroshilovsky shooter" in what city in reality shot mrazota?
          otherwise I have suspicions that it was fiction. Well, as if in the description of the film it was not said that it was documentary.
          and if you bring fiction as an argument, then I remembered something about the "star wars", by the way, didn’t a plumber ever come to your house? and then I remembered something else and the German "cinema".
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 07: 10
            +9
            Quote: just explo
            you will not prompt and "Voroshilovsky shooter" in what city in reality shot mrazota?

            The film shows a situation brought to the point of absurdity. But there are a lot of applicants for mob justice in every city. A friend of the cop said that in the 80s the father of the raped girl cut the eggs to the rapist. True, he sat down later. request
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            2. Albert1988
              Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 19
              0
              Well, I cut off the testicles to the rapist-g.du. — well done, and then they hound a dog from someone — he would catch the poison — he would feed him rat poison, at the third he would scratch the boys with glass with a glass — he would pick them up and scratch their faces with a rose from the bottle - like situations? But justifying lynching, in fact, you are urging people to do the above, because who will determine the boundaries of guilt for a particular misconduct / crime and the measure of punishment?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 18: 23
                0
                Quote: Albert1988
                you actually encourage people to create

                Ideally, power itself is to blame, because it should solve these problems, not desperate people. This is what I am calling for. hi
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 3 May 2018 18: 44
                  0
                  Well, it’s necessary to call on the authorities themselves to rectify the situation, and to do this en masse - even our authorities can do little against mass protests, but there’s a problem - everyone is comfortable sitting on the sofas, I tried to agitate a couple of months ago to reside in our house an application from the relevant authorities stating that we didn’t have any meeting of residents and voting to change the service company, and all this was faked by one unscrupulous office - no. what do you! Everyone is eager to sit on a couch, than to do vital business, as a result, we were saved only by the fact that this company turned a couple more of these scams and the tenants were more conscious in some of the many houses, and then everything went along the chain.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 19: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    against mass protests, even our government can do little

                    Maidan? belay We know how mass performances end. No.
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 3 May 2018 20: 04
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Maidan? We know how mass performances end.

                      What a maidan! And is he here at all? Mass protest does NOT mean Maidan. because Maidan-this is NOT a protest of the people-this is an action of the oligarchy ...
                2. Egg
                  Egg 4 May 2018 08: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Ideally, power itself is to blame, because it should solve these problems, not desperate people. This is what I urge

                  Unfortunately, it’s just the children and the closest relatives of people from the government who are such scumbags that the law is not written for, apparently parents have no time to educate their children, they are engaged in the conquest of power.
                  And then in every possible way they try to cover up their deeds.
                  And almost every day we see on TV all kinds of “Baghdasaryans and Co.” and our children see it.
                  Then you go outside and see whose relatives and children own local hot spots, which cars are parked at the local administration, the traffic police and the police (though the cars and the traffic police have become more modest recently) bought for such a budgetary salary.
                  The people see and notice everything, in contrast to the prosecutor’s office, which is called to monitor violations of the law.
                  For example, in our small town, even a separate microdistrict is built up with elite cottages with an area of ​​250 m2 in which the mayor and his deputies and the prosecutor and the gene live in the neighborhood. director of housing and communal services and representatives of a prosperous business, everyone lives in harmony and friendship, and the people gave him the name: "Pig Farm"
                  Who will solve these problems? these or what?
                  everything is smooth with them.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 3 May 2018 07: 08
          +6
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Mother is always mother, and she will justify her son, no matter how scumbag he is,

          these keywords
          I know them, I lived with them in the same house.

          “Voroshilovsky shooter” review - the truth can not always be achieved through the law

          Well then, do you need the mother we are talking about should you give a carbine? I repeat again lynching is prohibited by law
          and the one who does this, by law, is no better than the one against whom the lynching was applied.
          Well, x / f is x \ f. if they act as shown in the films, here we have a solid "team" will begin
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 3 May 2018 07: 19
            +15
            Quote: LSA57
            lynching is prohibited by law

            If God forbid your relatives or relatives will suffer, and the police will cover the criminals, and then they will take you into circulation so that they don’t complain, then you will certainly go to the monastery and pray for the enemies "because they don’t know what they are doing."
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 3 May 2018 07: 50
              +4
              Quote: Vita VKO
              Quote: LSA57
              lynching is prohibited by law

              If God forbid your relatives or relatives will suffer, and the police will cover the criminals, and then they will take you into circulation so that they don’t complain, then you will certainly go to the monastery and pray for the enemies "because they don’t know what they are doing."

              do not distort. it is a violation of the law. about the crime.
              but what I’ll do is my personal affair and I’m not going to share it with anyone
            2. Albert1988
              Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 21
              0
              Quote: Vita VKO
              If God forbid your relatives or relatives will suffer, and the police will cover the criminals, and then they will take you into circulation so that they don’t complain, then you will certainly go to the monastery and pray for the enemies "because they don’t know what they are doing."

              And if, God forbid, your near and dear ones suffer from the fact that some kind of shit ... a scumbag will decide that these same your near and dear ones are to blame for something out of his personal understanding, and the “population” will be justify one vote of this scumbag, because he type mows under a noble bandit?
        3. 210ox
          210ox 3 May 2018 07: 32
          +5
          Igor, do not smack nonsense .. The film is fiction, and these killers are real. So they do not seek justice.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: LSA57
          but mothers probably know better

          A mother is always a mother, and she will justify her son, no matter how scumbag he is, and will blame people who have saved the world from evil.
          Quote: LSA57
          and killing is killing. nobody has given anyone the right to lynch

          Revise the “Voroshilov shooter” - truths cannot always be achieved through the law. hi
    3. Senior manager
      Senior manager 3 May 2018 06: 51
      +7
      Killing is considered a good deed only in war, and then - the enemy.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 06: 58
        +2
        Quote: St. Propulsion
        Killing is considered a good deed only in war,

        And the execution of the killer of children?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 3 May 2018 07: 04
          +5
          And the execution of the killer of children?

          Hard labor for such a contingent is the best punishment.
          You need to understand that death eliminates the suffering of man ...
          but the essence of the punishment is to force the offender to go through all the circles of ADA ... without the right to die ... and then a person’s worldview is broken ... sometimes with a plus, sometimes with a minus ... and this is true ...
          to each his own.
          1. Ace Tambourine
            Ace Tambourine 3 May 2018 07: 22
            +4
            Good you ...
            To him, the killer, in the next world and so endless yytsyh with nails, and here you want to come off ... smile
            In general, for distribution and other actions with drugs, one should be given a life sentence without the right to review am , you look there will be less partisans.
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 3 May 2018 07: 29
              +2
              Good you ...

              smile Well, you ... my hands often itch at the sight of injustice ... but you have to restrain yourself.
              Who is really so good is the Swedes who identified their Breivik personally killing 77 people in a cell with all the amenities ... here's a damn thing ... why not sit for free.

              After the verdict was announced - 21 years in prison - Breivik was placed in solitary confinement, the area of ​​which is 24 square meters. meter. It consists of a bedroom, a gym and an office. He is not forbidden to correspond, he can walk in the courtyard under the supervision of a guard, go in for sports and even receive distance education
              .
          2. Egg
            Egg 3 May 2018 10: 42
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            but the essence of the punishment is to make the offender go through all the circles of HELL ... without the right to die ..

            Yeah, pay attention to Western European prisons, what kind of "circles of hell" are there to all circles :)
            For some reason, it is believed that the life of the ZK in inhuman conditions helps re-education ... personally, I believe that serving a sentence in such conditions only helps to finally become brutal.
            And this is in our country where the proverb "from prison and from the bag ..." is relevant like nowhere.
            Quote: The same Lech
            to each his own.

            somewhere I already saw such a slogan ... well, or very similar. Do not remember which gate?
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 23
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And the execution of the killer of children?

          And the court sentenced to execution? Or a bunch of gopniks from the gateway?
      2. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc 3 May 2018 14: 17
        +1
        There is such a profession - the executioner. And his work is appropriate - the execution of death sentences. Nothing personal.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 29
          0
          Only now you forgot that the executioner is under the law, and the executioner acts strictly within the framework of this law, and if the executioner acts differently, then this is just a killer ...
    4. 210ox
      210ox 3 May 2018 07: 29
      +7
      So what? Kiss these "Robin Hoods!"? These are killers, not avengers ...
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      They are guilty! I know them, I lived with them in the same house.
      But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently. All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 3 May 2018 11: 23
      0
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      They are guilty! I know them, I lived with them in the same house.
      But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently. All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.


      Well, they are such scum who "lives with them in the same house", they usually know everything best of all.
    6. Cro-Magnon
      Cro-Magnon 3 May 2018 13: 48
      +1
      Do not speak for all Primorye. To me, a Primorye, it’s deeply violet against these wrestlers, like violet and to all my friends in Primorye. Committed a crime - answer according to the law.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 May 2018 06: 58
    +7
    The decision is made, the topic is closed. Got what they deserve.
    Ingvar 72
    But many of the inhabitants of Primorye think differently.
    But to sympathize with them or deep down is considered "avengers" is not worth it.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 3 May 2018 06: 59
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But they should not sympathize.

      And then Kvachkov’s fate is guaranteed. yes
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 3 May 2018 07: 02
        +7
        Completely incorrect comparison. Combat officer pleasing for the country and a gang of killers.
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 3 May 2018 07: 14
        +3
        And then Kvachkov’s fate is guaranteed.


        Kvachkov was convicted on the basis of wiretapping for the intentions that he allegedly planned.
        They imposed a military officer on FSB agents and he talked too much for the court.
        It's stupid to substitute.
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 3 May 2018 07: 25
          +5
          And at us in VO some dream that the Guarantor's Seagull summoned ...
          Here you have the intentions ... atu them ..
  3. solovald
    solovald 3 May 2018 07: 23
    +7
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    All the same, the bulk of the dead were smeared in dark affairs, including the Interior Ministry.

    This is not a reason to do lynching. They are not partisans, but gopnik-radishes.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 3 May 2018 07: 41
      +5
      It’s not a matter of lynching - this is the tip of that iceberg in justice and the system ...
      They create lynching there. Where for some the law is the norm. But for others it is not written.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 31
        0
        Quote: To be or not to be
        They create lynching there. Where for some the law is the norm. But for others it is not written.

        The only problem is that for those who create lynching, the law is also not written exactly ...
  4. Vard
    Vard 3 May 2018 07: 55
    +8
    The condemnation of the partisans is a landmark thing ... Serfs have no right to self-defense ... and at first they were less charged ... the usual practice of writing off hanging ...
  5. bald
    bald 3 May 2018 08: 52
    +1
    And what is there to argue - the content of the appeal is not indicated. Passions calmed down, so they threw off a little.
  6. Wei
    Wei 3 May 2018 09: 05
    +3
    This is not human ... And they can’t live normally! It would be better to be shot immediately.
  7. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 3 May 2018 09: 26
    +1
    I read the article ... I read the comments ... It's sad ... In general, the existence of the article itself can also be somehow justified ... Well, at least by the fact that the people were informed that justice had happened ... But here's a complete trash in the comments ... Especially burn comments in which the actions of criminals are justified by some unlawful behavior of the victims and rottenness of law enforcement agencies. It seems to me that all this became possible thanks to the wrong policy of our state when it suddenly announced in connection with a change in the general policy that many previously convicted were convicted innocently for political reasons, etc. it was not said that there was a change in legislation; those who pronounced sentences on innocents were not convicted; on the whole, the points were not set. And this gave rise to an interesting moment in society ... Now the convicted person in society is associated not with the person who has been punished for his actions, but as a person who has suffered from an evil state and this is already a disaster, and the current state policy further exacerbates this problem by sweeping declaring all law enforcement officials bribery and living solely through abuse of power. The problem is also exacerbated by the imperfection of our criminal law in which it’s not that there are loopholes ... Damn ... Yes, there are just criminal highways. And to change the situation, we need directed state policy, this is propaganda and direct prohibitions on part of the media content, but the most important thing is to deprive the court of lawmaking in the form of their plenums, make amendments to the criminal law and not to the criminal code, but to the criminal procedure code, and change it must be made based not only on how we would like, but also on the realities of the material base available to us.
  8. Bronevick
    Bronevick 3 May 2018 11: 21
    +5
    The result of the appearance of these partisans of lawlessness atrocities. Many policemen are criminals who enjoy state "immunity." Any police officer can put ordinary criminals, but not everyone dares to put a police criminal, people are desperate for impunity and commit such acts.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 May 2018 17: 35
      0
      Quote: Bronevick
      here people are in despair of impunity and commit such acts.

      And from this despair, they then roll along the criminal path farther and farther, and the “werewolves in uniform” no longer have anything to do with it ...
  9. Egg
    Egg 3 May 2018 11: 36
    +3
    Quote: Bronevick
    The result of the appearance of these partisans of lawlessness atrocities.

    Exactly!
  10. Monarchist
    Monarchist 3 May 2018 13: 39
    +1
    “seaside” partisans or “usons” are all burps of “dashing nineties.” And “dashing” 90s from “Belovezhskaya gatherings.”
  11. Monarchist
    Monarchist 3 May 2018 14: 04
    +2
    [quote = Bronevick] The result of the appearance of these partisans of lawlessness atrocities. Many policemen are criminals who enjoy state "immunity." Any police officer can put ordinary criminals, but not everyone dares to put a police criminal, people are desperate for impunity and commit such acts. [/ Quote
    Selling cops - got out of the sales cops, and these, in turn, are a consequence of the degradation of the party’s top. At first I wanted to say that the degradation of the party top: Gorbachev, Burbuli, Voronenkov, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Pan Pedro and all in alphabetical order were all in the CPSU and Komsomol, they left the 20th Congress of the CPSU, but I remembered that the degradation started back in the 30s years. I recommend everyone to read: Mukhin "Another Stalin", the Kremlin: "Beria is the best manager of the 20th century" - reputable authors show that degradation began even then. It just started in the back and in a quiet, and then like a snowball
  12. akromaserp
    akromaserp 6 May 2018 10: 40
    0
    Muddy bodyaga, in the spirit of our time. bully